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"Nomen Nescio" |
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31 Oct 2005 11:20:04 PM |
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Thanks again for Howard Dean, Democrats |
http://media.nationalreview.com/
Chris Matthews had Howard Dean on "Hardball" tonight, and the
DNC chairman could not bring himself to say that the Democrats
are the pro-choice party. But Matthews would not give up, and
what followed was like some kind of weird improv game from the
Drew Carey show. Matthews' goal was to get Dean to say "pro-
choice." Dean's goal was to defend the pro-choice position
without actually saying the words, "pro-choice":
MATTHEWS: So the Democrats are the pro-choice party, period?
DEAN: The government…
MATTHEWS: The Democrats, your party, is the pro-choice party.
DEAN: No, my party respects everybody’s views, but my party
firmly believes that the government should stay out of people’s
personal lives.
MATTHEWS: But you’re a pro-choice party, are you not? You sound
like you’re against them for being pro-life. Are you pro-choice?
DEAN: I’m not against people for being pro-life. I actually was
the first chairman who met for a long, for a long time, who met
with the pro-life Democrats…
MATTHEWS: This is a complicated thing for people. The people
believe the Republican party because of its record supports the
pro-life position. Does your party support the pro-choice
position?
DEAN: The position we support is, a woman has a right to make,
and a family has a right to make up their own mind about their
health care without government interference.
MATTHEWS: That’s pro-choice.
DEAN: A woman and a family have a right to make up their own
minds about their health care without government interference.
That’s our position.
MATTHEWS: Why do you hesitate to use the phrase “pro-choice”?
DEAN: Because I think it’s often misused. If you’re pro-choice
it implies you’re not pro-life — that’s not true. There are a
lot of pro-life Democrats. We respect them, but we believe the
government should…
MATTHEWS: Do you believe in abortion rights?
DEAN: I believe the government should stay out of personal, of
the personal lives of families and women. They should stay out
of our lives. That’s what I believe.
MATTHEWS: I find it interesting that you have hesitated to say
what the party has always stood for, which is the pro-choice
position…
DEAN: The party believes the government does not belong in
making personal decisions.
MATTHEWS: Okay, I’m learning things here about a hesitancy I
didn’t know about before.
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HA! HA! HA! HA! The "brilliant" Dr Dean embarrasses his party
again!
Video here: http://snipurl.com/dummy_dean (Windows Media)
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01 Nov 2005 12:15:19 AM |
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"Nomen Nescio" <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote in message
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http://media.nationalreview.com/
Howard Dean did not allow Matthews the closet dwelling bush asskisser to
paint him into a corner. He's light years ahead of you, mathews. Kay B
Hutchinson, Graham, libby, rove delay, frist, cheney bush or anyone you can
put up againt him. Compare him with how Kay Hutchinson stuck her big foot
in her big stupid mouth last sunday doofus.
You're so used to seeing your parties leaders get led around by nose rings
you don't know it when Mr Dean skillfully avoids a sophmoric Matthews trap.
To bad Irvin Lewis Scooter Libby was not that shrewd with te FBI and the
grand jury, he would not have had to resign in humilitaion and would not
have to be arraigned in a federal court of law Thursady morning. Try again
moron. You idiots are making the democrats the party of moderation and
common sense while you play frisbee with each other on the outer fringe of
political insaniity. Call Ann Coulter and have her make some more wild and
crazy statement to the american public, that horseface ***** creates new
democrats everytime she opens her manly jaws.
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| User: "E.E.Bud Keith" |
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| Title: Re: Thanks again for Howard Dean, Democrats |
01 Nov 2005 01:00:39 AM |
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"XTS" <xts@Xwoh.rr.com> wrote in message
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"Nomen Nescio" <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote in
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http://media.nationalreview.com/
Howard Dean did not allow Matthews the closet dwelling bush asskisser to
paint him into a corner. He's light years ahead of you, mathews. Kay B
Hutchinson, Graham, libby, rove delay, frist, cheney bush or anyone you
can
put up againt him. Compare him with how Kay Hutchinson stuck her big foot
in her big stupid mouth last sunday doofus.
You're so used to seeing your parties leaders get led around by nose rings
you don't know it when Mr Dean skillfully avoids a sophmoric Matthews
trap.
To bad Irvin Lewis Scooter Libby was not that shrewd with te FBI and the
grand jury, he would not have had to resign in humilitaion and would not
have to be arraigned in a federal court of law Thursady morning. Try again
moron. You idiots are making the democrats the party of moderation and
common sense while you play frisbee with each other on the outer fringe
of
political insaniity. Call Ann Coulter and have her make some more wild
and
crazy statement to the american public, that horseface ***** creates new
democrats everytime she opens her manly jaws.
Speaking of morons, you meet the definition of that word,no doubt about
that.
I would not shout to loud about Libby when it was your party who spawned
that sex maniac BJ Clinton who should be in jail for perjury and obstruction
of justice the same thing libby is accused of.
And speaking of being lead around b y a ring in their nose,its democrats who
march around in lockstep the very same as they did with old BJ, it did not
matter what he did you democrats defended it in unison.
..At least we repunlicans can argue among ourselfs about various positions,
somthing you never see democrats do.
If you listen to Chucky Shummer, Ted Kennedy or the imperial wizard from
WVirginia you will hear it from every democrat ver batim and in lock step.
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01 Nov 2005 01:31:42 AM |
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"E.E.Bud Keith" <budk101@comcast.net> wrote in message
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"Nomen Nescio" <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote in
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http://media.nationalreview.com/
Howard Dean did not allow Matthews the closet dwelling bush asskisser to
paint him into a corner. He's light years ahead of you, mathews. Kay B
Hutchinson, Graham, libby, rove delay, frist, cheney bush or anyone you
can
put up againt him. Compare him with how Kay Hutchinson stuck her big
foot
in her big stupid mouth last sunday doofus.
You're so used to seeing your parties leaders get led around by nose
rings
you don't know it when Mr Dean skillfully avoids a sophmoric Matthews
trap.
To bad Irvin Lewis Scooter Libby was not that shrewd with te FBI and the
grand jury, he would not have had to resign in humilitaion and would not
have to be arraigned in a federal court of law Thursady morning. Try
again
moron. You idiots are making the democrats the party of moderation and
common sense while you play frisbee with each other on the outer fringe
of
political insaniity. Call Ann Coulter and have her make some more wild
and
crazy statement to the american public, that horseface ***** creates new
democrats everytime she opens her manly jaws.
Speaking of morons, you meet the definition of that word,no doubt about
that.
I would not shout to loud about Libby when it was your party who spawned
that sex maniac BJ Clinton who should be in jail for perjury and
obstruction
of justice the same thing libby is accused of.
OK. so theres one vote for Clintons *****.
And speaking of being lead around b y a ring in their nose,its democrats
who
march around in lockstep the very same as they did with old BJ, it did not
matter what he did you democrats defended it in unison.
I did not. I called for his resignation. But, the differnce between Clintons
charges and Libby are different. Clinton lied about sex, Libby lied about
treason. You may think sex is worse than treason, but a lot of us would
disagree. And I see you still,want a "BJ" to bad...women must not like you.
Maybe you could call Jeff Gannon's Gay Republican escort service and get
that "BJ" you need so bad. Bush prefered Gannon, so I guess you would like
him.
.At least we repunlicans can argue among ourselfs about various positions,
somthing you never see democrats do.
No you dont, all you do is smear anone who diagrees with you. What about
the way Frist went for Lotts neck when Lott proved his racism?
If you listen to Chucky Shummer, Ted Kennedy or the imperial wizard from
WVirginia you will hear it from every democrat ver batim and in lock step.
Funny, some of you guys are saying the democrats are all fighting and
disagreeing, make up your minds.
If you listen to Frist, Delay Libby, all you will hear is explanations about
why they are not criminals. You currently have quite a few criminal
defendants in your fold, and they all stink of treason and obstructing our
justice system. GoAhead and scream Clinton it's all you got.
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01 Nov 2005 11:24:07 AM |
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"E.E.Bud Keith" <budk101@comcast.net> wrote in message
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"XTS" <xts@Xwoh.rr.com> wrote in message
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"Nomen Nescio" <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote in
message
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http://media.nationalreview.com/
Howard Dean did not allow Matthews the closet dwelling bush asskisser to
paint him into a corner. He's light years ahead of you, mathews. Kay B
Hutchinson, Graham, libby, rove delay, frist, cheney bush or anyone you
can
put up againt him. Compare him with how Kay Hutchinson stuck her big
foot
in her big stupid mouth last sunday doofus.
You're so used to seeing your parties leaders get led around by nose
rings
you don't know it when Mr Dean skillfully avoids a sophmoric Matthews
trap.
To bad Irvin Lewis Scooter Libby was not that shrewd with te FBI and the
grand jury, he would not have had to resign in humilitaion and would not
have to be arraigned in a federal court of law Thursady morning. Try
again
moron. You idiots are making the democrats the party of moderation and
common sense while you play frisbee with each other on the outer fringe
of
political insaniity. Call Ann Coulter and have her make some more wild
and
crazy statement to the american public, that horseface ***** creates new
democrats everytime she opens her manly jaws.
Speaking of morons, you meet the definition of that word,no doubt about
that.
I would not shout to loud about Libby when it was your party who spawned
that sex maniac BJ Clinton who should be in jail for perjury and
obstruction of justice the same thing libby is accused of.
And speaking of being lead around b y a ring in their nose,its democrats
who march around in lockstep the very same as they did with old BJ, it did
not matter what he did you democrats defended it in unison.
.At least we repunlicans can argue among ourselfs about various positions,
somthing you never see democrats do.
If you listen to Chucky Shummer, Ted Kennedy or the imperial wizard from
WVirginia you will hear it from every democrat ver batim and in lock step.
rofl Ol' buddy has his parties switched again.
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| User: "E.E.Bud Keith" |
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01 Nov 2005 11:29:33 AM |
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"ouroboros rex" <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote in message
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"E.E.Bud Keith" <budk101@comcast.net> wrote in message
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http://media.nationalreview.com/
Howard Dean did not allow Matthews the closet dwelling bush asskisser to
paint him into a corner. He's light years ahead of you, mathews. Kay B
Hutchinson, Graham, libby, rove delay, frist, cheney bush or anyone you
can
put up againt him. Compare him with how Kay Hutchinson stuck her big
foot
in her big stupid mouth last sunday doofus.
You're so used to seeing your parties leaders get led around by nose
rings
you don't know it when Mr Dean skillfully avoids a sophmoric Matthews
trap.
To bad Irvin Lewis Scooter Libby was not that shrewd with te FBI and the
grand jury, he would not have had to resign in humilitaion and would not
have to be arraigned in a federal court of law Thursady morning. Try
again
moron. You idiots are making the democrats the party of moderation and
common sense while you play frisbee with each other on the outer fringe
of
political insaniity. Call Ann Coulter and have her make some more wild
and
crazy statement to the american public, that horseface ***** creates new
democrats everytime she opens her manly jaws.
Speaking of morons, you meet the definition of that word,no doubt about
that.
I would not shout to loud about Libby when it was your party who spawned
that sex maniac BJ Clinton who should be in jail for perjury and
obstruction of justice the same thing libby is accused of.
And speaking of being lead around b y a ring in their nose,its democrats
who march around in lockstep the very same as they did with old BJ, it
did not matter what he did you democrats defended it in unison.
.At least we repunlicans can argue among ourselfs about various
positions, somthing you never see democrats do.
If you listen to Chucky Shummer, Ted Kennedy or the imperial wizard from
WVirginia you will hear it from every democrat ver batim and in lock
step.
rofl Ol' buddy has his parties switched again.
And you sir are playing with your peter again.
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01 Nov 2005 01:42:02 AM |
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"E.E.Bud Keith" <budk101@comcast.net> wrote in message
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I would not shout to loud about Libby when it was your party who spawned
that sex maniac BJ Clinton who should be in jail for perjury and
obstruction of justice the same thing libby is accused of.
What "justice" was Clinton obstructing?
--
JW
***************
"You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have
you left no sense of decency?"
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/welch-mccarthy.html
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| User: "Egbert Sousè" |
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01 Nov 2005 12:19:23 PM |
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On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 06:15:19 GMT, "XTS" <xts@Xwoh.rr.com> wrote:
"Nomen Nescio" <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote in message
news:02a02ded3b42b31bc1c9a788f4cec7ee@dizum.com...
http://media.nationalreview.com/
Howard Dean did not allow Matthews the closet dwelling bush asskisser to
paint him into a corner. He's light years ahead of you, mathews. Kay B
Hutchinson, Graham, libby, rove delay, frist, cheney bush or anyone you can
put up againt him. Compare him with how Kay Hutchinson stuck her big foot
in her big stupid mouth last sunday doofus.
You're so used to seeing your parties leaders get led around by nose rings
you don't know it when Mr Dean skillfully avoids a sophmoric Matthews trap.
To bad Irvin Lewis Scooter Libby was not that shrewd with te FBI and the
grand jury, he would not have had to resign in humilitaion and would not
have to be arraigned in a federal court of law Thursady morning. Try again
moron. You idiots are making the democrats the party of moderation and
common sense while you play frisbee with each other on the outer fringe of
political insaniity. Call Ann Coulter and have her make some more wild and
crazy statement to the american public, that horseface ***** creates new
democrats everytime she opens her manly jaws.
Howard Dean is the gift that keeps on giving.
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| User: "Rex the Reaper" |
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01 Nov 2005 12:33:07 PM |
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Egbert Sous=E8 wrote:
Howard Dean is the gift that keeps on giving.
And yet we have yet to see any evidence that he's been an advantage for
you guys other than your own delusions.
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| User: "glw82664" |
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01 Nov 2005 12:58:20 PM |
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Rex the Reaper wrote:
Egbert Sous=E8 wrote:
Howard Dean is the gift that keeps on giving.
And yet we have yet to see any evidence that he's been an advantage for
you guys other than your own delusions.
What party holds the presidency, house, senate and soon to be
judiciary? I thought McAuliff was the motherload for the gop, but Dean
is the gift that keeps on giving.
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01 Nov 2005 06:06:06 PM |
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"glw82664" <glw82664@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Rex the Reaper wrote:
Egbert Sousè wrote:
Howard Dean is the gift that keeps on giving.
And yet we have yet to see any evidence that he's been an advantage for
you guys other than your own delusions.
What party holds the presidency, house, senate and soon to be
judiciary? I thought McAuliff was the motherload for the gop, but Dean
is the gift that keeps on giving.
No, when you are a GW Bush, and fear is the only way you have gained power,
Terrorism, and Osama Bin Missing for 4 years is the gift that keeps on
giving.
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| User: "kidigus" |
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| Title: Re: Thanks again for Howard Dean, Democrats |
02 Nov 2005 01:05:02 AM |
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I believe that very few people actually think of abortion as killing a
child. If mothers were wheeling strollers into abortion clinics and
coming out empty handed I would blow the fucking place to bits. I
wouldn't fight the perpetrators of such a crime using reason and
propaganda and clever bumper stickers. I would fucking kill them.
Imagine, watching a woman walking into an abortion clinic pushing that
stroller...can you see her in your minds eye? Imagine the occupant of
the stroller looking around wondering "What's this?" and "Where
are we?"...see him?...see her? Now imagine the occupant of the
stroller being pushed through waiting rooms and finally into the last
room he or she will ever see.
What follows is awful. What follows will not be described. What
follows is worth my life and the life of anyone who tries to stop me to
prevent. No human worth there salt would dispute that. And yet nearly
all humans allow the current practice of terminating a pregnancy to
continue without lifting a finger to stop it. Why is that? Are you
scared? Would you be scared in the above scenario? What would your
bumper sticker say?
You talk very big. You think big thoughts. But do you believe?
Well?
I only ask because you really don't ACT like you believe.
Go ahead and stop them. Send the message. You do, and you will learn
what society thinks about murder. Make your case to the courts and you
will hear what your peers have to say about who the evil people are.
Ask Paul Hill. Oh, right he was executed for murder. He believed
though. He acted like he believed. He was wrong, and he paid the
price.
Keep talking though. People ARE listening. Very few are believing.
P.S.: For God's thoughts on abortion I refer you to the only verses I
could find in the good book that tackle this most important of
spiritual issues: Exodus 21:22-23
P.P.S.: Note both the circumstances and the punishment.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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02 Nov 2005 09:50:06 PM |
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glw82664 <glw82664@hotmail.com> wrote:
Rex the Reaper wrote:
Egbert Sous=E8 wrote:
Howard Dean is the gift that keeps on giving.
And yet we have yet to see any evidence that he's been an advantage for
you guys other than your own delusions.
What party holds the presidency, house, senate and soon to be
judiciary? I thought McAuliff was the motherload for the gop, but Dean
is the gift that keeps on giving.
It's all a cult with you republicans, isn't it? All you care about is
whether your "team" wins, and never mind how much you're screwed as a
result.
Pretty stupid.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Geo" |
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03 Nov 2005 08:21:35 AM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
glw82664 <glw82664@hotmail.com> wrote:
Rex the Reaper wrote:
Egbert Sous=E8 wrote:
Howard Dean is the gift that keeps on giving.
And yet we have yet to see any evidence that he's been an advantage for
you guys other than your own delusions.
What party holds the presidency, house, senate and soon to be
judiciary? I thought McAuliff was the motherload for the gop, but Dean
is the gift that keeps on giving.
It's all a cult with you republicans, isn't it? All you care about is
whether your "team" wins, and never mind how much you're screwed as a
result.
And this is different than the left wing nuts how?
Pretty stupid.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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03 Nov 2005 11:47:01 AM |
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Geo <taxpayer779@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
glw82664 <glw82664@hotmail.com> wrote:
Rex the Reaper wrote:
Egbert Sous=E8 wrote:
Howard Dean is the gift that keeps on giving.
And yet we have yet to see any evidence that he's been an advantage for
you guys other than your own delusions.
What party holds the presidency, house, senate and soon to be
judiciary? I thought McAuliff was the motherload for the gop, but Dean
is the gift that keeps on giving.
It's all a cult with you republicans, isn't it? All you care about is
whether your "team" wins, and never mind how much you're screwed as a
result.
And this is different than the left wing nuts how?
The "left" doesn't support people determined to destroy America just
because their on the same "team".
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Rex the Reaper" |
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| Title: Re: Thanks again for Howard Dean, Democrats |
01 Nov 2005 01:57:01 PM |
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glw82664 wrote:
What party holds the presidency, house, senate and soon to be
judiciary? I thought McAuliff was the motherload for the gop, but Dean
is the gift that keeps on giving.
Uh, didn't those things happen before Dean became the chairman? Like I
said, no proof he's "the gift that keeps on giving" other than your own
fantasy.
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| User: "Egbert Sousè" |
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| Title: Re: Thanks again for Howard Dean, Democrats |
01 Nov 2005 05:24:41 PM |
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On 1 Nov 2005 11:57:01 -0800, "Rex the Reaper"
<natjackm92us@yahoo.com> wrote:
glw82664 wrote:
What party holds the presidency, house, senate and soon to be
judiciary? I thought McAuliff was the motherload for the gop, but Dean
is the gift that keeps on giving.
Uh, didn't those things happen before Dean became the chairman? Like I
said, no proof he's "the gift that keeps on giving" other than your own
fantasy.
"We (the Democrat Party) will regain control of both Houses and kick
Jeb Bush out of office."-Terry McAulliffe, October 2002.
The Repub gained seats in both Houses and Jeb Bush won in a landslide.
So then the Dem Party got Howard Dean and rode off into the sunset.
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| User: "John Black" |
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01 Nov 2005 10:11:09 AM |
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In article <02a02ded3b42b31bc1c9a788f4cec7ee@dizum.com>, Use-Author-
Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1] says...
http://media.nationalreview.com/
Chris Matthews had Howard Dean on "Hardball" tonight, and the
DNC chairman could not bring himself to say that the Democrats
are the pro-choice party. But Matthews would not give up, and
what followed was like some kind of weird improv game from the
Drew Carey show. Matthews' goal was to get Dean to say "pro-
choice." Dean's goal was to defend the pro-choice position
without actually saying the words, "pro-choice":
MATTHEWS: So the Democrats are the pro-choice party, period?
DEAN: The government?
MATTHEWS: The Democrats, your party, is the pro-choice party.
DEAN: No, my party respects everybody?s views, but my party
firmly believes that the government should stay out of people?s
personal lives.
MATTHEWS: But you?re a pro-choice party, are you not? You sound
like you?re against them for being pro-life. Are you pro-choice?
DEAN: I?m not against people for being pro-life. I actually was
the first chairman who met for a long, for a long time, who met
with the pro-life Democrats?
MATTHEWS: This is a complicated thing for people. The people
believe the Republican party because of its record supports the
pro-life position. Does your party support the pro-choice
position?
DEAN: The position we support is, a woman has a right to make,
and a family has a right to make up their own mind about their
health care without government interference.
MATTHEWS: That?s pro-choice.
DEAN: A woman and a family have a right to make up their own
minds about their health care without government interference.
That?s our position.
This is the best quote for a lot of reasons. First, he uses the term
"health care" instead of abortion because he can't even admit what he is
talking about, let alone talk about it. But the really funny part is
the idea of getting the government out of "health care" is about the
farthest thing from what the democrats want to do. They want socialized
medicine.
MATTHEWS: Why do you hesitate to use the phrase ?pro-choice??
DEAN: Because I think it?s often misused. If you?re pro-choice
it implies you?re not pro-life ? that?s not true. There are a
lot of pro-life Democrats. We respect them, but we believe the
government should?
MATTHEWS: Do you believe in abortion rights?
DEAN: I believe the government should stay out of personal, of
the personal lives of families and women. They should stay out
of our lives. That?s what I believe.
MATTHEWS: I find it interesting that you have hesitated to say
what the party has always stood for, which is the pro-choice
position?
DEAN: The party believes the government does not belong in
making personal decisions.
MATTHEWS: Okay, I?m learning things here about a hesitancy I
didn?t know about before.
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HA! HA! HA! HA! The "brilliant" Dr Dean embarrasses his party
again!
Dean is awesome. He has to be a Republican plant. Every time he goes
on TV, he destroys the democrats. I'm still laughing about when he
admitted that democrats are socialists on Meet the Press.
John Black
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02 Nov 2005 09:42:13 AM |
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In article <MPG.1dd14fa732b42ffa9899c8@news.chi.sbcglobal.net>,
jblack@texas.net says...
DEAN: A woman and a family have a right to make up their own
minds about their health care without government interference.
That?s our position.
This is the best quote for a lot of reasons. First, he uses the term
"health care" instead of abortion because he can't even admit what he is
talking about, let alone talk about it. But the really funny part is
the idea of getting the government out of "health care" is about the
farthest thing from what the democrats want to do. They want socialized
medicine.
Actually, here is another hilarious quote from that interview:
"If you're pro-choice it implies you're not pro-life - that's not true."
-- Howard Dean
John Black
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02 Nov 2005 09:51:01 PM |
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John Black <jblack@texas.net> wrote:
Actually, here is another hilarious quote from that interview:
"If you're pro-choice it implies you're not pro-life - that's not true."
-- Howard Dean
He is right. Pity you're not smart enough to understand why, but then
you're a republican so we wouldn't expect you to be very smart.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "osprey" |
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02 Nov 2005 09:59:14 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:dkc1f4$aj7$1@bolt.sonic.net...
John Black <jblack@texas.net> wrote:
Actually, here is another hilarious quote from that interview:
"If you're pro-choice it implies you're not pro-life - that's not true."
-- Howard Dean
He is right. Pity you're not smart enough to understand why, but then
you're a republican so we wouldn't expect you to be very smart.
Hmmm, and Fischer claims he isn't a bigot. Tell us Fischer, what's
different saying what you just said and someone else saying, well, you're
black so we don't expect you to be very smart?
Hmm...driberals seem to think that..since they favor affirmative action and
some acceptance tests, example..state troopers, should have their questions
changed because they feel that blacks can't answer them.
From all observations, you can't run from the "fact" that you are a stupid
bigot.
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02 Nov 2005 10:26:03 PM |
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osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:dkc1f4$aj7$1@bolt.sonic.net...
John Black <jblack@texas.net> wrote:
Actually, here is another hilarious quote from that interview:
"If you're pro-choice it implies you're not pro-life - that's not true."
-- Howard Dean
He is right. Pity you're not smart enough to understand why, but then
you're a republican so we wouldn't expect you to be very smart.
Hmmm, and Fischer claims he isn't a bigot.
Golly. Idiot heishman is right about soemthing.
Tell us Fischer, what's
***** off, turd.
different saying what you just said and someone else saying, well, you're
black so we don't expect you to be very smart?
Damn you're stupid.
Can people choose whether to be black, moron? Can you choose whether
to be a lying bigot and all-round *****?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "osprey" |
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02 Nov 2005 10:34:20 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:dkc3gq$dac$1@bolt.sonic.net...
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:dkc1f4$aj7$1@bolt.sonic.net...
John Black <jblack@texas.net> wrote:
Actually, here is another hilarious quote from that interview:
"If you're pro-choice it implies you're not pro-life - that's not true."
-- Howard Dean
He is right. Pity you're not smart enough to understand why, but then
you're a republican so we wouldn't expect you to be very smart.
Hmmm, and Fischer claims he isn't a bigot.
Golly. Idiot heishman is right about soemthing.
Tell us Fischer, what's
***** off, turd.
different saying what you just said and someone else saying, well, you're
black so we don't expect you to be very smart?
Damn you're stupid.
Can people choose whether to be black, moron? Can you choose whether
to be a lying bigot and all-round *****?
So you really have no response.
Unfortunately for you, you did CHOOSE to be al ying bigot and all-around
*****.
There is no difference in saying what you said and my example..both
statements are made from ignorance and bigotry.
You can't defend yourself.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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02 Nov 2005 11:24:36 PM |
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osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:dkc3gq$dac$1@bolt.sonic.net...
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:dkc1f4$aj7$1@bolt.sonic.net...
John Black <jblack@texas.net> wrote:
Actually, here is another hilarious quote from that interview:
"If you're pro-choice it implies you're not pro-life - that's not true."
-- Howard Dean
He is right. Pity you're not smart enough to understand why, but then
you're a republican so we wouldn't expect you to be very smart.
Hmmm, and Fischer claims he isn't a bigot.
Golly. Idiot heishman is right about soemthing.
Tell us Fischer, what's
***** off, turd.
different saying what you just said and someone else saying, well, you're
black so we don't expect you to be very smart?
Damn you're stupid.
Can people choose whether to be black, moron? Can you choose whether
to be a lying bigot and all-round *****?
So you really have no response.
You didn't answer the question, coward.
As usual you spew your ***** then run away like a little baby.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "osprey" |
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02 Nov 2005 11:53:29 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:dkc6uj$fmu$1@bolt.sonic.net...
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:dkc3gq$dac$1@bolt.sonic.net...
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:dkc1f4$aj7$1@bolt.sonic.net...
John Black <jblack@texas.net> wrote:
Actually, here is another hilarious quote from that interview:
"If you're pro-choice it implies you're not pro-life - that's not
true."
-- Howard Dean
He is right. Pity you're not smart enough to understand why, but then
you're a republican so we wouldn't expect you to be very smart.
Hmmm, and Fischer claims he isn't a bigot.
Golly. Idiot heishman is right about soemthing.
Tell us Fischer, what's
***** off, turd.
different saying what you just said and someone else saying, well,
you're
black so we don't expect you to be very smart?
Damn you're stupid.
Can people choose whether to be black, moron? Can you choose whether
to be a lying bigot and all-round *****?
So you really have no response.
You didn't answer the question, coward.
I answered your question moron. The fact is...you are a bigot.
You are a 100% Grade A all-around bigot.
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| User: "George" |
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| Title: Re: Thanks again for Howard Dean, Democrats |
03 Nov 2005 11:13:12 AM |
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On 2005-11-02 21:53:29 -0800, "osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> said:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:dkc6uj$fmu$1@bolt.sonic.net...
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:dkc3gq$dac$1@bolt.sonic.net...
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:dkc1f4$aj7$1@bolt.sonic.net...
John Black <jblack@texas.net> wrote:
Actually, here is another hilarious quote from that interview:
"If you're pro-choice it implies you're not pro-life - that's not true."
-- Howard Dean
He is right. Pity you're not smart enough to understand why, but then
you're a republican so we wouldn't expect you to be very smart.
Hmmm, and Fischer claims he isn't a bigot.
Golly. Idiot heishman is right about soemthing.
Tell us Fischer, what's
***** off, turd.
different saying what you just said and someone else saying, well, you're
black so we don't expect you to be very smart?
Damn you're stupid.
Can people choose whether to be black, moron? Can you choose whether
to be a lying bigot and all-round *****?
So you really have no response.
You didn't answer the question, coward.
I answered your question moron. The fact is...you are a bigot.
You are a 100% Grade A all-around bigot.
Run, chickenshit!
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| User: "osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Thanks again for Howard Dean, Democrats |
03 Nov 2005 11:30:27 AM |
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"George" <ggains@waddfr.edu> wrote in message
news:2005110309131243658%ggains@waddfredu...
On 2005-11-02 21:53:29 -0800, "osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> said:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:dkc6uj$fmu$1@bolt.sonic.net...
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:dkc3gq$dac$1@bolt.sonic.net...
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:dkc1f4$aj7$1@bolt.sonic.net...
John Black <jblack@texas.net> wrote:
Actually, here is another hilarious quote from that interview:
"If you're pro-choice it implies you're not pro-life - that's not
true."
-- Howard Dean
He is right. Pity you're not smart enough to understand why, but
then
you're a republican so we wouldn't expect you to be very smart.
Hmmm, and Fischer claims he isn't a bigot.
Golly. Idiot heishman is right about soemthing.
Tell us Fischer, what's
***** off, turd.
different saying what you just said and someone else saying, well,
you're
black so we don't expect you to be very smart?
Damn you're stupid.
Can people choose whether to be black, moron? Can you choose whether
to be a lying bigot and all-round *****?
So you really have no response.
You didn't answer the question, coward.
I answered your question moron. The fact is...you are a bigot.
You are a 100% Grade A all-around bigot.
Run, chickenshit!
Support your claims
From: George <ggains@waddfr.edu>
Message-ID: <2005100714434675249%ggains@waddfredu>
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 14:43:46 -0700
"We are the morality cops in the world. It is our destiny," - Peter
H. Hansen, Houston, TX - (Republican)
[The above is a lie, there is no record of any Peter H. Hansen saying
anything like that]
From: George <ggains@waddfr.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.abortion
Message-ID: <2005103112132116807%ggains@waddfredu>
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 12:13:21 -0800
Now Osprey is defending those who expose CIA agents. What next?
[The above is a lie, I have never defended those who expose CIA agents.]
From: George <ggains@waddfr.edu>
Message-ID: <200511010951548930%ggains@waddfredu>
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 09:51:54 -0800
You have admitted to being a racist.
You have admitted to being in
trouble at work for your activities.
[Both claims above are just plain outright lies]
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Now, chickenshit..are you going to run or are you going to prove your claims
to be true?
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| User: "George" |
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| Title: Re: Thanks again for Howard Dean, Democrats |
03 Nov 2005 04:05:28 PM |
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On 2005-11-03 09:30:27 -0800, "osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> said:
"George" <ggains@waddfr.edu> wrote in message
news:2005110309131243658%ggains@waddfredu...
On 2005-11-02 21:53:29 -0800, "osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> said:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:dkc6uj$fmu$1@bolt.sonic.net...
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:dkc3gq$dac$1@bolt.sonic.net...
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:dkc1f4$aj7$1@bolt.sonic.net...
John Black <jblack@texas.net> wrote:
Actually, here is another hilarious quote from that interview:
"If you're pro-choice it implies you're not pro-life - that's not true."
-- Howard Dean
He is right. Pity you're not smart enough to understand why, but then
you're a republican so we wouldn't expect you to be very smart.
Hmmm, and Fischer claims he isn't a bigot.
Golly. Idiot heishman is right about soemthing.
Tell us Fischer, what's
***** off, turd.
different saying what you just said and someone else saying, well, you're
black so we don't expect you to be very smart?
Damn you're stupid.
Can people choose whether to be black, moron? Can you choose whether
to be a lying bigot and all-round *****?
So you really have no response.
You didn't answer the question, coward.
I answered your question moron. The fact is...you are a bigot.
You are a 100% Grade A all-around bigot.
Run, chickenshit!
Support your claims
How many times?
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| User: "osprey" |
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04 Nov 2005 08:23:51 AM |
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"George" <ggains@waddfr.edu> wrote in message
news:2005110314052875249%ggains@waddfredu...
On 2005-11-03 09:30:27 -0800, "osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> said:
"George" <ggains@waddfr.edu> wrote in message
news:2005110309131243658%ggains@waddfredu...
On 2005-11-02 21:53:29 -0800, "osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> said:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:dkc6uj$fmu$1@bolt.sonic.net...
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:dkc3gq$dac$1@bolt.sonic.net...
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:dkc1f4$aj7$1@bolt.sonic.net...
John Black <jblack@texas.net> wrote:
Actually, here is another hilarious quote from that interview:
"If you're pro-choice it implies you're not pro-life - that's not
true."
-- Howard Dean
He is right. Pity you're not smart enough to understand why, but
then
you're a republican so we wouldn't expect you to be very smart.
Hmmm, and Fischer claims he isn't a bigot.
Golly. Idiot heishman is right about soemthing.
Tell us Fischer, what's
***** off, turd.
different saying what you just said and someone else saying, well,
you're
black so we don't expect you to be very smart?
Damn you're stupid.
Can people choose whether to be black, moron? Can you choose
whether
to be a lying bigot and all-round *****?
So you really have no response.
You didn't answer the question, coward.
I answered your question moron. The fact is...you are a bigot.
You are a 100% Grade A all-around bigot.
Run, chickenshit!
Support your claims
How many times?
A first time would be nice.
From: George <ggains@waddfr.edu>
Message-ID: <2005100714434675249%ggains@waddfredu>
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 14:43:46 -0700
"We are the morality cops in the world. It is our destiny," - Peter
H. Hansen, Houston, TX - (Republican)
[The above is a lie, there is no record of any Peter H. Hansen saying
anything like that]
From: George <ggains@waddfr.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.abortion
Message-ID: <2005103112132116807%ggains@waddfredu>
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 12:13:21 -0800
Now Osprey is defending those who expose CIA agents. What next?
[The above is a lie, I have never defended those who expose CIA agents.]
From: George <ggains@waddfr.edu>
Message-ID: <200511010951548930%ggains@waddfredu>
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 09:51:54 -0800
You have admitted to being a racist.
You have admitted to being in
trouble at work for your activities.
[Both claims above are just plain outright lies]
From: George <ggains@waddfr.edu>
Message-ID: <2005110309171716807%ggains@waddfredu>
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 09:17:17 -0800
In fact, during bibical times abortion was quite common.
[The above is unsupported and when George was asked to support this claim he
ignored it]
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| User: "Mimi Cohen" |
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03 Nov 2005 08:14:21 PM |
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George wrote:
On 2005-11-02 21:53:29 -0800, "osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> said:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:dkc6uj$fmu$1@bolt.sonic.net...
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:dkc3gq$dac$1@bolt.sonic.net...
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:dkc1f4$aj7$1@bolt.sonic.net...
John Black <jblack@texas.net> wrote:
Actually, here is another hilarious quote from that interview:
"If you're pro-choice it implies you're not pro-life - that's
not true."
-- Howard Dean
He is right. Pity you're not smart enough to understand why, but
then
you're a republican so we wouldn't expect you to be very smart.
Hmmm, and Fischer claims he isn't a bigot.
Golly. Idiot heishman is right about soemthing.
Tell us Fischer, what's
***** off, turd.
different saying what you just said and someone else saying, well,
you're
black so we don't expect you to be very smart?
Damn you're stupid.
Can people choose whether to be black, moron? Can you choose whether
to be a lying bigot and all-round *****?
So you really have no response.
You didn't answer the question, coward.
I answered your question moron. The fact is...you are a bigot.
You are a 100% Grade A all-around bigot.
Run, chickenshit!
He's the bigot, you're not
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Thanks again for Howard Dean, Democrats |
03 Nov 2005 11:44:03 AM |
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osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:dkc6uj$fmu$1@bolt.sonic.net...
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:dkc3gq$dac$1@bolt.sonic.net...
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:dkc1f4$aj7$1@bolt.sonic.net...
John Black <jblack@texas.net> wrote:
Actually, here is another hilarious quote from that interview:
"If you're pro-choice it implies you're not pro-life - that's not
true."
-- Howard Dean
He is right. Pity you're not smart enough to understand why, but then
you're a republican so we wouldn't expect you to be very smart.
Hmmm, and Fischer claims he isn't a bigot.
Golly. Idiot heishman is right about soemthing.
Tell us Fischer, what's
***** off, turd.
different saying what you just said and someone else saying, well,
you're
black so we don't expect you to be very smart?
Damn you're stupid.
Can people choose whether to be black, moron? Can you choose whether
to be a lying bigot and all-round *****?
So you really have no response.
You didn't answer the question, coward.
I answered your question moron.
As usual the little turd lies rather than admit that he's a coward.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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