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Topic: Science > Abortion
User: "janet santana"
Date: 08 Jul 2004 04:47:45 PM
Object: The Abortion Machine
Turn on the abortion machine
what difference does it make?
Turn on the abortion machine
nine months is too long to wait
http://www.abortiontv.com/AbortionPictures3.htm
.

User: "Horatio"

Title: Re: The Abortion Machine 10 Jul 2004 09:00:46 PM
"Wilma" <wilmaclutterbuck@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:20040710193436.18040.qmail@nym.alias.net...

Flower Power penned:


"Wilma" <wilmaclutterbuck@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:20040710170323.32422.qmail@nym.alias.net...

Bob penned:

Wilma wrote:

Bob penned:


Wilma wrote:

Barbara's Cat penned:



On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 07:04:39 -0600


Wilma wrote:


The human race IS women, males are merely mutants. Like animals

that have

got out of control, males have used patriarchy to take over the

world and oust

women from our rightful place. We must re-establish the

matriarchy

that used to

exist.


Definition "rightful place" --> down some rat hole.


What? Oh, Bob, you have it all wrong. Women should be in charge

and

men

should only be used for reproductive purposes, i.e. sex slaves.



We do NOT need males as "sex" slaves. That is disgusting!!!

A few of them will be required for sperm production but sex with

the

creatures

will NOT be necessary. I can see that some re-education will be

necessary when

the world reverts to matriarchy.



LOL. You been spengint too much time with feminist fiction, Toots.

No culture anywhere ever was run by women. Run for women, yes, but

never

run by women. Life just doesn't work that way.



Everyone lived in a pieceful matriarchal society until the

patriarchal

hordes invaded

and forced the world under the jackboot of male tyranny.

Compensation

for this

oppression will have to be paid. The males will be compelled to

transfer the

wealth that they stole from our foremothers to us. Psychological

compensation

will also be be claimed. Males will bow their heads to women as an

acknowledgement

of their past evils.



That feminist dreamland fiction is not "education," Toots.

Go tell it to your sista's. I'm sure they are as stupid as you.


Sista's? So your racist as well as sexist and stupid, you chavinist

pig.

==========================
Besides being a misogynistic, sadistic homicidal sociopath, Bob DeBlob is
also a homophobe. This NG gets them all.


Like all chavinists, he's just a pig. Don't let him intimate you.

certainly don't let him "intimate" you without protection lest we be forced
to toss a coin and decide whether to butcher the shrew or boil the child in
bathwater.
-H







































































.
User: "Dennis M. Hammes"

Title: Re: The Abortion Machine 11 Jul 2004 11:22:14 AM
Horatio wrote:


"Wilma" <wilmaclutterbuck@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:20040710193436.18040.qmail@nym.alias.net...

Flower Power penned:

....


Sista's? So your racist as well as sexist and stupid, you chavinist

pig.

==========================
Besides being a misogynistic, sadistic homicidal sociopath, Bob DeBlob is
also a homophobe. This NG gets them all.


Like all chavinists, he's just a pig. Don't let him intimate you.


certainly don't let him "intimate" you without protection lest we be forced
to toss a coin and decide whether to butcher the shrew or boil the child in
bathwater.

-H

"Both" is always an option in /any/ quaternion.
And at least use some cheap olive oil and brandy.
We're spoZe to have a /little/ Kulchur on this froup...
--
-------(m+
~/:o)_|
The most essential gift for a good writer is
a built-in, shock-proof, ***** detector. -- Hemingway
http://scrawlmark.org
.
User: "Horatio"

Title: Re: The Abortion Machine 11 Jul 2004 04:07:25 PM
"Dennis M. Hammes" <scrawlmark@arvig.net> wrote in message
news:40F16AD8.28AC9876@arvig.net...

Horatio wrote:


"Wilma" <wilmaclutterbuck@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:20040710193436.18040.qmail@nym.alias.net...

Flower Power penned:

...


Sista's? So your racist as well as sexist and stupid, you chavinist

pig.

==========================
Besides being a misogynistic, sadistic homicidal sociopath, Bob

DeBlob is

also a homophobe. This NG gets them all.


Like all chavinists, he's just a pig. Don't let him intimate you.


certainly don't let him "intimate" you without protection lest we be

forced

to toss a coin and decide whether to butcher the shrew or boil the child

in

bathwater.

-H


"Both" is always an option in /any/ quaternion.
And at least use some cheap olive oil and brandy.
We're spoZe to have a /little/ Kulchur on this froup...

What about a firm cudgeling or an old fashioned tar-and feathers for the
intimator and a Scarlet "F" for the fornicator tattooed on her forehead.
The bratling can be anointed with olive oil and torched with brandy if it
makes you happy, Dennis.
-H
Always culturally "correct"

--
-------(m+
~/:o)_|
The most essential gift for a good writer is
a built-in, shock-proof, ***** detector. -- Hemingway
http://scrawlmark.org

.
User: "Dennis M. Hammes"

Title: Re: The Abortion Machine 12 Jul 2004 02:44:25 AM
Horatio wrote:


"Dennis M. Hammes" <scrawlmark@arvig.net> wrote in message
news:40F16AD8.28AC9876@arvig.net...

Horatio wrote:


"Wilma" <wilmaclutterbuck@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:20040710193436.18040.qmail@nym.alias.net...

Flower Power penned:

...


Sista's? So your racist as well as sexist and stupid, you chavinist

pig.

==========================
Besides being a misogynistic, sadistic homicidal sociopath, Bob

DeBlob is

also a homophobe. This NG gets them all.


Like all chavinists, he's just a pig. Don't let him intimate you.


certainly don't let him "intimate" you without protection lest we be

forced

to toss a coin and decide whether to butcher the shrew or boil the child

in

bathwater.

-H


"Both" is always an option in /any/ quaternion.
And at least use some cheap olive oil and brandy.
We're spoZe to have a /little/ Kulchur on this froup...


What about a firm cudgeling or an old fashioned tar-and feathers for the
intimator and a Scarlet "F" for the fornicator tattooed on her forehead.

Tattoos? Lissen, kid, if you write it in strawberry jam, you can
rescue her virtue merely by licking it off.
And just think of all the places to write it that are so much
better than the forehead.


The bratling can be anointed with olive oil and torched with brandy if it
makes you happy, Dennis.

Actually, brats are just fine sauteed in their own fat, especially
if you also let it brown the kraut. Most kraut also takes a good
dose of rubbed caraway.


-H

Always culturally "correct"

--
-------(m+
~/:o)_|
The most essential gift for a good writer is
a built-in, shock-proof, ***** detector. -- Hemingway
http://scrawlmark.org

--
-------(m+
~/:o)_|
The most essential gift for a good writer is
a built-in, shock-proof, ***** detector. -- Hemingway
http://scrawlmark.org
.



User: "Bob"

Title: Re: The Abortion Machine 11 Jul 2004 11:33:01 AM
Horatio wrote:

"Wilma" <wilmaclutterbuck@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:20040710193436.18040.qmail@nym.alias.net...

Flower Power penned:


"Wilma" <wilmaclutterbuck@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:20040710170323.32422.qmail@nym.alias.net...

Bob penned:


Wilma wrote:

Bob penned:



Wilma wrote:


Barbara's Cat penned:




On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 07:04:39 -0600



Wilma wrote:



The human race IS women, males are merely mutants. Like animals


that have

got out of control, males have used patriarchy to take over the


world and oust

women from our rightful place. We must re-establish the


matriarchy

that used to

exist.


Definition "rightful place" --> down some rat hole.


What? Oh, Bob, you have it all wrong. Women should be in charge


and

men

should only be used for reproductive purposes, i.e. sex slaves.



We do NOT need males as "sex" slaves. That is disgusting!!!

A few of them will be required for sperm production but sex with


the

creatures

will NOT be necessary. I can see that some re-education will be


necessary when

the world reverts to matriarchy.



LOL. You been spengint too much time with feminist fiction, Toots.

No culture anywhere ever was run by women. Run for women, yes, but


never

run by women. Life just doesn't work that way.



Everyone lived in a pieceful matriarchal society until the


patriarchal

hordes invaded

and forced the world under the jackboot of male tyranny.


Compensation

for this

oppression will have to be paid. The males will be compelled to


transfer the

wealth that they stole from our foremothers to us. Psychological


compensation

will also be be claimed. Males will bow their heads to women as an


acknowledgement

of their past evils.



That feminist dreamland fiction is not "education," Toots.

Go tell it to your sista's. I'm sure they are as stupid as you.


Sista's? So your racist as well as sexist and stupid, you chavinist


pig.

==========================
Besides being a misogynistic, sadistic homicidal sociopath, Bob DeBlob is
also a homophobe. This NG gets them all.


Like all chavinists, he's just a pig. Don't let him intimate you.



certainly don't let him "intimate" you without protection lest we be forced
to toss a coin and decide whether to butcher the shrew or boil the child in
bathwater.
-H

Hmmmmmm? Might not be such a bad idea at that.
"I have been assured by a very knowing American of my acquaintance in
London, that a young healthy child well nursed is at a year old a most
delicious, nourishing, and wholesome food, whether stewed, roasted,
baked, or boiled ..."
http://art-bin.com/art/omodest.html
;-)
--
When did we divide into sides?
"As president, I will put American government and our legal system back
on the side of women." John Kerry, misandrist Democratic candidate for
President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/
[Bob does not advocate any illegal, seditious, or immoral acts. All
posts are for discussion, rhetorical, or humorous purposes only.]
.


User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: The Abortion Machine 11 Jul 2004 01:12:36 PM
Wilma <wilmaclutterbuck@btinternet.com> wrote:

Flower Power penned:


"Wilma" <wilmaclutterbuck@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:20040710170323.32422.qmail@nym.alias.net...

Bob penned:

Wilma wrote:

Bob penned:


Wilma wrote:

Barbara's Cat penned:



On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 07:04:39 -0600


Wilma wrote:


The human race IS women, males are merely mutants. Like animals

that have

got out of control, males have used patriarchy to take over the

world and oust

women from our rightful place. We must re-establish the matriarchy

that used to

exist.


Definition "rightful place" --> down some rat hole.


What? Oh, Bob, you have it all wrong. Women should be in charge and

men

should only be used for reproductive purposes, i.e. sex slaves.



We do NOT need males as "sex" slaves. That is disgusting!!!

A few of them will be required for sperm production but sex with the

creatures

will NOT be necessary. I can see that some re-education will be

necessary when

the world reverts to matriarchy.



LOL. You been spengint too much time with feminist fiction, Toots.

No culture anywhere ever was run by women. Run for women, yes, but

never

run by women. Life just doesn't work that way.



Everyone lived in a pieceful matriarchal society until the patriarchal

hordes invaded

and forced the world under the jackboot of male tyranny. Compensation

for this

oppression will have to be paid. The males will be compelled to

transfer the

wealth that they stole from our foremothers to us. Psychological

compensation

will also be be claimed. Males will bow their heads to women as an

acknowledgement

of their past evils.



That feminist dreamland fiction is not "education," Toots.

Go tell it to your sista's. I'm sure they are as stupid as you.


Sista's? So your racist as well as sexist and stupid, you chavinist pig.

==========================
Besides being a misogynistic, sadistic homicidal sociopath, Bob DeBlob is
also a homophobe. This NG gets them all.


Like all chavinists, he's just a pig. Don't let him intimate you.

YOu are just like him. Misandrist, sadistic, homicidal, sociopath.







































































--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.

User: "Dennis M. Hammes"

Title: Re: The Abortion Machine 11 Jul 2004 11:17:38 AM
Flower Power wrote:


"Wilma" <wilmaclutterbuck@btinternet.com> wrote in message

....


Sista's? So your racist as well as sexist and stupid, you chavinist pig.

==========================
Besides being a misogynistic, sadistic homicidal sociopath, Bob DeBlob is
also a homophobe. This NG gets them all.
--

Hey. Dig a little deeper. You'll find /real/ nuts...
--
-------(m+
~/:o)_|
The most essential gift for a good writer is
a built-in, shock-proof, ***** detector. -- Hemingway
http://scrawlmark.org
.

User: "Rob Evans"

Title: Re: The Abortion Machine 10 Jul 2004 02:24:39 PM
In message <20040710170323.32422.qmail@nym.alias.net>, Wilma
<wilmaclutterbuck@btinternet.com> writes


Go tell it to your sista's. I'm sure they are as stupid as you.


Sista's? So your racist as well as sexist and stupid, you chavinist pig.

Will you two try remember that this is also being read on RAP so please
watch your language: it's "you're" and "chauvinist" ya fuckwits.
Rob
Rob Evans
.
User: "Wilma"

Title: Re: The Abortion Machine 10 Jul 2004 02:41:53 PM
Rob Evans penned:

In message <20040710170323.32422.qmail@nym.alias.net>, Wilma
<wilmaclutterbuck@btinternet.com> writes


Go tell it to your sista's. I'm sure they are as stupid as you.


Sista's? So your racist as well as sexist and stupid, you chavinist pig.

Will you two try remember that this is also being read on RAP so please
watch your language: it's "you're" and "chauvinist" ya fuckwits.

We KNOW its ours, you chavinist pig!!! What's your point?

Rob

Rob Evans

.
User: "Rob Evans"

Title: Re: The Abortion Machine 10 Jul 2004 04:40:24 PM
In message <20040710194153.8923.qmail@nym.alias.net>, Wilma
<wilmaclutterbuck@btinternet.com> writes

Rob Evans penned:

In message <20040710170323.32422.qmail@nym.alias.net>, Wilma
<wilmaclutterbuck@btinternet.com> writes


Go tell it to your sista's. I'm sure they are as stupid as you.


Sista's? So your racist as well as sexist and stupid, you chavinist pig.

Will you two try remember that this is also being read on RAP so please
watch your language: it's "you're" and "chauvinist" ya fuckwits.


We KNOW its ours, you chavinist pig!!! What's your point?

Slatquist, obviously.
Moron.
Rob
--
Rob Evans
When I see a swine
I reach for 45-calibre pearls.
.

User: "Dennis M. Hammes"

Title: Re: The Abortion Machine 11 Jul 2004 11:15:26 AM
Wilma wrote:


Rob Evans penned:

In message <20040710170323.32422.qmail@nym.alias.net>, Wilma
<wilmaclutterbuck@btinternet.com> writes


Go tell it to your sista's. I'm sure they are as stupid as you.


Sista's? So your racist as well as sexist and stupid, you chavinist pig.

Will you two try remember that this is also being read on RAP so please
watch your language: it's "you're" and "chauvinist" ya fuckwits.


We KNOW its ours, you chavinist pig!!! What's your point?

Two, actually. They useta be right up front on your chest, until
they took up Olympic navel-diving.
And since ya never had anything else going for ya, what /you/ sees
is what /you/ gets, now, too.
--
-------(m+
~/:o)_|
The most essential gift for a good writer is
a built-in, shock-proof, ***** detector. -- Hemingway
http://scrawlmark.org
.


User: "Dennis M. Hammes"

Title: Re: The Abortion Machine 11 Jul 2004 11:12:07 AM
Rob Evans wrote:


In message <20040710170323.32422.qmail@nym.alias.net>, Wilma
<wilmaclutterbuck@btinternet.com> writes


Go tell it to your sista's. I'm sure they are as stupid as you.


Sista's? So your racist as well as sexist and stupid, you chavinist pig.

Will you two try remember that this is also being read on RAP so please
watch your language: it's "you're" and "chauvinist" ya fuckwits.

Rob

Rob Evans

But when your racist and your sexist is both a chavinist pigs, you
doesn't has as much fun, so you has to take it out on something
/safe/, like PO-mets.
But on this date in 1952, E.B. White published a story in which
Spiderwoman saves a chavinist pig by spelling webs /correctly/, so
it's blatantly obvious that we've come down in the real world as
well as in the world of lithrachur.
Casting WIL-MAAAAAAAAAA as the Masked Webslinger couldn't even be
rescued by casting George Carlin as Templeton.
--
-------(m+
~/:o)_|
The most essential gift for a good writer is
a built-in, shock-proof, ***** detector. -- Hemingway
http://scrawlmark.org
.

User: "Bob"

Title: Re: The Abortion Machine 10 Jul 2004 03:10:20 PM
Rob Evans wrote:

In message <20040710170323.32422.qmail@nym.alias.net>, Wilma
<wilmaclutterbuck@btinternet.com> writes


Go tell it to your sista's. I'm sure they are as stupid as you.



Sista's? So your racist as well as sexist and stupid, you chavinist pig.

Will you two try remember that this is also being read on RAP so please
watch your language: it's "you're" and "chauvinist" ya fuckwits.

Rob

Rob Evans

When she grows up she'll learn to write.
Bob
--
When did we divide into sides?
"As president, I will put American government and our legal system back
on the side of women." John Kerry, misandrist Democratic candidate for
President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/
[Bob does not advocate any illegal, seditious, or immoral acts. All
posts are for discussion, rhetorical, or humorous purposes only.]
.


User: "Dennis M. Hammes"

Title: Re: The Abortion Machine 11 Jul 2004 11:01:46 AM
Wilma wrote:


Bob penned:

Wilma wrote:

Bob penned:


Wilma wrote:

Barbara's Cat penned:



On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 07:04:39 -0600


Wilma wrote:


The human race IS women, males are merely mutants. Like animals that have
got out of control, males have used patriarchy to take over the world and oust
women from our rightful place. We must re-establish the matriarchy that used to
exist.


Definition "rightful place" --> down some rat hole.


What? Oh, Bob, you have it all wrong. Women should be in charge and men
should only be used for reproductive purposes, i.e. sex slaves.



We do NOT need males as "sex" slaves. That is disgusting!!!

A few of them will be required for sperm production but sex with the creatures
will NOT be necessary. I can see that some re-education will be necessary when
the world reverts to matriarchy.



LOL. You been spengint too much time with feminist fiction, Toots.

No culture anywhere ever was run by women. Run for women, yes, but never
run by women. Life just doesn't work that way.



Everyone lived in a pieceful matriarchal society until the patriarchal hordes invaded
and forced the world under the jackboot of male tyranny. Compensation for this
oppression will have to be paid. The males will be compelled to transfer the
wealth that they stole from our foremothers to us. Psychological compensation
will also be be claimed. Males will bow their heads to women as an acknowledgement
of their past evils.



That feminist dreamland fiction is not "education," Toots.

Go tell it to your sista's. I'm sure they are as stupid as you.


Sista's? So your racist as well as sexist and stupid, you chavinist pig.

"WIL-MAAAAAAAAAAA..."
"*****" is formed on /renegare/, "to cut off."
No, not /that/, sista.
Your contract or oath. "To renege."
One who does so is a "*****," sista.
Though gibbering about "cutting off" the other will certainly do
for the contract/oath, nome sane?
--
-------(m+
~/:o)_|
The most essential gift for a good writer is
a built-in, shock-proof, ***** detector. -- Hemingway
http://scrawlmark.org
.

User: "Bob"

Title: Re: The Abortion Machine 10 Jul 2004 03:06:39 PM
Wilma wrote:

Bob penned:


Wilma wrote:

Bob penned:



Wilma wrote:


Barbara's Cat penned:




On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 07:04:39 -0600



Wilma wrote:



The human race IS women, males are merely mutants. Like animals that have
got out of control, males have used patriarchy to take over the world and oust
women from our rightful place. We must re-establish the matriarchy that used to
exist.


Definition "rightful place" --> down some rat hole.


What? Oh, Bob, you have it all wrong. Women should be in charge and men
should only be used for reproductive purposes, i.e. sex slaves.



We do NOT need males as "sex" slaves. That is disgusting!!!

A few of them will be required for sperm production but sex with the creatures
will NOT be necessary. I can see that some re-education will be necessary when
the world reverts to matriarchy.



LOL. You been spengint too much time with feminist fiction, Toots.

No culture anywhere ever was run by women. Run for women, yes, but never
run by women. Life just doesn't work that way.



Everyone lived in a pieceful matriarchal society until the patriarchal hordes invaded
and forced the world under the jackboot of male tyranny. Compensation for this
oppression will have to be paid. The males will be compelled to transfer the
wealth that they stole from our foremothers to us. Psychological compensation
will also be be claimed. Males will bow their heads to women as an acknowledgement
of their past evils.



That feminist dreamland fiction is not "education," Toots.

Go tell it to your sista's. I'm sure they are as stupid as you.



Sista's? So your racist as well as sexist and stupid, you chavinist pig.

A nuisance species, no hunting season, no license required, no bag limits.
http://www.bushmaster.com/shopping/weapons/lr-24v.asp
--
When did we divide into sides?
"As president, I will put American government and our legal system back
on the side of women." John Kerry, misandrist Democratic candidate for
President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/
[Bob does not advocate any illegal, seditious, or immoral acts. All
posts are for discussion, rhetorical, or humorous purposes only.]
.
User: "Dennis M. Hammes"

Title: Re: The Abortion Machine 11 Jul 2004 11:25:56 AM
Bob wrote:


Wilma wrote:

....


Sista's? So your racist as well as sexist and stupid, you chavinist pig.


A nuisance species, no hunting season, no license required, no bag limits.

http://www.bushmaster.com/shopping/weapons/lr-24v.asp

Tourists to r.a.p. are subject to Tourist Season, however if there
are enough of them, or it /sounds/ like there are enough of them,
bag limits are lifted.
Especially when lifting the bags' skirts provides no entertainment
whatever.
--
-------(m+
~/:o)_|
The most essential gift for a good writer is
a built-in, shock-proof, ***** detector. -- Hemingway
http://scrawlmark.org
.


User: "Dennis M. Hammes"

Title: Re: The Abortion Machine 11 Jul 2004 10:58:00 AM
Bob wrote:


Wilma wrote:

Bob penned:


Wilma wrote:

Barbara's Cat penned:



On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 07:04:39 -0600


Wilma wrote:


The human race IS women, males are merely mutants. Like animals that have
got out of control, males have used patriarchy to take over the world and oust
women from our rightful place. We must re-establish the matriarchy that used to
exist.


Definition "rightful place" --> down some rat hole.


What? Oh, Bob, you have it all wrong. Women should be in charge and men
should only be used for reproductive purposes, i.e. sex slaves.



We do NOT need males as "sex" slaves. That is disgusting!!!

A few of them will be required for sperm production but sex with the creatures
will NOT be necessary. I can see that some re-education will be necessary when
the world reverts to matriarchy.



LOL. You been spengint too much time with feminist fiction, Toots.

No culture anywhere ever was run by women. Run for women, yes, but never
run by women. Life just doesn't work that way.



Everyone lived in a pieceful matriarchal society until the patriarchal hordes invaded
and forced the world under the jackboot of male tyranny. Compensation for this
oppression will have to be paid. The males will be compelled to transfer the
wealth that they stole from our foremothers to us. Psychological compensation
will also be be claimed. Males will bow their heads to women as an acknowledgement
of their past evils.


That feminist dreamland fiction is not "education," Toots.

Evidently this ***** can't get her recently-demoted Prince to crawl
back into the frog. Always tough when you can't even spell the
spell right.
In any case, she's embarking on the total self-destruction that's
the /second/ half of Borderline Personality Disorder, but she's
still enough of a Princess to insist on taking everybody else along
to Maintain her Office for her.
(When the Promoted Prince won't crawl back into the frog on
Command, she embarks on total self-demotion to Prove to Everybody
that that damned frog weren't kissed by no /Princess/, so who does
he think /he/ is. We shelter the Kiddies from this ***** by saying
They Lived Happily Ever After, which makes it doubly funny when
/they/ start kissing frogs.)


Go tell it to your sista's. I'm sure they are as stupid as you.

Bob

--

When did we divide into sides?

"As president, I will put American government and our legal system back
on the side of women." John Kerry, misandrist Democratic candidate for
President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/

--
-------(m+
~/:o)_|
The most essential gift for a good writer is
a built-in, shock-proof, ***** detector. -- Hemingway
http://scrawlmark.org
.

User: "Dennis M. Hammes"

Title: Re: The Abortion Machine 11 Jul 2004 10:47:03 AM
Bob wrote:


Wilma wrote:

Barbara's Cat penned:


On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 07:04:39 -0600

Wilma wrote:

The human race IS women, males are merely mutants. Like animals that have
got out of control, males have used patriarchy to take over the world and oust
women from our rightful place. We must re-establish the matriarchy that used to
exist.


Definition "rightful place" --> down some rat hole.


What? Oh, Bob, you have it all wrong. Women should be in charge and men
should only be used for reproductive purposes, i.e. sex slaves.



We do NOT need males as "sex" slaves. That is disgusting!!!

A few of them will be required for sperm production but sex with the creatures
will NOT be necessary. I can see that some re-education will be necessary when
the world reverts to matriarchy.


LOL. You been spengint too much time with feminist fiction, Toots.

Feminists can /write/?
They can toot /what/ to write "or else," yes.
But write? /Themselves/?
PPOR.


No culture anywhere ever was run by women. Run for women, yes, but never
run by women. Life just doesn't work that way.

Bob

And every Kulchur run for women was happily run right into the
ground, because women are never happy unless it's being run for
their Holy Babies, and you know what /they/ want.
Most of the list has already appeared early in this thread.
--
-------(m+
~/:o)_|
The most essential gift for a good writer is
a built-in, shock-proof, ***** detector. -- Hemingway
http://scrawlmark.org
.

User: "Dennis M. Hammes"

Title: Re: The Abortion Machine 11 Jul 2004 10:29:23 AM
Barbara's Cat wrote:


On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 07:04:39 -0600
Bob said:

Wilma wrote:

The human race IS women, males are merely mutants. Like animals that have
got out of control, males have used patriarchy to take over the world and oust
women from our rightful place. We must re-establish the matriarchy that used to
exist.


Definition "rightful place" --> down some rat hole.

Bob


What? Oh, Bob, you have it all wrong. Women should be in charge and men
should only be used for reproductive purposes, i.e. sex slaves.

--
Cm~

The World According to Hippolyta.
Hercules slapped her upside the head /once/, and the whole dam'
tribe married Greek.
"Once you've had Greek, there's no other geek!"
--
-------(m+
~/:o)_|
The most essential gift for a good writer is
a built-in, shock-proof, ***** detector. -- Hemingway
http://scrawlmark.org
.

User: "Bob"

Title: Re: The Abortion Machine 10 Jul 2004 09:02:37 AM
Barbara's Cat wrote:

On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 07:04:39 -0600
Bob said:


Wilma wrote:

The human race IS women, males are merely mutants. Like animals that have
got out of control, males have used patriarchy to take over the world and oust
women from our rightful place. We must re-establish the matriarchy that used to
exist.


Definition "rightful place" --> down some rat hole.


What? Oh, Bob, you have it all wrong. Women should be in charge and men
should only be used for reproductive purposes, i.e. sex slaves.

But that kind of women make such good bait. Its nice to take them
fishing, like Laci Peterson.
Bob
--
When did we divide into sides?
"As president, I will put American government and our legal system back
on the side of women." John Kerry, misandrist Democratic candidate for
President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/
[Bob does not advocate any illegal, seditious, or immoral acts. All
posts are for discussion, rhetorical, or humorous purposes only.]
.
User: "Dennis M. Hammes"

Title: Re: The Abortion Machine 11 Jul 2004 10:40:31 AM
Bob wrote:


Barbara's Cat wrote:

On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 07:04:39 -0600
Bob said:


Wilma wrote:

The human race IS women, males are merely mutants. Like animals that have
got out of control, males have used patriarchy to take over the world and oust
women from our rightful place. We must re-establish the matriarchy that used to
exist.


Definition "rightful place" --> down some rat hole.


What? Oh, Bob, you have it all wrong. Women should be in charge and men
should only be used for reproductive purposes, i.e. sex slaves.


But that kind of women make such good bait. Its nice to take them
fishing, like Laci Peterson.

Bob

Who taught /you/ to fish, your Mommy?
You take a girl fishing -- or not -- /once/, and all you do is
show her how to bait a hook.
From that day forward, you are perfectly free to fish when, where,
as often, and as long as you /feel like/, even in the dead of winter
inside your beer cooler (be sure you call it a "fish house" at
home), and in all cases /totally free/ of the influence of women.
Do not get /too/ used to the absence of women, however; you still
have to go home to replenish the beer.
If they ever wonder where the fish are, tell 'em you were reading
poultry, and a really tough one was taking you all day. As you fall
asleep on her afterward, mutter things like, "Two roads diverged in
a yellow bird."
--
-------(m+
~/:o)_|
The most essential gift for a good writer is
a built-in, shock-proof, ***** detector. -- Hemingway
http://scrawlmark.org
.


User: "Rob Evans"

Title: Re: The Abortion Machine 10 Jul 2004 03:10:58 AM
In message <wfmdnV9I6dkJpHLdRVn-hw@heartoftn.net>, Flower Power
<Freedom@this-time.net> writes




## The life and welfare of the WOMAN should always be chosen over the
unwanted fetus.

The life certainly but not, I think, the welfare which is a much greyer
area. It raises the question of terminating life for an other's
convenience or life-style. The main problem, of course, is deciding when
the foetus becomes a person with the human right to life. Currently,
that seems to based on viability which presents several problems such
as:
people on life support machines may not be viable but you don't "switch
them off" for convenience;
medical techniques are improving to the point where increasingly
premature babies can be helped to a healthy future;
brain activity indicating self-awareness is now believed to be present
before 20 weeks.
All of these combine to pose a moral question about the automatic right
to abortion (particularly late termination) under all circumstances.
Rob
--
Rob Evans
.
User: "Flower Power"

Title: Re: The Abortion Machine 10 Jul 2004 02:31:30 PM
"Rob Evans" <rre@mla001.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:TuwAOpBSS67AFwDE@mla001.demon.co.uk...

In message <wfmdnV9I6dkJpHLdRVn-hw@heartoftn.net>, Flower Power
<Freedom@this-time.net> writes




## The life and welfare of the WOMAN should always be chosen over the
unwanted fetus.


The life certainly but not, I think, the welfare which is a much greyer
area.

$ Her welfare *IS* her life! Her life can be ruined by having an unwanted
child as everyone knows.
It raises the question of terminating life for an other's

convenience or life-style.

$ Why not abort when giving birth can DESTROY her life, maim her forever
and ruin her financially? Why do you call THAT a convenience? Why should
she take that chance to please people like you?
The main problem, of course, is deciding when

the foetus becomes a person with the human right to life. Currently,
that seems to based on viability which presents several problems such
as:

people on life support machines may not be viable but you don't "switch
them off" for convenience;

$ What has CONVENIENCE got to do with abortion or allowing a brain-dead
person to move on?

medical techniques are improving to the point where increasingly
premature babies can be helped to a healthy future;

$ So?

brain activity indicating self-awareness is now believed to be present
before 20 weeks.

$ So?

All of these combine to pose a moral question about the automatic right
to abortion (particularly late termination) under all circumstances.

Rob

$ Whose "moral" questions? Yours? You have no right to try and force "your
morals" on others.
--
FPower.......
But look what your Jehovah god said in his bible:
Psalm 137:9
"Happy shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the
stones." (Infanticide approved by god)
======================================
You still haven't told us how YOU plan to enforce monthly pregnancy
tests on all women and where and how you will confine them for the 9
months.
.
User: "Dennis M. Hammes"

Title: Re: The Abortion Machine 11 Jul 2004 07:13:11 AM
Flower Power wrote:


"Rob Evans" <rre@mla001.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:TuwAOpBSS67AFwDE@mla001.demon.co.uk...

In message <wfmdnV9I6dkJpHLdRVn-hw@heartoftn.net>, Flower Power
<Freedom@this-time.net> writes




## The life and welfare of the WOMAN should always be chosen over the
unwanted fetus.


The life certainly but not, I think, the welfare which is a much greyer
area.


$ Her welfare *IS* her life! Her life can be ruined by having an unwanted
child as everyone knows.

It raises the question of terminating life for an other's

convenience or life-style.


$ Why not abort when giving birth can DESTROY her life, maim her forever
and ruin her financially? Why do you call THAT a convenience? Why should
she take that chance to please people like you?

The main problem, of course, is deciding when

the foetus becomes a person with the human right to life. Currently,
that seems to based on viability which presents several problems such
as:

people on life support machines may not be viable but you don't "switch
them off" for convenience;


$ What has CONVENIENCE got to do with abortion or allowing a brain-dead
person to move on?

We conveniently allow the brain-dead to move on /every day/ around
here, but as you see they insist on going on spending all those
watts to go on posting.


medical techniques are improving to the point where increasingly
premature babies can be helped to a healthy future;


$ So?

You misspelled, "At whose expense, i.e., for whose life?"


brain activity indicating self-awareness is now believed to be present
before 20 weeks.


$ So?

You misspelled, "A grasshopper does it even faster."


All of these combine to pose a moral question about the automatic right
to abortion (particularly late termination) under all circumstances.

Rob


$ Whose "moral" questions? Yours? You have no right to try and force "your
morals" on others.

Are you FUKEN KIDDING?
THE ENTIRE QUESTION OF STATES' RIGHTS is at issue, here.
The entire question of PREEMPTIVE INVASION is at issue, here.
Not to mention DEMOCRACY ITSELF!!!!
What the ***** do you think "Policemen" are /for/?
Groping your daughter at the airport?
PaTHETIC.


--
FPower.......
But look what your Jehovah god said in his bible:
Psalm 137:9
"Happy shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the
stones." (Infanticide approved by god)

And on a froup that demandeth of us a song, too.

======================================
You still haven't told us how YOU plan to enforce monthly pregnancy
tests on all women and where and how you will confine them for the 9
months.

I wasn't gonna confine 'em at all. I was gonna sterilise any with
IQs less than 130, incomes less than $30,000, and vocabularies less
than 30,000 words.
Certain exceptions would be made for Tits and *****, of course.
Which is how we got into this mess in the first place.
Because one man's sweat hog is another man's Queen.
--
-------(m+
~/:o)_|
The most essential gift for a good writer is
a built-in, shock-proof, ***** detector. -- Hemingway
http://scrawlmark.org
.

User: "Rob Evans"

Title: Re: The Abortion Machine 10 Jul 2004 04:38:01 PM
In message <Sv2dnVgMpLnv2W3dRVn-hA@heartoftn.net>, Flower Power
<WomansChoice@thisNG.com> writes


"Rob Evans" <rre@mla001.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:TuwAOpBSS67AFwDE@mla001.demon.co.uk...

In message <wfmdnV9I6dkJpHLdRVn-hw@heartoftn.net>, Flower Power
<Freedom@this-time.net> writes




## The life and welfare of the WOMAN should always be chosen over the
unwanted fetus.


The life certainly but not, I think, the welfare which is a much greyer
area.


$ Her welfare *IS* her life! Her life can be ruined by having an unwanted
child as everyone knows.

No it is not. And even if it were, it's not an argument for murder. A
life MIGHT be ruined by an unwanted baby or it might be interrupted for
9 months followed by adoption. My life MIGHT be ruined by unwanted
venture capitalists but it doesn't give me the right to kill them.


It raises the question of terminating life for an other's

convenience or life-style.


$ Why not abort when giving birth can DESTROY her life, maim her forever
and ruin her financially?

might be an inconvenience for 9 months - get a grip.

Why do you call THAT a convenience?

No, I call it a ridiculous over-dramatisation.

Why should
she take that chance to please people like you?

For the same reason that I can't shoot you for being irritating - we
elect people who make laws which roughly comply with an accepted code of
morality. You never get 100% consensus but we generally go with the
majority.


The main problem, of course, is deciding when

the foetus becomes a person with the human right to life. Currently,
that seems to based on viability which presents several problems such
as:

people on life support machines may not be viable but you don't "switch
them off" for convenience;


$ What has CONVENIENCE got to do with abortion or allowing a brain-dead
person to move on?

Nothing - that's the point. Nobody's suggesting (I hope) that a bwoman
has to have a baby regardless of risk but I am suggesting that you might
think twice about termination just because it's going to screw your
social calendar for a year.


medical techniques are improving to the point where increasingly
premature babies can be helped to a healthy future;


$ So?

So viability is one of the factors in current abortion law - do you know
ANYTHING about this?


brain activity indicating self-awareness is now believed to be present
before 20 weeks.


$ So?

Clue - if it thinks, it's a person. If it's a person, it's murder.


All of these combine to pose a moral question about the automatic right
to abortion (particularly late termination) under all circumstances.

Rob


$ Whose "moral" questions? Yours? You have no right to try and force "your
morals" on others.

Not mine - ours. It's everybody's moral question. As for forcing - have
you checked your front door? Anybody kicked it down? Of course not.
This is a discussion of morality in an open forum. Is this a problem
for you - do you believe in early termination of reason also?
Rob


--
Rob Evans
.
User: "Flower Power"

Title: Re: The Abortion Machine 10 Jul 2004 10:03:53 PM
"Rob Evans" <rre@mla001.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:AjNUd2F5GG8AFw4m@mla001.demon.co.uk...

In message <Sv2dnVgMpLnv2W3dRVn-hA@heartoftn.net>, Flower Power
<WomansChoice@thisNG.com> writes


"Rob Evans" <rre@mla001.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:TuwAOpBSS67AFwDE@mla001.demon.co.uk...

In message <wfmdnV9I6dkJpHLdRVn-hw@heartoftn.net>, Flower Power
<Freedom@this-time.net> writes




## The life and welfare of the WOMAN should always be chosen over the
unwanted fetus.


The life certainly but not, I think, the welfare which is a much greyer
area.


$ Her welfare *IS* her life! Her life can be ruined by having an

unwanted

child as everyone knows.

===============================

No it is not.

* Yes it is. Where do you live? On Mars?
And even if it were, it's not an argument for murder.
* WHAT MURDER? Abortion is legal and saves the lives of millions of women.
A

life MIGHT be ruined by an unwanted baby or it might be interrupted for
9 months followed by adoption.

* And there might be complications, she may die, the infant may have
complications, she may be maimed for life, she may end up financially
destroyed - and what adoption? Unless the infant is a healthy white male it
stands little chance of being adopted.
<snip the same old anti-women/anti-choice BS/>
FP.......
.
User: "Dennis M. Hammes"

Title: Re: The Abortion Machine 11 Jul 2004 08:36:14 AM
Flower Power wrote:


"Rob Evans" <rre@mla001.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:AjNUd2F5GG8AFw4m@mla001.demon.co.uk...

In message <Sv2dnVgMpLnv2W3dRVn-hA@heartoftn.net>, Flower Power
<WomansChoice@thisNG.com> writes


"Rob Evans" <rre@mla001.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:TuwAOpBSS67AFwDE@mla001.demon.co.uk...

In message <wfmdnV9I6dkJpHLdRVn-hw@heartoftn.net>, Flower Power
<Freedom@this-time.net> writes




## The life and welfare of the WOMAN should always be chosen over the
unwanted fetus.


The life certainly but not, I think, the welfare which is a much greyer
area.


$ Her welfare *IS* her life! Her life can be ruined by having an

unwanted

child as everyone knows.

===============================

No it is not.


* Yes it is. Where do you live? On Mars?

And even if it were, it's not an argument for murder.

* WHAT MURDER? Abortion is legal and saves the lives of millions of women.

A

life MIGHT be ruined by an unwanted baby or it might be interrupted for
9 months followed by adoption.


* And there might be complications, she may die, the infant may have
complications, she may be maimed for life, she may end up financially
destroyed - and what adoption? Unless the infant is a healthy white male it
stands little chance of being adopted.
<snip the same old anti-women/anti-choice BS/>

FP.......

I'll leave the same old Juvenile Princess BS, as well as the fact
that Princess can /not/ simply put that a person's life is /his own/
because Princess needs so much of it when /she/ needs it.
What you gotta understand, Princess, is that when you gibber "to
each according to his Need," your own dam' Baby out/Needs/ anything
else on the planet, so that /it/, and not you, gotta Right to any
***** thing it doesn't happen to have at the moment.
"From each according to his Ability, to each according to his Need"?
Remind you both that you /both/ have the Ability to be a target.
And that I Need target practice.
Oh?
You're not gonna /Wike/ me?
You already don't, and I hadn't said a dam' thing about it until
you xposters started puling on the subject.
But I'm a poet, which means I can write a recipe for Dead Princess
just as easily as one for Dead Baby.
Save that I'm /personally/ far more inclined to write one for Dead
Priest.
And since nobody here is payin' me, I'll follow my /personal/
inclinations.
Which have been slightly pre-empted; I'm a christ (17677997), so
that when some yotz threatens my community with Unfriendly Foreign
Powers (in the Sky or horizontally), well, the Oath is for life...
Of course, /I/ notice that I'm being "threatened" by Pauline
bible-wavers, which is funny as hell, because Paul is the /only/ one
who ever called this unfriendly foreign Jesus a "christ," and Paul,
a Greek (Tarsus, Anatolia), did his service for /Rome/ the instant
Rome threatened Greece.
Why the Pauline "Christers" insist I'm to do my service for
"Christ" the instant they threaten my community with "Christ."
It's in the Book, kiddies: your unfriendly foreign Jesus /was
never a christ/.
Been a matter of the public record for 39 years that I am.
And if you wanna "abolish" my honors so that you can reassign 'em
to some gobby, gobby, gook, gook-in-the-Sky, you /really/ otta have
your paws on weapons that /work/.
And your monkey-screech and monkey-pissing simply doesn't fall
into that category.
You /can/ wait until I'm old and crippled, of course, like you did
with Socrates (who was as old as Methuselah, literally), but you
/still/ can't afford your heating billZ.
Unless maybe you burn down the town, again...
Eh?
But you're assuring each other of your Rights to burn down
/somebody else's house/ to heat your Baby.
Which is fine.
Just make sure you've got your borders and your treaties where
everybody knows where they are, hm?
That way, we can return fire without hitting each other, nome
sane?
--
-------(m+
~/:o)_|
The most essential gift for a good writer is
a built-in, shock-proof, ***** detector. -- Hemingway
http://scrawlmark.org
.

User: "Rob Evans"

Title: Re: The Abortion Machine 11 Jul 2004 06:03:39 AM
In message <z7udnTiCSIKAM23dRVn-tw@heartoftn.net>, Flower Power
<WomansChoice@thisNG.com> writes


"Rob Evans" <rre@mla001.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:AjNUd2F5GG8AFw4m@mla001.demon.co.uk...

In message <Sv2dnVgMpLnv2W3dRVn-hA@heartoftn.net>, Flower Power
<WomansChoice@thisNG.com> writes


"Rob Evans" <rre@mla001.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:TuwAOpBSS67AFwDE@mla001.demon.co.uk...

In message <wfmdnV9I6dkJpHLdRVn-hw@heartoftn.net>, Flower Power
<Freedom@this-time.net> writes




## The life and welfare of the WOMAN should always be chosen over the
unwanted fetus.


The life certainly but not, I think, the welfare which is a much greyer
area.


$ Her welfare *IS* her life! Her life can be ruined by having an

unwanted

child as everyone knows.

===============================

No it is not.


* Yes it is. Where do you live? On Mars?

Yeah, yeah - and you come from Venus (yawn). No, for the purpose of this
discussion I mostly live on RAP where words mean what they mean and not
what you WANT them to mean.


And even if it were, it's not an argument for murder.

* WHAT MURDER? Abortion is legal and saves the lives of millions of women.

It is legal under certain circumstances and it should be. It eases the
lives of millions of women and (under certain circumstances) saves the
lives of some. Or are you suggesting that millions of women die in
childbirth? I don't claim to know so I am interested.


A

life MIGHT be ruined by an unwanted baby or it might be interrupted for
9 months followed by adoption.


* And there might be complications, she may die, the infant may have
complications, she may be maimed for life, she may end up financially
destroyed - and what adoption? Unless the infant is a healthy white male it
stands little chance of being adopted.

Yep - and if I walk through certain parts of certain towns I might be
murdered. The law still doesn't allow me to preemptively shoot
suspicious looking persons.
Let me make a few things clear:
I believe that certain abortions should be legal. I do not believe in
abortion on demand under all circumstances. I am pro-choice. In fact,
I think this is an issue on which only women should be allowed to vote.
However, the fact that I shouldn't have a vote does not mean that I
shouldn't have an opinion on what is a moral issue. You should be free
to choose but you are not free to claim that there should be no debate.
Rob
--
Rob Evans
.


User: "Dennis M. Hammes"

Title: Re: The Abortion Machine 11 Jul 2004 08:06:02 AM
Rob Evans wrote:


In message <Sv2dnVgMpLnv2W3dRVn-hA@heartoftn.net>, Flower Power
<WomansChoice@thisNG.com> writes


"Rob Evans" <rre@mla001.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:TuwAOpBSS67AFwDE@mla001.demon.co.uk...

In message <wfmdnV9I6dkJpHLdRVn-hw@heartoftn.net>, Flower Power
<Freedom@this-time.net> writes




## The life and welfare of the WOMAN should always be chosen over the
unwanted fetus.


The life certainly but not, I think, the welfare which is a much greyer
area.


$ Her welfare *IS* her life! Her life can be ruined by having an unwanted
child as everyone knows.


No it is not. And even if it were, it's not an argument for murder. A
life MIGHT be ruined by an unwanted baby or it might be interrupted for
9 months followed by adoption. My life MIGHT be ruined by unwanted
venture capitalists but it doesn't give me the right to kill them.

How about unwanted Princesses?
Unwanted "lawyers"?
Unwanted "policemen"?
Rob, you're usually better than this.
But wanting to die to steal nine months is no dam' different from
wanting to die to steal nine cents.


It raises the question of terminating life for an other's

convenience or life-style.


$ Why not abort when giving birth can DESTROY her life, maim her forever
and ruin her financially?


might be an inconvenience for 9 months - get a grip.

Rob, /nobody/ has the "Right" to inconvenience me for nine months.
Or nine minutes.
Or would you rather I inconvenience the sonofabitch for nine
yards?
(For those who arrived late, that's the nine yards of a
machine-gun belt, but I will not pay for the whole nine yards; I'm
cheap. I'll inconvenience the ***** to the tune of a lousy 176
grains of trade metals. "Inconvenience"? Hell, that's a
/contribution to his welfare/. And he'll be /infinitely/ happier
with JeeZuss, anyway, remember?)


Why do you call THAT a convenience?


No, I call it a ridiculous over-dramatisation.

Any morality play that takes nine months to watch is a ridiculous
over-dramatisation.
Wagner already proved that if you can't do it in nine hours, you
can't do it.


Why should
she take that chance to please people like you?


For the same reason that I can't shoot you for being irritating - we
elect people who make laws which roughly comply with an accepted code of
morality. You never get 100% consensus but we generally go with the
majority.

What you mean "we," Paleface?
And "accepted" by whom?
Now you're just an illiterate liar, since this "we" by your own
admission /isn't/, and is by your own admission /not/ "accepted"
else nobody would have to order it /in any case/.
And what's this "elect," Paleface?
You're so fuken Holy you can anoint your unders over?
Or you're so fuken Holy you can add zeros in a Mystical manner to
produce a sum so Holy it's Divinely binding on its betters?
Or your Mommy is?
Or her priest is?



The main problem, of course, is deciding when

the foetus becomes a person with the human right to life. Currently,
that seems to based on viability which presents several problems such
as:

people on life support machines may not be viable but you don't "switch
them off" for convenience;


$ What has CONVENIENCE got to do with abortion or allowing a brain-dead
person to move on?


Nothing - that's the point. Nobody's suggesting (I hope) that a bwoman
has to have a baby regardless of risk but I am suggesting that you might
think twice about termination just because it's going to screw your
social calendar for a year.


medical techniques are improving to the point where increasingly
premature babies can be helped to a healthy future;


$ So?


So viability is one of the factors in current abortion law - do you know
ANYTHING about this?


brain activity indicating self-awareness is now believed to be present
before 20 weeks.


$ So?


Clue - if it thinks, it's a person. If it's a person, it's murder.

I, Robot? Or I, chuckles?


All of these combine to pose a moral question about the automatic right
to abortion (particularly late termination) under all circumstances.

Rob


$ Whose "moral" questions? Yours? You have no right to try and force "your
morals" on others.


Not mine - ours. It's everybody's moral question.

Oh. /You/ assigned /me/ the moral question?
And it's a "question" for /me/ because /you/ can repudiate the
answer, Protestant?
You want jihad, it's what I'm here for.
"All enemies, foreign and domestic."

As for forcing - have
you checked your front door? Anybody kicked it down? Of course not.

You're fucken right, Protestant; you came in through the TV (my Town
Crier) and the computer screen (where abortion is a legitimate
subject for poultry but telling me what I have your permission to
think, isn't).

This is a discussion of morality in an open forum. Is this a problem
for you - do you believe in early termination of reason also?

Morality?
You have none; you can't survive your own premises.
Morality is personal stuff, kid. It's founded in /aesthetics/.
Why an "aristocrat" is somebody who "survives his own taste."
And ethics is handled with an "equals" sign.
Why the other sorry, sad, sonofabitch doesn't survive /his/.


Rob



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User: "Rob Evans"

Title: Re: The Abortion Machine 11 Jul 2004 10:01:26 AM
In message <40F13CDA.82314D40@arvig.net>, Dennis M. Hammes
<scrawlmark@arvig.net> writes


Rob, /nobody/ has the "Right" to inconvenience me for nine months.
Or nine minutes.

Wrong. The guvmint has the elected right (regardless of how ya voted)
to do just that. Others - maybe not. The question is what is an
appropriate response to being inconvenienced. That, to me anyway, is
what this discussion is all about.


Why do you call THAT a convenience?


No, I call it a ridiculous over-dramatisation.


Any morality play that takes nine months to watch is a ridiculous
over-dramatisation.
Wagner already proved that if you can't do it in nine hours, you
can't do it.


Why should
she take that chance to please people like you?


For the same reason that I can't shoot you for being irritating - we
elect people who make laws which roughly comply with an accepted code of
morality. You never get 100% consensus but we generally go with the
majority.


What you mean "we," Paleface?
And "accepted" by whom?
Now you're just an illiterate liar, since this "we" by your own
admission /isn't/, and is by your own admission /not/ "accepted"
else nobody would have to order it /in any case/.
And what's this "elect," Paleface?
You're so fuken Holy you can anoint your unders over?
Or you're so fuken Holy you can add zeros in a Mystical manner to
produce a sum so Holy it's Divinely binding on its betters?
Or your Mommy is?
Or her priest is?

I'd get back to you on this if I had the faintest idea of what you are
talking about or arguing against.



The main problem, of course, is deciding when

the foetus becomes a person with the human right to life. Currently,
that seems to based on viability which presents several problems such
as:

people on life support machines may not be viable but you don't "switch
them off" for convenience;


$ What has CONVENIENCE got to do with abortion or allowing a brain-dead
person to move on?


Nothing - that's the point. Nobody's suggesting (I hope) that a bwoman
has to have a baby regardless of risk but I am suggesting that you might
think twice about termination just because it's going to screw your
social calendar for a year.


medical techniques are improving to the point where increasingly
premature babies can be helped to a healthy future;


$ So?


So viability is one of the factors in current abortion law - do you know
ANYTHING about this?


brain activity indicating self-awareness is now believed to be present
before 20 weeks.


$ So?


Clue - if it thinks, it's a person. If it's a person, it's murder.


I, Robot? Or I, chuckles?

Sneaky - picking the one suitable subject for abortion under any
circumstances and any age.


All of these combine to pose a moral question about the automatic right
to abortion (particularly late termination) under all circumstances.

Rob


$ Whose "moral" questions? Yours? You have no right to try and force "your
morals" on others.


Not mine - ours. It's everybody's moral question.


Oh. /You/ assigned /me/ the moral question?
And it's a "question" for /me/ because /you/ can repudiate the
answer, Protestant?
You want jihad, it's what I'm here for.
"All enemies, foreign and domestic."

As for forcing - have
you checked your front door? Anybody kicked it down? Of course not.


You're fucken right, Protestant; you came in through the TV (my Town
Crier) and the computer screen (where abortion is a legitimate
subject for poultry but telling me what I have your permission to
think, isn't).

This is a discussion of morality in an open forum. Is this a problem
for you - do you believe in early termination of reason also?


Morality?
You have none; you can't survive your own premises.
Morality is personal stuff, kid. It's founded in /aesthetics/.
Why an "aristocrat" is somebody who "survives his own taste."
And ethics is handled with an "equals" sign.
Why the other sorry, sad, sonofabitch doesn't survive /his/.


If you mean there is no universal moral code, then I agree with you. If
you think that that is reason enough not to bother with the evolution of
moral codes then you're just another dumb redneck.
Rob
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