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10 Jan 2006 09:50:05 AM |
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THE BIG LIE OF A MASSACRE AT DEIR YASSIN |
THE BIG LIE OF A MASSACRE AT DEIR YASSIN
By David Bedein, MSW
New facts behind Deir Yassin: The witness who was not there.
[April 9, 1998] During the 1948 Arab-Israeli war, an estimated 600,000
Arabs fled the new Jewish state of Israel. They and their descendants
are still refugees. No Arab country will have them. They still languish
in refugee camps. Meanwhile, thousands of Palestinian Arabs continue to
mutter "Deir Yassin" when they are asked to describe the tragedy that
has befallen their people.
On April 9, 1998, the DEIR YASSIN MEMORIAL COMMITTEE organized vigils
throughout the world on the day that marks 50 years to the day when Arab
civilians were killed in the Jerusalem Arab neighborhood that is known
as Deir Yassin.
Until recently, the commonly held assumption amongst Jews and Arabs
alike was that Jewish underground fighters had rounded up Deir Yassin's
Arab civilians after the battle for control of the village and that they
shot them in a ditch. To deny that a massacre ever took place at Deir
Yassin would be like an American forgetting the Maine or forgiving the
Alamo.
Yet what has now emerged is that the one eyewitness who gave credibility
to the account of a massacre, the Haganah intelligene officer, Meir
Pe'il, submitted an entirely different report back in 1948 that has only
recently been discovered and authenticated in the archives of the Israel
Defense Forces.
In that report, Pe'il writes that he arrived at Deir Yassin at 4PM on
the day of the event, many hours AFTER the battle that had raged at
dawn. In his report, Pe'il described the dead strewn in the village, the
bodies in the houses which had been used as defensive outposts by Arab
gunmen, and no mention of any massacre. Pe'il's massacre story began
only the next day, after an Irgun fighter on the scene called together
foreign correspondents and greatly exaggerated the amount of civilian
casualties - to 254, instead of the estimated 100, to frighten the Arabs
everywhere, as the fighter put it.
Pe'il picked up on this figure and simply added his own footnote days
later, adding that the Arab civilans who survived the battle were
machine-gunned to death by the dissident Jewish groups, known as the
Stern and the Irgun organizations. Pe'il, who was then in charge of a
division of Haganah counterintelligence that engaged in a power struggle
with the Stern and Irgun units, effectively spread the rumor that the
Stern and Irgun groups had indeed massacred the remaining civilians from
Deir Yassin.
Pe'il's word was taken as the gospel in almost all Zionist and Arab
accounts of the 1948 war... Pe'il, who later rose to the rank of colonel
in the Israel Defence Forces, went on to become a military historian and
founder of a member of a small left wing faction in Israel's Knesset,
would not comment on recent revelations which demonstrate that he was
not an eyewitness to an event at Deir Yassin.
Yet as recently as December 1996, Pe'il addressed the Deir Yassin
Memorial committee and described in graphic detail how he had seen the
Jewish troops from Stern and Irgun drag out the Arab civilians from Deir
Yassin to be executed...
Yet in the early days of the Palestinian Arab uprising in 1987 and 1988,
the new communications wing of the PLO decided not to emphasize the
issue of Deir Yassin. As one prominent PLO media expert put it then, the
Deir Yassin account was too loaded with problems and not clear enough.
That is why the PLO, at the height of the Intifada in the Spring of
1988, decided not to organize any ceremony to mark forty years to Deir
Yassin. One Palestinian professor Beir Zeit University near Ramallah,
said at the time that there was no proof of the amount of casualties and
no real witnesses that he could find to the massacre. And as recently as
January, 1998, Beir Zeit University issued a definitive report in which
it published the names of the civilians who died at Deir Yassin,
demonstrating that there were about than 100 civilians who died there,
not 254.
And in the BBC television series, "Israel and the Arabs: the 50-Year
Conflict," scheduled to air next month, an editor of the Palestine
Broadcasting Service's Arabic news in 1948 claims that he was instructed
by Hussein Khalidi, the secretary of the Arab High Command, to
exaggerate abuses at Deir Yassin and to claim that children were
wantonly executed and that pregnant women were raped.
Another reason why the PLO did not push the issue of Deir Yassin was
because a prominent elder statesman of the Israel Labor Party, the
eloquent former Foreign Minister Abba Eban, who openly expressed
sympathy for the aspirations of Palestinian Arabs for a state of their
own, was quick to point out to his Palestinian colleagues that when he
was indeed the foreign minister back in 1969 that his office had
published a study that challenged the veracity of any massacre at Deir
Yassin,
Meanwhile, both Morton Klein of the Zionist Organization of America and
Daniel McGowan head of the"Deir Yassin Remembered" committee, both of
which are based in New York, each point out, each from their own point
of view, that more than one hundred and sixty books that describe
Zionist history had given credence to the account first reported by Meir
Pe'il that Jews had simply murdered Arab civilians, following the battle.
Yet none of these histories of 1948 mention primary sources - Only a
commonly accepted assumption that a massacre at Deir Yassin had took
place. A massacre did take indeed take place, following the events in
Deir Yassin, which had occurred on Friday morning April 9, 1948. On
Monday morning, April 13, 1948, an Arab mob, chanting "Deir Yassin",
massacred a bus convoy of Jewish doctors and nurses who were headed to
Hadassah hospital on Mount Scopus in Jerusalem. 78 of Hadassah's medical
personnel were murdered. Only recently was it revealed that some of the
Hadassah nurses had found refuge in the nearby compound of the British
consul, only to be turned over to Arabs who proceeded to slaughter them
in revenge for what they thought had occurred at Deir Yassin.
Both sides used the symbol of "Remember Deir Yassin" in 1948. There were
Jews who intimidated Arabs with the slogan and their were Arab
commanders who rallied their populace with the same adage. Meanwhile,
what has fanned the flames of Deir Yassin has been the United Nations
decision to confine more than three million Palestinian Arabs to refugee
camps, under the premise and promise of the "right of return" to Arab
villages that no longer exist.
UN Resolution #194 on the subject of Arab refugees, reaffirmed each
year, does not allow for any possibility of compensation for Arab
refugees, only for the right of return. As the principal of one of the
UNRWA Arab refugee camps declared in March 1998 on a news program of the
Palestine Authority's Palestine Broadcasting Corporation, "Deir Yassin
and the right of return are on the lips of every Palestinian Arab
schoolchild to this day".
The massacre at Deir Yassin may not have happened. Yet its legacy lives
on. - As a media research analyst and bureau chief of a Jerusalem-based
news agency, I am pleased to offer you the opportunity to peruse this
timely essay concerning a Middle East subject that became an American
issue this year.
http://www.freeman.org/m_online/may98/bedein.htm
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10 Jan 2006 12:30:44 PM |
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Mimi Cohen <mimiNOSPAMgal@cox.net> wrote:
THE BIG LIE OF A MASSACRE AT DEIR YASSIN
By David Bedein, MSW
There are still people who deny the holocaust, as well.
And who is the writer? "David Bedein is the bureau chief of the
Israel Resource News Agency, located at the Beit Agron International
Press Center in Jerusalem."
This comes from the very same Mimi Cohen who claims that the BBC is
anti-semite and liars when they report stories critical of Israel.
New facts behind Deir Yassin: The witness who was not there.
[April 9, 1998] During the 1948 Arab-Israeli war, an estimated 600,000
Arabs fled the new Jewish state of Israel.
Driven out by terrorists. People like Manachem Begin.
They and their descendants
are still refugees. No Arab country will have them.
And Israel doesn't allow them to return to their homes.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Mimi Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: THE BIG LIE OF A MASSACRE AT DEIR YASSIN |
10 Jan 2006 01:45:05 PM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
Mimi Cohen <mimiNOSPAMgal@cox.net> wrote:
THE BIG LIE OF A MASSACRE AT DEIR YASSIN
By David Bedein, MSW
There are still people who deny the holocaust, as well.
And who is the writer? "David Bedein is the bureau chief of the
Israel Resource News Agency, located at the Beit Agron International
Press Center in Jerusalem."
This comes from the very same Mimi Cohen who claims that the BBC is
anti-semite and liars when they report stories critical of Israel.
New facts behind Deir Yassin: The witness who was not there.
[April 9, 1998] During the 1948 Arab-Israeli war, an estimated 600,000
Arabs fled the new Jewish state of Israel.
Driven out by terrorists. People like Manachem Begin.
They and their descendants
are still refugees. No Arab country will have them.
And Israel doesn't allow them to return to their homes.
Ray, typically dishonestly ignores the *FACT* that so called
"palestinian" refugee camps are *NOT* in Israel, in fact, they are in
Syria, Jordan and Lebanon, much as bigots like Ray would like to deny
it, it is the *ARABS* who hold so called "palestinians" prisoner. Funny
how none of the terrorist coddling pigs ever question *WHY* Arabs don't
allow "palestinians" to "go back home". The reason, of course, is that
Israel isn't and never was their home. These "palestinians" are former
residents of Lebanon, Syria and Jordan. All of these countries including
Israel were once part of the lands lost by the Ottoman Turk Empire and
ruled by Britain and France until the end of WWII. /under the Ottoman
Turks they were all collectively known as "Syria". A fact well known by
anyone who knows anything about the history of the Middle East.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: THE BIG LIE OF A MASSACRE AT DEIR YASSIN |
10 Jan 2006 02:02:11 PM |
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Mimi Cohen <mimiNOSPAMgal@cox.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Mimi Cohen <mimiNOSPAMgal@cox.net> wrote:
THE BIG LIE OF A MASSACRE AT DEIR YASSIN
By David Bedein, MSW
There are still people who deny the holocaust, as well.
And who is the writer? "David Bedein is the bureau chief of the
Israel Resource News Agency, located at the Beit Agron International
Press Center in Jerusalem."
This comes from the very same Mimi Cohen who claims that the BBC is
anti-semite and liars when they report stories critical of Israel.
New facts behind Deir Yassin: The witness who was not there.
[April 9, 1998] During the 1948 Arab-Israeli war, an estimated 600,000
Arabs fled the new Jewish state of Israel.
Driven out by terrorists. People like Manachem Begin.
They and their descendants
are still refugees. No Arab country will have them.
And Israel doesn't allow them to return to their homes.
Ray, typically dishonestly ignores the *FACT* that so called
"palestinian" refugee camps are *NOT* in Israel,
Non sequitur. Israel still refuses to allow those people to return to
their homes. And we note that refugee camps are not part of Israel
in part because Israel refuses to annex Gaza or the West Bank.
in fact, they are in
Syria, Jordan and Lebanon, much as bigots like Ray would like to deny
Anybody who criticizes Israel is a bigot and an anti-semite and a
terrorist, according to mimi.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Mimi Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: THE BIG LIE OF A MASSACRE AT DEIR YASSIN |
10 Jan 2006 06:45:09 PM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
Mimi Cohen <mimiNOSPAMgal@cox.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Mimi Cohen <mimiNOSPAMgal@cox.net> wrote:
THE BIG LIE OF A MASSACRE AT DEIR YASSIN
By David Bedein, MSW
There are still people who deny the holocaust, as well.
And who is the writer? "David Bedein is the bureau chief of the
Israel Resource News Agency, located at the Beit Agron International
Press Center in Jerusalem."
This comes from the very same Mimi Cohen who claims that the BBC is
anti-semite and liars when they report stories critical of Israel.
New facts behind Deir Yassin: The witness who was not there.
[April 9, 1998] During the 1948 Arab-Israeli war, an estimated 600,000
Arabs fled the new Jewish state of Israel.
Driven out by terrorists. People like Manachem Begin.
*YET* another lie by Ray Fisher, terrorist lover.
"Since 1948 it is we who demanded the return of the refugees... while it
is we who made them leave.... We brought disaster upon ... Arab
refugees, by inviting them and bringing pressure to bear upon them to
leave.... We have rendered them dispossessed.... We have accustomed them
to begging.... We have participated in lowering their moral and social
level.... Then we exploited them in executing crimes of murder, arson,
and throwing bombs upon ... men, women and children--all this in the
service of political purposes...."
- Khaled Al-Azm, Syria's Prime Minister after the 1948 war
They and their descendants
are still refugees. No Arab country will have them.
And Israel doesn't allow them to return to their homes.
Ray, typically dishonestly ignores the *FACT* that so called
"palestinian" refugee camps are *NOT* in Israel,
Non sequitur. Israel still refuses to allow those people to return to
their homes. And we note that refugee camps are not part of Israel
in part because Israel refuses to annex Gaza or the West Bank.
Another lie, Israel has no say so over foreigners in foreign countries.
Arab refugees in Arabic camps are not in the jurisdiction of Israel.
in fact, they are in
Syria, Jordan and Lebanon, much as bigots like Ray would like to deny
Anybody who criticizes Israel is a bigot and an anti-semite and a
terrorist, according to mimi.
Ray Fisher is a known terrorist supporter and Islamic fanatic, anything
he says about *ANY* Jew anywhere is suspect and propaganda.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: THE BIG LIE OF A MASSACRE AT DEIR YASSIN |
10 Jan 2006 07:48:56 PM |
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Mimi Cohen <mimiNOSPAMgal@cox.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Mimi Cohen <mimiNOSPAMgal@cox.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Mimi Cohen <mimiNOSPAMgal@cox.net> wrote:
THE BIG LIE OF A MASSACRE AT DEIR YASSIN
By David Bedein, MSW
There are still people who deny the holocaust, as well.
And who is the writer? "David Bedein is the bureau chief of the
Israel Resource News Agency, located at the Beit Agron International
Press Center in Jerusalem."
This comes from the very same Mimi Cohen who claims that the BBC is
anti-semite and liars when they report stories critical of Israel.
New facts behind Deir Yassin: The witness who was not there.
[April 9, 1998] During the 1948 Arab-Israeli war, an estimated 600,000
Arabs fled the new Jewish state of Israel.
Driven out by terrorists. People like Manachem Begin.
*YET* another lie by Ray Fisher, terrorist lover.
More screeching lunacy.
"Since 1948 it is we who demanded the return of the refugees... while it
is we who made them leave.... We brought disaster upon ... Arab
[...]
- Khaled Al-Azm, Syria's Prime Minister after the 1948 war
Mimi quoting biased terrorist sympathizers?!? It's obvious nonsense.
Syria didn't suck in the refugees. Israel drove them out.
They and their descendants
are still refugees. No Arab country will have them.
And Israel doesn't allow them to return to their homes.
Ray, typically dishonestly ignores the *FACT* that so called
"palestinian" refugee camps are *NOT* in Israel,
Non sequitur. Israel still refuses to allow those people to return to
their homes. And we note that refugee camps are not part of Israel
in part because Israel refuses to annex Gaza or the West Bank.
Another lie, Israel has no say so over foreigners in foreign countries.
Non sequitur. Israel controls the occupied territories and has
repeatedly refused entry to the refugees.
in fact, they are in
Syria, Jordan and Lebanon, much as bigots like Ray would like to deny
Anybody who criticizes Israel is a bigot and an anti-semite and a
terrorist, according to mimi.
Ray Fisher is a known terrorist supporter and Islamic fanatic, anything
Q.E.D.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Mimi Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: THE BIG LIE OF A MASSACRE AT DEIR YASSIN |
10 Jan 2006 08:12:37 PM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
Mimi Cohen <mimiNOSPAMgal@cox.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Mimi Cohen <mimiNOSPAMgal@cox.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Mimi Cohen <mimiNOSPAMgal@cox.net> wrote:
THE BIG LIE OF A MASSACRE AT DEIR YASSIN
By David Bedein, MSW
There are still people who deny the holocaust, as well.
And who is the writer? "David Bedein is the bureau chief of the
Israel Resource News Agency, located at the Beit Agron International
Press Center in Jerusalem."
This comes from the very same Mimi Cohen who claims that the BBC is
anti-semite and liars when they report stories critical of Israel.
New facts behind Deir Yassin: The witness who was not there.
[April 9, 1998] During the 1948 Arab-Israeli war, an estimated 600,000
Arabs fled the new Jewish state of Israel.
Driven out by terrorists. People like Manachem Begin.
*YET* another lie by Ray Fisher, terrorist lover.
More screeching lunacy.
"Since 1948 it is we who demanded the return of the refugees... while it
is we who made them leave.... We brought disaster upon ... Arab
[...]
- Khaled Al-Azm, Syria's Prime Minister after the 1948 war
Mimi quoting biased terrorist sympathizers?!? It's obvious nonsense.
Syria didn't suck in the refugees. Israel drove them out.
Ray Fisher, known terrorist supporter *CAN'T* stop lying about any and
every thing about Israel. Arabs *ADMIT* they tricked so called
"palestinians" to leave Israel and that's Israel's fault. Ray Fisher
shows definite signs of psychopathy towards a people who are just trying
to live their lives.
They and their descendants
are still refugees. No Arab country will have them.
And Israel doesn't allow them to return to their homes.
Ray, typically dishonestly ignores the *FACT* that so called
"palestinian" refugee camps are *NOT* in Israel,
Non sequitur. Israel still refuses to allow those people to return to
their homes. And we note that refugee camps are not part of Israel
in part because Israel refuses to annex Gaza or the West Bank.
Another lie, Israel has no say so over foreigners in foreign countries.
Non sequitur. Israel controls the occupied territories and has
repeatedly refused entry to the refugees.
A) There are no "occupied territories" that is a "palestinian" lie.
B) Israel can not tell Syria to release her prisoners. Israel cannot
tell Lebanon to release her prisoners. Israel cannot tell Jordan to
release her prisoners. The United States of America cannot tell China to
release her prisoners. France cannot tell Britain to release her
prisoners. Known terrorist sympathizer Ray Fisher is delusional about
what kind of power one country has to force other countries to go
against their own will.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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10 Jan 2006 08:50:26 PM |
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Mimi Cohen <mimiNOSPAMgal@cox.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
- Khaled Al-Azm, Syria's Prime Minister after the 1948 war
Mimi quoting biased terrorist sympathizers?!? It's obvious nonsense.
Syria didn't suck in the refugees. Israel drove them out.
Ray Fisher, known terrorist supporter *CAN'T* stop lying about any and
Anybody who dares to criticize Israel is an anti-semite, a terrorist,
and a liar according to mimi.
Non sequitur. Israel still refuses to allow those people to return to
their homes. And we note that refugee camps are not part of Israel
in part because Israel refuses to annex Gaza or the West Bank.
Another lie, Israel has no say so over foreigners in foreign countries.
Non sequitur. Israel controls the occupied territories and has
repeatedly refused entry to the refugees.
A) There are no "occupied territories" that is a "palestinian" lie.
West Bank. Occupied by Israel but not part of Israel.
Looks like mimi is caught in another lie.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Mimi Cohen" |
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11 Jan 2006 07:24:33 AM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
Mimi Cohen <mimiNOSPAMgal@cox.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
- Khaled Al-Azm, Syria's Prime Minister after the 1948 war
Mimi quoting biased terrorist sympathizers?!? It's obvious nonsense.
Syria didn't suck in the refugees. Israel drove them out.
Ray Fisher, known terrorist supporter *CAN'T* stop lying about any and
Anybody who dares to criticize Israel is an anti-semite, a terrorist,
and a liar according to mimi.
Ray Fisher, know terrorist sympathizer *CAN'T* stop lying about Israel
and me.
Non sequitur. Israel still refuses to allow those people to return to
their homes. And we note that refugee camps are not part of Israel
in part because Israel refuses to annex Gaza or the West Bank.
Another lie, Israel has no say so over foreigners in foreign countries.
Non sequitur. Israel controls the occupied territories and has
repeatedly refused entry to the refugees.
A) There are no "occupied territories" that is a "palestinian" lie.
West Bank. Occupied by Israel but not part of Israel.
West Bank *WAS* part of Jordan, they lost it during a failed attack
against Israel, to this day Jordan demands that Israel *NOT* leave the
West Bank because they want Israel to protect them for further
"palestinian incursions like the ones the "palestinians" are making into
Egypt by way of Gaza.
Looks like mimi is caught in another lie.
Ray Fisher known terrorist sympathizer always accuses others of lying
when his lies are shown to be lies.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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11 Jan 2006 10:21:41 AM |
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Mimi Cohen <mimiNOSPAMgal@cox.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Mimi Cohen <mimiNOSPAMgal@cox.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
- Khaled Al-Azm, Syria's Prime Minister after the 1948 war
Mimi quoting biased terrorist sympathizers?!? It's obvious nonsense.
Syria didn't suck in the refugees. Israel drove them out.
Ray Fisher, known terrorist supporter *CAN'T* stop lying about any and
Anybody who dares to criticize Israel is an anti-semite, a terrorist,
and a liar according to mimi.
Ray Fisher, know terrorist sympathizer *CAN'T* stop lying about Israel
and me.
Q.E.D.
Non sequitur. Israel still refuses to allow those people to return to
their homes. And we note that refugee camps are not part of Israel
in part because Israel refuses to annex Gaza or the West Bank.
Another lie, Israel has no say so over foreigners in foreign countries.
Non sequitur. Israel controls the occupied territories and has
repeatedly refused entry to the refugees.
A) There are no "occupied territories" that is a "palestinian" lie.
West Bank. Occupied by Israel but not part of Israel.
West Bank *WAS* part of Jordan, they lost it during a failed attack
West Bank. Occupied by Israel but not part of Israel.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Mimi Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: THE BIG LIE OF A MASSACRE AT DEIR YASSIN |
11 Jan 2006 10:34:39 AM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
Mimi Cohen <mimiNOSPAMgal@cox.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Mimi Cohen <mimiNOSPAMgal@cox.net> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
- Khaled Al-Azm, Syria's Prime Minister after the 1948 war
Mimi quoting biased terrorist sympathizers?!? It's obvious nonsense.
Syria didn't suck in the refugees. Israel drove them out.
Ray Fisher, known terrorist supporter *CAN'T* stop lying about any and
Anybody who dares to criticize Israel is an anti-semite, a terrorist,
and a liar according to mimi.
Ray Fisher, know terrorist sympathizer *CAN'T* stop lying about Israel
and me.
Q.E.D.
Non sequitur. Israel still refuses to allow those people to return to
their homes. And we note that refugee camps are not part of Israel
in part because Israel refuses to annex Gaza or the West Bank.
Another lie, Israel has no say so over foreigners in foreign countries.
Non sequitur. Israel controls the occupied territories and has
repeatedly refused entry to the refugees.
A) There are no "occupied territories" that is a "palestinian" lie.
West Bank. Occupied by Israel but not part of Israel.
West Bank *WAS* part of Jordan, they lost it during a failed attack
West Bank. Occupied by Israel but not part of Israel.
An Israeli territory. Ray Fisher's ignorance of all things Israel is
only surpassed by his terrorist sympathies.
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