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13 Sep 2004 05:51:38 PM |
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The Case Against Kerry |
On September 13, 2004, WorldNetDaily.com posted Joseph Farah's
column titled: "The Case Against Kerry." Go to:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40418
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Excerpts:
[...]
"This is a presidential candidate far outside the American
political mainstream.
* He's against the death penalty.
* He's for unrestricted abortion on demand.
[...]
"But how does one argue for killing unborn children and saving
those who have murdered – sometimes often? It will be inter-
esting to hear Kerry's justification of that position if the press
ever bothers to ask him.
"Kerry is so extreme on abortion, he's against bans on partial-birth
procedures and opposed to parental-notification laws.
* In the U.S. Senate, Kerry has voted with Ted Kennedy 94
percent of the time. For 10 solid years – 2001, 1999, 1998,
1993, 1992, 1989, 1988, 1987, 1986 and 1985 – they voted
together 100 percent of the time. Kerry's overall rating from
the Americans for Democratic Action is actually 5 points
higher than Kennedy's.
* As Massachusetts' lieutenant governor, Kerry supported Gov.
Michael Dukakis prison furlough program. Does any one
remember Willie Horton?
* Kerry has opposed a balanced-budget amendment five times.
* Kerry has consistently supported tax increases and opposed
tax cuts.
* He has a 26 percent lifetime rating from Citizens Against
Government Waste.
*Kerry has voted for at least seven major reductions in
defense and military spending. Kerry voted five times to
raid the Social Security Trust Fund for non-Social Security
spending.
* Kerry was one of only 14 senators to vote against the
Defense Of Marriage Act – a law signed by President
Clinton.
* Kerry wants to expand so-called "hate-crime legislation"
to include gender, sexual orientation and disability as
new victim classes.
* He's for human cloning.
[...]
"When I heard Kerry tout his Vietnam War experience, I
thought it was ludicrous. To me, it was like Jane Fonda
running for president on her Vietnam War record. But
let's face it – this guy doesn't have much in common
with the electorate. He is out of step – far out of step
– with the American people on virtually every issue under
the sun.
[...]
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Papa Jack commented:
"...it was like Jane Fonda running for president
on her Vietnam War record."
I like that. For those of us who had good reason to consider
Jane Fonda an out-and-out traitor to her country and all we
stand for, this one description of Kerry is a telling one.
Kerry is the exact opposite of the sort of human being I want
to be the President of the United States of America.
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| User: "Greg Bernath" |
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| Title: Re: The Case Against Kerry |
13 Sep 2004 08:02:44 PM |
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(papa jack) wrote:
Kerry is the exact opposite of the sort of human being I want
to be the President of the United States of America.
Given that you're a thoroughly evil lying hypocrite, that's high
praise for Kerry indeed. If someone like you liked Kerry, I'd wonder
what was wrong with him.
Meanwhile, I'll point out that Kerry is well ahead in the electorical
votes, and his star is still rising. These are state-by-state polls
done by independent orgs, not the Bush shill polls.
http://www.electoral-vote.com/
Get used to saying "President Kerry". Try not to choke on the words.
Greg Bernath
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: The Case Against Kerry |
13 Sep 2004 08:15:39 PM |
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"Greg Bernath" <gregignoresthis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:2dgck0ld06881be1gs5abnto5obnl9lnhn@4ax.com...
papajack37@sbcglobal.net (papa jack) wrote:
Kerry is the exact opposite of the sort of human being I want
to be the President of the United States of America.
Given that you're a thoroughly evil lying hypocrite, that's high
praise for Kerry indeed. If someone like you liked Kerry, I'd wonder
what was wrong with him.
Meanwhile, I'll point out that Kerry is well ahead in the electorical
votes, and his star is still rising. These are state-by-state polls
done by independent orgs, not the Bush shill polls.
http://www.electoral-vote.com/
Get used to saying "President Kerry". Try not to choke on the words.
You said the same exact thing with Al Gore, did you choke saying "President
Bush"?
Greg Bernath
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| User: "BOB" |
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13 Sep 2004 08:24:44 PM |
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Greg Bernath <gregignoresthis@earthlink.net> wrote in
news:2dgck0ld06881be1gs5abnto5obnl9lnhn@4ax.com:
papajack37@sbcglobal.net (papa jack) wrote:
Kerry is the exact opposite of the sort of human being I want to be the
President of the United States of America.
Given that you're a thoroughly evil lying hypocrite, that's high
praise for Kerry indeed. If someone like you liked Kerry, I'd wonder
what was wrong with him.
Meanwhile, I'll point out that Kerry is well ahead in the electorical
votes, and his star is still rising. These are state-by-state polls
done by independent orgs, not the Bush shill polls.
http://www.electoral-vote.com/
Get used to saying "President Kerry". Try not to choke on the words.
I like the sound of that, Greg. Thanks.
Greg Bernath
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| User: "papa jack" |
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| Title: Re: The Case Against Kerry |
14 Sep 2004 12:02:05 PM |
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BOB <sd@sd.net> wrote in message news:<Xns9563BB4B82869SD@68.6.19.6>...
Greg Bernath <gregignoresthis@earthlink.net> wrote:
papajack37@sbcglobal.net (papa jack) wrote:
=========================================================================
Papa Jack cited:
On September 13, 2004, WorldNetDaily.com posted Joseph Farah's
column titled: "The Case Against Kerry." Go to:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40418
_________________________________________________________________________
Excerpts:
[...]
"This is a presidential candidate far outside the American
political mainstream.
* He's against the death penalty.
* He's for unrestricted abortion on demand.
[...]
"But how does one argue for killing unborn children and saving
those who have murdered – sometimes often? It will be inter-
esting to hear Kerry's justification of that position if the press
ever bothers to ask him.
"Kerry is so extreme on abortion, he's against bans on partial-birth
procedures and opposed to parental-notification laws.
* In the U.S. Senate, Kerry has voted with Ted Kennedy 94
percent of the time. For 10 solid years – 2001, 1999, 1998,
1993, 1992, 1989, 1988, 1987, 1986 and 1985 – they voted
together 100 percent of the time. Kerry's overall rating from
the Americans for Democratic Action is actually 5 points
higher than Kennedy's.
* As Massachusetts' lieutenant governor, Kerry supported Gov.
Michael Dukakis prison furlough program. Does any one
remember Willie Horton?
* Kerry has opposed a balanced-budget amendment five times.
* Kerry has consistently supported tax increases and opposed
tax cuts.
* He has a 26 percent lifetime rating from Citizens Against
Government Waste.
*Kerry has voted for at least seven major reductions in
defense and military spending. Kerry voted five times to
raid the Social Security Trust Fund for non-Social Security
spending.
* Kerry was one of only 14 senators to vote against the
Defense Of Marriage Act – a law signed by President
Clinton.
* Kerry wants to expand so-called "hate-crime legislation"
to include gender, sexual orientation and disability as
new victim classes.
* He's for human cloning.
[...]
"When I heard Kerry tout his Vietnam War experience, I
thought it was ludicrous. To me, it was like Jane Fonda
running for president on her Vietnam War record. But
let's face it – this guy doesn't have much in common
with the electorate. He is out of step – far out of step
– with the American people on virtually every issue under
the sun.
[...]
_________________________________________________________________________
Papa Jack commented:
"...it was like Jane Fonda running for president
on her Vietnam War record."
I like that. For those of us who had good reason to consider
Jane Fonda an out-and-out traitor to her country and all we
stand for, this one description of Kerry is a telling one.
Kerry is the exact opposite of the sort of human being I want to be the
President of the United States of America.
=========================================================================
Greg Bernath screeched:
Given that you're a thoroughly evil lying hypocrite, that's high
praise for Kerry indeed. If someone like you liked Kerry, I'd wonder
what was wrong with him.
Meanwhile, I'll point out that Kerry is well ahead in the electorical
votes, and his star is still rising. These are state-by-state polls
done by independent orgs, not the Bush shill polls.
http://www.electoral-vote.com/
Get used to saying "President Kerry". Try not to choke on the words.
=========================================================================
BOB danced around like a puppy:
I like the sound of that, Greg. Thanks.
=========================================================================
Papa Jack commented:
Hmmmm. Do you consider these "Bush shill polls?"
* Newsweek Poll
* Associated Press-Ipsos poll
* Time poll
* ABC News/Washington Post Poll.
***********************************************************************************
Newsweek Poll
conducted by Princeton Survey Research Associates International.
Sept. 9-10, 2004. N=1,003 registered voters nationwide. MoE ± 4
(for all registered voters).
"Suppose the election were being held TODAY and you had
the following three choices for president and vice president:
George W. Bush and ***** Cheney, the Republicans; John Kerry
and John Edwards, the Democrats; and Ralph Nader and Peter
Camejo, the independent or third party candidates. [Choices
rotated.] Who would you vote for?" If none of these: "As of
TODAY, do you LEAN more toward Bush and Cheney, the Republi-
cans; Kerry and Edwards, the Democrats; or Nader and Camejo?"
Bush/Cheney Kerry/Edwards
% %
ALL ..............49 ........................ 43
Republicans...... 93 ......................... 4
Democrats ........ 7 ....................... 87
Independants..... 39 ........................45
***********************************************************************************
Associated Press-Ipsos poll
conducted by Ipsos-Public Affairs. Sept. 7-9, 2004. N=1,286 registered
voters nationwide (MoE ± 2.5); 899 likely voters (MoE ± 3.5).
..
"If the election for president and vice president were held
today and the candidates were George W. Bush for president
and ***** Cheney for vice president, the Republicans, and
John Kerry for president and John Edwards for vice president,
the Democrats, and Ralph Nader for president and Peter Camejo
for vice president, the independents, for whom would you
vote?" If "other," "none," or "not sure": "Do you lean more
toward [see below]?"
..
Bush/Cheney Kerry/Edwards
% %
Among likely voters: 9/7-9/04..... 52 ........... 43
***********************************************************************************
Time Poll
conducted by Schulman, Ronca & Bucuvalas (SRBI) Public Affairs.
Sept. 7-9, 2004. N=1,013 registered voters nationwide (MoE ± 3),
857 likely voters (MoE ± 4). NOTE: Time magazine typically reports
election trial heat results without leaners. So that they are
consistent with how most national poll results are reported, the
Time Poll trial heats on PollingReport.com are shown with leaners
included (when available).
..
"Suppose the 2004 election for president were being held today,
and you had to choose between John Kerry and John Edwards, the
Democrats, and George W. Bush and ***** Cheney, the Republicans.
For whom would you vote: Kerry and Edwards, or Bush and Cheney?"
If undecided: "Even though you haven't made up your mind yet, do
you lean more toward supporting Kerry or Bush?" Options rotated
..
Bush/Cheney Kerry/Edwards
% %
Among likely voters: 9/7-9/04....54 ............... 42
***********************************************************************************
ABC News/Washington Post Poll.
Sept. 6-8, 2004. N=952 registered voters nationwide. MoE ± 3.
(For likely voters, MoE ± 3.5). Fieldwork by TNS. 7/8-11/04:
Washington Post Poll.
..
"If the 2004 presidential election were being held today,
would you vote for George W. Bush and ***** Cheney, the
Republicans, John Kerry and John Edwards, the Democrats,
or Ralph Nader and Peter Camejo, the independents?" If
undecided: "Which candidate are you leaning toward?"
Order of Bush/Cheney and Kerry/Edwards tickets rotated,
with Nader/Camejo ticket always last
..
Bush/Cheney Kerry/Edwards
% %
Among likely voters: 9/6-8/04 .....52 .............. 43
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| User: "BOB" |
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14 Sep 2004 11:21:55 PM |
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(papa jack) wrote in
news:bd9f1f6b.0409140902.546e5bd4@posting.google.com:
BOB <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
news:<Xns9563BB4B82869SD@68.6.19.6>...
Greg Bernath <gregignoresthis@earthlink.net> wrote:
(papa jack) wrote:
=========================================================================
Papa Jack cited:
On September 13, 2004, WorldNetDaily.com posted Joseph Farah's
column titled: "The Case Against Kerry." Go to:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40418
________________________________________________________________________
_
Excerpts:
[...]
"This is a presidential candidate far outside the American
political mainstream.
* He's against the death penalty.
* He's for unrestricted abortion on demand.
[...]
"But how does one argue for killing unborn children and saving
those who have murdered – sometimes often? It will be inter-
esting to hear Kerry's justification of that position if the press
ever bothers to ask him.
"Kerry is so extreme on abortion, he's against bans on
partial-birth procedures and opposed to parental-notification laws.
* In the U.S. Senate, Kerry has voted with Ted Kennedy 94
percent of the time. For 10 solid years – 2001, 1999, 1998,
1993, 1992, 1989, 1988, 1987, 1986 and 1985 – they voted together
100 percent of the time. Kerry's overall rating from the
Americans for Democratic Action is actually 5 points higher than
Kennedy's.
* As Massachusetts' lieutenant governor, Kerry supported Gov.
Michael Dukakis prison furlough program. Does any one remember
Willie Horton?
* Kerry has opposed a balanced-budget amendment five times.
* Kerry has consistently supported tax increases and opposed tax
cuts.
* He has a 26 percent lifetime rating from Citizens Against
Government Waste.
*Kerry has voted for at least seven major reductions in
defense and military spending. Kerry voted five times to
raid the Social Security Trust Fund for non-Social Security
spending.
* Kerry was one of only 14 senators to vote against the
Defense Of Marriage Act – a law signed by President
Clinton.
* Kerry wants to expand so-called "hate-crime legislation"
to include gender, sexual orientation and disability as new
victim classes.
* He's for human cloning.
[...]
"When I heard Kerry tout his Vietnam War experience, I
thought it was ludicrous. To me, it was like Jane Fonda
running for president on her Vietnam War record. But
let's face it – this guy doesn't have much in common
with the electorate. He is out of step – far out of step
– with the American people on virtually every issue under
the sun.
[...]
________________________________________________________________________
_
Papa Jack commented:
"...it was like Jane Fonda running for president on her Vietnam
War record."
I like that. For those of us who had good reason to consider
Jane Fonda an out-and-out traitor to her country and all we stand
for, this one description of Kerry is a telling one.
Kerry is the exact opposite of the sort of human being I want to be
the President of the United States of America.
=========================================================================
Greg Bernath screeched:
Given that you're a thoroughly evil lying hypocrite, that's high
praise for Kerry indeed. If someone like you liked Kerry, I'd wonder
what was wrong with him.
Meanwhile, I'll point out that Kerry is well ahead in the electorical
votes, and his star is still rising. These are state-by-state polls
done by independent orgs, not the Bush shill polls.
http://www.electoral-vote.com/
Get used to saying "President Kerry". Try not to choke on the words.
=========================================================================
BOB danced around like a puppy:
I like the sound of that, Greg. Thanks.
=========================================================================
Papa Jack commented:
Hmmmm. Do you consider these "Bush shill polls?"
* Newsweek Poll
* Associated Press-Ipsos poll
* Time poll
* ABC News/Washington Post Poll.
************************************************************************
*********** Newsweek Poll
conducted by Princeton Survey Research Associates International.
Sept. 9-10, 2004. N=1,003 registered voters nationwide. MoE ± 4
(for all registered voters).
"Suppose the election were being held TODAY and you had
the following three choices for president and vice president:
George W. Bush and ***** Cheney, the Republicans; John Kerry
and John Edwards, the Democrats; and Ralph Nader and Peter
Camejo, the independent or third party candidates. [Choices
rotated.] Who would you vote for?" If none of these: "As of
TODAY, do you LEAN more toward Bush and Cheney, the Republi-
cans; Kerry and Edwards, the Democrats; or Nader and Camejo?"
Bush/Cheney Kerry/Edwards
% %
ALL ..............49 ........................ 43
Republicans...... 93 ......................... 4
Democrats ........ 7 ....................... 87
Independants..... 39 ........................45
************************************************************************
***********
Associated Press-Ipsos poll
conducted by Ipsos-Public Affairs. Sept. 7-9, 2004. N=1,286 registered
voters nationwide (MoE ± 2.5); 899 likely voters (MoE ± 3.5).
.
"If the election for president and vice president were held
today and the candidates were George W. Bush for president
and ***** Cheney for vice president, the Republicans, and
John Kerry for president and John Edwards for vice president,
the Democrats, and Ralph Nader for president and Peter Camejo
for vice president, the independents, for whom would you
vote?" If "other," "none," or "not sure": "Do you lean more
toward [see below]?"
.
Bush/Cheney Kerry/Edwards
% %
Among likely voters: 9/7-9/04..... 52 ........... 43
************************************************************************
***********
Time Poll
conducted by Schulman, Ronca & Bucuvalas (SRBI) Public Affairs.
Sept. 7-9, 2004. N=1,013 registered voters nationwide (MoE ± 3),
857 likely voters (MoE ± 4). NOTE: Time magazine typically reports
election trial heat results without leaners. So that they are
consistent with how most national poll results are reported, the
Time Poll trial heats on PollingReport.com are shown with leaners
included (when available).
.
"Suppose the 2004 election for president were being held today,
and you had to choose between John Kerry and John Edwards, the
Democrats, and George W. Bush and ***** Cheney, the Republicans.
For whom would you vote: Kerry and Edwards, or Bush and Cheney?"
If undecided: "Even though you haven't made up your mind yet, do
you lean more toward supporting Kerry or Bush?" Options rotated
.
Bush/Cheney Kerry/Edwards
% %
Among likely voters: 9/7-9/04....54 ............... 42
************************************************************************
*********** ABC News/Washington Post Poll.
Sept. 6-8, 2004. N=952 registered voters nationwide. MoE ± 3.
(For likely voters, MoE ± 3.5). Fieldwork by TNS. 7/8-11/04:
Washington Post Poll.
.
"If the 2004 presidential election were being held today,
would you vote for George W. Bush and ***** Cheney, the
Republicans, John Kerry and John Edwards, the Democrats,
or Ralph Nader and Peter Camejo, the independents?" If
undecided: "Which candidate are you leaning toward?"
Order of Bush/Cheney and Kerry/Edwards tickets rotated,
with Nader/Camejo ticket always last
.
Bush/Cheney Kerry/Edwards
% %
Among likely voters: 9/6-8/04 .....52 .............. 43
************************************************************************
***********
Counting your chickens, wingnut? Why don't we just wait until November?
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| User: "John Savard" |
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14 Sep 2004 01:17:43 PM |
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On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:02:44 GMT, Greg Bernath
<gregignoresthis@earthlink.net> wrote, in part:
Get used to saying "President Kerry". Try not to choke on the words.
Somehow, I find that almost beyond belief.
John Savard
http://home.ecn.ab.ca/~jsavard/index.html
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| User: "John Savard" |
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14 Sep 2004 01:23:20 PM |
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On 13 Sep 2004 15:51:38 -0700, (papa jack)
wrote, in part:
* Kerry was one of only 14 senators to vote against the
Defense Of Marriage Act – a law signed by President
Clinton.
* Kerry wants to expand so-called "hate-crime legislation"
to include gender, sexual orientation and disability as
new victim classes.
Many people will find these hard to consider as among John Kerry's *bad*
points.
John Savard
http://home.ecn.ab.ca/~jsavard/index.html
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| User: "Spartakus" |
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14 Sep 2004 12:08:29 PM |
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The ONLY reason Papa Jack posted this, the ONLY reason why the article
he cited exists is that there is no case FOR Bush.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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14 Sep 2004 12:42:46 AM |
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papa jackass <papajack37@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On September 13, 2004, WorldNetDaily.com posted Joseph Farah's
column titled: "The Case Against Kerry." Go to:
Another neocon slinging *****.
_________________________________________________________________________
Excerpts:
[...]
"This is a presidential candidate far outside the American
political mainstream.
Bush? He sure is. Far more extreme and conservative than the vast
majority of Americans.
I like that. For those of us who had good reason to consider
Jane Fonda an out-and-out traitor to her country and all we
Jackass is a goose-stepping fascist who would execute anybody who
dared to criticize the government.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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