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"ROB Wade" |
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15 Aug 2005 01:05:59 PM |
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The gag reflex |
The gag reflex
By Alan Sears
WorldNetDaily.com
California's advocates of homosexual behavior continue to explore brave
new ways to whittle the First Amendment down to a manageable size -
big enough to embrace their defiant, deviant behavioral choices; small
enough to silence anyone who opposes them.
Their latest inspiration is to introduce legislation in the California
Assembly that, if passed, would compel all political candidates who
sign a "voluntary" non-discrimination pledge to refrain from any "hate
speeches" that do not affirm homosexual behavior and that might inflame
the campaign trail. The current pledge only lists race, sex, religion,
national origin, physical health status, and age. The bill, AB 866,
made its way through a judiciary committee April 5.
There's no provision to opt out of one part of the pledge. Sign the
whole thing - or don't sign it and appear as though you don't care
about equality for anyone. In effect, this so-called addition to the
"pledge" amounts to a gag rule on anyone who fails to adequately, and
vocally, endorse the homosexual agenda. In other words, their new
"tolerance" is their opposition's silence.
Those promoting that agenda claim such gagging is necessary, since (in
the words of the bill's sponsor, Democrat Leland Yee) any debate over
homosexual rights is inherently "divisive," "potentially dangerous" to
the community, and contributes to "an atmosphere of fear, intimidation,
and instances of violence." Wouldn't it just be better for everyone,
Yee and company suggest, if we refrained from discussing these issues
altogether and just quietly agreed to go along with what "lesbians,
gays, bisexuals, and transgender individuals" want?
That's an interesting perspective, coming from a group who clings so
tenaciously to their own freedom of speech rights under the First
Amendment. It reminds one of the guiding philosophy of the dictatorial
pigs on George Orwell's "Animal Farm": "All animals are equal," they
declared, "but some are more equal than others."
Of course, just because those promoting the homosexual agenda might be
hypocritical here doesn't mean that they're completely wrong. Debate
does tend to reveal divisions. They ought to realize that that is a
primary purpose of debate. And, yes, the marketplace of ideas is indeed
a potentially dangerous place - almost as dangerous as a state
assembly that would consider giving itself the authority to decide what
candidates can and cannot talk about.
Does unfettered discussion of the morals, goals and social activism of
those who engage in homosexual behavior indeed breed fear and
intimidation? Perhaps in a limited number of extreme cases. But then so
does wielding the law like a two-by-four on anyone who questions your
politics. Are people more frightened when they know they can openly and
fully debate an issue - or when they are ordered not to?
An overreaction, some may say. But controlling the language is almost
always a component of government-backed cultural indoctrination. The
Canadian province of Ontario, which in February struck all
gender-specific references from its laws, programs, services and
documents is but the latest domino to fall. As predictable as it was
outrageous - but California is proving that such oddness is not
reserved for our friends to the north.
Is the First Amendment, with all its safeguards for religious liberty
and free speech, expendable now if it interferes with the homosexual
agenda?
But this isn't just about politics, say those who engage in homosexual
behavior. They claim their very lives are at stake. Widespread
anti-homosexual violence rises, they say, in the wake of comments
opposing celebration of their legal demands and sexual behavior.
Well ... easy to state, hard to prove. Contrary to the mistaken
assumptions of the advocates of homosexual behavior in California,
communication is key to resolving volatile issues. Historically,
attempts to throttle free speech or use government coercion to dictate
the language have failed miserably in achieving any good whatsoever.
And that, in the end, is the problem with California's proposed
"pledge" legislation. If dispute and division looms when issues of
morality, decency and human sexuality are discussed; if debating these
points continues to reveal deep differences among the voting public; if
some on both sides of these questions find the opposition intimidating
....
.... it may be because these issues are that important.
So important that they cut to the essential foundations of who we are
as a people. So important that advocates of homosexual behavior are
willing to undermine - or even ignore - the First Amendment to
avoid them.
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| User: "Gaia" |
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19 Aug 2005 11:50:57 AM |
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On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 10:59:19 -0400, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
"Ricky Ticket" <not@given.com> wrote in message
news:0001HW.BF296A88000A7C031C580150@news.east.earthlink.net...
On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 20:16:11 -0400, Johnny wrote
(in message <PjvMe.9949$xW.2979@bignews6.bellsouth.net>):
Because gay men infected the blood supply and they infected heterosexual
women.
Did god tell you that cletus? :o)
You think God told me since you know I am right........so, stop trying to
hide your sexual orientation and HIV status.
Pervert.
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| User: "Ricky Ticket" |
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| Title: Re: The gag reflex |
21 Aug 2005 09:26:14 AM |
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On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 12:50:57 -0400, Gaia wrote
(in message <ke3cg1p1aeh7mn5i9ho1774rjrc7cosh48@4ax.com>):
You think God told me since you know I am right........so, stop trying to
hide your sexual orientation and HIV status.
Pervert.
He hated his brother and his brother died of aids, so anyone that he dislikes
is HIV positive to his thinking. ;o)
--
"This was exactly the opportunity I was waiting for. This will prove how much
of a coward you are." --Osprey
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: The gag reflex |
21 Aug 2005 10:08:55 AM |
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"Ricky Ticket" <not@given.com> wrote in message
news:0001HW.BF2E0761000EA0861D415F60@news.east.earthlink.net...
On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 12:50:57 -0400, Gaia wrote
(in message <ke3cg1p1aeh7mn5i9ho1774rjrc7cosh48@4ax.com>):
You think God told me since you know I am right........so, stop trying
to
hide your sexual orientation and HIV status.
Pervert.
He hated his brother
Now, that is a lie.
and his brother died of aids,
That is not the cause of death listen on the death certificate.
so anyone that he dislikes
is HIV positive to his thinking.
Hey, idiot. It is not me that did not love my brother. It is members of
society such as you and the people who went against me and him who did not
love him or me enough.
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: The gag reflex |
21 Aug 2005 11:55:47 PM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Ricky Ticket" <not@given.com> wrote in message
news:0001HW.BF2E0761000EA0861D415F60@news.east.earthlink.net...
On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 12:50:57 -0400, Gaia wrote
(in message <ke3cg1p1aeh7mn5i9ho1774rjrc7cosh48@4ax.com>):
You think God told me since you know I am right........so, stop trying to
hide your sexual orientation and HIV status.
Pervert.
He hated his brother
Now, that is a lie.
I hope that's the case.
and his brother died of aids,
That is not the cause of death listen on the death certificate.
So, why did you mention the events that led up to his death? In case you've
forgotten, you *did* spill some of the details, a few years ago: the
brother's crash that necessitated the transfusion that wasn't properly
screened, that led to your taking a lot of time off from your work to care for
him...
so anyone that he dislikes is HIV positive to his thinking.
Hey, idiot. It is not me that did not love my brother. It is members of
society such as you and the people who went against me and him who did not
love him or me enough.
So, you're blaming the rest of us for one person's mistake? You made that
choice, so at least have the backbone to deal with the attendant consequences.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 5, Houston 3 (April 26)
NEXT GAME: Friday, October 7 vs. San Antonio, 7:35
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: The gag reflex |
22 Aug 2005 07:20:29 AM |
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"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szkpss6a7u4.fsf@eris.io.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Ricky Ticket" <not@given.com> wrote in message
news:0001HW.BF2E0761000EA0861D415F60@news.east.earthlink.net...
On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 12:50:57 -0400, Gaia wrote
(in message <ke3cg1p1aeh7mn5i9ho1774rjrc7cosh48@4ax.com>):
You think God told me since you know I am right........so, stop trying
to
hide your sexual orientation and HIV status.
Pervert.
He hated his brother
Now, that is a lie.
I hope that's the case.
and his brother died of aids,
That is not the cause of death listen on the death certificate.
So, why did you mention the events that led up to his death? In case
you've
forgotten, you *did* spill some of the details, a few years ago: the
brother's crash that necessitated the transfusion that wasn't properly
screened,
You don't even relate the story as I told it.
You are not relating it accurately.
that led to your taking a lot of time off from your work to care for
him...
You still are not relating the story accurately.
so anyone that he dislikes is HIV positive to his thinking.
Hey, idiot. It is not me that did not love my brother. It is members of
society such as you and the people who went against me and him who did not
love him or me enough.
So, you're blaming the rest of us for one person's mistake?
You are gay?
You made that
choice, so at least have the backbone to deal with the attendant
consequences.
I have plenty of backbone, and it won't go away.
I do not practice the evils that were practiced against me and my brother.
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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23 Aug 2005 12:42:08 AM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szkpss6a7u4.fsf@eris.io.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Ricky Ticket" <not@given.com> wrote in message
news:0001HW.BF2E0761000EA0861D415F60@news.east.earthlink.net...
On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 12:50:57 -0400, Gaia wrote
(in message <ke3cg1p1aeh7mn5i9ho1774rjrc7cosh48@4ax.com>):
You think God told me since you know I am right........so, stop trying
to hide your sexual orientation and HIV status.
Pervert.
He hated his brother
Now, that is a lie.
I hope that's the case.
and his brother died of aids,
That is not the cause of death listen on the death certificate.
So, why did you mention the events that led up to his death? In case
you've forgotten, you *did* spill some of the details, a few years ago:
the brother's crash that necessitated the transfusion that wasn't properly
screened,
You don't even relate the story as I told it.
You are not relating it accurately.
My apologies if that's so...mind giving us the truth, according to you?
that led to your taking a lot of time off from your work to care for
him...
You still are not relating the story accurately.
See above.
so anyone that he dislikes is HIV positive to his thinking.
Hey, idiot. It is not me that did not love my brother. It is members of
society such as you and the people who went against me and him who did not
love him or me enough.
So, you're blaming the rest of us for one person's mistake?
You are gay?
I never made a choice to be heterosxual. It's how I was born, and have been
ever since (50 years and 95 days later). I'm just one of those people who's
secure enough in the knowledge of who I am that I'm not terrified out of my
wits (as you are) by the mere existence of people whose sexual orientation
isn't identical to mine. That's part of why I have no problem with legalizing
same-sex marriage.
You made that choice, so at least have the backbone to deal with the
attendant consequences.
I have plenty of backbone, and it won't go away.
You misspelled "anger".
I do not practice the evils that were practiced against me and my brother.
No, you just lash out at anyone who dares to disagree with your lunacy. Same
difference.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 5, Houston 3 (April 26)
NEXT GAME: Friday, October 7 vs. San Antonio, 7:35
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| User: "Ricky Ticket" |
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| Title: Re: The gag reflex |
23 Aug 2005 04:33:28 PM |
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On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 8:20:29 -0400, Johnny wrote
(in message <ZojOe.5350$ZD4.4330@bignews3.bellsouth.net>):
I do not practice the evils that were practiced against me and my brother.
Your anger killed your brother, who's next? Did your mother take her
medication today? :o)
--
"You run too much mouth in here and try to act like a big person behind the
computer screen. True sign of a coward." --Osprey
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| User: "Gaia" |
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21 Aug 2005 10:52:46 AM |
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On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 11:08:55 -0400, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
"Ricky Ticket" <not@given.com> wrote in message
news:0001HW.BF2E0761000EA0861D415F60@news.east.earthlink.net...
On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 12:50:57 -0400, Gaia wrote
(in message <ke3cg1p1aeh7mn5i9ho1774rjrc7cosh48@4ax.com>):
You think God told me since you know I am right........so, stop trying
to
hide your sexual orientation and HIV status.
Pervert.
He hated his brother
Now, that is a lie.
It's obvious you lovd your sibling; but you do hate a people whom you
think are responsible for your tragedy--they aren't.
You are, however, responsible for what you say. In fact, the
disinformation you spread may end up killing somebody else's
family member--is that what you want? 'Cause it ain't gonna
bring your bro back, dude.
and his brother died of aids,
That is not the cause of death listen on the death certificate.
so anyone that he dislikes
is HIV positive to his thinking.
Hey, idiot. It is not me that did not love my brother. It is members of
society such as you and the people who went against me and him who did not
love him or me enough.
I did not know you or your brother, and I certainly was not
irresponsible as to deliberately disinform people to lead them to the
kind of tragedy which has happened to you.
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: The gag reflex |
22 Aug 2005 07:07:47 AM |
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"Gaia" <starchaser@inorbit.com> wrote in message
news:t58hg1pj9f6drp4p3ghr1gf2ep5vsocv4a@4ax.com...
On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 11:08:55 -0400, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
"Ricky Ticket" <not@given.com> wrote in message
news:0001HW.BF2E0761000EA0861D415F60@news.east.earthlink.net...
On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 12:50:57 -0400, Gaia wrote
(in message <ke3cg1p1aeh7mn5i9ho1774rjrc7cosh48@4ax.com>):
You think God told me since you know I am right........so, stop trying
to
hide your sexual orientation and HIV status.
Pervert.
He hated his brother
Now, that is a lie.
It's obvious you lovd your sibling; but you do hate a people whom you
think are responsible for your tragedy--they aren't.
A people?
You think gay and race are equivalent?
You are, however, responsible for what you say. In fact, the
disinformation you spread may end up killing somebody else's
family member--is that what you want?
Why should I care?
My brother is dead already.
Why shouldn't they die?
LOL!!!!!!!!
Think about it wimp.
Why should people die becuase of more gay acceptance?
'Cause it ain't gonna
bring your bro back, dude.
Is that any sort of excuse to protect HIV infected gay men in society?
Grow up, wimp.
and his brother died of aids,
That is not the cause of death listen on the death certificate.
so anyone that he dislikes
is HIV positive to his thinking.
Hey, idiot. It is not me that did not love my brother. It is members of
society such as you and the people who went against me and him who did not
love him or me enough.
I did not know you or your brother, and I certainly was not
irresponsible as to deliberately disinform people to lead them to the
kind of tragedy which has happened to you.
The corporate looney bin assholes who use trickery and deceit and lies are
who did me wrong.
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: The gag reflex |
23 Aug 2005 12:19:58 AM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Gaia" <starchaser@inorbit.com> wrote in message
news:t58hg1pj9f6drp4p3ghr1gf2ep5vsocv4a@4ax.com...
On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 11:08:55 -0400, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
"Ricky Ticket" <not@given.com> wrote in message
news:0001HW.BF2E0761000EA0861D415F60@news.east.earthlink.net...
On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 12:50:57 -0400, Gaia wrote
(in message <ke3cg1p1aeh7mn5i9ho1774rjrc7cosh48@4ax.com>):
You think God told me since you know I am right........so, stop trying
to hide your sexual orientation and HIV status.
Pervert.
He hated his brother
Now, that is a lie.
It's obvious you lovd your sibling; but you do hate a people whom you
think are responsible for your tragedy--they aren't.
A people? You think gay and race are equivalent?
You obviously believe that anyone not like you shouldn't have rights equal to
yours, as you've been demonstrating for years.
You are, however, responsible for what you say. In fact, the
disinformation you spread may end up killing somebody else's
family member--is that what you want?
Why should I care? My brother is dead already.
Does that justify your incoherent hatred of people who had nothing to do with
his death?
Why shouldn't they die? LOL!!!!!!!! Think about it wimp. Why should people
die becuase of more gay acceptance?
Why shouldn't you die, since you're an insane hater? (You know, like Eric
Rudolph?)
'Cause it ain't gonna bring your bro back, dude.
Is that any sort of excuse to protect HIV infected gay men in society?
Grow up, wimp.
Heed your own advice, hypocrite...and HIV's no longer a gay disease in this
country, if it ever was to begin with. Better not get hurt, because if you
need a transfusion, it could be *your* turn to be on the wrong end of a
screening error. (The odds are long, but they're not zero...thus, it is
possible.)
and his brother died of aids,
That is not the cause of death listen on the death certificate.
so anyone that he dislikes
is HIV positive to his thinking.
Hey, idiot. It is not me that did not love my brother. It is members of
society such as you and the people who went against me and him who did not
love him or me enough.
I did not know you or your brother, and I certainly was not
irresponsible as to deliberately disinform people to lead them to the
kind of tragedy which has happened to you.
The corporate looney bin assholes who use trickery and deceit and lies are
who did me wrong.
That has nothing to do with the hatred you foam at people in this newsgroup,
though. What's your excuse for that?
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 5, Houston 3 (April 26)
NEXT GAME: Friday, October 7 vs. San Antonio, 7:35
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| User: "Ricky Ticket" |
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23 Aug 2005 03:58:49 PM |
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On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 1:19:58 -0400, The Chief Instigator wrote
(in message <szk1x4ltekh.fsf@eris.io.com>):
Why shouldn't they die? LOL!!!!!!!! Think about it wimp. Why should
people
die becuase of more gay acceptance?
Why shouldn't you die, since you're an insane hater? (You know, like Eric
Rudolph?)
Maybe god thought it better to kill his brother and let johnny live in pain
with the knowledge that he let his brother die. :o)
--
There is no right to resort to violence when you don't get your way. There is
no right to kill people ... Those who claim such rights are wrong and
un-American. --President Bill Clinton
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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24 Aug 2005 01:03:31 AM |
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Ricky Ticket <not@given.com> writes:
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 1:19:58 -0400, The Chief Instigator wrote
(in message <szk1x4ltekh.fsf@eris.io.com>):
Why shouldn't they die? LOL!!!!!!!! Think about it wimp. Why should
people
die becuase of more gay acceptance?
Why shouldn't you die, since you're an insane hater? (You know, like Eric
Rudolph?)
Maybe god thought it better to kill his brother and let johnny live in pain
with the knowledge that he let his brother die. :o)
Maybe his god has a sense of humor...;-)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 5, Houston 3 (April 26)
NEXT GAME: Friday, October 7 vs. San Antonio, 7:35
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| User: "Louise Mallard" |
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| Title: Re: The gag reflex |
23 Aug 2005 09:01:23 AM |
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On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 08:07:47 -0400, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
"Gaia" <starchaser@inorbit.com> wrote in message
news:t58hg1pj9f6drp4p3ghr1gf2ep5vsocv4a@4ax.com...
On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 11:08:55 -0400, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
"Ricky Ticket" <not@given.com> wrote in message
news:0001HW.BF2E0761000EA0861D415F60@news.east.earthlink.net...
On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 12:50:57 -0400, Gaia wrote
(in message <ke3cg1p1aeh7mn5i9ho1774rjrc7cosh48@4ax.com>):
You think God told me since you know I am right........so, stop trying
to
hide your sexual orientation and HIV status.
Pervert.
He hated his brother
Now, that is a lie.
It's obvious you lovd your sibling; but you do hate a people whom you
think are responsible for your tragedy--they aren't.
A people?
You think gay and race are equivalent?
ALL people are equal, unless you a criminal.
You are, however, responsible for what you say. In fact, the
disinformation you spread may end up killing somebody else's
family member--is that what you want?
Why should I care?
Why should anyone care about you, in that case?
My brother is dead already.
So?
Why shouldn't they die?
Why should you get to live and hurt other people?
LOL!!!!!!!!
Think about it wimp.
I have, *****.
Why should people die becuase of more gay acceptance?
Why should people die because of your hatred?
'Cause it ain't gonna
bring your bro back, dude.
Is that any sort of excuse to protect HIV infected gay men in society?
Since when is HIV a gay man's disease?
Grow up, wimp.
Grow up, *****.
and his brother died of aids,
That is not the cause of death listen on the death certificate.
so anyone that he dislikes
is HIV positive to his thinking.
Hey, idiot. It is not me that did not love my brother. It is members of
society such as you and the people who went against me and him who did not
love him or me enough.
I did not know you or your brother, and I certainly was not
irresponsible as to deliberately disinform people to lead them to the
kind of tragedy which has happened to you.
The corporate looney bin assholes who use trickery and deceit and lies are
who did me wrong.
You're responsible for your own mess.
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| User: "Ricky Ticket" |
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| Title: Re: The gag reflex |
23 Aug 2005 04:08:05 PM |
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On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 10:01:23 -0400, Louise Mallard wrote
(in message <dtamg1d6fi38ugl3jdfh9drt7q4tfqpt7s@4ax.com>):
The corporate looney bin assholes who use trickery and deceit and lies are
who did me wrong.
You're responsible for your own mess.
It's all johnny's fault and he knows it. He could have saved his brother, but
he decided to let him die alone because he has no self control. :o)
--
No, it (homosexuality) is abnormal. Normal is man and woman. Not man and
man, or woman and woman. Just as adult and child is not normal. -- Osprey
(AKA Robert Heishman)
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| User: "Ricky Ticket" |
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23 Aug 2005 04:22:39 PM |
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On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 8:07:47 -0400, Johnny wrote
(in message <3djOe.5345$ZD4.2723@bignews3.bellsouth.net>):
Why should I care?
My brother is dead already.
Why shouldn't they die?
Is "they" the rest of your family johnny? Why do they have to suffer because
of your lack of self control? You are breaking your deal with god johnny! :o)
--
No, it (homosexuality) is abnormal. Normal is man and woman. Not man and
man, or woman and woman. Just as adult and child is not normal. -- Osprey
(AKA Robert Heishman)
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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22 Aug 2005 12:10:15 AM |
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Gaia <starchaser@inorbit.com> writes:
On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 11:08:55 -0400, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
"Ricky Ticket" <not@given.com> wrote in message
news:0001HW.BF2E0761000EA0861D415F60@news.east.earthlink.net...
On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 12:50:57 -0400, Gaia wrote
(in message <ke3cg1p1aeh7mn5i9ho1774rjrc7cosh48@4ax.com>):
You think God told me since you know I am right........so, stop trying
to hide your sexual orientation and HIV status.
Pervert.
He hated his brother
Now, that is a lie.
It's obvious you lovd your sibling; but you do hate a people whom you
think are responsible for your tragedy--they aren't.
You are, however, responsible for what you say. In fact, the disinformation
you spread may end up killing somebody else's family member--is that what you
want? 'Cause it ain't gonna bring your bro back, dude.
You can reason. I don't think he's willing to do anything but blame everyone
else for what happened to his brother. I know it's not something I'd have
wished on anyone, but sometimes, it happens. Maybe it shouldn't, but that's
irrelevant in the face of the reality that whether or not it should have
happened, it _did_ happen.
and his brother died of aids,
That is not the cause of death listen on the death certificate.
so anyone that he dislikes
is HIV positive to his thinking.
Hey, idiot. It is not me that did not love my brother. It is members of
society such as you and the people who went against me and him who did not
love him or me enough.
I did not know you or your brother, and I certainly was not irresponsible as
to deliberately disinform people to lead them to the kind of tragedy which
has happened to you.
Neither have I been...I guess I was lucky enough to be brought up to be
honest, that way.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 5, Houston 3 (April 26)
NEXT GAME: Friday, October 7 vs. San Antonio, 7:35
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22 Aug 2005 07:11:26 AM |
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"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
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Gaia <starchaser@inorbit.com> writes:
On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 11:08:55 -0400, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
"Ricky Ticket" <not@given.com> wrote in message
news:0001HW.BF2E0761000EA0861D415F60@news.east.earthlink.net...
On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 12:50:57 -0400, Gaia wrote
(in message <ke3cg1p1aeh7mn5i9ho1774rjrc7cosh48@4ax.com>):
You think God told me since you know I am right........so, stop
trying
to hide your sexual orientation and HIV status.
Pervert.
He hated his brother
Now, that is a lie.
It's obvious you lovd your sibling; but you do hate a people whom you
think are responsible for your tragedy--they aren't.
You are, however, responsible for what you say. In fact, the
disinformation
you spread may end up killing somebody else's family member--is that what
you
want? 'Cause it ain't gonna bring your bro back, dude.
You can reason. I don't think he's willing to do anything but blame
everyone
else for what happened to his brother. I know it's not something I'd have
wished on anyone, but sometimes, it happens. Maybe it shouldn't, but
that's
irrelevant in the face of the reality that whether or not it should have
happened, it _did_ happen.
What is so bothersome is the people who did lie about me and practice
trickery on me (my former employer) and the snide, arrogant fool in
government who was so derelict in his performance and the fact that NOTHING
was done to correct those lame-brained evildoers who committed crimes
against me or to provide me with fully legal and authorized restitution..
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23 Aug 2005 12:23:36 AM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szkll2ua760.fsf@eris.io.com...
Gaia <starchaser@inorbit.com> writes:
On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 11:08:55 -0400, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
"Ricky Ticket" <not@given.com> wrote in message
news:0001HW.BF2E0761000EA0861D415F60@news.east.earthlink.net...
On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 12:50:57 -0400, Gaia wrote
(in message <ke3cg1p1aeh7mn5i9ho1774rjrc7cosh48@4ax.com>):
You think God told me since you know I am right........so, stop
trying
to hide your sexual orientation and HIV status.
Pervert.
He hated his brother
Now, that is a lie.
It's obvious you lovd your sibling; but you do hate a people whom you
think are responsible for your tragedy--they aren't.
You are, however, responsible for what you say. In fact, the disinformation
you spread may end up killing somebody else's family member--is that what
you want? 'Cause it ain't gonna bring your bro back, dude.
You can reason. I don't think he's willing to do anything but blame
everyone else for what happened to his brother. I know it's not something
I'd have wished on anyone, but sometimes, it happens. Maybe it shouldn't,
but that's irrelevant in the face of the reality that whether or not it
should have happened, it _did_ happen.
What is so bothersome is the people who did lie about me and practice
trickery on me (my former employer) and the snide, arrogant fool in
government who was so derelict in his performance and the fact that NOTHING
was done to correct those lame-brained evildoers who committed crimes
against me or to provide me with fully legal and authorized restitution..
Quit taking it out on those of us who had nothing to do with your brother's
death, then, and quit accusing people of being whatever you disapprove of
until you have proof to back up your whining.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 5, Houston 3 (April 26)
NEXT GAME: Friday, October 7 vs. San Antonio, 7:35
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| User: "Ricky Ticket" |
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23 Aug 2005 04:23:32 PM |
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On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 8:11:26 -0400, Johnny wrote
(in message <vgjOe.5346$ZD4.1242@bignews3.bellsouth.net>):
What is so bothersome is the people who did lie about me and practice
trickery on me (my former employer) and the snide, arrogant fool in
government who was so derelict in his performance and the fact that NOTHING
was done to correct those lame-brained evildoers who committed crimes
against me or to provide me with fully legal and authorized restitution..
It's all your fault johnny, you angered god and you killed your brother. :o)
--
"You are an ex-con who wants to be a man" --Osprey
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| User: "Ricky Ticket" |
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21 Aug 2005 11:11:50 AM |
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On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 11:08:55 -0400, Johnny wrote
(in message <RM0Oe.33078$Rm3.19716@bignews4.bellsouth.net>):
Hey, idiot. It is not me that did not love my brother. It is members of
society such as you and the people who went against me and him who did not
love him or me enough.
Now we are getting somewhere...
So you blame society for your brothers death when it was your hate and your
selfish attitude that caused his death? You could have done more, but you
were too busy and too self indulgent. He lost his will to live because of
YOU.
It's on your head, he died all alone without your love and you can't change
that by being an idiot on the internet. :o)
--
Now, all you have to do to make amends for that is to issue an
unambiguous declaration that David and I are NOT the two people who are
convicted felons. That'll be a start." Patrick Humphrey
"Just as soon as both of you are willing to make some amends yourself. That
would be a start..to the start you want. If you are not willing, don't ask
me." --Osprey
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: The gag reflex |
22 Aug 2005 07:16:35 AM |
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"Ricky Ticket" <not@given.com> wrote in message
news:0001HW.BF2E201F001472021D415F60@news.east.earthlink.net...
On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 11:08:55 -0400, Johnny wrote
(in message <RM0Oe.33078$Rm3.19716@bignews4.bellsouth.net>):
Hey, idiot. It is not me that did not love my brother. It is members of
society such as you and the people who went against me and him who did
not
love him or me enough.
Now we are getting somewhere...
So you blame society for your brothers death
The entire society is composed of gay men?
when it was your hate and your
selfish attitude that caused his death?
I did not cause his death.
You could have done more, but you
were too busy and too self indulgent.
How, *****?
He lost his will to live because of
YOU.
Bull-fucking-***** you god-damned liar.
I was one of the only people who really cared about him, you GOD DAMNED
LIAR!!!!!!!!!
It's on your head,
It isn't, you GOD-DAMNED, PERVERTED, SELFISH LIAR!
You will suffer because of those lies you just made about me.
You will.
he died all alone without your love
I was with him when he died, YOU GOD DAMNED LIAR!
and you can't change
that by being an idiot on the internet. :o)
You are the GOD-DAMNED, IGNORANT LIAR here.
Now, that is not me taking the Lord's name in vain.
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: The gag reflex |
23 Aug 2005 12:36:01 AM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Ricky Ticket" <not@given.com> wrote in message
news:0001HW.BF2E201F001472021D415F60@news.east.earthlink.net...
On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 11:08:55 -0400, Johnny wrote
(in message <RM0Oe.33078$Rm3.19716@bignews4.bellsouth.net>):
Hey, idiot. It is not me that did not love my brother. It is members of
society such as you and the people who went against me and him who did not
love him or me enough.
Now we are getting somewhere...
So you blame society for your brothers death
The entire society is composed of gay men?
Why do you autonatically bring that up whenever you can't figure out a
question?
when it was your hate and your
selfish attitude that caused his death?
I did not cause his death.
I agree. You took the time off to look after him, which is what a lot of
people would have done had they been in the same situation. What earns you
the disrespect you get is your reaction to his death, and the disservice you
do his memory by acting like an un-housebroken 44-year-old.
You could have done more, but you were too busy and too self indulgent.
How, *****?
She's pushing your buttons, and you're too wrecked in the head to ever see it.
He lost his will to live because of YOU.
Bull-fucking-***** you god-damned liar. I was one of the only people who
really cared about him, you GOD DAMNED LIAR!!!!!!!!!
Grow a backbone, for once.
It's on your head,
It isn't, you GOD-DAMNED, PERVERTED, SELFISH LIAR!
She's pushing your buttons with a vengeance, and you're too insane and stupid
to bother to notice - or do anything logical about it.
You will suffer because of those lies you just made about me. You will.
Threats will get you nothing, and you're not doing your late brother any honor
by acting like the 44-year-old infant you've become.
he died all alone without your love
I was with him when he died, YOU GOD DAMNED LIAR!
Who's argued that? At least you got that privilege. I lost both of my
surviving grandparents, and three of my four grandparents, in a span of
thirteen months when I was just out of college...and I was a thousand miles
away in Texas.
and you can't change that by being an idiot on the internet. :o)
You are the GOD-DAMNED, IGNORANT LIAR here.
You're a certifiable idiot in this newsgroup, as anyone who cares to Google
you can easily see for themselves. Where's the lie?
Now, that is not me taking the Lord's name in vain.
So, it's some OTHER John D. Wentzky raving like the bull goose loony you've
become?
I'm sorry for what happened to your brother, but regardless of whether it
should have happened or not, it did happen - and you have to deal with the
consequences of your reaction to it. You're not winning any sympathy by your
behavior.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 5, Houston 3 (April 26)
NEXT GAME: Friday, October 7 vs. San Antonio, 7:35
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| User: "Ricky Ticket" |
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| Title: Re: The gag reflex |
23 Aug 2005 03:53:16 PM |
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On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 1:36:01 -0400, The Chief Instigator wrote
(in message <szkslx1rz9a.fsf@eris.io.com>):
I did not cause his death.
I agree. You took the time off to look after him, which is what a lot of
people would have done had they been in the same situation. What earns you
the disrespect you get is your reaction to his death, and the disservice you
do his memory by acting like an un-housebroken 44-year-old.
Or he feels guilty about letting his brother die alone and makes up lies to
cover that. :o)
Given his lack of truth in all his posts, I have no reason to believe he
a. Had a job at all EVER...
b. Took time off to care for a sick relative...
c. Was ever sane enough to tie his own shoes let alone care for another
person.
--
Be prepared for one HELL of lawsuit though because I will take you for
everything you own. Robert Heishman (AKA Osprey)
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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24 Aug 2005 12:59:51 AM |
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Ricky Ticket <not@given.com> writes:
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 1:36:01 -0400, The Chief Instigator wrote
(in message <szkslx1rz9a.fsf@eris.io.com>):
I did not cause his death.
I agree. You took the time off to look after him, which is what a lot of
people would have done had they been in the same situation. What earns you
the disrespect you get is your reaction to his death, and the disservice you
do his memory by acting like an un-housebroken 44-year-old.
Or he feels guilty about letting his brother die alone and makes up lies to
cover that. :o)
With Johnny, there's no telling.
Given his lack of truth in all his posts, I have no reason to believe he
a. Had a job at all EVER...
b. Took time off to care for a sick relative...
c. Was ever sane enough to tie his own shoes let alone care for another
person.
I think he was sane enough to work for Duke Energy (that'll push his buttons),
who he rails at every time he's given the excuse.
--
Be prepared for one HELL of lawsuit though because I will take you for
everything you own. Robert Heishman (AKA Osprey)
It's driving Spud crazy, because he can't find someone with a criminal record
*and* a name similar to yours. ;-)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 5, Houston 3 (April 26)
NEXT GAME: Friday, October 7 vs. San Antonio, 7:35
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| User: "Ricky Ticket" |
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23 Aug 2005 03:51:39 PM |
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On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 1:36:01 -0400, The Chief Instigator wrote
(in message <szkslx1rz9a.fsf@eris.io.com>):
I was with him when he died, YOU GOD DAMNED LIAR!
Who's argued that?
I have...
Johnny's preoccupation with other peoples lives and calling them killers has
more to do with his guilt over his brother dying alone then it has to do with
abortion. :o)
I have never seen him tell the truth about anything and his daily rants show
he was never sane enough to take care of a dying brother. I have no reason to
believe him and I have no reason not to push him over the edge he is
teetering on. :o)
He attempts to hide that guilt but he can't, he let his brother die alone.
:o)
--
³If your opponent is of choleric temper, seek to irritate him." --Sun Tzu
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: The gag reflex |
23 Aug 2005 07:03:58 PM |
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"Ricky Ticket" <not@given.com> wrote in message
news:0001HW.BF3104B90023E49A1D61E900@news.east.earthlink.net...
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 1:36:01 -0400, The Chief Instigator wrote
(in message <szkslx1rz9a.fsf@eris.io.com>):
I was with him when he died, YOU GOD DAMNED LIAR!
Who's argued that?
I have...
Johnny's preoccupation with other peoples lives and calling them killers
has
more to do with his guilt over his brother dying alone then it has to do
with
abortion. :o)
Just because your gay friends die(d) alone doesn't mean that my STRAIGHT
brother died alone, *****.
The more you lie in such a blatantly false manner about me and my brother
the more likely it is that the God you think I worship will strike you down.
I have never seen him tell the truth about anything and his daily rants
show
he was never sane enough to take care of a dying brother. I have no reason
to
believe him and I have no reason not to push him over the edge he is
teetering on. :o)
I know your death will make people happy.
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: The gag reflex |
24 Aug 2005 12:43:20 AM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Ricky Ticket" <not@given.com> wrote in message
news:0001HW.BF3104B90023E49A1D61E900@news.east.earthlink.net...
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 1:36:01 -0400, The Chief Instigator wrote
(in message <szkslx1rz9a.fsf@eris.io.com>):
I was with him when he died, YOU GOD DAMNED LIAR!
Who's argued that?
I have...
Johnny's preoccupation with other peoples lives and calling them killers
has more to do with his guilt over his brother dying alone then it has to
do with abortion. :o)
Just because your gay friends die(d) alone doesn't mean that my STRAIGHT
brother died alone, *****.
Thanks for going out of your way to confirm that Ricky's got you sussed, dead
on.
The more you lie in such a blatantly false manner about me and my brother
the more likely it is that the God you think I worship will strike you down.
Your alleged god blows goats. Why can't you do your own work?
I have never seen him tell the truth about anything and his daily rants
show he was never sane enough to take care of a dying brother. I have no
reason to believe him and I have no reason not to push him over the edge he
is teetering on. :o)
I know your death will make people happy.
I know you're going out of your way to prove beyond any shadow of a doubt that
you are Just. Plain. Nuts.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 5, Houston 3 (April 26)
NEXT GAME: Friday, October 7 vs. San Antonio, 7:35
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| User: "The Secretary of HomIntern" |
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| Title: Re: The gag reflex |
24 Aug 2005 12:18:13 AM |
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I was busily flonking away in alt.politics.homosexuality, when The Goddess
Eris Herself suddenly made me reply to Johnny:
"Ricky Ticket" wrote...
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 1:36:01 -0400, The Chief Instigator wrote:
I was with him when he died, YOU GOD DAMNED LIAR!
Who's argued that?
I have...
Johnny's preoccupation with other peoples lives and calling them killers
has more to do with his guilt over his brother dying alone then it has to
do with abortion. :o)
Just because your gay friends die(d) alone doesn't mean that my STRAIGHT
brother died alone, *****.
Now, now. If you took such good care of your brother, why do you feel so
guilty about his death?
The more you lie in such a blatantly false manner about me and my brother
the more likely it is that the God you think I worship will strike you
down.
Wow, you sound like such a Good, True Xian!
I have never seen him tell the truth about anything and his daily rants
show he was never sane enough to take care of a dying brother. I have no
reason to believe him and I have no reason not to push him over the edge
he is teetering on. :o)
I know your death will make people happy.
Yup, a True Xian. True Xian Psychopath, I mean.
--
___________________________________________________________________________
Hail Eris! "The personal _is_ political."
Bent Depraved N. Deviant *****-Smoker, Esq., Superfaggot
"Stupidity excuses nothing. It's only a reason...." -- Phxbrd
Economic Left/Right: -7.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.38
Killfiled by: directory; Anim8rfsk
"It's not nice to misrepresent Mother Nature."
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23 Aug 2005 04:32:22 PM |
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On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 8:16:35 -0400, Johnny wrote
(in message <jljOe.5348$ZD4.3223@bignews3.bellsouth.net>):
Now we are getting somewhere...
So you blame society for your brothers death
The entire society is composed of gay men?
No, but gay men didn't kill your brother johnny, you did. You could have done
more, but you decided to anger your god and ignore his commandments. :o)
when it was your hate and your
selfish attitude that caused his death?
I did not cause his death.
Sure you did, it was your arrogance that killed him and it will be your
arrogance that causes you more pain. You pissed god off johnny. :o)
You could have done more, but you
were too busy and too self indulgent.
How, *****?
You broke your deal with god johnny, all your promises were lies and your
brother paid for it. Who's next? :o)
He lost his will to live because of
YOU.
Bull-fucking-***** you god-damned liar.
I was one of the only people who really cared about him, you GOD DAMNED
LIAR!!!!!!!!!
You cared so much that you let him die alone for your transgressions johnny.
You pissed god off and your brother paid. :o)
It's on your head,
It isn't, you GOD-DAMNED, PERVERTED, SELFISH LIAR!
You will suffer because of those lies you just made about me.
You will.
How will I suffer johnny? Are you praying for my death? god can't hear you
anymore, you broke your deal. :o)
he died all alone without your love
I was with him when he died, YOU GOD DAMNED LIAR!
Your brother died knowing that you valued your wicked ways more then you
valued his life. You could have done more johnny. :o)
and you can't change
that by being an idiot on the internet. :o)
You are the GOD-DAMNED, IGNORANT LIAR here.
Now, that is not me taking the Lord's name in vain.
Seems like you know it is johnny, but you CHOOSE to anger your god anyway.
Who will suffer next because of your transgressions johnny? :o)
--
"That too was already proven by your lack of proving I was wrong." --Osprey
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: The gag reflex |
23 Aug 2005 07:09:04 PM |
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"Ricky Ticket" <not@given.com> wrote in message
news:0001HW.BF310E44002623211D61E900@news.east.earthlink.net...
On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 8:16:35 -0400, Johnny wrote
(in message <jljOe.5348$ZD4.3223@bignews3.bellsouth.net>):
Now we are getting somewhere...
So you blame society for your brothers death
The entire society is composed of gay men?
No, but gay men didn't kill your brother johnny, you did. You could have
done
more, but you decided to anger your god and ignore his commandments. :o)
You will die.
That much is certain at this point.
when it was your hate and your
selfish attitude that caused his death?
I did not cause his death.
Sure you did, it was your arrogance that killed him and it will be your
arrogance that causes you more pain. You pissed god off johnny. :o)
You shall die.
That is certain at this point.
You could have done more, but you
were too busy and too self indulgent.
How, *****?
You broke your deal with god johnny, all your promises were lies and your
brother paid for it. Who's next? :o)
You are going to die.
I am sure of it at this point.
He lost his will to live because of
YOU.
Bull-fucking-***** you god-damned liar.
I was one of the only people who really cared about him, you GOD DAMNED
LIAR!!!!!!!!!
You cared so much that you let him die alone for your transgressions
johnny.
You pissed god off and your brother paid. :o)
It's on your head,
It isn't, you GOD-DAMNED, PERVERTED, SELFISH LIAR!
You will suffer because of those lies you just made about me.
You will.
How will I suffer johnny?
However God sees fit for you to suffer.
Any more questions?
Are you praying for my death?
No. But I would give money for you to die.
Maybe I should do that.
An offering to God so you will die.
I assume it wouldn't cost me much at all.
god can't hear you
anymore, you broke your deal. :o)
What a lie.
There is nothing that God can not see, liar.
he died all alone without your love
I was with him when he died, YOU GOD DAMNED LIAR!
Your brother died knowing that you valued your wicked ways more then you
valued his life.
What a numbskull you really are.
You could have done more johnny. :o)
*****, gay defender of the wicked.
and you can't change
that by being an idiot on the internet. :o)
You are the GOD-DAMNED, IGNORANT LIAR here.
Now, that is not me taking the Lord's name in vain.
Seems like you know it is johnny, but you CHOOSE to anger your god anyway.
Who will suffer next because of your transgressions johnny? :o)
Most likely you.
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