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16 Jul 2005 08:24:45 PM |
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The pre-born child |
The fetus is a pre-born infant, in many ways more truly an infant than
the one in arms. The word infant means one unable to speak. But the
fetus cannot even have his/her cries heard! The invisible, inaudible
infant before birth is the same infant when visible and audible after
birth. No mysterious transformations are worked by passage through
the pelvic outlet from one location to another. The baby has the same
family resemblances before birth as after birth. The infant born
prematurely at six months is no more distinct in features and traits
than another infant of the same age still inside the womb.
Though small, naked, nameless and voiceless, the fetus is characterized
by fetologists as "a young human being, dynamic, plastic, resilient,
and in a very large measure in charge of his/her environment and
destiny." By three months, fetuses are perfectly formed, thumb sized
aquanauts. They swim, somersault, suck their thumbs and imbibe
amniotic fluid. They even refuse it when bitter and take more when
sweetened. They grimace and cry when stimuli are unpleasant, obviously
aware of pain and discomfort. Their world is alive with sounds and
they respond to flashes of light. Rather than passively inhabiting the
uterus, they purposely search for comfort by readjusting their position
with each shift of their mothers' body. Modern research reveals that
it is the fetus more than the mother who directs the pregnancy and is a
dominant partner in the relationship. Unfortunately, the fetus has no
defense against violence. That is something only the loving mother can
provide.
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17 Jul 2005 01:24:51 PM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in alt.atheism
They grimace and cry when stimuli are unpleasant, obviously
aware of pain and discomfort.
Do you have some links to some sound bytes of this?
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Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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| User: "J Young" |
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17 Jul 2005 02:09:19 PM |
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Elroy Willis wrote:
Do you have some links to some sound bytes of this?
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This link will help answer all your questions.
http://www.silentscream.org/
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| User: "bob young" |
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19 Jul 2005 11:18:02 PM |
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J Young wrote:
Elroy Willis wrote:
Do you have some links to some sound bytes of this?
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This link will help answer all your questions.
http://www.silentscream.org/
Fine, so aborted humans look nasty.
Now tell us all why a god allows grossly deformed fetus, far
worse than aborted ones, sometimes with two heads, three
eyes, miniature arms and legs, they are so awful the mother
never gets to see it.
Tell us brother, the purpose that your god has for creating
these appalling creatures 'in his own image'?
No cogent response is anticipated.
Bob Young
[from the sane side pf the family]
Humanist Brit.
hong kong
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<p><font size=+2>J Young wrote:</font>
<blockquote TYPE=CITE><font size=+2>Elroy Willis wrote:</font><font size=+2></font>
<p><font size=+2>> Do you have some links to some sound bytes of this?</font>
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<p><font size=+2>This link will help answer all your questions.</font><font size=+2></font>
<p><font size=+2><a href="http://www.silentscream.org/">http://www.silentscream.org/</a></font></blockquote>
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<p><br><font size=+2>Fine, so aborted humans look nasty.</font><font size=+2></font>
<p><font size=+2>Now tell us all why a god allows grossly deformed fetus,
far worse than aborted ones, sometimes with two heads, three eyes, miniature
arms and legs, they are so awful the mother never gets to see it.</font><font size=+2></font>
<p><font size=+2>Tell us brother, the purpose that your god has for creating
these appalling creatures 'in his own image'?</font><font size=+2></font>
<p><font size=+2>No cogent response is anticipated.</font><font size=+2></font>
<p><font size=+2>Bob Young</font>
<br><font size=+2>[from the sane side pf the family]</font>
<br><font size=+2>Humanist Brit.</font>
<br><font size=+2>hong kong</font>
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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17 Jul 2005 02:35:19 PM |
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J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis wrote:
Do you have some links to some sound bytes of this?
This link will help answer all your questions.
http://www.silentscream.org/
I'm curious why the above site says it's a bad idea for children to
view it. Too gross and horrible? It seems to me that people should
be encouraging children to look at it, so they'll be so grossed out so
much that they'll decide never to support abortion or choose to have
one in the future.
Instead, what we find is just another business out to make money
by charging for a tape to gross adults out, instead of providing it
for free viewing by everyone, including children.
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Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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17 Jul 2005 04:13:11 PM |
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J Young wrote:
Elroy Willis wrote:
Do you have some links to some sound bytes of this?
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This link will help answer all your questions.
http://www.silentscream.org/
The "Silent Scream" has been debunked long ago.
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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17 Jul 2005 07:16:11 PM |
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in article 1121627359.151543.11830@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com, J Young at
youngopinions@aol.com wrote on 7/17/05 3:09 PM:
Elroy Willis wrote:
Do you have some links to some sound bytes of this?
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This link will help answer all your questions.
Saves the Pope from having to do anything...
Paul
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| User: "Ricky Ticket" |
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17 Jul 2005 11:11:46 PM |
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On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 20:16:11 -0400, Paul Duca wrote
(in message <BF006D0B.A654%p.duca@comcast.net>):
This link will help answer all your questions.
Saves the Pope from having to do anything...
Paul
The pope is busy playing hide the pervert. :o)
--
"I never admitted I lied about you or Barnes"
"Second, the criminal records of people I dug up are real. Just because
they match your name, doesn't mean I lied. I didn't." --Osprey (defending his
lies)
<snip>
"You gave me no other choice, you guys wouldn't stop with your lies and
childish name calling." --Osprey (Admitting he lied and blaming others for
his actions)
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| User: "Cracklin" |
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18 Jul 2005 01:19:23 AM |
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"Ricky Ticket" <not@given.com> wrote in message
news:0001HW.BF00A446000973882C605510@news.east.earthlink.net...
On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 20:16:11 -0400, Paul Duca wrote
(in message <BF006D0B.A654%p.duca@comcast.net>):
This link will help answer all your questions.
Saves the Pope from having to do anything...
Paul
The pope is busy playing hide the pervert. :o)
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I just read in the paper today that the RC Church had 4% of it's priests
sexually abuse children. The % may be even higher and many people will not
come forward to make reports. They want to forget what happened. I
wouldn't turn my back on a priest when a child was present. Why is the
church such a magnet for these perverts? Or does becoming a priest turn
normal men into perverts for some reason? Maybe they need to let these men
get married rather then expect them to remain loveless and sexless all their
lives.
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CR......
/
o{}xxxxx[]::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::>
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Fight for FREEDOM from religious tyranny!
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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18 Jul 2005 09:33:27 AM |
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Cracklin" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in alt.atheism
Ricky Ticket <not@given.com> wrote in message
On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 20:16:11 -0400, Paul Duca wrote
This link will help answer all your questions.
Saves the Pope from having to do anything...
The pope is busy playing hide the pervert. :o)
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I just read in the paper today that the RC Church had 4% of it's priests
sexually abuse children. The % may be even higher and many people will not
come forward to make reports. They want to forget what happened. I
wouldn't turn my back on a priest when a child was present. Why is the
church such a magnet for these perverts? Or does becoming a priest turn
normal men into perverts for some reason?
I'm sure a certain percentage of them are gay to begin with, and are
looking for a hideout in the church and priesthood. Given the RCC's
history of shuffling those priests around, it might have been seen as
a good place to go, if you wanted to keep up the pedophilia and stay
out of jail.
Maybe they need to let these men get married rather then expect them to
remain loveless and sexless all their lives.
I think that's a great idea. You'll notice that rabbis aren't
forbidden from marrying, and in fact they're actually encouraged to
marry, iirc, and I can't recall reading many news stories about Jewish
rabbis molesting children, can you?
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Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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| User: "Cracklin" |
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18 Jul 2005 07:23:13 PM |
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"Elroy Willis" <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:0lend1h7s7g8vqp3cdvclhr4fisn9rt8p7@4ax.com...
Cracklin" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in alt.atheism
Maybe they need to let these men get married rather then expect them to
remain loveless and sexless all their lives.
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I think that's a great idea. You'll notice that rabbis aren't
forbidden from marrying, and in fact they're actually encouraged to
marry, iirc, and I can't recall reading many news stories about Jewish
rabbis molesting children, can you?
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I can't recall any now that you mention it.
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CR.........
"I contend that we are both atheists, I just believe in one less god
than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all other possible gods,
then you
will know why I dismiss yours." -= Stephen F. Roberts =-
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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19 Jul 2005 07:10:50 AM |
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Cracklin' <c@c.c> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message
Cracklin" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in alt.atheism
Maybe they need to let these men get married rather then expect
them to remain loveless and sexless all their lives.
I think that's a great idea. You'll notice that rabbis aren't
forbidden from marrying, and in fact they're actually encouraged to
marry, iirc, and I can't recall reading many news stories about Jewish
rabbis molesting children, can you?
I can't recall any now that you mention it.
The RCC's stance on sex is pretty weird, imo.
Jesus' mother was supposed to be a virgin, never having had
sex when she bore him, and even Jesus is presented as never having had
sex, since he wasn't married, didn't have any children, and sex
outside of marriage is supposed to be a sin according to the RCC.
So the thought or idea that Jesus might have actually had sex with a
woman outside of marriage is probably a sin in itself. :)
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Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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| User: "quibbler" |
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18 Jul 2005 10:57:31 AM |
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In article <0lend1h7s7g8vqp3cdvclhr4fisn9rt8p7@4ax.com>,
elroywillis@swbell.net says...
and I can't recall reading many news stories about Jewish
rabbis molesting children, can you?
Except for the bible-sanctioned, ritual molestation of all male children
by the brutal act of circumcision.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "Cracklin" |
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18 Jul 2005 07:26:22 PM |
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"quibbler" <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1d457f553ad04ca99897f9@news.readfreenews.net...
In article <0lend1h7s7g8vqp3cdvclhr4fisn9rt8p7@4ax.com>,
elroywillis@swbell.net says...
and I can't recall reading many news stories about Jewish
rabbis molesting children, can you?
Except for the bible-sanctioned, ritual molestation of all male children
by the brutal act of circumcision.
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Which some people are also against. Why would a god create that part of the
male organ - then require it be cut off an infant who doesn't know any
better? An infant who had no choice? I once came across a website where
these amputations of the foreskin turned out badly...... :-(
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CR........
Yep, the sleazebags at the WTS added another 120 years to 1914. What a
hoot! :-D The poor misled JWs who were waiting for 1975 got the shaft,
then 2000, shafted again... now this. What happened to all their promised
and underlined scripture proving the generation who saw 1914 would not pass
away before "the end of this system of things?" And they claim a clear
direct line to Jehovah!!!
How can any rational person be so gullible as to swallow this obvious male
bovine excreta? This GB vomit....
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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18 Jul 2005 11:40:21 PM |
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"quibbler" <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1d457f553ad04ca99897f9@news.readfreenews.net...
In article <0lend1h7s7g8vqp3cdvclhr4fisn9rt8p7@4ax.com>,
elroywillis@swbell.net says...
and I can't recall reading many news stories about Jewish
rabbis molesting children, can you?
Except for the bible-sanctioned, ritual molestation of all male children
by the brutal act of circumcision.
Ah, then no molestation, as circumcision isn't a "brutal act of molestation"
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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19 Jul 2005 07:31:11 AM |
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quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in alt.atheism
elroywillis@swbell.net says...
and I can't recall reading many news stories about Jewish
rabbis molesting children, can you?
Except for the bible-sanctioned, ritual molestation of all male children
by the brutal act of circumcision.
You consider the mohelim as child molesters?
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Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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19 Jul 2005 08:50:16 AM |
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"Elroy Willis" <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:8trpd1hcut54982o819r96f4vmam70s6lm@4ax.com...
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in alt.atheism
elroywillis@swbell.net says...
and I can't recall reading many news stories about Jewish
rabbis molesting children, can you?
Except for the bible-sanctioned, ritual molestation of all male children
by the brutal act of circumcision.
You consider the mohelim as child molesters?
The really rabid ones do, yes.
Susan
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| User: "quibbler" |
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19 Jul 2005 11:14:42 PM |
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In article <8trpd1hcut54982o819r96f4vmam70s6lm@4ax.com>,
elroywillis@swbell.net says...
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in alt.atheism
elroywillis@swbell.net says...
and I can't recall reading many news stories about Jewish
rabbis molesting children, can you?
Except for the bible-sanctioned, ritual molestation of all male children
by the brutal act of circumcision.
You consider the mohelim as child molesters?
I doubt that most are doing it to get their sexual jollies from it,
though there may be a few who are sadists and pedophiles. It is still
brutal and still "molests" children, in the sense that it violently
interferes with their bodies and their sexual organs in involuntary
ways. I wonder very much about whether this tradition has its root in
even more extreme forms of abuse.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "Ricky Ticket" |
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20 Jul 2005 03:43:24 AM |
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On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 0:14:42 -0400, quibbler wrote
(in message <MPG.1d477d9af9d975ef989805@news.readfreenews.net>):
You consider the mohelim as child molesters?
I doubt that most are doing it to get their sexual jollies from it
Why would you doubt that anyone putting their mouth on the genitals of a
child is doing so ONLY for the wrong reasons? It has nothing to do with a
medical procedure.
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"This was exactly the opportunity I was waiting for. This will prove how much
of a coward you are." --Osprey
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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20 Jul 2005 06:41:45 AM |
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quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in alt.atheism
elroywillis@swbell.net says...
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in alt.atheism
elroywillis@swbell.net says...
and I can't recall reading many news stories about Jewish
rabbis molesting children, can you?
Except for the bible-sanctioned, ritual molestation of all male children
by the brutal act of circumcision.
You consider the mohelim as child molesters?
I doubt that most are doing it to get their sexual jollies from it,
though there may be a few who are sadists and pedophiles. It is still
brutal and still "molests" children, in the sense that it violently
interferes with their bodies and their sexual organs in involuntary
ways. I wonder very much about whether this tradition has its root in
even more extreme forms of abuse.
The link which describes the Mohel actually licking or sucking the
blood from the baby's penis is pretty frickin' gross to me. I wonder
if that's actually a standard part of the ritual these days. If it
is, I'd have to think about changing that part of it, if I were a
Mohel. The link said that if a Mohel refused to do it that he'd be
fired, so I wonder how many of them do it just to keep their
jobs?
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Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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20 Jul 2005 06:47:41 AM |
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"Elroy Willis" <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:e5dsd1por63hsvdsstkq1cdef5k9ptg8bu@4ax.com...
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in alt.atheism
elroywillis@swbell.net says...
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in alt.atheism
elroywillis@swbell.net says...
and I can't recall reading many news stories about Jewish
rabbis molesting children, can you?
Except for the bible-sanctioned, ritual molestation of all male
children
by the brutal act of circumcision.
You consider the mohelim as child molesters?
I doubt that most are doing it to get their sexual jollies from it,
though there may be a few who are sadists and pedophiles. It is still
brutal and still "molests" children, in the sense that it violently
interferes with their bodies and their sexual organs in involuntary
ways. I wonder very much about whether this tradition has its root in
even more extreme forms of abuse.
The link which describes the Mohel actually licking or sucking the
blood from the baby's penis is pretty frickin' gross to me.
It's meant to be.
The link is a virulently anti-Jewish site.
But note that the link was not written by anyone with actual knowledge of
the bris milah, and that the picture doesn't portray what it's purported to.
I wonder
if that's actually a standard part of the ritual these days.
Of course not.
If it
is, I'd have to think about changing that part of it, if I were a
Mohel.
Luckily. you will never have to make this decision.
The link said that if a Mohel refused to do it that he'd be
fired, so I wonder how many of them do it just to keep their
jobs?
The link lies.
Susan
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20 Jul 2005 03:23:16 PM |
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On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 7:47:41 -0400, Susan Cohen wrote
(in message <xRqDe.18241$ph1.16973@trnddc06>):
It's meant to be.
The link is a virulently anti-Jewish site.
Typical religious bull *****. Any truth is disregarded as an attack. I guess
the law and the courts and the papers also made up this...
http://www.littlegeneva.com/badlands/index.php?p=305
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³Normally I would never consider using that term, but in your case..you
deserve it. Dont' cry about it, you asked to be called *****.² --Robert
Heishman (AKA Osprey)
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20 Jul 2005 11:03:24 PM |
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"Ricky Ticket" <not@given.com> wrote in message
news:0001HW.BF042AFB000219C92C332FB0@news.east.earthlink.net...
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 7:47:41 -0400, Susan Cohen wrote
(in message <xRqDe.18241$ph1.16973@trnddc06>):
It's meant to be.
The link is a virulently anti-Jewish site.
Typical religious bull *****.
Yes, you are spouting exactly that.
Any truth is disregarded as an attack.
And yet another lie.
there is no truth on that site, as you kew when you posted it.
If it were not so, you wolnd't have to throw the word "hooker" at me for no
reason other than to try to bully me into running away from you.
I guess
the law and the courts and the papers also made up this...
http://www.littlegeneva.com/badlands/index.php?p=305
Funny how they also say you lie:
"Fischer uses a practice little known outside ultra-Orthodox communities
called metzizah bi peh, in which the mohel uses his mouth."
IOW, it is NOT what you opretend it is - i.e., "standard".
Susan
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21 Jul 2005 02:17:50 PM |
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On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 0:03:24 -0400, Susan Cohen wrote
(in message <g8FDe.11396$JJ.6488@trnddc09>):
there is no truth on that site, as you kew when you posted it.
Liar, is that allowed in the jewish religion too? Baby ***** sucking seems OK,
why not lies? :o)
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/277069p-237314c.html
http://www.sexuallymutilatedchild.org/mohel.htm
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"This was exactly the opportunity I was waiting for. This will prove how much
of a coward you are." --Osprey
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| User: "øéòéï áøúåïý/Riain Barton" |
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20 Jul 2005 12:14:09 PM |
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One pre-born child does exist, and it is Jerk-Off YOUNG.
"Susan Cohen" <flavia18@verizon.net> wrote in message
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20 Jul 2005 03:21:34 PM |
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On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 7:41:45 -0400, Elroy Willis wrote
(in message <e5dsd1por63hsvdsstkq1cdef5k9ptg8bu@4ax.com>):
The link which describes the Mohel actually licking or sucking the
blood from the baby's penis is pretty frickin' gross to me. I wonder
if that's actually a standard part of the ritual these days.
It is, people like Susan choose to put up a smoke screen instead of
protecting children. ;o)
http://www.littlegeneva.com/badlands/index.php?p=305
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"And Donald, mother of all cowards, has the courage to speak after he runs
and hides???" --Osprey
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: The pre-born child |
20 Jul 2005 10:59:05 PM |
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"Ricky Ticket" <not@given.com> wrote in message
news:0001HW.BF042A95000201D92C332FB0@news.east.earthlink.net...
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 7:41:45 -0400, Elroy Willis wrote
(in message <e5dsd1por63hsvdsstkq1cdef5k9ptg8bu@4ax.com>):
The link which describes the Mohel actually licking or sucking the
blood from the baby's penis is pretty frickin' gross to me.
This link lies, as I pointed out in other posts.
I wonder
if that's actually a standard part of the ritual these days.
It is,
You lie, again.
people like Susan choose to put up a smoke screen instead of
protecting children. ;o)
Do you really think that adding a Smiley to your lies is going to give a
loophole when they are exposed? that you will be able to say "Oh, I was just
kidding?"
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| User: "Ricky Ticket" |
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| Title: Re: The pre-born child |
21 Jul 2005 02:15:26 PM |
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On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 23:59:05 -0400, Susan Cohen wrote
(in message <d4FDe.11395$JJ.3254@trnddc09>):
This link lies, as I pointed out in other posts.
You pointed out nothing and you refuted nothing, you made an arrogant claim
that I proved was a lie by showing this disgusting practice is going on and
harming babies. Are lying to cover up this sick practice, or are you
declaring the news article a lie also? :o)
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/277069p-237314c.html
http://www.sexuallymutilatedchild.org/mohel.htm
Do you really think that adding a Smiley to your lies is going to give a
loophole when they are exposed? that you will be able to say "Oh, I was just
kidding?"
No, that's me laughing at you dufus. :o)
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"You run too much mouth in here and try to act like a big person behind the
computer screen. True sign of a coward." --Osprey
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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| Title: Re: The pre-born child |
21 Jul 2005 08:36:32 AM |
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Ricky Ticket <not@given.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis wrote
The link which describes the Mohel actually licking or sucking the
blood from the baby's penis is pretty frickin' gross to me. I wonder
if that's actually a standard part of the ritual these days.
It is, people like Susan choose to put up a smoke screen instead of
protecting children. ;o)
http://www.littlegeneva.com/badlands/index.php?p=305
I feel sorry for the people who are too weak to abandon and speak out
against barbaric superstitious rituals. At the same time, I feel like
I shouldn't really feel sorry for them at all, but rather consider
them as cowards, not worthy of pity at all...
--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: The pre-born child |
21 Jul 2005 05:12:34 PM |
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"Elroy Willis" <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:b09vd1dnfcmlr7oe9epkor9kgq1e46t1cg@4ax.com...
Ricky Ticket <not@given.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis wrote
The link which describes the Mohel actually licking or sucking the
blood from the baby's penis is pretty frickin' gross to me. I wonder
if that's actually a standard part of the ritual these days.
It is, people like Susan choose to put up a smoke screen instead of
protecting children. ;o)
http://www.littlegeneva.com/badlands/index.php?p=305
I feel sorry for the people who are too weak to abandon and speak out
against barbaric superstitious rituals.
I feel ever sorrier for people who lie about JJws & then pretend they have
any right to moral superiority.
I was wondering how long it would take you to earn yet another slot in the
killfile.
Susan
At the same time, I feel like
I shouldn't really feel sorry for them at all, but rather consider
them as cowards, not worthy of pity at all...
--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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| User: "Ricky Ticket" |
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| Title: Re: The pre-born child |
22 Jul 2005 01:47:40 AM |
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On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 18:12:34 -0400, Susan Cohen wrote
(in message <m5VDe.11586$JJ.1100@trnddc09>):
"Elroy Willis" <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:b09vd1dnfcmlr7oe9epkor9kgq1e46t1cg@4ax.com...
Ricky Ticket <not@given.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis wrote
The link which describes the Mohel actually licking or sucking the
blood from the baby's penis is pretty frickin' gross to me. I wonder
if that's actually a standard part of the ritual these days.
It is, people like Susan choose to put up a smoke screen instead of
protecting children. ;o)
http://www.littlegeneva.com/badlands/index.php?p=305
I feel sorry for the people who are too weak to abandon and speak out
against barbaric superstitious rituals.
I feel ever sorrier for people who lie about JJws & then pretend they have
any right to moral superiority.
I was wondering how long it would take you to earn yet another slot in the
killfile.
Susan
At the same time, I feel like
I shouldn't really feel sorry for them at all, but rather consider
them as cowards, not worthy of pity at all...
--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
Keep that head in the sand Susan while YOUR religious "leaders" rape babies
and give them STD's.
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³Get off the crack *****.² --Robert Heishman (AKA Osprey)
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