Science > Abortion > The "Pro-choice" Movement: Abortion Safe, Legal And As Often As Possible
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The "Pro-choice" Movement: Abortion Safe, Legal And As Often As Possible |
http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/benshapiro/2005/11/30/177147.html
The pro-choice movement: Safe, legal and as often as possible
Nov 30, 2005
by Ben Shapiro
A A Dr. William F. Harrison of Arkansas calls himself an "abortionist."
"I am destroying life," he proclaims. But Harrison, who estimates that
he has aborted over 20,000 unborn children, also sees abortion as a
life-giving procedure, describing his patients as "born again." "When
you end what the woman considers a disastrous pregnancy, she has
literally been given her life back," he proudly states. Harrison's goal
is to "try to make sure [a woman who chooses abortion] doesn't ever
feel guilty for what she feels she has to do."
Dr. George Tiller of Kansas has terminated over 60,000 pregnancies;
his website brags that the good doctor's clinic has "more experience in
late abortion services over 24 weeks than anyone else currently
practicing in the Western Hemisphere, Europe and Australia." Most
babies are considered viable (that is, can live outside the womb with
the help of medical technology) at 23-24 weeks. These are viable,
living children.
Dr. Dennis Christensen of Wisconsin, who has aborted between 80,000
and 100,000 fetuses, celebrates his career as a moral good. "When I
meet my maker," he grins, "I think she's going to say, 'Way to go!'"
Current liberal thought posits that abortion should be "safe, legal
and rare" in the words of former president Bill Clinton. Only by
stipulating that abortion should remain "rare" can liberal politicians
escape popular outrage. Yet these same politicians refuse to answer
just why abortion should remain rare. If abortion is a moral good under
any circumstances (as abortion-on-demand advocates declare), why should
it remain rare? And if keeping abortion rare is a rational goal, why
should state governments be barred from taking steps to discourage
abortion?
The fact of the matter is that mainstream pro-choice liberals are
lying through their teeth when they mouth the "safe, legal and rare"
mantra. Abortionists are celebrated as heroes, no matter what type of
abortions they perform. The Los Angeles Times' glowing profile of Dr.
Harrison ends with a description of the doctor's solemn determination
to "keep at it as long as his stamina holds, or as long as it is
legal." The National Abortion Federation (NAF), dedicated to unfettered
access to abortion, awarded Dr. Tiller its prestigious Christopher
Tietze Humanitarian Award. Incredibly, New York Times Magazine
describes the NAF as "a mini-AMA" (American Medical Association). Of
course, the difference between the AMA and the NAF is as simple as the
distinction between preserving life and destroying it, but to the
pro-choice crowd, all medical procedures are equal.
The pro-choice crowd has never wanted abortion to be rare. Were
abortion rare, women considering abortions would feel subtle societal
pressure to preserve the life growing within them. Such societal
pressure would create a "coercive" environment for women, inhibiting
their ability to choose. For abortion to thrive, it must be common.
With abortion statistics shockingly high (25 percent of pregnant women
abort their babies, and one third of women will have an abortion by age
45), abortionists and their advocates can make women who abort feel
accepted. At Dr. Harrison's office, abortion statistics are posted on
the exam-room mirror; a nurse rhetorically asks, "You think there's
room in hell for all those women?" Of course, no religion has ever
considered a population cap on Divine punishment -- surely, there is
room in hell for whomever God chooses to place there. But the nurse's
point is simple: You are not alone.
And the message works, as Harrison's patient "Amanda" demonstrates.
According to the LA Times, Amanda, a 20-year-old administrative
assistant, says it's not the obstacles that surprise her -- it's how
normal and unashamed she feels as she prepares to end her first
pregnancy. 'It's an everyday occurrence,' she says as she waits for her
2:30 p.m. abortion. 'It's not like this is a rare thing ... It's not
like it's illegal. It's not like I'm doing anything wrong.'"
This is the pro-choice agenda. For pro-choice activists, abortion is a
good in and of itself. It allows a woman to exercise her "freedom of
choice" at any time. Context does not matter; moral gradation does not
matter; timing does not matter. The high school volleyball player who
aborts her child because she does not want to ruin her body for nine
months -- "I realize just from the first three months how it changes
everything" -- is just as valid as the woman who aborts because her
life is seriously endangered by pregnancy. Abortion must remain an
absolute right, commonly exercised, if women are to be truly free.
For years, pro-life advocates have described their opponents as
pro-abortion. After viewing the pro-choice movement's support for
across-the-board abortions, that description seems apt.
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06 Jan 2006 11:22:42 PM |
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On 6 Jan 2006 16:59:39 -0800, "words of truth" <truth760@lycos.com>
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Of course, no religion has ever
considered a population cap on Divine punishment -- surely, there is
room in hell for whomever God chooses to place there.
Presumably, that would include those like you, who wilfully violate
the Commandment against bearing false witness time and again.
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"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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06 Jan 2006 08:35:26 PM |
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words of truth <truth760@lycos.com> wrote:
http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/benshapiro/2005/11/30/177147.html
The pro-choice movement: Safe, legal and as often as possible
Why is it that pro-liars have to resort to such transparent lies? In
fact it is the abortion opponents who work to ensure that more women
need abortions. It is the pro-liar hypocrites who block sex
education and block contraceptives.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Malcolm" |
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07 Jan 2006 11:11:18 AM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote
The pro-choice movement: Safe, legal and as often as possible
Why is it that pro-liars have to resort to such transparent lies? In
fact it is the abortion opponents who work to ensure that more women
need abortions. It is the pro-liar hypocrites who block sex
education and block contraceptives.
There can't be a woman in Britain or the US who hasn't heard of the pill and
condom.
If you use both, the chance of accidental conception is tiny.
Now we would expect a few women to want abortions nevertheless - for
instance if the child is handicapped, or if economic circumstances change
between conception and birth, and there will be a tiny handful who don't use
the contraceptives properly. But one in three births? What do you think is
going on here?
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07 Jan 2006 12:21:12 PM |
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"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote
The pro-choice movement: Safe, legal and as often as possible
Why is it that pro-liars have to resort to such transparent lies? In
fact it is the abortion opponents who work to ensure that more women
need abortions. It is the pro-liar hypocrites who block sex
education and block contraceptives.
There can't be a woman in Britain or the US who hasn't heard of the pill
and condom.
If you use both, the chance of accidental conception is tiny.
Well I found out during a sex ed class......
What about those who are being deliberately told that they don't work or
told nothing at all and to simply wait for marriage?
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| User: "Malcolm" |
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07 Jan 2006 01:04:11 PM |
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"kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote
There can't be a woman in Britain or the US who hasn't heard of the pill
and condom.
If you use both, the chance of accidental conception is tiny.
Well I found out during a sex ed class......
What about those who are being deliberately told that they don't work or
told nothing at all and to simply wait for marriage?
I'm British rather than American, and I went to a Catholic school where
there was no sex education about contraceptives.
However everyone knew that the church banned contraceptives, in sixth form
(16-18) it was discussed, and everyone had access to newspapers and
magazines. For instance The Times has a weekly "sexual health" column in
which these matters come up. It is very hard to live in modern Britain
without finding out what a condom is.
There might be a few very traditional women who are sheltered from this sort
of stuff, Orthodox Jewish women who live in closed communities and the like,
but I would not expect these women to be the ones seeking abortions.
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| User: "Mimi Cohen" |
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07 Jan 2006 06:03:42 PM |
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Malcolm wrote:
"kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote
There can't be a woman in Britain or the US who hasn't heard of the pill
and condom.
If you use both, the chance of accidental conception is tiny.
Well I found out during a sex ed class......
What about those who are being deliberately told that they don't work or
told nothing at all and to simply wait for marriage?
I'm British rather than American, and I went to a Catholic school where
there was no sex education about contraceptives.
Well that explains your ignorance of their failure rates.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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07 Jan 2006 01:56:47 PM |
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Malcolm <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote
The pro-choice movement: Safe, legal and as often as possible
Why is it that pro-liars have to resort to such transparent lies? In
fact it is the abortion opponents who work to ensure that more women
need abortions. It is the pro-liar hypocrites who block sex
education and block contraceptives.
There can't be a woman in Britain or the US who hasn't heard of the pill and
condom.
Sure there can.
If you use both, the chance of accidental conception is tiny.
And? That doesn't alter the fact that the very same people who are
opposed to abortion are also opposed to methods that might reduce the
need for abortion.
The obvious conclusion is that abortion opponents are really
interested in punishing women who have sex.
Now we would expect a few women to want abortions nevertheless - for
instance if the child is handicapped, or if economic circumstances change
between conception and birth, and there will be a tiny handful who don't use
the contraceptives properly. But one in three births? What do you think is
going on here?
Because the have been influenced by the anti-sex puritanism women probably
don't like planning for sex.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Mimi Cohen" |
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07 Jan 2006 06:02:15 PM |
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Malcolm wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote
The pro-choice movement: Safe, legal and as often as possible
Why is it that pro-liars have to resort to such transparent lies? In
fact it is the abortion opponents who work to ensure that more women
need abortions. It is the pro-liar hypocrites who block sex
education and block contraceptives.
There can't be a woman in Britain or the US who hasn't heard of the pill and
condom.
If you use both, the chance of accidental conception is tiny.
Now we would expect a few women to want abortions nevertheless - for
instance if the child is handicapped, or if economic circumstances change
between conception and birth, and there will be a tiny handful who don't use
the contraceptives properly. But one in three births? What do you think is
going on here?
You really don't know the first thing about contraceptives and their
failure rates, do you?
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| User: "raven1" |
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07 Jan 2006 12:11:17 PM |
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On Sat, 7 Jan 2006 17:11:18 +0000 (UTC), "Malcolm"
<regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote
The pro-choice movement: Safe, legal and as often as possible
Why is it that pro-liars have to resort to such transparent lies? In
fact it is the abortion opponents who work to ensure that more women
need abortions. It is the pro-liar hypocrites who block sex
education and block contraceptives.
There can't be a woman in Britain or the US who hasn't heard of the pill and
condom.
If you use both, the chance of accidental conception is tiny.
Now we would expect a few women to want abortions nevertheless - for
instance if the child is handicapped, or if economic circumstances change
between conception and birth, and there will be a tiny handful who don't use
the contraceptives properly. But one in three births? What do you think is
going on here?
A concerted effort by the right wing in the US to block education
about, and access to, effective means of contraception would be a good
starting point to explore from. The Bush Administration wants teens
taught about sexuality from an "abstinence only" perspective.
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"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
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| User: "Crusader" |
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08 Jan 2006 03:03:43 AM |
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Why is it that fags are discussing women issues?
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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words of truth <truth760@lycos.com> wrote:
http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/benshapiro/2005/11/30/177147.html
The pro-choice movement: Safe, legal and as often as possible
Why is it that pro-liars have to resort to such transparent lies? In
fact it is the abortion opponents who work to ensure that more women
need abortions. It is the pro-liar hypocrites who block sex
education and block contraceptives.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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08 Jan 2006 05:43:50 PM |
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Why do women have no issue with you?
Paul
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08 Jan 2006 05:56:30 PM |
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"Paul Duca" <p.duca@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Why do women have no issue with you?
http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&lr=&rls=GGLG,GGLG:2005-46,GGLG:en&q=abortion&near=San+Francisco,+CA&sa=X&oi=localr
Paul
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08 Jan 2006 06:02:33 PM |
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Johnny wrote:
"Paul Duca" <p.duca@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Why do women have no issue with you?
http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&lr=&rls=GGLG,GGLG:2005-46,GGLG:en&q=abortion&near=San+Francisco,+CA&sa=X&oi=localr
I take it that you cannot answer the questions then. That map is
meaningless in context, and does not explain anything.
Mark Sebree
Paul
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08 Jan 2006 06:03:40 PM |
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Johnny wrote:
"Paul Duca" <p.duca@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Why do women have no issue with you?
http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&lr=&rls=GGLG,GGLG:2005-46,GGLG:en&q=abortion&near=San+Francisco,+CA&sa=X&oi=localr
I take it that you cannot answer the questions then. That map is
meaningless in context, and does not explain anything.
Mark Sebree
Paul
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| User: "Abel" |
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14 Jan 2006 11:10:06 PM |
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Keep on with
the good work!
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
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"Paul Duca" <p.duca@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Why do women have no issue with you?
http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&lr=&rls=GGLG,GGLG:2005-46,GGLG:en&q=abortion&near=San+Francisco,+CA&sa=X&oi=localr
Paul
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15 Jan 2006 08:08:54 AM |
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in article %Lkyf.40892$0y2.3422@bignews2.bellsouth.net, Abel at
abel@tinored.cu wrote on 1/15/06 12:10 AM:
Keep on with
the good work! Maybe we'll wife swap in Heaven!
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
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"Paul Duca" <p.duca@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Why do women have no issue with you?
http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&lr=&rls=GGLG,GGLG:2005-46,GGLG:en&q=abortio
n&near=San+Francisco,+CA&sa=X&oi=localr
Paul
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14 Jan 2006 11:09:44 PM |
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You reflecting your own pathetic forthcomings on me?
"Paul Duca" <p.duca@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Why do women have no issue with you?
Paul
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08 Jan 2006 12:15:21 PM |
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"Crusader" <white@xyz.com> wrote in message
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Why is it that fags are discussing women issues?
If San Francisco voted 80 percent against parental notification for girls
under 18 who seek abortions, does that mean that gays are hiding behind
their 'gay' label and having sex with minor women?
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
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words of truth <truth760@lycos.com> wrote:
http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/benshapiro/2005/11/30/177147.html
The pro-choice movement: Safe, legal and as often as possible
Why is it that pro-liars have to resort to such transparent lies? In
fact it is the abortion opponents who work to ensure that more women
need abortions. It is the pro-liar hypocrites who block sex
education and block contraceptives.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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08 Jan 2006 12:22:15 PM |
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"Crusader" <white@xyz.com> wrote in message
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Why is it that fags are discussing women issues?
They make money on it:
http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&lr=&rls=GGLG,GGLG:2005-46,GGLG:en&q=abortion&near=San+Francisco,+CA&sa=X&oi=localr
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08 Jan 2006 01:39:18 PM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
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"Crusader" <white@xyz.com> wrote in message
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Why is it that fags are discussing women issues?
They make money on it:
Dude, just check out how much revenue the average pregnancy
makes for health care providers, compare that to how much the
average abortion makes, and get back to us.
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| User: "Johnny" |
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08 Jan 2006 01:46:07 PM |
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"shrikeback" <hewpiedawg@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
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"Crusader" <white@xyz.com> wrote in message
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Why is it that fags are discussing women issues?
They make money on it:
Dude, just check out how much revenue the average pregnancy
makes for health care providers, compare that to how much the
average abortion makes, and get back to us.
Why don't you do it?
http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&lr=&rls=GGLG,GGLG:2005-46,GGLG:en&q=abortion&near=San+Francisco,+CA&sa=X&oi=localr
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08 Jan 2006 05:45:52 PM |
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Johnny wrote:
"shrikeback" <hewpiedawg@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
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"Crusader" <white@xyz.com> wrote in message
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Why is it that fags are discussing women issues?
They make money on it:
Dude, just check out how much revenue the average pregnancy
makes for health care providers, compare that to how much the
average abortion makes, and get back to us.
Why don't you do it?
We already know. You, however, do not seem to know. That is why you
were asked to do your own research.
However, since you have never shown any ability to do any intelligent
research, I will give you the basic numbers.
http://womensissues.about.com/cs/abortionissues/a/blunaborcost.htm
"The cost of an abortion depends on the stage of pregnancy and which
clinic is providing services. First trimester procedures run about
$400-600. Second trimester procedures cost $500-5000."
http://www.surebaby.com/costs.php
"Don't forget about the delivery! It easily costs between
$5,000-$8,000 for a normal vaginal delivery, up to $12,000 for a
cesarean delivery and much more if there are complications. "
These are the costs paid to the clinic, hospital, or whomever is
providing the services. Everyone makes more money off of a full term
delivery than on an abortion, and there are more completed pregnancies
than there are abortions. Therefore, it is easy to see that it is more
profitable to have the woman complete her pregnancy. And therefore,
money cannot be the primary motive for doctors providing abortions,
since these same ones are also doing deliveries. (OB/GYN specialists)
http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&lr=&rls=GGLG,GGLG:2005-46,GGLG:en&q=abortion&near=San+Francisco,+CA&sa=X&oi=localr
What exactly is that map supposed to show? San Francisco is a major
city in a state that appreciates and supports civil and human rights.
Women's clinics have less to fear there, so doctors are more willing to
provide abortions, and thus more clinics are willing to offer those
services.
Mark Sebree
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08 Jan 2006 05:50:32 PM |
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in article %Icwf.8393$__4.1453@bignews1.bellsouth.net, Johnny at
wxpprofessional@msn.com wrote on 1/8/06 1:22 PM:
"Crusader" <white@xyz.com> wrote in message
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Why is it that fags are discussing women issues?
They make money on it:
Who do you use to put money in your pocket, Johnny?
Paul
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| User: "Johnny" |
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08 Jan 2006 05:56:03 PM |
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"Paul Duca" <p.duca@comcast.net> wrote in message
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in article %Icwf.8393$__4.1453@bignews1.bellsouth.net, Johnny at
wxpprofessional@msn.com wrote on 1/8/06 1:22 PM:
"Crusader" <white@xyz.com> wrote in message
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Why is it that fags are discussing women issues?
They make money on it:
Who do you use to put money in your pocket, Johnny?
http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&lr=&rls=GGLG,GGLG:2005-46,GGLG:en&q=abortion&near=San+Francisco,+CA&sa=X&oi=localr
Paul
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: The "Pro-Liar" Movement: Abortion Dangerous, Illegal And AsOften As Possible |
08 Jan 2006 09:59:17 PM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Paul Duca" <p.duca@comcast.net> wrote in message
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in article %Icwf.8393$__4.1453@bignews1.bellsouth.net, Johnny at
wxpprofessional@msn.com wrote on 1/8/06 1:22 PM:
"Crusader" <white@xyz.com> wrote in message
news:Jw4wf.102332$k76.76568@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
Why is it that fags are discussing women issues?
They make money on it:
Who do you use to put money in your pocket, Johnny?
http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&lr=&rls=GGLG,GGLG:2005-46,GGLG:en&q=abortion&near=San+Francisco,+CA&sa=X&oi=localr
Really? You *are* paying California state income tax on that, I hope...and
reporting all of it to the IRS, right?
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Grand Rapids 6, Houston 5 (January 6)
NEXT GAME: Tuesday, January 10 vs. Toronto, 7:35
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| User: "Abel" |
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| Title: Re: The "Pro-Liar" Movement: Abortion Dangerous, Illegal And AsOften As Possible |
14 Jan 2006 11:05:36 PM |
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I`ll bet isn`t murdering human beings.........like abortionist DO.......
"Paul Duca" <p.duca@comcast.net> wrote in message
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in article %Icwf.8393$__4.1453@bignews1.bellsouth.net, Johnny at
wxpprofessional@msn.com wrote on 1/8/06 1:22 PM:
"Crusader" <white@xyz.com> wrote in message
news:Jw4wf.102332$k76.76568@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
Why is it that fags are discussing women issues?
They make money on it:
Who do you use to put money in your pocket, Johnny?
Paul
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: The "Pro-Liar" Movement: Abortion Dangerous, Illegal And AsOften As Possible |
15 Jan 2006 05:09:33 PM |
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On 15-Jan-2006, "Abel" <abel@tinored.cu> wrote:
I`ll bet isn`t murdering human beings.........like abortionist DO.......
You mean "ARE".
Susan
"Paul Duca" <p.duca@comcast.net> wrote in message
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in article %Icwf.8393$__4.1453@bignews1.bellsouth.net, Johnny at
wxpprofessional@msn.com wrote on 1/8/06 1:22 PM:
"Crusader" <white@xyz.com> wrote in message
news:Jw4wf.102332$k76.76568@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
Why is it that fags are discussing women issues?
They make money on it:
Who do you use to put money in your pocket, Johnny?
Paul
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: The "Pro-Liar" Movement: Abortion Dangerous, Illegal And As Often As Possible |
08 Jan 2006 03:17:56 PM |
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On 8-Jan-2006, "Crusader" <white@xyz.com> wrote:
Why is it that fags are discussing women issues?
I figure it's because you are fascist in nature.
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| User: "Abel" |
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| Title: Re: The "Pro-Liar" Movement: Abortion Dangerous, Illegal And As Often As Possible |
14 Jan 2006 11:07:58 PM |
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If i`m a fascist for protectring the unborn you are a ????? for murdering
them?Zionazi,communist, satanist atheist,what?
<flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message
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On 8-Jan-2006, "Crusader" <white@xyz.com> wrote:
Why is it that fags are discussing women issues?
I figure it's because you are fascist in nature.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: The "Pro-Liar" Movement: Abortion Dangerous, Illegal And As Often As Possible |
15 Jan 2006 12:27:59 AM |
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Abel <abel@tinored.cu> wrote:
If i`m a fascist for protectring the unborn you are a ????? for murdering
them?Zionazi,communist, satanist atheist,what?
But you're not protecting anything. You're demanding obedience and
servitude from women.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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