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The Roman Road... |
http://home.pacific.net.sg/~timshen/saved.htm
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Love...keeps no record of wrongs. Love...always hopes, always perseveres.
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04 May 2004 07:32:23 PM |
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":::vera:::" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote in message
news:c76jfq$di3h$1@ID-223228.news.uni-berlin.de...
Love...keeps no record of wrongs. Love...always hopes, always perseveres.
(1 Corinthians 13:4-7, NIV)
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And yet your god had whole cities leveled and every living thing
slaughtered - EXCEPT for the young virgins. Imagine that. He told them to
keep these young virgins for their own *use* meaning to rape and sexually
abuse them.
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FP.........
Numbers 31:17-18 God commands Moses to kill all the Medianite people
including children and women. To top it off he commands that the virgins be
saved for later raping by Moses' soldiers.
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04 May 2004 08:34:59 PM |
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"Flower Power" <noCHAUVINISTS@womans.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:EeWdnRF_ffiDqwXdRVn-ug@heartoftn.net...
":::vera:::" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote in message
news:c76jfq$di3h$1@ID-223228.news.uni-berlin.de...
Love...keeps no record of wrongs. Love...always hopes, always perseveres.
(1 Corinthians 13:4-7, NIV)
===========================
And yet your god had whole cities leveled and every living thing
slaughtered - EXCEPT for the young virgins. Imagine that. He told them to
keep these young virgins for their own *use* meaning to rape and sexually
abuse them.
--
FP.........
Numbers 31:17-18 God commands Moses to kill all the Medianite people
including children and women. To top it off he commands that the virgins be
saved for later raping by Moses' soldiers.
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He never told me that. Maybe you still stick to the Old Testament?
Hey, wake up! Jesus Christus has dies for our sins, there is no need to live
under that old law...
::: vera :::
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Love...keeps no record of wrongs. Love...always hopes, always perseveres.
(1 Corinthians 13:4-7, NIV)
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05 May 2004 01:35:20 AM |
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":::vera:::" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote in message
news:c79gc8$1avk6$1@ID-223228.news.uni-berlin.de...
He never told me that. Maybe you still stick to the Old Testament?
* Maybe YOU need to read the OT and not skip any pages to see what this
ancient Hebrew god was really like.
Hey, wake up! Jesus Christus has dies for our sins,
* Because this blood-thirsty god refused to forgive an unevolved female
hominid for being beguilded and fooled by a talking snake. Give me a break.
Check this out:
Creation "Science" Debunked:
http://www.geocities.com/lflank
DebunkCreation Email list:
http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/DebunkCreation
there is no need to live
under that old law...
* Who's living under the old law? Read the OT to see what a vicious,
unpredictable killer your god is. I didn't suggest you live by the Jewish
law.
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FP........
Numbers 31:17-18 God commands Moses to kill all the Medianite people
including children and women. To top it off he commands that the virgins be
saved for later raping by Moses' soldiers.
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07 May 2004 04:23:15 PM |
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"Flower Power" <ChauvinistFree@womens.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:N4adnaX_BMWvFgXd4p2dnA@heartoftn.net...
":::vera:::" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote in message
news:c79gc8$1avk6$1@ID-223228.news.uni-berlin.de...
He never told me that. Maybe you still stick to the Old Testament?
* Maybe YOU need to read the OT and not skip any pages to see what this
ancient Hebrew god was really like.
Hey, wake up! Jesus Christus has dies for our sins,
* Because this blood-thirsty god refused to forgive an unevolved female
hominid for being beguilded and fooled by a talking snake. Give me a break.
Check this out:
Creation "Science" Debunked:
http://www.geocities.com/lflank
DebunkCreation Email list:
http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/DebunkCreation
Do you really believe in such a nonsense? Oh dear...
there is no need to live
under that old law...
* Who's living under the old law? Read the OT to see what a vicious,
unpredictable killer your god is. I didn't suggest you live by the Jewish
law.
That is right, I do not. My God is Jesus Christ and His Father in Heaven, and
Jesus is still on earth, represented by the Holy Spirit.
My God preached us peace, and turn the other cheak. I must confess, I do not
always succeed... But I am on my way, while you have not started yet.
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FP........
Numbers 31:17-18 God commands Moses to kill all the Medianite people
including children and women. To top it off he commands that the virgins be
saved for later raping by Moses' soldiers.
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::: vera :::
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"Do you need proof of God? - Does one light a torch to see the sun?" (Tom in ACC)
"Growing Deeper" on
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| User: "Flower Power" |
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07 May 2004 08:41:08 PM |
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":::vera:::" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote in message
news:2g2d29F3tojqU1@uni-berlin.de...
"Flower Power" <ChauvinistFree@womens.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:N4adnaX_BMWvFgXd4p2dnA@heartoftn.net...
":::vera:::" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote in message
news:c79gc8$1avk6$1@ID-223228.news.uni-berlin.de...
He never told me that. Maybe you still stick to the Old Testament?
* Maybe YOU need to read the OT and not skip any pages to see what this
ancient Hebrew god was really like.
Hey, wake up! Jesus Christus has dies for our sins,
* Because this blood-thirsty god refused to forgive an unevolved female
hominid for being beguilded and fooled by a talking snake. Give me a
break.
Check this out:
Creation "Science" Debunked:
http://www.geocities.com/lflank
DebunkCreation Email list:
http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/DebunkCreation
Do you really believe in such a nonsense? Oh dear...
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You believe in the nonsense of an invisible sky daddy? Oh dear,.... looks
like you slept your way through High School.
--
FPower.......
But look what your Jehovah god said in his bible:
Psalm 137:9
"Happy shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the
stones." (Infanticide approved by god)
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04 May 2004 08:27:31 PM |
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"Flower Power" <noCHAUVINISTS@womans.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:EeWdnRF_ffiDqwXdRVn-ug@heartoftn.net...
":::vera:::" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote in message
news:c76jfq$di3h$1@ID-223228.news.uni-berlin.de...
Love...keeps no record of wrongs. Love...always hopes, always perseveres.
(1 Corinthians 13:4-7, NIV)
===========================
And yet your god had whole cities leveled and every living thing
slaughtered - EXCEPT for the young virgins. Imagine that. He told them to
keep these young virgins for their own *use* meaning to rape and sexually
abuse them.
--
FP.........
Numbers 31:17-18 God commands Moses to kill all the Medianite people
including children and women. To top it off he commands that the virgins be
saved for later raping by Moses' soldiers.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de/We%20shall%20overcome%204.mp3
::: vera :::
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:::::::::: http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de/Israel.htm ::::::::::
Love...keeps no record of wrongs. Love...always hopes, always perseveres.
(1 Corinthians 13:4-7, NIV)
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04 May 2004 08:30:56 PM |
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On Wed, 5 May 2004 03:27:31 +0200, ":::vera:::"
<verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote:
"Flower Power" <noCHAUVINISTS@womans.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:EeWdnRF_ffiDqwXdRVn-ug@heartoftn.net...
":::vera:::" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote in message
news:c76jfq$di3h$1@ID-223228.news.uni-berlin.de...
Love...keeps no record of wrongs. Love...always hopes, always perseveres.
(1 Corinthians 13:4-7, NIV)
===========================
And yet your god had whole cities leveled and every living thing
slaughtered - EXCEPT for the young virgins. Imagine that. He told them to
keep these young virgins for their own *use* meaning to rape and sexually
abuse them.
--
FP.........
Numbers 31:17-18 God commands Moses to kill all the Medianite people
including children and women. To top it off he commands that the virgins be
saved for later raping by Moses' soldiers.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de/We%20shall%20overcome%204.mp3
http://pbskids.org/teletubbies/hints/int_tinky.html
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| User: "Osprey" |
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04 May 2004 08:23:40 PM |
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"Flower Power" <noCHAUVINISTS@womans.com> wrote in message
news:EeWdnRF_ffiDqwXdRVn-ug@heartoftn.net...
":::vera:::" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote in message
news:c76jfq$di3h$1@ID-223228.news.uni-berlin.de...
Love...keeps no record of wrongs. Love...always hopes, always
perseveres.
(1 Corinthians 13:4-7, NIV)
===========================
And yet your god had whole cities leveled and every living thing
slaughtered - EXCEPT for the young virgins. Imagine that. He told them
to
keep these young virgins for their own *use* meaning to rape and sexually
abuse them.
--
FP.........
Numbers 31:17-18 God commands Moses to kill all the Medianite people
including children and women. To top it off he commands that the virgins
be
saved for later raping by Moses' soldiers.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Time for more education for the ignorant atheist
Num 31:17 -
Kill every male among the little ones - For this action I account simply on
the principle that God, who is the author and supporter of life, has a right
to dispose of it when and how he thinks proper; and the Judge of all the
earth can do nothing but what is right. Of the women killed on this occasion
it may be safely said, their lives were forfeited by their personal
transgressions; and yet even in this case there can be little doubt that God
showed mercy to their souls. The little ones were safely lodged; they were
taken to heaven and saved from the evil to come.
Num 31:18 - But all the women children,.... The females among the little
ones:
that have not known a man by lying with him; which might be pretty clear,
and easily concluded, from their age:
keep for yourselves; either to be handmaids to them, or to be married among
them when grown up, and become proselytes, and initiated into their
religion.
Some more education for you to digest
Num 31:13-24 -
We have here the triumphant return of the army of Israel from the war with
Midian, and here,
I. They were met with great respect, Num_31:13. Moses himself,
notwithstanding his age and gravity, walked out of the camp to congratulate
them on their victory, and to grace the solemnity of their triumphs. Public
successes should be publicly acknowledged, to the glory of God, and the
encouragement of those that have jeoparded their lives in their country's
cause.
II. They were severely reproved for saving the women alive. It is very
probable that Moses had commanded them to kill the women, at least this was
implied in the general order to avenge Israel of the Midianites; the
execution having reference to that crime, their drawing them in to the
worship of Peor, it was easy to conclude that the women, who were the
principal criminals, must not be spared. What! says Moses, have you saved
the women alive? Num_31:15. He was moved with a holy indignation at the
sight of them. These were those that caused the children of Israel to commit
this trespass; and therefore, 1. It is just that they should die. The law in
case of whoredom was, The adulterer and adulteress should surely be put to
death. God had put to death the adulterers of Israel by the plague, and now
it was fit that the adulteresses of Midian, especially since they had been
the tempters, should be put to death by the sword. 2. "It is dangerous to
let them live; they will be still tempting the Israelites to uncleanness,
and so your captives will be your conquerors and a second time your
destroyers." Severe orders are therefore given that all the grown women
should be slain in cold blood, and only the female children spared.
III. They were obliged to purify themselves, according to the ceremony of
the law, and to abide without the camp seven days, till their purification
was accomplished. For, 1. They had imbrued their hands in blood, by which
though they had not contracted any moral guilt, the war being just and
lawful, yet they were brought under a ceremonial uncleanness, which rendered
them unfit to come near the tabernacle till they were purified. Thus God
would preserve in their minds a dread and detestation of murder. David must
not build the temple because he had been a man of war, and had shed blood,
1Ch_28:3. 2. They could not but have touched dead bodies, by which they were
polluted, and that required they should be purified with the water of
separation, Num_31:19, Num_31:20, Num_31:24.
IV. They must likewise purify the spoil they had taken, the captives
(Num_31:19) and all the goods, Num_31:21-23. What would bear the fire must
pass through the fire, and what would not must be washed with water. These
things had been use by Midianites, and, having now come into the possession
of Israelites, it was fit that they should be sanctified to the service of
that holy nation and the honour of their holy God. To us now every thing is
sanctified by the word and prayer, if we are sanctified by the Spirit, who
is compared both to fire and water. To the pure all things are pure.
Key phrase in this
To the pure all things are pure
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04 May 2004 08:39:47 PM |
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:dYOdnfdLesSR3wXdRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
<snipped, and I will explain why>
It is always very funny when atheist want bring Bible verses they do not
believe in - just to prevent people to get to know God...
Please read Luke or Matthiew, maybe James. Okay? I mean, if you really
want to live with the Bible, you should do it correctly... The best way would be
to become a believer first, and then go into the verses again... or let them explain
by someone who is an expert. These things are much too important that everybody
might interpret into them according to his purposes....
--
::: vera :::
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!
for ye are as graves which appear not,
and the men that walk over them are not aware of them.
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"GROWING DEEPER" on
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| User: "Flower Power" |
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05 May 2004 01:30:07 AM |
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":::vera:::" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote in message
news:c79gl7$19e1m$1@ID-223228.news.uni-berlin.de...
It is always very funny when atheist want bring Bible verses they do not
believe in - just to prevent people to get to know God...
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Send this god to my house, and I will gladly put coffee on and "get to know"
her/him/it. Make sure he's dressed in white or maybe black so I know who he
is when he comes knocking. We have several large dogs.....
--
FP.........
Numbers 31:17-18 God commands Moses to kill all the Medianite people
including children and women. To top it off he commands that the virgins be
saved for later raping by Moses' soldiers.
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07 May 2004 04:25:39 PM |
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"Flower Power" <ChauvinistFree@womens.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:BbadnZmnaMlrFAXdRVn-ig@heartoftn.net...
":::vera:::" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote in message
news:c79gl7$19e1m$1@ID-223228.news.uni-berlin.de...
It is always very funny when atheist want bring Bible verses they do not
believe in - just to prevent people to get to know God...
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Send this god to my house, and I will gladly put coffee on and "get to know"
her/him/it. Make sure he's dressed in white or maybe black so I know who he
is when he comes knocking. We have several large dogs.....
--
FP.........
Numbers 31:17-18 God commands Moses to kill all the Medianite people
including children and women. To top it off he commands that the virgins be
saved for later raping by Moses' soldiers.
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Well, that is what people will get who reject God. In those times they got it right
away, but today you have a chance to change ... Jesus made it possible. He made it
possiblke for us to be reconciled to God. If we want to... But He will not force you
here on earth.
::: vera :::
Ecc 3:1-8
To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up
that which is planted;
A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;
A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;
A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace,
and a time to refrain from embracing;
A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;
A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.
--
"GROWING DEEPER" on
:::::::::: http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de ::::::::::
:::::::::: http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de/Israel.htm ::::::::::
Christian adventure website... Danger! Do not go there! It might change your life to the better...
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08 May 2004 01:26:18 PM |
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:::vera::: <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote:
Numbers 31:17-18 God commands Moses to kill all the Medianite people
including children and women. To top it off he commands that the virgins be
saved for later raping by Moses' soldiers.
Well, that is what people will get who reject God.
People like you?
In those times they got it right
away, but today you have a chance to change ... Jesus made it possible. He made it
possiblke for us to be reconciled to God.
And here you are, spitting on Jesus' sacrifice, showing everybody what
a dishonest, self-righteous hypocrite you are.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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07 May 2004 04:41:21 PM |
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:dYOdnfdLesSR3wXdRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
"Flower Power" <noCHAUVINISTS@womans.com> wrote in message
news:EeWdnRF_ffiDqwXdRVn-ug@heartoftn.net...
":::vera:::" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote in message
news:c76jfq$di3h$1@ID-223228.news.uni-berlin.de...
Love...keeps no record of wrongs. Love...always hopes, always
perseveres.
(1 Corinthians 13:4-7, NIV)
===========================
And yet your god had whole cities leveled and every living thing
slaughtered - EXCEPT for the young virgins. Imagine that. He told them
to
keep these young virgins for their own *use* meaning to rape and sexually
abuse them.
--
FP.........
Numbers 31:17-18 God commands Moses to kill all the Medianite people
including children and women. To top it off he commands that the virgins
be
saved for later raping by Moses' soldiers.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Time for more education for the ignorant atheist
Num 31:17 -
Kill every male among the little ones - For this action I account simply on
the principle that God, who is the author and supporter of life, has a right
to dispose of it when and how he thinks proper; and the Judge of all the
earth can do nothing but what is right. Of the women killed on this occasion
it may be safely said, their lives were forfeited by their personal
transgressions; and yet even in this case there can be little doubt that God
showed mercy to their souls. The little ones were safely lodged; they were
taken to heaven and saved from the evil to come.
Num 31:18 - But all the women children,.... The females among the little
ones:
that have not known a man by lying with him; which might be pretty clear,
and easily concluded, from their age:
keep for yourselves; either to be handmaids to them, or to be married among
them when grown up, and become proselytes, and initiated into their
religion.
Some more education for you to digest
Num 31:13-24 -
We have here the triumphant return of the army of Israel from the war with
Midian, and here,
I. They were met with great respect, Num_31:13. Moses himself,
notwithstanding his age and gravity, walked out of the camp to congratulate
them on their victory, and to grace the solemnity of their triumphs. Public
successes should be publicly acknowledged, to the glory of God, and the
encouragement of those that have jeoparded their lives in their country's
cause.
II. They were severely reproved for saving the women alive. It is very
probable that Moses had commanded them to kill the women, at least this was
implied in the general order to avenge Israel of the Midianites; the
execution having reference to that crime, their drawing them in to the
worship of Peor, it was easy to conclude that the women, who were the
principal criminals, must not be spared. What! says Moses, have you saved
the women alive? Num_31:15. He was moved with a holy indignation at the
sight of them. These were those that caused the children of Israel to commit
this trespass; and therefore, 1. It is just that they should die. The law in
case of whoredom was, The adulterer and adulteress should surely be put to
death. God had put to death the adulterers of Israel by the plague, and now
it was fit that the adulteresses of Midian, especially since they had been
the tempters, should be put to death by the sword. 2. "It is dangerous to
let them live; they will be still tempting the Israelites to uncleanness,
and so your captives will be your conquerors and a second time your
destroyers." Severe orders are therefore given that all the grown women
should be slain in cold blood, and only the female children spared.
III. They were obliged to purify themselves, according to the ceremony of
the law, and to abide without the camp seven days, till their purification
was accomplished. For, 1. They had imbrued their hands in blood, by which
though they had not contracted any moral guilt, the war being just and
lawful, yet they were brought under a ceremonial uncleanness, which rendered
them unfit to come near the tabernacle till they were purified. Thus God
would preserve in their minds a dread and detestation of murder. David must
not build the temple because he had been a man of war, and had shed blood,
1Ch_28:3. 2. They could not but have touched dead bodies, by which they were
polluted, and that required they should be purified with the water of
separation, Num_31:19, Num_31:20, Num_31:24.
IV. They must likewise purify the spoil they had taken, the captives
(Num_31:19) and all the goods, Num_31:21-23. What would bear the fire must
pass through the fire, and what would not must be washed with water. These
things had been use by Midianites, and, having now come into the possession
of Israelites, it was fit that they should be sanctified to the service of
that holy nation and the honour of their holy God. To us now every thing is
sanctified by the word and prayer, if we are sanctified by the Spirit, who
is compared both to fire and water. To the pure all things are pure.
Key phrase in this
To the pure all things are pure
Thanks for that, Osprey...
And there is this here as well:
For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers,
and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. Rev 22:15 (KJV)
And this:
Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the
way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.
But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.
And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his
season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.
The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away.
Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation
of the righteous.
For the LORD knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.
Psalm 1:1-6 (KJV)
Love and Peace upon you
::: vera :::
I will praise thee, O Lord, among the people: I will sing unto thee
among the nations. (Psalm 57:9)
--
"GROWING DEEPER" on
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:::::::::: http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de/Israel.htm ::::::::::
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05 May 2004 01:26:23 AM |
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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Time for more education for the ignorant atheist
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More juvenile, immature, oh, so holy "Christian" personal attacks....
*SNIP!*
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FP............
Numbers 31:17-18 God commands Moses to kill all the Medianite people
including children and women. To top it off he commands that the virgins be
saved for later raping by Moses' soldiers.
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05 May 2004 08:17:25 AM |
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"Flower Power" <ChauvinistFree@womens.net> wrote in message
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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Time for more education for the ignorant atheist
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More juvenile, immature, oh, so holy "Christian" personal attacks....
*SNIP!*
As usual, when the atheist is given an education on a biblical verse that
can demonstrate they don't know how to read the bible...they snip it and run
--
FP............
Numbers 31:17-18 God commands Moses to kill all the Medianite people
including children and women. To top it off he commands that the virgins
be
saved for later raping by Moses' soldiers.
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| User: "Flower Power" |
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| Title: Re: The Roman Road... |
05 May 2004 10:38:34 AM |
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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"Flower Power" <ChauvinistFree@womens.net> wrote in message
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:dYOdnfdLesSR3wXdRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
Time for more education for the ignorant atheist
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More juvenile, immature, oh, so holy "Christian" personal attacks....
*SNIP!*
As usual, when the atheist is given an education on a biblical verse that
can demonstrate they don't know how to read the bible...they snip it and
run
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Allow me to repeat: More juvenile, immature, oh, so holy "Christian"
personal attacks. I have no use for religious APOLOGIST literature from
those who never even read their bibles.
.......... *SNIP!*
--
FPower.......
But look what your Jehovah god said in his bible:
Psalm 137:9
"Happy shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the
stones."
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: The Roman Road... |
05 May 2004 12:30:15 PM |
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"Flower Power" <Free@womens.net> wrote in message
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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"Flower Power" <ChauvinistFree@womens.net> wrote in message
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:dYOdnfdLesSR3wXdRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
Time for more education for the ignorant atheist
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More juvenile, immature, oh, so holy "Christian" personal attacks....
*SNIP!*
As usual, when the atheist is given an education on a biblical verse
that
can demonstrate they don't know how to read the bible...they snip it and
run
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Allow me to repeat:
No, I do not allow it.
Sorry
You were given an excellent explanation of what the verses meant that you
referred too.
And in return, instead of reading, learning, and understanding...you chose
to be the coward I
believe you to be and ignore it and attack.
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| User: "Flower Power" |
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05 May 2004 05:19:10 PM |
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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No, I do not allow it.
Sorry
You were given an excellent explanation of what the verses meant that you
referred too.
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You gave the same OLD apologist rhetoric I've seen so many times before.....
When a girl is FORCED into marriage or concubinage it's RAPE and SEXUAL
abuse! Everyone who refuses to read your religious BS is a coward according
to you. Maybe you need to check these sites out - YOU COWARD!
Creation "Science" Debunked:
http://www.geocities.com/lflank
DebunkCreation Email list:
http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/DebunkCreation
FP....
--
FPower.......
But look what your Jehovah god said in his bible:
Psalm 137:9
"Happy shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the
stones." (Infanticide approved by god)
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| User: "Osprey" |
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05 May 2004 09:05:11 PM |
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"Flower Power" <Freedom@womensfree.net> wrote in message
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:Sfmdna1nEucHuQTdRVn-hQ@comcast.com...
No, I do not allow it.
Sorry
You were given an excellent explanation of what the verses meant that
you
referred too.
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You gave the same OLD apologist rhetoric I've seen so many times
before.....
Fact is you were given an excellent explanation of what the verses meant
that you referred too,
that showed not only do you not know the bible, you misrepresent it.
In return, you chose to snip and run.
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| User: ":::vera:::" |
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07 May 2004 04:43:31 PM |
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:oaednWqJQv7UAATdRVn-jg@comcast.com...
"Flower Power" <Freedom@womensfree.net> wrote in message
news:84ednZ6uTpX19ATdRVn-ig@heartoftn.net...
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:Sfmdna1nEucHuQTdRVn-hQ@comcast.com...
No, I do not allow it.
Sorry
You were given an excellent explanation of what the verses meant that
you
referred too.
============
You gave the same OLD apologist rhetoric I've seen so many times
before.....
Fact is you were given an excellent explanation of what the verses meant
that you referred too,
that showed not only do you not know the bible, you misrepresent it.
In return, you chose to snip and run.
Which was to be seen. :-)
Love and Peace,
::: vera :::
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| User: "Flower Power" |
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07 May 2004 08:39:10 PM |
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":::vera:::" <verasix@acc-growing-deeper.de> wrote in message
news:2g2e8aF3kecbU1@uni-berlin.de...
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:oaednWqJQv7UAATdRVn-jg@comcast.com...
"Flower Power" <Freedom@womensfree.net> wrote in message
news:84ednZ6uTpX19ATdRVn-ig@heartoftn.net...
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:Sfmdna1nEucHuQTdRVn-hQ@comcast.com...
No, I do not allow it.
Sorry
You were given an excellent explanation of what the verses meant
that
you
referred too.
============
You gave the same OLD apologist rhetoric I've seen so many times
before.....
Fact is you were given an excellent explanation of what the verses meant
that you referred too,
that showed not only do you not know the bible, you misrepresent it.
In return, you chose to snip and run.
Which was to be seen. :-)
Love and Peace,
::: vera :::
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I'm surprised you agree that the capture, rape and sexual abuse of little
girls is a good thing. Your god seemed to think so... along with bashing
babies on rocks.
--
FPower.....
"Men never do evil so completely and
cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction."
~ Blaise Pascal (1623-1662) ~
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05 May 2004 10:41:49 PM |
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:oaednWqJQv7UAATdRVn-jg@comcast.com...
"Flower Power" <Freedom@womensfree.net> wrote in message
news:84ednZ6uTpX19ATdRVn-ig@heartoftn.net...
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:Sfmdna1nEucHuQTdRVn-hQ@comcast.com...
No, I do not allow it.
Sorry
You were given an excellent explanation of what the verses meant that
you
referred too.
============
You gave the same OLD apologist rhetoric I've seen so many times
before.....
Fact is you were given an excellent explanation of what the verses meant
that you referred too,
** According to WHOSE interpretation? When a captured girl is forced into
marriage and concubinage it is RAPE and SEXUAL ABUSE of that child no matter
how you cut the pie. These girls were barely 12 and 13 years old.
that showed not only do you not know the bible, you misrepresent it.
In return, you chose to snip and run.
** It shows that all you know is the apologist literate that makes the bible
and this god you need, palatable......
--
FPower.......
But look what your Jehovah god said in his bible:
Psalm 137:9
"Happy shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the
stones." (Infanticide approved by god)
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| User: "Osprey" |
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05 May 2004 10:57:51 PM |
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"Flower Power" <Freedom@spamless.net> wrote in message
news:zuKdnQqwE6mbKQTdRVn-uw@heartoftn.net...
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:oaednWqJQv7UAATdRVn-jg@comcast.com...
"Flower Power" <Freedom@womensfree.net> wrote in message
news:84ednZ6uTpX19ATdRVn-ig@heartoftn.net...
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:Sfmdna1nEucHuQTdRVn-hQ@comcast.com...
No, I do not allow it.
Sorry
You were given an excellent explanation of what the verses meant
that
you
referred too.
============
You gave the same OLD apologist rhetoric I've seen so many times
before.....
Fact is you were given an excellent explanation of what the verses meant
that you referred too,
** According to WHOSE interpretation?
According to centuries of scholars who would know a whole lot more than you
when it comes to the bible.
When a captured girl is forced into
marriage and concubinage it is RAPE and SEXUAL ABUSE of that child no
matter
how you cut the pie. These girls were barely 12 and 13 years old.
that showed not only do you not know the bible, you misrepresent it.
In return, you chose to snip and run.
** It shows that all you know is the apologist literate that makes the
bible
and this god you need, palatable......
--
FPower.......
But look what your Jehovah god said in his bible:
Psalm 137:9
"Happy shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the
stones." (Infanticide approved by god)
Do you have any idea what Psalm is about at all?????
Matthew Henry -
Psa 137:7-9 -
The pious Jews in Babylon, having afflicted themselves with the thoughts of
the ruins of Jerusalem, here please themselves with the prospect of the ruin
of her impenitent implacable enemies; but this not from a spirit of revenge,
but from a holy zeal for the glory of God and the honour of his kingdom.
I. The Edomites will certainly be reckoned with, and all others that were
accessaries to the destruction of Jerusalem, that were aiding and abetting,
that helped forward the affliction (Zec_1:15) and triumphed in it, that
said, in the day of Jerusalem, the day of her judgment, "Rase it, rase it to
the foundations; down with it, down with it; do not leave one stone upon
another." Thus they made the Chaldean army more furious, who were already so
enraged that they needed no spur. Thus they put shame upon Israel, who would
be looked upon as a people worthy to be cut off when their next neighbours
had such an ill-will to them. And all this was a fruit of the old enmity of
Esau against Jacob, because he got the birthright and the blessing, and a
branch of that more ancient enmity between the seed of the woman and the
seed of the serpent: Lord, remember them, says the psalmist, which is an
appeal to his justice against them. Far be it from us to avenge ourselves,
if ever it should be in our power, but we will leave it to him who has said,
Vengeance is mine. Note, Those that are glad at calamities, especially the
calamities of Jerusalem, shall not go unpunished. Those that are confederate
with the persecutors of good people, and stir them up, and set them on, and
are pleased with what they do, shall certainly be called to an account for
it against another day, and God will remember it against them.
II. Babylon is the principal, and it will come to her turn too to drink of
the cup of tremblings, the very dregs of it (Psa_137:8, Psa_137:9): O
daughter of Babylon! proud and secure as thou art, we know well, by the
scriptures of truth, thou art to be destroyed, or (as Dr. Hammond reads it)
who art the destroyer. The destroyers shall be destroyed, Rev_13:10. And
perhaps it is with reference to this that the man of sin, the head of the
New Testament Babylon, is called a son of perdition, 2Th_2:3. The
destruction of Babylon being foreseen as a sure destruction (thou art to be
destroyed), it is spoken of, 1. As a just destruction. She shall be paid in
her own coin: "Thou shalt be served as thou hast served us, as barbarously
used by the destroyers as we have been by thee," See Rev_18:6. Let not those
expect to find mercy who, when they had power, did not show mercy. 2. As an
utter destruction. The very little ones of Babylon, when it is taken by
storm, and all in it are put to the sword, shall be dashed to pieces by the
enraged and merciless conqueror. None escape if these little ones perish.
Those are the seed of another generation; so that, if they be cut off, the
ruin will be not only total, as Jerusalem's was, but final. It is sunk like
a millstone into the sea, never to rise. 3. As a destruction which should
reflect honour upon the instruments of it. Happy shall those be that do it;
for they are fulfilling God's counsels; and therefore he calls Cyrus, who
did it, his servant, his shepherd, his anointed (Isa_44:28; Isa_45:1), and
the soldiers that were employed in it his sanctified ones, Isa_13:3. They
are making way for the enlargement of God's Israel, and happy are those who
are in any way serviceable to that. The fall of the New Testament Babylon
will be the triumph of all the saints, Rev_19:1.
John Gill -
Psa 137:9 - Happy shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy little ones
against the stones. That takes the infants from their mothers' breasts, or
out of their arms, and dashes out their brains against a "rock", as the word
(k) signifies; which, though it may seem a piece of cruelty, was but a just
retaliation; the Babylonians having done the same to the Jewish children,
and is foretold elsewhere should be done to theirs, Isa_13:16. Nor is this
desired from a spirit of revenge, but for the glory of divine justice, and
that such a generation of cruel creatures might be rooted out of the earth;
see Rev_2:2. Some allegorically understand this of crushing and mortifying
the first motions of sin in the heart; but such a sense seems to have no
place here.
(k) ?? ??? "ad petram", V. L. Pagninus, Montanus, &c. "ad repem", Cocceius.
Psa_137:9
"Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the
stones." Fierce was the heart of the Jew who had seen his beloved city the
scene of such terrific butchery. His heart pronounced like sentence upon
Babylon. She should be scourged with her own whip of wire. The desire for
righteous retribution is rather the spirit of the law than of the gospel;
and yet in moments of righteous wrath the old fire will burn; and while
justice survives in the human breast it will not lack for fuel among the
various tyrannies which still survive. We shall be wise to view this passage
as a prophecy. History informs us that it was literally fulfilled: the
Babylonian people in their terror agreed to destroy their own offspring, and
men thought themselves happy when they had put their own wives and children
to the sword. Horrible as was the whole transaction, it is a thing to be
glad of if we take a broad view of the world's welfare; for Babylon, the
gigantic robber, had for many a year slaughtered nations without mercy, and
her fall was the rising of many people to a freer and safer state. The
murder of innocent infants can never be sufficiently deplored, but it was an
incident of ancient warfare which the Babylonians had not omitted in their
massacres, and, therefore, they were not spared it themselves. The revenges
of providence may be slow, but they are ever sure; neither can they be
received with regret by those who see God's righteous hand in them. It is a
wretched thing that a nation should need an executioner; but yet if men will
commit murder tears are more fitly shed over their victims than over the
assassins themselves. A feeling of universal love is admirable, but it must
not be divorced from a keen sense of justice.
The captives in Babylon did not make music, but they poured forth their
righteous maledictions, and these were far more in harmony with their
surroundings than songs and laughter could have been. Those who mock the
Lord's people will receive more than they desire, to their own confusion:
they shall have little enough to make mirth for them, and more than enough
to fill them with misery. The execrations of good men are terrible things,
for they are not lightly uttered, and they are heard in heaven. "The curse
causeless shall not come;" but is there not a cause? Shall despots crush
virtue beneath their iron heel and never be punished? Time will show.
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07 May 2004 02:27:05 AM |
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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"Flower Power" <Freedom@spamless.net> wrote in message
** According to WHOSE interpretation?
According to centuries of scholars who would know a whole lot more than
you
when it comes to the bible.
$$ Really? Since I have excellent reading comprehension I don't need
anyone interpreting the bible for me. You can have 10 experts and all will
have a different interpretation. So that's meaningless......
When virgin girls have their hair and nails cut off and the men give them 30
days to have at least 1 menstruation cycle before FORCING them into unwanted
marriages and concubinage, mostly with men their father's age - that is RAPE
and SEXUAL ABUSE! It was approved by your ancient Hebrew god no matter how
much apologist BS is written to sweeten it up.
--
FP......
Wise men stare at the unknown, and boldly asks, WHY?
Others... fall on their hands and knees, and start mumbling...
(God did it! God did it!)
~ Thus Spake God's Creator ~
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07 May 2004 08:02:15 AM |
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"Flower Power" <flowers@spamless.net> wrote in message
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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"Flower Power" <Freedom@spamless.net> wrote in message
** According to WHOSE interpretation?
According to centuries of scholars who would know a whole lot more than
you
when it comes to the bible.
$$ Really? Since I have excellent reading comprehension I don't need
anyone interpreting the bible for me.
Obviously you don't since I have corrected you on several verses already.
You can have 10 experts and all will
have a different interpretation. So that's meaningless......
Yes it is meaningless when you are talking to someone who is not reasonable
(hint: That would be you)
When virgin girls have their hair and nails cut off and the men give them
30
days to have at least 1 menstruation cycle before FORCING them into
unwanted
marriages and concubinage, mostly with men their father's age - that is
RAPE
and SEXUAL ABUSE! It was approved by your ancient Hebrew god no matter
how
much apologist BS is written to sweeten it up.
--
FP......
Wise men stare at the unknown, and boldly asks, WHY?
Others... fall on their hands and knees, and start mumbling...
(God did it! God did it!)
~ Thus Spake God's Creator ~
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07 May 2004 08:35:14 PM |
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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"Flower Power" <flowers@spamless.net> wrote in message
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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"Flower Power" <Freedom@spamless.net> wrote in message
** According to WHOSE interpretation?
According to centuries of scholars who would know a whole lot more
than
you
when it comes to the bible.
$$ Really? Since I have excellent reading comprehension I don't need
anyone interpreting the bible for me.
Obviously you don't since I have corrected you on several verses already.
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You didn't CORRECT anyone. You gave an interpretation that YOU agreed with
that had nothing to do with the kidnapping, rape and sexual abuse of young
virgin girls.
--
FPower.......
But look what your Jehovah god said in his bible:
Psalm 137:9
"Happy shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the
stones." (Infanticide approved by god)
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07 May 2004 08:45:01 PM |
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"Flower Power" <Petunias@spamless.net> wrote in message
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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"Flower Power" <flowers@spamless.net> wrote in message
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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"Flower Power" <Freedom@spamless.net> wrote in message
** According to WHOSE interpretation?
According to centuries of scholars who would know a whole lot more
than
you
when it comes to the bible.
$$ Really? Since I have excellent reading comprehension I don't need
anyone interpreting the bible for me.
Obviously you don't since I have corrected you on several verses
already.
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You didn't CORRECT anyone.
Oh yea I did..you
but you are too ignorant to notice or be honest
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07 May 2004 11:46:30 PM |
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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"Flower Power" <Petunias@spamless.net> wrote in message
You didn't CORRECT anyone.
Oh yea I did..you
but you are too ignorant to notice or be honest
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Same childish, na na na nonsense and here I thought you were an adult. You
can't even stay on topic....
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On Fri, 7 May 2004 21:45:01 -0400, "Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com>
wrote:
"Flower Power" <Petunias@spamless.net> wrote in message
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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"Flower Power" <flowers@spamless.net> wrote in message
news:2fednacA8ZpGpwbdRVn-sw@heartoftn.net...
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:HeCdnbux2soDKgTdRVn-gQ@comcast.com...
"Flower Power" <Freedom@spamless.net> wrote in message
** According to WHOSE interpretation?
According to centuries of scholars who would know a whole lot more
than
you
when it comes to the bible.
$$ Really? Since I have excellent reading comprehension I don't need
anyone interpreting the bible for me.
Obviously you don't since I have corrected you on several verses
already.
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You didn't CORRECT anyone.
Oh yea I did..
Oh, no, you didn't!
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05 May 2004 10:44:24 PM |
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:oaednWqJQv7UAATdRVn-jg@comcast.com...
Fact is you were given an excellent explanation of what the verses meant
that you referred too,
that showed not only do you not know the bible, you misrepresent it.
In return, you chose to snip and run.
IV. They must likewise purify the spoil they had taken, the captives
(Num_31:19) and all the goods, Num_31:21-23. What would bear the fire must
pass through the fire, and what would not must be washed with water. These
things had been use by Midianites, and, having now come into the possession
of Israelites, it was fit that they should be sanctified to the service of
that holy nation and the honour of their holy God. To us now every thing is
sanctified by the word and prayer, if we are sanctified by the Spirit, who
is compared both to fire and water. To the pure all things are pure.
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What has this crap got to do with the kidnapping, rape, and sexual abuse of
young virgin girls, which was the topic of discussion?
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FPower.......
But look what your Jehovah god said in his bible:
Psalm 137:9
"Happy shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the
stones." (Infanticide approved by god)
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