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Science > Abortion |
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"Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!" |
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23 May 2006 03:04:55 AM |
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The RRR Cult vs. Christianity |
<krisbam@freemail.absa.co.za> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@home.com> wrote:
Krisbam <Krisbam@altavista.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@home.com> wrote:
dk <dkandrews@worldinter.net> wrote:
May GOD forgive the USA of partial birth abortion. )-:
The above is your submission for:
"ASININE Comment of the Day," right?
Yup...
Suggest perhaps, that we ask God, INSTEAD, to forgive the HATEFUL
people who seek for impose immense hardship upon tens of millions of
women by FORCING childbirth upon them, against their will.
And to think these same hateful control freaks to even endorse a god
and then profess to speak for this god is utterly sickening!
Which is why I think I'm being very fair and accurate when I refer
to such people as "PSEUDO-Christians." Jesus' PRIME Directive was
a COMMAND to His followers to show love and compassion to their
neighbors.
Which makes sense!
No one in history was ever MORE sensible. Or compassionate.
... Which the Anti-Choicers purporting to be Christians either
PURPOSELY ignore, or are totally IGNORANT of, in their pursuit of a
hateful agenda that would TRASH all those millions of their neighbors.
It is deliberate attempt to destroy the religion and the spirits of those
who are avid and true followers of the faith. How unfortunate.
For sure. By guising themselves as "Christians," the PSEUDO-
Christian cultists of the Religious Radical Right (in which MOST of
the Anti-Choicers are found), they lyingly cloak themselves in that
mantle of respectability. Unfortunately, that has COST Christianity
its respectability in the eyes of the tens of millions of Americans
who have not been discerning enough to recognize that the RRR
Cult in NO WAY is the *least bit* representative of Christianity.
Christianity is FAIR-minded.
The RRR Cult is NARROW-minded.
Christianity is CONSIDERATE.
The RRR Cult is control-freakish.
Christianity follows what the Bible SAYS.
The RRR Cult cooks up its own false doctrine, and
IGNORES everything in the Bible that conflicts with it.
The Bible says NOTHING about (or against) abortion.
The RRR cultists pretend that it does.
Jesus' Prime Directive: Love and have compassion for neighbors.
The RRR cult seeks to TRASH millions of women.
The Bible appointed NO Enforcers of its precepts upon society.
The RRR cult acts as though it appointed THEM to be.
And to add insult to *that* injury, they THEN seek to
IMPOSE their false dogmas (such as opposition to
abortion) upon society AS THOUGH they were biblical.
The Bible warns of "False Teachers" that will come in our day.
The leaders of the RRR cult FIT the criteria for that
PERFECTLY. And *most* people don't even recognize
them for what they are. (Which is logical; what false
teacher worth his salt would *identify* himself as such?
To the contrary, they all would CON as many people as
possible into believing that they're Jesus' gift to our
generation.)
GENUINE Christians and the RRR cultists, who PURPORT to be
Christians, are as different as day and night.
The Bible says that "by their fruits" people shall be known.
The fruits of GENUINE Christians are kindness, fair-mindedness,
consideration, charity, and honesty.
The fruits of the RRR cultists are repression, deception, and
hatefulness.
As an ENORMOUS service BOTH to Jesus AND to His two billion
followers, worldwide, it is necessary to EDUCATE society about this
massive and hateful deception on the part of the cultists.
These cultists are found primarily within the USA, and to a lesser
degree, Canada. In America, if they are *regarded* as Christians,
they comprise only a mere 1% of them. Of the remaining 99%,
most are *genuine* Christians -- although a few million of those are
passive sympathizers with the cultists. Probably because they don't
realize how wrong the RRR cult is, and have fallen for much of their
disinformation. The RRR Cult's leaders are masters of psychological
deception. (And ONE of those, James Dobson, even is *introduced*
in his daily "Focus on the Family" show on Christian radio as a
"psychologist." HE's not even a clergyman.)
All in the supposed "defense" of entities that are the SAME as
sperm and ova -- which they DON'T defend -- in all important ways:
human, unique, a stage of development *without* which there would
be NO births, NON-sentient, and alive.
It seems that it is easier to defend an imaginary person then to actually
go out of their way to defend an actual person. This would require that
they use their personal resources and time, which is something they are
unwilling to give, but expect everyone else to do so.
They are the epitome of selfishness and irrationality.
Even though the Bible covers WELL just about every "moral" issue
people could imagine -- all the way down to fortune-telling (!!), it
never MENTIONS abortion... NEVER *defends* human entities that
have not been born... directs ALL of the defense of human life that it
DOES contain, at people who have been BORN... and ascribes
TREMENDOUS importance to BIRTH order.
Leaving the Anti-Choice pseudo-Christians WITHOUT excuse.
But they still seem to find the excuses! I have to say, at least they are
creative.
They "need" to be. Since not one single FACT supports their
hateful and mindless agenda. So they rant, rave, whine, play on the
emotions of the gullible, equivocate, employ semantic word-games, lie,
and propagandize. And after a person wades through all of that in
search for *any* FACTS that they may have brought to bear in the
midst of it -- he/she finds that NO supporting facts have been presented.
So -- we are dealing with people who are USUALLY hypocritical,
USUALLY bone-ignorant, and ALWAYS hateful and mindless.
And then they WONDER why they are America's laughingstock.
LOL.
Krisbam
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
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| User: "G-Net" |
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| Title: Re: The RRR Cult vs. Christianity |
23 May 2006 07:25:58 AM |
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Gee, since you hate Christians so much, maybe you should strap a bomb onto
your waist and walk into a church. This way you can make yourself a martyr
AND get rid of some Christians in the process!
"Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"
<xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
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<krisbam@freemail.absa.co.za> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@home.com> wrote:
Krisbam <Krisbam@altavista.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@home.com> wrote:
dk <dkandrews@worldinter.net> wrote:
May GOD forgive the USA of partial birth abortion. )-:
The above is your submission for:
"ASININE Comment of the Day," right?
Yup...
Suggest perhaps, that we ask God, INSTEAD, to forgive the HATEFUL
people who seek for impose immense hardship upon tens of millions of
women by FORCING childbirth upon them, against their will.
And to think these same hateful control freaks to even endorse a god
and then profess to speak for this god is utterly sickening!
Which is why I think I'm being very fair and accurate when I refer
to such people as "PSEUDO-Christians." Jesus' PRIME Directive was
a COMMAND to His followers to show love and compassion to their
neighbors.
Which makes sense!
No one in history was ever MORE sensible. Or compassionate.
... Which the Anti-Choicers purporting to be Christians either
PURPOSELY ignore, or are totally IGNORANT of, in their pursuit of a
hateful agenda that would TRASH all those millions of their neighbors.
It is deliberate attempt to destroy the religion and the spirits of
those
who are avid and true followers of the faith. How unfortunate.
For sure. By guising themselves as "Christians," the PSEUDO-
Christian cultists of the Religious Radical Right (in which MOST of
the Anti-Choicers are found), they lyingly cloak themselves in that
mantle of respectability. Unfortunately, that has COST Christianity
its respectability in the eyes of the tens of millions of Americans
who have not been discerning enough to recognize that the RRR
Cult in NO WAY is the *least bit* representative of Christianity.
Christianity is FAIR-minded.
The RRR Cult is NARROW-minded.
Christianity is CONSIDERATE.
The RRR Cult is control-freakish.
Christianity follows what the Bible SAYS.
The RRR Cult cooks up its own false doctrine, and
IGNORES everything in the Bible that conflicts with it.
The Bible says NOTHING about (or against) abortion.
The RRR cultists pretend that it does.
Jesus' Prime Directive: Love and have compassion for neighbors.
The RRR cult seeks to TRASH millions of women.
The Bible appointed NO Enforcers of its precepts upon society.
The RRR cult acts as though it appointed THEM to be.
And to add insult to *that* injury, they THEN seek to
IMPOSE their false dogmas (such as opposition to
abortion) upon society AS THOUGH they were biblical.
The Bible warns of "False Teachers" that will come in our day.
The leaders of the RRR cult FIT the criteria for that
PERFECTLY. And *most* people don't even recognize
them for what they are. (Which is logical; what false
teacher worth his salt would *identify* himself as such?
To the contrary, they all would CON as many people as
possible into believing that they're Jesus' gift to our
generation.)
GENUINE Christians and the RRR cultists, who PURPORT to be
Christians, are as different as day and night.
The Bible says that "by their fruits" people shall be known.
The fruits of GENUINE Christians are kindness, fair-mindedness,
consideration, charity, and honesty.
The fruits of the RRR cultists are repression, deception, and
hatefulness.
As an ENORMOUS service BOTH to Jesus AND to His two billion
followers, worldwide, it is necessary to EDUCATE society about this
massive and hateful deception on the part of the cultists.
These cultists are found primarily within the USA, and to a lesser
degree, Canada. In America, if they are *regarded* as Christians,
they comprise only a mere 1% of them. Of the remaining 99%,
most are *genuine* Christians -- although a few million of those are
passive sympathizers with the cultists. Probably because they don't
realize how wrong the RRR cult is, and have fallen for much of their
disinformation. The RRR Cult's leaders are masters of psychological
deception. (And ONE of those, James Dobson, even is *introduced*
in his daily "Focus on the Family" show on Christian radio as a
"psychologist." HE's not even a clergyman.)
All in the supposed "defense" of entities that are the SAME as
sperm and ova -- which they DON'T defend -- in all important ways:
human, unique, a stage of development *without* which there would
be NO births, NON-sentient, and alive.
It seems that it is easier to defend an imaginary person then to
actually
go out of their way to defend an actual person. This would require that
they use their personal resources and time, which is something they are
unwilling to give, but expect everyone else to do so.
They are the epitome of selfishness and irrationality.
Even though the Bible covers WELL just about every "moral" issue
people could imagine -- all the way down to fortune-telling (!!), it
never MENTIONS abortion... NEVER *defends* human entities that
have not been born... directs ALL of the defense of human life that it
DOES contain, at people who have been BORN... and ascribes
TREMENDOUS importance to BIRTH order.
Leaving the Anti-Choice pseudo-Christians WITHOUT excuse.
But they still seem to find the excuses! I have to say, at least
they are
creative.
They "need" to be. Since not one single FACT supports their
hateful and mindless agenda. So they rant, rave, whine, play on the
emotions of the gullible, equivocate, employ semantic word-games, lie,
and propagandize. And after a person wades through all of that in
search for *any* FACTS that they may have brought to bear in the
midst of it -- he/she finds that NO supporting facts have been presented.
So -- we are dealing with people who are USUALLY hypocritical,
USUALLY bone-ignorant, and ALWAYS hateful and mindless.
And then they WONDER why they are America's laughingstock.
LOL.
Krisbam
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
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| User: "--sexkitten--" |
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| Title: Re: The RRR Cult vs. Christianity |
23 May 2006 04:00:42 PM |
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G-Net wrote:
Gee, since you hate Christians so much, maybe you should strap a bomb onto
your waist and walk into a church. This way you can make yourself a martyr
AND get rid of some Christians in the process!
Craig happens to be a Christian. And the rest of us don't believe in
killing people that don't agree with us. We leave that to you.
"Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"
<xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:l9g572hoif3a6qh5kv0qfqig5hid8g8e7o@4ax.com...
<krisbam@freemail.absa.co.za> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@home.com> wrote:
Krisbam <Krisbam@altavista.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@home.com> wrote:
dk <dkandrews@worldinter.net> wrote:
May GOD forgive the USA of partial birth abortion. )-:
The above is your submission for:
"ASININE Comment of the Day," right?
Yup...
Suggest perhaps, that we ask God, INSTEAD, to forgive the HATEFUL
people who seek for impose immense hardship upon tens of millions of
women by FORCING childbirth upon them, against their will.
And to think these same hateful control freaks to even endorse a god
and then profess to speak for this god is utterly sickening!
Which is why I think I'm being very fair and accurate when I refer
to such people as "PSEUDO-Christians." Jesus' PRIME Directive was
a COMMAND to His followers to show love and compassion to their
neighbors.
Which makes sense!
No one in history was ever MORE sensible. Or compassionate.
... Which the Anti-Choicers purporting to be Christians either
PURPOSELY ignore, or are totally IGNORANT of, in their pursuit of a
hateful agenda that would TRASH all those millions of their neighbors.
It is deliberate attempt to destroy the religion and the spirits of
those
who are avid and true followers of the faith. How unfortunate.
For sure. By guising themselves as "Christians," the PSEUDO-
Christian cultists of the Religious Radical Right (in which MOST of
the Anti-Choicers are found), they lyingly cloak themselves in that
mantle of respectability. Unfortunately, that has COST Christianity
its respectability in the eyes of the tens of millions of Americans
who have not been discerning enough to recognize that the RRR
Cult in NO WAY is the *least bit* representative of Christianity.
Christianity is FAIR-minded.
The RRR Cult is NARROW-minded.
Christianity is CONSIDERATE.
The RRR Cult is control-freakish.
Christianity follows what the Bible SAYS.
The RRR Cult cooks up its own false doctrine, and
IGNORES everything in the Bible that conflicts with it.
The Bible says NOTHING about (or against) abortion.
The RRR cultists pretend that it does.
Jesus' Prime Directive: Love and have compassion for neighbors.
The RRR cult seeks to TRASH millions of women.
The Bible appointed NO Enforcers of its precepts upon society.
The RRR cult acts as though it appointed THEM to be.
And to add insult to *that* injury, they THEN seek to
IMPOSE their false dogmas (such as opposition to
abortion) upon society AS THOUGH they were biblical.
The Bible warns of "False Teachers" that will come in our day.
The leaders of the RRR cult FIT the criteria for that
PERFECTLY. And *most* people don't even recognize
them for what they are. (Which is logical; what false
teacher worth his salt would *identify* himself as such?
To the contrary, they all would CON as many people as
possible into believing that they're Jesus' gift to our
generation.)
GENUINE Christians and the RRR cultists, who PURPORT to be
Christians, are as different as day and night.
The Bible says that "by their fruits" people shall be known.
The fruits of GENUINE Christians are kindness, fair-mindedness,
consideration, charity, and honesty.
The fruits of the RRR cultists are repression, deception, and
hatefulness.
As an ENORMOUS service BOTH to Jesus AND to His two billion
followers, worldwide, it is necessary to EDUCATE society about this
massive and hateful deception on the part of the cultists.
These cultists are found primarily within the USA, and to a lesser
degree, Canada. In America, if they are *regarded* as Christians,
they comprise only a mere 1% of them. Of the remaining 99%,
most are *genuine* Christians -- although a few million of those are
passive sympathizers with the cultists. Probably because they don't
realize how wrong the RRR cult is, and have fallen for much of their
disinformation. The RRR Cult's leaders are masters of psychological
deception. (And ONE of those, James Dobson, even is *introduced*
in his daily "Focus on the Family" show on Christian radio as a
"psychologist." HE's not even a clergyman.)
All in the supposed "defense" of entities that are the SAME as
sperm and ova -- which they DON'T defend -- in all important ways:
human, unique, a stage of development *without* which there would
be NO births, NON-sentient, and alive.
It seems that it is easier to defend an imaginary person then to
actually
go out of their way to defend an actual person. This would require that
they use their personal resources and time, which is something they are
unwilling to give, but expect everyone else to do so.
They are the epitome of selfishness and irrationality.
Even though the Bible covers WELL just about every "moral" issue
people could imagine -- all the way down to fortune-telling (!!), it
never MENTIONS abortion... NEVER *defends* human entities that
have not been born... directs ALL of the defense of human life that it
DOES contain, at people who have been BORN... and ascribes
TREMENDOUS importance to BIRTH order.
Leaving the Anti-Choice pseudo-Christians WITHOUT excuse.
But they still seem to find the excuses! I have to say, at least
they are
creative.
They "need" to be. Since not one single FACT supports their
hateful and mindless agenda. So they rant, rave, whine, play on the
emotions of the gullible, equivocate, employ semantic word-games, lie,
and propagandize. And after a person wades through all of that in
search for *any* FACTS that they may have brought to bear in the
midst of it -- he/she finds that NO supporting facts have been presented.
So -- we are dealing with people who are USUALLY hypocritical,
USUALLY bone-ignorant, and ALWAYS hateful and mindless.
And then they WONDER why they are America's laughingstock.
LOL.
Krisbam
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
--
--sexkitten--
I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: 'O Lord, make
my enemies ridiculous.' And God granted it.
-Voltaire
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| User: "Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!" |
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| Title: Re: The RRR Cult vs. Christianity |
23 May 2006 07:57:27 AM |
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On Tue, 23 May 2006 12:25:58 GMT,
"G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote:
<< Ignorantly TOP-posted material moved to its
proper location. Strike One, for him! >>
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
<krisbam@freemail.absa.co.za> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@home.com> wrote:
Krisbam <Krisbam@altavista.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@home.com> wrote:
dk <dkandrews@worldinter.net> wrote:
May GOD forgive the USA of partial birth abortion. )-:
The above is your submission for:
"ASININE Comment of the Day," right?
Yup...
Suggest perhaps, that we ask God, INSTEAD, to
forgive the HATEFUL people who seek for impose
immense hardship upon tens of millions of women by
FORCING childbirth upon them, against their will.
And to think these same hateful control freaks to even
endorse a god and then profess to speak for this god is
utterly sickening!
Which is why I think I'm being very fair and accurate
when I refer to such people as "PSEUDO-Christians."
Jesus' PRIME Directive was a COMMAND to His followers
to show love and compassion to their neighbors.
Which makes sense!
No one in history was ever MORE sensible. Or compassionate.
... Which the Anti-Choicers purporting to be Christians
either PURPOSELY ignore, or are totally IGNORANT of, in
their pursuit of a hateful agenda that would TRASH all those
millions of their neighbors.
It is deliberate attempt to destroy the religion and the spirits
of those who are avid and true followers of the faith. How
unfortunate.
For sure. By guising themselves as "Christians," the PSEUDO-
Christian cultists of the Religious Radical Right (in which MOST of
the Anti-Choicers are found), they lyingly cloak themselves in that
mantle of respectability. Unfortunately, that has COST Christianity
its respectability in the eyes of the tens of millions of Americans
who have not been discerning enough to recognize that the RRR
Cult in NO WAY is the *least bit* representative of Christianity.
Christianity is FAIR-minded.
The RRR Cult is NARROW-minded.
Christianity is CONSIDERATE.
The RRR Cult is control-freakish.
Christianity follows what the Bible SAYS.
The RRR Cult cooks up its own false doctrine, and
IGNORES everything in the Bible that conflicts with it.
The Bible says NOTHING about (or against) abortion.
The RRR cultists pretend that it does.
Jesus' Prime Directive: Love and have compassion for neighbors.
The RRR cult seeks to TRASH millions of women.
The Bible appointed NO Enforcers of its precepts upon society.
The RRR cult acts as though it appointed THEM to be.
And to add insult to *that* injury, they THEN seek to
IMPOSE their false dogmas (such as opposition to
abortion) upon society AS THOUGH they were biblical.
The Bible warns of "False Teachers" that will come in our day.
The leaders of the RRR cult FIT the criteria for that
PERFECTLY. And *most* people don't even recognize
them for what they are. (Which is logical; what false
teacher worth his salt would *identify* himself as such?
To the contrary, they all would CON as many people as
possible into believing that they're Jesus' gift to our
generation.)
GENUINE Christians and the RRR cultists, who PURPORT to be
Christians, are as different as day and night.
The Bible says that "by their fruits" people shall be known.
The fruits of GENUINE Christians are kindness, fair-mindedness,
consideration, charity, and honesty.
The fruits of the RRR cultists are repression, deception, and
hatefulness.
As an ENORMOUS service BOTH to Jesus AND to His two billion
followers, worldwide, it is necessary to EDUCATE society about this
massive and hateful deception on the part of the cultists.
These cultists are found primarily within the USA, and to a lesser
degree, Canada. In America, if they are *regarded* as Christians,
they comprise only a mere 1% of them. Of the remaining 99%,
most are *genuine* Christians -- although a few million of those are
passive sympathizers with the cultists. Probably because they don't
realize how wrong the RRR cult is, and have fallen for much of their
disinformation. The RRR Cult's leaders are masters of psychological
deception. (And ONE of those, James Dobson, even is *introduced*
in his daily "Focus on the Family" show on Christian radio as a
"psychologist." HE's not even a clergyman.)
All in the supposed "defense" of entities that are the SAME as
sperm and ova -- which they DON'T defend -- in all important ways:
human, unique, a stage of development *without* which there would
be NO births, NON-sentient, and alive.
It seems that it is easier to defend an imaginary person then to
actually
go out of their way to defend an actual person. This would require that
they use their personal resources and time, which is something they are
unwilling to give, but expect everyone else to do so.
They are the epitome of selfishness and irrationality.
Even though the Bible covers WELL just about every "moral" issue
people could imagine -- all the way down to fortune-telling (!!), it
never MENTIONS abortion... NEVER *defends* human entities that
have not been born... directs ALL of the defense of human life that it
DOES contain, at people who have been BORN... and ascribes
TREMENDOUS importance to BIRTH order.
Leaving the Anti-Choice pseudo-Christians WITHOUT excuse.
But they still seem to find the excuses! I have to say, at least
they are
creative.
They "need" to be. Since not one single FACT supports their
hateful and mindless agenda. So they rant, rave, whine, play on the
emotions of the gullible, equivocate, employ semantic word-games, lie,
and propagandize. And after a person wades through all of that in
search for *any* FACTS that they may have brought to bear in the
midst of it -- he/she finds that NO supporting facts have been presented.
So -- we are dealing with people who are USUALLY hypocritical,
USUALLY bone-ignorant, and ALWAYS hateful and mindless.
And then they WONDER why they are America's laughingstock.
LOL.
Krisbam
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
Gee, since you hate Christians so much,...
[[[ READERS: Thanks to this knee-jerk response, (and one
that reveals his total *denial* of the reality,)
when it comes to the sheer IGNORANCE of
the RRR Cult's lemmings, I rest my case. ]]]
.. maybe you should strap a bomb onto your waist and walk into
a church. This way you can make yourself a martyr AND get rid of
some Christians in the process!
[[[ READERS: And in that comment, we see how truly
delusional and/or brainwashed they are.
And the stark difference between RRR
cultists -- who are comprised of utterly
UN-Christian pretenders (who thus give
Christianity a bad name) and bone-ignor-
ant (literally, unfortunately) actual
Christians who've been deceived and
deluded by the hate-swill propaganda
that incessantly is being spewed by the
RRR's oligarchical leadership -- and
actual (sensible, fair-minded, Biblically-
informed, and egalitarian) Christians who
do their best to act as CHRIST taught us
to do. A night-and-day difference. And
at bottom, we have Jerry Falwell to blame
for that radical schism/dichotomy/split
that's so night-and-day obvious. Since
he STARTED the RRR Cult 30 years ago
with his so-called "Moral Majority." Which
was never even *remotely* either one. ]]]
P.S. -- By his TOP-posting of his ludicrous response, he
attempted the ploy so often used by those of his
ilk... AVOIDANCE of any apparent need to
respond to any of the points made in the post.
Just another way that RRR Cultists prove their
dishonesty and cowardice. The reality is that
there is NO WAY that he even *could* have made
an intelligent rebuttal to the points made in the
above post. And anyone who attempts it will
accomplish no more than to prove, once again,
how muddled and ignorant he truly is. NO FACTS
exist that *can* disprove any of the above-made
points.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
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| User: "G-Net" |
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| Title: Re: The RRR Cult vs. Christianity |
23 May 2006 08:12:05 AM |
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I would LOVE to know what gives YOU the authority, right, or knowledge to
determine who is and who is not a "Christian"? Only God can "see" a man's
heart. So are you saying that you are like God?
"Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"
<xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 May 2006 12:25:58 GMT,
"G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote:
<< Ignorantly TOP-posted material moved to its
proper location. Strike One, for him! >>
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
<krisbam@freemail.absa.co.za> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@home.com> wrote:
Krisbam <Krisbam@altavista.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@home.com> wrote:
dk <dkandrews@worldinter.net> wrote:
May GOD forgive the USA of partial birth abortion. )-:
The above is your submission for:
"ASININE Comment of the Day," right?
Yup...
Suggest perhaps, that we ask God, INSTEAD, to
forgive the HATEFUL people who seek for impose
immense hardship upon tens of millions of women by
FORCING childbirth upon them, against their will.
And to think these same hateful control freaks to even
endorse a god and then profess to speak for this god is
utterly sickening!
Which is why I think I'm being very fair and accurate
when I refer to such people as "PSEUDO-Christians."
Jesus' PRIME Directive was a COMMAND to His followers
to show love and compassion to their neighbors.
Which makes sense!
No one in history was ever MORE sensible. Or compassionate.
... Which the Anti-Choicers purporting to be Christians
either PURPOSELY ignore, or are totally IGNORANT of, in
their pursuit of a hateful agenda that would TRASH all those
millions of their neighbors.
It is deliberate attempt to destroy the religion and the spirits
of those who are avid and true followers of the faith. How
unfortunate.
For sure. By guising themselves as "Christians," the PSEUDO-
Christian cultists of the Religious Radical Right (in which MOST of
the Anti-Choicers are found), they lyingly cloak themselves in that
mantle of respectability. Unfortunately, that has COST Christianity
its respectability in the eyes of the tens of millions of Americans
who have not been discerning enough to recognize that the RRR
Cult in NO WAY is the *least bit* representative of Christianity.
Christianity is FAIR-minded.
The RRR Cult is NARROW-minded.
Christianity is CONSIDERATE.
The RRR Cult is control-freakish.
Christianity follows what the Bible SAYS.
The RRR Cult cooks up its own false doctrine, and
IGNORES everything in the Bible that conflicts with it.
The Bible says NOTHING about (or against) abortion.
The RRR cultists pretend that it does.
Jesus' Prime Directive: Love and have compassion for neighbors.
The RRR cult seeks to TRASH millions of women.
The Bible appointed NO Enforcers of its precepts upon society.
The RRR cult acts as though it appointed THEM to be.
And to add insult to *that* injury, they THEN seek to
IMPOSE their false dogmas (such as opposition to
abortion) upon society AS THOUGH they were biblical.
The Bible warns of "False Teachers" that will come in our day.
The leaders of the RRR cult FIT the criteria for that
PERFECTLY. And *most* people don't even recognize
them for what they are. (Which is logical; what false
teacher worth his salt would *identify* himself as such?
To the contrary, they all would CON as many people as
possible into believing that they're Jesus' gift to our
generation.)
GENUINE Christians and the RRR cultists, who PURPORT to be
Christians, are as different as day and night.
The Bible says that "by their fruits" people shall be known.
The fruits of GENUINE Christians are kindness, fair-mindedness,
consideration, charity, and honesty.
The fruits of the RRR cultists are repression, deception, and
hatefulness.
As an ENORMOUS service BOTH to Jesus AND to His two billion
followers, worldwide, it is necessary to EDUCATE society about this
massive and hateful deception on the part of the cultists.
These cultists are found primarily within the USA, and to a lesser
degree, Canada. In America, if they are *regarded* as Christians,
they comprise only a mere 1% of them. Of the remaining 99%,
most are *genuine* Christians -- although a few million of those are
passive sympathizers with the cultists. Probably because they don't
realize how wrong the RRR cult is, and have fallen for much of their
disinformation. The RRR Cult's leaders are masters of psychological
deception. (And ONE of those, James Dobson, even is *introduced*
in his daily "Focus on the Family" show on Christian radio as a
"psychologist." HE's not even a clergyman.)
All in the supposed "defense" of entities that are the SAME as
sperm and ova -- which they DON'T defend -- in all important ways:
human, unique, a stage of development *without* which there would
be NO births, NON-sentient, and alive.
It seems that it is easier to defend an imaginary person then to
actually
go out of their way to defend an actual person. This would require that
they use their personal resources and time, which is something they are
unwilling to give, but expect everyone else to do so.
They are the epitome of selfishness and irrationality.
Even though the Bible covers WELL just about every "moral" issue
people could imagine -- all the way down to fortune-telling (!!), it
never MENTIONS abortion... NEVER *defends* human entities that
have not been born... directs ALL of the defense of human life that it
DOES contain, at people who have been BORN... and ascribes
TREMENDOUS importance to BIRTH order.
Leaving the Anti-Choice pseudo-Christians WITHOUT excuse.
But they still seem to find the excuses! I have to say, at least
they are
creative.
They "need" to be. Since not one single FACT supports their
hateful and mindless agenda. So they rant, rave, whine, play on the
emotions of the gullible, equivocate, employ semantic word-games, lie,
and propagandize. And after a person wades through all of that in
search for *any* FACTS that they may have brought to bear in the
midst of it -- he/she finds that NO supporting facts have been
presented.
So -- we are dealing with people who are USUALLY hypocritical,
USUALLY bone-ignorant, and ALWAYS hateful and mindless.
And then they WONDER why they are America's laughingstock.
LOL.
Krisbam
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
Gee, since you hate Christians so much,...
[[[ READERS: Thanks to this knee-jerk response, (and one
that reveals his total *denial* of the reality,)
when it comes to the sheer IGNORANCE of
the RRR Cult's lemmings, I rest my case. ]]]
.. maybe you should strap a bomb onto your waist and walk into
a church. This way you can make yourself a martyr AND get rid of
some Christians in the process!
[[[ READERS: And in that comment, we see how truly
delusional and/or brainwashed they are.
And the stark difference between RRR
cultists -- who are comprised of utterly
UN-Christian pretenders (who thus give
Christianity a bad name) and bone-ignor-
ant (literally, unfortunately) actual
Christians who've been deceived and
deluded by the hate-swill propaganda
that incessantly is being spewed by the
RRR's oligarchical leadership -- and
actual (sensible, fair-minded, Biblically-
informed, and egalitarian) Christians who
do their best to act as CHRIST taught us
to do. A night-and-day difference. And
at bottom, we have Jerry Falwell to blame
for that radical schism/dichotomy/split
that's so night-and-day obvious. Since
he STARTED the RRR Cult 30 years ago
with his so-called "Moral Majority." Which
was never even *remotely* either one. ]]]
P.S. -- By his TOP-posting of his ludicrous response, he
attempted the ploy so often used by those of his
ilk... AVOIDANCE of any apparent need to
respond to any of the points made in the post.
Just another way that RRR Cultists prove their
dishonesty and cowardice. The reality is that
there is NO WAY that he even *could* have made
an intelligent rebuttal to the points made in the
above post. And anyone who attempts it will
accomplish no more than to prove, once again,
how muddled and ignorant he truly is. NO FACTS
exist that *can* disprove any of the above-made
points.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
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| User: "Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!" |
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23 May 2006 09:50:22 AM |
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On Tue, 23 May 2006 13:12:05 GMT,
"G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> INANELY
and dishonestly TOP-posted again ---
(But in this case, that's not a problem. The material
from the previous post wasn't needed in order to
respond to this.)
I would LOVE to know what gives YOU the authority,
right, or knowledge to determine who is and who is not
a "Christian"? Only God can "see" a man's heart. So are
you saying that you are like God?
*I* make no such determination. Jesus, and the Bible
makes it crystal-clear what it takes to become a Christian.
NO lemming (or worse, leader) of the RRR Cult behaves
as Jesus taught. Jesus taught NO hatefulness or bigotry.
The loathsome hate-agendas of that fetid cult are ANATHEMA
to everything Jesus stood for and taught.
RRR Cultists are either of these, and nothing else:
-- PSEUDO-Christians who have never accepted Christ.
-- ACTUAL Christians who have fallen for and become
deluded by the hate-propaganda of the RRR Cult's
leaders. (Most of the time, only fairly-low IQ folks
are the ones who aren't perceptive enough to see
through those lies, so they are being victimized by
the RRR Cult's leadership, and are to be pitied.
-- NON-Christians (e.g., movie critic Michael Medved,
who is Jewish) who support the cult's mindless and
hateful agendas.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
---
RRR Cult lemmings.
Dumber than dirt. America's own version of the Taliban.
Selfishly, hatefully, and mindlessly supporting sociopathic
agendas that seek to destroy vital personal liberties of
millions of people. (That's as dumb as it GETS!!!)
And constantly proving that to everyone.
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| User: "Attila" |
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| Title: Re: The RRR Cult vs. Christianity |
23 May 2006 04:43:07 PM |
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On Tue, 23 May 2006 13:12:05 GMT, "G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> in
alt.abortion with message-id <FSDcg.7259$ix2.2439@trnddc03> wrote:
"Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"
<xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:kl167259522qij4orqjbvr1ic7f5riqta6@4ax.com...
On Tue, 23 May 2006 12:25:58 GMT,
"G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote:
<< Ignorantly TOP-posted material moved to its
proper location. Strike One, for him! >>
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
<krisbam@freemail.absa.co.za> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@home.com> wrote:
Krisbam <Krisbam@altavista.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@home.com> wrote:
dk <dkandrews@worldinter.net> wrote:
May GOD forgive the USA of partial birth abortion. )-:
The above is your submission for:
"ASININE Comment of the Day," right?
Yup...
Suggest perhaps, that we ask God, INSTEAD, to
forgive the HATEFUL people who seek for impose
immense hardship upon tens of millions of women by
FORCING childbirth upon them, against their will.
And to think these same hateful control freaks to even
endorse a god and then profess to speak for this god is
utterly sickening!
Which is why I think I'm being very fair and accurate
when I refer to such people as "PSEUDO-Christians."
Jesus' PRIME Directive was a COMMAND to His followers
to show love and compassion to their neighbors.
Which makes sense!
No one in history was ever MORE sensible. Or compassionate.
... Which the Anti-Choicers purporting to be Christians
either PURPOSELY ignore, or are totally IGNORANT of, in
their pursuit of a hateful agenda that would TRASH all those
millions of their neighbors.
It is deliberate attempt to destroy the religion and the spirits
of those who are avid and true followers of the faith. How
unfortunate.
For sure. By guising themselves as "Christians," the PSEUDO-
Christian cultists of the Religious Radical Right (in which MOST of
the Anti-Choicers are found), they lyingly cloak themselves in that
mantle of respectability. Unfortunately, that has COST Christianity
its respectability in the eyes of the tens of millions of Americans
who have not been discerning enough to recognize that the RRR
Cult in NO WAY is the *least bit* representative of Christianity.
Christianity is FAIR-minded.
The RRR Cult is NARROW-minded.
Christianity is CONSIDERATE.
The RRR Cult is control-freakish.
Christianity follows what the Bible SAYS.
The RRR Cult cooks up its own false doctrine, and
IGNORES everything in the Bible that conflicts with it.
The Bible says NOTHING about (or against) abortion.
The RRR cultists pretend that it does.
Jesus' Prime Directive: Love and have compassion for neighbors.
The RRR cult seeks to TRASH millions of women.
The Bible appointed NO Enforcers of its precepts upon society.
The RRR cult acts as though it appointed THEM to be.
And to add insult to *that* injury, they THEN seek to
IMPOSE their false dogmas (such as opposition to
abortion) upon society AS THOUGH they were biblical.
The Bible warns of "False Teachers" that will come in our day.
The leaders of the RRR cult FIT the criteria for that
PERFECTLY. And *most* people don't even recognize
them for what they are. (Which is logical; what false
teacher worth his salt would *identify* himself as such?
To the contrary, they all would CON as many people as
possible into believing that they're Jesus' gift to our
generation.)
GENUINE Christians and the RRR cultists, who PURPORT to be
Christians, are as different as day and night.
The Bible says that "by their fruits" people shall be known.
The fruits of GENUINE Christians are kindness, fair-mindedness,
consideration, charity, and honesty.
The fruits of the RRR cultists are repression, deception, and
hatefulness.
As an ENORMOUS service BOTH to Jesus AND to His two billion
followers, worldwide, it is necessary to EDUCATE society about this
massive and hateful deception on the part of the cultists.
These cultists are found primarily within the USA, and to a lesser
degree, Canada. In America, if they are *regarded* as Christians,
they comprise only a mere 1% of them. Of the remaining 99%,
most are *genuine* Christians -- although a few million of those are
passive sympathizers with the cultists. Probably because they don't
realize how wrong the RRR cult is, and have fallen for much of their
disinformation. The RRR Cult's leaders are masters of psychological
deception. (And ONE of those, James Dobson, even is *introduced*
in his daily "Focus on the Family" show on Christian radio as a
"psychologist." HE's not even a clergyman.)
All in the supposed "defense" of entities that are the SAME as
sperm and ova -- which they DON'T defend -- in all important ways:
human, unique, a stage of development *without* which there would
be NO births, NON-sentient, and alive.
It seems that it is easier to defend an imaginary person then to
actually
go out of their way to defend an actual person. This would require that
they use their personal resources and time, which is something they are
unwilling to give, but expect everyone else to do so.
They are the epitome of selfishness and irrationality.
Even though the Bible covers WELL just about every "moral" issue
people could imagine -- all the way down to fortune-telling (!!), it
never MENTIONS abortion... NEVER *defends* human entities that
have not been born... directs ALL of the defense of human life that it
DOES contain, at people who have been BORN... and ascribes
TREMENDOUS importance to BIRTH order.
Leaving the Anti-Choice pseudo-Christians WITHOUT excuse.
But they still seem to find the excuses! I have to say, at least
they are
creative.
They "need" to be. Since not one single FACT supports their
hateful and mindless agenda. So they rant, rave, whine, play on the
emotions of the gullible, equivocate, employ semantic word-games, lie,
and propagandize. And after a person wades through all of that in
search for *any* FACTS that they may have brought to bear in the
midst of it -- he/she finds that NO supporting facts have been
presented.
So -- we are dealing with people who are USUALLY hypocritical,
USUALLY bone-ignorant, and ALWAYS hateful and mindless.
And then they WONDER why they are America's laughingstock.
LOL.
Krisbam
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
Gee, since you hate Christians so much,...
[[[ READERS: Thanks to this knee-jerk response, (and one
that reveals his total *denial* of the reality,)
when it comes to the sheer IGNORANCE of
the RRR Cult's lemmings, I rest my case. ]]]
.. maybe you should strap a bomb onto your waist and walk into
a church. This way you can make yourself a martyr AND get rid of
some Christians in the process!
[[[ READERS: And in that comment, we see how truly
delusional and/or brainwashed they are.
And the stark difference between RRR
cultists -- who are comprised of utterly
UN-Christian pretenders (who thus give
Christianity a bad name) and bone-ignor-
ant (literally, unfortunately) actual
Christians who've been deceived and
deluded by the hate-swill propaganda
that incessantly is being spewed by the
RRR's oligarchical leadership -- and
actual (sensible, fair-minded, Biblically-
informed, and egalitarian) Christians who
do their best to act as CHRIST taught us
to do. A night-and-day difference. And
at bottom, we have Jerry Falwell to blame
for that radical schism/dichotomy/split
that's so night-and-day obvious. Since
he STARTED the RRR Cult 30 years ago
with his so-called "Moral Majority." Which
was never even *remotely* either one. ]]]
P.S. -- By his TOP-posting of his ludicrous response, he
attempted the ploy so often used by those of his
ilk... AVOIDANCE of any apparent need to
respond to any of the points made in the post.
Just another way that RRR Cultists prove their
dishonesty and cowardice. The reality is that
there is NO WAY that he even *could* have made
an intelligent rebuttal to the points made in the
above post. And anyone who attempts it will
accomplish no more than to prove, once again,
how muddled and ignorant he truly is. NO FACTS
exist that *can* disprove any of the above-made
points.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
I would LOVE to know what gives YOU the authority, right, or knowledge to
determine who is and who is not a "Christian"? Only God can "see" a man's
heart. So are you saying that you are like God?
Prove any god exists.
This link explains what top posting is and why it is bad.
http://www.dickalba.demon.co.uk/usenet/guide/faq_topp.html
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| User: "Eraser" |
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| Title: Re: The RRR Cult vs. Christianity |
24 May 2006 12:51:37 PM |
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Attila wrote:
On Tue, 23 May 2006 13:12:05 GMT, "G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> in
alt.abortion with message-id <FSDcg.7259$ix2.2439@trnddc03> wrote:
"Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"
<snip for space>
P.S. -- By his TOP-posting of his ludicrous response, he
attempted the ploy so often used by those of his
ilk... AVOIDANCE of any apparent need to
respond to any of the points made in the post.
Just another way that RRR Cultists prove their
dishonesty and cowardice. The reality is that
there is NO WAY that he even *could* have made
an intelligent rebuttal to the points made in the
above post. And anyone who attempts it will
accomplish no more than to prove, once again,
how muddled and ignorant he truly is. NO FACTS
exist that *can* disprove any of the above-made
points.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
I would LOVE to know what gives YOU the authority, right, or knowledge to
determine who is and who is not a "Christian"? Only God can "see" a man's
heart. So are you saying that you are like God?
Prove any god exists.
Why the ***** should they? In the context of the debate between Chilton
& G-Net, the presumption of an existent God seems to be a given...to
which both parties agree. Why should they give a ***** about your need
for proof of something which is not even a point of contention between
them?
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| User: "BOB" |
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| Title: Re: The RRR Cult vs. Christianity |
24 May 2006 02:26:12 PM |
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"Eraser" <eraser92156@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1148493097.621087.153420@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Attila wrote:
On Tue, 23 May 2006 13:12:05 GMT, "G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> in
alt.abortion with message-id <FSDcg.7259$ix2.2439@trnddc03> wrote:
"Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"
<snip for space>
P.S. -- By his TOP-posting of his ludicrous response, he
attempted the ploy so often used by those of his
ilk... AVOIDANCE of any apparent need to
respond to any of the points made in the post.
Just another way that RRR Cultists prove their
dishonesty and cowardice. The reality is that
there is NO WAY that he even *could* have made
an intelligent rebuttal to the points made in the
above post. And anyone who attempts it will
accomplish no more than to prove, once again,
how muddled and ignorant he truly is. NO FACTS
exist that *can* disprove any of the above-made
points.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
I would LOVE to know what gives YOU the authority, right, or
knowledge to determine who is and who is not a "Christian"? Only God
can "see" a man's heart. So are you saying that you are like God?
Prove any god exists.
Why the ***** should they? In the context of the debate between
Chilton & G-Net, the presumption of an existent God seems to be a
given...to which both parties agree. Why should they give a *****
about your need for proof of something which is not even a point of
contention between them?
No need to make excuses, Evasive, just simply admit that you cannot
provide any proof. Neither can anyone else so don't be ashamed.
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| User: "Eraser" |
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| Title: Re: The RRR Cult vs. Christianity |
24 May 2006 02:40:20 PM |
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BOB wrote:
"Eraser" <eraser92156@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1148493097.621087.153420@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Attila wrote:
On Tue, 23 May 2006 13:12:05 GMT, "G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> in
alt.abortion with message-id <FSDcg.7259$ix2.2439@trnddc03> wrote:
"Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"
<snip for space>
P.S. -- By his TOP-posting of his ludicrous response, he
attempted the ploy so often used by those of his
ilk... AVOIDANCE of any apparent need to
respond to any of the points made in the post.
Just another way that RRR Cultists prove their
dishonesty and cowardice. The reality is that
there is NO WAY that he even *could* have made
an intelligent rebuttal to the points made in the
above post. And anyone who attempts it will
accomplish no more than to prove, once again,
how muddled and ignorant he truly is. NO FACTS
exist that *can* disprove any of the above-made
points.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
I would LOVE to know what gives YOU the authority, right, or
knowledge to determine who is and who is not a "Christian"? Only God
can "see" a man's heart. So are you saying that you are like God?
Prove any god exists.
Why the ***** should they? In the context of the debate between
Chilton & G-Net, the presumption of an existent God seems to be a
given...to which both parties agree. Why should they give a *****
about your need for proof of something which is not even a point of
contention between them?
No need to make excuses, Evasive, just simply admit that you cannot
provide any proof. Neither can anyone else so don't be ashamed.
Once again....who gives a *****?!? Maybe I can make a strong case for
the existence of God...maybe not. It simply has no bearing on the
debate between Chilton & G-Net. What we have here are two individuals
who apparently believe that God exists, and who are debating the way in
which one should conduct their life as a God-believer. Tell me why
these two theists should give a rat's ***** vis-a-vis a diversionary
question posed by an atheist which bears little relevancy to the
discussion at hand.
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| User: "BOB" |
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| Title: Re: The RRR Cult vs. Christianity |
24 May 2006 03:19:16 PM |
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"Eraser" <eraser92156@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1148499619.949372.179370
@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
BOB wrote:
"Eraser" <eraser92156@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1148493097.621087.153420@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Attila wrote:
On Tue, 23 May 2006 13:12:05 GMT, "G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> in
alt.abortion with message-id <FSDcg.7259$ix2.2439@trnddc03> wrote:
"Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"
<snip for space>
P.S. -- By his TOP-posting of his ludicrous response, he
attempted the ploy so often used by those of his
ilk... AVOIDANCE of any apparent need to
respond to any of the points made in the post.
Just another way that RRR Cultists prove their
dishonesty and cowardice. The reality is that
there is NO WAY that he even *could* have made
an intelligent rebuttal to the points made in the
above post. And anyone who attempts it will
accomplish no more than to prove, once again,
how muddled and ignorant he truly is. NO FACTS
exist that *can* disprove any of the above-made
points.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
I would LOVE to know what gives YOU the authority, right, or
knowledge to determine who is and who is not a "Christian"? Only
God
can "see" a man's heart. So are you saying that you are like God?
Prove any god exists.
Why the ***** should they? In the context of the debate between
Chilton & G-Net, the presumption of an existent God seems to be a
given...to which both parties agree. Why should they give a *****
about your need for proof of something which is not even a point of
contention between them?
No need to make excuses, Evasive, just simply admit that you cannot
provide any proof. Neither can anyone else so don't be ashamed.
Once again....who gives a *****?!?
You do, trashmouth, otherwise you would provide your phony "proof".
Maybe I can make a strong case for
the existence of God...maybe not.
Not.
It simply has no bearing on the
debate between Chilton & G-Net.
Forget that debate and show your "proof", Evasive.
What we have here are two individuals
who apparently believe that God exists, and who are debating the way in
which one should conduct their life as a God-believer.
Faith is faith, in spite of facts (or lack thereof).
Tell me why
these two theists should give a rat's ***** vis-a-vis a diversionary
question posed by an atheist which bears little relevancy to the
discussion at hand.
Forget them, Evasive, you porvide the "proof" if you can. The smart
money says you can't. Nobody ever has nor ever will.
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| User: "BOB" |
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| Title: Re: The RRR Cult vs. Christianity |
24 May 2006 02:28:44 PM |
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"Eraser" <eraser92156@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1148493097.621087.153420@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Attila wrote:
On Tue, 23 May 2006 13:12:05 GMT, "G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> in
alt.abortion with message-id <FSDcg.7259$ix2.2439@trnddc03> wrote:
"Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"
<snip for space>
P.S. -- By his TOP-posting of his ludicrous response, he
attempted the ploy so often used by those of his
ilk... AVOIDANCE of any apparent need to
respond to any of the points made in the post.
Just another way that RRR Cultists prove their
dishonesty and cowardice. The reality is that
there is NO WAY that he even *could* have made
an intelligent rebuttal to the points made in the
above post. And anyone who attempts it will
accomplish no more than to prove, once again,
how muddled and ignorant he truly is. NO FACTS
exist that *can* disprove any of the above-made
points.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
I would LOVE to know what gives YOU the authority, right, or
knowledge to determine who is and who is not a "Christian"? Only God
can "see" a man's heart. So are you saying that you are like God?
Prove any god exists.
Why the ***** should they? In the context of the debate between
Chilton & G-Net, the presumption of an existent God seems to be a
given...to which both parties agree. Why should they give a *****
about your need for proof of something which is not even a point of
contention between them?
No need to make excuses, Evasive, just simply admit that you cannot
provide any proof. Neither can anyone else so don't be ashamed.
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| Title: Re: The RRR Cult vs. Christianity |
24 May 2006 03:22:28 PM |
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"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns97CD7EF3E323SD@70.169.32.36...
"Eraser" <eraser92156@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1148493097.621087.153420@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Attila wrote:
On Tue, 23 May 2006 13:12:05 GMT, "G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> in
alt.abortion with message-id <FSDcg.7259$ix2.2439@trnddc03> wrote:
"Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"
<snip for space>
P.S. -- By his TOP-posting of his ludicrous response, he
attempted the ploy so often used by those of his
ilk... AVOIDANCE of any apparent need to
respond to any of the points made in the post.
Just another way that RRR Cultists prove their
dishonesty and cowardice. The reality is that
there is NO WAY that he even *could* have made
an intelligent rebuttal to the points made in the
above post. And anyone who attempts it will
accomplish no more than to prove, once again,
how muddled and ignorant he truly is. NO FACTS
exist that *can* disprove any of the above-made
points.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
I would LOVE to know what gives YOU the authority, right, or
knowledge to determine who is and who is not a "Christian"? Only God
can "see" a man's heart. So are you saying that you are like God?
Prove any god exists.
Why the ***** should they? In the context of the debate between
Chilton & G-Net, the presumption of an existent God seems to be a
given...to which both parties agree. Why should they give a *****
about your need for proof of something which is not even a point of
contention between them?
No need to make excuses, Evasive, just simply admit that you cannot
provide any proof. Neither can anyone else so don't be ashamed.
The believer has no obligation whatsoever to the unbeliever. Your lack of
knowledge and/or belief isn't the believer's problem. In reality, no amount
of truth or proof would convince them anyway.
"The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness
and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what
may be know about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to
them. For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities-his
eternal power and devine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood
from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave
thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts
were darkened." - Romans 1:18 - 21 NIV
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| User: "BOB" |
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| Title: Re: The RRR Cult vs. Christianity |
24 May 2006 03:32:49 PM |
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"G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote in
news:8g3dg.57023$ge7.56103@trnddc01:
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
news:Xns97CD7EF3E323SD@70.169.32.36...
"Eraser" <eraser92156@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1148493097.621087.153420@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Attila wrote:
On Tue, 23 May 2006 13:12:05 GMT, "G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> in
alt.abortion with message-id <FSDcg.7259$ix2.2439@trnddc03> wrote:
"Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"
<snip for space>
P.S. -- By his TOP-posting of his ludicrous response, he
attempted the ploy so often used by those of his
ilk... AVOIDANCE of any apparent need to
respond to any of the points made in the post.
Just another way that RRR Cultists prove their
dishonesty and cowardice. The reality is that
there is NO WAY that he even *could* have made
an intelligent rebuttal to the points made in the
above post. And anyone who attempts it will
accomplish no more than to prove, once again,
how muddled and ignorant he truly is. NO FACTS
exist that *can* disprove any of the above-made
points.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
I would LOVE to know what gives YOU the authority, right, or
knowledge to determine who is and who is not a "Christian"? Only
God can "see" a man's heart. So are you saying that you are like
God?
Prove any god exists.
Why the ***** should they? In the context of the debate between
Chilton & G-Net, the presumption of an existent God seems to be a
given...to which both parties agree. Why should they give a *****
about your need for proof of something which is not even a point of
contention between them?
No need to make excuses, Evasive, just simply admit that you cannot
provide any proof. Neither can anyone else so don't be ashamed.
The believer has no obligation whatsoever to the unbeliever.
Then why do you keep claiming your "god" exists if you aren't willing to
back it up with some real evidence, G-String?
Your lack
of knowledge and/or belief isn't the believer's problem.
No, your real problem is beliving in something that doesn't exist, G-
String. It's a mental health thing.
In reality,
no amount of truth or proof would convince them anyway.
Because there isn't any, not even a smidgen, G-String.
"The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the
godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their
wickedness, since what may be know about God is plain to them, because
God has made it plain to them.
Since you religious kooks are the epitomy of godlessness and wickedness,
you should know, G-String.
For since the creation of the world
God's invisible qualities-his eternal power and devine nature-have
been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that
men are without excuse.
You religious kooks seem to have plenty excuses for not being able to
prove your mythical "god" exists, G-String.
For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave
thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish
hearts were darkened." - Romans 1:18 - 21 NIV
How can you tell that your "heart is darkened" G-String"? Your brain is
obviously mush.
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| User: "G-Net" |
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| Title: Re: The RRR Cult vs. Christianity |
24 May 2006 04:03:54 PM |
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"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns97CD89D1938F9SD@70.169.32.36...
"G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote in
news:8g3dg.57023$ge7.56103@trnddc01:
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
news:Xns97CD7EF3E323SD@70.169.32.36...
"Eraser" <eraser92156@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1148493097.621087.153420@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Attila wrote:
On Tue, 23 May 2006 13:12:05 GMT, "G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> in
alt.abortion with message-id <FSDcg.7259$ix2.2439@trnddc03> wrote:
"Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"
<snip for space>
P.S. -- By his TOP-posting of his ludicrous response, he
attempted the ploy so often used by those of his
ilk... AVOIDANCE of any apparent need to
respond to any of the points made in the post.
Just another way that RRR Cultists prove their
dishonesty and cowardice. The reality is that
there is NO WAY that he even *could* have made
an intelligent rebuttal to the points made in the
above post. And anyone who attempts it will
accomplish no more than to prove, once again,
how muddled and ignorant he truly is. NO FACTS
exist that *can* disprove any of the above-made
points.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
I would LOVE to know what gives YOU the authority, right, or
knowledge to determine who is and who is not a "Christian"? Only
God can "see" a man's heart. So are you saying that you are like
God?
Prove any god exists.
Why the ***** should they? In the context of the debate between
Chilton & G-Net, the presumption of an existent God seems to be a
given...to which both parties agree. Why should they give a *****
about your need for proof of something which is not even a point of
contention between them?
No need to make excuses, Evasive, just simply admit that you cannot
provide any proof. Neither can anyone else so don't be ashamed.
The believer has no obligation whatsoever to the unbeliever.
Then why do you keep claiming your "god" exists if you aren't willing to
back it up with some real evidence, G-String?
God does exist, but He isn't just MY god, He is THE God. I'm not willing to
"back it up with real evidence" for the same reason I won't jump off a
bridge just to prove a point. I don't know you, don't owe you anything, and
couldn't care less whether you believe in God or not. As I said before, your
unbelief is not my problem.
Your lack
of knowledge and/or belief isn't the believer's problem.
No, your real problem is beliving in something that doesn't exist, G-
String. It's a mental health thing.
Like I said, I don't have a problem. You are the one demanding for proof
because you cannot see what is plain.
In reality,
no amount of truth or proof would convince them anyway.
Because there isn't any, not even a smidgen, G-String.
Again, your thoughts, not mine. There is evidence but you can't see it.
"The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the
godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their
wickedness, since what may be know about God is plain to them, because
God has made it plain to them.
Since you religious kooks are the epitomy of godlessness and wickedness,
you should know, G-String.
So, you think YOU are the final determination of "godlessness and
wickedness"? Another sign of that "darkened heart" that scripture talks
about.
For since the creation of the world
God's invisible qualities-his eternal power and devine nature-have
been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that
men are without excuse.
You religious kooks seem to have plenty excuses for not being able to
prove your mythical "god" exists, G-String.
....And you unbeliever's have plenty of excuses for why you are unable to see
what is plain.
For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave
thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish
hearts were darkened." - Romans 1:18 - 21 NIV
How can you tell that your "heart is darkened" G-String"? Your brain is
obviously mush.
How can you tell? When something is written out in plain english and yet you
cannot or will not understand it.
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| User: "BOB" |
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| Title: Re: The RRR Cult vs. Christianity |
24 May 2006 08:06:53 PM |
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"G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote in
news:_S3dg.9041$ix2.3300@trnddc03:
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
news:Xns97CD89D1938F9SD@70.169.32.36...
"G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote in
news:8g3dg.57023$ge7.56103@trnddc01:
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
news:Xns97CD7EF3E323SD@70.169.32.36...
"Eraser" <eraser92156@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1148493097.621087.153420@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Attila wrote:
On Tue, 23 May 2006 13:12:05 GMT, "G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net>
in alt.abortion with message-id <FSDcg.7259$ix2.2439@trnddc03>
wrote:
"Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"
<snip for space>
P.S. -- By his TOP-posting of his ludicrous response, he
attempted the ploy so often used by those of his
ilk... AVOIDANCE of any apparent need to
respond to any of the points made in the post.
Just another way that RRR Cultists prove their
dishonesty and cowardice. The reality is that
there is NO WAY that he even *could* have made
an intelligent rebuttal to the points made in the
above post. And anyone who attempts it will
accomplish no more than to prove, once again,
how muddled and ignorant he truly is. NO FACTS
exist that *can* disprove any of the above-made
points.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
I would LOVE to know what gives YOU the authority, right, or
knowledge to determine who is and who is not a "Christian"? Only
God can "see" a man's heart. So are you saying that you are like
God?
Prove any god exists.
Why the ***** should they? In the context of the debate between
Chilton & G-Net, the presumption of an existent God seems to be a
given...to which both parties agree. Why should they give a *****
about your need for proof of something which is not even a point
of contention between them?
No need to make excuses, Evasive, just simply admit that you cannot
provide any proof. Neither can anyone else so don't be ashamed.
The believer has no obligation whatsoever to the unbeliever.
Then why do you keep claiming your "god" exists if you aren't willing
to back it up with some real evidence, G-String?
God does exist,
Then you shouldn't have any trouble proving it, right G-String?
but He isn't just MY god, He is THE God.
It's a myth, THE myth.
I'm not
willing to "back it up with real evidence" for the same reason I won't
jump off a bridge just to prove a point.
You are not going to "back it up with real evidence" because you don't
have any, G-String. You don't have any because there isn't any.
I don't know you, don't owe
you anything, and couldn't care less whether you believe in God or
not. As I said before, your unbelief is not my problem.
It's not a "problem" at all, G-String.
Your lack
of knowledge and/or belief isn't the believer's problem.
No, your real problem is beliving in something that doesn't exist, G-
String. It's a mental health thing.
Like I said, I don't have a problem.
Yes, you do G-String. You are living a lie.
You are the one demanding for
proof because you cannot see what is plain.
I am not "demanding" anything from you, G-Sting. I am simply asking you to
provide some proof of this mythical "god" that you claim exists. But you
keep evading the issue while proclaiming more of your phony "god is real"
bs without backing it up with any real evidence.
In reality,
no amount of truth or proof would convince them anyway.
Because there isn't any, not even a smidgen, G-String.
Again, your thoughts, not mine. There is evidence but you can't see
it.
Where is this "evidence", G-String? I keep asking and you keep saying it's
there but you won't say where.
"The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the
godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their
wickedness, since what may be know about God is plain to them,
because God has made it plain to them.
Since you religious kooks are the epitomy of godlessness and
wickedness, you should know, G-String.
So, you think YOU are the final determination of "godlessness and
wickedness"? Another sign of that "darkened heart" that scripture
talks about.
You are that sign, G-String.
For since the creation of the world
God's invisible qualities-his eternal power and devine nature-have
been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that
men are without excuse.
You religious kooks seem to have plenty excuses for not being able to
prove your mythical "god" exists, G-String.
...And you unbeliever's have plenty of excuses for why you are unable
to see what is plain.
Again, if it is so "plain", why can't you show it to us, G-String?
For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor
gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their
foolish hearts were darkened." - Romans 1:18 - 21 NIV
How can you tell that your "heart is darkened" G-String"? Your brain
is obviously mush.
How can you tell? When something is written out in plain english and
yet you cannot or will not understand it.
I cannot understand your "evidence" because you have never provided it, G-
String.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: The RRR Cult vs. Christianity |
25 May 2006 11:29:14 AM |
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G-Net <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote:
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns97CD89D1938F9SD@70.169.32.36...
"G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote in
The believer has no obligation whatsoever to the unbeliever.
Then why do you keep claiming your "god" exists if you aren't willing to
back it up with some real evidence, G-String?
God does exist, but He isn't just MY god, He is THE God. I'm not willing to
"back it up with real evidence" for the same reason I won't jump off a
bridge just to prove a point.
But you will shove people off of a bridge to prove that your god exists.
I don't know you, don't owe you anything, and
couldn't care less whether you believe in God or not. As I said before, your
unbelief is not my problem.
Don't make your belief my problem.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Mark Sebree" |
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| Title: Re: The RRR Cult vs. Christianity |
24 May 2006 04:24:51 PM |
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G-Net wrote:
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns97CD89D1938F9SD@70.169.32.36...
"G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote in
news:8g3dg.57023$ge7.56103@trnddc01:
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
news:Xns97CD7EF3E323SD@70.169.32.36...
"Eraser" <eraser92156@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1148493097.621087.153420@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Attila wrote:
On Tue, 23 May 2006 13:12:05 GMT, "G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> in
alt.abortion with message-id <FSDcg.7259$ix2.2439@trnddc03> wrote:
"Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"
<snip for space>
P.S. -- By his TOP-posting of his ludicrous response, he
attempted the ploy so often used by those of his
ilk... AVOIDANCE of any apparent need to
respond to any of the points made in the post.
Just another way that RRR Cultists prove their
dishonesty and cowardice. The reality is that
there is NO WAY that he even *could* have made
an intelligent rebuttal to the points made in the
above post. And anyone who attempts it will
accomplish no more than to prove, once again,
how muddled and ignorant he truly is. NO FACTS
exist that *can* disprove any of the above-made
points.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
I would LOVE to know what gives YOU the authority, right, or
knowledge to determine who is and who is not a "Christian"? Only
God can "see" a man's heart. So are you saying that you are like
God?
Prove any god exists.
Why the ***** should they? In the context of the debate between
Chilton & G-Net, the presumption of an existent God seems to be a
given...to which both parties agree. Why should they give a *****
about your need for proof of something which is not even a point of
contention between them?
No need to make excuses, Evasive, just simply admit that you cannot
provide any proof. Neither can anyone else so don't be ashamed.
The believer has no obligation whatsoever to the unbeliever.
Then why do you keep claiming your "god" exists if you aren't willing to
back it up with some real evidence, G-String?
God does exist, but He isn't just MY god, He is THE God.
Actually, he is YOUR diety. There are millions of other dieties that
are just as valid.
I'm not willing to
"back it up with real evidence" for the same reason I won't jump off a
bridge just to prove a point.
Because it will kill or seriously harm you? No, that cannot be it
since backing up your claim will not harm you in any way.
I don't know you, don't owe you anything, and
couldn't care less whether you believe in God or not.
Which is still no reason to refuse to support your premise.
As I said before, your
unbelief is not my problem.
Then why are you stating that everyone has to accept your beliefs as
valid for them?
Your lack
of knowledge and/or belief isn't the believer's problem.
No, your real problem is beliving in something that doesn't exist, G-
String. It's a mental health thing.
Like I said, I don't have a problem. You are the one demanding for proof
because you cannot see what is plain.
If it was plain, then we could see it. We cannot see what only exists
in your imagination. We are demanding that you support your premise
and assertion that your diety exists. Basically, we are requesting
that you support your own assertions.
In reality,
no amount of truth or proof would convince them anyway.
Because there isn't any, not even a smidgen, G-String.
Again, your thoughts, not mine.
It is also an objective fact.
There is evidence but you can't see it.
Then present the evidence so that we can see it. Not your personal
opinions, but actual, objective evdience that presents the same answers
irregardless of the reviewer's personal beliefs.
"The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the
godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their
wickedness, since what may be know about God is plain to them, because
God has made it plain to them.
Since you religious kooks are the epitomy of godlessness and wickedness,
you should know, G-String.
So, you think YOU are the final determination of "godlessness and
wickedness"?
It is certain that you think that you are. That can be seen in your
posts to me, especially the ones where you think that you can define my
beliefs for me and to me.
Another sign of that "darkened heart" that scripture talks
about.
Nope. An enlightened heart and mind, something that you cannot
tolerate.
For since the creation of the world
God's invisible qualities-his eternal power and devine nature-have
been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that
men are without excuse.
You religious kooks seem to have plenty excuses for not being able to
prove your mythical "god" exists, G-String.
...And you unbeliever's have plenty of excuses for why you are unable to see
what is plain.
And the "faithful" have plenty of reasons for not presenting what does
not exist. If it was plain, you could present it to us for us to see,
and we could see it for ourselves. You would not be making up excuses
for not supporting your assertions.
We are not the ones that are giving excuses, you are. Are you saying
that you are the "unbeliever"?
For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave
thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish
hearts were darkened." - Romans 1:18 - 21 NIV
How can you tell that your "heart is darkened" G-String"? Your brain is
obviously mush.
How can you tell?
The way you act and by what you post.
When something is written out in plain english and yet you
cannot or will not understand it.
First, that bibical reference is a translation, or more likely, a
translation of a translation. Therefore, errors naturally occur.
Second, that is not any evidence that your diety exists because it is a
circular reference, as well as being a completely subjective reference.
Nothing in the Bible applies to anyone that does not subscribe to that
mythology. What's more, you have never presented any objective
evdience that your diety even exists, and there is no reason to
"glorify" or thank something that just exists in your imagination.
All I have seen you write are your opinions. You have never tried to
support your assertions and premises with anything objective, and yet
you expect us to take your opinions as facts.
So, where is your objective evidence that your diety exists?
Mark Sebree
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