Science > Abortion > The trend is clear. The more atheists, the fewer murders.
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27 Aug 2006 12:28:13 AM |
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The trend is clear. The more atheists, the fewer murders. |
God Kills.
Murder Rate % Atheist/
Country per 100,000* Agnostic**
Mexico 17.58 5
Taiwan 8.52 24
United States 5.70 7
Argentina 4.51 6
Hungary 3.53 46
Finland 3.24 51
Portugal 2.98 9
Israel 2.32 37
Italy 2.25 15
Canada 2.16 25
Australia 1.86 25
New Zealand 1.47 22
United Kingdom 1.41 38
Switzerland 1.32 27
Sweden 1.30 77
Germany 1.17 37
France 1.14 54
Greece 1.14 16
Netherlands 1.11 42
Norway 0.97 58
Spain 0.95 24
Japan 0.62 65
Murder Rate # countries ave. % A/A
4 4 11
2 - 4 6 31
1 - 2 9 38
< 1 3 49
* http://thegreenman.net.au/mt/archives/000055.html
** http://www.adherents.com/Na/Na_45.html
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satyr #1953
Chairman, EAC Church Taxation Subcommittee
Director, Gideon Bible Alternative Fuel Project
Supervisor, EAC Fossil Casting Lab
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| User: "Beacon of Truth and Light \maybe" |
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| Title: Re: The trend is clear. The more atheists, the fewer murders. |
28 Aug 2006 03:47:04 PM |
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"satyr" <RsEaMtOyVrE@infidels.org> wrote in message
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God Kills.
Murder Rate % Atheist/
Country per 100,000* Agnostic**
Mexico 17.58 5
Taiwan 8.52 24
United States 5.70 7
Argentina 4.51 6
Hungary 3.53 46
Finland 3.24 51
Portugal 2.98 9
Israel 2.32 37
Italy 2.25 15
Canada 2.16 25
Australia 1.86 25
New Zealand 1.47 22
United Kingdom 1.41 38
Switzerland 1.32 27
Sweden 1.30 77
Germany 1.17 37
France 1.14 54
Greece 1.14 16
Netherlands 1.11 42
Norway 0.97 58
Spain 0.95 24
Japan 0.62 65
Murder Rate # countries ave. % A/A
4 4 11
2 - 4 6 31
1 - 2 9 38
< 1 3 49
* http://thegreenman.net.au/mt/archives/000055.html
** http://www.adherents.com/Na/Na_45.html
So where is your statistical analysis? Do you have an r coefficient for the
correlation?
You haven't demonstrated statistical significance.
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| User: "satyr" |
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| Title: Re: The trend is clear. The more atheists, the fewer murders. |
28 Aug 2006 11:24:11 PM |
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On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 20:47:04 GMT, "Beacon of Truth and Light
\(maybe\)" <foo@foo.com> wrote:
"satyr" <RsEaMtOyVrE@infidels.org> wrote in message
news:rqa2f2d70v21qpafpe36dcn9m7j7fgge66@4ax.com...
God Kills.
Murder Rate % Atheist/
Country per 100,000* Agnostic**
Mexico 17.58 5
Taiwan 8.52 24
United States 5.70 7
Argentina 4.51 6
Hungary 3.53 46
Finland 3.24 51
Portugal 2.98 9
Israel 2.32 37
Italy 2.25 15
Canada 2.16 25
Australia 1.86 25
New Zealand 1.47 22
United Kingdom 1.41 38
Switzerland 1.32 27
Sweden 1.30 77
Germany 1.17 37
France 1.14 54
Greece 1.14 16
Netherlands 1.11 42
Norway 0.97 58
Spain 0.95 24
Japan 0.62 65
Murder Rate # countries ave. % A/A
4 4 11
2 - 4 6 31
1 - 2 9 38
< 1 3 49
* http://thegreenman.net.au/mt/archives/000055.html
** http://www.adherents.com/Na/Na_45.html
So where is your statistical analysis? Do you have an r coefficient for the
correlation?
You haven't demonstrated statistical significance.
I stated that it was a trend. There are plenty of smart people who
can do the statistics and tell us how well it correlates. My guess is
that it is pretty strong but obviously not perfect.
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satyr #1953
Chairman, EAC Church Taxation Subcommittee
Director, Gideon Bible Alternative Fuel Project
Supervisor, EAC Fossil Casting Lab
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29 Aug 2006 09:50:07 PM |
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To be fair to satyr, we've all been using speculation, personal
experience, whatever. This thread has drawn a lot on observation and
speculation. His post mainly just presents us with some studies to open
a debate. There's no such thing as "perfect" statistics, that's what
makes them statistics. It's not what we know, it's what we wish we knew
for certain so we're taking the next best option. Ask a professional
gambler how this works. I'm no professional statician (which feels
about as dumb as saying "I'm not a doctor"--d'uh) but there's something
to be said for this discussion and the points it touches on. Already
many things have been refuted and given weight. I like this thread, and
I think the initial presentation has much credibility. It just makes
sense from a logical standpoint. Saying Nazis or Klansmen or George W.
Bush are all idiots without first-rate statistics isn't exactly a moot
point.
satyr wrote:
On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 20:47:04 GMT, "Beacon of Truth and Light
\(maybe\)" <foo@foo.com> wrote:
"satyr" <RsEaMtOyVrE@infidels.org> wrote in message
news:rqa2f2d70v21qpafpe36dcn9m7j7fgge66@4ax.com...
God Kills.
Murder Rate % Atheist/
Country per 100,000* Agnostic**
Mexico 17.58 5
Taiwan 8.52 24
United States 5.70 7
Argentina 4.51 6
Hungary 3.53 46
Finland 3.24 51
Portugal 2.98 9
Israel 2.32 37
Italy 2.25 15
Canada 2.16 25
Australia 1.86 25
New Zealand 1.47 22
United Kingdom 1.41 38
Switzerland 1.32 27
Sweden 1.30 77
Germany 1.17 37
France 1.14 54
Greece 1.14 16
Netherlands 1.11 42
Norway 0.97 58
Spain 0.95 24
Japan 0.62 65
Murder Rate # countries ave. % A/A
4 4 11
2 - 4 6 31
1 - 2 9 38
< 1 3 49
* http://thegreenman.net.au/mt/archives/000055.html
** http://www.adherents.com/Na/Na_45.html
So where is your statistical analysis? Do you have an r coefficient for the
correlation?
You haven't demonstrated statistical significance.
I stated that it was a trend. There are plenty of smart people who
can do the statistics and tell us how well it correlates. My guess is
that it is pretty strong but obviously not perfect.
--
satyr #1953
Chairman, EAC Church Taxation Subcommittee
Director, Gideon Bible Alternative Fuel Project
Supervisor, EAC Fossil Casting Lab
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29 Aug 2006 11:07:12 PM |
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On 29 Aug 2006 19:50:07 -0700, "thedeviliam@hotmail.com"
<thedeviliam@hotmail.com> wrote:
To be fair to satyr, we've all been using speculation, personal
experience, whatever. This thread has drawn a lot on observation and
speculation. His post mainly just presents us with some studies to open
a debate. There's no such thing as "perfect" statistics, that's what
makes them statistics. It's not what we know, it's what we wish we knew
for certain so we're taking the next best option. Ask a professional
gambler how this works. I'm no professional statician (which feels
about as dumb as saying "I'm not a doctor"--d'uh) but there's something
to be said for this discussion and the points it touches on. Already
many things have been refuted and given weight. I like this thread, and
I think the initial presentation has much credibility. It just makes
sense from a logical standpoint. Saying Nazis or Klansmen or George W.
Bush are all idiots without first-rate statistics isn't exactly a moot
point.
Thank you for your kind comments, uh, Mr. Devil.
--
satyr #1953
Chairman, EAC Church Taxation Subcommittee
Director, Gideon Bible Alternative Fuel Project
Supervisor, EAC Fossil Casting Lab
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: The trend is clear. The more atheists, the fewer murders. |
30 Aug 2006 02:52:49 AM |
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On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 04:07:12 GMT, satyr <RsEaMtOyVrE@infidels.org>
wrote:
- Refer: <mn3af25od783j1eff6er590oltdm28no4p@4ax.com>
On 29 Aug 2006 19:50:07 -0700, "thedeviliam@hotmail.com"
<thedeviliam@hotmail.com> wrote:
To be fair to satyr, we've all been using speculation, personal
experience, whatever. This thread has drawn a lot on observation and
speculation. His post mainly just presents us with some studies to open
a debate. There's no such thing as "perfect" statistics, that's what
makes them statistics. It's not what we know, it's what we wish we knew
for certain so we're taking the next best option. Ask a professional
gambler how this works. I'm no professional statician (which feels
about as dumb as saying "I'm not a doctor"--d'uh) but there's something
to be said for this discussion and the points it touches on. Already
many things have been refuted and given weight. I like this thread, and
I think the initial presentation has much credibility. It just makes
sense from a logical standpoint. Saying Nazis or Klansmen or George W.
Bush are all idiots without first-rate statistics isn't exactly a moot
point.
Thank you for your kind comments, uh, Mr. Devil.
Sympathy from the Devil?
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| User: "satyr" |
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| Title: Re: The trend is clear. The more atheists, the fewer murders. |
30 Aug 2006 09:52:36 AM |
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On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:22:49 +0930, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 04:07:12 GMT, satyr <RsEaMtOyVrE@infidels.org>
wrote:
- Refer: <mn3af25od783j1eff6er590oltdm28no4p@4ax.com>
On 29 Aug 2006 19:50:07 -0700, "thedeviliam@hotmail.com"
<thedeviliam@hotmail.com> wrote:
To be fair to satyr, we've all been using speculation, personal
experience, whatever. This thread has drawn a lot on observation and
speculation. His post mainly just presents us with some studies to open
a debate. There's no such thing as "perfect" statistics, that's what
makes them statistics. It's not what we know, it's what we wish we knew
for certain so we're taking the next best option. Ask a professional
gambler how this works. I'm no professional statician (which feels
about as dumb as saying "I'm not a doctor"--d'uh) but there's something
to be said for this discussion and the points it touches on. Already
many things have been refuted and given weight. I like this thread, and
I think the initial presentation has much credibility. It just makes
sense from a logical standpoint. Saying Nazis or Klansmen or George W.
Bush are all idiots without first-rate statistics isn't exactly a moot
point.
Thank you for your kind comments, uh, Mr. Devil.
Sympathy from the Devil?
Nice.
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satyr #1953
Chairman, EAC Church Taxation Subcommittee
Director, Gideon Bible Alternative Fuel Project
Supervisor, EAC Fossil Casting Lab
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: The trend is clear. The more atheists, the fewer murders. |
28 Aug 2006 03:31:26 PM |
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"satyr" <RsEaMtOyVrE@infidels.org> wrote in message
news:rqa2f2d70v21qpafpe36dcn9m7j7fgge66@4ax.com...
God Kills.
Love stinks.
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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| User: "Son of Discord" |
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27 Aug 2006 01:57:03 AM |
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In alt.atheism satyr shared this wisdom:
God Kills.
Murder Rate % Atheist/
Country per 100,000* Agnostic**
Mexico 17.58 5
Taiwan 8.52 24
United States 5.70 7
Argentina 4.51 6
Hungary 3.53 46
Finland 3.24 51
Portugal 2.98 9
Israel 2.32 37
Italy 2.25 15
Canada 2.16 25
Australia 1.86 25
New Zealand 1.47 22
United Kingdom 1.41 38
Switzerland 1.32 27
Sweden 1.30 77
Germany 1.17 37
France 1.14 54
Greece 1.14 16
Netherlands 1.11 42
Norway 0.97 58
Spain 0.95 24
Japan 0.62 65
Murder Rate # countries ave. % A/A
4 4 11
2 - 4 6 31
1 - 2 9 38
< 1 3 49
* http://thegreenman.net.au/mt/archives/000055.html
** http://www.adherents.com/Na/Na_45.html
Right, I propose that they start putting little "government health
warnings" on buybulls -- just like they do with cigarettes. :)
Then perhaps start making them preach and perform that stupid little
'grace' ritual outside -- lest others get sick due to second-hand
bleating. Except in pubs. Then they just have to stand 1m back from
the bar. ;)
"Son of Discord"
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
" . . The bible is crap, people who believe it
are idiots, and blasphemy is a victimless
crime because the whole fetid pile of
christianic mythology is a ficticious crock of *****."
-Stix, undefeated former Warlord of the BAAWA
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
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| User: "Roedy Green" |
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| Title: Re: The trend is clear. The more atheists, the fewer murders. |
28 Aug 2006 04:15:15 AM |
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On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 05:28:13 GMT, satyr <RsEaMtOyVrE@infidels.org>
wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :
God Kills.
People who believe in an afterlife can be casual about murder. They
are not really killing, they are just prematurely promoting. Atheists
tend to not believe in an afterlife and hence value life more. If you
as an atheist kill someone, you take all he has, and further you take
away all hope his loved ones ever seeing him again. You don't do that
lightly.
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Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green, http://mindprod.com
See links to the Lebanon photos that Google censored at
http://mindprod.com/politics/israel.html
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| User: "Kurt Nicklas" |
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| Title: Re: The trend is clear. The more atheists, the fewer murders. |
28 Aug 2006 05:08:33 PM |
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Roedy Green wrote:
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 05:28:13 GMT, satyr <RsEaMtOyVrE@infidels.org>
wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :
God Kills.
People who believe in an afterlife can be casual about murder. They
are not really killing, they are just prematurely promoting. Atheists
tend to not believe in an afterlife and hence value life more.
Nonsense, atheists tend to devalue life because it is the same as
death...ultimately
mean and meaningless.
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| User: "Linda Lee" |
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| Title: Re: The trend is clear. The more atheists, the fewer murders. |
29 Aug 2006 12:03:12 AM |
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Kurt Nicklas wrote:
Roedy Green wrote:
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 05:28:13 GMT, satyr <RsEaMtOyVrE@infidels.org>
wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :
God Kills.
People who believe in an afterlife can be casual about murder. They
are not really killing, they are just prematurely promoting. Atheists
tend to not believe in an afterlife and hence value life more.
Nonsense, atheists tend to devalue life because it is the same as
death...ultimately
mean and meaningless.
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atheists tend to devalue life because it is the same as
death...ultimately
mean and meaningless.
Truly. All women I know who have aborted their own children have been
atheists or openly pagan.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: The trend is clear. The more atheists, the fewer murders. |
29 Aug 2006 12:01:48 PM |
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"Linda Lee" <linda@hipstargraphics.com> wrote in message
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Kurt Nicklas wrote:
Roedy Green wrote:
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 05:28:13 GMT, satyr <RsEaMtOyVrE@infidels.org>
wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :
God Kills.
People who believe in an afterlife can be casual about murder. They
are not really killing, they are just prematurely promoting. Atheists
tend to not believe in an afterlife and hence value life more.
Nonsense, atheists tend to devalue life because it is the same as
death...ultimately
mean and meaningless.
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atheists tend to devalue life because it is the same as
death...ultimately
mean and meaningless.
Truly. All women I know who have aborted their own children have been
atheists or openly pagan.
LOL! And all the women I know who have had abortions are Catholic with the
exception of two Baptists and one Jew.
Your point?
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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| User: "Kurt Nicklas" |
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29 Aug 2006 06:58:55 PM |
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Robibnikoff wrote:
"Linda Lee" <linda@hipstargraphics.com> wrote in message
news:1156827792.058168.293430@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Kurt Nicklas wrote:
Roedy Green wrote:
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 05:28:13 GMT, satyr <RsEaMtOyVrE@infidels.org>
wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :
God Kills.
People who believe in an afterlife can be casual about murder. They
are not really killing, they are just prematurely promoting. Atheists
tend to not believe in an afterlife and hence value life more.
Nonsense, atheists tend to devalue life because it is the same as
death...ultimately
mean and meaningless.
================================================================
atheists tend to devalue life because it is the same as
death...ultimately
mean and meaningless.
Truly. All women I know who have aborted their own children have been
atheists or openly pagan.
LOL! And all the women I know who have had abortions are Catholic with the
exception of two Baptists and one Jew.
I'll bet you're lying, Robyn.
Aren't you?
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| User: "" |
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31 Aug 2006 10:40:24 AM |
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A lot of fucking logic in this post. What do you want to bet? How will
you prove this?
Is there any chance you're just talking out of your dumb ***** again?
I know the answer to one of these questions. Guess which one it is.
I'll give you a hint: go to your hell.
Kurt Nicklas wrote:
=> > LOL! And all the women I know who have had abortions are Catholic
with the
exception of two Baptists and one Jew.
I'll bet you're lying, Robyn.
Aren't you?
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: The trend is clear. The more atheists, the fewer murders. |
31 Aug 2006 01:08:21 PM |
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<thedeviliam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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A lot of fucking logic in this post. What do you want to bet? How will
you prove this?
Is there any chance you're just talking out of your dumb ***** again?
I know the answer to one of these questions. Guess which one it is.
I'll give you a hint: go to your hell.
He's a moron. Atheists make up what, 14% of US's population, maybe? And
he's going to claim that ONLY atheists get abortions? Riiiiiiiight. What a
lying piece of scum he is :P
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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| User: "" |
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31 Aug 2006 11:08:22 PM |
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Robibnikoff wrote:
<thedeviliam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1157038824.836126.192480@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
A lot of fucking logic in this post. What do you want to bet? How will
you prove this?
Is there any chance you're just talking out of your dumb ***** again?
I know the answer to one of these questions. Guess which one it is.
I'll give you a hint: go to your hell.
He's a moron. Atheists make up what, 14% of US's population, maybe? And
he's going to claim that ONLY atheists get abortions? Riiiiiiiight. What a
lying piece of scum he is :P
Thank you, but I have to respectfully disagree with you on one point:
to be a liar, you must have some kind of relationship with reality in
the first place. I don't think this one has it. I understand the urge
to call it a liar, and maybe a few years ago I would have done the
same, but I just don't believe this thing has the capability to be one.
Thanks again though, my brother.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: The trend is clear. The more atheists, the fewer murders. |
01 Sep 2006 06:34:14 AM |
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On 31 Aug 2006 21:08:22 -0700, "thedeviliam@hotmail.com"
<thedeviliam@hotmail.com> wrote:
- Refer: <1157083702.728249.252350@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>
Robibnikoff wrote:
<thedeviliam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1157038824.836126.192480@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
A lot of fucking logic in this post. What do you want to bet? How will
you prove this?
Is there any chance you're just talking out of your dumb ***** again?
I know the answer to one of these questions. Guess which one it is.
I'll give you a hint: go to your hell.
He's a moron. Atheists make up what, 14% of US's population, maybe? And
he's going to claim that ONLY atheists get abortions? Riiiiiiiight. What a
lying piece of scum he is :P
Thank you, but I have to respectfully disagree with you on one point:
to be a liar, you must have some kind of relationship with reality in
the first place. I don't think this one has it. I understand the urge
to call it a liar, and maybe a few years ago I would have done the
same, but I just don't believe this thing has the capability to be one.
Thanks again though, my brother.
Sister.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: The trend is clear. The more atheists, the fewer murders. |
01 Sep 2006 12:16:50 PM |
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My bad, foot in my mouth. I don't get gender-specific on Usenet in case
you didn't notice.
Five stars for you. I love the star system here on deja: either you
vote five or one and if two users give a three star rating, it ain't
cuz they both voted three stars.
Michael Gray wrote:
On 31 Aug 2006 21:08:22 -0700, "thedeviliam@hotmail.com"
<thedeviliam@hotmail.com> wrote:
- Refer: <1157083702.728249.252350@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>
Robibnikoff wrote:
<thedeviliam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1157038824.836126.192480@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
A lot of fucking logic in this post. What do you want to bet? How will
you prove this?
Is there any chance you're just talking out of your dumb ***** again?
I know the answer to one of these questions. Guess which one it is.
I'll give you a hint: go to your hell.
He's a moron. Atheists make up what, 14% of US's population, maybe? And
he's going to claim that ONLY atheists get abortions? Riiiiiiiight. What a
lying piece of scum he is :P
Thank you, but I have to respectfully disagree with you on one point:
to be a liar, you must have some kind of relationship with reality in
the first place. I don't think this one has it. I understand the urge
to call it a liar, and maybe a few years ago I would have done the
same, but I just don't believe this thing has the capability to be one.
Thanks again though, my brother.
Sister.
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| User: "robpar" |
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| Title: Re: The trend is clear. The more atheists, the fewer murders. |
30 Aug 2006 01:44:41 PM |
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On 29 Aug 2006 16:58:55 -0700, "Kurt Nicklas"
<nicklask@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Robibnikoff wrote:
"Linda Lee" <linda@hipstargraphics.com> wrote in message
news:1156827792.058168.293430@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Kurt Nicklas wrote:
Roedy Green wrote:
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 05:28:13 GMT, satyr <RsEaMtOyVrE@infidels.org>
wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :
God Kills.
People who believe in an afterlife can be casual about murder. They
are not really killing, they are just prematurely promoting. Atheists
tend to not believe in an afterlife and hence value life more.
Nonsense, atheists tend to devalue life because it is the same as
death...ultimately
mean and meaningless.
================================================================
atheists tend to devalue life because it is the same as
death...ultimately
mean and meaningless.
Truly. All women I know who have aborted their own children have been
atheists or openly pagan.
LOL! And all the women I know who have had abortions are Catholic with the
exception of two Baptists and one Jew.
I'll bet you're lying, Robyn.
Aren't you?
My wife's friend is head of the local Planned Parenthood and
Public health Clinic. According to her few if any atheist
use their services. Baptist and Methodist are the local
majority and most common users of the abortion service.
Catholics are more likely to use the hospital for live
births. And STD treatment.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: The trend is clear. The more atheists, the fewer murders. |
30 Aug 2006 03:24:13 PM |
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"robpar" <robpar@netportusa.com> wrote in message
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On 29 Aug 2006 16:58:55 -0700, "Kurt Nicklas"
<nicklask@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Robibnikoff wrote:
"Linda Lee" <linda@hipstargraphics.com> wrote in message
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Kurt Nicklas wrote:
Roedy Green wrote:
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 05:28:13 GMT, satyr <RsEaMtOyVrE@infidels.org>
wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :
God Kills.
People who believe in an afterlife can be casual about murder. They
are not really killing, they are just prematurely promoting.
Atheists
tend to not believe in an afterlife and hence value life more.
Nonsense, atheists tend to devalue life because it is the same as
death...ultimately
mean and meaningless.
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atheists tend to devalue life because it is the same as
death...ultimately
mean and meaningless.
Truly. All women I know who have aborted their own children have been
atheists or openly pagan.
LOL! And all the women I know who have had abortions are Catholic with
the
exception of two Baptists and one Jew.
I'll bet you're lying, Robyn.
Aren't you?
My wife's friend is head of the local Planned Parenthood and
Public health Clinic. According to her few if any atheist
use their services. Baptist and Methodist are the local
majority and most common users of the abortion service.
Catholics are more likely to use the hospital for live
births. And STD treatment.
This jerk thinks I'm lying? Whatever. I'm only going by what my SILs have
told me - They're all Catholic and the majority of them have had abortions,
in some cases more than one. I personally took my one Baptist friend to an
abortion clinic in Englewood, NJ and took her home afterwards. And why
would the Jewish girl I know lie about such a thing?
Anybody who think that theists don't have abortions is a total moron - They
have them every damn day.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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30 Aug 2006 08:15:23 PM |
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On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 16:24:13 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"robpar" <robpar@netportusa.com> wrote in message
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On 29 Aug 2006 16:58:55 -0700, "Kurt Nicklas"
<nicklask@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Robibnikoff wrote:
"Linda Lee" <linda@hipstargraphics.com> wrote in message
news:1156827792.058168.293430@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Kurt Nicklas wrote:
Roedy Green wrote:
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 05:28:13 GMT, satyr <RsEaMtOyVrE@infidels.org>
wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :
God Kills.
People who believe in an afterlife can be casual about murder. They
are not really killing, they are just prematurely promoting.
Atheists
tend to not believe in an afterlife and hence value life more.
Nonsense, atheists tend to devalue life because it is the same as
death...ultimately
mean and meaningless.
================================================================
atheists tend to devalue life because it is the same as
death...ultimately
mean and meaningless.
Truly. All women I know who have aborted their own children have been
atheists or openly pagan.
LOL! And all the women I know who have had abortions are Catholic with
the
exception of two Baptists and one Jew.
I'll bet you're lying, Robyn.
Aren't you?
My wife's friend is head of the local Planned Parenthood and
Public health Clinic. According to her few if any atheist
use their services. Baptist and Methodist are the local
majority and most common users of the abortion service.
Catholics are more likely to use the hospital for live
births. And STD treatment.
This jerk thinks I'm lying? Whatever. I'm only going by what my SILs have
told me - They're all Catholic and the majority of them have had abortions,
in some cases more than one. I personally took my one Baptist friend to an
abortion clinic in Englewood, NJ and took her home afterwards. And why
would the Jewish girl I know lie about such a thing?
Anybody who think that theists don't have abortions is a total moron - They
have them every damn day.
Theist especially the Christian variety hate the truth,love
lies. Anything that reflects badly on them is a lie,
anything that agrees with them is true.
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31 Aug 2006 01:03:45 PM |
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"robpar" <robpar@netportusa.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 16:24:13 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"robpar" <robpar@netportusa.com> wrote in message
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On 29 Aug 2006 16:58:55 -0700, "Kurt Nicklas"
<nicklask@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Robibnikoff wrote:
"Linda Lee" <linda@hipstargraphics.com> wrote in message
news:1156827792.058168.293430@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Kurt Nicklas wrote:
Roedy Green wrote:
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 05:28:13 GMT, satyr
<RsEaMtOyVrE@infidels.org>
wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :
God Kills.
People who believe in an afterlife can be casual about murder.
They
are not really killing, they are just prematurely promoting.
Atheists
tend to not believe in an afterlife and hence value life more.
Nonsense, atheists tend to devalue life because it is the same as
death...ultimately
mean and meaningless.
================================================================
atheists tend to devalue life because it is the same as
death...ultimately
mean and meaningless.
Truly. All women I know who have aborted their own children have
been
atheists or openly pagan.
LOL! And all the women I know who have had abortions are Catholic
with
the
exception of two Baptists and one Jew.
I'll bet you're lying, Robyn.
Aren't you?
My wife's friend is head of the local Planned Parenthood and
Public health Clinic. According to her few if any atheist
use their services. Baptist and Methodist are the local
majority and most common users of the abortion service.
Catholics are more likely to use the hospital for live
births. And STD treatment.
This jerk thinks I'm lying? Whatever. I'm only going by what my SILs have
told me - They're all Catholic and the majority of them have had
abortions,
in some cases more than one. I personally took my one Baptist friend to
an
abortion clinic in Englewood, NJ and took her home afterwards. And why
would the Jewish girl I know lie about such a thing?
Anybody who think that theists don't have abortions is a total moron -
They
have them every damn day.
Theist especially the Christian variety hate the truth,love
lies. Anything that reflects badly on them is a lie,
anything that agrees with them is true.
What a crock o'hooey! :P
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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31 Aug 2006 06:15:54 PM |
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On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 14:03:45 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in alt.atheism
"robpar" <robpar@netportusa.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 16:24:13 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"robpar" <robpar@netportusa.com> wrote in message
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On 29 Aug 2006 16:58:55 -0700, "Kurt Nicklas"
<nicklask@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Robibnikoff wrote:
"Linda Lee" <linda@hipstargraphics.com> wrote in message
news:1156827792.058168.293430@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Kurt Nicklas wrote:
Roedy Green wrote:
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 05:28:13 GMT, satyr
<RsEaMtOyVrE@infidels.org>
wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :
God Kills.
People who believe in an afterlife can be casual about murder.
They
are not really killing, they are just prematurely promoting.
Atheists
tend to not believe in an afterlife and hence value life more.
Nonsense, atheists tend to devalue life because it is the same as
death...ultimately
mean and meaningless.
================================================================
atheists tend to devalue life because it is the same as
death...ultimately
mean and meaningless.
Truly. All women I know who have aborted their own children have
been
atheists or openly pagan.
LOL! And all the women I know who have had abortions are Catholic
with
the
exception of two Baptists and one Jew.
I'll bet you're lying, Robyn.
Aren't you?
My wife's friend is head of the local Planned Parenthood and
Public health Clinic. According to her few if any atheist
use their services. Baptist and Methodist are the local
majority and most common users of the abortion service.
Catholics are more likely to use the hospital for live
births. And STD treatment.
This jerk thinks I'm lying? Whatever. I'm only going by what my SILs have
told me - They're all Catholic and the majority of them have had
abortions,
in some cases more than one. I personally took my one Baptist friend to
an
abortion clinic in Englewood, NJ and took her home afterwards. And why
would the Jewish girl I know lie about such a thing?
Anybody who think that theists don't have abortions is a total moron -
They
have them every damn day.
Theist especially the Christian variety hate the truth,love
lies. Anything that reflects badly on them is a lie,
anything that agrees with them is true.
What a crock o'hooey! :P
Thing also is those without theism are all too few to keep the abortion
clinics open if they were even so minded. Republican National
Convention had local whores bringing in reinforcements from Europe to
provide their services to the Christian Congress Critters. Ballot box
stuffing and voter disenfrancisation also goes to the 'Jesus Freaks'
{Amerikkan Taliban} Rethugnicans.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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30 Aug 2006 12:10:19 AM |
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Linda Lee <linda@hipstargraphics.com> wrote:
Truly. All women I know who have aborted their own children have been
atheists or openly pagan.
Do women with religious affiliations have abortions?
Nearly eight in 10 U.S. women obtaining an abortion report a religious
affiliation (43% Protestant, 27% Catholic and 8% other). Among all
women aged 15-44, 51% are Protestant, 28% are Catholic and 5% belong
to other religions. [39]
http://www.guttmacher.org/in-the-know/index.html
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "robpar" |
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29 Aug 2006 01:28:59 PM |
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On 28 Aug 2006 22:03:12 -0700, "Linda Lee"
<linda@hipstargraphics.com> wrote:
Kurt Nicklas wrote:
Roedy Green wrote:
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 05:28:13 GMT, satyr <RsEaMtOyVrE@infidels.org>
wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :
God Kills.
People who believe in an afterlife can be casual about murder. They
are not really killing, they are just prematurely promoting. Atheists
tend to not believe in an afterlife and hence value life more.
Nonsense, atheists tend to devalue life because it is the same as
death...ultimately
mean and meaningless.
================================================================
atheists tend to devalue life because it is the same as
death...ultimately
mean and meaningless.
Truly. All women I know who have aborted their own children have been
atheists or openly pagan.
Odd all the atheist or pagan women I know, have never had
a unwanted pregnancy. They are smart enough to know how to
avoid getting knocked up. My wife's college roommate heads
the local Family Planning Clinic. According to her, most of
the girls seeking an abortion are from strong Christian
homes. Most girls raised in a atheist family, have enough
self respect to avoid having sex with a young man unless
they plan on marrying him. IOW they abstain. Odd atheist
walk the walk, theist talk the talk. My daughter who was
atheist before I admitted to being atheist, was married 20
months before giving me a grand daughter. That grand
daughter has been married 3 years now and I still am not a
great grand pa.
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| User: "satyr" |
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29 Aug 2006 01:09:37 PM |
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On 28 Aug 2006 22:03:12 -0700, "Linda Lee" <linda@hipstargraphics.com>
wrote:
Kurt Nicklas wrote:
Roedy Green wrote:
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 05:28:13 GMT, satyr <RsEaMtOyVrE@infidels.org>
wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :
God Kills.
People who believe in an afterlife can be casual about murder. They
are not really killing, they are just prematurely promoting. Atheists
tend to not believe in an afterlife and hence value life more.
Nonsense, atheists tend to devalue life because it is the same as
death...ultimately
mean and meaningless.
================================================================
atheists tend to devalue life because it is the same as
death...ultimately
mean and meaningless.
Truly. All women I know who have aborted their own children have been
atheists or openly pagan.
Puleeze. Common sense tells you that the millions of abortions in
this country are not being performed on the 7% of Americans who are
atheists. It has been my experience that atheists are more likely to
share this information so that could be the source of your confusion.
--
satyr #1953
Chairman, EAC Church Taxation Subcommittee
Director, Gideon Bible Alternative Fuel Project
Supervisor, EAC Fossil Casting Lab
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29 Aug 2006 12:20:58 PM |
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Kurt Nicklas wrote:
Roedy Green wrote:
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 05:28:13 GMT, satyr <RsEaMtOyVrE@infidels.org>
wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :
God Kills.
People who believe in an afterlife can be casual about murder. They
are not really killing, they are just prematurely promoting. Atheists
tend to not believe in an afterlife and hence value life more.
Nonsense, atheists tend to devalue life because it is the same as
death...ultimately
mean and meaningless.
Idiotic. Mean? It's a lot meaner to think some ***** is causing us
pain on purpose. Meaningless? You've put no thought into the meaning of
meaning. What atheists are looking for in life sure seems a lot like
what Christians want in the afterlife. Same meaning, except it's in
life. Not death. Christianity is death-worship, whereas non-theistic
beliefs tend to accept death as a part of life.
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29 Aug 2006 07:02:10 PM |
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wrote:
Kurt Nicklas wrote:
Roedy Green wrote:
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 05:28:13 GMT, satyr <RsEaMtOyVrE@infidels.org>
wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :
God Kills.
People who believe in an afterlife can be casual about murder. They
are not really killing, they are just prematurely promoting. Atheists
tend to not believe in an afterlife and hence value life more.
Nonsense, atheists tend to devalue life because it is the same as
death...ultimately
mean and meaningless.
Idiotic. Mean? It's a lot meaner to think some ***** is causing us
pain on purpose.
It's a lot meaner to think the pain you feel is ultimately - like
EVERYTHING else - to no purpose at all.
Meaningless? You've put no thought into the meaning of
meaning. What atheists are looking for in life sure seems a lot like
what Christians want in the afterlife. Same meaning, except it's in
life.
The only meaning is a futile attempt to escape thinking about death.
Not death. Christianity is death-worship, whereas non-theistic
beliefs tend to accept death as a part of life.
Atheism is a hole, a vacuum, a nothingness, an emptyness, a lack.
Grow up, Atheist.
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29 Aug 2006 08:06:04 PM |
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In alt.atheism On 29 Aug 2006 17:02:10 -0700, "Kurt Nicklas"
<nicklask@bellsouth.net> let us all know that:
thedeviliam@hotmail.com wrote:
Kurt Nicklas wrote:
Roedy Green wrote:
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 05:28:13 GMT, satyr <RsEaMtOyVrE@infidels.org>
wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :
God Kills.
People who believe in an afterlife can be casual about murder. They
are not really killing, they are just prematurely promoting. Atheists
tend to not believe in an afterlife and hence value life more.
Nonsense, atheists tend to devalue life because it is the same as
death...ultimately
mean and meaningless.
Idiotic. Mean? It's a lot meaner to think some ***** is causing us
pain on purpose.
It's a lot meaner to think the pain you feel is ultimately - like
EVERYTHING else - to no purpose at all.
Only if you're a lying ***** named Kurt Nicklas.
Don
---
aa #51, Knight of BAAWA, DNRC o-, Member of the [H]orde
Atheist Minister for St. Dogbert.
"No being is so important that he can usurp the rights of another"
Picard to Data/Graves "The Schizoid Man"
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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29 Aug 2006 07:14:52 PM |
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In article <1156896129.969165.98930@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> "Kurt Nicklas" <nicklask@bellsouth.net> writes:
thedeviliam@hotmail.com wrote:
Kurt Nicklas wrote:
Roedy Green wrote:
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 05:28:13 GMT, satyr <RsEaMtOyVrE@infidels.org>
wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :
God Kills.
People who believe in an afterlife can be casual about murder. They
are not really killing, they are just prematurely promoting. Atheists
tend to not believe in an afterlife and hence value life more.
Nonsense, atheists tend to devalue life because it is the same as
death...ultimately
mean and meaningless.
Idiotic. Mean? It's a lot meaner to think some ***** is causing us
pain on purpose.
It's a lot meaner to think the pain you feel is ultimately - like
EVERYTHING else - to no purpose at all.
It clearly has a "purpose" -- it helps keep you alive. Which
means you get to pass one your genes.
Evolution, however, doesn't care about the fact that if you're
dying a protracted and pain-racked death from which there is no possible
escape, then pain serves no further function.
And, apparently, neither does any Creator.
-- cary
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