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Topic: Science > Abortion
User: "David W. Barnes"
Date: 30 Oct 2004 07:53:46 PM
Object: The War Bush Doesn't Want Seen
Here is a good site which tells what is going on in Iraq from those who
actually went to Iraq, the soldiers, as opposed to those who like to
take credit and live viciously while home safe. It is enlightening.
<http://www.optruth.org/main.cfm?actionId=globalShowStaticContent&screen
Key=draft&lnav=1>
Here is an excerpt:
David:
"[David] found that in the Iraq War, there were separate rules for the
reservists and the soldiers on active duty. Before long the 32-year old
and his fellow guardsmen were writing home, asking for essential
equipment that the Pentagon simply refused to provide for reservists.
David's parents had to send him batteries, and even radio equipment
from Wal-Mart to make up for supplies that was missing or broken and
not replaced. Night vision equipment amongst the reservists was in such
short supply that soldiers had to take turns using it. Worst of all,
guardsmen like David were expected to perform the same dangerous
missions as regular soldiers, but without any body armor."
Sgt Jefferies:
"I watched America provide doors, floors, windows, plumbing, sewage
disposal, and air conditioning for Iraqi troops while American soldiers
on the same compound struggled with none of these things. Despite
promises to make conditions equal for US and Iraqi troops, the
construction never approached parity."
This is the war George W. Bush hopes no one will discover.
.

User: "Gactimus"

Title: Re: The War Bush Doesn't Want Seen 31 Oct 2004 08:55:03 AM
"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in
news:301020041753469389%spam@aol.com:

Here is a good site which tells what is going on in Iraq from those who
actually went to Iraq, the soldiers, as opposed to those who like to
take credit and live viciously while home safe. It is enlightening.

<http://www.optruth.org/main.cfm?actionId=globalShowStaticContent&screen
Key=draft&lnav=1>

Here is an excerpt:

David:

"[David] found that in the Iraq War, there were separate rules for the
reservists and the soldiers on active duty. Before long the 32-year old
and his fellow guardsmen were writing home, asking for essential
equipment that the Pentagon simply refused to provide for reservists.
David's parents had to send him batteries, and even radio equipment
from Wal-Mart to make up for supplies that was missing or broken and
not replaced. Night vision equipment amongst the reservists was in such
short supply that soldiers had to take turns using it. Worst of all,
guardsmen like David were expected to perform the same dangerous
missions as regular soldiers, but without any body armor."

Sgt Jefferies:

"I watched America provide doors, floors, windows, plumbing, sewage
disposal, and air conditioning for Iraqi troops while American soldiers
on the same compound struggled with none of these things. Despite
promises to make conditions equal for US and Iraqi troops, the
construction never approached parity."

This kind of stuff wouldn't happen if people like John Kerry, who claim to
support the troops, vote against funding the war effort.
.
User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: The War Bush Doesn't Want Seen 31 Oct 2004 11:17:02 AM
In article <b17hd.92695$tU4.78693@okepread06>, Gactimus
<gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in
news:301020041753469389%spam@aol.com:

Here is a good site which tells what is going on in Iraq from those who
actually went to Iraq, the soldiers, as opposed to those who like to
take credit and live viciously while home safe. It is enlightening.

<http://www.optruth.org/main.cfm?actionId=globalShowStaticContent&screen
Key=draft&lnav=1>

Here is an excerpt:

David:

"[David] found that in the Iraq War, there were separate rules for the
reservists and the soldiers on active duty. Before long the 32-year old
and his fellow guardsmen were writing home, asking for essential
equipment that the Pentagon simply refused to provide for reservists.
David's parents had to send him batteries, and even radio equipment
from Wal-Mart to make up for supplies that was missing or broken and
not replaced. Night vision equipment amongst the reservists was in such
short supply that soldiers had to take turns using it. Worst of all,
guardsmen like David were expected to perform the same dangerous
missions as regular soldiers, but without any body armor."

Sgt Jefferies:

"I watched America provide doors, floors, windows, plumbing, sewage
disposal, and air conditioning for Iraqi troops while American soldiers
on the same compound struggled with none of these things. Despite
promises to make conditions equal for US and Iraqi troops, the
construction never approached parity."


This kind of stuff wouldn't happen if people like John Kerry, who claim to
support the troops, vote against funding the war effort.

Three problems - One, he didn't do that, and two, it is the Presidents
job to ensure the troops are equipped. He can't just say, we don't
have enough money to buy you body armor, but go anyway. And THREE,
most importantly, there was enough money. Bush used it for the
Iraqi's. Read the article for once. Bush decided doors, floors,
windows, plumbing, sewage disposal, and air conditioning for Iraqi
troops was more important than body armor for American troops.
.
User: "Gactimus"

Title: Re: The War Bush Doesn't Want Seen 31 Oct 2004 11:40:35 AM
"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in
news:311020040917029126%spam@aol.com:

In article <b17hd.92695$tU4.78693@okepread06>, Gactimus
<gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in
news:301020041753469389%spam@aol.com:

Here is a good site which tells what is going on in Iraq from those
who actually went to Iraq, the soldiers, as opposed to those who like
to take credit and live viciously while home safe. It is
enlightening.

<http://www.optruth.org/main.cfm?actionId=globalShowStaticContent&scre
en Key=draft&lnav=1>

Here is an excerpt:

David:

"[David] found that in the Iraq War, there were separate rules for
the reservists and the soldiers on active duty. Before long the
32-year old and his fellow guardsmen were writing home, asking for
essential equipment that the Pentagon simply refused to provide for
reservists. David's parents had to send him batteries, and even radio
equipment from Wal-Mart to make up for supplies that was missing or
broken and not replaced. Night vision equipment amongst the
reservists was in such short supply that soldiers had to take turns
using it. Worst of all, guardsmen like David were expected to perform
the same dangerous missions as regular soldiers, but without any body
armor."

Sgt Jefferies:

"I watched America provide doors, floors, windows, plumbing, sewage
disposal, and air conditioning for Iraqi troops while American
soldiers on the same compound struggled with none of these things.
Despite promises to make conditions equal for US and Iraqi troops,
the construction never approached parity."


This kind of stuff wouldn't happen if people like John Kerry, who claim
to support the troops, vote against funding the war effort.


Three problems - One, he didn't do that,

Wrong as usual.

and two, it is the Presidents job to ensure the troops are equipped. He
can't just say, we don't have enough money to buy you body armor, but go
anyway. And THREE, most importantly, there was enough money. Bush used
it for the Iraqi's. Read the article for once. Bush decided doors,
floors, windows, plumbing, sewage disposal, and air conditioning for
Iraqi troops was more important than body armor for American troops.

Kerry decided that no money at all should be spent in Iraq or the troops
there.
.
User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: The War Bush Doesn't Want Seen 31 Oct 2004 12:09:45 PM
In article <1099244435.VWtwq0B31yG5CU9OQbSfrw@bubbanews>, Gactimus
<gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in
news:311020040917029126%spam@aol.com:

In article <b17hd.92695$tU4.78693@okepread06>, Gactimus
<gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:

"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in
news:301020041753469389%spam@aol.com:

Here is a good site which tells what is going on in Iraq from those
who actually went to Iraq, the soldiers, as opposed to those who like
to take credit and live viciously while home safe. It is
enlightening.

<http://www.optruth.org/main.cfm?actionId=globalShowStaticContent&scre
en Key=draft&lnav=1>

Here is an excerpt:

David:

"[David] found that in the Iraq War, there were separate rules for
the reservists and the soldiers on active duty. Before long the
32-year old and his fellow guardsmen were writing home, asking for
essential equipment that the Pentagon simply refused to provide for
reservists. David's parents had to send him batteries, and even radio
equipment from Wal-Mart to make up for supplies that was missing or
broken and not replaced. Night vision equipment amongst the
reservists was in such short supply that soldiers had to take turns
using it. Worst of all, guardsmen like David were expected to perform
the same dangerous missions as regular soldiers, but without any body
armor."

Sgt Jefferies:

"I watched America provide doors, floors, windows, plumbing, sewage
disposal, and air conditioning for Iraqi troops while American
soldiers on the same compound struggled with none of these things.
Despite promises to make conditions equal for US and Iraqi troops,
the construction never approached parity."


This kind of stuff wouldn't happen if people like John Kerry, who claim
to support the troops, vote against funding the war effort.


Three problems - One, he didn't do that,


Wrong as usual.

See? You simply deny the obvious. Offer some proof.


and two, it is the Presidents job to ensure the troops are equipped. He
can't just say, we don't have enough money to buy you body armor, but go
anyway. And THREE, most importantly, there was enough money. Bush used
it for the Iraqi's. Read the article for once. Bush decided doors,
floors, windows, plumbing, sewage disposal, and air conditioning for
Iraqi troops was more important than body armor for American troops.


Kerry decided that no money at all should be spent in Iraq or the troops
there.

ROFLMAO!!!!!!! Go away.
.




User: "Andrealphus"

Title: Re: The War Bush Doesn't Want Seen 30 Oct 2004 07:57:11 PM
David W. Barnes <spam@aol.com> wrote:

Here is a good site which tells what is going on in Iraq from those
who actually went to Iraq, the soldiers, as opposed to those who like
to take credit and live viciously while home safe. It is
enlightening.

Vicariously is the word you wanted I think. :c)
--
Brigham Young on interracial marriage:
"Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the
white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed
of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot. This
will always be so."
.
User: "Viper"

Title: Re: The War Bush Doesn't Want Seen 30 Oct 2004 10:27:03 PM
"Andrealphus" <OHNOLETSGO@NARNIA.WHOCARES> wrote in message
news:HLWgd.13399$KJ6.4083@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...

Brigham Young on interracial marriage:


"Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the
white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed
of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot. This
will always be so."


Was this the same guy that thought it was ok to marry his sister?
.
User: "Andrealphus"

Title: Re: The War Bush Doesn't Want Seen 30 Oct 2004 10:30:15 PM
Viper <dont_thinkso@never.net> wrote:

"Andrealphus" <OHNOLETSGO@NARNIA.WHOCARES> wrote in message
news:HLWgd.13399$KJ6.4083@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...

Brigham Young on interracial marriage:


"Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If
the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with
the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the
spot. This will always be so."


Was this the same guy that thought it was ok to marry his sister?

Not sure, quite possibly. Guy was a nut case for sure.
--
Brigham Young on interracial marriage:
"Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the
white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed
of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot. This
will always be so."
.


User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: The War Bush Doesn't Want Seen 30 Oct 2004 09:07:37 PM
In article <HLWgd.13399$KJ6.4083@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
Andrealphus <OHNOLETSGO@NARNIA.WHOCARES> wrote:

David W. Barnes <spam@aol.com> wrote:

Here is a good site which tells what is going on in Iraq from those
who actually went to Iraq, the soldiers, as opposed to those who like
to take credit and live viciously while home safe. It is
enlightening.


Vicariously is the word you wanted I think. :c)

Right you are - thanks.
.


User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: The War Bush Doesn't Want Seen 31 Oct 2004 05:18:54 PM
David W. Barnes <spam@aol.com> wrote:

Here is a good site which tells what is going on in Iraq from those who
actually went to Iraq, the soldiers, as opposed to those who like to
take credit and live viciously while home safe. It is enlightening.

<http://www.optruth.org/main.cfm?actionId=globalShowStaticContent&screen
Key=draft&lnav=1>

Q: What's the difference between Vietnam and Iraq?
A: Bush had a plan to get out of Vietnam.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.

User: "Frank Dwyer"

Title: Re: The War Bush Doesn't Want Seen 30 Oct 2004 08:58:29 PM
David W. Barnes wrote:

Here is a good site which tells what is going on in Iraq from those who
actually went to Iraq, the soldiers, as opposed to those who like to
take credit and live viciously while home safe. It is enlightening.

<http://www.optruth.org/main.cfm?actionId=globalShowStaticContent&screen
Key=draft&lnav=1>

Here is an excerpt:

David:

"[David] found that in the Iraq War, there were separate rules for the
reservists and the soldiers on active duty. Before long the 32-year old
and his fellow guardsmen were writing home, asking for essential
equipment that the Pentagon simply refused to provide for reservists.
David's parents had to send him batteries, and even radio equipment
from Wal-Mart to make up for supplies that was missing or broken and
not replaced. Night vision equipment amongst the reservists was in such
short supply that soldiers had to take turns using it. Worst of all,
guardsmen like David were expected to perform the same dangerous
missions as regular soldiers, but without any body armor."

An honest question: Would this scenario exist if the 87 billion had been
approved? Were supplies such as these included? I have no clue what
exactly was in the bill, and don't have much interest in reading a bill
that didn't pass, thus my asking.

Sgt Jefferies:

"I watched America provide doors, floors, windows, plumbing, sewage
disposal, and air conditioning for Iraqi troops while American soldiers
on the same compound struggled with none of these things. Despite
promises to make conditions equal for US and Iraqi troops, the
construction never approached parity."

Look at it this way: The Iraqi soldiers will be there a lot longer than
any of us.

This is the war George W. Bush hopes no one will discover.

Too late. ;-)
.
User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: The War Bush Doesn't Want Seen 30 Oct 2004 09:07:41 PM
In article <9FXgd.1480$F_2.1371@news01.roc.ny>, Frank Dwyer
<fdwyer@XcitlinkX.net> wrote:

David W. Barnes wrote:

Here is a good site which tells what is going on in Iraq from those who
actually went to Iraq, the soldiers, as opposed to those who like to
take credit and live viciously while home safe. It is enlightening.

<http://www.optruth.org/main.cfm?actionId=globalShowStaticContent&screen
Key=draft&lnav=1>

Here is an excerpt:

David:

"[David] found that in the Iraq War, there were separate rules for the
reservists and the soldiers on active duty. Before long the 32-year old
and his fellow guardsmen were writing home, asking for essential
equipment that the Pentagon simply refused to provide for reservists.
David's parents had to send him batteries, and even radio equipment
from Wal-Mart to make up for supplies that was missing or broken and
not replaced. Night vision equipment amongst the reservists was in such
short supply that soldiers had to take turns using it. Worst of all,
guardsmen like David were expected to perform the same dangerous
missions as regular soldiers, but without any body armor."


An honest question: Would this scenario exist if the 87 billion had been
approved? Were supplies such as these included? I have no clue what
exactly was in the bill, and don't have much interest in reading a bill
that didn't pass, thus my asking.

If you read what Kerry did you would see why he got tangled up in that
tongue twisting "I voted for it then against it" thing. While he voted
against a specific form of this bill, he was not opposed to sending 87
billion to Iraq. He was simply opposed to the specific funding issues
of this bill.
It doesn't mean he didn't support the troops.
Bush also threatened to veto this very bill, if 10 billion was in the
form of a loan. Would that have meant he didn't support the troops?


Sgt Jefferies:

"I watched America provide doors, floors, windows, plumbing, sewage
disposal, and air conditioning for Iraqi troops while American soldiers
on the same compound struggled with none of these things. Despite
promises to make conditions equal for US and Iraqi troops, the
construction never approached parity."


Look at it this way: The Iraqi soldiers will be there a lot longer than
any of us.

This is the war George W. Bush hopes no one will discover.


Too late. ;-)

.



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