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"The other Donald" |
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31 Oct 2004 02:18:57 PM |
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This just gets better and better |
377 tons a fraction of missing Iraq explosives
Absent prewar stockpiles may total 250,000 tons
"VIENNA, Austria - From the deserts of the south and west to the outskirts
of Baghdad, Iraq is awash in weapons sites - some large, others small; some
guarded, others not. Even after the U.S. military secured some 400,000 tons
of munitions, as many as 250,000 tons remain unaccounted for."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6376212/
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01 Nov 2004 01:51:17 PM |
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George Kerby wrote:
MORE CUT & PASTE!!!!!
Come up with an ORIGINAL thought, fukin Kerry zombie...
BUSH ARMED THE TERRORISTS IN IRAQ!
Read it and weep!
250,000 TONS OF MISSING EXPLOSIVES AND WEAPONS!
We did not have a terrorist problem from Iraq
before Bush. We do NOW and Bush armed them!
And you LOVE IT!
All you can do in response is blubber at me.
Fucking Bush *****-sucker!
Teh ***** created an immense terrorist problem
we wil fight for a DECADE!
And right now, Osana Bin Laden's al Qaeda
terrorists have flooded to Iraq to get weapons and
train new recruits and kill Americans!
And you dumbass right wingers are too stupid to
notice, much less care!
Warm temperature IQs and no rationality in any of you.
Osama sits there and laughs at how Bush has screwed
himeslf and created a new army of future terrorists.
And YOU LOVE it!
Hits us again, Osama!
Now that you have 380 tons of RDX and HMX.
Yes, Bush allowed Osama to escape.
And created a new generation on intrnational terrorists.
WHAT A GREAT PLAN!
Lets see what a great leader AWOL is.
*************
Courtesy of Jerry Kuhaida / The Oregonian via AP
377 tons small part of absent Iraq explosives
Missing prewar stockpiles may total 250,000 tons
Mortar rounds and other munitions litter the ground
at the Ukhaider Ammunition and Missile Storage area
near Karbala, Iraq, in an Oct. 10 photo taken by
civilian aid worker Jerry Kudaiha.
The Associated Press
Updated: 2:56 p.m. ET Oct. 31, 2004
VIENNA, Austria - From the deserts of the south and west
to the outskirts of Baghdad, Iraq is awash in weapons
sites some large, others small; some guarded, others
not. Even after the U.S. military secured some 400,000
tons of munitions, as many as 250,000 tons remain
unaccounted for.
Attention has focused on the al-Qaqaa site south
of Baghdad, where 377 tons of explosives are
believed to have gone missing becoming a heated
issue in the final days of the U.S. presidential
campaign.
But with the names of other sites popping up
everywhere al-Mahaweel, Baqouba, Ukhaider,
Qaim, experts say the al-Qaqaa stash is only
a tiny fraction of what's buried in the sands
of Iraq.
There is something truly absurd about focusing
on 377 tons, said Anthony Cordesman, a defense
analyst and Iraq expert with the Washington-based
Center for Strategic and International Studies.
He contends Iraq's prewar stockpiles were
probably in excess of 650,000 tons.
Underscoring the depth of Iraq's militarization
before the March 2003 invasion, the Pentagon says
U.S.-led forces have destroyed 240,000 tons of
munitions and have secured another 160,000 tons
that is awaiting destruction.
A nation awash in weapons
Through mid-September, coalition forces inspected
and cleared more than 10,000 caches of weapons,
U.S. arms hunter Charles Duelfer said in a recent
report. But up to 250,000 tons remain unaccounted
for, according to military estimates, much of it
in small stashes scattered around the country.
I caution that there is a lot that we probably don't
know about, because this was a country, as the
inspectors acknowledged, that was awash in weapons,
Pentagon spokesman Lawrence Di Rita said Friday
in Washington.
The 377 tons that Iraq says vanished from Al-Qaqaa
sometime after the April 9, 2003 fall of Baghdad
represents just one 1,000th of the material that
we are aware of, Di Rita said.
The Bush administration has touted the thousands of
tons of explosives it did find after the March 2003
invasion as a sign of success, and officials argue
that U.S. forces pushing to Baghdad to topple Saddam
Hussein could not stop to secure every cache.
Critics, however, say war planners should have
committed more troops to the task of securing sites
or let U.N. inspectors back to help.
In insurgents hands
The debate is sharpened by the possibility that
whatever munitions unsecured may since have fallen
into the hands of Iraqi insurgents leading a bloody
campaign of bombings and attacks on U.S. forces
since the fall of Saddam Hussein.
Among the sites that don't appear to have been
secured was a cache of hundreds of surface-to-surface
warheads at the 2nd Military College in Baqouba,
35 miles northeast of Baghdad. Each warhead
is believed to have contained 57 pounds of high
explosives.
Peter Bouckaert, who heads the emergency team
for New York-based Human Rights Watch, told The
Associated Press he was shown a room stacked
to the roof with the warheads on May 9, 2003.
He said he gave U.S. officials in Baghdad the
exact GPS coordinates for the site, but that
it was still not secured when he left the
area 10 days later.
Looting was taking place by a lot of armed men
with Kalashnikovs and rocket-propelled grenades,
Bouckaert said Saturday in a telephone interview
from South Africa.
Everyone's focused on Al-Qaqaa, when what was
at the military college could keep a guerrilla
group in business for a long time creating the
kinds of bombs that are being used in suicide
attacks every day, he said.
What about Ukhaider?
Another prominent site is an ammunition storage
area at Ukhaider, 75 miles south of Baghdad,
where U.N. inspectors found 11 empty chemical
warheads in excellent condition in January 2003.
Two U.S. aid workers reported looting at Ukhaider
in October 2003, but were told the U.S. military
didn?t have enough troops to seal the site, The
Oregonian reported Friday.
David Albright, a former U.N. inspector, said the
sheer volume of weapons stored across Iraq should
have prompted the United States to invite inspectors
back to check on key sites such as Al-Qaqaa.
Instead, he told the AP, there was a lot of arrogance
on the part of U.S. officials who rebuffed the
International Atomic Energy Agency's repeated requests
to resume general inspections.
IAEA inspectors pulled out of Iraq on March 16,
2003, a few days before the invasion. They since
have been allowed to return only twice, both times
to check on the Tuwaitha nuclear complex, the U.N.
agency?s main concern in Iraq. They have not been
back to Al-Qaqaa.
Focus on HMX
The IAEA, which informed the U.N. Security Council
about the missing explosives last week, says Al-Qaqaa
is important because it was the main storage site
for HMX, which can be used in plastic explosives
but also in ignitors for a nuclear weapon.
Al-Qaqaa also contained large stores of RDX and PETN,
but the U.N. nuclear agency's main concern was the
HMX. Although the IAEA said Saddam's nuclear program
was in disarray before the war and there was no
evidence that Iraq had revived efforts to build
atomic weaponry, the agency placed the material
under seal as a precaution.
It remains unclear whether U.S.-led forces attempted
to secure the vast site, which the Iraqis say was
looted due to a lack of security after Saddam's
fall. The White House contends the material may
have been removed before American troops arrived
in the area.
Army Maj. Austin Pearson said his team removed
250 tons of munitions, including plastic explosives,
from Al-Qaqaa on April 13, 2003. But those munitions
were not under IAEA seal as the missing high-grade
explosives were, and the Pentagon was unable to say
definitively that they were part of the missing 377
tons.
Cordesman thinks the Pentagon is taking a bad rap on
Al- Qaqaa. U.S. forces main task at the time, he
contends, was to advance swiftly on Baghdad.
There was little military point in securing this
particular site during a period the U.S. was rushing
forward with limited forward-deployed strength
to seize Baghdad before Saddam's forces had any
chance to regroup, he said.
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Kerry - two medals a silver and bronze star.
Bush? Well they don't give medals
for going AWOL, missing your medical and
getting grounded or falling off of a bar stool.
Kerry - a hero, Bush - a zero
Cheerful Charlie
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01 Nov 2004 11:14:04 AM |
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In our last episode, <2un8qrF2bk5rgU1@uni-berlin.de>, the lovely and
talented David Saranga broadcast on austin.politics:
"wbarwell" <wbarwell@munnnged.mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
news:4185f469$0$169$811e409b@news.mylinuxisp.com...
Ray Fischer wrote:
Gyude Bryant <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
This is the terriorist *****, John Kerry wants to withdraw troops
from
ASAP.
Get this. After the Osama tape surfaced, Cheney said he was happy
as it reminded people of terrorism!
Yes, it remindeds me,
About time you stupid shallow Democrat,
Kerry would have done NOTHING he would have aske the FRENCH, OH BABY WHAT
SHOULD I DO????????????????
French troops joined the effort in Afghanistan and some of them have
died there.
Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, and the French were right to stay out.
--
Lars Eighner -finger for geek code- http://www.io.com/~eighner/
"With a heavy dose of fear and violence, and a lot of money for projects,
I think we can convince these people that we are here to help them"
-- Lt. Col. Nathan Sassaman
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| User: "David Saranga" |
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01 Nov 2004 12:19:24 PM |
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"Lars Eighner" <eighner@io.com> wrote in message
news:slrncocrh9.22nn.eighner@goodwill.io.com...
In our last episode, <2un8qrF2bk5rgU1@uni-berlin.de>, the lovely and
talented David Saranga broadcast on austin.politics:
"wbarwell" <wbarwell@munnnged.mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
news:4185f469$0$169$811e409b@news.mylinuxisp.com...
Ray Fischer wrote:
Gyude Bryant <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
This is the terriorist *****, John Kerry wants to withdraw troops
from
ASAP.
Get this. After the Osama tape surfaced, Cheney said he was happy
as it reminded people of terrorism!
Yes, it remindeds me,
About time you stupid shallow Democrat,
Kerry would have done NOTHING he would have aske the FRENCH, OH BABY
WHAT
SHOULD I DO????????????????
French troops joined the effort in Afghanistan and some of them have
died there.
Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, and the French were right to stay out.
Iraq refused to corporate with the UN for 10 years, and could never account
for the WMD that it had after the first war.
The French were buying OIL from IRAQ, so was Germany and Russia and Iraq
Owed all three billions of dollars.
That is why the Frogs stayed out, $$ Money.
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| User: "MoleWhacker" |
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01 Nov 2004 09:53:03 PM |
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"David Saranga" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:2uncv9F2c6i4sU1@uni-berlin.de...
"Lars Eighner" <eighner@io.com> wrote in message
news:slrncocrh9.22nn.eighner@goodwill.io.com...
In our last episode, <2un8qrF2bk5rgU1@uni-berlin.de>, the lovely and
talented David Saranga broadcast on austin.politics:
"wbarwell" <wbarwell@munnnged.mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
news:4185f469$0$169$811e409b@news.mylinuxisp.com...
Ray Fischer wrote:
Gyude Bryant <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
This is the terriorist *****, John Kerry wants to withdraw
troops
from
ASAP.
Get this. After the Osama tape surfaced, Cheney said he was happy
as it reminded people of terrorism!
Yes, it remindeds me,
About time you stupid shallow Democrat,
Kerry would have done NOTHING he would have aske the FRENCH, OH BABY
WHAT
SHOULD I DO????????????????
French troops joined the effort in Afghanistan and some of them have
died there.
Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, and the French were right to stay out.
Iraq refused to corporate with the UN for 10 years, and could never
account
for the WMD that it had after the first war.
WHACK!!!!
RUSHFELTCH! You are beyond cites and the truth. You have been poisoned by
the CoolAid. Rushcum has blinded you. Your ignorant statement shows a
complete and utter lack of Reality....
The French were buying OIL from IRAQ, so was Germany and Russia and Iraq
Owed all three billions of dollars.
That is why the Frogs stayed out, $$ Money.
WHACK!!!!
You are spewing, and your flopsweat is somehow making it down the cooper
wires to my computer. My third nostril is offended by the psychic stench of
Desperation, and Denial, wrastlin' with the smoking shards of your withered
brain...
Cluing you to the numerous news stories online that would demonstrate your
total ignorance of the oil bidness in Iraq prior to the Shrub
Crusades/landgrab would be a usless expenditure of energy.
You total ignorance makes you irrelevant, and a loser, just like Shrub....
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03 Nov 2004 03:15:12 PM |
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MoleWhacker wrote:
You total ignorance makes you irrelevant, and a loser, just like Shrub....
Um, I don't know how to break this to you, Moley, but . . .
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| User: "MoleWhacker" |
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04 Nov 2004 08:45:55 PM |
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"God Bless Texas" <no.where.no.one@no.how.no.way.no.spam.com> wrote in
message news:ATbid.2637$nD6.327@fe2.texas.rr.com...
MoleWhacker wrote:
You total ignorance makes you irrelevant, and a loser, just like
Shrub....
Um, I don't know how to break this to you, Moley, but . . .
WHACK!!!!
Go on.....You won't hurt my feelins'...
MoleWhacker
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| User: "God Bless Texas" |
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05 Nov 2004 08:36:49 AM |
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MoleWhacker wrote:
"God Bless Texas" <no.where.no.one@no.how.no.way.no.spam.com> wrote
MoleWhacker wrote:
You total ignorance makes you irrelevant, and a loser, just like Shrub....
Um, I don't know how to break this to you, Moley, but . . .
WHACK!!!!
Go on.....You won't hurt my feelins'...
OK - there's a large majority of us who don't think "Shrub" is the
loser, compared to you.
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| User: "MoleWhacker" |
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05 Nov 2004 02:29:14 PM |
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"God Bless Texas" <no.where.no.one@no.how.no.way.no.spam.com> wrote in
message news:5eMid.25639$IE1.3740@fe1.texas.rr.com...
MoleWhacker wrote:
"God Bless Texas" <no.where.no.one@no.how.no.way.no.spam.com> wrote
MoleWhacker wrote:
You total ignorance makes you irrelevant, and a loser, just like
Shrub....
Um, I don't know how to break this to you, Moley, but . . .
WHACK!!!!
Go on.....You won't hurt my feelins'...
OK - there's a large majority of us who don't think "Shrub" is the
loser, compared to you.
WHACK!!!!
Then 'think' away! At least MY budget is balanced, and I haven't caused the
death
of 1,124 Americans in a flawed landgrab for my oil/robber baron buddies.
Not only that, but I am not embarrassing my nation, nor do I hear voices in
MY head.....
The only loser here is our once great Nation, and the millions who ignored
the reality of our fiscal and security issues to make sure that gays would
never be allowed to marry. Good work, dufusses......
MoleWhacker
WWHD?
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| User: "George Kerby" |
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03 Nov 2004 03:54:48 PM |
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On 11/3/04 3:15 PM, in article ATbid.2637$nD6.327@fe2.texas.rr.com, "God
Bless Texas" <no.where.no.one@no.how.no.way.no.spam.com> wrote:
MoleWhacker wrote:
You total ignorance makes you irrelevant, and a loser, just like Shrub....
Um, I don't know how to break this to you, Moley, but . . .
Where IS Whackjob?!?
Maybe he commited "the Final Whack"?
We all should be so LUCKY!
--
"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke
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| User: "MoleWhacker" |
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04 Nov 2004 08:51:15 PM |
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"George Kerby" <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:BDAEAFC1.A576%ghost_topper@hotmail.com...
On 11/3/04 3:15 PM, in article ATbid.2637$nD6.327@fe2.texas.rr.com, "God
Bless Texas" <no.where.no.one@no.how.no.way.no.spam.com> wrote:
MoleWhacker wrote:
You total ignorance makes you irrelevant, and a loser, just like
Shrub....
Um, I don't know how to break this to you, Moley, but . . .
Where IS Whackjob?!?
Maybe he commited "the Final Whack"?
We all should be so LUCKY!
WHACK!!!!!
Lucky? You've sooooo damn lucky, you've won Shrub for another four, long ,
destructive, world burnin' years.
Oh Lucky, lucky Curbside!
Too damn bad about those American, and British soldiers though....
And you are soooo lucky that you'll be dead when the bills keep comin' to
your kids and grandkids, and their kids.....
WHACK!!!!WHACK!!!!WHACK!!!!
--
"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke
"At the yummy-chocolate center of Rethuglican ideology is a spoiled soul -
withered, as all Rethuglican souls are, pathological,
demented, slavish, snarling and frothing.
Rethuglican ideology is a failed doctrine of rotting Ronny."
B.J. M'Buddy
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03 Nov 2004 05:51:16 PM |
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On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 21:15:12 GMT, God Bless Texas
<no.where.no.one@no.how.no.way.no.spam.com> wrote:
MoleWhacker wrote:
You total ignorance makes you irrelevant, and a loser, just like Shrub....
Um, I don't know how to break this to you, Moley, but . . .
America lost. Big time.
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| User: "smithereens" |
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01 Nov 2004 12:46:17 PM |
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On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 12:19:24 -0600, "David Saranga" <nospam@nospam.com>
wrote:
"Lars Eighner" <eighner@io.com> wrote in message
news:slrncocrh9.22nn.eighner@goodwill.io.com...
In our last episode, <2un8qrF2bk5rgU1@uni-berlin.de>, the lovely and
talented David Saranga broadcast on austin.politics:
"wbarwell" <wbarwell@munnnged.mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
news:4185f469$0$169$811e409b@news.mylinuxisp.com...
Ray Fischer wrote:
Gyude Bryant <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
This is the terriorist *****, John Kerry wants to withdraw troops
from
ASAP.
Get this. After the Osama tape surfaced, Cheney said he was happy
as it reminded people of terrorism!
Yes, it remindeds me,
About time you stupid shallow Democrat,
Kerry would have done NOTHING he would have aske the FRENCH, OH BABY
WHAT
SHOULD I DO????????????????
French troops joined the effort in Afghanistan and some of them have
died there.
Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, and the French were right to stay out.
Iraq refused to corporate with the UN for 10 years, and could never account
for the WMD that it had after the first war.
so it's our job to enforce u.n. resolutions eh?
israel has ignored every u.n. resolution against it.
aren't republicans supposed to be against the u.n. and everything it
stands for? rush limbaugh rants and raves against the u.n. every day.
freakin lame excuse for 1100+ deaths.
not to mention 100,000+ iraqis who were "liberated" by u.s. bombs.
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| User: "David Saranga" |
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01 Nov 2004 01:54:27 PM |
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"smithereens" <no@nohow.biz> wrote in message
news:0r0do058dklvdhkgg9b9m7lhsmdq6kdq6t@4ax.com...
On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 12:19:24 -0600, "David Saranga" <nospam@nospam.com>
wrote:
"Lars Eighner" <eighner@io.com> wrote in message
news:slrncocrh9.22nn.eighner@goodwill.io.com...
In our last episode, <2un8qrF2bk5rgU1@uni-berlin.de>, the lovely and
talented David Saranga broadcast on austin.politics:
"wbarwell" <wbarwell@munnnged.mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
news:4185f469$0$169$811e409b@news.mylinuxisp.com...
Ray Fischer wrote:
Gyude Bryant <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
This is the terriorist *****, John Kerry wants to withdraw
troops
from
ASAP.
Get this. After the Osama tape surfaced, Cheney said he was happy
as it reminded people of terrorism!
Yes, it remindeds me,
About time you stupid shallow Democrat,
Kerry would have done NOTHING he would have aske the FRENCH, OH BABY
WHAT
SHOULD I DO????????????????
French troops joined the effort in Afghanistan and some of them have
died there.
Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, and the French were right to stay
out.
Iraq refused to corporate with the UN for 10 years, and could never
account
for the WMD that it had after the first war.
so it's our job to enforce u.n. resolutions eh?
After 10 years, and 9/11 we are not in the mood to let Iraq slide anymore.
israel has ignored every u.n. resolution against it.
They didn't spray poison gas on people.
aren't republicans supposed to be against the u.n. and everything it
stands for? rush limbaugh rants and raves against the u.n. every day.
UN is Corrupt
freakin lame excuse for 1100+ deaths.
Screw you, They were definding your *****, you are too stupid to know it.
not to mention 100,000+ iraqis who were "liberated" by u.s. bombs.
They started the war, we want the War to be over there, not here.
Mush brains like you promote war by being so stinking passive, Hitler loves
you.
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| User: "George Kerby" |
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01 Nov 2004 12:46:35 PM |
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On 11/1/04 11:14 AM, in article slrncocrh9.22nn.eighner@goodwill.io.com,
"Lars Eighner" <eighner@io.com> wrote:
In our last episode, <2un8qrF2bk5rgU1@uni-berlin.de>, the lovely and
talented David Saranga broadcast on austin.politics:
"wbarwell" <wbarwell@munnnged.mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
news:4185f469$0$169$811e409b@news.mylinuxisp.com...
Ray Fischer wrote:
Gyude Bryant <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
This is the terriorist *****, John Kerry wants to withdraw troops
from
ASAP.
Get this. After the Osama tape surfaced, Cheney said he was happy
as it reminded people of terrorism!
Yes, it remindeds me,
About time you stupid shallow Democrat,
Kerry would have done NOTHING he would have aske the FRENCH, OH BABY WHAT
SHOULD I DO????????????????
French troops joined the effort in Afghanistan and some of them have
died there.
Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, and the French were right to stay out.
The pussies stayed out because of the scandalous nature of their
relationship with Saddam's "Oil for Food" *****. They were making $$$$
from others' misery, just like you dumbshit DemoCrap ZOMBIES.
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02 Nov 2004 12:38:01 AM |
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"George Kerby" <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:BDABE0A9.9794%ghost_topper@hotmail.com...
On 11/1/04 11:14 AM, in article slrncocrh9.22nn.eighner@goodwill.io.com,
"Lars Eighner" <eighner@io.com> wrote:
In our last episode, <2un8qrF2bk5rgU1@uni-berlin.de>, the lovely and
talented David Saranga broadcast on austin.politics:
"wbarwell" <wbarwell@munnnged.mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
news:4185f469$0$169$811e409b@news.mylinuxisp.com...
Ray Fischer wrote:
Gyude Bryant <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
This is the terriorist *****, John Kerry wants to withdraw
troops
from
ASAP.
Get this. After the Osama tape surfaced, Cheney said he was happy
as it reminded people of terrorism!
Yes, it remindeds me,
About time you stupid shallow Democrat,
Kerry would have done NOTHING he would have aske the FRENCH, OH BABY
WHAT
SHOULD I DO????????????????
French troops joined the effort in Afghanistan and some of them have
died there.
Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, and the French were right to stay out.
The pussies stayed out because of the scandalous nature of their
relationship with Saddam's "Oil for Food" *****. They were making $$$$
from others' misery, just like you dumbshit DemoCrap ZOMBIES.
WHACK!!!!
ShortBus: You are
Frothing and squirming, I see.
For scandalous, check out where most of the Iraqi oil ended up.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/latimests/20041018/ts_latimes/usbuyersofhusseinsoilactedtoassistiraq
Got a ChevronTexaco gas card? Collaborator!
Your team is beaten down, it's in the last seconds of a losing game, and you
have hoisted the retarded cheerleader up onto your weak shoulders so that we
can all see him better. Who is inspired?
Dumbshit.....
MoleWhacker
War Crimes Trials '05!
Get your tickets NOW,
as the scalpers will be brutal.....
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01 Nov 2004 01:43:07 PM |
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George Kerby wrote:
The pussies stayed out because of the scandalous nature of their
relationship with Saddam's "Oil for Food" *****. They were making $$$$
from others' misery, just like you dumbshit DemoCrap ZOMBIES.
You stupid, ill informed, dumb, ignorant right winger!
Don't you ever read a decent newspaper?
It was the US oil companies that had their snouts deep up
Sadam's *****! Many of the CEOs of these companies sit in
offices in downtown Houston!
The New York Times
October 11, 2004
THE U.N. PROGRAM
New Scrutiny of the Flow of Iraqi Oil to American Consumers
By SIMON ROMERO and SCOTT SHANE
As Saddam Hussein pressed the United Nations oil-for-food relief program
for more money that he used to buy banned weapons, an unwitting ally may
have been the American driver. Almost until the eve of the invasion of Iraq
in March 2003, American oil
companies were among the largest purchasers of Iraqi crude oil.
The role that the companies, including ExxonMobil and ChevronTexaco,
played in the oil-for-food program is now coming under greater scrutiny in
the wake of a report by the chief arms inspector for the Central
Intelligence Agency that disclosed how
extensively Mr. Hussein was abusing profits from the oil sales.
Executives at the two companies insisted over the weekend that their
purchases of Iraqi oil were not illegal or unknown in international oil
markets in recent years. Industry analysts also said they did not know of
any improprieties by the companies.
"All of our purchases of Iraqi crude were conducted in full compliance
with the program," a spokesman for ChevronTexaco, Michael Barrett, said.
In 2001, Iraq was the source of 7 percent of all United States petroleum
imports, ranking sixth behind the largest foreign suppliers: Saudi Arabia,
Canada, Venezuela, Mexico and Nigeria, according to the Energy Department.
Yet while such imports were considered routine, disclosures about
irregularities in how the Iraqi government selected partners to market the
oil have led to several investigations of the program - by the United
Nations, Congressional committees and a
federal grand jury. The United States attorney's office in Manhattan has
issued subpoenas to several American companies whose names appear on the
Iraqi list as having received vouchers for Iraqi oil.
A spokesman for the House International Relations Committee said
yesterday that the committee was exploring which oil companies had received
Iraqi oil or had been trading in the vouchers. While committee
investigators had been concentrating on the
connection between vouchers and Iraqi arms purchases, the report issued
last week by Charles A. Duelfer, the arms inspector, that named United
States oil companies as recipients of vouchers was now prompting the
panel's investigators to expand their
inquiry to include the United States oil companies as well.
In the meantime, an investigator associated with the independent United
Nations-appointed panel looking into corruption in the oil-for-food
program, said that his group had not begun investigating whether or how
American and other oil companies had
benefited. The panel, led by Paul A. Volcker, the former chairman of the
Federal Reserve system, is concentrating on accusations of wrongdoing by
United Nations employees and companies like Cotecna Inspection of
Switzerland and Saybolt International, a
Dutch concern, which the United Nations hired to monitor parts of the
program.
The investigator said that the panel would only begin to focus on oil
companies that got Iraqi crude oil, with or without United Nations
authorization, after this initial phase of the inquiry was completed, which
is likely to be weeks or even months
away. The investigator noted that the panel did not have subpoena power
and lacked the authority to take punitive action against any company,
American or foreign. Under the oil-for-food program, he said, member
countries, not the United Nations, were
responsible for ensuring that their companies obeyed sanctions against
Iraq.
The House Energy and Commerce Committee has also joined the inquiry, with
the chairman, Representative Joe L. Barton, Republican of Texas, sending a
letter last Thursday to the United Nations secretary general, Kofi Annan,
asking Mr. Annan to release
"any information in U.N. possession which relates to the use of
oil-for-food money to produce chemical weapons in Iraq."
The oil-for-food program, over its life, resulted in $64.2 billion in
sales, making it the world's largest relief program, American officials
say. The amount of oil sold fluctuated as the program went on. At the
start, in December 1996, Iraq was allowed
to sell only $2 billion worth of oil every six months. That limit was
raised to $5.26 billion every six months by December 1999 and then was
lifted altogether, until the oil-for-food program came to an end in March
2003.
The program allowed Iraq the power to determine, with certain exceptions,
whom it sold oil to and whom it bought goods from, based on the profits of
the sale, according to the United Nations, but the United Nations had veto
authority over all the
contracts. For a United States oil company to participate, it first
needed permission from Washington. The revenue ultimately financed $31
billion of relief supplies and equipment, including $1.6 billion of
oil-industry spare parts and equipment, among
other items, according to the United Nations.
At the same time, Mr. Hussein was imposing illegal surcharges, collecting
kickbacks and smuggling oil outside the approved program, generating almost
$11 billion in illicit revenue, which he used to buy weapons, other
prohibited items and to build
lavish palaces, according to the Duelfer report.
Moreover, oil experts have said, the largest source of money from
unreported oil sales was from Iraq's illicit sale of oil to neighboring
Turkey and Jordan. Neither the United States nor Britain objected to these
sales to staunch Middle East allies
until Mr. Hussein's government began making similar oil shipments to
Syria. Only then did Washington protest the deals, the experts said.
Regardless of the route through which this oil reached world markets, the
United States was the single largest importer under the United Nations
program, with as much as half the oil in certain periods processed at
American refineries for sale in this
country.
During the first seven months of 2002, the United States imported an
average of 566,000 barrels a day from Iraq, with big importers including
ExxonMobil, ChevronTexaco, Valero Energy and Koch Petroleum, according to
the Energy Department.
These American companies acquired the oil after it passed through a
complicated route of trading concerns and intermediaries. The Duelfer
report said that Bayoil, a Houston-based trading company, and Oscar S.
Wyatt Jr., a prominent Texas energy investor
with a long history of dealings in Iraq, were among those who received
vouchers to buy Iraqi oil under the program. Their receipt of these oil
allocations does not mean that they did anything illegal.
Mr. Wyatt did not respond yesterday to requests for comment, and messages
left at Bayoil's offices were not answered.
Illustrating the convoluted way Iraqi oil reached the United States, the
Energy Information Administration estimated in late 2002 that about 30
percent of it was first sold to Russian companies, with the rest bought by
companies from nations including
Cyprus, Sudan and Pakistan.
The Iraqi oil was resold to intermediaries who then marketed it
internationally, largely to American oil companies. For example, in 2001,
the energy administration estimated that significant amounts of Iraqi crude
oil wound up at American refineries,
some of which had been built decades ago in part to handle Iraqi blends.
Almost 80 percent of crude oil from the Basra region and more than 30
percent of oil from Kirkuk went to the United States in 2001, according to
the energy administration. Imports of Iraqi oil under the program grew from
an average of 89,000 barrels a
day in 1997, to a peak of 795,000 barrels in 2001, and then declining to
459,000 barrels a day in 2002, the Energy Department said.
Eric Lipton and Judith Miller contributed reporting for this article.
--
Kerry - two medals a silver and bronze star.
Bush? Well they don't give medals
for going AWOL, missing your medical and
getting grounded or falling off of a bar stool.
Kerry - a hero, Bush - a zero
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "Lars Eighner" |
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01 Nov 2004 01:07:01 PM |
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In our last episode,
<BDABE0A9.9794%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>,
the lovely and talented George Kerby
broadcast on austin.general:
On 11/1/04 11:14 AM, in article slrncocrh9.22nn.eighner@goodwill.io.com,
"Lars Eighner" < > wrote:
In our last episode, <2un8qrF2bk5rgU1@uni-berlin.de>, the lovely and
talented David Saranga broadcast on austin.politics:
"wbarwell" <wbarwell@munnnged.mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
news:4185f469$0$169$811e409b@news.mylinuxisp.com...
Ray Fischer wrote:
Gyude Bryant <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
This is the terriorist *****, John Kerry wants to withdraw troops
from
ASAP.
Get this. After the Osama tape surfaced, Cheney said he was happy
as it reminded people of terrorism!
Yes, it remindeds me,
About time you stupid shallow Democrat,
Kerry would have done NOTHING he would have aske the FRENCH, OH BABY WHAT
SHOULD I DO????????????????
French troops joined the effort in Afghanistan and some of them have
died there.
Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, and the French were right to stay out.
The pussies stayed out because of the scandalous nature of their
relationship with Saddam's "Oil for Food" *****. They were making $$$$
from others' misery, just like you dumbshit DemoCrap ZOMBIES.
So are you saying Halliburton is ZOMBIES or is Halliburton French?
Seeing the light at the end of the tunnel, yet? Iraq is Vietnam
all over again, and if you are expecting a different outcome, you
are crazy.
--
Lars Eighner -finger for geek code- http://www.io.com/~eighner/
"With a heavy dose of fear and violence, and a lot of money for projects,
I think we can convince these people that we are here to help them"
-- Lt. Col. Nathan Sassaman
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| User: "George Kerby" |
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01 Nov 2004 01:25:39 PM |
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On 11/1/04 1:07 PM, in article slrncod253.22nn.eighner@goodwill.io.com,
"Lars Eighner" <eighner@io.com> wrote:
In our last episode,
<BDABE0A9.9794%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>,
the lovely and talented George Kerby
broadcast on austin.general:
On 11/1/04 11:14 AM, in article slrncocrh9.22nn.eighner@goodwill.io.com,
"Lars Eighner" <eighner@io.com> wrote:
In our last episode, <2un8qrF2bk5rgU1@uni-berlin.de>, the lovely and
talented David Saranga broadcast on austin.politics:
"wbarwell" <wbarwell@munnnged.mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
news:4185f469$0$169$811e409b@news.mylinuxisp.com...
Ray Fischer wrote:
Gyude Bryant <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
This is the terriorist *****, John Kerry wants to withdraw troops
from
ASAP.
Get this. After the Osama tape surfaced, Cheney said he was happy
as it reminded people of terrorism!
Yes, it remindeds me,
About time you stupid shallow Democrat,
Kerry would have done NOTHING he would have aske the FRENCH, OH BABY WHAT
SHOULD I DO????????????????
French troops joined the effort in Afghanistan and some of them have
died there.
Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, and the French were right to stay out.
The pussies stayed out because of the scandalous nature of their
relationship with Saddam's "Oil for Food" *****. They were making $$$$
from others' misery, just like you dumbshit DemoCrap ZOMBIES.
So are you saying Halliburton is ZOMBIES or is Halliburton French?
You morons are so THICK-HEADED! What the ***** does Halliburton have to do
with what I just said? Truly sad and pathetic fool...
Seeing the light at the end of the tunnel, yet? Iraq is Vietnam
all over again, and if you are expecting a different outcome, you
are crazy.
The light is the shining light of freedom of the Iraqi people. The
similaities to Vietnam end where Lurch wanted us OUT and lied about his
buddies activities in the 70's, he is NOW lie about wanting to help the
servicemen. Fucking hipocryte could NEVER make a dam dime of his own but
married into money made by others. 20+ years as a senator and what does the
stupid ***** have to show for it besides naming some dam building and a
dolphin-friendly bill. What a hoot! The people of Mass are being laughed at
for continuing to return the lap poodle. But, I mean, LOOK at the SENIOR
senator from there: Swollen-headed hasn't been sober since he tried to jump
that bridge...
--
"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke
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02 Nov 2004 01:05:52 AM |
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"George Kerby" <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:BDABE9D1.98D5%ghost_topper@hotmail.com...
On 11/1/04 1:07 PM, in article slrncod253.22nn.eighner@goodwill.io.com,
"Lars Eighner" <eighner@io.com> wrote:
In our last episode,
<BDABE0A9.9794%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>,
the lovely and talented George Kerby
broadcast on austin.general:
On 11/1/04 11:14 AM, in article
slrncocrh9.22nn.eighner@goodwill.io.com,
"Lars Eighner" <eighner@io.com> wrote:
In our last episode, <2un8qrF2bk5rgU1@uni-berlin.de>, the lovely and
talented David Saranga broadcast on austin.politics:
"wbarwell" <wbarwell@munnnged.mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
news:4185f469$0$169$811e409b@news.mylinuxisp.com...
Ray Fischer wrote:
Gyude Bryant <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
This is the terriorist *****, John Kerry wants to withdraw
troops
from
ASAP.
Get this. After the Osama tape surfaced, Cheney said he was happy
as it reminded people of terrorism!
Yes, it remindeds me,
About time you stupid shallow Democrat,
Kerry would have done NOTHING he would have aske the FRENCH, OH BABY
WHAT
SHOULD I DO????????????????
French troops joined the effort in Afghanistan and some of them have
died there.
Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, and the French were right to stay
out.
The pussies stayed out because of the scandalous nature of their
relationship with Saddam's "Oil for Food" *****. They were making
$$$$
from others' misery, just like you dumbshit DemoCrap ZOMBIES.
So are you saying Halliburton is ZOMBIES or is Halliburton French?
You morons are so THICK-HEADED! What the ***** does Halliburton have to do
with what I just said?
WHACK!!!!! They are crusading liars and you are a crusading liar.
Truly sad and pathetic fool...
Seeing the light at the end of the tunnel, yet? Iraq is Vietnam
all over again, and if you are expecting a different outcome, you
are crazy.
The light is the shining light of freedom of the Iraqi people.
WHACK!!!! Or the shining light of an artillery barrage throwing a shower of
flaming death on the women and children unlucky enough to be living on the
same block as a suspected insurgent.
The
similaities to Vietnam end where Lurch wanted us OUT and lied about his
buddies activities in the 70's, he is NOW lie about wanting to help the
servicemen.
WHACK!!!!
You are vomitting up Rushfeltch, ShortBus. He cares more about our troops
than Shrub could, ever. Shrub hasn't even been to a soldiers funeral, for
gods sake!
Fucking hipocryte could NEVER make a dam dime of his own but
married into money made by others. 20+ years as a senator and what does
the
stupid ***** have to show for it besides naming some dam building and a
dolphin-friendly bill. What a hoot!
Oh, and initiating the Iran/Contra investigation and subsequent Senate
investigation, busting the crooked spook/drug/Terrorists' Bank of BCCI, and
negotiating the return of our MIAs from Viet Nam.
What a statesman.....
The people of Mass are being laughed at
for continuing to return the lap poodle.
WHACK!!!!
Laughed at by YOU; but you laugh at dying US soldiers. Strange sense of
humor there, Curbee.....
But, I mean, LOOK at the SENIOR
senator from there: Swollen-headed hasn't been sober since he tried to
jump
that bridge...
WHACK!!!!
Yet his constituants seem to cast their votes for him again, and again....
Those are votes of confidence and trust.
Let's have a quicky Poll....
Those that believe Kerby is trustworthy, Please SOUND OFF!!!!
If you agree with Kerbys' confident stance, SOUND OFF!!!!
If You believe, as Kerby does, that Shrubs is A-OK!, SOUND OFF!!!! --
"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke
"At the yummy-chocolate center of Rethuglican ideology is a spoiled soul -
withered, as all Rethuglican souls are, pathological,
demented, slavish, snarling and frothing.
Rethuglican ideology is a failed doctrine of rotting Ronny."--B.J. M'Buddy
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| User: "Lars Eighner" |
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01 Nov 2004 01:31:44 PM |
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In our last episode,
<BDABE9D1.98D5%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>,
the lovely and talented George Kerby
broadcast on austin.general:
On 11/1/04 1:07 PM, in article slrncod253.22nn.eighner@goodwill.io.com,
"Lars Eighner" < > wrote:
In our last episode,
<BDABE0A9.9794%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>,
the lovely and talented George Kerby
broadcast on austin.general:
On 11/1/04 11:14 AM, in article slrncocrh9.22nn.eighner@goodwill.io.com,
"Lars Eighner" < > wrote:
In our last episode, <2un8qrF2bk5rgU1@uni-berlin.de>, the lovely and
talented David Saranga broadcast on austin.politics:
"wbarwell" <wbarwell@munnnged.mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
news:4185f469$0$169$811e409b@news.mylinuxisp.com...
Ray Fischer wrote:
Gyude Bryant <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
This is the terriorist *****, John Kerry wants to withdraw troops
from
ASAP.
Get this. After the Osama tape surfaced, Cheney said he was happy
as it reminded people of terrorism!
Yes, it remindeds me,
About time you stupid shallow Democrat,
Kerry would have done NOTHING he would have aske the FRENCH, OH BABY WHAT
SHOULD I DO????????????????
French troops joined the effort in Afghanistan and some of them have
died there.
Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, and the French were right to stay out.
The pussies stayed out because of the scandalous nature of their
relationship with Saddam's "Oil for Food" *****. They were making $$$$
from others' misery, just like you dumbshit DemoCrap ZOMBIES.
So are you saying Halliburton is ZOMBIES or is Halliburton French?
You morons are so THICK-HEADED! What the ***** does Halliburton have to do
with what I just said? Truly sad and pathetic fool...
"Making $$$$ from others' misery." You wrote it. You seem to
object to that. It is what Halliburton does.
Seeing the light at the end of the tunnel, yet? Iraq is Vietnam
all over again, and if you are expecting a different outcome, you
are crazy.
The light is the shining light of freedom of the Iraqi people.
If the situation were not going to cost so much American blood
and treasure, that would be funny. We heard crap like that a
million times during Vietnam.
The similaities to Vietnam end where Lurch wanted us OUT and lied
about his buddies activities in the 70's, he is NOW lie about
wanting to help the servicemen. Fucking hipocryte could NEVER make
a dam dime of his own but married into money made by others. 20+
years as a senator and what does the stupid ***** have to show
for it besides naming some dam building and a dolphin-friendly
bill. What a hoot! The people of Mass are being laughed at for
continuing to return the lap poodle. But, I mean, LOOK at the
SENIOR senator from there: Swollen-headed hasn't been sober since
he tried to jump that bridge...
Let's see: the reason that you think Iraq is not like Vietnam is
that you do not like Sen. Kerry very much or Sen. Kennedy for that
matter. It is hard to know what to say in the face of logic and
evidence like that.
--
Lars Eighner -finger for geek code- http://www.io.com/~eighner/
"With a heavy dose of fear and violence, and a lot of money for projects,
I think we can convince these people that we are here to help them"
-- Lt. Col. Nathan Sassaman
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| User: "smithereens" |
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01 Nov 2004 03:49:04 PM |
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On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 13:31:44 -0600, Lars Eighner <eighner@io.com>
wrote:
In our last episode,
<BDABE9D1.98D5%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>,
the lovely and talented George Kerby
broadcast on austin.general:
On 11/1/04 1:07 PM, in article slrncod253.22nn.eighner@goodwill.io.com,
"Lars Eighner" <eighner@io.com> wrote:
In our last episode,
<BDABE0A9.9794%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>,
the lovely and talented George Kerby
broadcast on austin.general:
On 11/1/04 11:14 AM, in article slrncocrh9.22nn.eighner@goodwill.io.com,
"Lars Eighner" <eighner@io.com> wrote:
In our last episode, <2un8qrF2bk5rgU1@uni-berlin.de>, the lovely and
talented David Saranga broadcast on austin.politics:
"wbarwell" <wbarwell@munnnged.mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
news:4185f469$0$169$811e409b@news.mylinuxisp.com...
Ray Fischer wrote:
Gyude Bryant <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
This is the terriorist *****, John Kerry wants to withdraw troops
from
ASAP.
Get this. After the Osama tape surfaced, Cheney said he was happy
as it reminded people of terrorism!
Yes, it remindeds me,
About time you stupid shallow Democrat,
Kerry would have done NOTHING he would have aske the FRENCH, OH BABY WHAT
SHOULD I DO????????????????
French troops joined the effort in Afghanistan and some of them have
died there.
Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, and the French were right to stay out.
The pussies stayed out because of the scandalous nature of their
relationship with Saddam's "Oil for Food" *****. They were making $$$$
from others' misery, just like you dumbshit DemoCrap ZOMBIES.
So are you saying Halliburton is ZOMBIES or is Halliburton French?
You morons are so THICK-HEADED! What the ***** does Halliburton have to do
with what I just said? Truly sad and pathetic fool...
"Making $$$$ from others' misery." You wrote it. You seem to
object to that. It is what Halliburton does.
Seeing the light at the end of the tunnel, yet? Iraq is Vietnam
all over again, and if you are expecting a different outcome, you
are crazy.
The light is the shining light of freedom of the Iraqi people.
If the situation were not going to cost so much American blood
and treasure, that would be funny. We heard crap like that a
million times during Vietnam.
The similaities to Vietnam end where Lurch wanted us OUT and lied
about his buddies activities in the 70's, he is NOW lie about
wanting to help the servicemen. Fucking hipocryte could NEVER make
a dam dime of his own but married into money made by others. 20+
years as a senator and what does the stupid ***** have to show
for it besides naming some dam building and a dolphin-friendly
bill. What a hoot! The people of Mass are being laughed at for
continuing to return the lap poodle. But, I mean, LOOK at the
SENIOR senator from there: Swollen-headed hasn't been sober since
he tried to jump that bridge...
Let's see: the reason that you think Iraq is not like Vietnam is
that you do not like Sen. Kerry very much or Sen. Kennedy for that
matter. It is hard to know what to say in the face of logic and
evidence like that.
the bush cult says iraq is not like vietnam.
ergo iraq is not like vietnam.
remember "we're an empire now. we make our own reality"
it's the power to make a turkey look like an eagle.
bush says it. the bible says it. you better believe it.
or else the terrorists will come nuke your house.
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