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User: "Snubis"
Date: 04 Jul 2003 09:18:11 PM
Object: Top 10 Reasons why the US sucks
10) TV.
American TV is 99% trash, plain and simple. The licensing system over
here has it's flaws but at least it keeps the BBC as the highest
quality and most respected broadcaster on the planet. American TV has
been ruined by commercialism, and the "entertainment" it provides is
merely low quality "chewing gum for the brain" from the idiot's
lantern. All those channels are no good if the best you can do is
Friends.
9) Walt Disney
The archetypal American Dream. Shamelessly capitalist creator of
America's childhood, twisting fairy tales and European myths into his
own Americanised fantasies while growing fat and rich from the
allowances of the innocent. Also a deviant pervert, despite his
outward family image. The perfect metaphor for American society.
8) Snacks
Sorry guys, but when it comes to food of the sweet variety you're all
fucking clueless. Chocolate in the US sucks, you wouldn't know a
decent cake if it bit you on the *****, and donuts ain't all that.
7) The Klan.
I don't think I need to say much more than it's a pretty fucked up
country where so many fervent "christians" feel the need to murder
those that look different to them just to prove their love of God.
6) Sports.
Baseball? Rounders, more like. The single dullest sport on the planet,
even duller than cricket. Basketball? Girls play that over here until
they hit their teens, when they find better things to do. The fact
that you have to score 100 points to make it interesting says a lot.
American Football? ***** rugby, more like. Ditch the pads, keep the
same 15 guys out there for the full 80 minutes and keep the play going
until someone gets killed and you've got yourselves a proper sport.
And stop paying them $30 million to sit on a bench for four months of
the year.
5) The Constitution.
The single most annoying thing about American politics, and the cause
of more left wing whining than any other sheet of paper in history.
The First Amendment is a good idea in theory, admittedly, but the
right to bear arms? See #1 for my opinions on that one.
4) Education
The US High School diploma is all but worthless. In my final year of
high school we had a mass induction of about 25 kids of various ages
from Seattle, who all had to join classes with kids at least one,
usually two years younger than them because the American school system
is so far behind European standards. I've heard stories about UK high
school graduates doing the reverse at US colleges - getting bumped
ahead because the American kids are being tought things we learned at
16.
3) Obesity
Linked with your obsession with junk food. Life is too cheap in the
States, and when you mix in arrogance, greed and stupidity you get fat
people. Hundreds of thousands of fat people. The last figures that the
British media were having a good laugh at suggested that around 40% of
all Americans have weight problems... that's about 150 *million*
people. And if you do lose weight that you should never have had in
the first place, you go on TV and cry with Sally Jesse Raphael about
your miserable childhood...
2) Therapy
...which brings me nicely to my second point. Shut the ***** up about
your horrible childhoods and just get on with it. All the *****
psychiatry that goes on in America is the biggest joke in the western
hemisphere right now. Self help books, anger therapy, $300 an hour
sessions with some quack who just listens to your problems and then
sends you a bill for advice you could have asked your mother for (if
you know who she is), and because they have a certificate you think
it's all going to be okay. Anywhere else we'd just forget about it,
let the past go and get on with our lives.
1) Crime
Pete may have gone on and on about three little kids dying in the UK
and how the whole country had come to a standstill, but here's
something he didn't consider: that sort of thing is *rare* over here,
and that's why it makes headline news nationwide. You know how many
people were shot and killed in the UK last year? Around 500. Crime in
Britain is nothing, small change. There are more murders in LA and New
York than there are in Britain. And we can walk to the grocery store
without fear of having our shoes stolen at gunpoint to feed some
teenager's crack habit. Over here, that kid is drug free, and either
working or finishing school. Recently two of our people experienced
what life in the US is like as they were held at gunpoint in their
Kissimee hotel room and forced to perform sex acts, then the man was
locked in the bathroom while the gunman raped his wife. America the
beautiful? Don't make me laugh.
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User: "junegill"

Title: Re: Top 10 Reasons why the US sucks 05 Jul 2003 11:47:47 AM
"Snubis" <snubis@bogus.com> wrote in message
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10) TV.

Top ten reasons why the US is great (and please note that I am English):
10 The people - I've been astounded at their generosity and kindness on my
visits there.
9 Spectacular scenery on a huge scale.
8 Sport? Outstanding tennis players and Olympic athletes.
7 The people.
6 Food? Admittedly their desserts aren't as good as ours, but the variety
and imaginative combinations of American food is great.
5 Did I mention the people?
4 The movie industry.
3 The space programmes.
2 The music industry.
1 Yes, you've guessed it ... the people.
--
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User: "Allan Lindsay-ONeal"

Title: Re: Top 10 Reasons why the US sucks 05 Jul 2003 01:40:12 PM
"Snubis" <snubis@bogus.com> wrote in message
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What's the matter, son? Got turned down for your student visa?
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User: "Chris Fleitman"

Title: Re: Top 10 Reasons why the US sucks 05 Jul 2003 03:32:55 PM
Allan Lindsay-O'Neal wrote:

"Snubis" <snubis@bogus.com> wrote in message
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What's the matter, son? Got turned down for your student visa?

Nah, he got turned down for the Green Card and got himself deported.
--
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"I am sitting here today with 'Terminator 3' about to come out, with a
great movie career and a great sports career in bodybuilding, the
creation of my family - I have lived way beyond my dreams - and all
because of America," - Arnold Schwarzenegger.
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User: "Allan Lindsay-ONeal"

Title: Re: Top 10 Reasons why the US sucks 05 Jul 2003 11:21:00 PM
"Chris Fleitman" wrote ...


Allan Lindsay-O'Neal wrote:

What's the matter, son? Got turned down for your student visa?


Nah, he got turned down for the Green Card and got himself deported.

Either way, this boy is sucking on a tit full of bitterness.
.



User: "mad amoeba"

Title: Re: Top 10 Reasons why the US sucks 05 Jul 2003 01:05:39 AM

10) TV.

European TV is much worse. I know I've seen plenty of it. Most other areas
of the world don't even have televisions. Just look at north korea. Less
then 1 TV set per 1000 people.

9) Walt Disney

WD is stupid but remember that it is targeted at children. At least in
America we don't teach them to
strap bombs on themselves and kill innocent people. Why dont you go to Saudi
Arabia and start your work over there first.

8) Snacks

Same as 10. American snacks are much better than anything Europe has ever
produced. Other third world countries' idea of snack is
still roasted pig with onions.

7) The Klan.

First I thought you were talking about germany's brown shirsts and SS...but
OK.

6) Sports.

Agree with this point. Baseball IS the dullest game on earth. But don't
frorget that we also given the world American Footbal

5) The Constitution.

Then why do so many countries keep immitating American Constitution. Just
look at russian constitution.

4) Education

Agreed. Much work to be done.


3) Obesity

Better than being emmaciated third world cretin such as yourself.

2) Therapy

we can afford to go to therapist. Jealous of our success?

1) Crime

40 muslimes killed each other off today and you dot seem to care about that.
I would imagine this would be the first on your agenda.
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User: "Omphalos"

Title: Re: Top 10 Reasons why the US sucks 05 Jul 2003 02:16:49 PM
On Fri 04 Jul 2003 10:18:11p, Snubis <snubis@bogus.com> wrote in
news:DzqNa.20849$ic1.400054@twister.tampabay.rr.com:

10) TV.

American TV is 99% trash, plain and simple. The licensing system
over here has it's flaws but at least it keeps the BBC as the
highest quality and most respected broadcaster on the planet.
American TV has been ruined by commercialism, and the
"entertainment" it provides is merely low quality "chewing gum for
the brain" from the idiot's lantern. All those channels are no good
if the best you can do is Friends.

9) Walt Disney

The archetypal American Dream. Shamelessly capitalist creator of
America's childhood, twisting fairy tales and European myths into
his own Americanised fantasies while growing fat and rich from the
allowances of the innocent. Also a deviant pervert, despite his
outward family image. The perfect metaphor for American society.

8) Snacks

Sorry guys, but when it comes to food of the sweet variety you're
all fucking clueless. Chocolate in the US sucks, you wouldn't know a
decent cake if it bit you on the *****, and donuts ain't all that.

7) The Klan.

I don't think I need to say much more than it's a pretty fucked up
country where so many fervent "christians" feel the need to murder
those that look different to them just to prove their love of God.

6) Sports.

Baseball? Rounders, more like. The single dullest sport on the
planet, even duller than cricket. Basketball? Girls play that over
here until they hit their teens, when they find better things to do.
The fact that you have to score 100 points to make it interesting
says a lot. American Football? ***** rugby, more like. Ditch the
pads, keep the same 15 guys out there for the full 80 minutes and
keep the play going until someone gets killed and you've got
yourselves a proper sport. And stop paying them $30 million to sit
on a bench for four months of the year.

5) The Constitution.

The single most annoying thing about American politics, and the
cause of more left wing whining than any other sheet of paper in
history. The First Amendment is a good idea in theory, admittedly,
but the right to bear arms? See #1 for my opinions on that one.

4) Education

The US High School diploma is all but worthless. In my final year of
high school we had a mass induction of about 25 kids of various ages
from Seattle, who all had to join classes with kids at least one,
usually two years younger than them because the American school
system is so far behind European standards. I've heard stories about
UK high school graduates doing the reverse at US colleges - getting
bumped ahead because the American kids are being tought things we
learned at 16.

3) Obesity

Linked with your obsession with junk food. Life is too cheap in the
States, and when you mix in arrogance, greed and stupidity you get
fat people. Hundreds of thousands of fat people. The last figures
that the British media were having a good laugh at suggested that
around 40% of all Americans have weight problems... that's about 150
*million* people. And if you do lose weight that you should never
have had in the first place, you go on TV and cry with Sally Jesse
Raphael about your miserable childhood...

2) Therapy

..which brings me nicely to my second point. Shut the ***** up about
your horrible childhoods and just get on with it. All the *****
psychiatry that goes on in America is the biggest joke in the
western hemisphere right now. Self help books, anger therapy, $300
an hour sessions with some quack who just listens to your problems
and then sends you a bill for advice you could have asked your
mother for (if you know who she is), and because they have a
certificate you think it's all going to be okay. Anywhere else we'd
just forget about it, let the past go and get on with our lives.

1) Crime

Pete may have gone on and on about three little kids dying in the UK
and how the whole country had come to a standstill, but here's
something he didn't consider: that sort of thing is *rare* over
here, and that's why it makes headline news nationwide. You know how
many people were shot and killed in the UK last year? Around 500.
Crime in Britain is nothing, small change. There are more murders in
LA and New York than there are in Britain. And we can walk to the
grocery store without fear of having our shoes stolen at gunpoint to
feed some teenager's crack habit. Over here, that kid is drug free,
and either working or finishing school. Recently two of our people
experienced what life in the US is like as they were held at
gunpoint in their Kissimee hotel room and forced to perform sex
acts, then the man was locked in the bathroom while the gunman raped
his wife. America the beautiful? Don't make me laugh.

Maybe it's because instead of running away or sticking our heads in
the sand or whining about what's going on, which seems to be a very
European trait, we stand up for what the hell we believe in.
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====\ /===guy is? Well half of everyone==
=====\ /======is even dumber than that=====
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http://31337.pl
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User: "sharon"

Title: Re: Top 10 Reasons why the US sucks 06 Jul 2003 12:50:52 AM
On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 19:16:49 GMT, Omphalos <omphalos@xmsg.com> wrote:

On Fri 04 Jul 2003 10:18:11p, Snubis <snubis@bogus.com> wrote in
news:DzqNa.20849$ic1.400054@twister.tampabay.rr.com:

10) TV.

American TV is 99% trash, plain and simple. The licensing system
over here has it's flaws but at least it keeps the BBC as the
highest quality and most respected broadcaster on the planet.
American TV has been ruined by commercialism, and the

........................ snip...........................


Maybe it's because instead of running away or sticking our heads in
the sand or whining about what's going on, which seems to be a very
European trait, we stand up for what the hell we believe in.

That's real admirable, but your beliefs seem to change like the wind.
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User: "Omphalos"

Title: Re: Top 10 Reasons why the US sucks 05 Jul 2003 09:52:00 AM
On Sat 05 Jul 2003 10:41:34a, Don Swayser <swayser@optonline.net>
wrote in news:3F06E38E.3040404@optonline.net:

7) The Klan.

I don't think I need to say much more than it's a pretty fucked up
country where so many fervent "christians" feel the need to murder
those that look different to them just to prove their love of God.

Oh, for God's sake, go away. The Klan is dead, and America has yet
to kill its national leader nor had a dictator. England has had
both.

The United States has had several of its Presidents assissinated.
--
__________
==\ /================================
===\ /==You know how dumb the average==
====\ /===guy is? Well half of everyone==
=====\ /======is even dumber than that=====
======\/====================================
http://31337.pl
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User: "Don Swayser"

Title: Re: Top 10 Reasons why the US sucks 05 Jul 2003 10:13:31 AM
Omphalos wrote:

On Sat 05 Jul 2003 10:41:34a, Don Swayser <swayser@optonline.net>
wrote in news:3F06E38E.3040404@optonline.net:


7) The Klan.

I don't think I need to say much more than it's a pretty fucked
up country where so many fervent "christians" feel the need to
murder those that look different to them just to prove their love
of God.


Oh, for God's sake, go away. The Klan is dead, and America has yet
to kill its national leader nor had a dictator. England has had
both.



The United States has had several of its Presidents assissinated.

No, you misunderstand, the British Government axed Charles I and Oliver
Cromwell then dismissed the parliament and took the title of Lord
Protector and remained a dictator until his death. It's a bit more
complicated than that, but that's the basics.
--
If you want to be free, there is but one way; it is to guarantee an
equally full measure of liberty to all your neighbors. There is no other.
Carl Schurz (1829-1906)
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User: "Omphalos"

Title: Re: Top 10 Reasons why the US sucks 05 Jul 2003 11:53:40 AM
On Sat 05 Jul 2003 11:49:17a, "Osprey" <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote
in news:OAednfG1Ta7nbpuiXTWJjA@comcast.com:


"Omphalos" <omphalos@xmsg.com> wrote in message
news:Xns93AF6E8A77538omphalos@130.133.1.4...

On Sat 05 Jul 2003 10:41:34a, Don Swayser <swayser@optonline.net>
wrote in news:3F06E38E.3040404@optonline.net:

7) The Klan.

I don't think I need to say much more than it's a pretty fucked
up country where so many fervent "christians" feel the need to
murder those that look different to them just to prove their
love of God.

Oh, for God's sake, go away. The Klan is dead, and America has
yet to kill its national leader nor had a dictator. England has
had both.


The United States has had several of its Presidents assissinated.


Several????

The U.S. has had four presidents assassinated. Abraham Lincoln, James
Garfield, William McKinley, and John F. Kennedy.
--
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==\ /================================
===\ /==You know how dumb the average==
====\ /===guy is? Well half of everyone==
=====\ /======is even dumber than that=====
======\/====================================
http://31337.pl
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User: "sharon"

Title: Re: Top 10 Reasons why the US sucks 05 Jul 2003 02:34:19 PM
Don't argue with Americans about them killing their leaders. They believe Warren Report.
It has something to do with their advertising industry. Package it just right, appeal to
the studip and you can get them to buy anything.
Have you seen Bowling For Columbine? That says it all!
On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 16:53:40 GMT, Omphalos <omphalos@xmsg.com> wrote:

On Sat 05 Jul 2003 11:49:17a, "Osprey" <noneedstoknow@mail.com> wrote
in news:OAednfG1Ta7nbpuiXTWJjA@comcast.com:


"Omphalos" <omphalos@xmsg.com> wrote in message
news:Xns93AF6E8A77538omphalos@130.133.1.4...

On Sat 05 Jul 2003 10:41:34a, Don Swayser <swayser@optonline.net>
wrote in news:3F06E38E.3040404@optonline.net:

7) The Klan.

I don't think I need to say much more than it's a pretty fucked
up country where so many fervent "christians" feel the need to
murder those that look different to them just to prove their
love of God.

Oh, for God's sake, go away. The Klan is dead, and America has
yet to kill its national leader nor had a dictator. England has
had both.


The United States has had several of its Presidents assissinated.


Several????


The U.S. has had four presidents assassinated. Abraham Lincoln, James
Garfield, William McKinley, and John F. Kennedy.

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User: "Michael Power"

Title: Re: Top 10 Reasons why the US sucks 05 Jul 2003 02:55:31 PM
"sharon" <slohre@telus.net> wrote in message
news:a49egvo4gssimdg52k73ojpodnmbrto2r1@4ax.com...

Don't argue with Americans about them killing their leaders. They believe

Warren Report.

It has something to do with their advertising industry. Package it just

right, appeal to

the studip and you can get them to buy anything.

Have you seen Bowling For Columbine? That says it all!

You take BFC seriously and accuse *us* of stupidity?! No fool like a
cross-posting fool, I guess.
SNIP
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User: "sharon"

Title: Re: Top 10 Reasons why the US sucks 06 Jul 2003 12:43:39 AM
The facts are the fact. The US has the greatest number of citizens per capita that are
imprisoned. You guys are the only industrialized nation that still has the death penalty.
I guess you like being the company of countries like.......... IRAQ, CUBA, AFGHANISTAN,
ALGERIA, ANTIGUA AND BARBUDA, BAHAMAS, BAHRAIN, BANGLADESH, BARBADOS, BELARUS, BELIZE,
BENIN, BOTSWANA, BURUNDI, CAMEROON, CHAD, CHINA, COMOROS, CONGO (Democratic Republic),
DOMINICA, EGYPT, EQUATORIAL GUINEA, ERITREA, ETHIOPIA, GABON, GHANA, GUATEMALA, GUINEA,
GUYANA, INDIA, INDONESIA, IRAN, JAMAICA, JAPAN, JORDAN, KAZAKSTAN, KENYA, KOREA (North),
KOREA (South), KUWAIT, KYRGYZSTAN, LAOS, LEBANON, LESOTHO, LIBERIA, LIBYA, MALAWI,
MALAYSIA, MAURITANIA, MONGOLIA, MOROCCO, MYANMAR, NIGERIA, OMAN, PAKISTAN, PALESTINIAN
AUTHORITY, PHILIPPINES, QATAR, RWANDA, SAINT CHRISTOPHER & NEVIS, SAINT LUCIA, SAINT
VINCENT & GRENADINES, SAUDI ARABIA, SIERRA LEONE, SINGAPORE, SOMALIA, SUDAN, SWAZILAND,
SYRIA, TAIWAN, TAJIKISTAN, TANZANIA, THAILAND, TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO, TUNISIA, UGANDA,
UNITED ARAB EMIRATES, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, UZBEKISTAN, VIET NAM, YEMEN, ZAMBIA, and
ZIMBABWE.
And if this isn't bad enough, your homicide rate with firearms is the highest in the
industrialized world. What the hell is wrong with you people?
On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 20:13:33 GMT, Omphalos <omphalos@xmsg.com> wrote:

On Sat 05 Jul 2003 03:34:19p, sharon <slohre@telus.net> wrote in
news:a49egvo4gssimdg52k73ojpodnmbrto2r1@4ax.com:

Don't argue with Americans about them killing their leaders.


I am an American.

They believe Warren Report. It has something to do with their
advertising industry. Package it just right, appeal to the studip
and you can get them to buy anything.

Have you seen Bowling For Columbine? That says it all!


Bowling for Columbine was written by a Hollywood fucktard. You know
what they do in Hollywood? Pretend to be people they are not.

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User: "jeffhoser"

Title: Re: Top 10 Reasons why the US sucks 06 Jul 2003 09:48:42 PM

your homicide rate with firearms is the highest in the industrialized

world.
Well, for one thing, we're one of the few nations with the wealth to permit
ready access to firearms, thus making them more convenient that, say, a
machete. But, since most of the alleged "homicides" are criminals knocking
one another off, who really cares ? By even the most conservative measures,
private guns PREVENT more crimes than they abet by several orders of
magnitude. Elsewhere in the world, the unarmed are labled "VICTIM".

What the hell is wrong with you people?

Actually, nothing. Right now we're experiencing a period of
"readjustment" due to extremely high levels of immigration upsetting the
established social order. Like all previous "waves" it is accompanied by
some unrest and crime. If we weren't such an attractive place, perhaps they
would stay away. Or we could seal our borders to all but those with extreme
wealth or critical technical skills....even better ! JH
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User: "Allan Lindsay-ONeal"

Title: Re: Top 10 Reasons why the US sucks 06 Jul 2003 02:54:13 AM
HEY SHARON! WHO GIVES A ***** WHAT YOU THINK?
"sharon" <slohre@telus.net> wrote in message
news:mcdfgvsoj7b8squ9j861vp1b07hdu4t81o@4ax.com...> ALGERIA, ANTIGUA AND
BARBUDA, BAHAMAS, BAHRAIN, BANGLADESH, BARBADOS, BELARUS, BELIZE,

BENIN, BOTSWANA, BURUNDI, CAMEROON, CHAD, CHINA, COMOROS, CONGO

(Democratic Republic),

DOMINICA, EGYPT, EQUATORIAL GUINEA, ERITREA, ETHIOPIA, GABON, GHANA,

GUATEMALA, GUINEA,

GUYANA, INDIA, INDONESIA, IRAN, JAMAICA, JAPAN, JORDAN, KAZAKSTAN, KENYA,

KOREA (North),

KOREA (South), KUWAIT, KYRGYZSTAN, LAOS, LEBANON, LESOTHO, LIBERIA, LIBYA,

MALAWI,

MALAYSIA, MAURITANIA, MONGOLIA, MOROCCO, MYANMAR, NIGERIA, OMAN, PAKISTAN,

PALESTINIAN

AUTHORITY, PHILIPPINES, QATAR, RWANDA, SAINT CHRISTOPHER & NEVIS, SAINT

LUCIA, SAINT

VINCENT & GRENADINES, SAUDI ARABIA, SIERRA LEONE, SINGAPORE, SOMALIA,

SUDAN, SWAZILAND,

SYRIA, TAIWAN, TAJIKISTAN, TANZANIA, THAILAND, TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO,

TUNISIA, UGANDA,

UNITED ARAB EMIRATES, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, UZBEKISTAN, VIET NAM,

YEMEN, ZAMBIA, and

ZIMBABWE.

.

User: "Omphalos"

Title: Re: Top 10 Reasons why the US sucks 06 Jul 2003 08:43:25 AM
On Sun 06 Jul 2003 01:43:39a, sharon <slohre@telus.net> wrote in
news:mcdfgvsoj7b8squ9j861vp1b07hdu4t81o@4ax.com:

The facts are the fact. The US has the greatest number of citizens
per capita that are imprisoned. You guys are the only
industrialized nation that still has the death penalty.

Japan still has it. Their crime rate is among the lowest in the world.
We just don't want to be like socialist limp noodle Europe. The same
Europe who would rather whine about problems than stand up for what it
believes in.

I guess you like being the company of countries like..........

So I guess if some third world country does something, it must be
wrong.

And if this isn't bad enough, your homicide rate with firearms is
the highest in the industrialized world. What the hell is wrong
with you people?

Studies show that areas where gun ownership is high, crime has
dropped.
--
__________
==\ /================================
===\ /==You know how dumb the average==
====\ /===guy is? Well half of everyone==
=====\ /======is even dumber than that=====
======\/====================================
http://31337.pl
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User: "sharon"

Title: Re: Top 10 Reasons why the US sucks 06 Jul 2003 11:15:51 AM
On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 13:43:25 GMT, Omphalos <omphalos@xmsg.com> wrote:

On Sun 06 Jul 2003 01:43:39a, sharon <slohre@telus.net> wrote in
news:mcdfgvsoj7b8squ9j861vp1b07hdu4t81o@4ax.com:

The facts are the fact. The US has the greatest number of citizens
per capita that are imprisoned. You guys are the only
industrialized nation that still has the death penalty.


Japan still has it. Their crime rate is among the lowest in the world.
We just don't want to be like socialist limp noodle Europe. The same
Europe who would rather whine about problems than stand up for what it
believes in.

I stand correct, however, I assert that my point still stands.


I guess you like being the company of countries like..........


So I guess if some third world country does something, it must be
wrong.

I guess you have a point since these are the only countries that the US invades.


And if this isn't bad enough, your homicide rate with firearms is
the highest in the industrialized world. What the hell is wrong
with you people?


Studies show that areas where gun ownership is high, crime has
dropped.

When national figures are compared by country this is not true. I think you can't see the
wood for the trees.
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User: "Chris Fleitman"

Title: Re: Top 10 Reasons why the US sucks 06 Jul 2003 05:45:06 AM
sharon wrote:

The facts are the fact. The US has the greatest number of citizens per capita that are
imprisoned. You guys are the only industrialized nation that still has the death penalty.
I guess you like being the company of countries like.......... IRAQ, CUBA, AFGHANISTAN,
ALGERIA, ANTIGUA AND BARBUDA, BAHAMAS, BAHRAIN, BANGLADESH, BARBADOS, BELARUS, BELIZE,
BENIN, BOTSWANA, BURUNDI, CAMEROON, CHAD, CHINA, COMOROS, CONGO (Democratic Republic),
DOMINICA, EGYPT, EQUATORIAL GUINEA, ERITREA, ETHIOPIA, GABON, GHANA, GUATEMALA, GUINEA,
GUYANA, INDIA, INDONESIA, IRAN, JAMAICA, JAPAN, JORDAN, KAZAKSTAN, KENYA, KOREA (North),
KOREA (South), KUWAIT, KYRGYZSTAN, LAOS, LEBANON, LESOTHO, LIBERIA, LIBYA, MALAWI,
MALAYSIA, MAURITANIA, MONGOLIA, MOROCCO, MYANMAR, NIGERIA, OMAN, PAKISTAN, PALESTINIAN
AUTHORITY, PHILIPPINES, QATAR, RWANDA, SAINT CHRISTOPHER & NEVIS, SAINT LUCIA, SAINT
VINCENT & GRENADINES, SAUDI ARABIA, SIERRA LEONE, SINGAPORE, SOMALIA, SUDAN, SWAZILAND,
SYRIA, TAIWAN, TAJIKISTAN, TANZANIA, THAILAND, TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO, TUNISIA, UGANDA,
UNITED ARAB EMIRATES, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, UZBEKISTAN, VIET NAM, YEMEN, ZAMBIA, and
ZIMBABWE.

And if this isn't bad enough, your homicide rate with firearms is the highest in the
industrialized world.
What the hell is wrong with you people?

We're not killing them fast enough, I guess!
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creation of my family - I have lived way beyond my dreams - and all
because of America," - Arnold Schwarzenegger.
.
User: "sharon"

Title: Re: Top 10 Reasons why the US sucks 06 Jul 2003 11:08:38 AM
Hey "mad amoeba" <b@i.t> Chris's snide comment below could be a clue to why the
Americans have this problem with killing each other.
On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 10:45:06 GMT, Chris Fleitman <chrisfleitman@netscape.net> wrote:

And if this isn't bad enough, your homicide rate with firearms is the highest in the
industrialized world.



What the hell is wrong with you people?


We're not killing them fast enough, I guess!

.
User: "Chris Fleitman"

Title: Re: Top 10 Reasons why the US sucks 06 Jul 2003 11:29:00 AM
sharon wrote:

Hey "mad amoeba" <b@i.t> Chris's snide comment below could be a clue to why the
Americans have this problem with killing each other.

Who said it was a problem? If we have the highest kill rate, as you
suggest, then it seems to me that we're pretty good at doing it. No
problem there. Don't worry, we'll get to you.

On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 10:45:06 GMT, Chris Fleitman <chrisfleitman@netscape.net> wrote:



And if this isn't bad enough, your homicide rate with firearms is the highest in the
industrialized world.



What the hell is wrong with you people?


We're not killing them fast enough, I guess!



--
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"I am sitting here today with 'Terminator 3' about to come out, with a
great movie career and a great sports career in bodybuilding, the
creation of my family - I have lived way beyond my dreams - and all
because of America," - Arnold Schwarzenegger.
.
User: "Snubis"

Title: Re: Top 10 Reasons why the US sucks 06 Jul 2003 02:57:22 PM
On Sun 06 Jul 2003 01:23:07p, sharon <slohre@telus.net> wrote in
news:ukmggvoi2lcmbiqvlnu35hs3fqe6v3smrn@4ax.com:

I can see why you don't consider the high kill rate a problem cause
you're obviously still alive, but you think the problem might be
that you Americans are excessively self-involved? I mean waiting
until the last shoe drops all the time is not indicative of having
foresight. Then at the 11th hour you guys go nuts and over
compensate for your apathy.

Quit top-posting ya damn newbie.
.

User: "Omphalos"

Title: Re: Top 10 Reasons why the US sucks 06 Jul 2003 03:12:29 PM
On Sun 06 Jul 2003 01:23:07p, sharon <slohre@telus.net> wrote in
news:ukmggvoi2lcmbiqvlnu35hs3fqe6v3smrn@4ax.com:

I can see why you don't consider the high kill rate a problem cause
you're obviously still alive, but you think the problem might be
that you Americans are excessively self-involved? I mean waiting
until the last shoe drops all the time is not indicative of having
foresight. Then at the 11th hour you guys go nuts and over
compensate for your apathy.

You watch too many American movies.
.

User: "Chris Fleitman"

Title: Re: Top 10 Reasons why the US sucks 06 Jul 2003 02:33:40 PM
sharon wrote:

I can see why you don't consider the high kill rate a problem cause you're obviously still
alive,

Well, I will agree that dead people might see it as a problem.

but you think the problem might be that you Americans are excessively
self-involved? I mean waiting until the last shoe drops all the time is not indicative of
having foresight. Then at the 11th hour you guys go nuts and over compensate for your
apathy.

What's that in English?

On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 16:29:00 GMT, Chris Fleitman <chrisfleitman@netscape.net> wrote:




sharon wrote:

Hey "mad amoeba" <b@i.t> Chris's snide comment below could be a clue to why the
Americans have this problem with killing each other.


Who said it was a problem? If we have the highest kill rate, as you
suggest, then it seems to me that we're pretty good at doing it. No
problem there. Don't worry, we'll get to you.

On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 10:45:06 GMT, Chris Fleitman <chrisfleitman@netscape.net> wrote:



And if this isn't bad enough, your homicide rate with firearms is the highest in the
industrialized world.



What the hell is wrong with you people?


We're not killing them fast enough, I guess!





--
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great movie career and a great sports career in bodybuilding, the
creation of my family - I have lived way beyond my dreams - and all
because of America," - Arnold Schwarzenegger.
.




User: "mad amoeba"

Title: Re: Top 10 Reasons why the US sucks 06 Jul 2003 01:22:01 AM
while discussing firearms i hope you realize that you are on the very thin
ice. Hitler outlawed all the gun ownership and during few years that he was
in power tenth of millions of people were killed. Same is true of Stalin and
Mao
and both of their nations outlawed gun ownership. The bottomline is that yes
there is more low level crime when guns are easily accessible. However in
the long run when they aren't the trend is for govt to opress its people as
the have nothign to deffend themselves with. Then the human toll becomes
even larger.
"sharon" <slohre@telus.net> wrote in message
news:mcdfgvsoj7b8squ9j861vp1b07hdu4t81o@4ax.com...

The facts are the fact. The US has the greatest number of citizens per

capita that are

imprisoned. You guys are the only industrialized nation that still has

the death penalty.

I guess you like being the company of countries like.......... IRAQ, CUBA,

AFGHANISTAN,

ALGERIA, ANTIGUA AND BARBUDA, BAHAMAS, BAHRAIN, BANGLADESH, BARBADOS,

BELARUS, BELIZE,

BENIN, BOTSWANA, BURUNDI, CAMEROON, CHAD, CHINA, COMOROS, CONGO

(Democratic Republic),

DOMINICA, EGYPT, EQUATORIAL GUINEA, ERITREA, ETHIOPIA, GABON, GHANA,

GUATEMALA, GUINEA,

GUYANA, INDIA, INDONESIA, IRAN, JAMAICA, JAPAN, JORDAN, KAZAKSTAN, KENYA,

KOREA (North),

KOREA (South), KUWAIT, KYRGYZSTAN, LAOS, LEBANON, LESOTHO, LIBERIA, LIBYA,

MALAWI,

MALAYSIA, MAURITANIA, MONGOLIA, MOROCCO, MYANMAR, NIGERIA, OMAN, PAKISTAN,

PALESTINIAN

AUTHORITY, PHILIPPINES, QATAR, RWANDA, SAINT CHRISTOPHER & NEVIS, SAINT

LUCIA, SAINT

VINCENT & GRENADINES, SAUDI ARABIA, SIERRA LEONE, SINGAPORE, SOMALIA,

SUDAN, SWAZILAND,

SYRIA, TAIWAN, TAJIKISTAN, TANZANIA, THAILAND, TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO,

TUNISIA, UGANDA,

UNITED ARAB EMIRATES, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, UZBEKISTAN, VIET NAM,

YEMEN, ZAMBIA, and

ZIMBABWE.

And if this isn't bad enough, your homicide rate with firearms is the

highest in the

industrialized world. What the hell is wrong with you people?







On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 20:13:33 GMT, Omphalos <omphalos@xmsg.com> wrote:

On Sat 05 Jul 2003 03:34:19p, sharon <slohre@telus.net> wrote in
news:a49egvo4gssimdg52k73ojpodnmbrto2r1@4ax.com:

Don't argue with Americans about them killing their leaders.


I am an American.

They believe Warren Report. It has something to do with their
advertising industry. Package it just right, appeal to the studip
and you can get them to buy anything.

Have you seen Bowling For Columbine? That says it all!


Bowling for Columbine was written by a Hollywood fucktard. You know
what they do in Hollywood? Pretend to be people they are not.


.
User: "sharon"

Title: Re: Top 10 Reasons why the US sucks 06 Jul 2003 03:06:43 AM
I'm not suggested outlawing guns. In fact Canada, on a per capita basis, has as many gun
as the US, but we their rate fatal shootings is almost 700% higher.
Besides I rasied other issues that are unique to the US.
On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 06:22:01 GMT, "mad amoeba" <b@i.t> wrote:

while discussing firearms i hope you realize that you are on the very thin
ice. Hitler outlawed all the gun ownership and during few years that he was
in power tenth of millions of people were killed. Same is true of Stalin and
Mao
and both of their nations outlawed gun ownership. The bottomline is that yes
there is more low level crime when guns are easily accessible. However in
the long run when they aren't the trend is for govt to opress its people as
the have nothign to deffend themselves with. Then the human toll becomes
even larger.

"sharon" <slohre@telus.net> wrote in message
news:mcdfgvsoj7b8squ9j861vp1b07hdu4t81o@4ax.com...

The facts are the fact. The US has the greatest number of citizens per

capita that are

imprisoned. You guys are the only industrialized nation that still has

the death penalty.

I guess you like being the company of countries like.......... IRAQ, CUBA,

AFGHANISTAN,

ALGERIA, ANTIGUA AND BARBUDA, BAHAMAS, BAHRAIN, BANGLADESH, BARBADOS,

BELARUS, BELIZE,

BENIN, BOTSWANA, BURUNDI, CAMEROON, CHAD, CHINA, COMOROS, CONGO

(Democratic Republic),

DOMINICA, EGYPT, EQUATORIAL GUINEA, ERITREA, ETHIOPIA, GABON, GHANA,

GUATEMALA, GUINEA,

GUYANA, INDIA, INDONESIA, IRAN, JAMAICA, JAPAN, JORDAN, KAZAKSTAN, KENYA,

KOREA (North),

KOREA (South), KUWAIT, KYRGYZSTAN, LAOS, LEBANON, LESOTHO, LIBERIA, LIBYA,

MALAWI,

MALAYSIA, MAURITANIA, MONGOLIA, MOROCCO, MYANMAR, NIGERIA, OMAN, PAKISTAN,

PALESTINIAN

AUTHORITY, PHILIPPINES, QATAR, RWANDA, SAINT CHRISTOPHER & NEVIS, SAINT

LUCIA, SAINT

VINCENT & GRENADINES, SAUDI ARABIA, SIERRA LEONE, SINGAPORE, SOMALIA,

SUDAN, SWAZILAND,

SYRIA, TAIWAN, TAJIKISTAN, TANZANIA, THAILAND, TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO,

TUNISIA, UGANDA,

UNITED ARAB EMIRATES, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, UZBEKISTAN, VIET NAM,

YEMEN, ZAMBIA, and

ZIMBABWE.

And if this isn't bad enough, your homicide rate with firearms is the

highest in the

industrialized world. What the hell is wrong with you people?







On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 20:13:33 GMT, Omphalos <omphalos@xmsg.com> wrote:

On Sat 05 Jul 2003 03:34:19p, sharon <slohre@telus.net> wrote in
news:a49egvo4gssimdg52k73ojpodnmbrto2r1@4ax.com:

Don't argue with Americans about them killing their leaders.


I am an American.

They believe Warren Report. It has something to do with their
advertising industry. Package it just right, appeal to the studip
and you can get them to buy anything.

Have you seen Bowling For Columbine? That says it all!


Bowling for Columbine was written by a Hollywood fucktard. You know
what they do in Hollywood? Pretend to be people they are not.



.
User: "mad amoeba"

Title: Re: Top 10 Reasons why the US sucks 06 Jul 2003 04:32:24 AM
so if canada has as many guns as USA but has less fatal shootings what is
your
analysis as to the cause of this difference. You surely are not suggesting
that
people in US are somehow genetically different from Canadiens.
"sharon" <slohre@telus.net> wrote in message
news:o6mfgv4psj6acnb6o8o8sa8eo9m9o22fbf@4ax.com...

I'm not suggested outlawing guns. In fact Canada, on a per capita basis,

has as many gun

as the US, but we their rate fatal shootings is almost 700% higher.

Besides I rasied other issues that are unique to the US.

On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 06:22:01 GMT, "mad amoeba" <b@i.t> wrote:

while discussing firearms i hope you realize that you are on the very

thin

ice. Hitler outlawed all the gun ownership and during few years that

he was

in power tenth of millions of people were killed. Same is true of

Stalin and

Mao
and both of their nations outlawed gun ownership. The bottomline is

that yes

there is more low level crime when guns are easily accessible. However

in

the long run when they aren't the trend is for govt to opress its

people as

the have nothign to deffend themselves with. Then the human toll

becomes

even larger.

"sharon" <slohre@telus.net> wrote in message
news:mcdfgvsoj7b8squ9j861vp1b07hdu4t81o@4ax.com...

The facts are the fact. The US has the greatest number of citizens

per

capita that are

imprisoned. You guys are the only industrialized nation that still

has

the death penalty.

I guess you like being the company of countries like.......... IRAQ,

CUBA,

AFGHANISTAN,

ALGERIA, ANTIGUA AND BARBUDA, BAHAMAS, BAHRAIN, BANGLADESH,

BARBADOS,

BELARUS, BELIZE,

BENIN, BOTSWANA, BURUNDI, CAMEROON, CHAD, CHINA, COMOROS, CONGO

(Democratic Republic),

DOMINICA, EGYPT, EQUATORIAL GUINEA, ERITREA, ETHIOPIA, GABON, GHANA,

GUATEMALA, GUINEA,

GUYANA, INDIA, INDONESIA, IRAN, JAMAICA, JAPAN, JORDAN, KAZAKSTAN,

KENYA,

KOREA (North),

KOREA (South), KUWAIT, KYRGYZSTAN, LAOS, LEBANON, LESOTHO, LIBERIA,

LIBYA,

MALAWI,

MALAYSIA, MAURITANIA, MONGOLIA, MOROCCO, MYANMAR, NIGERIA, OMAN,

PAKISTAN,

PALESTINIAN

AUTHORITY, PHILIPPINES, QATAR, RWANDA, SAINT CHRISTOPHER & NEVIS,

SAINT

LUCIA, SAINT

VINCENT & GRENADINES, SAUDI ARABIA, SIERRA LEONE, SINGAPORE,

SOMALIA,

SUDAN, SWAZILAND,

SYRIA, TAIWAN, TAJIKISTAN, TANZANIA, THAILAND, TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO,

TUNISIA, UGANDA,

UNITED ARAB EMIRATES, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, UZBEKISTAN, VIET

NAM,

YEMEN, ZAMBIA, and

ZIMBABWE.

And if this isn't bad enough, your homicide rate with firearms is

the

highest in the

industrialized world. What the hell is wrong with you people?







On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 20:13:33 GMT, Omphalos <omphalos@xmsg.com>

wrote:


On Sat 05 Jul 2003 03:34:19p, sharon <slohre@telus.net> wrote in
news:a49egvo4gssimdg52k73ojpodnmbrto2r1@4ax.com:

Don't argue with Americans about them killing their leaders.


I am an American.

They believe Warren Report. It has something to do with their
advertising industry. Package it just right, appeal to the

studip

and you can get them to buy anything.

Have you seen Bowling For Columbine? That says it all!


Bowling for Columbine was written by a Hollywood fucktard. You

know

what they do in Hollywood? Pretend to be people they are not.




.
User: "sharon"

Title: Re: Top 10 Reasons why the US sucks 06 Jul 2003 11:04:53 AM
There is lots of theories, however, I don't know exactly what the causes are. Perhaps you
have some views on this issue.
What do you think about the fact that like Cuba, Iraq, Iran, North & South Korea, etc.
etc. the US still has the death penalty and is the only democracy that does? And, in
addition to having the death penalty, the US has the highest numbers of its citizens
behind bars.
With a justice system that has failed in so many cases the American Dream has been the
American Nightmare for many.
What say you?
On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 09:32:24 GMT, "mad amoeba" <b@i.t> wrote:

so if canada has as many guns as USA but has less fatal shootings what is
your
analysis as to the cause of this difference. You surely are not suggesting
that
people in US are somehow genetically different from Canadiens.
"sharon" <slohre@telus.net> wrote in message
news:o6mfgv4psj6acnb6o8o8sa8eo9m9o22fbf@4ax.com...

I'm not suggested outlawing guns. In fact Canada, on a per capita basis,

has as many gun

as the US, but we their rate fatal shootings is almost 700% higher.

Besides I rasied other issues that are unique to the US.

On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 06:22:01 GMT, "mad amoeba" <b@i.t> wrote:

while discussing firearms i hope you realize that you are on the very

thin

ice. Hitler outlawed all the gun ownership and during few years that

he was

in power tenth of millions of people were killed. Same is true of

Stalin and

Mao
and both of their nations outlawed gun ownership. The bottomline is

that yes

there is more low level crime when guns are easily accessible. However

in

the long run when they aren't the trend is for govt to opress its

people as

the have nothign to deffend themselves with. Then the human toll

becomes

even larger.

"sharon" <slohre@telus.net> wrote in message
news:mcdfgvsoj7b8squ9j861vp1b07hdu4t81o@4ax.com...

The facts are the fact. The US has the greatest number of citizens

per

capita that are

imprisoned. You guys are the only industrialized nation that still

has

the death penalty.

I guess you like being the company of countries like.......... IRAQ,

CUBA,

AFGHANISTAN,

ALGERIA, ANTIGUA AND BARBUDA, BAHAMAS, BAHRAIN, BANGLADESH,

BARBADOS,

BELARUS, BELIZE,

BENIN, BOTSWANA, BURUNDI, CAMEROON, CHAD, CHINA, COMOROS, CONGO

(Democratic Republic),

DOMINICA, EGYPT, EQUATORIAL GUINEA, ERITREA, ETHIOPIA, GABON, GHANA,

GUATEMALA, GUINEA,

GUYANA, INDIA, INDONESIA, IRAN, JAMAICA, JAPAN, JORDAN, KAZAKSTAN,

KENYA,

KOREA (North),

KOREA (South), KUWAIT, KYRGYZSTAN, LAOS, LEBANON, LESOTHO, LIBERIA,

LIBYA,

MALAWI,

MALAYSIA, MAURITANIA, MONGOLIA, MOROCCO, MYANMAR, NIGERIA, OMAN,

PAKISTAN,

PALESTINIAN

AUTHORITY, PHILIPPINES, QATAR, RWANDA, SAINT CHRISTOPHER & NEVIS,

SAINT

LUCIA, SAINT

VINCENT & GRENADINES, SAUDI ARABIA, SIERRA LEONE, SINGAPORE,

SOMALIA,

SUDAN, SWAZILAND,

SYRIA, TAIWAN, TAJIKISTAN, TANZANIA, THAILAND, TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO,

TUNISIA, UGANDA,

UNITED ARAB EMIRATES, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, UZBEKISTAN, VIET

NAM,

YEMEN, ZAMBIA, and

ZIMBABWE.

And if this isn't bad enough, your homicide rate with firearms is

the

highest in the

industrialized world. What the hell is wrong with you people?







On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 20:13:33 GMT, Omphalos <omphalos@xmsg.com>

wrote:


On Sat 05 Jul 2003 03:34:19p, sharon <slohre@telus.net> wrote in
news:a49egvo4gssimdg52k73ojpodnmbrto2r1@4ax.com:

Don't argue with Americans about them killing their leaders.


I am an American.

They believe Warren Report. It has something to do with their
advertising industry. Package it just right, appeal to the

studip

and you can get them to buy anything.

Have you seen Bowling For Columbine? That says it all!


Bowling for Columbine was written by a Hollywood fucktard. You

know

what they do in Hollywood? Pretend to be people they are not.





.
User: "Omphalos"

Title: Re: Top 10 Reasons why the US sucks 06 Jul 2003 03:11:26 PM
On Sun 06 Jul 2003 12:04:53p, sharon <slohre@telus.net> wrote in
news:3nhggvoceu5bving7d0gkn52dqs55e2i48@4ax.com:

There is lots of theories, however, I don't know exactly what the
causes are. Perhaps you have some views on this issue.

What do you think about the fact that like Cuba, Iraq, Iran, North &
South Korea, etc. etc. the US still has the death penalty

Please explain how this is an argument to get rid of the death
penalty. Cuba, Iraq, and Iran also have prisons. Should we get rid of
them because they have them? Hitler encouraged prayer in schools. Does
that mean that having prayer in schools will lead to another
holocaust? Your logic is pathetic.

and is the only democracy that does?

Wrong. Japan, among others, still has the death penalty and they have
few problems with violent crime.

And, in addition to having the
death penalty, the US has the highest numbers of its citizens behind
bars.

Oh really? I guess we'll just have to start randomly releasing
prisoners until we get the prison population to a desirable level.

With a justice system that has failed in so many cases the American
Dream has been the American Nightmare for many.

I think our justice system is working just fine thank you. Unless you
can prove that most of those people in prison have been imprisoned
unjustly.
.
User: "Omphalos"

Title: Re: Top 10 Reasons why the US sucks 06 Jul 2003 08:58:59 PM
On Sun 06 Jul 2003 05:43:14p, sharon <slohre@telus.net> wrote in
news:kl5hgvgv37o8jtmu71rn3kg3id2nv5mqvf@4ax.com:

On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 20:11:26 GMT, Omphalos <omphalos@xmsg.com>
wrote:

On Sun 06 Jul 2003 12:04:53p, sharon <slohre@telus.net> wrote in
news:3nhggvoceu5bving7d0gkn52dqs55e2i48@4ax.com:

There is lots of theories, however, I don't know exactly what
the causes are. Perhaps you have some views on this issue.

What do you think about the fact that like Cuba, Iraq, Iran,
North & South Korea, etc. etc. the US still has the death
penalty


Please explain how this is an argument to get rid of the death
penalty. Cuba, Iraq, and Iran also have prisons. Should we get
rid of them because they have them? Hitler encouraged prayer in
schools. Does that mean that having prayer in schools will lead
to another holocaust? Your logic is pathetic.

and is the only democracy that does?


Wrong. Japan, among others, still has the death penalty and they
have few problems with violent crime.

And, in addition to having the
death penalty, the US has the highest numbers of its citizens
behind bars.


Oh really? I guess we'll just have to start randomly releasing
prisoners until we get the prison population to a desirable
level.

With a justice system that has failed in so many cases the
American Dream has been the American Nightmare for many.


I think our justice system is working just fine thank you. Unless
you can prove that most of those people in prison have been
imprisoned unjustly.


Once again for your benefit here are the countries that have the
death penalty:

AFGHANISTAN, ALGERIA, ANTIGUA AND BARBUDA, BAHAMAS, BAHRAIN,
BANGLADESH, BARBADOS, BELARUS, BELIZE, BENIN, BOTSWANA, BURUNDI,
CAMEROON, CHAD, CHINA, COMOROS, CONGO (Democratic Republic), CUBA,
DOMINICA, EGYPT, EQUATORIAL GUINEA, ERITREA, ETHIOPIA, GABON, GHANA,
GUATEMALA, GUINEA, GUYANA, INDIA, INDONESIA, IRAN, IRAQ, JAMAICA,
JAPAN, JORDAN, KAZAKSTAN, KENYA, KOREA (North), KOREA (South),
KUWAIT, KYRGYZSTAN, LAOS, LEBANON, LESOTHO, LIBERIA, LIBYA, MALAWI,
MALAYSIA, MAURITANIA, MONGOLIA, MOROCCO, MYANMAR, NIGERIA, OMAN,
PAKISTAN, PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY, PHILIPPINES, QATAR, RWANDA, SAINT
CHRISTOPHER & NEVIS, SAINT LUCIA, SAINT VINCENT & GRENADINES, SAUDI
ARABIA, SIERRA LEONE, SINGAPORE, SOMALIA, SUDAN, SWAZILAND, SYRIA,
TAIWAN, TAJIKISTAN, TANZANIA, THAILAND, TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO,
TUNISIA, UGANDA, UNITED ARAB EMIRATES, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
UZBEKISTAN, VIET NAM, YEMEN, ZAMBIA, ZIMBABWE.

Now, you asked how is this significant to the arument for obolishing
the death penalty in the US. Well given that Americans, like you,
love to shout your mouth off about being the best country in the
world, the most free country in the world and the must JUSTICE
country in the world, you seem to have similar values as the
countries above. I don't consider a the US or any of the above
country to be very prolife. All the countries above including the
US have governments that have been empowered to take a human life in
response to the breaching of man made law. To say that the US is
the greatest country in the world leads me to question your
definition of great.

Is this clear enough for you, or are you going to continue asking
your dumb questions? I don't hear any argument out of you instead
you are one of the dumb asses taht like to pick a part others
points, but can't make any of your own.

Why are you camplaining about a country you don't even live in or
couldn't even begin to understand?
.

User: "Angkor"

Title: Re: Top 10 Reasons why the US sucks 07 Jul 2003 04:26:31 AM
On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 21:43:14 GMT, sharon <slohre@telus.net> wrote:

Once again for your benefit here are the countries that have the death penalty:

AFGHANISTAN, ALGERIA, ANTIGUA AND BARBUDA, BAHAMAS, BAHRAIN, BANGLADESH, BARBADOS,
BELARUS, BELIZE, BENIN, BOTSWANA, BURUNDI, CAMEROON, CHAD, CHINA, COMOROS, CONGO
(Democratic Republic), CUBA, DOMINICA, EGYPT, EQUATORIAL GUINEA, ERITREA, ETHIOPIA, GABON,
GHANA, GUATEMALA, GUINEA, GUYANA, INDIA, INDONESIA, IRAN, IRAQ, JAMAICA, JAPAN, JORDAN,
KAZAKSTAN, KENYA, KOREA (North), KOREA (South), KUWAIT, KYRGYZSTAN, LAOS, LEBANON,
LESOTHO, LIBERIA, LIBYA, MALAWI, MALAYSIA, MAURITANIA, MONGOLIA, MOROCCO, MYANMAR,
NIGERIA, OMAN, PAKISTAN, PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY, PHILIPPINES, QATAR, RWANDA, SAINT
CHRISTOPHER & NEVIS, SAINT LUCIA, SAINT VINCENT & GRENADINES, SAUDI ARABIA, SIERRA LEONE,
SINGAPORE, SOMALIA, SUDAN, SWAZILAND, SYRIA, TAIWAN, TAJIKISTAN, TANZANIA, THAILAND,
TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO, TUNISIA, UGANDA, UNITED ARAB EMIRATES, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
UZBEKISTAN, VIET NAM, YEMEN, ZAMBIA, ZIMBABWE.

All very third-world isn't it?
--
"Ken Ehrett was a sock"
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