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Topic: Science > Abortion
User: "Mr. Young"
Date: 06 Sep 2006 11:54:47 PM
Object: Vast Majority of Citizens Believe Illegals Threat to U.S.
The fact alone that the majority of citizens don't want them here is
justification enough to expell them en' mass. Of course, anything that is of
detriment to America becomes a cause for the ACLU to embrace so we shouldn't
expect 'relief' any time soon.
http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/18070.html
By Sher Zieve - Recent Susquehanna Polling and Research results found that
71% of Americans polled believe that illegal immigration poses a clear
threat to the US. The poll was commissioned by the Pittsburgh
Tribune-Review.
More than half (56%) of those polled said they are more aware of foreigners
today, than they were before 9/11/2001, and 31% said that they believe
illegal immigration's biggest threat is terrorism.
--
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Mr. J Yöung
youngopinions@aol.com
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User: "Hotel Charlie One"

Title: Re: Vast Majority of Citizens Believe Illegals Threat to U.S. 07 Sep 2006 06:22:11 AM
"Mr. Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in
news:F4KdnbcoeZLxO2LZnZ2dnUVZ_qqdnZ2d@giganews.com:

The fact alone that the majority of citizens don't want them here is
justification enough to expell them en' mass. Of course, anything
that is of detriment to America becomes a cause for the ACLU to
embrace so we shouldn't expect 'relief' any time soon.

Majority rule is a precious, sacred thing worth dying for. But like
other precious, sacred things, such as the home and the family it's not
only worth dying for; it can make you wish you were dead. Imagine if
all of life were determined by majority rule. Every meal would be a
pizza. Every pair of pants, even those in a Brooks Brothers suit, would
be stonewashed denim. Celebrity diet and exercise books would be the
only thing on the shelves at the library. And since women are a
majority of the population we'd all be married to Mel Gibson.

P.J. (Patrick Jake) O'Rourke "The Mystery of Government,"
--
The actions of the disgraceful Clinton and Bush administrations
make it possible for me to say without shame that I deeply regret
the day I put the uniform of my country. The freedoms that I was
willing to protect with my life are being lost. The America of
our founders is dead. All we are waiting for now is rigor mortis.
HotelCharlieOne
.
User: "Jafo"

Title: Re: Vast Majority of Citizens Believe Illegals Threat to U.S. 07 Sep 2006 07:58:13 AM
As viewed from alt.california, Hotel Charlie One wrote:

Imagine if all of life were determined by majority rule. Every
meal would be a pizza. Every pair of pants, even those in a
Brooks Brothers suit, would be stonewashed denim. Celebrity
diet and exercise books would be the only thing on the shelves
at the library. And since women are a majority of the population
we'd all be married to Mel Gibson.

P.J. (Patrick Jake) O'Rourke "The Mystery of Government,"

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for
lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote."
- Benjamin Franklin
--
Jafo
.
User: "Sanders Kaufman"

Title: Re: Vast Majority of Citizens Believe Illegals Threat to U.S. 07 Sep 2006 08:39:20 AM
Jafo wrote:


"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for
lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote."
- Benjamin Franklin

Way to take a quote out of context.
You almost make it sound like the founding fathers didn't like Democracy.
.
User: "robpar"

Title: Re: Vast Majority of Citizens Believe Illegals Threat to U.S. 07 Sep 2006 03:05:45 PM
On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 13:39:20 GMT, Sanders Kaufman
<bucky@kaufman.net> wrote:

Jafo wrote:


"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for
lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote."
- Benjamin Franklin


Way to take a quote out of context.
You almost make it sound like the founding fathers didn't like Democracy.

The founders were well aware that Democracy was a lousy
form of government.
That's why they founded a constitutional republican form
of government. To protect individuals from the tyranny of a
mob. The United States of America is not a democracy, or a
theocracy. It's a constitutional Republic.
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User: "Sanders Kaufman"

Title: Re: Vast Majority of Citizens Believe Illegals Threat to U.S. 07 Sep 2006 11:55:24 PM
robpar wrote:

The founders were well aware that Democracy was a lousy
form of government.

Riiiiiight.
.
User: "Hotel Charlie One"

Title: Re: Vast Majority of Citizens Believe Illegals Threat to U.S. 08 Sep 2006 03:14:06 AM
Sanders Kaufman <bucky@kaufman.net> wrote in news:0J6Mg.9347$yO7.5388
@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com:

robpar wrote:

The founders were well aware that Democracy was a lousy form of
government.


Riiiiiight.

Amazing, I don't think you're a troll leading us on. You really are
clueless.
--
The actions of the disgraceful Clinton and Bush administrations
make it possible for me to say without shame that I deeply regret
the day I put the uniform of my country. The freedoms that I was
willing to protect with my life are being lost. The America of
our founders is dead. All we are waiting for now is rigor mortis.
HotelCharlieOne
.



User: "Hotel Charlie One"

Title: Re: Vast Majority of Citizens Believe Illegals Threat to U.S. 07 Sep 2006 09:17:57 AM
Sanders Kaufman <bucky@kaufman.net> wrote in
news:ciVLg.8573$yO7.7875@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com:

Jafo wrote:


"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for
lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote." -
Benjamin Franklin


Way to take a quote out of context.
You almost make it sound like the founding fathers didn't like
Democracy.

They didn't want democracy for that very reason. They foresaw the
horrors of mob rule and set up a republic (limited democracy). They
then set up a constitution to further limit the powers of the republic
to prevent the subjugation of minorities (via speech control, religion
control, gun control, court control, etc). That you do not understand
this either means you are young and have not taken a class in civics
or you are an adult who just doesn't give a damn about the manner of
those who lead you. I hope you are former.
--
The actions of the disgraceful Clinton and Bush administrations
make it possible for me to say without shame that I deeply regret
the day I put the uniform of my country. The freedoms that I was
willing to protect with my life are being lost. The America of
our founders is dead. All we are waiting for now is rigor mortis.
HotelCharlieOne
.
User: "Sanders Kaufman"

Title: Re: Vast Majority of Citizens Believe Illegals Threat to U.S. 07 Sep 2006 10:18:53 AM
Hotel Charlie One wrote:

They didn't want democracy for that very reason. They foresaw the
horrors of mob rule and set up a republic (limited democracy).

They didn't want a democracy - so they set one up.
Way to contradict yourself, traitor.
.
User: "Jafo"

Title: Re: Vast Majority of Citizens Believe Illegals Threat to U.S. 07 Sep 2006 10:40:31 AM
And now, live from alt.california, Sanders Kaufman gives whole new
meaning to the word "moron":

Hotel Charlie One wrote:

They didn't want democracy for that very reason. They foresaw the
horrors of mob rule and set up a republic (limited democracy).

They didn't want a democracy - so they set one up.
Way to contradict yourself, traitor.

He said "republic", Sanders. You even quoted him.
Some people try to bury their stupidity, but you proudly flaunt yours
for the whole world to see.
--
Jafo
.

User: "Hotel Charlie One"

Title: Re: Vast Majority of Citizens Believe Illegals Threat to U.S. 07 Sep 2006 11:11:12 AM
Sanders Kaufman <bucky@kaufman.net> wrote in news:xLWLg.25525$gY6.10265
@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com:

Hotel Charlie One wrote:

They didn't want democracy for that very reason. They foresaw the
horrors of mob rule and set up a republic (limited democracy).


They didn't want a democracy - so they set one up.
Way to contradict yourself, traitor.

Twelve years of compulsory education strikes again.
--
The actions of the disgraceful Clinton and Bush administrations
make it possible for me to say without shame that I deeply regret
the day I put the uniform of my country. The freedoms that I was
willing to protect with my life are being lost. The America of
our founders is dead. All we are waiting for now is rigor mortis.
HotelCharlieOne
.

User: "Lucifer"

Title: Re: Vast Majority of Citizens Believe Illegals Threat to U.S. 07 Sep 2006 12:18:55 PM
Sanders Kaufman wrote:

Hotel Charlie One wrote:

They didn't want democracy for that very reason. They foresaw the
horrors of mob rule and set up a republic (limited democracy).


They didn't want a democracy - so they set one up.
Way to contradict yourself, traitor.

They set up a republic, with a constitution. Every successful democracy
has a check on mob rule, whther that is a number of houses of
parlieament, a president, a supreme court, or even a monarchy. There
needs to be a slower moving system to even out the wild political swing
(the supreme court is a good example of such a check)
.



User: "hc23hc"

Title: Re: Vast Majority of Citizens Believe Illegals Threat to U.S. 07 Sep 2006 10:18:12 AM
Sanders Kaufman wrote:

Jafo wrote:


"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for
lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote."
- Benjamin Franklin


Way to take a quote out of context.

Jafo lives by platitude, another word for neo-context. You have to
read between his lies, thus:
In Jafo's current End of Days 'election' scenario, the food chain has
been upset by NGOs. The world is now soiled by Depleted Uranium. Rabid
mutant wolves roam the land, outnumbering the lambs -- if not on paper,
then at least according to Diebold contrivance.
The Supreme Court is overpopulated by wolves in sheep's clothing.
Although they've already paid for it by credit card, the lambs' lunch
isn't coming. The immigrant gophers who used to serve it have been put
in concentration camps and their cooking ingredients siezed and
reallocated by chickenhawks.
The only thing Jafo the Judas Goat has left to eat is 'delicious'
irony. Yet he savors it, gloating in rapturous assumption that lambs
will seldom kill wolves, even when the wolves have it coming.
Then he chokes and dies. Suddenly, the world is a better place after
all.
..
..
..
.

User: "Douglas Berry"

Title: Re: Vast Majority of Citizens Believe Illegals Threat to U.S. 07 Sep 2006 09:26:03 PM
What's so funny about peace, love and Sanders Kaufman
<bucky@kaufman.net> posting the following on Thu, 07 Sep 2006 13:39:20
GMT iin alt.atheism?

Jafo wrote:


"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for
lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote."
- Benjamin Franklin


Way to take a quote out of context.
You almost make it sound like the founding fathers didn't like Democracy.

They didn't. Which is why they set up a Federal Republic. Until the
passage of the 17th Amendment (1913) the people didn't even vote for
Senators, they were appointed by state legislatures. The only direct
vote was for the local Congressman.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
.




User: "Reasoned Insanity"

Title: Re: Vast Majority of Citizens Believe Illegals Threat to U.S. 08 Sep 2006 03:27:58 PM
"Mr. Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:F4KdnbcoeZLxO2LZnZ2dnUVZ_qqdnZ2d@giganews.com...

The fact alone that the majority of citizens don't want them here is
justification enough to expell them en' mass.

No it isn't or Bush would be deported immediately. The fact that they are
illegal is enough reason to deport or shoot them on sight.
.
User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Vast Majority of Citizens Believe Illegals Threat to U.S. 09 Sep 2006 12:36:15 AM
Reasoned Insanity <mintclovers@@yahoo.com> wrote:

"Mr. Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message

The fact alone that the majority of citizens don't want them here is
justification enough to expell them en' mass.


No it isn't or Bush would be deported immediately. The fact that they are
illegal is enough reason to deport or shoot them on sight.

Much as the Nazis did to the Jews.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "Attila"

Title: Re: Vast Majority of Citizens Believe Illegals Threat to U.S. 09 Sep 2006 03:01:00 AM
On 09 Sep 2006 05:36:15 GMT,
(Ray Fischer) in
alt.abortion with message-id
<450252cf$0$34495$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> wrote:

Reasoned Insanity <mintclovers@@yahoo.com> wrote:

"Mr. Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message


The fact alone that the majority of citizens don't want them here is
justification enough to expell them en' mass.


No it isn't or Bush would be deported immediately. The fact that they are
illegal is enough reason to deport or shoot them on sight.


Much as the Nazis did to the Jews.

Another incorrect analogy. The Jews were legal residents. The
subject here is illegal residents.
--
Pro-Choice is Pro-Freedom
.
User: "Darrell Stec"

Title: Re: Vast Majority of Citizens Believe Illegals Threat to U.S. 10 Sep 2006 02:22:04 PM
After serious contemplation, on or about Saturday 09 September 2006 4:01
am Attila perhaps from <prochoice@here.now wrote:

On 09 Sep 2006 05:36:15 GMT,

(Ray Fischer) in
alt.abortion with message-id
<450252cf$0$34495$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> wrote:

Reasoned Insanity <mintclovers@@yahoo.com> wrote:

"Mr. Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message


The fact alone that the majority of citizens don't want them here
is justification enough to expell them en' mass.


No it isn't or Bush would be deported immediately. The fact that they
are illegal is enough reason to deport or shoot them on sight.


Much as the Nazis did to the Jews.


Another incorrect analogy. The Jews were legal residents. The
subject here is illegal residents.

And the difference between the two groups is a little ink on some paper.
Hitler could very well have made them illegal with a few penstrokes if
he felt it necessary.
Funny how people already here in America who came here from elsewhere,
and for many without any type of quota system, now want to prevent
others from coming. You could solve your problem easily by making
anyone who wants to come to America legally able to do so, just like we
are taught about those wonderful Pilgrims and their fairy tale
Thanksgiving story.

--
Pro-Choice is Pro-Freedom

--
Later,
Darrell Stec

Webpage Sorcery
http://webpagesorcery.com
We Put the Magic in Your Webpages
.
User: "Attila"

Title: Re: Vast Majority of Citizens Believe Illegals Threat to U.S. 10 Sep 2006 05:42:15 PM
On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 15:22:04 -0400, Darrell Stec
<darrell_stec@webpagesorcery.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<4mj6uvF6doukU1@individual.net> wrote:

After serious contemplation, on or about Saturday 09 September 2006 4:01
am Attila perhaps from <prochoice@here.now wrote:

On 09 Sep 2006 05:36:15 GMT,

(Ray Fischer) in
alt.abortion with message-id
<450252cf$0$34495$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> wrote:

Reasoned Insanity <mintclovers@@yahoo.com> wrote:

"Mr. Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message


The fact alone that the majority of citizens don't want them here
is justification enough to expell them en' mass.


No it isn't or Bush would be deported immediately. The fact that they
are illegal is enough reason to deport or shoot them on sight.


Much as the Nazis did to the Jews.


Another incorrect analogy. The Jews were legal residents. The
subject here is illegal residents.


And the difference between the two groups is a little ink on some paper.

The difference between most things is a little ink on some paper.

Hitler could very well have made them illegal with a few penstrokes if
he felt it necessary.

We are not talking about Nazi Germany. Or at least I am not.


Funny how people already here in America who came here from elsewhere,
and for many without any type of quota system, now want to prevent
others from coming.

The conditions then were different.

You could solve your problem easily by making
anyone who wants to come to America legally able to do so, just like we
are taught about those wonderful Pilgrims and their fairy tale
Thanksgiving story.

That is not done by any country. And will not be done here.



--
Pro-Choice is Pro-Freedom

--
Pro-Choice is Pro-Freedom
.
User: "Darrell Stec"

Title: Re: Vast Majority of Citizens Believe Illegals Threat to U.S. 10 Sep 2006 09:56:51 PM
After serious contemplation, on or about Sunday 10 September 2006 6:42
pm Attila perhaps from <prochoice@here.now wrote:

On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 15:22:04 -0400, Darrell Stec
<darrell_stec@webpagesorcery.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<4mj6uvF6doukU1@individual.net> wrote:

After serious contemplation, on or about Saturday 09 September 2006
4:01 am Attila perhaps from <prochoice@here.now wrote:

On 09 Sep 2006 05:36:15 GMT,

(Ray Fischer) in
alt.abortion with message-id
<450252cf$0$34495$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> wrote:

Reasoned Insanity <mintclovers@@yahoo.com> wrote:

"Mr. Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message


The fact alone that the majority of citizens don't want them here
is justification enough to expell them en' mass.


No it isn't or Bush would be deported immediately. The fact that
they are illegal is enough reason to deport or shoot them on sight.


Much as the Nazis did to the Jews.


Another incorrect analogy. The Jews were legal residents. The
subject here is illegal residents.


And the difference between the two groups is a little ink on some
paper.


The difference between most things is a little ink on some paper.


Hitler could very well have made them illegal with a few penstrokes if
he felt it necessary.


We are not talking about Nazi Germany. Or at least I am not.

You should. You and Hitler have much in common.


Funny how people already here in America who came here from elsewhere,
and for many without any type of quota system, now want to prevent
others from coming.


The conditions then were different.

Only very recently. And that doesn't alter the concept. Borders should
be open everywhere, most especially in the United States.

You could solve your problem easily by making
anyone who wants to come to America legally able to do so, just like
we are taught about those wonderful Pilgrims and their fairy tale
Thanksgiving story.


That is not done by any country. And will not be done here.

People are more selfish now. But I would hope your kind dies out and
the world, especially the US becomes more sane and more humane.



--
Pro-Choice is Pro-Freedom


--
Pro-Choice is Pro-Freedom

Why do you add that little sig when it is obvious you are neither pro
choice nor pro freedom. To limit those who would enter this country
belies you are a fraud.
--
Later,
Darrell Stec

Webpage Sorcery
http://webpagesorcery.com
We Put the Magic in Your Webpages
.
User: "Attila"

Title: Re: Vast Majority of Citizens Believe Illegals Threat to U.S. 10 Sep 2006 10:41:42 PM
On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 22:56:51 -0400, Darrell Stec
<darrell_stec@webpagesorcery.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<4mk1jlF6dicoU1@individual.net> wrote:


Hitler could very well have made them illegal with a few penstrokes if
he felt it necessary.


We are not talking about Nazi Germany. Or at least I am not.


You should. You and Hitler have much in common.

I disagree.



Funny how people already here in America who came here from elsewhere,
and for many without any type of quota system, now want to prevent
others from coming.


The conditions then were different.


Only very recently. And that doesn't alter the concept. Borders should
be open everywhere, most especially in the United States.

That will never happen.



You could solve your problem easily by making
anyone who wants to come to America legally able to do so, just like
we are taught about those wonderful Pilgrims and their fairy tale
Thanksgiving story.


That is not done by any country. And will not be done here.


People are more selfish now. But I would hope your kind dies out and
the world, especially the US becomes more sane and more humane.

You misspelled "insane".

--
Pro-Choice is Pro-Freedom


--
Pro-Choice is Pro-Freedom


Why do you add that little sig when it is obvious you are neither pro
choice nor pro freedom.

I am both.

To limit those who would enter this country
belies you are a fraud.

I am not concerned with the opinions of illegal immigrants.
--
Pro-Choice is Pro-Freedom
.

User: "Not PC"

Title: Re: Vast Majority of Citizens Believe Illegals Threat to U.S. 10 Sep 2006 11:34:57 PM
On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 22:56:51 -0400, Darrell Stec
<darrell_stec@webpagesorcery.com> wrote:

Only very recently. And that doesn't alter the concept. Borders should
be open everywhere, most especially in the United States.

The borders ARE open, dumbass. To LEGAL transit.


People are more selfish now. But I would hope your kind dies out and
the world, especially the US becomes more sane and more humane.

Awwwwwwwwwwwww. Are you a poor social worker still in skul? Think
that the world should be '"fair"? Well, social worker, stick it up
your *****. The U.S. doesn't have the responsibility to care for the
whole world. You want to help mexicans, go to mexico.
.
User: "Darrell Stec"

Title: Re: Vast Majority of Citizens Believe Illegals Threat to U.S. 12 Sep 2006 11:23:43 AM
After serious contemplation, on or about Monday 11 September 2006 12:34
am Not PC perhaps from
wrote:

On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 22:56:51 -0400, Darrell Stec
<darrell_stec@webpagesorcery.com> wrote:

Only very recently. And that doesn't alter the concept. Borders
should be open everywhere, most especially in the United States.


The borders ARE open, dumbass. To LEGAL transit.

I see reading comprehension isn't one of your strong points. As I
already wrote, transit should be LEGAL to everyone.


People are more selfish now. But I would hope your kind dies out and
the world, especially the US becomes more sane and more humane.


Awwwwwwwwwwwww. Are you a poor social worker still in skul?

Yes I am poor. Please send me money that I can buy even more investment
property. I am not a social worker, that would entail working for the
bureaucratic slim that screwed things up in the first place. I don't
know what 'skul' means as it is not in my dictionary. But we already
addressed your poor reading comprehension and spelling is often a
component of failure.

Think
that the world should be '"fair"? Well, social worker, stick it up
your *****.

I guess profanity is as good a substitute for your lack of reasoned
response as anything.

The U.S. doesn't have the responsibility to care for the
whole world.

Just as long as it cares for you and your family I suppose? Like I
wrote previously, it is always those whose ancestors immigrated who
want to keep others out.

You want to help mexicans, go to mexico.

Who said anything about helping Mexicans? I only stated that they
should be allowed into this country without restriction just as you and
your ancestors were. Immigrants tend to help themselves much better
than most navtive Avericans do. That goes for Mexicans too. People
like you, would be lost if some company didn't offer them a job.
Immigrants for the most part tend to be self starters.
Your strong reaction tends to remind me of those who feel entitled to
some government dole out, and are upset that they have to share the
pie. Are you sure you are not reflecting your own situation?
--
Later,
Darrell Stec

Webpage Sorcery
http://webpagesorcery.com
We Put the Magic in Your Webpages
.
User: "Sanders Kaufman"

Title: Re: Vast Majority of Citizens Believe Illegals Threat to U.S. 12 Sep 2006 04:45:01 PM
Darrell Stec wrote:

The borders ARE open, dumbass. To LEGAL transit.


I see reading comprehension isn't one of your strong points. As I
already wrote, transit should be LEGAL to everyone.

In legal parlance it's called, "The Right to Free Passage".

Your strong reaction tends to remind me of those who feel entitled to
some government dole out, and are upset that they have to share the
pie. Are you sure you are not reflecting your own situation?

Indeed!
The only time these drunken rednecks stop calling for MORE government
spending is when they are whining about having to pay their fair share
of taxes.
That, more tan *any* other reason is why Bush won his second term. Not
so much because the hicks support the War against Islam, but rather
because they *love* his tax promises.
That's also why Rick "Helmet-Hair" Perry is governor... because he
promised massive tax breaks. Of course - on a 100k house, the tax break
only turned out to be like $30 per year - but they'll take *any* tax
break they can get.
The Good News is that they get the government they pay for. They *got*
$30, and in return they had to give up an awful lot of healthcare.
Beyond that, you can now take your old motor oil and just dump it in
their yards; and you can smelt lead next to their few remaining
elementary schools, playgrounds and libraries - because environmental
protections evaporated, too.
.

User: "Attila"

Title: Re: Vast Majority of Citizens Believe Illegals Threat to U.S. 12 Sep 2006 03:29:51 PM
On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 12:23:43 -0400, Darrell Stec
<darrell_stec@webpagesorcery.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<4mo58iF70lckU1@individual.net> wrote:

After serious contemplation, on or about Monday 11 September 2006 12:34
am Not PC perhaps from

wrote:

On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 22:56:51 -0400, Darrell Stec
<darrell_stec@webpagesorcery.com> wrote:

Only very recently. And that doesn't alter the concept. Borders
should be open everywhere, most especially in the United States.


The borders ARE open, dumbass. To LEGAL transit.


I see reading comprehension isn't one of your strong points. As I
already wrote, transit should be LEGAL to everyone.

I is current legal to everyone who follows the law. Do you advocate
the elimination of all laws?



People are more selfish now. But I would hope your kind dies out and
the world, especially the US becomes more sane and more humane.


Awwwwwwwwwwwww. Are you a poor social worker still in skul?


Yes I am poor.

So?

Please send me money that I can buy even more investment
property. I am not a social worker, that would entail working for the
bureaucratic slim that screwed things up in the first place. I don't
know what 'skul' means as it is not in my dictionary. But we already
addressed your poor reading comprehension and spelling is often a
component of failure.

Or not.


Think
that the world should be '"fair"? Well, social worker, stick it up
your *****.



I guess profanity is as good a substitute for your lack of reasoned
response as anything.

The U.S. doesn't have the responsibility to care for the
whole world.


Just as long as it cares for you and your family I suppose? Like I
wrote previously, it is always those whose ancestors immigrated who
want to keep others out.

Since everyone's ancestors migrated from somewhere that is a rather
broad statement.


You want to help mexicans, go to mexico.


Who said anything about helping Mexicans? I only stated that they
should be allowed into this country without restriction just as you and
your ancestors were.

Wrong. There have always been immigration laws and this is not the
eighteenth century.

Immigrants tend to help themselves much better
than most navtive Avericans do. That goes for Mexicans too. People
like you, would be lost if some company didn't offer them a job.
Immigrants for the most part tend to be self starters.

Legal immigrants.


Your strong reaction tends to remind me of those who feel entitled to
some government dole out, and are upset that they have to share the
pie. Are you sure you are not reflecting your own situation?

Nonsense. How does opposition to illegal immigration mean being on
some kind of government dole? I oppose it and the only government
payment I receive is SS, and I was required by law to participate.
--
Pro-Choice is Pro-Freedom
.


User: "robpar"

Title: Re: Vast Majority of Citizens Believe Illegals Threat to U.S. 11 Sep 2006 11:51:15 AM
On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 04:34:57 GMT, Not PC <fspn@gnbc.com>
wrote:

On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 22:56:51 -0400, Darrell Stec
<darrell_stec@webpagesorcery.com> wrote:

Only very recently. And that doesn't alter the concept. Borders should
be open everywhere, most especially in the United States.


The borders ARE open, dumbass. To LEGAL transit.


People are more selfish now. But I would hope your kind dies out and
the world, especially the US becomes more sane and more humane.


Awwwwwwwwwwwww. Are you a poor social worker still in skul? Think
that the world should be '"fair"? Well, social worker, stick it up
your *****. The U.S. doesn't have the responsibility to care for the
whole world. You want to help mexicans, go to mexico.

Actually I want to help American's even dumb ***** holes like
you. And free travel, free trade makes good neighbors, good
neighbors makes for good neighborhoods. I want to remain
good friends with my Mexican neighbors. Most Mexicans are
good decent people, and good workers. Treat Mexico and
Canada as if they were part of the U.S. They are both
American countries.
.
User: "Jafo"

Title: Re: Vast Majority of Citizens Believe Illegals Threat to U.S. 11 Sep 2006 06:55:57 PM
As viewed from alt.california, robpar wrote:

Treat Mexico and Canada as if they were part of the U.S.
They are both American countries.

Don't let them hear you say that.
--
Jafo
.

User: "Not PC"

Title: Re: Vast Majority of Citizens Believe Illegals Threat to U.S. 11 Sep 2006 12:24:01 PM
On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 11:51:15 -0500, robpar <robpar@netportusa.com>
wrote:

People are more selfish now. But I would hope your kind dies out and
the world, especially the US becomes more sane and more humane.


Awwwwwwwwwwwww. Are you a poor social worker still in skul? Think
that the world should be '"fair"? Well, social worker, stick it up
your *****. The U.S. doesn't have the responsibility to care for the
whole world. You want to help mexicans, go to mexico.


Actually I want to help American's even dumb ***** holes like
you. And free travel, free trade makes good neighbors, good
neighbors makes for good neighborhoods. I want to remain
good friends with my Mexican neighbors. Most Mexicans are
good decent people, and good workers. Treat Mexico and
Canada as if they were part of the U.S. They are both
American countries.

Well ain't that sweet. Tell you what. I'd be glad to let mexicans
solve their problems in their own country and canucks can solve
problems in their own country. So we make it much harder to cross the
border ILLEGALLY. We can't afford to pay for all the mexicans that
want to flee the corrupt mess Mexico has become. And if the canucks
want to come down here to get decent health care , more power to em.
.

User: "Attila"

Title: Re: Vast Majority of Citizens Believe Illegals Threat to U.S. 11 Sep 2006 12:55:46 PM
On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 11:51:15 -0500, robpar <robpar@netportusa.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<0i4bg2tasa75tjd0bu0j5ukm995oelcgpj@4ax.com> wrote:

On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 04:34:57 GMT, Not PC <fspn@gnbc.com>
wrote:

On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 22:56:51 -0400, Darrell Stec
<darrell_stec@webpagesorcery.com> wrote:

Only very recently. And that doesn't alter the concept. Borders should
be open everywhere, most especially in the United States.


The borders ARE open, dumbass. To LEGAL transit.


People are more selfish now. But I would hope your kind dies out and
the world, especially the US becomes more sane and more humane.


Awwwwwwwwwwwww. Are you a poor social worker still in skul? Think
that the world should be '"fair"? Well, social worker, stick it up
your *****. The U.S. doesn't have the responsibility to care for the
whole world. You want to help mexicans, go to mexico.


Actually I want to help American's even dumb ***** holes like
you. And free travel, free trade makes good neighbors, good
neighbors makes for good neighborhoods. I want to remain
good friends with my Mexican neighbors. Most Mexicans are
good decent people, and good workers. Treat Mexico and
Canada as if they were part of the U.S. They are both
American countries.

Both would violently disagree.
They are not part of the US and should not be so treated.
--
Pro-Choice is Pro-Freedom
.






User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Vast Majority of Citizens Believe Illegals Threat to U.S. 09 Sep 2006 01:59:14 PM
Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:

rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) in

Reasoned Insanity <mintclovers@@yahoo.com> wrote:

"Mr. Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message

The fact alone that the majority of citizens don't want them here is
justification enough to expell them en' mass.


No it isn't or Bush would be deported immediately. The fact that they are
illegal is enough reason to deport or shoot them on sight.


Much as the Nazis did to the Jews.


Another incorrect analogy. The Jews were legal residents.

Not according to the Nazis.

Another incorrect analogy. The Jews were legal residents. The
subject here is illegal residents.

There is always some "good reason" for killing and abusing people,
isn't there? The Nazis wanted to improve humanity. You want to
improve the US.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "Attila"

Title: Re: Vast Majority of Citizens Believe Illegals Threat to U.S. 10 Sep 2006 11:58:19 AM
On 09 Sep 2006 18:59:14 GMT,
(Ray Fischer) in
alt.abortion with message-id
<45030f02$0$34490$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> wrote:

Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:

(Ray Fischer) in

Reasoned Insanity <mintclovers@@yahoo.com> wrote:

"Mr. Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message


The fact alone that the majority of citizens don't want them here is
justification enough to expell them en' mass.


No it isn't or Bush would be deported immediately. The fact that they are
illegal is enough reason to deport or shoot them on sight.


Much as the Nazis did to the Jews.


Another incorrect analogy. The Jews were legal residents.


Not according to the Nazis.

Wrong, as usual.


Another incorrect analogy. The Jews were legal residents. The
subject here is illegal residents.


There is always some "good reason" for killing and abusing people,
isn't there? The Nazis wanted to improve humanity.

Which has nothing to do with illegal immigration.

You want to
improve the US.

Yes, I do.
--
Pro-Choice is Pro-Freedom
.






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