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"J Young" |
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07 Aug 2005 01:27:54 PM |
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Vatican Prefers Chastity to Condoms |
Whatever your personal feelings towards the RCC, no one can argue;
Chastity is the only fool-proof method of prevention.
http://www.aegis.com/news/ap/2002/AP021104.html
Vatican Prefers Chastity to Condoms
VATICAN CITY - The Vatican repeated its opposition to using condoms as
a way to fight AIDS, saying Wednesday that chastity was the best way to
prevent the spread of the deadly virus.
Monsignor Javier Lozano Barragan, president of the Pontifical Council
for Health Workers, acknowledged that to some, the Vatican position may
sound "ridiculous in the society in which we live."
But he said there was only one way to prevent AIDS and the HIV virus
from spreading. "We say that prevention ... is called chastity."
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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07 Aug 2005 08:28:39 PM |
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Which is why many people prefer other religions to the Vatican...
Paul
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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07 Aug 2005 03:26:44 PM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1123439274.385712.158610@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Whatever your personal feelings towards the RCC, no one can argue;
Chastity is the only fool-proof method of prevention.
Except on a realistic plane of existence, it is a failed phylosophy.
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| User: "bam" |
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07 Aug 2005 04:57:37 PM |
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"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL2@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1123439274.385712.158610@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Whatever your personal feelings towards the RCC, no one can argue;
Chastity is the only fool-proof method of prevention.
Except on a realistic plane of existence, it is a failed phylosophy.
A 2,000 year old religion with over a billion living members united under a
single head. I wonder if you can name a few other such failures.
BAM
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| User: "maf1029 ©2001-2008" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican Prefers Chastity to Condoms |
07 Aug 2005 08:54:58 PM |
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On Sun, 7 Aug 2005 17:57:37 -0400, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
A 2,000 year old religion with over a billion living members united under a
single head. I wonder if you can name a few other such failures.
And sadly, you're not one of them.
Schedule that confession STAT.
BTW --arguemntum ad numerum is still a fallacy.
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| User: "BYTE ME!" |
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07 Aug 2005 05:35:43 PM |
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bam wrote:
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL2@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message=20
news:88uJe.4690$ns.570@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message=20
news:1123439274.385712.158610@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Whatever your personal feelings towards the RCC, no one can argue;
Chastity is the only fool-proof method of prevention.
Except on a realistic plane of existence, it is a failed phylosophy.
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A 2,000 year old religion with over a billion living members united und=
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single head. I wonder if you can name a few other such failures.
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BAM=20
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Wow, I didn't know that Chastity was a religion, let alone that there=20
were a billion followers. Cite, Please!
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Of all the systems of religion that ever were invented, there is none=20
more derogatory to the Almighty, more unedifying to man, more repugnant=20
to reason, and more contradictory in itself, than this thing called=20
Christianity. Too absurd for belief, too impossible to convince, and too =
inconsistent for practice, it renders the heart torpid, or produces only =
atheists and fanatics. As an engine of power, it serves the purpose of=20
despotism; and as a means of wealth, the avarice of priests; but so far=20
as respects the good of man in general, it leads to nothing here or=20
hereafter. =96Thomas Paine
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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07 Aug 2005 05:37:49 PM |
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BYTE ME! wrote:
bam wrote:
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL2@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message
news:88uJe.4690$ns.570@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1123439274.385712.158610@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Whatever your personal feelings towards the RCC, no one can argue;
Chastity is the only fool-proof method of prevention.
Except on a realistic plane of existence, it is a failed phylosophy.
A 2,000 year old religion with over a billion living members united
under a single head. I wonder if you can name a few other such failures.
BAM
Wow, I didn't know that Chastity was a religion, let alone that there
were a billion followers. Cite, Please!
BAM must be one of those that celebrate the holiday of Chastmas. ;-)
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
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* "No one ever demonstrated, so far as I am aware, *
* the non-existence of Zeus or Thor - but they *
* have few followers now." Arthur C. Clarke *
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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07 Aug 2005 07:39:06 PM |
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"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:13wJe.1159$1S.1090@trnddc04...
BYTE ME! wrote:
bam wrote:
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL2@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message
news:88uJe.4690$ns.570@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1123439274.385712.158610@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Whatever your personal feelings towards the RCC, no one can argue;
Chastity is the only fool-proof method of prevention.
Except on a realistic plane of existence, it is a failed phylosophy.
A 2,000 year old religion with over a billion living members united
under a single head. I wonder if you can name a few other such failures.
BAM
Wow, I didn't know that Chastity was a religion, let alone that there
were a billion followers. Cite, Please!
BAM must be one of those that celebrate the holiday of Chastmas. ;-)
I've read other of BAM's posts, he's just a run of the mill idiot that has a
severe problem with his reading comprehension.
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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07 Aug 2005 07:39:51 PM |
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Andrealphus wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:13wJe.1159$1S.1090@trnddc04...
BYTE ME! wrote:
bam wrote:
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL2@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message
news:88uJe.4690$ns.570@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1123439274.385712.158610@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Whatever your personal feelings towards the RCC, no one can argue;
Chastity is the only fool-proof method of prevention.
Except on a realistic plane of existence, it is a failed phylosophy.
A 2,000 year old religion with over a billion living members united
under a single head. I wonder if you can name a few other such failures.
BAM
Wow, I didn't know that Chastity was a religion, let alone that there
were a billion followers. Cite, Please!
BAM must be one of those that celebrate the holiday of Chastmas. ;-)
I've read other of BAM's posts, he's just a run of the mill idiot that has a
severe problem with his reading comprehension.
I've read BAM's other posts as well... I agree. ;-D
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
*--------------------------------------------------*
* "No one ever demonstrated, so far as I am aware, *
* the non-existence of Zeus or Thor - but they *
* have few followers now." Arthur C. Clarke *
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| User: "bam" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican Prefers Chastity to Condoms |
07 Aug 2005 08:24:51 PM |
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"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:rRxJe.10393$WQ.7290@trnddc03...
Andrealphus wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:13wJe.1159$1S.1090@trnddc04...
BYTE ME! wrote:
bam wrote:
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL2@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message
news:88uJe.4690$ns.570@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1123439274.385712.158610@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Whatever your personal feelings towards the RCC, no one can argue;
Chastity is the only fool-proof method of prevention.
Except on a realistic plane of existence, it is a failed phylosophy.
A 2,000 year old religion with over a billion living members united
under a single head. I wonder if you can name a few other such
failures.
BAM
Wow, I didn't know that Chastity was a religion, let alone that there
were a billion followers. Cite, Please!
BAM must be one of those that celebrate the holiday of Chastmas. ;-)
I've read other of BAM's posts, he's just a run of the mill idiot that
has a severe problem with his reading comprehension.
I've read BAM's other posts as well... I agree. ;-D
Two wrongs don't make a right.
BAM
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| User: "maf1029 ©2001-2008" |
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07 Aug 2005 09:00:30 PM |
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On Sun, 7 Aug 2005 21:24:51 -0400, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
Two wrongs don't make a right.
Then you should go to Confession and get back into communion with your
cult.
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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07 Aug 2005 08:27:40 PM |
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bam wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:rRxJe.10393$WQ.7290@trnddc03...
Andrealphus wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:13wJe.1159$1S.1090@trnddc04...
BYTE ME! wrote:
bam wrote:
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL2@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message
news:88uJe.4690$ns.570@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1123439274.385712.158610@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Whatever your personal feelings towards the RCC, no one can argue;
Chastity is the only fool-proof method of prevention.
Except on a realistic plane of existence, it is a failed phylosophy.
A 2,000 year old religion with over a billion living members united
under a single head. I wonder if you can name a few other such
failures.
BAM
Wow, I didn't know that Chastity was a religion, let alone that there
were a billion followers. Cite, Please!
BAM must be one of those that celebrate the holiday of Chastmas. ;-)
I've read other of BAM's posts, he's just a run of the mill idiot that
has a severe problem with his reading comprehension.
I've read BAM's other posts as well... I agree. ;-D
Two wrongs don't make a right.
Yes, but three rights make a left.
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
*--------------------------------------------------*
* "No one ever demonstrated, so far as I am aware, *
* the non-existence of Zeus or Thor - but they *
* have few followers now." Arthur C. Clarke *
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| User: "maf1029 ©2001-2008" |
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07 Aug 2005 08:59:34 PM |
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On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 00:39:06 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<NOREALEMAIL2@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:13wJe.1159$1S.1090@trnddc04...
BYTE ME! wrote:
bam wrote:
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL2@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message
news:88uJe.4690$ns.570@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1123439274.385712.158610@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Whatever your personal feelings towards the RCC, no one can argue;
Chastity is the only fool-proof method of prevention.
Except on a realistic plane of existence, it is a failed phylosophy.
A 2,000 year old religion with over a billion living members united
under a single head. I wonder if you can name a few other such failures.
BAM
Wow, I didn't know that Chastity was a religion, let alone that there
were a billion followers. Cite, Please!
BAM must be one of those that celebrate the holiday of Chastmas. ;-)
I've read other of BAM's posts, he's just a run of the mill idiot that has a
severe problem with his reading comprehension.
He's also a mean sonofabitch/*****-***** who treats other people
like ***** and then gripes about how badly he's treated in return
(typical sniveling Christer).
And here's the fun part -- he claims Catholicism, but I've pointed out
that he's out of communion with the RCC for violating the Catechism of
the Catholic Church (CCC).
bamela has other faults too, but nothing worth mentioning.
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican Prefers Chastity to Condoms |
07 Aug 2005 09:11:59 PM |
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"maf1029 (©2001-2008)" <saxophone@saxophone.whereforeartthousaxophone> wrote
in message news:jsedf1lno31a1ju4hitbhqgdd39ahkvp33@4ax.com...
On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 00:39:06 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<NOREALEMAIL2@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:13wJe.1159$1S.1090@trnddc04...
BYTE ME! wrote:
bam wrote:
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL2@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message
news:88uJe.4690$ns.570@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1123439274.385712.158610@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Whatever your personal feelings towards the RCC, no one can argue;
Chastity is the only fool-proof method of prevention.
Except on a realistic plane of existence, it is a failed phylosophy.
A 2,000 year old religion with over a billion living members united
under a single head. I wonder if you can name a few other such
failures.
BAM
Wow, I didn't know that Chastity was a religion, let alone that there
were a billion followers. Cite, Please!
BAM must be one of those that celebrate the holiday of Chastmas. ;-)
I've read other of BAM's posts, he's just a run of the mill idiot that has
a
severe problem with his reading comprehension.
He's also a mean sonofabitch/*****-***** who treats other people
like ***** and then gripes about how badly he's treated in return
(typical sniveling Christer).
And here's the fun part -- he claims Catholicism, but I've pointed out
that he's out of communion with the RCC for violating the Catechism of
the Catholic Church (CCC).
bamela has other faults too, but nothing worth mentioning.
Yeah, this is why it didn't take me very long to killfile it.
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| User: "maf1029 ©2001-2008" |
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08 Aug 2005 01:49:46 AM |
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On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 02:11:59 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<NOREALEMAIL2@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:
"maf1029 (©2001-2008)" <saxophone@saxophone.whereforeartthousaxophone> wrote
in message news:jsedf1lno31a1ju4hitbhqgdd39ahkvp33@4ax.com...
On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 00:39:06 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<NOREALEMAIL2@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:13wJe.1159$1S.1090@trnddc04...
BYTE ME! wrote:
bam wrote:
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL2@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message
news:88uJe.4690$ns.570@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1123439274.385712.158610@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Whatever your personal feelings towards the RCC, no one can argue;
Chastity is the only fool-proof method of prevention.
Except on a realistic plane of existence, it is a failed phylosophy.
A 2,000 year old religion with over a billion living members united
under a single head. I wonder if you can name a few other such
failures.
BAM
Wow, I didn't know that Chastity was a religion, let alone that there
were a billion followers. Cite, Please!
BAM must be one of those that celebrate the holiday of Chastmas. ;-)
I've read other of BAM's posts, he's just a run of the mill idiot that has
a
severe problem with his reading comprehension.
He's also a mean sonofabitch/*****-***** who treats other people
like ***** and then gripes about how badly he's treated in return
(typical sniveling Christer).
And here's the fun part -- he claims Catholicism, but I've pointed out
that he's out of communion with the RCC for violating the Catechism of
the Catholic Church (CCC).
bamela has other faults too, but nothing worth mentioning.
Yeah, this is why it didn't take me very long to killfile it.
bamela is my new chew toy. When I tire of it, I shall spit it out,
just like a garlic flavored cough drop.
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| User: "bam" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican Prefers Chastity to Condoms |
08 Aug 2005 02:23:21 PM |
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"maf1029 (©2001-2008)" <saxophone@saxophone.whereforartthousaxophone> wrote
in message news:u20ef15int99fcr965q6t15fmqump0cu5q@4ax.com...
On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 02:11:59 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<NOREALEMAIL2@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:
"maf1029 (©2001-2008)" <saxophone@saxophone.whereforeartthousaxophone>
wrote
in message news:jsedf1lno31a1ju4hitbhqgdd39ahkvp33@4ax.com...
On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 00:39:06 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<NOREALEMAIL2@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:13wJe.1159$1S.1090@trnddc04...
BYTE ME! wrote:
bam wrote:
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL2@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message
news:88uJe.4690$ns.570@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1123439274.385712.158610@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Whatever your personal feelings towards the RCC, no one can argue;
Chastity is the only fool-proof method of prevention.
Except on a realistic plane of existence, it is a failed
phylosophy.
A 2,000 year old religion with over a billion living members united
under a single head. I wonder if you can name a few other such
failures.
BAM
Wow, I didn't know that Chastity was a religion, let alone that there
were a billion followers. Cite, Please!
BAM must be one of those that celebrate the holiday of Chastmas. ;-)
I've read other of BAM's posts, he's just a run of the mill idiot that
has
a
severe problem with his reading comprehension.
He's also a mean sonofabitch/*****-***** who treats other people
like ***** and then gripes about how badly he's treated in return
(typical sniveling Christer).
And here's the fun part -- he claims Catholicism, but I've pointed out
that he's out of communion with the RCC for violating the Catechism of
the Catholic Church (CCC).
bamela has other faults too, but nothing worth mentioning.
Yeah, this is why it didn't take me very long to killfile it.
bamela is my new chew toy. When I tire of it, I shall spit it out,
just like a garlic flavored cough drop.
Quiet there, princess.
BAM
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| User: "maf1029 ©2001-2008" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican Prefers Chastity to Condoms |
08 Aug 2005 02:31:29 PM |
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On Mon, 8 Aug 2005 15:23:21 -0400, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
"maf1029 (©2001-2008)" <saxophone@saxophone.whereforartthousaxophone> wrote
in message news:u20ef15int99fcr965q6t15fmqump0cu5q@4ax.com...
On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 02:11:59 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<NOREALEMAIL2@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:
"maf1029 (©2001-2008)" <saxophone@saxophone.whereforeartthousaxophone>
wrote
in message news:jsedf1lno31a1ju4hitbhqgdd39ahkvp33@4ax.com...
On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 00:39:06 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<NOREALEMAIL2@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:13wJe.1159$1S.1090@trnddc04...
BYTE ME! wrote:
bam wrote:
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL2@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message
news:88uJe.4690$ns.570@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1123439274.385712.158610@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Whatever your personal feelings towards the RCC, no one can argue;
Chastity is the only fool-proof method of prevention.
Except on a realistic plane of existence, it is a failed
phylosophy.
A 2,000 year old religion with over a billion living members united
under a single head. I wonder if you can name a few other such
failures.
BAM
Wow, I didn't know that Chastity was a religion, let alone that there
were a billion followers. Cite, Please!
BAM must be one of those that celebrate the holiday of Chastmas. ;-)
I've read other of BAM's posts, he's just a run of the mill idiot that
has
a
severe problem with his reading comprehension.
He's also a mean sonofabitch/*****-***** who treats other people
like ***** and then gripes about how badly he's treated in return
(typical sniveling Christer).
And here's the fun part -- he claims Catholicism, but I've pointed out
that he's out of communion with the RCC for violating the Catechism of
the Catholic Church (CCC).
bamela has other faults too, but nothing worth mentioning.
Yeah, this is why it didn't take me very long to killfile it.
bamela is my new chew toy. When I tire of it, I shall spit it out,
just like a garlic flavored cough drop.
Quiet there, princess.
And once again, you violate your cult's rules. Better book a triple
session for your next Confession, Bryan. Or if you want to renounce
your Catholicism, just cry "anathema."
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| User: "Dionisio" |
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08 Aug 2005 05:42:07 AM |
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bam wrote:
A 2,000 year old religion with over a billion living members united under a
single head. I wonder if you can name a few other such failures.
Would now be a good time to mention that Jesus doesn't agree with the
"might makes right" philosophy?
--
Civilians, and Grunts, and Zombies, Oh My!
http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?Dionisio
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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08 Aug 2005 05:46:27 AM |
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"Dionisio" <moc-rr-thgisniTA@5ellimd.com> wrote in message
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bam wrote:
A 2,000 year old religion with over a billion living members united under
a single head. I wonder if you can name a few other such failures.
Would now be a good time to mention that Jesus doesn't agree with the
"might makes right" philosophy?
Not to mention the fact that just because over a billion morons are all
beating the same drum, it doesn't mean that I'm going to dance to the tune.
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| User: "The Secretary of HomIntern" |
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08 Aug 2005 08:51:13 AM |
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I'll never know another Andrealphus like Andrealphus in
alt.politics.homosexuality, they're so drad:
"Dionisio" wrote...
bam wrote:
A 2,000 year old religion with over a billion living members united under
a single head. I wonder if you can name a few other such failures.
Would now be a good time to mention that Jesus doesn't agree with the
"might makes right" philosophy?
Not to mention the fact that just because over a billion morons are all
beating the same drum, it doesn't mean that I'm going to dance to the
tune.
If we were speaking literally, I would be. Slave to the beat, that's me.
Fortunately, it's only metaphor, so I'm safe.;-{P}
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Hail Eris! "The personal _is_ political."
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican Prefers Chastity to Condoms |
08 Aug 2005 04:28:04 PM |
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"The Secretary of HomIntern" <ykransepop@woem.gro> wrote in message
news:lrJJe.143477$s54.26965@pd7tw2no...
Not to mention the fact that just because over a billion morons are all
beating the same drum, it doesn't mean that I'm going to dance to the
tune.
If we were speaking literally, I would be. Slave to the beat, that's me.
Fortunately, it's only metaphor, so I'm safe.;-{P}
LOL!
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican Prefers Chastity to Condoms |
07 Aug 2005 08:33:57 PM |
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in article 1svJe.25635$hp.10169@bignews4.bellsouth.net, bam at
mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net wrote on 8/7/05 5:57 PM:
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL2@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1123439274.385712.158610@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Whatever your personal feelings towards the RCC, no one can argue;
Chastity is the only fool-proof method of prevention.
Except on a realistic plane of existence, it is a failed phylosophy.
A 2,000 year old religion with over a billion living members united under a
single head. I wonder if you can name a few other such failures.
Other than giving you someplace to kill an hour on a Sunday morning,
what use is that to you?
Paul
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican Prefers Chastity to Condoms |
07 Aug 2005 08:36:56 PM |
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"Paul Duca" <p.duca@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:BF1C2EC5.DE34%p.duca@comcast.net...
in article 1svJe.25635$hp.10169@bignews4.bellsouth.net, bam at
mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net wrote on 8/7/05 5:57 PM:
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL2@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message
news:88uJe.4690$ns.570@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1123439274.385712.158610@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Whatever your personal feelings towards the RCC, no one can argue;
Chastity is the only fool-proof method of prevention.
Except on a realistic plane of existence, it is a failed phylosophy.
A 2,000 year old religion with over a billion living members united under
a
single head. I wonder if you can name a few other such failures.
Other than giving you someplace to kill an hour on a Sunday
morning,
what use is that to you?
They may have a billion or more living members, but I doubt that even half
of them attend church on a regular basis. Our local parish was on the news
just the other day talking about the apathy of the membership of his church.
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| User: "osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican Prefers Chastity to Condoms |
07 Aug 2005 05:04:39 PM |
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Andrealphus wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1123439274.385712.158610@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Whatever your personal feelings towards the RCC, no one can argue;
Chastity is the only fool-proof method of prevention.
Except on a realistic plane of existence, it is a failed phylosophy.
No, actually it isn't. It's just not practiced. If it is practiced, it
can't fail. It's the only full proof method of avoiding STD and/or an
unwanted pregnancy.
However, I do agree with teaching safe sex practice such as taking
birth control pill and using condoms. I see no reason to teach both
methods; however, the best person(s) to teach children are the parents.
Sadly, too many parents don't take the time to talk to their children.
Just talking to them one time isn't enough either, children need to be
reminded.
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican Prefers Chastity to Condoms |
07 Aug 2005 07:36:49 PM |
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"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1123452278.966459.163970@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Andrealphus wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1123439274.385712.158610@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Whatever your personal feelings towards the RCC, no one can argue;
Chastity is the only fool-proof method of prevention.
Except on a realistic plane of existence, it is a failed phylosophy.
No, actually it isn't.
Yes, actually, it is.
It's just not practiced. If it is practiced,
Duh! If it's not practiced, it's failed.
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| User: "osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican Prefers Chastity to Condoms |
07 Aug 2005 08:40:12 PM |
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Andrealphus wrote:
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1123452278.966459.163970@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Andrealphus wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1123439274.385712.158610@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Whatever your personal feelings towards the RCC, no one can argue;
Chastity is the only fool-proof method of prevention.
Except on a realistic plane of existence, it is a failed phylosophy.
No, actually it isn't.
Yes, actually, it is.
It's just not practiced. If it is practiced,
Duh! If it's not practiced, it's failed.
The way I read your statement was if it meant the act of chastity is a
failure, which is why I said what I said. The act itself, if
practiced, can not fail. While most people will not practice it, just
due to human nature, some will. Which is why I support the teaching of
all methods and not just one.
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican Prefers Chastity to Condoms |
07 Aug 2005 09:10:57 PM |
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"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1123465212.193099.207450@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Andrealphus wrote:
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1123452278.966459.163970@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Andrealphus wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1123439274.385712.158610@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Whatever your personal feelings towards the RCC, no one can argue;
Chastity is the only fool-proof method of prevention.
Except on a realistic plane of existence, it is a failed phylosophy.
No, actually it isn't.
Yes, actually, it is.
It's just not practiced. If it is practiced,
Duh! If it's not practiced, it's failed.
The way I read your statement was if it meant the act of chastity is a
failure,
One wonders how you could get that from, "...it is a failed phylosophy."
A phylosophy isn't an act, more of a school of thought. Over all, the
phylosophy of chastity has failed, although a number of individuals have
practiced it to one level of success or another.
which is why I said what I said. The act itself, if
practiced, can not fail. While most people will not practice it, just
due to human nature, some will. Which is why I support the teaching of
all methods and not just one.
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| User: "osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican Prefers Chastity to Condoms |
07 Aug 2005 09:55:19 PM |
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Andrealphus wrote:
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1123465212.193099.207450@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Andrealphus wrote:
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1123452278.966459.163970@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Andrealphus wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1123439274.385712.158610@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Whatever your personal feelings towards the RCC, no one can argue;
Chastity is the only fool-proof method of prevention.
Except on a realistic plane of existence, it is a failed phylosophy.
No, actually it isn't.
Yes, actually, it is.
It's just not practiced. If it is practiced,
Duh! If it's not practiced, it's failed.
The way I read your statement was if it meant the act of chastity is a
failure,
One wonders how you could get that from, "...it is a failed phylosophy."
A phylosophy isn't an act, more of a school of thought. Over all, the
phylosophy of chastity has failed,
That still doesn't mean we should stop teaching it.
although a number of individuals have
practiced it to one level of success or another.
What are the levels? If they practice it, no pregnancy and no STD.
Simple as that, right?
which is why I said what I said. The act itself, if
practiced, can not fail. While most people will not practice it, just
due to human nature, some will. Which is why I support the teaching of
all methods and not just one.
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican Prefers Chastity to Condoms |
08 Aug 2005 04:07:31 AM |
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"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1123469719.019578.223840@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Andrealphus wrote:
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1123465212.193099.207450@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Andrealphus wrote:
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1123452278.966459.163970@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Andrealphus wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1123439274.385712.158610@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Whatever your personal feelings towards the RCC, no one can
argue;
Chastity is the only fool-proof method of prevention.
Except on a realistic plane of existence, it is a failed
phylosophy.
No, actually it isn't.
Yes, actually, it is.
It's just not practiced. If it is practiced,
Duh! If it's not practiced, it's failed.
The way I read your statement was if it meant the act of chastity is a
failure,
One wonders how you could get that from, "...it is a failed phylosophy."
A phylosophy isn't an act, more of a school of thought. Over all, the
phylosophy of chastity has failed,
That still doesn't mean we should stop teaching it.
Never said we should.
although a number of individuals have
practiced it to one level of success or another.
What are the levels? If they practice it, no pregnancy and no STD.
Simple as that, right?
Well, certainly no pregnancy, but some STD's, including HIV, Syphlis, and a
few others can be passed by means other than sexual contact.
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| User: "osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican Prefers Chastity to Condoms |
08 Aug 2005 04:49:53 AM |
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Andrealphus wrote:
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1123469719.019578.223840@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Andrealphus wrote:
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1123465212.193099.207450@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Andrealphus wrote:
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1123452278.966459.163970@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Andrealphus wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1123439274.385712.158610@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Whatever your personal feelings towards the RCC, no one can
argue;
Chastity is the only fool-proof method of prevention.
Except on a realistic plane of existence, it is a failed
phylosophy.
No, actually it isn't.
Yes, actually, it is.
It's just not practiced. If it is practiced,
Duh! If it's not practiced, it's failed.
The way I read your statement was if it meant the act of chastity is a
failure,
One wonders how you could get that from, "...it is a failed phylosophy."
A phylosophy isn't an act, more of a school of thought. Over all, the
phylosophy of chastity has failed,
That still doesn't mean we should stop teaching it.
Never said we should.
although a number of individuals have
practiced it to one level of success or another.
What are the levels? If they practice it, no pregnancy and no STD.
Simple as that, right?
Well, certainly no pregnancy, but some STD's, including HIV, Syphlis, and a
few others can be passed by means other than sexual contact.
Interestingly enough, I heard about a study released that said more
disease is passed by not washing your hands than any other method of
transmitting disease.
Should we stop shaking hands???
But sticking to the issue, STD's, HIV, syphils are most easily
transmitted by sexual contact. Your point is still valid.
I support the teaching of both methods, which I think you and I are in
agreement on.
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican Prefers Chastity to Condoms |
08 Aug 2005 05:26:20 AM |
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"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1123494593.452580.283010@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Andrealphus wrote:
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1123469719.019578.223840@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Andrealphus wrote:
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1123465212.193099.207450@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Andrealphus wrote:
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1123452278.966459.163970@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Andrealphus wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1123439274.385712.158610@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Whatever your personal feelings towards the RCC, no one can
argue;
Chastity is the only fool-proof method of prevention.
Except on a realistic plane of existence, it is a failed
phylosophy.
No, actually it isn't.
Yes, actually, it is.
It's just not practiced. If it is practiced,
Duh! If it's not practiced, it's failed.
The way I read your statement was if it meant the act of chastity is
a
failure,
One wonders how you could get that from, "...it is a failed
phylosophy."
A phylosophy isn't an act, more of a school of thought. Over all,
the
phylosophy of chastity has failed,
That still doesn't mean we should stop teaching it.
Never said we should.
although a number of individuals have
practiced it to one level of success or another.
What are the levels? If they practice it, no pregnancy and no STD.
Simple as that, right?
Well, certainly no pregnancy, but some STD's, including HIV, Syphlis, and
a
few others can be passed by means other than sexual contact.
Interestingly enough, I heard about a study released that said more
disease is passed by not washing your hands than any other method of
transmitting disease.
Should we stop shaking hands???
It would probably be healthier, but it's not likely to happen. I did once
almost lose a business deal over that though. I was in the bathroom using
the urinal just prior to a business meeting, I owned a medium sized IT/MIS
Consulting firm and was in Southfield, Michigan to iron out the final
details with People Soft to become a regional vendor for their software.
Anyway this was before I retired and let my sons run things. So a guy that
I'd never seen before comes in and uses the urinal a few stalls down. I
finish up and go to the sink to wash my hands and he finishes up and just
leaves the bathroom without washing his hands. I thought something like,
"Man, what a nasty fellow!" and didn't give it much more thought. That was
until about 15 minutes later when the meeting was starting and the guy was
introduced to me as the VP of Midwest Regional Vendor Relations, and he
stuck his hand out for me to shake it. I did shake his hand, but apparently
I wasn't very good at hiding the disgust I felt and it was apparent to him.
That and I guess I hesitated a bit too long. I'm not a compulsive
handwasher, or fanatical (Felix Unger type) about cleanliness, but not
washing your hands after using the bathroom is just plain nasty. Anyway,
all through the meeting I had to remember not to touch my face (I tend to
rub my eyes a lot in the spring due to allergies) until I could get to the
bathroom and wash my hands again.
But sticking to the issue, STD's, HIV, syphils are most easily
transmitted by sexual contact. Your point is still valid.
I support the teaching of both methods, which I think you and I are in
agreement on.
Yes.
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