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"J Young" |
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17 Jul 2005 10:11:04 PM |
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Vatican: Punish clients of prostitution |
Once again, the RCC is in the forefront in the battle to protect women
from the evils of liberal feminism. No doubt those arrested as johns
identify themselves as egalitarians; always ready to defend these
women's rights to "support themselves and explore their sexuality". The
Catholic Church cares for women, physically, spiritually, and
emotionally. Dignity is a right, prostitution isn't. Prosecute these
customers to fullest extent of the law.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/world/20050711-1847-vatican-prostitution.html
Vatican: Punish clients of prostitution, pass laws to protect women
from 'slavery'
VATICAN CITY - The Vatican called Monday for laws that punish clients
of prostitutes as well as laws to protect women from what it called a
"modern form of slavery."
The recommendations stemmed from a two-day symposium on prostitution
and human trafficking the Vatican's office for migrants and itinerants
hosted in June.
In the document, the Vatican called for the clients of prostitutes to
be punished, since they fuel the industry.
In addition, women forced into prostitution must be protected by the
law because they are victims of violence and exploitation and have had
their fundamental human rights violated, it said.
"Prostitution is a modern form of slavery," it said, adding that
prostitution and human trafficking were both acts of violence against
women.
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| User: "Cracklin" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican: Punish clients of prostitution |
18 Jul 2005 12:29:26 AM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
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Once again, the RCC is in the forefront in the battle to protect women
from the evils of liberal feminism.
# How? Do you believe women should still be suppressed and not liberated?
No doubt those arrested as johns
identify themselves as egalitarians; always ready to defend these
women's rights to "support themselves and explore their sexuality".
# I'm against prostitution but what choice do these women have? Most are
drug addicts with no marketable skills. No one can live on the minimum
wage. Shall we put them all on welfare and support them and their
addictions until they die of old age or an OD?
The
Catholic Church cares for women, physically, spiritually, and
emotionally
# Since when? They see woman as baby-machines. No birth control or
abortion allowed. That's hardly caring for them.
Dignity is a right, prostitution isn't. Prosecute these
customers to fullest extent of the law.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/world/20050711-1847-vatican-prostitution.html
Vatican: Punish clients of prostitution, pass laws to protect women
from 'slavery'
# And the RC Church will support these woman until they die, OD or get clean
and learn marketable skills?
VATICAN CITY - The Vatican called Monday for laws that punish clients
of prostitutes as well as laws to protect women from what it called a
"modern form of slavery."
# Will the RC Church will support these woman until they die, OD or get
clean and learn marketable skills? Who gets to support them?
The recommendations stemmed from a two-day symposium on prostitution
and human trafficking the Vatican's office for migrants and itinerants
hosted in June.
# Any woman forced in to prostitution should live to see the man/woman who
did it get executed.
In the document, the Vatican called for the clients of prostitutes to
be punished, since they fuel the industry.
# Yes, lets put them in prison at $35,000 each, per year.
In addition, women forced into prostitution must be protected by the
law because they are victims of violence and exploitation and have had
their fundamental human rights violated, it said.
"Prostitution is a modern form of slavery," it said, adding that
prostitution and human trafficking were both acts of violence against
women.
# I agree. But some woman choose it as a way to make a living. Who gets
blamed then?
CR
"Men never do evil so completely and
cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction."
~ Blaise Pascal (1623-1662) ~
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| User: "Johnny" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican: Punish clients of prostitution |
18 Jul 2005 09:46:16 AM |
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"Cracklin'" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
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Once again, the RCC is in the forefront in the battle to protect women
from the evils of liberal feminism.
# How? Do you believe women should still be suppressed and not liberated?
No doubt those arrested as johns
identify themselves as egalitarians; always ready to defend these
women's rights to "support themselves and explore their sexuality".
# I'm against prostitution but what choice do these women have? Most are
drug addicts with no marketable skills. No one can live on the minimum
wage. Shall we put them all on welfare and support them and their
addictions until they die of old age or an OD?
The
Catholic Church cares for women, physically, spiritually, and
emotionally
# Since when? They see woman as baby-machines.
What a joke.
Pro-Choicers see women as baby machines. That is why they are for abortion
on demand, and not for caring for women in whole.
Pro-Choice includes the fetal body parts business.
Pro-Choice views women are incubators for their revenue machine.
When you realize that Pro-Choice is using women for the enrichment of
abortionists and fetal body parts merchants and fetal body disintegration,
which is disguised as a form of stem cell research, maybe then you will see
what the enemy of the USA is doing.
No birth control or
abortion allowed.
You never heard of the Rhythm Method?
That's hardly caring for them.
You obviously do NOT love women in whole or children enough to be able to
make that statement.
The evidence of a lack of care and love in is Pro-Choice.
The evidence of a sexist, immoral, unfaithful agenda is in Pro-Choice.
Dignity is a right, prostitution isn't. Prosecute these
customers to fullest extent of the law.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/world/20050711-1847-vatican-prostitution.html
Vatican: Punish clients of prostitution, pass laws to protect women
from 'slavery'
# And the RC Church will support these woman until they die, OD or get
clean
and learn marketable skills?
VATICAN CITY - The Vatican called Monday for laws that punish clients
of prostitutes as well as laws to protect women from what it called a
"modern form of slavery."
# Will the RC Church will support these woman until they die, OD or get
clean and learn marketable skills?
Will you?
Who gets to support them?
Have you ever heard of the concept "one for all and all for one"?
Have you forgotten E pluribus Unum?
The recommendations stemmed from a two-day symposium on prostitution
and human trafficking the Vatican's office for migrants and itinerants
hosted in June.
# Any woman forced in to prostitution should live to see the man/woman who
did it get executed.
Are you including her parents?
In the document, the Vatican called for the clients of prostitutes to
be punished, since they fuel the industry.
# Yes, lets put them in prison at $35,000 each, per year.
Your idea?
In addition, women forced into prostitution must be protected by the
law because they are victims of violence and exploitation and have had
their fundamental human rights violated, it said.
"Prostitution is a modern form of slavery," it said, adding that
prostitution and human trafficking were both acts of violence against
women.
# I agree. But some woman choose it as a way to make a living. Who gets
blamed then?
It isn't me.
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican: Punish clients of prostitution |
18 Jul 2005 11:06:10 PM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Cracklin'" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:42db374c$0$3572$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com...
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1121656264.793696.18280@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Once again, the RCC is in the forefront in the battle to protect women
from the evils of liberal feminism.
# How? Do you believe women should still be suppressed and not liberated?
No doubt those arrested as johns identify themselves as egalitarians;
always ready to defend these women's rights to "support themselves and
explore their sexuality".
# I'm against prostitution but what choice do these women have? Most are
drug addicts with no marketable skills. No one can live on the minimum
wage. Shall we put them all on welfare and support them and their
addictions until they die of old age or an OD?
The Catholic Church cares for women, physically, spiritually, and
emotionally
# Since when? They see woman as baby-machines.
What a joke. Pro-Choicers see women as baby machines. That is why they are
for abortion on demand, and not for caring for women in whole.
Evidently, there's no such thing as pro-choice parents on whatever planet you
were deported here from.
Pro-Choice includes the fetal body parts business.
Why would pro-choicers include something that doesn't exist except in your
defective imagination?
Pro-Choice views women are incubators for their revenue machine.
....even if an abortion only costs as little as two percent of what a
childbirth routinely costs.
When you realize that Pro-Choice is using women for the enrichment of
abortionists and fetal body parts merchants and fetal body disintegration,
which is disguised as a form of stem cell research, maybe then you will see
what the enemy of the USA is doing.
Indeed...you're whining at those who won't just bend over and let YOU drive.
No birth control or abortion allowed.
You never heard of the Rhythm Method?
There's another word for people who believe in the rhythm method: parents.
That's hardly caring for them.
You obviously do NOT love women in whole or children enough to be able to
make that statement.
97.5 on the irony meter.
The evidence of a lack of care and love in is Pro-Choice.
Like I said, you obviously don't have pro-choice parents on whatever planet
exiled you.
The evidence of a sexist, immoral, unfaithful agenda is in Pro-Choice.
The evidence of mental illness is all over your babbling.
[...]
VATICAN CITY - The Vatican called Monday for laws that punish clients
of prostitutes as well as laws to protect women from what it called a
"modern form of slavery."
# Will the RC Church will support these woman until they die, OD or get
clean and learn marketable skills?
Will you?
You're the clown demanding that the RCC gets its wishes...if they're so
goddamned interested, let them do their own work instead of effectively
demanding peonage for women.
Who gets to support them?
Have you ever heard of the concept "one for all and all for one"?
So you're a socialist? What a surprise. No wonder I'm a libertarian.
Have you forgotten E pluribus Unum?
You never understood it in the first place.
The recommendations stemmed from a two-day symposium on prostitution
and human trafficking the Vatican's office for migrants and itinerants
hosted in June.
# Any woman forced in to prostitution should live to see the man/woman who
did it get executed.
Are you including her parents?
Why? Are you living in your situation because of what your parents did to
you?
In the document, the Vatican called for the clients of prostitutes to
be punished, since they fuel the industry.
# Yes, lets put them in prison at $35,000 each, per year.
Your idea?
Your inability to understand what he stated - that us taxpayers are footing
that bill for housing prisoners.
In addition, women forced into prostitution must be protected by the
law because they are victims of violence and exploitation and have had
their fundamental human rights violated, it said.
"Prostitution is a modern form of slavery," it said, adding that
prostitution and human trafficking were both acts of violence against
women.
# I agree. But some woman choose it as a way to make a living. Who gets
blamed then?
It isn't me.
You're a shameless ***** for any nutcase that'll agree with you on your pet
causes, Wentzky.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 5, Houston 3 (April 26)
NEXT GAME: Date/opponent/site TBA in August 2005
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| User: "Cracklin" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican: Punish clients of prostitution |
18 Jul 2005 11:17:25 AM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
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"Cracklin'" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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The
Catholic Church cares for women, physically, spiritually, and
emotionally
# Since when? They see woman as baby-machines.
What a joke.
Pro-Choicers see women as baby machines. That is why they are for abortion
on demand, and not for caring for women in whole.
## By caring for them you mean to coerce and force them to bear the unwanted
child. That's a strange way to care for someone.
Pro-Choice includes the fetal body parts business.
## Next you'll claim they sell them by the pound.
Pro-Choice views women are incubators for their revenue machine.
## Anti-Choice views women as incubators for the multi million dollar
birthing-business, plus extra money for any complications due to childbirth.
When you realize that Pro-Choice is using women for the enrichment of
abortionists and fetal body parts merchants and fetal body disintegration,
which is disguised as a form of stem cell research, maybe then you will
see
what the enemy of the USA is doing.
## So we're aborting desperate women to get fetuses for a non-existent
industry?
No birth control or
abortion allowed.
You never heard of the Rhythm Method?
## It doesn't work. Why do you think sensible Catholics use other methods?
That's hardly caring for them.
You obviously do NOT love women in whole or children enough to be able to
make that statement.
## So loving them means to coerce/force them to bear unwanted children? To
possibly destroy their lives and futures? How is that loving them? Please
answer the question. You keep avoiding this question in your redundant
messages.
The evidence of a lack of care and love in is Pro-Choice.
## So loving them means to coerce/force them to bear unwanted children? To
possibly destroy their lives and futures? How is that loving them? Please
answer the question. You keep avoiding this question in your redundant
messages.
The evidence of a sexist, immoral, unfaithful agenda is in Pro-Choice.
## So loving them means to coerce/force them to bear unwanted children? To
possibly destroy their lives and futures? How is that loving them? Please
answer the question. You keep avoiding this question in your redundant
messages.
# Will the RC Church will support these woman until they die, OD or get
clean and learn marketable skills?
Will you?
# Please answer the questions you keep avoiding. Will the RC Church will
support these woman until they die, OD or get
clean and learn marketable skills? Who gets to support them?
Who gets to support them?
Have you ever heard of the concept "one for all and all for one"?
Have you forgotten E pluribus Unum?
# Please answer the questions you keep avoiding. Will the RC Church will
support these woman until they die, OD or get
clean and learn marketable skills? Who gets to support them?
# Any woman forced in to prostitution should live to see the man/woman
who
did it get executed.
Are you including her parents?
# Yes, anyone who FORCED her into it.
In the document, the Vatican called for the clients of prostitutes to
be punished, since they fuel the industry.
# Yes, lets put them in prison at $35,000 each, per year.
Your idea?
# Yours?
# I agree. But some woman choose it as a way to make a living. Who
gets
blamed then?
It isn't me.
# Nor me..........
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CR.........
"You can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not
based on evidence, it's based on a deep seated need to believe."
~ Carl Sagan ~
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| User: "Malcolm" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican: Punish clients of prostitution |
19 Jul 2005 04:40:52 PM |
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"Cracklin'" <c@c.c> wrote
# Please answer the questions you keep avoiding. Will the RC Church will
support these woman until they die, OD or get
clean and learn marketable skills? Who gets to support them?
In Ireland there used to be institutions call "Magdalenes" which did exactly
what you suggest. Liberals disliked them, and they were closed, with the
state supposedly taking over the problem of supporting these women
financially.
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| User: "Cracklin" |
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19 Jul 2005 05:53:02 PM |
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"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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"Cracklin'" <c@c.c> wrote
# Please answer the questions you keep avoiding. Will the RC Church
will
support these woman until they die, OD or get
clean and learn marketable skills? Who gets to support them?
In Ireland there used to be institutions call "Magdalenes" which did
exactly
what you suggest. Liberals disliked them, and they were closed, with the
state supposedly taking over the problem of supporting these women
financially.
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The state = taxpayers.
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CR........
What the world needs is not dogma but an attitude of scientific
inquiry combined with a belief that the torture of millions is
not desirable, whether inflicted by Stalin or by a Deity imagined
in the likeness of the believer. ~ Bertrand Russell ~
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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19 Jul 2005 05:55:47 PM |
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In episode <dbjs14$id$14@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>, Malcolm
burst into the room and exclaimed:
"Cracklin'" <c@c.c> wrote
# Please answer the questions you keep avoiding. Will the RC Church
will support these woman until they die, OD or get clean and learn
marketable skills? Who gets to support them?
In Ireland there used to be institutions call "Magdalenes" which did
exactly what you suggest. Liberals disliked them, and they were closed,
with the state supposedly taking over the problem of supporting these
women financially.
I've read about those places. They should not have just been closed but
the people in the church responsible for them should have been prosecuted...
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Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
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| User: "Johnny" |
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18 Jul 2005 03:01:27 PM |
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"Cracklin'" <c@c.c> wrote in message
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
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"Cracklin'" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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The
Catholic Church cares for women, physically, spiritually, and
emotionally
# Since when? They see woman as baby-machines.
What a joke.
Pro-Choicers see women as baby machines. That is why they are for
abortion
on demand, and not for caring for women in whole.
## By caring for them you mean to coerce and force them to bear the
unwanted
child. That's a strange way to care for someone.
Pro-Choice includes the fetal body parts business.
## Next you'll claim they sell them by the pound.
When I know they sell by the gram?
Pro-Choice views women are incubators for their revenue machine.
## Anti-Choice views women as incubators for the multi million dollar
birthing-business, plus extra money for any complications due to
childbirth.
Not even close.
Take your beef there to the AMA and whoever you think is trying to force
women to bear any child that is conceived in her to term (which includes
rape victims).
When you realize that Pro-Choice is using women for the enrichment of
abortionists and fetal body parts merchants and fetal body
disintegration,
which is disguised as a form of stem cell research, maybe then you will
see
what the enemy of the USA is doing.
## So we're aborting desperate women to get fetuses for a non-existent
industry?
What?
Are you that in the dark about what is happening?
No birth control or
abortion allowed.
You never heard of the Rhythm Method?
## It doesn't work.
You never heard of it?
Why do you think sensible Catholics use other methods?
Why do you think some people are not afraid of children?
That's hardly caring for them.
You obviously do NOT love women in whole or children enough to be able to
make that statement.
## So loving them means to coerce/force them to bear unwanted children?
That is your angle.
To
possibly destroy their lives and futures?
Your angle.
That is also a manifestation of the Pro-Choice government which creates so
many single moms.
How is that loving them?
Why don't you tell me since the current Pro-Choice government is what is
causing all these maladies you are telling me about?
Please
answer the question.
You are telling me about the status quo.
Now, what are you going to do to help alleviate the nation's problems?
You keep avoiding this question in your redundant
messages.
I am not the careless, ignorant wimp who chooses to abandon and then lie to
cover my *****.
Why don't you talk to those people and make them pay for their mistakes?
The evidence of a lack of care and love in is Pro-Choice.
## So loving them means to coerce/force them to bear unwanted children?
Your angle.
To
possibly destroy their lives and futures?
Your angle.
That is also a manifestation of the Pro-Choice government which creates so
many single moms.
How is that loving them?
Why don't you tell me since the current Pro-Choice government is what is
causing all these maladies you are telling me about?
Please
answer the question.
You are telling me about the status quo.
Now, what are you going to do to help alleviate the nation's problems?
You keep avoiding this question in your redundant
messages.
I am not the careless, ignorant wimp who chooses to abandon and then lie to
cover my *****.
Why don't you talk to those people and make them pay for their mistakes?
The evidence of a sexist, immoral, unfaithful agenda is in Pro-Choice.
## So loving them means to coerce/force them to bear unwanted children?
To
possibly destroy their lives and futures? How is that loving them?
Please
answer the question. You keep avoiding this question in your redundant
messages.
See my responses above to your repetitive harangue.
# Will the RC Church will support these woman until they die, OD or get
clean and learn marketable skills?
Will you?
# Please answer the questions you keep avoiding. Will the RC Church will
support these woman until they die, OD or get
clean and learn marketable skills? Who gets to support them?
Your repetitive harangue is quite that.
Who gets to support them?
Have you ever heard of the concept "one for all and all for one"?
Have you forgotten E pluribus Unum?
# Please answer the questions you keep avoiding. Will the RC Church will
support these woman until they die, OD or get
clean and learn marketable skills? Who gets to support them?
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
# Any woman forced in to prostitution should live to see the man/woman
who
did it get executed.
Are you including her parents?
# Yes, anyone who FORCED her into it.
You think that qualifies you to make the rules?
You like to execute people who murdered no one?
In the document, the Vatican called for the clients of prostitutes to
be punished, since they fuel the industry.
# Yes, lets put them in prison at $35,000 each, per year.
Your idea?
# Yours?
No.
# I agree. But some woman choose it as a way to make a living. Who
gets
blamed then?
It isn't me.
# Nor me..........
One thing we supposedly can agree on.
How do I know you aren't some Heidi Fleiss?
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| User: "Cracklin" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican: Punish clients of prostitution |
18 Jul 2005 06:32:02 PM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
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"Cracklin'" <c@c.c> wrote in message
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The
Catholic Church cares for women, physically, spiritually, and
emotionally
# Since when? They see woman as baby-machines.
What a joke.
Pro-Choicers see women as baby machines. That is why they are for
abortion
on demand, and not for caring for women in whole.
## By caring for them you mean to coerce and force them to bear the
unwanted
child. That's a strange way to care for someone.
Pro-Choice includes the fetal body parts business.
## Next you'll claim they sell them by the pound.
When I know they sell by the gram?
$$ So? All it is stem cells.... what's the big deal? No one aborted
their fetus to sell these cells.
Pro-Choice views women are incubators for their revenue machine.
## Anti-Choice views women as incubators for the multi million dollar
birthing-business, plus extra money for any complications due to
childbirth.
Not even close.
$$ Oh you mean the Dr's in your state/country don't charge to deliver babies
anymore? There is no charge when there are complications? When did this
FREE service start?
Take your beef there to the AMA and whoever you think is trying to force
women to bear any child that is conceived in her to term (which includes
rape victims).
$$ No, that's where you take your problems.... abortion is legal.
## So we're aborting desperate women to get fetuses for a non-existent
industry?
What?
Are you that in the dark about what is happening?
$$ Are you?
You never heard of the Rhythm Method?
## It doesn't work.
You never heard of it?
$$ Who hasn't heard of it? No one in their right mind would use that
method.
Why do you think sensible Catholics use other methods?
Why do you think some people are not afraid of children?
$$ Who is afraid of children? Maybe you are since you never had any??? I
repeat, smart Catholics use a good method of BC unless they want more
children - just like everyone else. :-)
## So loving them means to coerce/force them to bear unwanted children?
That is your angle.
$$ What is your angle?
To
possibly destroy their lives and futures?
Your angle.
$$ What is your angle?
That is also a manifestation of the Pro-Choice government which creates so
many single moms.
$$ There is? Where are all the single moms caused by women having a
choice?
How is that loving them?
Why don't you tell me since the current Pro-Choice government is what is
causing all these maladies you are telling me about?
$$ Which maladies?
Please
answer the question.
You are telling me about the status quo.
Now, what are you going to do to help alleviate the nation's problems?
$$ Which problems?
You keep avoiding this question in your redundant
messages.
I am not the careless, ignorant wimp who chooses to abandon and then lie
to
cover my *****.
Why don't you talk to those people and make them pay for their mistakes?
$$ Make them SUFFER you mean? Why?
## So loving them means to coerce/force them to bear unwanted children?
Your angle.
$$ So what is your angle?
To
possibly destroy their lives and futures?
Your angle.
$$ So what is your angle?
That is also a manifestation of the Pro-Choice government which creates so
many single moms.
$$ How?
How is that loving them?
Why don't you tell me since the current Pro-Choice government is what is
causing all these maladies you are telling me about?
$$ How?
Please
answer the question.
You are telling me about the status quo.
Now, what are you going to do to help alleviate the nation's problems?
$$ What are you doing to alleviate them?
You keep avoiding this question in your redundant
messages.
I am not the careless, ignorant wimp who chooses to abandon and then lie
to
cover my *****.
Why don't you talk to those people and make them pay for their mistakes?
$$ Make the SUFFER you mean. Make them SUFFER so people like you can get
some sick satisfaction........
You still never answered the questions.
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CR.....
Wise men stare at the unknown, and boldly asks, WHY?
Others... fall on their hands and knees, and start mumbling...
(God did it! God did it!)
~ Thus Spake God's Creator ~
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Johnny wrote:
"Cracklin'" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
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Once again, the RCC is in the forefront in the battle to protect women
from the evils of liberal feminism.
# How? Do you believe women should still be suppressed and not liberated?
No doubt those arrested as johns
identify themselves as egalitarians; always ready to defend these
women's rights to "support themselves and explore their sexuality".
# I'm against prostitution but what choice do these women have? Most are
drug addicts with no marketable skills. No one can live on the minimum
wage. Shall we put them all on welfare and support them and their
addictions until they die of old age or an OD?
The
Catholic Church cares for women, physically, spiritually, and
emotionally
# Since when? They see woman as baby-machines.
What a joke.
Pro-Choicers see women as baby machines. That is why they are for abortion
on demand, and not for caring for women in whole.
Pro-Choice includes the fetal body parts business.
Pro-Choice views women are incubators for their revenue machine.
When you realize that Pro-Choice is using women for the enrichment of
abortionists and fetal body parts merchants and fetal body disintegration,
which is disguised as a form of stem cell research, maybe then you will see
what the enemy of the USA is doing.
No birth control or
abortion allowed.
You never heard of the Rhythm Method?
The Rhythm Method is better know as Vatican Roulette.
B C.
That's hardly caring for them.
You obviously do NOT love women in whole or children enough to be able to
make that statement.
The evidence of a lack of care and love in is Pro-Choice.
The evidence of a sexist, immoral, unfaithful agenda is in Pro-Choice.
Dignity is a right, prostitution isn't. Prosecute these
customers to fullest extent of the law.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/world/20050711-1847-vatican-prostitution.html
Vatican: Punish clients of prostitution, pass laws to protect women
from 'slavery'
# And the RC Church will support these woman until they die, OD or get
clean
and learn marketable skills?
VATICAN CITY - The Vatican called Monday for laws that punish clients
of prostitutes as well as laws to protect women from what it called a
"modern form of slavery."
# Will the RC Church will support these woman until they die, OD or get
clean and learn marketable skills?
Will you?
Who gets to support them?
Have you ever heard of the concept "one for all and all for one"?
Have you forgotten E pluribus Unum?
The recommendations stemmed from a two-day symposium on prostitution
and human trafficking the Vatican's office for migrants and itinerants
hosted in June.
# Any woman forced in to prostitution should live to see the man/woman who
did it get executed.
Are you including her parents?
In the document, the Vatican called for the clients of prostitutes to
be punished, since they fuel the industry.
# Yes, lets put them in prison at $35,000 each, per year.
Your idea?
In addition, women forced into prostitution must be protected by the
law because they are victims of violence and exploitation and have had
their fundamental human rights violated, it said.
"Prostitution is a modern form of slavery," it said, adding that
prostitution and human trafficking were both acts of violence against
women.
# I agree. But some woman choose it as a way to make a living. Who gets
blamed then?
It isn't me.
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<bernard_connor@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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Johnny wrote:
"Cracklin'" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:42db374c$0$3572$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com...
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1121656264.793696.18280@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Once again, the RCC is in the forefront in the battle to protect
women
from the evils of liberal feminism.
# How? Do you believe women should still be suppressed and not
liberated?
No doubt those arrested as johns
identify themselves as egalitarians; always ready to defend these
women's rights to "support themselves and explore their sexuality".
# I'm against prostitution but what choice do these women have? Most
are
drug addicts with no marketable skills. No one can live on the
minimum
wage. Shall we put them all on welfare and support them and their
addictions until they die of old age or an OD?
The
Catholic Church cares for women, physically, spiritually, and
emotionally
# Since when? They see woman as baby-machines.
What a joke.
Pro-Choicers see women as baby machines. That is why they are for
abortion
on demand, and not for caring for women in whole.
Pro-Choice includes the fetal body parts business.
Pro-Choice views women are incubators for their revenue machine.
When you realize that Pro-Choice is using women for the enrichment of
abortionists and fetal body parts merchants and fetal body
disintegration,
which is disguised as a form of stem cell research, maybe then you will
see
what the enemy of the USA is doing.
No birth control or
abortion allowed.
You never heard of the Rhythm Method?
The Rhythm Method is better know as Vatican Roulette.
===================
That's why this misogynistic Johnny wants women to use it - so they can get
pregnant and PAY for having sex. Every catholic girl (single and married) I
knew and grew up with used regular birth control after she realized what BS
the rhythm method was.
--
CR..........
But look what your Jehovah god said in his bible:
Psalm 137:9
"Happy shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the
stones." (Infanticide was approved by Jehovah)
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18 Jul 2005 01:16:08 AM |
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Cracklin' wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1121656264.793696.18280@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Once again, the RCC is in the forefront in the battle to protect women
from the evils of liberal feminism.
# How? Do you believe women should still be suppressed and not liberated?
No doubt those arrested as johns
identify themselves as egalitarians; always ready to defend these
women's rights to "support themselves and explore their sexuality".
# I'm against prostitution but what choice do these women have? Most are
drug addicts with no marketable skills. No one can live on the minimum
wage. Shall we put them all on welfare and support them and their
addictions until they die of old age or an OD?
The
Catholic Church cares for women, physically, spiritually, and
emotionally
# Since when? They see woman as baby-machines. No birth control or
abortion allowed. That's hardly caring for them.
Dignity is a right, prostitution isn't. Prosecute these
customers to fullest extent of the law.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/world/20050711-1847-vatican-prostitution.html
Vatican: Punish clients of prostitution, pass laws to protect women
from 'slavery'
# And the RC Church will support these woman until they die, OD or get clean
and learn marketable skills?
VATICAN CITY - The Vatican called Monday for laws that punish clients
of prostitutes as well as laws to protect women from what it called a
"modern form of slavery."
# Will the RC Church will support these woman until they die, OD or get
clean and learn marketable skills? Who gets to support them?
The recommendations stemmed from a two-day symposium on prostitution
and human trafficking the Vatican's office for migrants and itinerants
hosted in June.
# Any woman forced in to prostitution should live to see the man/woman who
did it get executed.
In the document, the Vatican called for the clients of prostitutes to
be punished, since they fuel the industry.
# Yes, lets put them in prison at $35,000 each, per year.
In addition, women forced into prostitution must be protected by the
law because they are victims of violence and exploitation and have had
their fundamental human rights violated, it said.
"Prostitution is a modern form of slavery," it said, adding that
prostitution and human trafficking were both acts of violence against
women.
# I agree. But some woman choose it as a way to make a living. Who gets
blamed then?
CR
"Men never do evil so completely and
cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction."
~ Blaise Pascal (1623-1662) ~
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The priority of the law should be to punish the pimping Catholic
Hierarchy who sheltered their whoring priests and switched them around
when the cops were moving in.
B C.
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18 Jul 2005 11:01:05 AM |
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<bernard_connor@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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The priority of the law should be to punish the pimping Catholic
Hierarchy who sheltered their whoring priests and switched them around
when the cops were moving in.
B C.
=======================
I couldn't agree more! The churches main interest sure wasn't the children
being used and sexually abused.
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CR.....
http://silentlambs.org
www.freeminds.org
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18 Jul 2005 09:47:09 AM |
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<bernard_connor@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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Cracklin' wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1121656264.793696.18280@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Once again, the RCC is in the forefront in the battle to protect women
from the evils of liberal feminism.
# How? Do you believe women should still be suppressed and not
liberated?
No doubt those arrested as johns
identify themselves as egalitarians; always ready to defend these
women's rights to "support themselves and explore their sexuality".
# I'm against prostitution but what choice do these women have? Most are
drug addicts with no marketable skills. No one can live on the minimum
wage. Shall we put them all on welfare and support them and their
addictions until they die of old age or an OD?
The
Catholic Church cares for women, physically, spiritually, and
emotionally
# Since when? They see woman as baby-machines. No birth control or
abortion allowed. That's hardly caring for them.
Dignity is a right, prostitution isn't. Prosecute these
customers to fullest extent of the law.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/world/20050711-1847-vatican-prostitution.html
Vatican: Punish clients of prostitution, pass laws to protect women
from 'slavery'
# And the RC Church will support these woman until they die, OD or get
clean
and learn marketable skills?
VATICAN CITY - The Vatican called Monday for laws that punish clients
of prostitutes as well as laws to protect women from what it called a
"modern form of slavery."
# Will the RC Church will support these woman until they die, OD or get
clean and learn marketable skills? Who gets to support them?
The recommendations stemmed from a two-day symposium on prostitution
and human trafficking the Vatican's office for migrants and itinerants
hosted in June.
# Any woman forced in to prostitution should live to see the man/woman
who
did it get executed.
In the document, the Vatican called for the clients of prostitutes to
be punished, since they fuel the industry.
# Yes, lets put them in prison at $35,000 each, per year.
In addition, women forced into prostitution must be protected by the
law because they are victims of violence and exploitation and have had
their fundamental human rights violated, it said.
"Prostitution is a modern form of slavery," it said, adding that
prostitution and human trafficking were both acts of violence against
women.
# I agree. But some woman choose it as a way to make a living. Who gets
blamed then?
CR
"Men never do evil so completely and
cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction."
~ Blaise Pascal (1623-1662) ~
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The priority of the law should be to punish the pimping Catholic
Hierarchy who sheltered their whoring priests and switched them around
when the cops were moving in.
B C.
Sufferring from Tunnelvision Syndrome again?
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18 Jul 2005 11:03:43 AM |
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"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
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Sufferring from Tunnelvision Syndrome again?
====================
Oh yeah, I forgot - in your neck of the woods the taxpayers are happy to
support these woman so they don't have to be hookers to survive and feed
their drug habits.
--
CR........
"Where two or three are gathered together in MY name, I am in their midst:"
[Matt 18:20] No money making Churches needed.
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18 Jul 2005 12:18:22 PM |
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Cracklin' wrote:
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in message
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Sufferring from Tunnelvision Syndrome again?
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Oh yeah, I forgot - in your neck of the woods the taxpayers are happy to
support these woman so they don't have to be hookers to survive and feed
their drug habits.
--
CR........
"Where two or three are gathered together in MY name, I am in their midst:"
[Matt 18:20] No money making Churches needed.
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Here in Dublin many ordinary mothers go on the streets when faced with
big bills from mortgages to First Communions. The latter is a large
money-making business and drives women to desperate measures to meet
the crazy costs.
B C.
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18 Jul 2005 06:20:39 PM |
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<bernard_connor@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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Here in Dublin many ordinary mothers go on the streets when faced with
big bills from mortgages to First Communions. The latter is a large
money-making business and drives women to desperate measures to meet
the crazy costs.
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Isn't this First Communion related to the church and religion? Why then
doesn't the church pay the costs or stop the practice?
--
CR....
How did we get here?
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/
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"To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as
erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin."
[Cardinal Bellarmine 1615, during the trial of Galileo]
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19 Jul 2005 01:31:23 AM |
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Cracklin' wrote:
<bernard_connor@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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Here in Dublin many ordinary mothers go on the streets when faced with
big bills from mortgages to First Communions. The latter is a large
money-making business and drives women to desperate measures to meet
the crazy costs.
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Isn't this First Communion related to the church and religion? Why then
doesn't the church pay the costs or stop the practice?
--
CR....
How did we get here?
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/
=================================
"To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as
erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin."
[Cardinal Bellarmine 1615, during the trial of Galileo]
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Irrespective of its religious origin, First Communion is a social
occasion costing an enormous sum of money,especially in working class
communities.
It causes envy and upset among children who do not qualify because of
their parents beliefs or lack of them.
B C.
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18 Jul 2005 12:45:24 PM |
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 10:47:09 -0400, Johnny wrote
(in message <HgPCe.97243$ho.32430@bignews6.bellsouth.net>):
The priority of the law should be to punish the pimping Catholic
Hierarchy who sheltered their whoring priests and switched them around
when the cops were moving in.
B C.
Sufferring from Tunnelvision Syndrome again?
One might say you have blinders on and don't see what the church doesn't want
you to see. Typical christian sheep. :D
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"I used two alias in here only. Robert and now Osprey" --Osprey (AKA DECO)
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18 Jul 2005 03:37:47 AM |
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 00:29:26 -0500, "Cracklin'"
<invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Someone wrote
The
Catholic Church cares for women, physically, spiritually, and
emotionally
# Since when? They see woman as baby-machines. No birth control or
abortion allowed. That's hardly caring for them.
I read that in the Australian sex industry, Catholic women are
disproportionally represented.
Could this represent the effect of Catholic support for traditional
gender roles, in which men are expected to financially support women?
These days few men can earn enough to support a wife.
So could prostitution be a last bastion of traditional gender roles?
Where a man can be a man and a woman can be a woman, in the old
fashioned way?
Peter
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18 Jul 2005 11:08:32 AM |
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"Monist__" <no_spam@filter.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 00:29:26 -0500, "Cracklin'"
<invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Someone wrote
The
Catholic Church cares for women, physically, spiritually, and
emotionally
# Since when? They see woman as baby-machines. No birth control or
abortion allowed. That's hardly caring for them.
I read that in the Australian sex industry, Catholic women are
disproportionally represented.
## Maybe because there are more Catholics in general in AU?
Could this represent the effect of Catholic support for traditional
gender roles, in which men are expected to financially support women?
## Most hookers are single and trying to support themselves. It's got to be
a horrible life for them. :-(
These days few men can earn enough to support a wife.
## This is so true. Women are forced out of the home and into jobs.
So could prostitution be a last bastion of traditional gender roles?
Where a man can be a man and a woman can be a woman, in the old
fashioned way?
## It's more that the poor, uneducated, drug addicted woman needs the money
and the endless stream of men want the sex......
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CR.......
Aid to Bible Understanding, 1971 ed., p. 1061
"While malicious lying is definitely condemned in
the Bible, this does not mean that a person is under
obligation to divulge truthful information to people
who are not entitled to it." *WHO DECIDES?*
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http://www.intrex.net/talley/list7_13.html
So many sheep, so much fleecing.
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18 Jul 2005 08:55:56 AM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1121656264.793696.18280@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Once again, the RCC is in the forefront in the battle to protect women
from the evils of liberal feminism. No doubt those arrested as johns
identify themselves as egalitarians; always ready to defend these
women's rights to "support themselves and explore their sexuality". The
Catholic Church cares for women, physically, spiritually, and
emotionally. Dignity is a right, prostitution isn't. Prosecute these
customers to fullest extent of the law.
For the most part you have a drug addict hooking a drunkard. So the man is
being taken advantage of by the woman, just as the woman is being taken
advantage of by the pimp.
Why not focus on the pimp?
BAM
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18 Jul 2005 11:22:18 AM |
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"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote in message
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For the most part you have a drug addict hooking a drunkard. So the man is
being taken advantage of by the woman, just as the woman is being taken
advantage of by the pimp.
Why not focus on the pimp?
=======================
That's what I was wondering since they're the ones running this miserable
business and making most of the money. You almost never hear of the Pimps
being rounded up and prosecuted unless they FORCED the woman in the trade.
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CR.........
The JWs keep saying it (Armageddon) is imminent, just a matter of time,
only a matter of weeks or months from the predicted date: 1874(+40),
1878(+40), 1910,
1914, 1915, 1916, 1917, 1918, 1922, 1925, 1940, 1945, 1975, 1999/2000...
LATEST DATE: 2034 Come get your predictions and palm read by the GB!
Just one WRONG date after another - they're truly inspired by *GASP* demons!
"If he is a false prophet (like the GB), his prophecy will fail to come to
pass."
(Watchtower, 5/15/30).
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20 Jul 2005 11:57:58 AM |
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 11:22:18 -0500, "Cracklin'" <c@c.c> wrote:
... since they're the ones running this miserable
business and making most of the money.
Its not necessarily miserable. In countries where prostitution is
legal the women have police protection and can employ a man to get
customers for them rather than the other way round.
Furthermore in a legalised situation, the business can be run like a
club, which only accepts members if they treat the women as they like
to be treated and are found by the women to be sufficiently
attractive.
If the women are free to choose their customers everyone can have a
great time.
Peter
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18 Jul 2005 12:21:17 AM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1121656264.793696.18280@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Once again, the RCC is in the forefront in the battle to protect women
from the evils of liberal feminism. No doubt those arrested as johns
identify themselves as egalitarians; always ready to defend these
women's rights to "support themselves and explore their sexuality". The
Catholic Church cares for women, physically, spiritually, and
emotionally. Dignity is a right, prostitution isn't. Prosecute these
customers to fullest extent of the law.
Make them say 10 hail Marys and an act of contrition :o)
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/world/20050711-1847-vatican-prostitution.html
Vatican: Punish clients of prostitution, pass laws to protect women
from 'slavery'
VATICAN CITY - The Vatican called Monday for laws that punish clients
of prostitutes as well as laws to protect women from what it called a
"modern form of slavery."
Does that also include dating as prostitution. If a man buys a woman dinner
and she fucks him, is that prostitution?
The recommendations stemmed from a two-day symposium on prostitution
and human trafficking the Vatican's office for migrants and itinerants
hosted in June.
In the document, the Vatican called for the clients of prostitutes to
be punished, since they fuel the industry.
In addition, women forced into prostitution
There are laws against forcing people so just prosecute the jews who abuse
these women. But most women do this because it's easy money and they don't
like doing real work.
must be protected by the
law because they are victims of violence and exploitation and have had
their fundamental human rights violated, it said.
"Prostitution is a modern form of slavery," it said, adding that
prostitution and human trafficking were both acts of violence against
women.
As I said, go after the jews who control this racket.
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18 Jul 2005 08:21:59 PM |
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 1:21:17 -0400, Moishe Lipshitz wrote
(in message <h%GCe.3226$Kz3.2072@trndny04>):
Does that also include dating as prostitution. If a man buys a woman dinner
and she fucks him, is that prostitution?
Only if they don't kiss. :D
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18 Jul 2005 07:33:11 PM |
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In episode <1121656264.793696.18280@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, J Young
burst into the room and exclaimed:
Once again, the RCC is in the forefront in the battle to protect women
Except that they support keeping prostitution illegal which is a damn
handy tool for oppressing women...
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Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
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18 Jul 2005 12:28:48 AM |
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J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Once again, the RCC is in the forefront in the battle to protect women
from the evils of liberal feminism.
In the same way that slaveowners "protected" their property.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Jenny6833A" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican: Punish clients of prostitution |
18 Jul 2005 06:49:05 AM |
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J Young quotes:
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/world/20050711-1847-vatican-prostitution.html
Vatican: Punish clients of prostitution, pass laws to protect women
from 'slavery'
VATICAN CITY - The Vatican called Monday for laws that punish clients
of prostitutes as well as laws to protect women from what it called a
"modern form of slavery."
Here we have the usual patently false assertion that all prostitution
is involuntary and thus slavery.
The recommendations stemmed from a two-day symposium on prostitution
and human trafficking the Vatican's office for migrants and itinerants
hosted in June.
Once again, all prostitution is falsely equated to human trafficking.
In the document, the Vatican called for the clients of prostitutes to
be punished, since they fuel the industry.
As if this isn't already done in most countries.
In addition, women forced into prostitution must be protected by the
law because they are victims of violence and exploitation and have had
their fundamental human rights violated, it said.
Anyone forced into anything should be protected by the law. The
handwringing about prostitution is just more Vatican posturing.
"Prostitution is a modern form of slavery," it said, ...
Here we go again! Not a word that recognises that prostitution can be
and often is a totally voluntary choice.
... adding that
prostitution and human trafficking were both acts of violence against
women.
So they say -- without qualification and without an iota of support.
Laws should ensure that ALL forms of work are voluntary chosen.
Laws should also ensure that recruitment into ANY form of work is
honest: i.e., that the job exists and that the conditions of employment
are accurately described.
I'm particularly amused, and sourly so, by the term 'human
trafficking.' It's only applied to recruitment for jobs the Vatican
doesn't like. It's OK to tell an unemployed individual in a poor
country that comparatively well paying jobs as mason apprentices (back
breaking hard work that reduces longevity) exist in a rich country and
to finance the individual's relocation. But if the job is something
the moralists don't like, well then it's 'human trafficking.'
The whole article is bullpucky, as was J. Young's introduction.
Pfffffffffffffffffttttt!!!
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Jenny
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| User: "osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Vatican: Punish clients of prostitution |
18 Jul 2005 09:06:51 AM |
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J Young wrote:
Once again, the RCC is in the forefront in the battle to protect women
from the evils of liberal feminism. No doubt those arrested as johns
identify themselves as egalitarians; always ready to defend these
women's rights to "support themselves and explore their sexuality". The
Catholic Church cares for women, physically, spiritually, and
emotionally. Dignity is a right, prostitution isn't. Prosecute these
customers to fullest extent of the law.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/world/20050711-1847-vatican-prostitution.html
Vatican: Punish clients of prostitution, pass laws to protect women
from 'slavery'
VATICAN CITY - The Vatican called Monday for laws that punish clients
of prostitutes as well as laws to protect women from what it called a
"modern form of slavery."
The recommendations stemmed from a two-day symposium on prostitution
and human trafficking the Vatican's office for migrants and itinerants
hosted in June.
In the document, the Vatican called for the clients of prostitutes to
be punished, since they fuel the industry.
In addition, women forced into prostitution must be protected by the
law because they are victims of violence and exploitation and have had
their fundamental human rights violated, it said.
"Prostitution is a modern form of slavery," it said, adding that
prostitution and human trafficking were both acts of violence against
women.
Working in corrections and working in a receiving room, I have seen
hundreds of prostitutes come through. They do not look like the kind
of women you see on the T.V.. Most of them are drug addicts, heroine
is one of the drugs of choice. Most of them are nasty, they talk
nasty, they act nasty...that's the only word I can think of..nasty.
Some of them do want help but don't know where to go.
One of the biggest problems are the men who pay for sex. They have no
idea what they are contributing too. Often times their money is cycled
into organized crime and drugs.
If anything, we should be trying to help these women get off the
streets and get off the drugs.
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