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04 May 2005 10:11:15 AM |
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Wal-Mart Bows to Unions, Copies GM Success Formula |
Wal-Mart Stores today surrendered to pressure from labor unions to increase
hourly pay for its workers, and began a new corporate campaign to emulate
the historical success of the U.S. auto industry.
"Our union critics were right," said H. Lee Scott Jr., Wal-Mart's chief
executive, "We have an obligation to behave like General Motors did in the
1960s. And we've come to believe that the discount retail industry is primed
for a chain that pays high wages to create the perception of high value
through high-priced products. In addition, our focus groups indicate that
Wal-Mart customers yearn for the emotional payoff that comes from providing
bigger paychecks to the folks in the blue vests."
As part of the reengineering of the company, Wal-Mart will change its slogan
from 'Always Low Prices' to 'Always Union Wages'. Prices will be marked up
throughout the store, and many products will receive stickers indicating
their higher perceived value with words like 'deluxe,' 'grand' and 'limited
edition'.
In the short-term, analysts said that investors can expect to see their
$48/share Wal-Mart stock (WMT) "level out" around $3 and then begin its
upward climb as the store reestablishes its brand identity as the place
where Americans shop to provide higher-wage jobs for less fortunate
Americans.
"The unions have helped us to understand that we've been looking at the
retailing business backward for 50 years," the CEO said. "We mistakenly
thought it was all about providing a good selection at the lowest prices so
people would shop with us. But what customers really want is the good
feeling they get by providing a higher living standard for cashiers, shelf
stockers and people greeters. Clearly, our primary responsibility is to pay
higher wages so that our workers can afford our subsequently higher prices,
or at least be able to buy from other retailers that pay their employees
less."
Mr. Scott painted a visionary picture of the new progressive Wal-Mart.
"When our typical shopper pushes her cart full of 'Deluxe Tide' and 'Limited
Edition Pampers' out the door, she'll smile when she sees our Wal-Mart
Associates' parking area filled with late-model GM trucks and SUVs. Ain't
that America?"
http://www.scrappleface.com/MT/archives/002181.html
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| User: "turk" |
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04 May 2005 10:53:21 AM |
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"Maaxx" <maaxx@xrs.net> wrote in message
news:ngkrw2f9u0s8.dlg@sec12-astroblaster.pepsi.com...
Wal-Mart Stores today surrendered to pressure from labor unions to
increase
hourly pay for its workers, and began a new corporate campaign to emulate
the historical success of the U.S. auto industry.
"Our union critics were right," said H. Lee Scott Jr., Wal-Mart's chief
executive, "We have an obligation to behave like General Motors did in the
1960s. And we've come to believe that the discount retail industry is
primed
for a chain that pays high wages to create the perception of high value
through high-priced products. In addition, our focus groups indicate that
Wal-Mart customers yearn for the emotional payoff that comes from
providing
bigger paychecks to the folks in the blue vests."
As part of the reengineering of the company, Wal-Mart will change its
slogan
from 'Always Low Prices' to 'Always Union Wages'. Prices will be marked up
throughout the store, and many products will receive stickers indicating
their higher perceived value with words like 'deluxe,' 'grand' and
'limited
edition'.
In the short-term, analysts said that investors can expect to see their
$48/share Wal-Mart stock (WMT) "level out" around $3 and then begin its
upward climb as the store reestablishes its brand identity as the place
where Americans shop to provide higher-wage jobs for less fortunate
Americans.
"The unions have helped us to understand that we've been looking at the
retailing business backward for 50 years," the CEO said. "We mistakenly
thought it was all about providing a good selection at the lowest prices
so
people would shop with us. But what customers really want is the good
feeling they get by providing a higher living standard for cashiers, shelf
stockers and people greeters. Clearly, our primary responsibility is to
pay
higher wages so that our workers can afford our subsequently higher
prices,
or at least be able to buy from other retailers that pay their employees
less."
Mr. Scott painted a visionary picture of the new progressive Wal-Mart.
"When our typical shopper pushes her cart full of 'Deluxe Tide' and
'Limited
Edition Pampers' out the door, she'll smile when she sees our Wal-Mart
Associates' parking area filled with late-model GM trucks and SUVs. Ain't
that America?"
Yeah, because making CEOs more money is so much more important than paying a
living wage. It's ok for a good old-fashioned profit-mongering billionaire
to want to squeeze a few more pennies out of the work force, but that
Wal-Mart employee making $8 an hour is just being a greedy ***** if he
wants a $1 raise. All so you can save an extra 50 cents on that wheelbarrow
made in Thailand. You're too fucking stupid to realize you make that up and
more in taxes to supplement their workers' health care because they don't
provide enough.
Idiot.
turk
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"As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely,
the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great
and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire
at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron." - H. L.
Mencken, in the Baltimore Sun, July 26, 1920.
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| User: "Maaxx" |
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| Title: Re: Wal-Mart Bows to Unions, Copies GM Success Formula |
04 May 2005 12:36:09 PM |
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"turk" <turk96@comcast.net> wrote in
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Yeah, because making CEOs more money is so much more important than
paying a living wage.
You actually expect to make a minimum wage as a cashier? BWAHAHAHA!
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| User: "Greg Bernath" |
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04 May 2005 08:30:18 PM |
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Maaxx <maaxx@xrs.net> wrote:
You actually expect to make a minimum wage as a cashier? BWAHAHAHA!
If that cashier works at Costco, she'll make a hell of a lot more than
minimum wage. And get good benefits too.
And Costco wipes the floor with Sam's Club in terms of profits per
store. Funny how businesses prosper when they treat their employees
well.
The "shrinkage" (employee theft) rate at WalMart is atrocious. It's
very small at Costco. Now why would that be? Employee turnover is also
atrocious at WalMart, tiny at Costco. If I was a conservative, I'd be
unable to figure out why, so I'd blame the Clenis.
Good thing Costco doesn't listen to conservatives tell them how to run
a successful business. Conservatives believe that Walmart, the
ultimate welfare queen of a corporation, is the successful business
model that all of America should emulate.
Greg Bernath
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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04 May 2005 10:35:10 AM |
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Maaxx <maaxx@xrs.net> wrote:
Wal-Mart Stores today surrendered to pressure from labor unions to increase
hourly pay for its workers, and began a new corporate campaign to emulate
the historical success of the U.S. auto industry.
The usual idiotic worship of the rich.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "GreyCloud" |
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04 May 2005 11:54:10 AM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
Maaxx <maaxx@xrs.net> wrote:
Wal-Mart Stores today surrendered to pressure from labor unions to increase
hourly pay for its workers, and began a new corporate campaign to emulate
the historical success of the U.S. auto industry.
The usual idiotic worship of the rich.
Yet you are the dumb ***** that hasn't figured out how to get
rich.
You're just jealous of those that are rich, loser.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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04 May 2005 03:35:39 PM |
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GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Maaxx <maaxx@xrs.net> wrote:
Wal-Mart Stores today surrendered to pressure from labor unions to increase
hourly pay for its workers, and began a new corporate campaign to emulate
the historical success of the U.S. auto industry.
The usual idiotic worship of the rich.
Yet you are the dumb ***** that hasn't figured out how to get
rich.
How would you know, *****? You haven't the first clue what my net
worth might be.
You're just jealous of those that are rich, loser.
You're a dumbshit who wants to give your money to people who are
already rich.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "GreyCloud" |
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05 May 2005 10:16:29 AM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Maaxx <maaxx@xrs.net> wrote:
Wal-Mart Stores today surrendered to pressure from labor unions to increase
hourly pay for its workers, and began a new corporate campaign to emulate
the historical success of the U.S. auto industry.
The usual idiotic worship of the rich.
Yet you are the dumb ***** that hasn't figured out how to get
rich.
How would you know, *****? You haven't the first clue what my net
worth might be.
Guffaw!! You already have stated that you want to save
social security.
Your net worth is near poor, as that is what SS is for.
You're just jealous of those that are rich, loser.
You're a dumbshit who wants to give your money to people who are
already rich.
The rich got rich by being smart, dipshit.
They sure didn't get their money from tossers like you.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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05 May 2005 10:18:42 PM |
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GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Maaxx <maaxx@xrs.net> wrote:
Wal-Mart Stores today surrendered to pressure from labor unions to increase
hourly pay for its workers, and began a new corporate campaign to emulate
the historical success of the U.S. auto industry.
The usual idiotic worship of the rich.
Yet you are the dumb ***** that hasn't figured out how to get
rich.
How would you know, *****? You haven't the first clue what my net
worth might be.
Guffaw!! You already have stated that you want to save
social security.
That's because I'm not as stupid as you are.
Your net worth is near poor, as that is what SS is for.
Wrong, *****. SS is to make sure that other people save some money
for retirement so that they won't end up dependant upon my tax dollars.
You're just jealous of those that are rich, loser.
You're a dumbshit who wants to give your money to people who are
already rich.
The rich got rich by being smart, dipshit.
Saddam was smart, *****?
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Liam Slider" |
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06 May 2005 12:31:10 PM |
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On Fri, 06 May 2005 03:18:42 +0000, Ray Fischer wrote:
You're just jealous of those that are rich, loser.
You're a dumbshit who wants to give your money to people who are
already rich.
The rich got rich by being smart, dipshit.
Saddam was smart, *****?
No, Saddam was a street thug (check out his history, that's how he started
out. A common street punk), who used streetz thug tactics to murder,
torture, and steal his way to the top.
Rich people in civilized countries do not usually get rich that way, and
the few who do (drug lords, big time gangsters, and such), they usually
end up murdered or arrested for their criminal activity.
Oh wait, that's what has happened to Saddam too...in essense.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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06 May 2005 11:23:09 PM |
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Liam Slider <liam@nospam.liamslider.com> wrote:
On Fri, 06 May 2005 03:18:42 +0000, Ray Fischer wrote:
You're just jealous of those that are rich, loser.
You're a dumbshit who wants to give your money to people who are
already rich.
The rich got rich by being smart, dipshit.
Saddam was smart, *****?
No, Saddam was a street thug (check out his history, that's how he started
out. A common street punk), who used streetz thug tactics to murder,
torture, and steal his way to the top.
Rich people in civilized countries do not usually get rich that way, and
the few who do (drug lords, big time gangsters, and such), they usually
end up murdered or arrested for their criminal activity.
Smirk. Lessee, Gates is the richest person in the world, but he's
certainly not the smartest. In fact he got rich by running an illegal
monopoly and by gaming the system.
And he's still rich.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "GreyCloud" |
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07 May 2005 01:13:51 PM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
Liam Slider <liam@nospam.liamslider.com> wrote:
On Fri, 06 May 2005 03:18:42 +0000, Ray Fischer wrote:
You're just jealous of those that are rich, loser.
You're a dumbshit who wants to give your money to people who are
already rich.
The rich got rich by being smart, dipshit.
Saddam was smart, *****?
No, Saddam was a street thug (check out his history, that's how he started
out. A common street punk), who used streetz thug tactics to murder,
torture, and steal his way to the top.
Rich people in civilized countries do not usually get rich that way, and
the few who do (drug lords, big time gangsters, and such), they usually
end up murdered or arrested for their criminal activity.
Smirk. Lessee, Gates is the richest person in the world, but he's
certainly not the smartest. In fact he got rich by running an illegal
monopoly and by gaming the system.
And he's still rich.
And so are the industrial leaders that steer the helm. They
make sure products are manufactured and delivered to you at
a competitive cost. So, what have you done to get rich??
Most likely just whined about not getting enough handouts.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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07 May 2005 02:27:35 PM |
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GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Liam Slider <liam@nospam.liamslider.com> wrote:
On Fri, 06 May 2005 03:18:42 +0000, Ray Fischer wrote:
You're just jealous of those that are rich, loser.
You're a dumbshit who wants to give your money to people who are
already rich.
The rich got rich by being smart, dipshit.
Saddam was smart, *****?
No, Saddam was a street thug (check out his history, that's how he started
out. A common street punk), who used streetz thug tactics to murder,
torture, and steal his way to the top.
Rich people in civilized countries do not usually get rich that way, and
the few who do (drug lords, big time gangsters, and such), they usually
end up murdered or arrested for their criminal activity.
Smirk. Lessee, Gates is the richest person in the world, but he's
certainly not the smartest. In fact he got rich by running an illegal
monopoly and by gaming the system.
And he's still rich.
And so are the industrial leaders that steer the helm. They
make sure products are manufactured and delivered to you at
a competitive cost.
Wrong. By law public corporations look out for the interests of the
stockholders. If that means jacking up the price of goods, firing
workers, shipping jobs overseas, and crushing competition then that's
what they do.
And even when they are failures they still leave with tens of millions
of dollars.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Liam Slider" |
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07 May 2005 07:12:41 PM |
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On Sat, 07 May 2005 19:27:35 +0000, Ray Fischer wrote:
If that means jacking up the price of goods
Show how such "jacking up the price of goods" is common in cases except
where the cause can be tracked to general inflation.
, firing
workers,
Or hiring workers?
shipping jobs overseas,
Then using the profits to expand domestically? Virtually every
"outsourcer" does this.
and crushing competition
So long as they don't do it using illegal tactics such as extortion,
blackmail, fraud, theft, etc...
then that's
what they do.
Uh huh. You read some strange fiction.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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07 May 2005 08:26:36 PM |
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Liam Slider <liam@nospam.liamslider.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
If that means jacking up the price of goods
Show how such "jacking up the price of goods" is common in cases except
where the cause can be tracked to general inflation.
Do you know what a "profit margin" is? Corporate execs are required
to maximize profit.
, firing
workers,
Or hiring workers?
Not lately.
shipping jobs overseas,
Then using the profits to expand domestically?
No, using the profits to pay execs and shareholders.
Virtually every
"outsourcer" does this.
LOL! Sucker.
and crushing competition
So long as they don't do it using illegal tactics such as extortion,
blackmail, fraud, theft, etc...
then that's
what they do.
Uh huh. You read some strange fiction.
You're idiotic refusal to accept reality it typical of the
conservative sucker. You cannot face the fact that your corporate
masters don't give a ***** about you.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Liam Slider" |
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08 May 2005 12:17:19 AM |
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On Sun, 08 May 2005 01:26:36 +0000, Ray Fischer wrote:
Liam Slider <liam@nospam.liamslider.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
If that means jacking up the price of goods
Show how such "jacking up the price of goods" is common in cases except
where the cause can be tracked to general inflation.
Do you know what a "profit margin" is? Corporate execs are required
to maximize profit.
Oh so making a profit is considered "jacking up the price of goods."
What a fucking communist you are!
, firing
workers,
Or hiring workers?
Not lately.
*****.
shipping jobs overseas,
Then using the profits to expand domestically?
No, using the profits to pay execs and shareholders.
And expand their domestic operations. Large companies must strive to
expand their operations and continue to grow...or they will die.
Capitalism is a selective environment, this demands expansion and growth.
It's in the best long term interest of the shareholders...and their
profits.
Virtually every
"outsourcer" does this.
LOL! Sucker.
and crushing competition
So long as they don't do it using illegal tactics such as extortion,
blackmail, fraud, theft, etc...
then that's
what they do.
Uh huh. You read some strange fiction.
You're idiotic refusal to accept reality it typical of the
conservative sucker.
I'm not conservative. Merely not a socialist, nor a communist. I'm a
capitalist...unlike you.
You cannot face the fact that your corporate
masters don't give a ***** about you.
Of course corporations don't care about *me* it's not required that they
do.
But guess what, your idealised neo-hippie (but not real hippie, since they
hated authority) government doesn't care about you either.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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08 May 2005 12:47:31 AM |
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Liam Slider <liam@nospam.liamslider.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Liam Slider <liam@nospam.liamslider.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
If that means jacking up the price of goods
Show how such "jacking up the price of goods" is common in cases except
where the cause can be tracked to general inflation.
Do you know what a "profit margin" is? Corporate execs are required
to maximize profit.
Oh so making a profit is considered "jacking up the price of goods."
What a fucking communist you are!
What a moron you are. You still don't like the fact the corporations
are not your friends.
, firing
workers,
Or hiring workers?
Not lately.
*****.
Last I checked, jobs are down and waages are down even though
productivity is way up.
Do you know what it means when productivity is way up and wages are
down?
It means that you are getting screwed.
shipping jobs overseas,
Then using the profits to expand domestically?
No, using the profits to pay execs and shareholders.
And expand their domestic operations.
They're not.
Large companies must strive to
expand their operations and continue to grow...or they will die.
US automakers (for example) are expanding into Canada where their
health care costs are much lower. Textiles have nearly disappeared
from US manufacturing. The list goes on.
Capitalism is a selective environment, this demands expansion and growth.
It's in the best long term interest of the shareholders...and their
profits.
And it's NOT in the long term interest of American workers.
then that's
what they do.
Uh huh. You read some strange fiction.
You're idiotic refusal to accept reality it typical of the
conservative sucker.
I'm not conservative. Merely not a socialist, nor a communist. I'm a
capitalist...unlike you.
You're a sucker.
Unrestrained capitalism concentrates wealth. That means that the rich
get richer and everybody else ends up poor.
You cannot face the fact that your corporate
masters don't give a ***** about you.
Of course corporations don't care about *me* it's not required that they
do.
But guess what, your idealised neo-hippie (but not real hippie, since they
hated authority) government doesn't care about you either.
I vote. I even try to educate suckers like you.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Liam Slider" |
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08 May 2005 02:57:17 PM |
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On Sun, 08 May 2005 05:47:31 +0000, Ray Fischer wrote:
Liam Slider <liam@nospam.liamslider.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Liam Slider <liam@nospam.liamslider.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
If that means jacking up the price of goods
Show how such "jacking up the price of goods" is common in cases except
where the cause can be tracked to general inflation.
Do you know what a "profit margin" is? Corporate execs are required
to maximize profit.
Oh so making a profit is considered "jacking up the price of goods."
What a fucking communist you are!
What a moron you are. You still don't like the fact the corporations
are not your friends.
They don't need to be my friends for the system to work. You touchy feely
leftists are always demanding friendship (what you really mean is someone
to take advantage of) from places it isn't needed.
, firing
workers,
Or hiring workers?
Not lately.
*****.
Last I checked, jobs are down and waages are down even though
productivity is way up.
Global trend, global trend since the beginning of capitalism....greater
automation, reducing the number of people needed for manufacturing jobs.
Now it is getting to a rather...extreme point, and in the near future is
like to get to an insanely extreme point....but that's a good thing. Yes,
at this point it means out economy has to adapt to the change in a new
way, there are revolutions happening, manufacturing is on the way out as a
jobs provider.
We are just in a transition period.
Do you know what it means when productivity is way up and wages are
down?
It means that you are getting screwed.
It means that stuff is getting cheaper.
shipping jobs overseas,
Then using the profits to expand domestically?
No, using the profits to pay execs and shareholders.
And expand their domestic operations.
They're not.
Yes they do. *And* you ignore the fact that the US is one of the
countries that benefits the most from outsourcing....in that other
countries outsource jobs here. Canada does, many European countries do.
Even manufacturing jobs.
Large companies must strive to
expand their operations and continue to grow...or they will die.
US automakers (for example) are expanding into Canada where their health
care costs are much lower.
Yes, that would explain why I keep hearing about new plants opening up
here in the states...
Textiles have nearly disappeared
from US manufacturing.
It's not a competitive industry. Hell, look at your history, it's the
first industry that got industrialised. And the people didn't even require
any real training, even children were used as labor. Hell, I bet you could
train chimps to do it (not that I'd condone that). It's simply not a
competitive industry with US labor prices.
However, while this ancient industry disappeared, new industries appeared
to take it's place.
The list goes on.
Capitalism is a selective environment, this demands expansion and
growth. It's in the best long term interest of the shareholders...and
their profits.
And it's NOT in the long term interest of American workers.
Idiot.
then that's
what they do.
Uh huh. You read some strange fiction.
You're idiotic refusal to accept reality it typical of the
conservative sucker.
I'm not conservative. Merely not a socialist, nor a communist. I'm a
capitalist...unlike you.
You're a sucker.
Unrestrained capitalism concentrates wealth. That means that the rich
get richer and everybody else ends up poor.
Then why is it that the largest single demographic is....the middle class?
They outnumber the poor by a fairly large number....and growing. Wait,
growing? That can't be right according to what you said. That would mean
your hippie-vision is wrong!
You cannot face the fact that your corporate masters don't give a *****
about you.
Of course corporations don't care about *me* it's not required that they
do.
But guess what, your idealised neo-hippie (but not real hippie, since
they hated authority) government doesn't care about you either.
I vote.
Yes, so do I. I tend to vote for where people are trying to actually make
a real change though.
I even try to educate suckers like you.
You need some education yourself first.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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08 May 2005 03:09:34 PM |
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Liam Slider <liam@nospam.liamslider.com> wrote:
On Sun, 08 May 2005 05:47:31 +0000, Ray Fischer wrote:
Liam Slider <liam@nospam.liamslider.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Liam Slider <liam@nospam.liamslider.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
If that means jacking up the price of goods
Show how such "jacking up the price of goods" is common in cases except
where the cause can be tracked to general inflation.
Do you know what a "profit margin" is? Corporate execs are required
to maximize profit.
Oh so making a profit is considered "jacking up the price of goods."
What a fucking communist you are!
What a moron you are. You still don't like the fact the corporations
are not your friends.
They don't need to be my friends for the system to work. You touchy feely
leftists are always demanding friendship (what you really mean is someone
You're such a stupid ***** bigot that you're incapable of doing
anything but fart your worship of the wealthy.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "GreyCloud" |
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| Title: Re: Wal-Mart Bows to Unions, Copies GM Success Formula |
08 May 2005 11:39:31 AM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
Liam Slider <liam@nospam.liamslider.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
If that means jacking up the price of goods
Show how such "jacking up the price of goods" is common in cases except
where the cause can be tracked to general inflation.
Do you know what a "profit margin" is? Corporate execs are required
to maximize profit.
, firing
workers,
Or hiring workers?
Not lately.
shipping jobs overseas,
Then using the profits to expand domestically?
No, using the profits to pay execs and shareholders.
Virtually every
"outsourcer" does this.
LOL! Sucker.
and crushing competition
So long as they don't do it using illegal tactics such as extortion,
blackmail, fraud, theft, etc...
then that's
what they do.
Uh huh. You read some strange fiction.
You're idiotic refusal to accept reality it typical of the
conservative sucker. You cannot face the fact that your corporate
masters don't give a ***** about you.
Why should they give a ***** about dumb apes like you?
What have you done to earn your keep, ape-boy??
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Wal-Mart Bows to Unions, Copies GM Success Formula |
08 May 2005 12:43:10 PM |
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GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
You're idiotic refusal to accept reality it typical of the
conservative sucker. You cannot face the fact that your corporate
masters don't give a ***** about you.
Why should they give a ***** about dumb apes like you?
That's the point, moron.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Liam Slider" |
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| Title: Re: Wal-Mart Bows to Unions, Copies GM Success Formula |
08 May 2005 04:13:45 PM |
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On Sun, 08 May 2005 17:43:10 +0000, Ray Fischer wrote:
GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
You're idiotic refusal to accept reality it typical of the
conservative sucker. You cannot face the fact that your corporate
masters don't give a ***** about you.
Why should they give a ***** about dumb apes like you?
That's the point, moron.
Our society is a meritocracy. If nobody cares about you, what does that
say about you Ray?
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Wal-Mart Bows to Unions, Copies GM Success Formula |
08 May 2005 08:19:30 PM |
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Liam Slider <liam@nospam.liamslider.com> wrote:
On Sun, 08 May 2005 17:43:10 +0000, Ray Fischer wrote:
GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
You're idiotic refusal to accept reality it typical of the
conservative sucker. You cannot face the fact that your corporate
masters don't give a ***** about you.
Why should they give a ***** about dumb apes like you?
That's the point, moron.
Our society is a meritocracy. If nobody cares about you, what does that
say about you Ray?
Why are you right-wingers such illiterate morons?
Never mind. Answered my own question.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Liam Slider" |
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| Title: Re: Wal-Mart Bows to Unions, Copies GM Success Formula |
08 May 2005 08:41:22 PM |
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On Mon, 09 May 2005 01:19:30 +0000, Ray Fischer wrote:
Liam Slider <liam@nospam.liamslider.com> wrote:
On Sun, 08 May 2005 17:43:10 +0000, Ray Fischer wrote:
GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
You're idiotic refusal to accept reality it typical of the
conservative sucker. You cannot face the fact that your corporate
masters don't give a ***** about you.
Why should they give a ***** about dumb apes like you?
That's the point, moron.
Our society is a meritocracy. If nobody cares about you, what does that
say about you Ray?
Why are you right-wingers such illiterate morons?
What right-winger? I don't see a right-winger in this conversation Ray.
Also, how could I be illiterate....and respond to you. This is a text
based medium. Clearly, your stupidity is showing here Ray.
Never mind. Answered my own question.
Are you sure about that Ray?
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| User: "GreyCloud" |
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| Title: Re: Wal-Mart Bows to Unions, Copies GM Success Formula |
09 May 2005 11:18:01 AM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
You're idiotic refusal to accept reality it typical of the
conservative sucker. You cannot face the fact that your corporate
masters don't give a ***** about you.
Why should they give a ***** about dumb apes like you?
That's the point, moron.
So you really are an ape then. It figures. Now,... who is
your zookeeper??
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| User: "GreyCloud" |
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| Title: Re: Wal-Mart Bows to Unions, Copies GM Success Formula |
08 May 2005 11:38:19 AM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Liam Slider <liam@nospam.liamslider.com> wrote:
On Fri, 06 May 2005 03:18:42 +0000, Ray Fischer wrote:
You're just jealous of those that are rich, loser.
You're a dumbshit who wants to give your money to people who are
already rich.
The rich got rich by being smart, dipshit.
Saddam was smart, *****?
No, Saddam was a street thug (check out his history, that's how he started
out. A common street punk), who used streetz thug tactics to murder,
torture, and steal his way to the top.
Rich people in civilized countries do not usually get rich that way, and
the few who do (drug lords, big time gangsters, and such), they usually
end up murdered or arrested for their criminal activity.
Smirk. Lessee, Gates is the richest person in the world, but he's
certainly not the smartest. In fact he got rich by running an illegal
monopoly and by gaming the system.
And he's still rich.
And so are the industrial leaders that steer the helm. They
make sure products are manufactured and delivered to you at
a competitive cost.
Wrong. By law public corporations look out for the interests of the
stockholders. If that means jacking up the price of goods, firing
workers, shipping jobs overseas, and crushing competition then that's
what they do.
And how do they make money then?? By selling their goods,
moron.
If they don't sell, they don't stay afloat very long. And
they need monkeys like you to buy their wares.
It is called "The System".
And even when they are failures they still leave with tens of millions
of dollars.
Of course, because they are smart enough to do so. So why
ain't you rich, Ray???
If you were rich, you wouldn't need SS at all. SS is for
the stupid and poor.
Before the communist Roosevelt, there wasn't any SS and yet
this country did just fine.
It is communist whiners like you that need full guidance in
your day to day living.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Wal-Mart Bows to Unions, Copies GM Success Formula |
08 May 2005 12:43:36 PM |
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GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Liam Slider <liam@nospam.liamslider.com> wrote:
On Fri, 06 May 2005 03:18:42 +0000, Ray Fischer wrote:
You're just jealous of those that are rich, loser.
You're a dumbshit who wants to give your money to people who are
already rich.
The rich got rich by being smart, dipshit.
Saddam was smart, *****?
No, Saddam was a street thug (check out his history, that's how he started
out. A common street punk), who used streetz thug tactics to murder,
torture, and steal his way to the top.
Rich people in civilized countries do not usually get rich that way, and
the few who do (drug lords, big time gangsters, and such), they usually
end up murdered or arrested for their criminal activity.
Smirk. Lessee, Gates is the richest person in the world, but he's
certainly not the smartest. In fact he got rich by running an illegal
monopoly and by gaming the system.
And he's still rich.
And so are the industrial leaders that steer the helm. They
make sure products are manufactured and delivered to you at
a competitive cost.
Wrong. By law public corporations look out for the interests of the
stockholders. If that means jacking up the price of goods, firing
workers, shipping jobs overseas, and crushing competition then that's
what they do.
And how do they make money then?? By selling their goods,
moron.
And not by paying workers.
That's a clue.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "GreyCloud" |
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| Title: Re: Wal-Mart Bows to Unions, Copies GM Success Formula |
09 May 2005 11:19:11 AM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote:
Liam Slider <liam@nospam.liamslider.com> wrote:
On Fri, 06 May 2005 03:18:42 +0000, Ray Fischer wrote:
You're just jealous of those that are rich, loser.
You're a dumbshit who wants to give your money to people who are
already rich.
The rich got rich by being smart, dipshit.
Saddam was smart, *****?
No, Saddam was a street thug (check out his history, that's how he started
out. A common street punk), who used streetz thug tactics to murder,
torture, and steal his way to the top.
Rich people in civilized countries do not usually get rich that way, and
the few who do (drug lords, big time gangsters, and such), they usually
end up murdered or arrested for their criminal activity.
Smirk. Lessee, Gates is the richest person in the world, but he's
certainly not the smartest. In fact he got rich by running an illegal
monopoly and by gaming the system.
And he's still rich.
And so are the industrial leaders that steer the helm. They
make sure products are manufactured and delivered to you at
a competitive cost.
Wrong. By law public corporations look out for the interests of the
stockholders. If that means jacking up the price of goods, firing
workers, shipping jobs overseas, and crushing competition then that's
what they do.
And how do they make money then?? By selling their goods,
moron.
And not by paying workers.
Guffaw!! They always get paid, you liar.
That's a clue.
Yes, a clue that you are a lying communist.
Got anymore group or hive think garbage??
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| User: "GreyCloud" |
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| Title: Re: Wal-Mart Bows to Unions, Copies GM Success Formula |
06 May 2005 04:58:42 PM |
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Liam Slider wrote:
On Fri, 06 May 2005 03:18:42 +0000, Ray Fischer wrote:
You're just jealous of those that are rich, loser.
You're a dumbshit who wants to give your money to people who are
already rich.
The rich got rich by being smart, dipshit.
Saddam was smart, *****?
No, Saddam was a street thug (check out his history, that's how he started
out. A common street punk), who used streetz thug tactics to murder,
torture, and steal his way to the top.
Rich people in civilized countries do not usually get rich that way, and
the few who do (drug lords, big time gangsters, and such), they usually
end up murdered or arrested for their criminal activity.
Oh wait, that's what has happened to Saddam too...in essense.
Funny how Ray equates the Rich with Saddam. A very deluded
idiot that has both feet firmly planted in the air.
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| User: "James Chamblee" |
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| Title: Re: Wal-Mart Bows to Unions, Copies GM Success Formula |
06 May 2005 06:44:15 AM |
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Ray Fischer at wrote on 5/5/05 11:18 PM:
GreyCloud:
Guffaw!! You already have stated that you want to save
social security.
That's because I'm not as stupid as you are.
Your net worth is near poor, as that is what SS is for.
That is the most uninformed comment on S.S. that has ever been made, and
reflects a myopic view of a social safety net.
Wrong, *****. SS is to make sure that other people save some money
for retirement so that they won't end up dependant upon my tax dollars.
Great response.
You're just jealous of those that are rich, loser.
You're a dumbshit who wants to give your money to people who are
already rich.
The rich got rich by being smart, dipshit.
Another very stupid remark.
The wealthy CLAIM that they got rich because they are smart, the truth is
that Luck plays a much greater role.
Ninety percent of American businesses go belly-up every ten years.
George Bush, for example, was never successful in business, depending
instead on his father's buddies to bail him out ever time he screwed up.
Saddam was smart, *****?
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| User: "GreyCloud" |
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| Title: Re: Wal-Mart Bows to Unions, Copies GM Success Formula |
06 May 2005 04:57:38 PM |
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James Chamblee wrote:
Ray Fischer at wrote on 5/5/05 11:18 PM:
GreyCloud:
Guffaw!! You already have stated that you want to save
social security.
That's because I'm not as stupid as you are.
Your net worth is near poor, as that is what SS is for.
That is the most uninformed comment on S.S. that has ever been made, and
reflects a myopic view of a social safety net.
Your stupidity is amazing about what SS is all about.
Keep believing in it and the tooth fairy.
Wrong, *****. SS is to make sure that other people save some money
for retirement so that they won't end up dependant upon my tax dollars.
Great response.
Dumb assumption that is very dangerous to your own welfare.
Take responsibility for your own retirement. You act like
the proverbial zoo animal that is dependent on the zoo
keeper.
You're just jealous of those that are rich, loser.
You're a dumbshit who wants to give your money to people who are
already rich.
The rich got rich by being smart, dipshit.
Another very stupid remark.
Yet another facist moron that hasn't read his history yet.
Go see Roosevelts history and remarks about social security,
before you make yourself look the fool that you seem to be.
The wealthy CLAIM that they got rich because they are smart, the truth is
that Luck plays a much greater role.
*****. Another stupid statement. Are you rich,
sherlock? I doubt it.
The rich got rich because they had drive to get up off their
***** and thought it out.
What if you got a bright idea and marketed it?? Then you
got rich??
Then what, einstein?? Gonna give it all away because some
facist idiot told you to??
Ninety percent of American businesses go belly-up every ten years.
Now go tell that to Wally Wal-mart, Bill Gates, etc.
And no less you most likely paid for Billys' operating
system too.
George Bush, for example, was never successful in business, depending
instead on his father's buddies to bail him out ever time he screwed up.
And that has to do with what??
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