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In article <7943568.0401161918.70d3ada3@posting.google.com>,

Well, perhaps you can show me a mistake in the book of Isaiah.

Since you claim the book of Isaiah is true, the onus is on you to
show proof of your claim. Citing another passage from Isaiah or
elsewhere in the Bible does not constitute acceptable proof.

Well, you could say the same thing about the sun coming up in the
morning.

So, now you try and justify your circular reasoning with illogical
reasoning.

The fact that the sun is in the sky does not prove that it
is really there. That would be circular reasoning.

Nope, science has proven the sun exists. And, you can't prove the
Bible to be true by quoting more and more scripture from it. Based on
your logic, I can prove that Peter Pan exists by quoting from the
storybook of Peter Pan. Surely you can see that this it totally
ILLOGICAL. Or, maybe you just like to try and deceive people by
making things up to justify your babbling.

Robert b. winn

Peter Pan is a work of fiction. Isaiah is non-fiction.

Proof? Oh, you don't have any except to quote the Bible. I quoted
you Peter Pan, and using your logic Peter Pan exists. Don't like it?
Then stop using quotes from the Bible to prove that it's non-fiction.
It doesn't get any simpler than that, however, it doesn't surprise me
that you can't comprehend the concept.

9:14
Therefore, the Lord will cut off from Israel head and tail, branch and
rush, in one day.
Robert B. winn

The person who wrote the work of fiction you refer to never made any
claim that the book was true.

How do you know? And, what _person_ can verify that the Bible is
true?

Isaiah was recognized as a prophet of
God by some people from the time he wrote the book of Isaiah.

"some people"? Ok, I know "some people" who claim they know Peter
Pan, and using your logic, he must exist.

Notice
that by your reasoning, Isaiah's prophecy of the Assyrian conquest of
Israel could not be used to verify the Bible because it is mentioned
in the Bible.

Yep, that's correct. You can't prove the Bible is true by quoting the
Bible, just like I can't make any claims about Peter Pan existing by
quoting Peter Pan.

Weren't you the person who was saying that Hezekiah's
tunnel could not exist because Isaiah wrote about it?

Nope, I never claimed that. Although, I can believe you will now lie
and say I did.

And guess what, there is mention of the ocean in Mobey *****, and since
oceans exist, that must make Mobey ***** true too.

Robert B. Winn

So, in short, you refute your own logic when I say that Peter Pan
exists, but somehow, in your twisted littel mind, you feel that after
refuting your own logic that it's only valid for you to prove the
Bible is true. Interesting, invalid little twist there. I suspect
you see how your logic is invalid but you aren't man enough to admit
it when it comes to your own arguments. Big surprise, coming from a
whackjob such as yourself.

Well, go ahead and study Peter Pan, and I will study Isaiah.

I find it quite humerous that you refute YOUR very own logic but then
argue that it is valid. Irregardless, thanks for proving that YOUR
logic is crap.

Well, Peter Pan may seem very valid to you. It just seems like fiction to me.

Robert B. Winn

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"Robert B. Winn" wrote:

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In article <7943568.0401170521.2808a957@posting.google.com>,
rbwinn47@mybluelight.com (Robert B. Winn) wrote:

LordCo <lordco@lordcokissmyheathenkeistercentre.com> wrote in message
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In article <7943568.0401160618.43fecccc@posting.google.com>, Robert B.
Winn verbally puked the following:

<snip>

Yes, the book of Isaiah is in my Bible. It reads almost word for
word
the same as the Isaiah scrolls found with the Dead Sea scrolls.
Robert B. Winn

I see what you mean. I have this copy of Newsweek on my coffee table,
and I was shocked to find that it reads word for word the same as a
copy
of Newsweek that I saw at the library.

That is amazing. How do you suppose it happened?
Robert B. Winn

I don't know, Bobbo, I just don't know. At first I thought that more
than one copy might have been made, but then I realized that an
explanation like that would be just too easy for a xian like yourself.

Maybe you could ask your God? Or, maybe Isaiah foretold the answer!

I'll leave it in your capable hands.

LordCo

Well, I have given the matter some study, and this is what I think. I
believe that there were numerous copies printed on a printing press.
The printing press was invented by Johann Gutenburg thousands of years
after Isaiah wrote his book.

So? McDonalds has the largest number of restaurant outlets in the world.
That doesn't mean McDonalds has the best food of any restaurant. Quanity
does not equal quality.

Well, but you miss one pertinent fact. All books printed by the same
printing press are the same. Books in Isaiah's time were copied by
hand. There were very few copies of books, and copies could vary
depending on the scribe who made the copy. Notice that there are
numerous versions of the Bible in only one language, English. The
book of Isaiah varies in all of those versions.

So what makes *your* version the right one?

It is as close to right as we have today. It reads word for word with
the Isaiah texts of the Dead Sea Scrolls.