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Science > Abortion |
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"papa jack" |
| Date: |
28 Jun 2004 03:45:34 PM |
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Watch Me in the Womb |
On 28 June, 2004, the BBC posted: "In pictures: Watch me grow."
go to:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/3847319.stm
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1 of 10
At eight weeks gestation, this foetus is able to kick and straighten
his legs, turn them round and move his arms up and down.
2 of 10
At ten weeks gestation, this foetus can move her arms and legs with a
range of movements that are fluid and supple.
3 of 10
At 22 weeks gestation babies are capable of fine hand and finger
movements. In a short space of time this baby scratches, rubs and pats
his cheek before doing the same to his nose.
4 of 10
This foetus exhibits behaviour identical to what he will do after
birth,. If he's held upright on a flat surface he will try and move
forward.
5 of 10
This baby's brain has developed sufficiently to enable him apparently
to sense the other parts of his body. He can bring his fingertips
together so they touch.
6 of 10
From about 24 weeks of pregnancy when retinal development is complete,
babies open and close their eyes intermittently. This helps a baby to
perfect the blinking reflex, which will protect his eyes once he's
born.
7 of 10
Although grasping begins early it becomes better established during
the last trimester. Babies grasp hands, feet, fingers, toes and, most
commonly, their umbilical cords.
8 of 10
While newborns do not smile until 4-6 weeks after birth, babies in the
uterus do. Maybe because the uterus is warm, comfortable, and shielded
from loud noise and bright light.
9 of 10
Foetuses as young as 11 weeks have been seen with their thumbs in
their mouths. This baby started out sucking his smallest toes and
gradually moves on to suck a bigger and better toe.
10 of 10
Babies produce a motion approximating to yawning from as early as 12
weeks' pregnancy. Maybe this is nature's way of ensuring that as soon
as she enters the world, she'll be able to take her first breath.
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| User: "Saint Flower Power" |
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| Title: Re: Watch Me in the Womb |
29 Jun 2004 01:37:01 AM |
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"papa jack" <papajack37@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:bd9f1f6b.0406281245.28d840a9@posting.google.com...
On 28 June, 2004, the BBC posted: "In pictures: Watch me grow."
go to:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/3847319.stm
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So? Animals do the same things in the uterus.
FP.....
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| User: "Bob SD" |
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| Title: Re: Watch Me in the Womb |
28 Jun 2004 05:04:37 PM |
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(papa jack) wrote in
news:bd9f1f6b.0406281245.28d840a9@posting.google.com:
On 28 June, 2004, the BBC posted: "In pictures: Watch me grow."
go to:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/3847319.stm
________________________________________________________________
1 of 10
At eight weeks gestation, this foetus is able to kick and straighten
his legs, turn them round and move his arms up and down.
2 of 10
At ten weeks gestation, this foetus can move her arms and legs with a
range of movements that are fluid and supple.
3 of 10
At 22 weeks gestation babies are capable of fine hand and finger
movements. In a short space of time this baby scratches, rubs and pats
his cheek before doing the same to his nose.
4 of 10
This foetus exhibits behaviour identical to what he will do after
birth,. If he's held upright on a flat surface he will try and move
forward.
5 of 10
This baby's brain has developed sufficiently to enable him apparently
to sense the other parts of his body. He can bring his fingertips
together so they touch.
6 of 10
From about 24 weeks of pregnancy when retinal development is complete,
babies open and close their eyes intermittently. This helps a baby to
perfect the blinking reflex, which will protect his eyes once he's
born.
7 of 10
Although grasping begins early it becomes better established during
the last trimester. Babies grasp hands, feet, fingers, toes and, most
commonly, their umbilical cords.
8 of 10
While newborns do not smile until 4-6 weeks after birth, babies in the
uterus do. Maybe because the uterus is warm, comfortable, and shielded
from loud noise and bright light.
9 of 10
Foetuses as young as 11 weeks have been seen with their thumbs in
their mouths. This baby started out sucking his smallest toes and
gradually moves on to suck a bigger and better toe.
10 of 10
Babies produce a motion approximating to yawning from as early as 12
weeks' pregnancy. Maybe this is nature's way of ensuring that as soon
as she enters the world, she'll be able to take her first breath.
Abortion is a legal and available choice for women. Get used to that idea
because it isn't ever going to change no matter how hard you anti-choice
loons cry and moan about it.
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| User: "Flower Power" |
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| Title: Re: Watch Me in the Womb |
05 Jul 2004 01:06:34 AM |
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"papa jack" <papajack37@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:bd9f1f6b.0407041441.696a334e@posting.google.com...
Papa Jack comments:
The mass slaughter of millions of unborn children
has nothing to do with "freedom and democracy."
Just the opposite, abortion on demand is an evil
form of tyranny over the weak and helpless.
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You still haven't told us how YOU plan to enforce monthly
pregnancy tests on all women and where and how you will
confine them for the 9 months should abortion become illegal again.
--
FPower.......
But look what your Jehovah god said in his bible:
Psalm 137:9
"Happy shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the
stones." (Infanticide was approved by god)
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| User: "papa jack" |
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| Title: Re: Watch Me in the Womb |
06 Jul 2004 12:16:06 PM |
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"Flower Power" <IndependantWomen@This.net> wrote
in message news:<GuadnYY25L5ycnXdRVn-gw@heartoftn.net>...
"papa jack" <papajack37@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:bd9f1f6b.0407041441.696a334e@posting.google.com...
============================================================================
Papa Jack comments:
The mass slaughter of millions of unborn children
has nothing to do with "freedom and democracy."
Just the opposite, abortion on demand is an evil
form of tyranny over the weak and helpless.
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Flower Power wrote:
You still haven't told us how YOU plan to enforce monthly
pregnancy tests on all women and where and how you will
confine them for the 9 months should abortion become illegal again.
============================================================================
Papa Jack replied:
I support the GOP platform for 2000. Go to:
http://www.partyplatform.com/republican2000.html
"Upholding the Rights of All"
[...]
"...Our purpose is to have legislative and judicial
protection of that right against those who perform
abortions. We oppose using public revenues for
abortion and will not fund organizations which
advocate it. We support the appointment of judges
who respect traditional family values and the sanc-
tity of innocent human life.
"Our goal is to ensure that women with problem preg-
nancies have the kind of support, material and
otherwise, they need for themselves and for their
babies, not to be punitive towards those for whose
difficult situation we have only compassion. We
oppose abortion, but our pro-life agenda does not
include punitive action against women who have an
abortion. We salute those who provide alternatives
to abortion and offer adoption services,..."
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| User: "BOB SD" |
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06 Jul 2004 07:11:11 PM |
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(papa jack) wrote in
news:bd9f1f6b.0407060916.1ff19325@posting.google.com:
"Flower Power" <IndependantWomen@This.net> wrote
in message news:<GuadnYY25L5ycnXdRVn-gw@heartoftn.net>...
"papa jack" < > wrote in message
news:bd9f1f6b.0407041441.696a334e@posting.google.com...
========================================================================
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Papa Jack comments:
The mass slaughter of millions of unborn children
has nothing to do with "freedom and democracy."
Just the opposite, abortion on demand is an evil
form of tyranny over the weak and helpless.
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Flower Power wrote:
You still haven't told us how YOU plan to enforce monthly
pregnancy tests on all women and where and how you will
confine them for the 9 months should abortion become illegal again.
========================================================================
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Papa Jack replied:
I support the GOP platform for 2000. Go to:
That platform is history, this is 2004. Besides, that 2000 repug platform
and fifty-five cents might get you a cup of coffee.
<snip the bs>
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| User: "papa jack" |
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07 Jul 2004 11:56:05 AM |
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BOB <SD> wrote in message news:<Xns951EAED38C7D1SD@153.80.109.11>...
papajack37@sbcglobal.net (papa jack) wrote:
"Flower Power" <IndependantWomen@This.net> wrote:
"papa jack" <papajack37@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
========================================================================
Papa Jack comments:
The mass slaughter of millions of unborn children
has nothing to do with "freedom and democracy."
Just the opposite, abortion on demand is an evil
form of tyranny over the weak and helpless.
========================================================================
Flower Power wrote:
You still haven't told us how YOU plan to enforce monthly
pregnancy tests on all women and where and how you will
confine them for the 9 months should abortion become illegal again.
========================================================================
Papa Jack replied:
I support the GOP platform for 2000. Go to:
http://www.partyplatform.com/republican2000.html
"Upholding the Rights of All"
[...]
"...Our purpose is to have legislative and judicial
protection of that right against those who perform
abortions. We oppose using public revenues for
abortion and will not fund organizations which
advocate it. We support the appointment of judges
who respect traditional family values and the sanc-
tity of innocent human life.
"Our goal is to ensure that women with problem preg-
nancies have the kind of support, material and
otherwise, they need for themselves and for their
babies, not to be punitive towards those for whose
difficult situation we have only compassion. We
oppose abortion, but our pro-life agenda does not
include punitive action against women who have an
abortion. We salute those who provide alternatives
to abortion and offer adoption services,..."
[...]
========================================================================
BOB wrote:
That platform is history, this is 2004. Besides, that 2000 repug
platform and fifty-five cents might get you a cup of coffee.
========================================================================
Papa Jack remarked:
This platform is still in effect until the 2004 convention
approves a new one.
This platform reflects the actual attitude of Republicans
towand abortion. The new one will be very similar.
========================================================================
BOB wrote:
<snip the bs>
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Papa Jack smiled:
Sorry, BOB, but I reinserted the quote we are discussing.
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| User: "BOB SD" |
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07 Jul 2004 01:09:18 PM |
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(papa jack) wrote in
news:bd9f1f6b.0407070856.51a99791@posting.google.com:
BOB <SD> wrote in message news:<Xns951EAED38C7D1SD@153.80.109.11>...
(papa jack) wrote:
"Flower Power" <IndependantWomen@This.net> wrote:
"papa jack" < > wrote:
========================================================================
Papa Jack comments:
The mass slaughter of millions of unborn children
has nothing to do with "freedom and democracy."
Just the opposite, abortion on demand is an evil
form of tyranny over the weak and helpless.
========================================================================
Flower Power wrote:
You still haven't told us how YOU plan to enforce monthly
pregnancy tests on all women and where and how you will
confine them for the 9 months should abortion become illegal again.
========================================================================
Papa Jack replied:
I support the GOP platform for 2000. Go to:
http://www.partyplatform.com/republican2000.html
"Upholding the Rights of All"
[...]
"...Our purpose is to have legislative and judicial
protection of that right against those who perform
abortions. We oppose using public revenues for
abortion and will not fund organizations which
advocate it. We support the appointment of judges
who respect traditional family values and the sanc-
tity of innocent human life.
"Our goal is to ensure that women with problem preg-
nancies have the kind of support, material and
otherwise, they need for themselves and for their
babies, not to be punitive towards those for whose
difficult situation we have only compassion. We
oppose abortion, but our pro-life agenda does not
include punitive action against women who have an
abortion. We salute those who provide alternatives
to abortion and offer adoption services,..."
[...]
========================================================================
BOB wrote:
That platform is history, this is 2004. Besides, that 2000 repug
platform and fifty-five cents might get you a cup of coffee.
========================================================================
Papa Jack remarked:
This platform is still in effect until the 2004 convention
approves a new one.
And what "effect" might that be? It says nothing and means nothing.
This platform reflects the actual attitude of Republicans
towand abortion. The new one will be very similar.
That's why you goose-stepping repugs will lose. The American people are
waking up to the facts about you bums.
========================================================================
BOB wrote:
<snip the bs>
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Papa Jack smiled:
Sorry, BOB, but I reinserted the quote we are discussing.
Smile all you want fool. It is still bs, like most of your posts and
responses.
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| User: "Bob" |
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05 Jul 2004 11:24:16 AM |
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(papa jack) wrote in
news:bd9f1f6b.0407041441.696a334e@posting.google.com:
Bob <sd@sd.net> wrote in message news:<Xns951C5DC7DB43ESD@68.6.19.6>...
lappcatt@aol.com (IBen Getiner) wrote in
news:20040704050756.23811.00001203@mb-m28.aol.com:
From: Bob SD
References: <bd9f1f6b.0406281245.28d840a9@posting.google.com>
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Bob wrote:
Abortion is a legal and available choice for women.
Get used to that idea because it isn't ever going to
change no matter how hard you anti-choice loons cry and moan about
it.
=====================================================================
IBen Getiner wrote:
Well ... that's one of the most articulate statements
defending this particular killing practice that I've heard in a long
while.
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Bob wrote:
You forgot true.
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Papa Jack retorts:
Abortion may be legal and available, but you give us
no rationale whatsoever for believing "...it isn't
ever going to change..."
BTW, calling folks "anti-choice loons" doesn't support
your wild assertions.
Maybe not, but it makes me feel good to tell the truth. You ought to try it
sometime.
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IBen Getiner wrote:
Congratulations... Perfect psychopathic logic.
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Bob wrote:
Thanks. But you are the one who sounds psychopathic, not me.
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Papa Jack smiles:
Nope, Bob, you're the psychopath here. You support the
mass slaughter of living human beings.
I think most ng readers know who are the psychopaths here. They are the
ones who bomb clinics and kill doctors and clinic workders. They are also
the anti-choice loons who support that group of whackos.
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IBen Getiner wrote:
YOU are a selfish sick murdering killer of innocent helpless
CHILDREN. That's what YOU are...
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Bob wrote:
And you are a liar. I've never killed anyone.
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Papa Jack replies:
Ahhh, but, Bob you support the mass slaughter of
unborn children for profit. That's disgusting.
I suppport abortion-choice, nothing more. You are still a liar and a fool.
=====================================================================
IBen Getiner wrote:
Get used to THAT, since the stigma of child-killing isn't going to
change no matter how many judges you sick bastards own.
=====================================================================
Bob wrote:
And now matter how loud you Taliban wannabees...
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Papa Jack remarks:
Calling IBen Getiner "Taliban wannabees" is blatant
ad hominem reasoning.
No, it's very logical, just like calling you a Taliban wannabee.
=====================================================================
Bob wrote:
...screach your venom, freedom and democracy will prevail.
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Papa Jack comments:
The mass slaughter of millions of unborn children
has nothing to do with "freedom and democracy."
Just the opposite, abortion on demand is an evil
form of tyranny over the weak and helpless.
Abortion-choice has *everything* to do with freedom and democracy.
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| User: "papa jack" |
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| Title: Re: Watch Me in the Womb |
02 Jul 2004 07:53:20 PM |
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Bob <SD> wrote in message news:<Xns9516996297222SD@153.80.109.11>...
papajack37@sbcglobal.net (papa jack) wrote in
news:bd9f1f6b.0406281245.28d840a9@posting.google.com:
======================================================================
Papa Jack cited:
On 28 June, 2004, the BBC posted: "In pictures: Watch me grow."
go to:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/3847319.stm
________________________________________________________________
1 of 10
At eight weeks gestation, this foetus is able to kick and straighten
his legs, turn them round and move his arms up and down.
2 of 10
At ten weeks gestation, this foetus can move her arms and legs with a
range of movements that are fluid and supple.
3 of 10
At 22 weeks gestation babies are capable of fine hand and finger
movements. In a short space of time this baby scratches, rubs and pats
his cheek before doing the same to his nose.
4 of 10
This foetus exhibits behaviour identical to what he will do after
birth,. If he's held upright on a flat surface he will try and move
forward.
5 of 10
This baby's brain has developed sufficiently to enable him apparently
to sense the other parts of his body. He can bring his fingertips
together so they touch.
6 of 10
From about 24 weeks of pregnancy when retinal development is complete,
babies open and close their eyes intermittently. This helps a baby to
perfect the blinking reflex, which will protect his eyes once he's
born.
7 of 10
Although grasping begins early it becomes better established during
the last trimester. Babies grasp hands, feet, fingers, toes and, most
commonly, their umbilical cords.
8 of 10
While newborns do not smile until 4-6 weeks after birth, babies in the
uterus do. Maybe because the uterus is warm, comfortable, and shielded
from loud noise and bright light.
9 of 10
Foetuses as young as 11 weeks have been seen with their thumbs in
their mouths. This baby started out sucking his smallest toes and
gradually moves on to suck a bigger and better toe.
10 of 10
Babies produce a motion approximating to yawning from as early as 12
weeks' pregnancy. Maybe this is nature's way of ensuring that as soon
as she enters the world, she'll be able to take her first breath.
======================================================================
Bob wrote:
Abortion is a legal and available choice for women.
Get used to that idea because it isn't ever going to
change no matter how hard you anti-choice loons cry
and moan about it.
======================================================================
Papa Jack smiles:
Bob seems to believe "HE" is the ultimate authority.
I can't halp but wonder how many of those in the old
"deep South" thought much the same about slavery --
especially after the Dred Scott decision.
I'm sure many of the men opposing the original
"suffragettes" felt the same. "After all, everyone
knew that women didn't have the right sort of intel-
ligence to be trusted with the vote."
I sincerely believe that the days of the mass slaughter
known as abortion are numbered -- just as the shame of
slavery and men-only voting.
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| User: "Flower Power" |
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| Title: Re: Watch Me in the Womb |
05 Jul 2004 01:02:40 AM |
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"papa jack" <papajack37@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:bd9f1f6b.0407041425.2a8b9dad@posting.google.com...
Papa Jack replies:
Why do you believe Americans will continue the mass
slaughter of millions of unborn children?
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Because the schools and churches refuse to teach young people about BC?
Because your anti-choice group refuses to hand out free condoms and other BC
to the poor and the teens? Because society is sick of supporting millions
of fatherless unwanted children? Because a woman's life is more valuable
then a potential child, an unwanted one no less? And probably because you
can't stop women anyway. You still haven't told us how YOU plan to enforce
monthly pregnancy tests on all women and where and how you will confine them
for the 9 months.
--
Flower Power........
One women dies giving birth every 30 minutes in Afghanistan.
What an abortion REALLY looks like.
http://www.angelfire.com/pq/pepsii/nuva.html
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| User: "Bob" |
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05 Jul 2004 11:15:21 AM |
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(papa jack) wrote in
news:bd9f1f6b.0407041425.2a8b9dad@posting.google.com:
Bob <sd@sd.net> wrote in message news:<Xns951B9DA51FF2SD@68.6.19.6>...
(papa jack) wrote:
Bob <SD> wrote:
(papa jack) wrote:
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Papa Jack cited:
On 28 June, 2004, the BBC posted: "In pictures: Watch me grow." go
to:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/3847319.stm
________________________________________________________________
[snip]
======================================================================
Bob wrote:
Abortion is a legal and available choice for women.
Get used to that idea because it isn't ever going to
change no matter how hard you anti-choice loons cry and moan about
it.
======================================================================
Papa Jack smiles:
Bob seems to believe "HE" is the ultimate authority.
I can't halp but wonder how many of those in the old
"deep South" thought much the same about slavery -- especially after
the Dred Scott decision.
I'm sure many of the men opposing the original
"suffragettes" felt the same. "After all, everyone
knew that women didn't have the right sort of intel- ligence to be
trusted with the vote."
I sincerely believe that the days of the mass slaughter
known as abortion are numbered -- just as the shame of slavery and
men-only voting.
======================================================================
Bob wrote:
And I believe that the anti-choice philosophy will go into history
the way of the Taliban.
======================================================================
Papa Jack replies:
Why do you believe Americans will continue the mass
slaughter of millions of unborn children?
Why do you have a habit of putting your own malicious words and thoughts
into what other people say here?
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| User: "papa jack" |
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| Title: Re: Watch Me in the Womb |
07 Jul 2004 12:16:00 PM |
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Bob <sd@sd.net> wrote in message news:<Xns951D5E27B3C17SD@68.6.19.6>...
papajack37@sbcglobal.net (papa jack) wrote:
Bob <sd@sd.net> wrote:
papajack37@sbcglobal.net (papa jack) wrote:
Bob <SD> wrote:
papajack37@sbcglobal.net (papa jack) wrote:
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Papa Jack cited:
On 28 June, 2004, the BBC posted: "In pictures: Watch
me grow." go to:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/3847319.stm
________________________________________________________________
[snip]
======================================================================
Bob wrote:
Abortion is a legal and available choice for women.
Get used to that idea because it isn't ever going to
change no matter how hard you anti-choice loons cry
and moan about it.
======================================================================
Papa Jack smiles:
Bob seems to believe "HE" is the ultimate authority.
I can't halp but wonder how many of those in the old
"deep South" thought much the same about slavery --
especially after the Dred Scott decision.
I'm sure many of the men opposing the original
"suffragettes" felt the same. "After all, everyone
knew that women didn't have the right sort of intel-
ligence to be trusted with the vote."
I sincerely believe that the days of the mass slaughter
known as abortion are numbered -- just as the shame of
slavery and men-only voting.
======================================================================
Bob wrote:
And I believe that the anti-choice philosophy will go
into history the way of the Taliban.
======================================================================
Papa Jack replies:
Why do you believe Americans will continue the mass
slaughter of millions of unborn children?
======================================================================
Bob wrote:
Why do you have a habit of putting your own malicious words
and thoughts into what other people say here?
======================================================================
Papa Jack lsughed:
Bob, you write:
"Get used to that idea because it isn't ever going to
change no matter how hard you anti-choice loons cry
and moan about it."
"And I believe that the anti-choice philosophy will go
into history the way of the Taliban."
But you get upset when I tell the truth by describing what
abortion really is -- i.e., the mass slaughter of millions
of unborn children.
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| User: "BOB SD" |
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| Title: Re: Watch Me in the Womb |
07 Jul 2004 01:12:33 PM |
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(papa jack) wrote in
news:bd9f1f6b.0407070916.74f6bd9e@posting.google.com:
Bob <sd@sd.net> wrote in message news:<Xns951D5E27B3C17SD@68.6.19.6>...
(papa jack) wrote:
Bob <sd@sd.net> wrote:
(papa jack) wrote:
Bob <SD> wrote:
(papa jack) wrote:
======================================================================
Papa Jack cited:
On 28 June, 2004, the BBC posted: "In pictures: Watch
me grow." go to:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/3847319.stm
________________________________________________________________
[snip]
======================================================================
Bob wrote:
Abortion is a legal and available choice for women.
Get used to that idea because it isn't ever going to
change no matter how hard you anti-choice loons cry
and moan about it.
======================================================================
Papa Jack smiles:
Bob seems to believe "HE" is the ultimate authority.
I can't halp but wonder how many of those in the old
"deep South" thought much the same about slavery --
especially after the Dred Scott decision.
I'm sure many of the men opposing the original
"suffragettes" felt the same. "After all, everyone
knew that women didn't have the right sort of intel-
ligence to be trusted with the vote."
I sincerely believe that the days of the mass slaughter
known as abortion are numbered -- just as the shame of
slavery and men-only voting.
======================================================================
Bob wrote:
And I believe that the anti-choice philosophy will go
into history the way of the Taliban.
======================================================================
Papa Jack replies:
Why do you believe Americans will continue the mass
slaughter of millions of unborn children?
======================================================================
Bob wrote:
Why do you have a habit of putting your own malicious words
and thoughts into what other people say here?
======================================================================
Papa Jack lsughed:
Bob, you write:
"Get used to that idea because it isn't ever going to
change no matter how hard you anti-choice loons cry
and moan about it."
"And I believe that the anti-choice philosophy will go
into history the way of the Taliban."
But you get upset when I tell the truth by describing what
abortion really is -- i.e., the mass slaughter of millions
of unborn children.
You seem to be the one who is upset, not me. Your so-called "truth" is
nothing but more lies and deceit from the anti-choice loons.
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| User: "papa jack" |
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| Title: Re: Watch Me in the Womb |
07 Jul 2004 08:19:16 PM |
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BOB <SD> wrote in message news:<Xns951F7206B6429SD@153.80.109.11>...
papajack37@sbcglobal.net (papa jack) wrote:
Bob <sd@sd.net> wrote:
papajack37@sbcglobal.net (papa jack) wrote:
Bob <sd@sd.net> wrote:
papajack37@sbcglobal.net (papa jack) wrote:
Bob <SD> wrote:
papajack37@sbcglobal.net (papa jack) wrote:
======================================================================
Papa Jack cited:
On 28 June, 2004, the BBC posted: "In pictures: Watch
me grow." go to:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/3847319.stm
________________________________________________________________
[snip]
=====================================================================
BOB wrote:
Abortion is a legal and available choice for women.
Get used to that idea because it isn't ever going to
change no matter how hard you anti-choice loons cry
and moan about it.
======================================================================
Papa Jack smiles:
Bob seems to believe "HE" is the ultimate authority.
I can't halp but wonder how many of those in the old
"deep South" thought much the same about slavery --
especially after the Dred Scott decision.
I'm sure many of the men opposing the original
"suffragettes" felt the same. "After all, everyone
knew that women didn't have the right sort of intel-
ligence to be trusted with the vote."
I sincerely believe that the days of the mass slaughter
known as abortion are numbered -- just as the shame of
slavery and men-only voting.
======================================================================
BOB wrote:
And I believe that the anti-choice philosophy will go
into history the way of the Taliban.
======================================================================
Papa Jack replies:
Why do you believe Americans will continue the mass
slaughter of millions of unborn children?
======================================================================
BOB wrote:
Why do you have a habit of putting your own malicious words
and thoughts into what other people say here?
======================================================================
Papa Jack lsughed:
Bob, you write:
"Get used to that idea because it isn't ever going to
change no matter how hard you anti-choice loons cry
and moan about it."
"And I believe that the anti-choice philosophy will go
into history the way of the Taliban."
But you get upset when I tell the truth by describing what
abortion really is -- i.e., the mass slaughter of millions
of unborn children.
======================================================================
BOB wrote:
You seem to be the one who is upset, not me. Your
so-called "truth" is nothing but more lies and deceit
from the anti-choice loons.
======================================================================
Papa Jack challenged:
Prove it, BOB.
I say abortion is the mass slaughter of millions of
unborn children.
You say that is "lies and deceit."
Explain why the 30,000,000 abortions since 1973 (Roe v
Wade) did not represent the killing of over 30,000,000
unborn children.
Tell us why the killing of over 30,000,000 unborn human
beings cannot be accurately described as "mass slaughter."
What is "deceitful" about my descriptions.
Bet BOB runs away.
.
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| User: "BOB" |
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| Title: Re: Watch Me in the Womb |
07 Jul 2004 09:03:38 PM |
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(papa jack) wrote in
news:bd9f1f6b.0407071719.76d23725@posting.google.com:
BOB <SD> wrote in message news:<Xns951F7206B6429SD@153.80.109.11>...
(papa jack) wrote:
Bob <sd@sd.net> wrote:
(papa jack) wrote:
Bob <sd@sd.net> wrote:
(papa jack) wrote:
Bob <SD> wrote:
(papa jack) wrote:
======================================================================
Papa Jack cited:
On 28 June, 2004, the BBC posted: "In pictures: Watch me
grow." go to:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/3847319.stm
________________________________________________________________
[snip]
=====================================================================
BOB wrote:
Abortion is a legal and available choice for women.
Get used to that idea because it isn't ever going to
change no matter how hard you anti-choice loons cry and moan
about it.
======================================================================
Papa Jack smiles:
Bob seems to believe "HE" is the ultimate authority.
I can't halp but wonder how many of those in the old
"deep South" thought much the same about slavery -- especially
after the Dred Scott decision.
I'm sure many of the men opposing the original
"suffragettes" felt the same. "After all, everyone
knew that women didn't have the right sort of intel- ligence to
be trusted with the vote."
I sincerely believe that the days of the mass slaughter
known as abortion are numbered -- just as the shame of slavery
and men-only voting.
======================================================================
BOB wrote:
And I believe that the anti-choice philosophy will go into
history the way of the Taliban.
======================================================================
Papa Jack replies:
Why do you believe Americans will continue the mass slaughter of
millions of unborn children?
======================================================================
BOB wrote:
Why do you have a habit of putting your own malicious words and
thoughts into what other people say here?
======================================================================
Papa Jack lsughed:
Bob, you write:
"Get used to that idea because it isn't ever going to
change no matter how hard you anti-choice loons cry and moan
about it."
"And I believe that the anti-choice philosophy will go into
history the way of the Taliban."
But you get upset when I tell the truth by describing what
abortion really is -- i.e., the mass slaughter of millions of unborn
children.
======================================================================
BOB wrote:
You seem to be the one who is upset, not me. Your
so-called "truth" is nothing but more lies and deceit from the
anti-choice loons.
======================================================================
Papa Jack challenged:
Prove it, BOB.
OK. Mass slaughter would be murder. Murder is a criminal act. Abortion is
not a criminal act, nor is it murder, nor is it mass slaughter.
I say abortion is the mass slaughter of millions of
unborn children.
And you are lying. (See above)
You say that is "lies and deceit."
It is.
Explain why the 30,000,000 abortions since 1973 (Roe v
Wade) did not represent the killing of over 30,000,000
unborn children.
"Unborn children" is a misnomer. A child is born and alive. "Unborn"
(never born) negates the "child".
You are a liar and an anti-choice loon. If you don't like abortions, don't
have one.
Tell us why the killing of over 30,000,000 unborn human
beings cannot be accurately described as "mass slaughter."
What is "deceitful" about my descriptions.
Bet BOB runs away.
.
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| User: "papa jack" |
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| Title: Re: Watch Me in the Womb |
08 Jul 2004 05:33:25 PM |
|
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BOB <sd@sd.net> wrote in message news:<Xns951FC1E56B033SD@68.6.19.6>...
papajack37@sbcglobal.net (papa jack) wrote:
BOB <SD> wrote:
papajack37@sbcglobal.net (papa jack) wrote:
Bob <sd@sd.net> wrote:
papajack37@sbcglobal.net (papa jack) wrote:
Bob <sd@sd.net> wrote:
papajack37@sbcglobal.net (papa jack) wrote:
Bob <SD> wrote:
papajack37@sbcglobal.net (papa jack) wrote:
======================================================================
Papa Jack cited:
On 28 June, 2004, the BBC posted: "In pictures: Watch
me grow." go to:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/3847319.stm
_____________________________________________________________________
[snip]
======================================================================
BOB wrote:
Abortion is a legal and available choice for women.
Get used to that idea because it isn't ever going to
change no matter how hard you anti-choice loons cry
and moan about it.
======================================================================
Papa Jack smiles:
Bob seems to believe "HE" is the ultimate authority.
I can't halp but wonder how many of those in the old
"deep South" thought much the same about slavery --
especially after the Dred Scott decision.
I'm sure many of the men opposing the original
"suffragettes" felt the same. "After all, everyone
knew that women didn't have the right sort of intel-
ligence to be trusted with the vote."
I sincerely believe that the days of the mass slaughter
known as abortion are numbered -- just as the shame of
slavery and men-only voting.
======================================================================
BOB wrote:
And I believe that the anti-choice philosophy will go into
history the way of the Taliban.
======================================================================
Papa Jack replies:
Why do you believe Americans will continue the mass slaughter
of
millions of unborn children?
======================================================================
BOB wrote:
Why do you have a habit of putting your own malicious words and
thoughts into what other people say here?
======================================================================
Papa Jack lsughed:
Bob, you write:
"Get used to that idea because it isn't ever going to
change no matter how hard you anti-choice loons cry
and moan about it."
"And I believe that the anti-choice philosophy will go
into history the way of the Taliban."
But you get upset when I tell the truth by describing what
abortion really is -- i.e., the mass slaughter of millions
of unborn children.
======================================================================
BOB wrote:
You seem to be the one who is upset, not me. Your
so-called "truth" is nothing but more lies and deceit
from the anti-choice loons.
======================================================================
Papa Jack challenged:
Prove it, BOB.
======================================================================
BOB wrote:
OK. Mass slaughter would be murder....
======================================================================
Papa Jack explained:
Not in this case. It is homicide (i.e., the killing of one
human being by another human being), but murder is defined
in different ways by different legislatures and judges.
======================================================================
BOB wrote:
Murder is a criminal act....
======================================================================
Papa Jack agreed:
Yep, murder (by definition) IS a criminal act. But, there
are homicides which do not fit the formal definitions of
murder.
Abortion is a good example. The abortionist kills the
unborn child for money. That IS homicide. However, the
courts have prevented the legislatures from including the
homicides in abortion in the legal definitions of murder.
======================================================================
BOB wrote:
Abortion is not a criminal act,...
======================================================================
Papa Jack replied:
Well, that depends on the circumstances. But, you're
right in that most abortions are not considered criminal
acts by our courts -- even though they involve the
premediatated killing of one human being by another
human being.
I think that is an evil ruling, don't you?
======================================================================
BOB wrote:
...nor is it murder,...
======================================================================
Papa Jack remarked:
You're repeating yourself, BOB.
======================================================================
BOB wrote:
...nor is it mass slaughter.
======================================================================
Papa Jack corrected:
W R O N G !
Not all slaugters are murders.
The Findlaw dictionary:
murder
: the crime of unlawfully and unjustifiably killing
another under circumstances defined by statute (as
with premeditation)
.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
The Merriam Webster dictionary
Main Entry: slaugh·ter
1 : the act of killing; specifically : the butchering
of livestock for market
2 : killing of great numbers of human beings (as in
battle or a massacre) : CARNAGE
Look particularly at the second definition: "killing of
great numbers of human beings." That says nothing about
murder -- but, it clearly fits what is happening in
the abortion mills of our nation.
======================================================================
Papa Jack wrote:
I say abortion is the mass slaughter of millions of
unborn children.
======================================================================
BOB wrote:
And you are lying. (See above)
======================================================================
Papa Jack comments:
No, I've proven my point -- you just make assertions
without any support.
======================================================================
Papa Jack wrote:
You say that is "lies and deceit."
======================================================================
BOB wrote:
It is.
======================================================================
Papa Jack smiled:
BOB, you must do more than just make naked assertions.
======================================================================
Papa Jack wrote:
Explain why the 30,000,000 abortions since 1973 (Roe v
Wade) did not represent the killing of over 30,000,000
unborn children.
======================================================================
BOB wrote:
"Unborn children" is a misnomer. A child is born and alive.
"Unborn" (never born) negates the "child".
======================================================================
Papa Jack corrected:
You must be new here. I've been posting the following
for years to prove you're wrong.
********************************************************************
http://www.merriamwebster.com/
Main Entry: child
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English cild; akin to
Gothic kilthei womb, and perhaps to Sanskrit jathara belly
1 a : an UNBORN or recently born person...
********************************************************************
http://www.bartleby.com/61/13/C0291300.html
The American Heritage Dictionary
Child:
1. A person between birth and puberty. 2a. An UNBORN INFANT;
a FETUS. ...
********************************************************************
Black's Law Dictionary, 6th ed., 1990)
http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/abtrbng/terms.htm
Child; Children. Progeny; offspring of parentage. UNBORN or recently
born HUMAN BEING. Wilson v. Weaver, 358 F.Supp. 1147, 1154. . .
Unborn child. The individual human life in existence and developing
prior to birth. A CHILD NOT YET BORN at the happening of an
event....
********************************************************************
Medical dictionary
http://www.intelihealth.com/cgi-bin/dictionary.cgi?book=Medical&adv=1&t=9276&p=%7Ebr%2CIHW%7C%7Est%2C9276%7C%7Er%2CWSIHW045%7C%7Eb%2C*%7C&WEB_HOME=%2FIH%2F&WEB_HOST=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.intelihealth.com&MIVAL=ihtIH&va=child&vao=Entry+Word&fl=&sl=&df=&dfo=Defining+Text&search.x=15&search.y=3
Main Entry: child
1 : an UNBORN or recently born PERSON
2 : a young person especially between infancy and youth
- with child : PREGNANT
********************************************************************
So, you see, BOB, the term "unborn child" is totally
appropriate according to legal, medical, and general
dictionaries.
======================================================================
BOB wrote:
You are a liar and an anti-choice loon. If you don't
like abortions, don't have one.
======================================================================
Papa Jack shook his head:
That's and old, trite, and illogical statement put out
by the abortion industry years ago. Little parrots
like you keep repeating it. [sigh]
======================================================================
Papa Jack wrote:
Tell us why the killing of over 30,000,000 unborn human
beings cannot be accurately described as "mass slaughter."
What is "deceitful" about my descriptions.
Bet BOB runs away.
.
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| User: "BOB" |
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| Title: Re: Watch Me in the Womb |
08 Jul 2004 09:16:24 PM |
|
|
(papa jack) wrote in
news:bd9f1f6b.0407081433.215b26e@posting.google.com:
BOB <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
news:<Xns951FC1E56B033SD@68.6.19.6>...
(papa jack) wrote:
BOB <SD> wrote:
(papa jack) wrote:
Bob <sd@sd.net> wrote:
(papa jack) wrote:
Bob <sd@sd.net> wrote:
(papa jack) wrote:
Bob <SD> wrote:
(papa jack) wrote:
======================================================================
Papa Jack cited:
On 28 June, 2004, the BBC posted: "In pictures: Watch me
grow." go to:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/3847319.stm
_____________________________________________________________________
[snip]
======================================================================
BOB wrote:
Abortion is a legal and available choice for women.
Get used to that idea because it isn't ever going to
change no matter how hard you anti-choice loons cry and moan
about it.
======================================================================
Papa Jack smiles:
Bob seems to believe "HE" is the ultimate authority.
I can't halp but wonder how many of those in the old
"deep South" thought much the same about slavery --
especially after the Dred Scott decision.
I'm sure many of the men opposing the original
"suffragettes" felt the same. "After all, everyone
knew that women didn't have the right sort of intel- ligence to
be trusted with the vote."
I sincerely believe that the days of the mass slaughter
known as abortion are numbered -- just as the shame of
slavery and men-only voting.
======================================================================
BOB wrote:
And I believe that the anti-choice philosophy will go into
history the way of the Taliban.
======================================================================
Papa Jack replies:
Why do you believe Americans will continue the mass slaughter of
millions of unborn children?
======================================================================
BOB wrote:
Why do you have a habit of putting your own malicious words and
thoughts into what other people say here?
======================================================================
Papa Jack lsughed:
Bob, you write:
"Get used to that idea because it isn't ever going to
change no matter how hard you anti-choice loons cry and moan
about it."
"And I believe that the anti-choice philosophy will go into
history the way of the Taliban."
But you get upset when I tell the truth by describing what
abortion really is -- i.e., the mass slaughter of millions of
unborn children.
======================================================================
BOB wrote:
You seem to be the one who is upset, not me. Your
so-called "truth" is nothing but more lies and deceit from the
anti-choice loons.
======================================================================
Papa Jack challenged:
Prove it, BOB.
======================================================================
BOB wrote:
OK. Mass slaughter would be murder....
======================================================================
Papa Jack explained:
Not in this case. It is homicide (i.e., the killing of one
human being by another human being), but murder is defined
in different ways by different legislatures and judges.
The only human being involved in abortion is the pregnant woman. But you
know that and continue to lie and deceive.
======================================================================
BOB wrote:
Murder is a criminal act....
======================================================================
Papa Jack agreed:
Yep, murder (by definition) IS a criminal act. But, there
are homicides which do not fit the formal definitions of
murder.
Name one. And don't spout the obvious anti-choice bs about "abortion" being
a homocide or murder. That dog won't hunt.
Abortion is a good example. The abortionist kills the
unborn child for money. That IS homicide. However, the
courts have prevented the legislatures from including the
homicides in abortion in the legal definitions of murder.
And of course you and the other anti-choice loons who post here know better
that the courts. What a loser.
======================================================================
BOB wrote:
Abortion is not a criminal act,...
======================================================================
Papa Jack replied:
Well, that depends on the circumstances. But, you're
right in that most abortions are not considered criminal
acts by our courts -- even though they involve the
premediatated killing of one human being by another
human being.
Boy are you stupid. Again, the only human being involved in abortion is the
pregnant woman. But you know that and continue to lie and deceive.
I think that is an evil ruling, don't you?
And I think you and your anti-choice ilk are evil. No surprise here.
======================================================================
BOB wrote:
...nor is it murder,...
======================================================================
Papa Jack remarked:
You're repeating yourself, BOB.
Yet you continue to ignore the facts and truth. Guess we pro-choice
advocates will have to keep repeating ourselves until you anti-choice morons
go the way of your Taliban compadres.
======================================================================
BOB wrote:
...nor is it mass slaughter.
======================================================================
Papa Jack corrected:
W R O N G !
Nope.
Not all slaugters are murders.
Which one's aren't?
The Findlaw dictionary:
murder
: the crime of unlawfully and unjustifiably killing
another under circumstances defined by statute (as
with premeditation)
And is abortion mentioned in any statue regarding murder?
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
The Merriam Webster dictionary
Main Entry: slaugh·ter
1 : the act of killing; specifically : the butchering
of livestock for market
2 : killing of great numbers of human beings (as in
battle or a massacre) : CARNAGE
Look particularly at the second definition: "killing of
great numbers of human beings." That says nothing about
murder -- but, it clearly fits what is happening in
the abortion mills of our nation.
For the third time in this same post: The only human being involved in
abortion is the pregnant woman. But you know that and continue to lie and
deceive.
======================================================================
Papa Jack wrote:
I say abortion is the mass slaughter of millions of unborn children.
I say you are a liar and an idiot.
======================================================================
BOB wrote:
And you are lying. (See above)
======================================================================
Papa Jack comments:
No, I've proven my point -- you just make assertions
without any support.
No support? What about the majority of Americans who are also pro-choice?
======================================================================
Papa Jack wrote:
You say that is "lies and deceit."
======================================================================
BOB wrote:
It is.
======================================================================
Papa Jack smiled:
BOB, you must do more than just make naked assertions.
Why? The truth is simple and I simply state the truth.
======================================================================
Papa Jack wrote:
Explain why the 30,000,000 abortions since 1973 (Roe v
Wade) did not represent the killing of over 30,000,000 unborn
children.
======================================================================
BOB wrote:
"Unborn children" is a misnomer. A child is born and alive.
"Unborn" (never born) negates the "child".
======================================================================
Papa Jack corrected:
You must be new here. I've been posting the following
for years to prove you're wrong.
Big deal. You have been posting the same anti-choice lies and bs for years
and it looks like you will continue to do so. Your alleged "proof" doesn't
hold water.
********************************************************************
http://www.merriamwebster.com/
Main Entry: child
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English cild; akin to
Gothic kilthei womb, and perhaps to Sanskrit jathara belly
1 a : an UNBORN or recently born person...
********************************************************************
http://www.bartleby.com/61/13/C0291300.html
The American Heritage Dictionary
Child:
1. A person between birth and puberty. 2a. An UNBORN INFANT;
a FETUS. ...
********************************************************************
Black's Law Dictionary, 6th ed., 1990)
http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/abtrbng/terms.htm
Child; Children. Progeny; offspring of parentage. UNBORN or recently
born HUMAN BEING. Wilson v. Weaver, 358 F.Supp. 1147, 1154. . .
Unborn child. The individual human life in existence and developing
prior to birth. A CHILD NOT YET BORN at the happening of an
event....
********************************************************************
Medical dictionary
http://www.intelihealth.com/cgi-bin/dictionary.cgi?book=Medical&adv=1&t=
9276&p=%7Ebr%2CIHW%7C%7Est%2C9276%7C%7Er%2CWSIHW045%7C%7Eb%2C*%7C&WEB_HO
ME=%2FIH%2F&WEB_HOST=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.intelihealth.com&MIVAL=ihtIH&va=ch
ild&vao=Entry+Word&fl=&sl=&df=&dfo=Defining+Text&search.x=15&search.y=3
Main Entry: child
1 : an UNBORN or recently born PERSON
2 : a young person especially between infancy and youth
- with child : PREGNANT
********************************************************************
So, you see, BOB, the term "unborn child" is totally
appropriate according to legal, medical, and general
dictionaries.
Do you konw what the prefix "un" means?
un·born Audio pronunciation of "unborn" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (n-bôrn)
adj.
1. Not yet born: an unborn child.
2. Not yet appeared; future: unborn inventions.
======================================================================
BOB wrote:
You are a liar and an anti-choice loon. If you don't like abortions,
don't have one.
======================================================================
Papa Jack shook his head:
That's and old, trite, and illogical statement put out
by the abortion industry years ago. Little parrots
like you keep repeating it. [sigh]
OK. You are a liar and an anti-choice loon. If you don't like abortions,
don't have one.
Works for me.
======================================================================
Papa Jack wrote:
Tell us why the killing of over 30,000,000 unborn human beings cannot
be accurately described as "mass slaughter."
What is "deceitful" about my descriptions.
Bet BOB runs away.
You lost the bet, fool. Do you always declare victory in advance?
.
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| User: "papa jack" |
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| Title: Re: Watch Me in the Womb |
10 Jul 2004 06:34:31 PM |
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BOB <sd@sd.net> wrote in message news:<Xns9520C40F040B9SD@68.6.19.6>...
papajack37@sbcglobal.net (papa jack) wrote:
BOB <sd@sd.net> wrote:
papajack37@sbcglobal.net (papa jack) wrote:
BOB <SD> wrote:
papajack37@sbcglobal.net (papa jack) wrote:
Bob <sd@sd.net> wrote:
papajack37@sbcglobal.net (papa jack) wrote:
Bob <sd@sd.net> wrote:
papajack37@sbcglobal.net (papa jack) wrote:
Bob <SD> wrote:
papajack37@sbcglobal.net (papa jack) wrote:
======================================================================
[snip]
======================================================================
BOB wrote:
...Your so-called "truth" is nothing but more lies
and deceit from the anti-choice loons.
======================================================================
Papa Jack challenged:
Prove it, BOB.
======================================================================
BOB wrote:
OK. Mass slaughter would be murder....
======================================================================
Papa Jack explained:
Not in this case. It is homicide (i.e., the killing of one
human being by another human being), but murder is defined
in different ways by different legislatures and judges.
======================================================================
BOB wrote:
The only human being involved in abortion is the pregnant
woman. But you know that and continue to lie and deceive.
======================================================================
Papa Jack replied:
Oh, so you are claiming a living fetus is NOT A HUMAN BEING?
A fetus:
* is ALIVE -- it moves and it grows.
* has human DNA.
* has human body components: i.e., a head, torso,
legs, feet, hands, arms, brain, heart, etc.
If a fetus is born prematurly, it looks like a human
being and is accepted by all as a human being. But,
you would have us believe that same being is not
human if the mother carries it to full term? That
doesn't sound logical, BOB -- but, I understand it
is essential for your weak arguments.
======================================================================
BOB wrote:
Murder is a criminal act....
======================================================================
Papa Jack agreed:
Yep, murder (by definition) IS a criminal act. But, there
are homicides which do not fit the formal definitions of
murder.
======================================================================
BOB wrote:
Name one. And don't spout the obvious anti-choice bs about
"abortion" being a homocide or murder. That dog won't hunt.
======================================================================
Papa Jack laughed:
Why won't "that dog hunt?" Why do you try to impose
such artifical limits on me by your blusters.
If a drumk driver kills a child crossing the street,
that is negligent homicide -- but, probably not murder.
If a marine shoots an enemy troop during war, that
is homicide but not murder.
If a policewomen shoots and kills a bank robber who
was shooting at her, that is homicide but not murder.
======================================================================
Papa Jack wrote:
Abortion is a good example. The abortionist kills the
unborn child for money. That IS homicide. However, the
courts have prevented the legislatures from including the
homicides in abortion in the legal definitions of murder.
======================================================================
BOB wrote:
And of course you and the other anti-choice loons who post
here know better that [sic] the courts. What a loser.
======================================================================
Papa Jack nodded:
Yep, in this case I feel very confident the Supreme Court
was tragically wrong in Roe v. Wade, Doe v. Bolton, and
the other abortion-related decisions in recent years.
BTW, BOB, calling your opponent names like "loser" only
proves to the reader that you have weak arguments so
you must make up for your lack of facts with silly bluster.
======================================================================
BOB wrote:
Abortion is not a criminal act,...
======================================================================
Papa Jack replied:
Well, that depends on the circumstances. But, you're
right in that most abortions are not considered criminal
acts by our courts -- even though they involve the
premediatated killing of one human being by another
human being.
======================================================================
BOB wrote:
Boy are you stupid...
======================================================================
Papa Jack laughs:
Notice, Gentle Reader, how BOB signals his weakness
by slinging around childish insults which have np
relation to the discussion. That is supposed to
intimidate me and impress you. [snicker]
======================================================================
BOB wrote:
...Again, the only human being involved in abortion is the
pregnant woman....
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Papa Jack comments:
And we should believe that WHY? Simply because you
asserted it? Since you offer no reputable source,
facts, or even logical argument; it's clear that
you want to win the argument by simply insisting
you are right and stomping your little foot.
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BOB wrote:
...But you know that and continue to lie and deceive....
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Papa Jack shook his head:
Now, Gentle Reader, notice how BOB tries to strengthen
his pathetic assertions by calling me a liar and a
deceiver. He has no basis for such name calling, but
that is supposed to make him look macho or something.
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Papa Jack wrote:
I think that is an evil ruling, don't you?
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BOB wrote:
And I think you and your anti-choice ilk are evil.
No surprise here.
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Papa Jack asks:
Why are we evil? For trying to stop the mass slaughter
of millions of innocent human beings? What's evil about
that, BOB?
Oh, I forgot -- you don't have to give reasons -- you
just point your all-knowing finger and the opponent is
expected to shrivel and die. [snicker]
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BOB wrote:
...nor is it murder,...
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Papa Jack remarked:
You're repeating yourself, BOB.
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BOB wrote:
Yet you continue to ignore the facts and truth....
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Papa Jack reports:
The only thing I'm ignoring are your unsupported
opinions. When you start backing up you opinions
with expert references, facts, or logical arguments;
I may pay more attention to you.
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BOB wrote:
...Guess we pro-choice advocates will have to keep
repeating ourselves until you anti-choice morons
go the way of your Taliban compadres.
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Papa Jack laughed:
That's all you've had for years -- i.e., repeating
the bumper sticker slogans the abortion industry
gave you years ago.
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BOB wrote:
...nor is it mass slaughter.
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Papa Jack corrected:
W R O N G !
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BOB wrote:
Nope.
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Papa Jack
Yep. 8^)
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Papa Jack wrote:
Not all slaugters are murders.
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BOB wrote:
Which one's aren't?
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Papa Jack responded:
How about when crowds are slaughtered by earthquakes,
storms, or large fires?
Then, of course, there is the massive slaughter
caused by abortions each year. They are the killing
of large numbers of innocent human beings which are
legal because the courts have blessed them.
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Papa Jack wrote:
The Findlaw dictionary:
murder
: the crime of unlawfully and unjustifiably killing
another under circumstances defined by statute (as
with premeditation)
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BOB wrote:
And is abortion mentioned in any statue regarding murder?
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Papa Jack answered:
Yes, it is mentioned in some as an exception.
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Papa Jack wrote:
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
The Merriam Webster dictionary
Main Entry: slaugh·ter
1 : the act of killing; specifically : the butchering
of livestock for market
2 : killing of great numbers of human beings (as in
battle or a massacre) : CARNAGE
Look particularly at the second definition: "killing of
great numbers of human beings." That says nothing about
murder -- but, it clearly fits what is happening in
the abortion mills of our nation.
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BOB wrote:
For the third time in this same post: The only human
being involved in abortion is the pregnant woman. But
you know that and continue to lie and deceive.
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Papa Jack laughed:
This is getting to be comical, BOB. You state something
over and over and get irritated because I don't just
take your word for it. So far, you've not offered any
proof, evidence, or even any impressive logic.
You clearly don't have a good understanding of the
concepts of debate. You don't win argumens by just
making unsupported assertions.
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Papa Jack wrote:
I say abortion is the mass slaughter of millions of
unborn children.
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BOB wrote:
I say you are a liar and an idiot.
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Papa Jack smiled:
Prove it. 8^)
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BOB wrote:
And you are lying. (See above)
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Papa Jack comments:
No, I've proven my point -- you just make assertions
without any support.
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BOB wrote:
No support? What about the majority of Americans who
are also pro-choice?
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Papa Jack LOL:
I don't think you understand what I meant by "support,"
In this sense, "support" means to provide with substan-
tiation or corrorboration. You know -- like facts,
expert quotes, or logical arguments.
BTW, you are WRONG about the majority of Americans being
"pro-choice." Go to:
http://www.sba-list.org/index.cfm/section/whatsnew/page/polls_Attitudes.html
http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/cgi-bin/hsrun.exe/Roperweb/pom/StateId/CSZsJmxQPBo1aBmHcslA3WOg1rP-w-ViM_/HAHTpage/Summary_Link?qstn_id=517606
A variety of polls clearly show the majority of Americans
would prefer to see abortion more limited than today. Only
a small minority on both sides want to see abotion totally
unlimited or totally illegal. The great majority want to
see reasonable restrictions -- such as banning all late
term abortions, banning partial-birth abortions, or requiring
parental involvement before underage minors get abortions.
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Papa Jack wrote:
You say that is "lies and deceit."
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BOB wrote:
It is.
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Papa Jack smiled:
BOB, you must do more than just make naked assertions.
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BOB wrote:
Why? The truth is simple and I simply state the truth.
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Papa Jack corrected:
But YOUR "TRUTH" is not accepted by most. Since you
don't want to be bothered with such things as facts
or logic, your credibility is very, very thin here.
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Papa Jack wrote:
Explain why the 30,000,000 abortions since 1973 (Roe v
Wade) did not represent the killing of over 30,000,000
unborn children.
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BOB wrote:
"Unborn children" is a misnomer. A child is born and alive.
"Unborn" (never born) negates the "child".
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Papa Jack corrected:
You must be new here. I've been posting the following
for years to prove you're wrong.
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BOB wrote:
Big deal. You have been posting the same anti-choice
lies and bs for years and it looks like you will con-
tinue to do so. Your alleged "proof" doesn't hold water.
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Papa Jack commented:
Let's see -- you're saying dictionaries don't "hold
water" when it comes to defining words.
I used:
* Merriam Webster dictionary
* American Heritage Dictionary
* Black's Law Dictionary
* Medical dictionary
But, you expect our readers to just take your word
for it that all these highly respected dictionaries
are wrong and you're right????????
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Papa Jack wrote:
http://www.merriamwebster.com/
Main Entry: child
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English cild; akin to
Gothic kilthei womb, and perhaps to Sanskrit jathara belly
1 a : an UNBORN or recently born person...
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http://www.bartleby.com/61/13/C0291300.html
The American Heritage Dictionary
Child:
1. A person between birth and puberty. 2a. An UNBORN INFANT;
a FETUS. ...
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Black's Law Dictionary, 6th ed., 1990)
http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/abtrbng/terms.htm
Child; Children. Progeny; offspring of parentage. UNBORN or
recently
born HUMAN BEING. Wilson v. Weaver, 358 F.Supp. 1147, 1154. . .
Unborn child. The individual human life in existence and developing
prior to birth. A CHILD NOT YET BORN at the happening of an
event....
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Medical dictionary
http://www.intelihealth.com/cgi-bin/dictionary.cgi?book=Medical&adv=1&t=9276&p=%7Ebr%2CIHW%7C%7Est%2C9276%7C%7Er%2CWSIHW045%7C%7Eb%2C*%7C&WEB_HOME=%2FIH%2F&WEB_HOST=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.intelihealth.com&MIVAL=ihtIH&va=child&vao=Entry+Word&fl=&sl=&df=&dfo=Defining+Text&search.x=15&search.y=3
Main Entry: child
1 : an UNBORN or recently born PERSON
2 : a young person especially between infancy and youth
- with child : PREGNANT
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So, you see, BOB, the term "unborn child" is totally
appropriate according to legal, medical, and general
dictionaries.
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BOB wrote:
Do you konw what the prefix "un" means?
un·born Audio pronunciation of "unborn" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (n-bôrn)
adj.
1. Not yet born: an unborn child.
2. Not yet appeared; future: unborn inventions.
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Papa Jack ROTFLMAO:
I give definitions from four respected dictionaries,
but you say they "don't hold water." You give one
definition from an unknown dictionary which is not
directly related to the word in question -- but,
you think this one definition from an unknown
source is supposed to overcome all the ones I gave.
Why do you think that BOB?
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BOB wrote:
You are a liar and an anti-choice loon. If you don't
like abortions, don't have one.
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Papa Jack shook his head:
That's and old, trite, and illogical statement put out
by the abortion industry years ago. Little parrots
like you keep repeating it. [sigh]
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BOB wrote:
OK. You are a liar and an anti-choice loon. If you don't
like abortions, don't have one.
Works for me.
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Papa Jack agreed:
Yep, I understand why too, Little Parrot.
Polly want a cracker?
.
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| Title: Re: Watch Me in the Womb |
10 Jul 2004 09:28:15 PM |
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(papa jack) wrote in
news:bd9f1f6b.0407101534.50372f85@posting.google.com:
BOB <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
news:<Xns9520C40F040B9SD@68.6.19.6>...
(papa jack) wrote:
BOB <sd@sd.net> wrote:
(papa jack) wrote:
BOB <SD> wrote:
(papa jack) wrote:
Bob <sd@sd.net> wrote:
(papa jack) wrote:
Bob <sd@sd.net> wrote:
(papa jack) wrote:
Bob <SD> wrote:
(papa jack) wrote:
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[snip]
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BOB wrote:
...Your so-called "truth" is nothing but more lies and deceit
from the anti-choice loons.
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Papa Jack challenged:
Prove | | | | | | | | | | | |
