Science > Abortion > "We Killed Jesus And We Are Proud Of It", Boast Israeli Settlers - Are You Proud of Your Support of Israel, Americans?
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"We Killed Jesus And We Are Proud Of It", Boast Israeli Settlers - Are You Proud of Your Support of Israel, Americans? |
What do you think about this, American Christian supporters of
Israel?
Did you thought that for Zionists, only Arabs and Muslims are
subhumans? Did you thought that Zionists see you as friends?
Think again.
http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/599
"We killed Jesus and we're proud of it!"
This brief exchange between a couple of deranged [drunk?] teenage
israeli 'settlers' and a British film crew is a glaring example of
everything that's wrong with the 'Promised Land' . . .
Teenage settler [to Cameraman]: "You *****!
You and your fucking Jesus can kiss my *****, ok?!!
[Not clear who says "Go away!"]
Teenage settler: "Screw you! Screw your mothers!
No camera! No camera! I break your camera - don't take pictures,
okay?! Screw you, you Nazi!
You ***** - don't take camera! I break your camera; don't take picture.
[something in Hebrew?] We don't want picture, no picture.
[teenage settler moves closer to Cameraman]
Cameraman: "Please, please, you need - you can't come in here, this is
not your house."
Teenage settler [now walking away]: "We killed Jesus and we're proud
of it!
This is our land! Get the ***** out of here!
This is my land, you *****!"
Cameraman: "This is not your land - it belongs to these families."
Teenage settler: "You *****! We're going to kill you and the
Palestinians! you . . . you Nazi, son of a *****!
[something in Hebrew?]
This is my land! God gave it to me!
***** YOU! Nazi! call everyone you want, I'm going to kill you!
Bastards! This is my house! This is my land! God gave it to me! and
***** you!
Setting aside the fact that no one alive today can lay personal claim
to the dubious distinction of having "killed Jesus," it is pretty
obvious that, had Jesus been around today, these are precisely the
type of psychos who would try to kill him.
That said, it's ironic that many Jews constantly complain that
'ruthless anti-semites' continue to blame them, 'as a people,' for
crucifying Jesus - they even make up stories to justify it - yet, here
are these two psycopaths basking in 'the collective glory' of having
crucified him.
And you know this kind of attitude doesn't spring from nowhere - THEY
LEARNED THIS FROM THEIR FAMILIES.
What possesses a people to exhibit such die-hard collectivism and such
utter contempt for the rest of humanity?
More importantly - are these the glorious people 'chosen' to inherit
the 'promised land' - deranged sociopaths who can't utter two
sentences without spewing threats and profanity and boasting about how
their ancesters (who aren't really their ancestors since these young
men are clearly ASHKENAZI) killed a historical and spiritual figure
loved and revered by billions of people around the world - Christians
and Muslims alike?
And he has the nerve to call the victim of his belligerent abuse a
'nazi'! (That little irony alone is more meaningful than zionists care
to admit.)
What kind of collective insanity grips the world as it stands by while
this fringe pack of psycho groupies lays waste to the Holy Land?
I realize that many good people of the Jewish faith would denounce
these little cretins and gasp at their vicious vulgarity.
So, please do.
Because this has gone on for far too long.
Please, pass this on - not as a condemnation of all Jews, but as a
testament to how some of them condemn the rest of us to the status of
second class humans.
Enough is enough.
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06 Mar 2007 03:26:23 AM |
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Did you thought that for Zionists.
At this point either you're not a native English speaker of a retarded
English speaker.
IF you're the first. Then before ranting in English please learn it.
If you're the second. Go back to school.
As for the Zionists claiming they killed Jesus? Well done. According
to the Bible that was the plan and killing him didn't seem to stop his
weird little cult from growing.
Who cares if they killed Jesus? He's been dead for nearly 2000 years,
get over it.
The sooner all of these religious brats grow up the better.
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| User: "Free Lunch" |
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06 Mar 2007 03:30:00 AM |
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On 6 Mar 2007 01:26:23 -0800, in alt.atheism
"chunkylimey" <chunkylimey@gmail.com> wrote in
<1173173183.100497.155180@q40g2000cwq.googlegroups.com>:
Did you thought that for Zionists.
At this point either you're not a native English speaker of a retarded
English speaker.
IF you're the first. Then before ranting in English please learn it.
If you're the second. Go back to school.
As for the Zionists claiming they killed Jesus? Well done. According
to the Bible that was the plan and killing him didn't seem to stop his
weird little cult from growing.
Actually, the Gospels tell us that the Jews did not kill Jesus, that it
was done by the Romans.
Who cares if they killed Jesus? He's been dead for nearly 2000 years,
get over it.
The sooner all of these religious brats grow up the better.
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| User: "Mettas Mother" |
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06 Mar 2007 03:23:41 AM |
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Just like the jews did not kill Saddam, it was done by the Americans!
"Free Lunch" <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
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On 6 Mar 2007 01:26:23 -0800, in alt.atheism
"chunkylimey" <chunkylimey@gmail.com> wrote in
<1173173183.100497.155180@q40g2000cwq.googlegroups.com>:
Did you thought that for Zionists.
At this point either you're not a native English speaker of a retarded
English speaker.
IF you're the first. Then before ranting in English please learn it.
If you're the second. Go back to school.
As for the Zionists claiming they killed Jesus? Well done. According
to the Bible that was the plan and killing him didn't seem to stop his
weird little cult from growing.
Actually, the Gospels tell us that the Jews did not kill Jesus, that it
was done by the Romans.
Who cares if they killed Jesus? He's been dead for nearly 2000 years,
get over it.
The sooner all of these religious brats grow up the better.
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| User: "baby_ifritah" |
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06 Mar 2007 04:00:48 AM |
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"Mettas Mother" <Mettas_Mother1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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But GOD is an Atheist!
but not an anarchist. stop flaming.
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| User: "Mettas Mother" |
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06 Mar 2007 04:17:53 AM |
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GOD is still an ATHEIST, regardless!
"baby_ifritah" <baby_ifritah@optusnet.c0m.au> wrote in message
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"Mettas Mother" <Mettas_Mother1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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But GOD is an Atheist!
but not an anarchist. stop flaming.
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| User: "cactus" |
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06 Mar 2007 11:39:48 AM |
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Mettas Mother wrote:
Just like the jews did not kill Saddam, it was done by the Americans!
"Free Lunch" <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
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On 6 Mar 2007 01:26:23 -0800, in alt.atheism
"chunkylimey" <chunkylimey@gmail.com> wrote in
<1173173183.100497.155180@q40g2000cwq.googlegroups.com>:
Did you thought that for Zionists.
At this point either you're not a native English speaker of a retarded
English speaker.
IF you're the first. Then before ranting in English please learn it.
If you're the second. Go back to school.
As for the Zionists claiming they killed Jesus? Well done. According
to the Bible that was the plan and killing him didn't seem to stop his
weird little cult from growing.
Actually, the Gospels tell us that the Jews did not kill Jesus, that it
was done by the Romans.
Who cares if they killed Jesus? He's been dead for nearly 2000 years,
get over it.
The sooner all of these religious brats grow up the better.
Top posting is considered rude. But then again, etiquette is beneath you.
But you got it wrong, as usual - The Iraqis executed Saddam after trial
and conviction. The Americans and allies certainly drove him from
power, but his own people actually executed him.
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06 Mar 2007 11:30:21 AM |
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So under whose custody was Saddam in all the time!?
Do you really believe that Bush would have let him walk?
The USA could have easily sent him to the International Court of Justice in
the Hague and have him tried for Crimes Against Humanity!
But Alas! Europe do not have the Death Penalty that Bush wanted for Saddam!
The VERDICT was decided even before the trial begun!
"cactus" <bm1@nonespam.com> wrote in message
news:EHhHh.1668$8i6.1268@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
But you got it wrong, as usual - The Iraqis executed Saddam after trial
and conviction. The Americans and allies certainly drove him from
power, but his own people actually executed him.
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27 Feb 2007 10:13:37 PM |
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Alpha Bravo Charlie wrote:
Please, pass this on - not as a condemnation of all Jews, but as a
testament to how some of them condemn the rest of us to the status of
second class humans.
Oh, horseshit. You've never had anything to do with teenagers of any
persuasion, have you?
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Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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28 Feb 2007 11:06:46 PM |
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In article <27277507.aoIyIgbZAj@montana.com> bowman
<bowman@montana.com> wrote:
Alpha Bravo Charlie wrote:
Please, pass this on - not as a condemnation of all Jews, but as a
testament to how some of them condemn the rest of us to the status of
second class humans.
Oh, horseshit. You've never had anything to do with teenagers of any
persuasion, have you?
Anyway, these people were idiots. The protestors were
ordinary bleeding heart and brain dead leftists who do not
care about jesus.
The settlers shall cry "We killed Marx" or "We killed Noam
Chumpsky" :-)
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01 Mar 2007 06:54:24 AM |
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On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 06:06:46 +0100, Avi <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
In article <27277507.aoIyIgbZAj@montana.com> bowman
<bowman@montana.com> wrote:
Alpha Bravo Charlie wrote:
Please, pass this on - not as a condemnation of all Jews, but as a
testament to how some of them condemn the rest of us to the status of
second class humans.
Oh, horseshit. You've never had anything to do with teenagers of any
persuasion, have you?
Anyway, these people were idiots. The protestors were
ordinary bleeding heart and brain dead leftists who do not
care about jesus.
Sorry, Skippy, but the ones who *do* care about Jeebus are the
brain-dead ones...
The settlers shall cry "We killed Marx" or "We killed Noam
Chumpsky" :-)
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28 Feb 2007 04:01:47 PM |
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Alpha Bravo Charlie wrote:
What do you think about this, American Christian supporters of
Israel?
<snip>
I realize that many good people of the Jewish faith would denounce
these little cretins and gasp at their vicious vulgarity.
So, please do.
Because this has gone on for far too long.
Please, pass this on - not as a condemnation of all Jews, but as a
testament to how some of them condemn the rest of us to the status of
second class humans.
Enough is enough.
So perhaps I should point out the films made about skinheads in the USA,
point out that they are Americans, worship Hitler, hate all minorities and
hold them up in this manner with the same inane disclaimer?
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28 Feb 2007 11:06:49 PM |
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In article
<1172635192.442427.21620@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
"Alpha Bravo Charlie" <aseasyasabc@myway.com> wrote:
What do you think about this, American Christian supporters of
Israel?
Did you thought that for Zionists, only Arabs and Muslims are
subhumans? Did you thought that Zionists see you as friends?
Dear Victor Charlie, did you thought that hamas, hezbollah
and al quida see you and your fellow leftist and neonazi
idiots as friends?
Or are you looking forward to the day when the victorius
warriors of islam will cut your throat (or, if you are young
and good looking, just your balls)?
Think again.
Ditto.
http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/599
"We killed Jesus and we're proud of it!"
This brief exchange between a couple of deranged [drunk?] teenage
israeli 'settlers' and a British film crew is a glaring example of
everything that's wrong with the 'Promised Land' . . .
Can any christian explain to me what is wrong with killing
jesus?
According to your faith, jesus was born on earth to be
killed and save you with his death.
Now, imagine that no one would be willing to kill him and
poor yoshke would be wandering with his hippy friends till
he died on plague, cholera, syphilis or other natural death.
In this case, there would be no salvation and you christians
will end in hell - for forever.
The fact that christians for 2000 years murdered Jews for
"killing jesus" is something even more crazy and insane that
christianiy itself. If they took their faith seriously, they
shall be thanking them for their salvation!
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01 Mar 2007 11:57:13 AM |
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Avi <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
In article
<1172635192.442427.21620@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
"Alpha Bravo Charlie" <aseasyasabc@myway.com> wrote:
What do you think about this, American Christian supporters of
Israel?
Did you thought that for Zionists, only Arabs and Muslims are
subhumans? Did you thought that Zionists see you as friends?
Dear Victor Charlie, did you thought that hamas, hezbollah
and al quida see you and your fellow leftist and neonazi
idiots as friends?
Israel has killed far more people than has Hamas, Hezbollah, and al
Qaeda. Combined.
Or are you looking forward to the day when the victorius
warriors of islam will cut your throat
According to a recent poll done by the University of Maryland,
Americans are more likely to support attacks against civilians
than citizens of every other Muslim country except Nigeria. This
poll challenges the popular belief that Islam is a religion of war
and the United States is a nation of peace.
http://fraudwasteabuse.wordpress.com/2007/02/25/americans-more-likely-to-support-attacks-on-civilians-than-muslims
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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28 Feb 2007 12:54:16 AM |
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On 27 Feb 2007 19:59:52 -0800, "Alpha Bravo Charlie"
<aseasyasabc@myway.com> wrote:
What do you think about this, American Christian supporters of
Israel?
Did you thought that for Zionists, only Arabs and Muslims are
subhumans? Did you thought that Zionists see you as friends?
Think again.
http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/599
"We killed Jesus and we're proud of it!"
This brief exchange between a couple of deranged [drunk?] teenage
israeli 'settlers' and a British film crew is a glaring example of
everything that's wrong with the 'Promised Land' . . .
Teenage settler [to Cameraman]: "You *****!
You and your fucking Jesus can kiss my *****, ok?!!
[Not clear who says "Go away!"]
Teenage settler: "Screw you! Screw your mothers!
No camera! No camera! I break your camera - don't take pictures,
okay?! Screw you, you Nazi!
You ***** - don't take camera! I break your camera; don't take picture.
[something in Hebrew?] We don't want picture, no picture.
[teenage settler moves closer to Cameraman]
Cameraman: "Please, please, you need - you can't come in here, this is
not your house."
Teenage settler [now walking away]: "We killed Jesus and we're proud
of it!
This is our land! Get the ***** out of here!
This is my land, you *****!"
Cameraman: "This is not your land - it belongs to these families."
Teenage settler: "You *****! We're going to kill you and the
Palestinians! you . . . you Nazi, son of a *****!
[something in Hebrew?]
This is my land! God gave it to me!
***** YOU! Nazi! call everyone you want, I'm going to kill you!
Bastards! This is my house! This is my land! God gave it to me! and
***** you!
Setting aside the fact that no one alive today can lay personal claim
to the dubious distinction of having "killed Jesus," it is pretty
obvious that, had Jesus been around today, these are precisely the
type of psychos who would try to kill him.
That said, it's ironic that many Jews constantly complain that
'ruthless anti-semites' continue to blame them, 'as a people,' for
crucifying Jesus - they even make up stories to justify it - yet, here
are these two psycopaths basking in 'the collective glory' of having
crucified him.
And you know this kind of attitude doesn't spring from nowhere - THEY
LEARNED THIS FROM THEIR FAMILIES.
What possesses a people to exhibit such die-hard collectivism and such
utter contempt for the rest of humanity?
More importantly - are these the glorious people 'chosen' to inherit
the 'promised land' - deranged sociopaths who can't utter two
sentences without spewing threats and profanity and boasting about how
their ancesters (who aren't really their ancestors since these young
men are clearly ASHKENAZI) killed a historical and spiritual figure
loved and revered by billions of people around the world - Christians
and Muslims alike?
And he has the nerve to call the victim of his belligerent abuse a
'nazi'! (That little irony alone is more meaningful than zionists care
to admit.)
What kind of collective insanity grips the world as it stands by while
this fringe pack of psycho groupies lays waste to the Holy Land?
I realize that many good people of the Jewish faith would denounce
these little cretins and gasp at their vicious vulgarity.
So, please do.
Because this has gone on for far too long.
Please, pass this on - not as a condemnation of all Jews, but as a
testament to how some of them condemn the rest of us to the status of
second class humans.
Enough is enough.
I'm no supporter of Israel. In fact, I believe the Israeli
*government* (*not* the Israeli people) is as guilty of terrorism as
Al Qaeda, Hamas or any other terrorist organization you'd care to
name. But I hardly think the false bravado of a couple of drunken
morons amounts to much.
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28 Feb 2007 11:06:40 PM |
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In article <sg9au2lpdujqkect0gdlogkk2ef7dil0gd@4ax.com> John
Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:
I'm no supporter of Israel. In fact, I believe the Israeli
*government* (*not* the Israeli people) is as guilty of terrorism as
Al Qaeda, Hamas or any other terrorist organization you'd care to
name. But I hardly think the false bravado of a couple of drunken
morons amounts to much.
Reality check: Israel has over 200 nuclear weapons.
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/israel/nuke/
If Israeli government were like hamas or hezbollah, who use
all their power to attack jews, there would not be one
muslim left alive on the face of the earth.
Do not cry wolf, comrade.
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01 Mar 2007 11:54:59 AM |
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Avi <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
In article <sg9au2lpdujqkect0gdlogkk2ef7dil0gd@4ax.com> John
Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:
I'm no supporter of Israel. In fact, I believe the Israeli
*government* (*not* the Israeli people) is as guilty of terrorism as
Al Qaeda, Hamas or any other terrorist organization you'd care to
name. But I hardly think the false bravado of a couple of drunken
morons amounts to much.
Reality check: Israel has over 200 nuclear weapons.
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/israel/nuke/
If Israeli government were like hamas or hezbollah, who use
all their power to attack jews, there would not be one
muslim left alive on the face of the earth.
The key detail being that Israel doesn't need to use all of its power
to attack and subjugate other people. It can, and does, subjugate
people using only conventional weapons.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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28 Feb 2007 04:09:10 PM |
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On Feb 27, 8:59 pm, "Alpha Bravo Charlie" <aseasyas...@myway.com>
wrote:
What do you think about this, American Christian supporters of
Israel?
Uh...we're atheists, here.
<Snip remaining hate speech>
Please take this crap off alt.atheism.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes at dakotacom dot net
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28 Feb 2007 09:00:51 PM |
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On 28 Feb 2007 14:09:10 -0800, "skyeyes"
<skyeyes@dakotacom.net> wrote:
On Feb 27, 8:59 pm, "Alpha Bravo Charlie"
<aseasyas...@myway.com> wrote:
What do you think about this, American Christian
supporters of Israel?
Uh...we're atheists, here.
<Snip remaining hate speech>
Please take this crap off alt.atheism.
So only demonization of Christians is on topic in
alt.atheism?
Interesting thought that.
Let us look into it
Googling alt.atheism for "Christian" I get 2 540 000
threads, and all the ones at the top of the list
demonize Christians in language more savage than Hitler
ranting about Jews.
Googling alt.atheism for "Jewish" I get 400 000,
threads, a reasonably comparable number, but the tone of
those threads is completely different - basically
neutral about Judaism, some moderately pro, some
moderately against, but nothing resembling the quite
deranged rants about Christianity.
Googling alt.atheism for "Muslim" I get the ridiculously
small number of 60 000 threads - ridiculous because it
is Muslims that are doing all the things that the other
threads accuse Christians of doing, further more the
tone is ridiculously sympathetic to Muslims, even
suicide bombing gets a sympathetic spin.
So, I ask myself "Self, how do the denizens of
alt.atheism view the demand that all depictions of the
prophet be adequately respectful?"
Well let us google alt.atheism for Muslim cartoon:
<http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=muslim+cartoon&as_ugroup=alt.atheism>
We get a mere five hundred hits, and most of those hits
seem to be sympathetic to the idea that the Muslims have
a case.
"It was a put up job by Christian and neocon
fascists. "
"****Warning, the following may offend***** "
" Cartoon row: the issue is racism"
"whether Osama bin Laden survives the Bush
government's current war against Israel's
enemies in the Middle East or not, he already
has become immortal. In the eyes of Muslims he
has been elevated to a status in heaven
alongside Mohammed. His name will be praised,
and stories will be told about him around
campfires throughout the Muslim world for
countless generations to come, long after the
Bush government has gone and been forgotten.
Cruise missiles can't take Osama bin Laden's
immortality away from him.
Which leads me to the conclusion that most of
the folk on alt.atheism are not in fact atheists, but
self hating christians.
If, like me, you really know you are not damned, because
your really know there is no god, you don't get all
agitated about these dreadful demoniacal Christians.
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We have the right to defend ourselves and our property, because
of the kind of animals that we are. True law derives from this
right, not from the arbitrary power of the omnipotent state.
http://www.jim.com/ James A. Donald
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28 Feb 2007 11:36:26 PM |
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James A. Donald <jamesd@echeque.com> wrote in message
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On 28 Feb 2007 14:09:10 -0800, "skyeyes"
<skyeyes@dakotacom.net> wrote:
On Feb 27, 8:59 pm, "Alpha Bravo Charlie"
<aseasyas...@myway.com> wrote:
What do you think about this, American Christian
supporters of Israel?
Uh...we're atheists, here.
<Snip remaining hate speech>
Please take this crap off alt.atheism.
So only demonization of Christians is on topic in
alt.atheism?
Interesting thought that.
Let us look into it
Googling alt.atheism for "Christian" I get 2 540 000
threads, and all the ones at the top of the list
demonize Christians in language more savage than Hitler
ranting about Jews.
Googling alt.atheism for "Jewish" I get 400 000,
threads, a reasonably comparable number, but the tone of
those threads is completely different - basically
neutral about Judaism, some moderately pro, some
moderately against, but nothing resembling the quite
deranged rants about Christianity.
Googling alt.atheism for "Muslim" I get the ridiculously
small number of 60 000 threads - ridiculous because it
is Muslims that are doing all the things that the other
threads accuse Christians of doing, further more the
tone is ridiculously sympathetic to Muslims, even
suicide bombing gets a sympathetic spin.
So, I ask myself "Self, how do the denizens of
alt.atheism view the demand that all depictions of the
prophet be adequately respectful?"
Well let us google alt.atheism for Muslim cartoon:
<http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=muslim+cartoon&as_ugroup=alt.atheism>
We get a mere five hundred hits, and most of those hits
seem to be sympathetic to the idea that the Muslims have
a case.
"It was a put up job by Christian and neocon
fascists. "
"****Warning, the following may offend***** "
" Cartoon row: the issue is racism"
"whether Osama bin Laden survives the Bush
government's current war against Israel's
enemies in the Middle East or not, he already
has become immortal. In the eyes of Muslims he
has been elevated to a status in heaven
alongside Mohammed. His name will be praised,
and stories will be told about him around
campfires throughout the Muslim world for
countless generations to come, long after the
Bush government has gone and been forgotten.
Cruise missiles can't take Osama bin Laden's
immortality away from him.
Which leads me to the conclusion that most of
the folk on alt.atheism are not in fact atheists, but
self hating christians.
If, like me, you really know you are not damned, because
your really know there is no god, you don't get all
agitated about these dreadful demoniacal Christians.
And James? James just thinks all muslim men should be killed and the boys
castrated.
So, that's the balanced view from him, then.
--
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We have the right to defend ourselves and our property, because
of the kind of animals that we are. True law derives from this
right, not from the arbitrary power of the omnipotent state.
http://www.jim.com/ James A. Donald
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28 Feb 2007 09:21:39 PM |
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On Feb 28, 10:00 pm, James A. Donald <jam...@echeque.com> wrote:
On 28 Feb 2007 14:09:10 -0800, "skyeyes"
<skye...@dakotacom.net> wrote:
On Feb 27, 8:59 pm, "Alpha Bravo Charlie"
<aseasyas...@myway.com> wrote:
What do you think about this, American Christian
supporters of Israel?
Uh...we're atheists, here.
<Snip remaining hate speech>
Please take this crap off alt.atheism.
So only demonization of Christians is on topic in
alt.atheism?
Interesting thought that.
Let us look into it
Googling alt.atheism for "Christian" I get 2 540 000
threads, and all the ones at the top of the list
demonize Christians in language more savage than Hitler
ranting about Jews.
Googling alt.atheism for "Jewish" I get 400 000,
threads, a reasonably comparable number, but the tone of
those threads is completely different - basically
neutral about Judaism, some moderately pro, some
moderately against, but nothing resembling the quite
deranged rants about Christianity.
Googling alt.atheism for "Muslim" I get the ridiculously
small number of 60 000 threads - ridiculous because it
is Muslims that are doing all the things that the other
threads accuse Christians of doing, further more the
tone is ridiculously sympathetic to Muslims, even
suicide bombing gets a sympathetic spin.
So, I ask myself "Self, how do the denizens of
alt.atheism view the demand that all depictions of the
prophet be adequately respectful?"
Well let us google alt.atheism for Muslim cartoon:
<http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=muslim+cartoon&as_ugroup=alt.ath...>
We get a mere five hundred hits, and most of those hits
seem to be sympathetic to the idea that the Muslims have
a case.
"It was a put up job by Christian and neocon
fascists. "
"****Warning, the following may offend***** "
" Cartoon row: the issue is racism"
"whether Osama bin Laden survives the Bush
government's current war against Israel's
enemies in the Middle East or not, he already
has become immortal. In the eyes of Muslims he
has been elevated to a status in heaven
alongside Mohammed. His name will be praised,
and stories will be told about him around
campfires throughout the Muslim world for
countless generations to come, long after the
Bush government has gone and been forgotten.
Cruise missiles can't take Osama bin Laden's
immortality away from him.
Which leads me to the conclusion that most of
the folk on alt.atheism are not in fact atheists, but
self hating christians.
If, like me, you really know you are not damned, because
your really know there is no god, you don't get all
agitated about these dreadful demoniacal Christians.
--
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We have the right to defend ourselves and our property, because
of the kind of animals that we are. True law derives from this
right, not from the arbitrary power of the omnipotent state.
http://www.jim.com/ James A. Donald
No, *****. Jews don't proselytize, and Jews don't preach
intolerance from the pulpit. Besides, they're less than 5% of the
population. By your calculations the mention of Jews and Judaism is
overrepresented. Look, Sport, there's more to life than the inside of
your trailor. Get out, finish school, find a woman and feel good about
yourself for once.
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28 Feb 2007 10:09:30 PM |
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James A. Donald:
So only demonization of Christians is on topic in
alt.atheism?
Interesting thought that.
Let us look into it
Googling alt.atheism for "Christian" I get 2 540 000
threads, and all the ones at the top of the list
demonize Christians in language more savage than
Hitler ranting about Jews.
Googling alt.atheism for "Jewish" I get 400 000,
threads, a reasonably comparable number, but the
tone of those threads is completely different -
basically neutral about Judaism, some moderately
pro, some moderately against, but nothing resembling
the quite deranged rants about Christianity.
Googling alt.atheism for "Muslim" I get the
ridiculously small number of 60 000 threads -
ridiculous because it is Muslims that are doing all
the things that the other threads accuse Christians
of doing, further more the tone is ridiculously
sympathetic to Muslims, even suicide bombing gets a
sympathetic spin.
So, I ask myself "Self, how do the denizens of
alt.atheism view the demand that all depictions of
the prophet be adequately respectful?"
Well let us google alt.atheism for Muslim cartoon:
<http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=muslim+cartoon&as_ugroup=alt.ath...>
We get a mere five hundred hits, and most of those
hits seem to be sympathetic to the idea that the
Muslims have a case.
"It was a put up job by Christian and neocon
fascists. "
"****Warning, the following may offend*****
"
" Cartoon row: the issue is racism"
"whether Osama bin Laden survives the Bush
government's current war against Israel's
enemies in the Middle East or not, he
already has become immortal. In the eyes of
Muslims he has been elevated to a status in
heaven alongside Mohammed. His name will be
praised, and stories will be told about him
around campfires throughout the Muslim world
for countless generations to come, long
after the Bush government has gone and been
forgotten. Cruise missiles can't take Osama
bin Laden's immortality away from him.
Which leads me to the conclusion that most of the
folk on alt.atheism are not in fact atheists, but
self hating christians.
If, like me, you really know you are not damned,
because your really know there is no god, you don't
get all agitated about these dreadful demoniacal
Christians.
"t1gercat" <wexford1778@yahoo.com>
No, *****. Jews don't proselytize, and Jews don't
preach intolerance from the pulpit.
True they don't proselytize, but they preach intolerance
from the pulpit no more and no less than Christians, and
Muslims *do* proselytize, and they *do* preach
intolerance from the pulpit one hell of a lot more than
Christians.
Why then do Muslims get a free pass? And not merely a
free pass, but quite a bit of support?
Besides, they're less than 5% of the population.
And Muslims even less, but Muslims are doing one hell of
a lot more of the stuff you are complaining about than
Christians are. Where are the riots over ***** Christ?
By your calculations the mention of Jews and Judaism
is overrepresented.
Let us break it down by favorable, unfavorable, and
demonizing mention. Demonizing and dehumanizing mentions
of Jews and Judaism are way under represented, which is
of course what provoked my post.
Further, mentions of Muslims are way under represented.
Muslims are 1% of the American population, they commit
the great majority of hateful religiously motivated
incidents in America, a much larger proportion of the
European population and close to 100% of the hateful
religious motivated incidents in Europe, and they get
mentioned in threads a good deal less than 1% as often
as Christians in alt.atheism. Further, Muslims are
generally defended in alt.atheism while Christians are
generally demonized.: Supposedly the cartoon riots
were organized by Christians and Jews^H^H^H^HNeocons.
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We have the right to defend ourselves and our property, because
of the kind of animals that we are. True law derives from this
right, not from the arbitrary power of the omnipotent state.
http://www.jim.com/ James A. Donald
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28 Feb 2007 10:05:00 PM |
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On Feb 28, 7:21 pm, "t1gercat" <wexford1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Feb 28, 10:00 pm, James A. Donald <jam...@echeque.com> wrote:
On 28 Feb 2007 14:09:10 -0800, "skyeyes"
<skye...@dakotacom.net> wrote:
On Feb 27, 8:59 pm, "Alpha Bravo Charlie"
<aseasyas...@myway.com> wrote:
What do you think about this, American Christian
supporters of Israel?
Uh...we're atheists, here.
<Snip remaining hate speech>
Please take this crap off alt.atheism.
So only demonization of Christians is on topic in
alt.atheism?
Interesting thought that.
Let us look into it
Googling alt.atheism for "Christian" I get 2 540 000
threads, and all the ones at the top of the list
demonize Christians in language more savage than Hitler
ranting about Jews.
Googling alt.atheism for "Jewish" I get 400 000,
threads, a reasonably comparable number, but the tone of
those threads is completely different - basically
neutral about Judaism, some moderately pro, some
moderately against, but nothing resembling the quite
deranged rants about Christianity.
Googling alt.atheism for "Muslim" I get the ridiculously
small number of 60 000 threads - ridiculous because it
is Muslims that are doing all the things that the other
threads accuse Christians of doing, further more the
tone is ridiculously sympathetic to Muslims, even
suicide bombing gets a sympathetic spin.
So, I ask myself "Self, how do the denizens of
alt.atheism view the demand that all depictions of the
prophet be adequately respectful?"
Well let us google alt.atheism for Muslim cartoon:
<http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=muslim+cartoon&as_ugroup=alt.ath...>
We get a mere five hundred hits, and most of those hits
seem to be sympathetic to the idea that the Muslims have
a case.
"It was a put up job by Christian and neocon
fascists. "
"****Warning, the following may offend***** "
" Cartoon row: the issue is racism"
"whether Osama bin Laden survives the Bush
government's current war against Israel's
enemies in the Middle East or not, he already
has become immortal. In the eyes of Muslims he
has been elevated to a status in heaven
alongside Mohammed. His name will be praised,
and stories will be told about him around
campfires throughout the Muslim world for
countless generations to come, long after the
Bush government has gone and been forgotten.
Cruise missiles can't take Osama bin Laden's
immortality away from him.
Which leads me to the conclusion that most of
the folk on alt.atheism are not in fact atheists, but
self hating christians.
If, like me, you really know you are not damned, because
your really know there is no god, you don't get all
agitated about these dreadful demoniacal Christians.
--
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We have the right to defend ourselves and our property, because
of the kind of animals that we are. True law derives from this
right, not from the arbitrary power of the omnipotent state.
http://www.jim.com/ James A. Donald
No, *****. Jews don't proselytize,
No Jews, nowhere, ever? that is a very broad statement, and not
really true. The Chabad Lubivitch eagerly missionizes -- they
consider it a part of their religious duties.
and Jews don't preach
intolerance from the pulpit.
Nonsense. Rabbis don't have a pulpet, of course, but rabbis have
published many empassioned speeches and articles exorting Jews to
marry only Jews, never marry Gentiles.
It is a racist thingee, or religious intelerance? Whichever, since it
passes for intolerance in any other group, it should be counted the
same for Jews.
Most people would say that calling people "*****" is a form of
intolerance.
Besides, they're less than 5% of the
population.
Perhaps. That figure is not proven. Only 10 years ago, they claimed
to be 3% pf the population. And they do cluster around the White
House and federal think tanks, don't they.
TCross
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01 Mar 2007 11:55:47 AM |
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On Feb 28, 11:05 pm, "Terry Cross" <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Feb 28, 7:21 pm, "t1gercat" <wexford1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Feb 28, 10:00 pm, James A. Donald <jam...@echeque.com> wrote:
On 28 Feb 2007 14:09:10 -0800, "skyeyes"
<skye...@dakotacom.net> wrote:
On Feb 27, 8:59 pm, "Alpha Bravo Charlie"
<aseasyas...@myway.com> wrote:
What do you think about this, American Christian
supporters of Israel?
Uh...we're atheists, here.
<Snip remaining hate speech>
Please take this crap off alt.atheism.
So only demonization of Christians is on topic in
alt.atheism?
Interesting thought that.
Let us look into it
Googling alt.atheism for "Christian" I get 2 540 000
threads, and all the ones at the top of the list
demonize Christians in language more savage than Hitler
ranting about Jews.
Googling alt.atheism for "Jewish" I get 400 000,
threads, a reasonably comparable number, but the tone of
those threads is completely different - basically
neutral about Judaism, some moderately pro, some
moderately against, but nothing resembling the quite
deranged rants about Christianity.
Googling alt.atheism for "Muslim" I get the ridiculously
small number of 60 000 threads - ridiculous because it
is Muslims that are doing all the things that the other
threads accuse Christians of doing, further more the
tone is ridiculously sympathetic to Muslims, even
suicide bombing gets a sympathetic spin.
So, I ask myself "Self, how do the denizens of
alt.atheism view the demand that all depictions of the
prophet be adequately respectful?"
Well let us google alt.atheism for Muslim cartoon:
<http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=muslim+cartoon&as_ugroup=alt.ath...>
We get a mere five hundred hits, and most of those hits
seem to be sympathetic to the idea that the Muslims have
a case.
"It was a put up job by Christian and neocon
fascists. "
"****Warning, the following may offend***** "
" Cartoon row: the issue is racism"
"whether Osama bin Laden survives the Bush
government's current war against Israel's
enemies in the Middle East or not, he already
has become immortal. In the eyes of Muslims he
has been elevated to a status in heaven
alongside Mohammed. His name will be praised,
and stories will be told about him around
campfires throughout the Muslim world for
countless generations to come, long after the
Bush government has gone and been forgotten.
Cruise missiles can't take Osama bin Laden's
immortality away from him.
Which leads me to the conclusion that most of
the folk on alt.atheism are not in fact atheists, but
self hating christians.
If, like me, you really know you are not damned, because
your really know there is no god, you don't get all
agitated about these dreadful demoniacal Christians.
--
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We have the right to defend ourselves and our property, because
of the kind of animals that we are. True law derives from this
right, not from the arbitrary power of the omnipotent state.
http://www.jim.com/ James A. Donald
Interesting comments
No, *****. Jews don't proselytize,
No Jews, nowhere, ever? that is a very broad statement, and not
really true. The Chabad Lubivitch eagerly missionizes -- they
consider it a part of their religious duties.
Never said so Jews ever, anywhere. Various aberrant groups of Jews --
including early Jewish Christians -- reached out for converts. If you
want to get into a pedantic pissing contest, I can name various Rabbis
in Rome prior to and at the time of Christ who eagerly sought
converts. The vast bulk of modern adherents to Judaism don't seek
converts and rarely, if ever, even allow coversion. They'll do it, but
only reluctantly. In any event, I've never had one pound on my door,
stop me in the street, or pass pamphlets to my children, as I have
with various Christian zealots -- Jehova's Witnesses, Baptists,
assorted Christers, Moonies, Mormons and even "ta-da" the Jews for
Jesus.
and Jews don't preach
intolerance from the pulpit.
Nonsense. Rabbis don't have a pulpet, of course, but rabbis have
published many empassioned speeches and articles exorting Jews to
marry only Jews, never marry Gentiles.
Never been in a synagog have you? Some do have pulpits, stained glass
windows, all the trappings of a fine protestant church, except, of
course, a cross.
Rabbis exhort Jews to marry Jews so that the religion can be
sustained. Jews who marry outside Judaism usually stop practicing (if
they ever did), and their children tend to be raised as Christians. I
don't have statistics on this, but I have it on the authority of at
least one notable Rabbi that intermarriage between Jews and Italians
in New York is very common. Italians being Catholic invariably raise
their children as Catholic. The reason Jews want to marry within their
religion stems from the very fact that they don't seek to convert
others. If they don't grow their own population, if intermarriage
leads to the loss of membership, their numbers are affected. In any
event, the desire to marry within the religion doesn't stem from
racial or ethnic bigotry; its origins are in preserving the numbers of
faithful.
It is a racist thingee, or religious intelerance? Whichever, since it
passes for intolerance in any other group, it should be counted the
same for Jews.
Sorry, but I don't follow. Vitually all religions are jealous of their
membership. Catholics are exhorted to marry Catholics or, if that
doesn't occur, to sign a pledge that the children will be raised
Catholic. Mormons are exhorted to marry Mormons. Protestants tend to
adhere less to a particular flavor of the religion (Jehova's
Witnessess and some others excepted), but certainly don't like the
idea of Prods marring Jews who don't convert or, worse, Catholics who
won't join the Prods. Baptists, who are the largest domestic
protestant sect, preach that Catholics, the largest overall Christian
sect, are little more than a cult, a clutch of hell-bound deviants who
follow teachings not condoned in scripture. (Catholics are more
generous, since they preach baptism of desire, but they view Baptists
contemptuously as ignorant bible slappers, which they mostly are.)
If you're looking for jealosy, intolerance and nastiness, follow the
Christians. They are the richest in nastiness and most entertaining of
the lot.
Most people would say that calling people "*****" is a form of
intolerance.
No, it's a personal insult. Acting or speaking with abject ignorance
fortified with arrogance and anti-Semitism is not the height of
intellectual discussion. Calling such person who argues in such a
manner a "*****" is in the fine tradition of Western debate. Read
some of the comments of Luther or, better, Thomas Moore.
Scatologically derived insults and double-meaning phrases, especially
available in Latin, litter their papers.
Besides, they're less than 5% of the
population.
Perhaps. That figure is not proven. Only 10 years ago, they claimed
to be 3% pf the population. And they do cluster around the White
House and federal think tanks, don't they.
Jews have a tradition of excellence in learning. In the United States
(and elsewhere) this often leads to positions of influence in
Government. Their political opinions vary, of course.
Funny, but I seldom pick out the Jews. You apparently look for them.
Being Irish I like to look for the Irish names. Scots do something
similar, or so I'm told. There are many, many Irish at the well of
Government, as advisors, Congressmen, Military Leaders, Civil
Servants, Presidents, et cetera. Scots, of course, and other proud
Gaels, have had positions of power and influence all over the world.
In fact, Scotland has produced many more world leaders of various
sorts than any country its size ever has. There are a few books on
them. Why don't you read one? Try: "How the Scots Invented the Modern
World: The True Story of How Western Europe's Poorest Nation Created
Our World & Everything in It by Arthur Herman. Here's another "Born
Fighting: How the Scots-Irish Shaped America" by James Webb. For the
Irish, there's the classic, "How the Irish Saved Civilisation by
Thomas Cahill." I once met Cahill, by the way. He was warbling about
what he called "the Losangelization of America." At the time I thought
he was a little nuts. Now I see his point.
Funny how no one ever thinks of the Scots or Irish as leading a
sinister group with an evil agenda. They have certainly insinuated
themselves throughout the world, from the Calle O'Donnell in Madrid to
the Eternal Port of Constantinople, to the darkest vistas of Uganda,
to the Russias, China and the South Seas, to vast swaths of the
American population. But, then, there are few Jews among them. Jews
are reserved for the foul obesssions of evil little bigots who like to
focus on small minorities. Especially those minorities who have the
gall to be intellectually and practically successful when allowed to
exercise their gifts in a free society.
Understand, *****?
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02 Mar 2007 12:14:13 AM |
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On Mar 1, 9:55 am, "t1gercat" <wexford1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Feb 28, 11:05 pm, "Terry Cross" <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Feb 28, 7:21 pm, "t1gercat" <wexford1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Feb 28, 10:00 pm, James A. Donald <jam...@echeque.com> wrote:
On 28 Feb 2007 14:09:10 -0800, "skyeyes"
<skye...@dakotacom.net> wrote:
On Feb 27, 8:59 pm, "Alpha Bravo Charlie"
<aseasyas...@myway.com> wrote:
What do you think about this, American Christian
supporters of Israel?
Uh...we're atheists, here.
<Snip remaining hate speech>
Please take this crap off alt.atheism.
So only demonization of Christians is on topic in
alt.atheism?
Interesting thought that.
Let us look into it
Googling alt.atheism for "Christian" I get 2 540 000
threads, and all the ones at the top of the list
demonize Christians in language more savage than Hitler
ranting about Jews.
Googling alt.atheism for "Jewish" I get 400 000,
threads, a reasonably comparable number, but the tone of
those threads is completely different - basically
neutral about Judaism, some moderately pro, some
moderately against, but nothing resembling the quite
deranged rants about Christianity.
Googling alt.atheism for "Muslim" I get the ridiculously
small number of 60 000 threads - ridiculous because it
is Muslims that are doing all the things that the other
threads accuse Christians of doing, further more the
tone is ridiculously sympathetic to Muslims, even
suicide bombing gets a sympathetic spin.
So, I ask myself "Self, how do the denizens of
alt.atheism view the demand that all depictions of the
prophet be adequately respectful?"
Well let us google alt.atheism for Muslim cartoon:
<http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=muslim+cartoon&as_ugroup=alt.ath...>
We get a mere five hundred hits, and most of those hits
seem to be sympathetic to the idea that the Muslims have
a case.
"It was a put up job by Christian and neocon
fascists. "
"****Warning, the following may offend***** "
" Cartoon row: the issue is racism"
"whether Osama bin Laden survives the Bush
government's current war against Israel's
enemies in the Middle East or not, he already
has become immortal. In the eyes of Muslims he
has been elevated to a status in heaven
alongside Mohammed. His name will be praised,
and stories will be told about him around
campfires throughout the Muslim world for
countless generations to come, long after the
Bush government has gone and been forgotten.
Cruise missiles can't take Osama bin Laden's
immortality away from him.
Which leads me to the conclusion that most of
the folk on alt.atheism are not in fact atheists, but
self hating christians.
If, like me, you really know you are not damned, because
your really know there is no god, you don't get all
agitated about these dreadful demoniacal Christians.
--
----------------------
We have the right to defend ourselves and our property, because
of the kind of animals that we are. True law derives from this
right, not from the arbitrary power of the omnipotent state.
http://www.jim.com/ James A. Donald
Interesting comments
No, *****. Jews don't proselytize,
No Jews, nowhere, ever? that is a very broad statement, and not
really true. The Chabad Lubivitch eagerly missionizes -- they
consider it a part of their religious duties.
Never said so Jews ever, anywhere. Various aberrant groups of Jews --
including early Jewish Christians -- reached out for converts. If you
want to get into a pedantic pissing contest, I can name various Rabbis
in Rome prior to and at the time of Christ who eagerly sought
converts. The vast bulk of modern adherents to Judaism don't seek
converts and rarely, if ever, even allow coversion. They'll do it, but
only reluctantly. In any event, I've never had one pound on my door,
stop me in the street, or pass pamphlets to my children, as I have
with various Christian zealots -- Jehova's Witnesses, Baptists,
assorted Christers, Moonies, Mormons and even "ta-da" the Jews for
Jesus.
and Jews don't preach
intolerance from the pulpit.
Nonsense. Rabbis don't have a pulpet, of course, but rabbis have
published many empassioned speeches and articles exorting Jews to
marry only Jews, never marry Gentiles.
Never been in a synagog have you? Some do have pulpits, stained glass
windows, all the trappings of a fine protestant church, except, of
course, a cross.
Rabbis exhort Jews to marry Jews so that the religion can be
sustained.
that is exactly the same reason the White race preaches "no mixed
marriages" - because they want to maintinain the culture and the
religion.
I guess you think that is alright, then, eh?
Jews who marry outside Judaism usually stop practicing (if
they ever did), and their children tend to be raised as Christians.
Even whey they mary Muslims? My stars and bars, what a concept!
I
don't have statistics on this, but I have it on the authority of at
least one notable Rabbi that intermarriage between Jews and Italians
in New York is very common. Italians being Catholic invariably raise
their children as Catholic. The reason Jews want to marry within their
religion stems from the very fact that they don't seek to convert
others.
But of course this is no true - Jews seek desperately to convert their
children to Judaism.
If they don't grow their own population, if intermarriage
leads to the loss of membership, their numbers are affected.
Now you talk like a White Racist again. Isn't that ironic?
In any
event, the desire to marry within the religion doesn't stem from
racial or ethnic bigotry; its origins are in preserving the numbers of
faithful.
Bigotry is bigotry, whether by Whites or Jews. All the fancy excuses
in the world does not change the facts, particularly when everyone
uses the same excuses.
It is a racist thingee, or religious intelerance? Whichever, since it
passes for intolerance in any other group, it should be counted the
same for Jews.
Sorry, but I don't follow. Vitually all religions are jealous of their
membership. Catholics are exhorted to marry Catholics or, if that
doesn't occur, to sign a pledge that the children will be raised
Catholic. Mormons are exhorted to marry Mormons. Protestants tend to
adhere less to a particular flavor of the religion (Jehova's
Witnessess and some others excepted), but certainly don't like the
idea of Prods marring Jews who don't convert or, worse, Catholics who
won't join the Prods. Baptists, who are the largest domestic
protestant sect, preach that Catholics, the largest overall Christian
sect, are little more than a cult, a clutch of hell-bound deviants who
follow teachings not condoned in scripture.
Are you saying that is incorrect? The Jews here say that Catholics
are idolators. What is your opinion of Catholics?
(Catholics are more
generous, since they preach baptism of desire, but they view Baptists
contemptuously as ignorant bible slappers, which they mostly are.)
Good to know you are not free of religious stereotyping.
If you're looking for jealosy, intolerance and nastiness, follow the
Christians.
You just echoed their sentiments, but they are intolerant and you are
not. This is very funny.
They are the richest in nastiness and most entertaining of
the lot.
Of course, your religious hatred is completely non-biased. Isn't that
nice?
Most people would say that calling people "*****" is a form of
intolerance.
No, it's a personal insult. Acting or speaking with abject ignorance
fortified with arrogance and anti-Semitism is not the height of
intellectual discussion.
Anti-Semitism is no worse that any other anti, including anti-Muslim
or anti-Christianity. You exhibit a wide streak of hatred.your own
self.
Calling such person who argues in such a
manner a "*****" is in the fine tradition of Western debate. Read
some of the comments of Luther or, better, Thomas Moore.
Scatologically derived insults and double-meaning phrases, especially
available in Latin, litter their papers.
The Jews claim that Luther was a rabbid anti-Semite. you could find
better models.
Besides, they're less than 5% of the
population.
Perhaps. That figure is not proven. Only 10 years ago, they claimed
to be 3% pf the population. And they do cluster around the White
House and federal think tanks, don't they.
Jews have a tradition of excellence in learning. In the United States
(and elsewhere) this often leads to positions of influence in
Government.
Jews have a reputation of extreme clanishness, nepotism, and
connanvance where other Jews are concerned. It is a Mitzvah that a
Jew should never to turn a nother Jew over to a Gentile court,
regardless of the crime. They have a special word of approbrium that
means something like "fair game" for anyone who breaks that law.
Jews working together have been known to be as lawless and
racketeering as any other mobsters. It is not always a level playing
field.
TCross
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On Mar 2, 1:14 am, "Terry Cross" <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mar 1, 9:55 am, "t1gercat" <wexford1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Feb 28, 11:05 pm, "Terry Cross" <tcros...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Feb 28, 7:21 pm, "t1gercat" <wexford1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Feb 28, 10:00 pm, James A. Donald <jam...@echeque.com> wrote:
On 28 Feb 2007 14:09:10 -0800, "skyeyes"
<skye...@dakotacom.net> wrote:
On Feb 27, 8:59 pm, "Alpha Bravo Charlie"
<aseasyas...@myway.com> wrote:
What do you think about this, American Christian
supporters of Israel?
Uh...we're atheists, here.
<Snip remaining hate speech>
Please take this crap off alt.atheism.
So only demonization of Christians is on topic in
alt.atheism?
Interesting thought that.
Let us look into it
Googling alt.atheism for "Christian" I get 2 540 000
threads, and all the ones at the top of the list
demonize Christians in language more savage than Hitler
ranting about Jews.
Googling alt.atheism for "Jewish" I get 400 000,
threads, a reasonably comparable number, but the tone of
those threads is completely different - basically
neutral about Judaism, some moderately pro, some
moderately against, but nothing resembling the quite
deranged rants about Christianity.
Googling alt.atheism for "Muslim" I get the ridiculously
small number of 60 000 threads - ridiculous because it
is Muslims that are doing all the things that the other
threads accuse Christians of doing, further more the
tone is ridiculously sympathetic to Muslims, even
suicide bombing gets a sympathetic spin.
So, I ask myself "Self, how do the denizens of
alt.atheism view the demand that all depictions of the
prophet be adequately respectful?"
Well let us google alt.atheism for Muslim cartoon:
<http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=muslim+cartoon&as_ugroup=alt.ath...>
We get a mere five hundred hits, and most of those hits
seem to be sympathetic to the idea that the Muslims have
a case.
"It was a put up job by Christian and neocon
fascists. "
"****Warning, the following may offend***** "
" Cartoon row: the issue is racism"
"whether Osama bin Laden survives the Bush
government's current war against Israel's
enemies in the Middle East or not, he already
has become immortal. In the eyes of Muslims he
has been elevated to a status in heaven
alongside Mohammed. His name will be praised,
and stories will be told about him around
campfires throughout the Muslim world for
countless generations to come, long after the
Bush government has gone and been forgotten.
Cruise missiles can't take Osama bin Laden's
immortality away from him.
Which leads me to the conclusion that most of
the folk on alt.atheism are not in fact atheists, but
self hating christians.
If, like me, you really know you are not damned, because
your really know there is no god, you don't get all
agitated about these dreadful demoniacal Christians.
--
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We have the right to defend ourselves and our property, because
of the kind of animals that we are. True law derives from this
right, not from the arbitrary power of the omnipotent state.
http://www.jim.com/ James A. Donald
Interesting comments
No, *****. Jews don't proselytize,
No Jews, nowhere, ever? that is a very broad statement, and not
really true. The Chabad Lubivitch eagerly missionizes -- they
consider it a part of their religious duties.
Never said so Jews ever, anywhere. Various aberrant groups of Jews --
including early Jewish Christians -- reached out for converts. If you
want to get into a pedantic pissing contest, I can name various Rabbis
in Rome prior to and at the time of Christ who eagerly sought
converts. The vast bulk of modern adherents to Judaism don't seek
converts and rarely, if ever, even allow coversion. They'll do it, but
only reluctantly. In any event, I've never had one pound on my door,
stop me in the street, or pass pamphlets to my children, as I have
with various Christian zealots -- Jehova's Witnesses, Baptists,
assorted Christers, Moonies, Mormons and even "ta-da" the Jews for
Jesus.
and Jews don't preach
intolerance from the pulpit.
Nonsense. Rabbis don't have a pulpet, of course, but rabbis have
published many empassioned speeches and articles exorting Jews to
marry only Jews, never marry Gentiles.
Never been in a synagog have you? Some do have pulpits, stained glass
windows, all the trappings of a fine protestant church, except, of
course, a cross.
Cross proves he's a *****.
Rabbis exhort Jews to marry Jews so that the religion can be
sustained.
that is exactly the same reason the White race preaches "no mixed
marriages" - because they want to maintinain the culture and the
religion.
Actually, according to an old text I have from the very Christian
Moody Bible institute, miscegenation is abhorrent to GOD ALMIGHTY.
They cite Solomon in the Bible who married outside his race and was
punished for it. The laws governing miscegenation, incidentially, were
not crafted especially to protect wht "white race" (whatever that is),
but to keep all races within their bounds. Indians could only marry
Indians. Whites could only marry whites. Orientals could only marry
Orientals. Negroes could only marry Negores. This was, supposedly, a
CHRISTIAN concept, Biblically derived. The separation of the races was
supposedly God's design and should not be changed.
"Racism" is usually defined as the theory that one race is superior to
the others. Miscegenation laws were designed to preserve racial
boundries. You can argue that such laws are an artifact of racism, and
they are, at least in the United States, but they were not crafted as
specificially racist, but as consistent with Christian thought.
I guess you think that is alright, then, eh?
Jews who marry outside Judaism usually stop practicing (if
they ever did), and their children tend to be raised as Christians.
Even whey they mary Muslims? My stars and bars, what a concept!
I was speaking of the United States and the common problem Jews face
here (and in Europe). You are such an *****.
I
don't have statistics on this, but I have it on the authority of at
least one notable Rabbi that intermarriage between Jews and Italians
in New York is very common. Italians being Catholic invariably raise
their children as Catholic. The reason Jews want to marry within their
religion stems from the very fact that they don't seek to convert
others.
But of course this is no true - Jews seek desperately to convert their
children to Judaism.
Uh... and Christians, Moslems, whatever, don't spend years
brainwashing their children?
If they don't grow their own population, if intermarriage
leads to the loss of membership, their numbers are affected.
Now you talk like a White Racist again. Isn't that ironic?
Obviously you don't understand the distinction between racism and
religion, but that's forgiveable since Christianity as practiced by
whites and white racism were bound so tightly for so long.
In any
event, the desire to marry within the religion doesn't stem from
racial or ethnic bigotry; its origins are in preserving the numbers of
faithful.
Bigotry is bigotry, whether by Whites or Jews. All the fancy excuses
in the world does not change the facts, particularly when everyone
uses the same excuses.
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