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"Osprey" |
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30 Jan 2004 05:50:44 PM |
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What does Kerry stand for? |
I went to the John Kerry website, hoping to learn more about his issues and
his ideas. All I really saw was information about himself or Bush bashing.
Not much on his ideas, solutions, issues.
I know from reading the papers, his voting record for the senate is
horrible. I also know about his protesting and throwing his medals over the
fence at the White House.
Which I can understand to a point, because he felt his government let him
down.
I will not question his military service, it appears he is to be given a
salute for his contributions.
What I am questioning though is, leaving out all the Bush bashing, just who
is John Kerry? What does he stand for? What are his issues? What are his
solutions?
If this is the man that Democrats may endorse, I think we are owed to know
more about who John Kerry is.
Leave the bashing out, get to the issues please.
When you do look at his issues, they are more on bashing Bush than actually
discussing the issues themselves.
Now, getting to some of the issues.
I do like some of what he is saying. Especially reducing class room sizes
in our public schools.
Who though?
A lot of our teachers are not even meating qualifications. So shouldn't we
be making sure they are actually qualified to teach?
Reducing our classroom sizes means building more schools and classrooms,
hiring more teachers. All sounds good, but in a time where we are
complaining about the deficit, how does he propose we do this with out
increasing spending?
Is raising taxes the solution? Not that paying for something like better
schools is a bad idea, I support it. I just want to know where my tax
dollars are going, thats all.
Now, he talks about the environment. Getting past the Bush bashing, what is
he actually proposing?
His talk of Foreign Policy. Again, get past the Bush bashing, just what is
he actually saying?
We need to finish the job in Iraq and make sure it is stable, continue our
hunt for Bin Laden and keeping pressure on terrorist organizations. It
does appear that Kerry is willing to finish the job in Iraq. I support him
on that.
Making College affordable for all Americans.
Great! But how? You have to read past the Bush bashing. How does he
propose to do this? This is yet another great campaign issue, but I want to
know specifics.
He says he will provide a credit for each and every year of college on the
first $4,000 paid in tuition. What is that credit? What are the
limititations? Does this include Veterans? Military? Is there a age
limit?
He says he wants to provide $1,000 for students to participate in early
intervention programs to prepare for college.
This is another great idea. I know I participated in early intervention
programs and they helped tremendously.
But where do we get the money for this? Raising taxes?
John Kerry has a plan to rebuild our future, starting with 3 million jobs in
his first 500 days. That is a HUGE order, and I hope that he isn't planning
on making that a promise. If this is something Kerry is going to say is a
promise, I intend to record this and see what happens.
How does he propose to start with 3 million jobs in his first 500 days?
Kerry says, by investing in new energy industries, restoring technology, and
stopping layoffs in education.
Sounds great, but lets get to the nuts and bolts.
Big question, How does he propose to do those things?
These are all important questions. We are supposed to decide who our next
leader is going to be, or possibly remain our leader.
At this time, I am still leaning towards Bush. I am undecided on some
issues, but strong on some with Bush.
Bush has done some things lately to cause me some alarm and question. Now,
I am watching him a little more closely, and paying close attention to the
others wanting his job. I have questions, lots of them.
So if anyone wants to discuss the issues and help explain Kerry's position
please let me know.
If you just want to bash Bush, don't even bother.
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| User: "Sneechres" |
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31 Jan 2004 01:48:16 AM |
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message news:<6OKdnYuNLdkxcIfdRVn-hQ@comcast.com>...
I went to the John Kerry website, hoping to learn more about his issues and
his ideas.
IDEAS??? Heh, liberals aren't about ideas. John Kerry's platform
site should have a disclaimer that says "subject to change with
polls."
You'll learn more about Kerry by examining his history and voting
record from people who oppose him, who will tell you the things Kerry
doesn't want you to know.
The Party Of Ideas:
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/anncoulter/ac20031120.shtml
All I really saw was information about himself or Bush bashing.
Not much on his ideas, solutions, issues.
I know from reading the papers, his voting record for the senate is
horrible. I also know about his protesting and throwing his medals over the
fence at the White House.
Um, they weren't even his medals, they were someone elses'.
Which I can understand to a point, because he felt his government let him
down.
I will not question his military service, it appears he is to be given a
salute for his contributions.
What I am questioning though is, leaving out all the Bush bashing, just who
is John Kerry? What does he stand for? What are his issues? What are his
solutions?
Answer: Nobody knows.
This is why he won't win.
Here's an article about his positions, if you can call them that.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/24/opinion/24BROO.html?ex=1390280400&en=5235886257136e90&ei=5007&partner=USERLAND
--S
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| User: "osprey" |
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31 Jan 2004 04:46:05 AM |
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(Sneechres) wrote in message news:<1414fd53.0401302348.2782eeb4@posting.google.com>...
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message news:<6OKdnYuNLdkxcIfdRVn-hQ@comcast.com>...
I went to the John Kerry website, hoping to learn more about his issues and
his ideas.
IDEAS??? Heh, liberals aren't about ideas. John Kerry's platform
site should have a disclaimer that says "subject to change with
polls."
You got that right. I have noticed that about liberals. One thing I
do admire about Bush, he doesn't let polls dictate his plans.
You'll learn more about Kerry by examining his history and voting
record from people who oppose him, who will tell you the things Kerry
doesn't want you to know.
The Party Of Ideas:
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/anncoulter/ac20031120.shtml
Thank you for that link, Ann Coulter is a very bright woman and she
usually hits the nail on the head. She drives the liberals absolutely
nuts, and I can do that as well. Watch what I am going to do for a
while. A few of the left wing extremist in here, for a while I am
going to put them on my kill file. It is going to drive them
absolutely nuts that they don't get any attention. Meanwhile in a few
weeks I will check back. They get so upset when they don't get
attention. Besides, I think I got something going on one of them
right now, that could be very bad for him. I got some research to do
before I get into it.
All I really saw was information about himself or Bush bashing.
Not much on his ideas, solutions, issues.
I know from reading the papers, his voting record for the senate is
horrible. I also know about his protesting and throwing his medals over the
fence at the White House.
Um, they weren't even his medals, they were someone elses'.
O.k., either way though I can understand his actions. Our Government
really screwed our guys over in Vietnam. I am not going to really
criticize him for that.
Which I can understand to a point, because he felt his government let him
down.
I will not question his military service, it appears he is to be given a
salute for his contributions.
What I am questioning though is, leaving out all the Bush bashing, just who
is John Kerry? What does he stand for? What are his issues? What are his
solutions?
Answer: Nobody knows.
This is why he won't win.
You could very well be right. Like I said, reading his site, it is
more Bush bashing than anything else. He says things that sound nice,
but doesn't explain how he plans on paying for his ideas. Almost all
his ideas will cost money. And if the Democrats are crying about the
deficit, how does he plan on paying for all his ideas AND reduce the
deficit by half in his first four years.
Which brings up another question.
All these liberals keep crying that our children are going to pay for
the deficit, yet liberal candidates claim they can reduce the deficit
either by half or all of it. How can they do this, if at the same
time they claim our children are going to pay for it?
They are using the same tactic...trying to get sympathy votes by
saying "our children"
Just like their old trick of getting votes by scaring either the young
or the elderly by saying Republians will kill Social Security and
Medicare. They have used this argument for over 25 years, and guess
what? We still have Social Security and we still have Medicare. So
for 25 years, their prediction of doom and gloom didn't happen.
Or like in the 90's it was Global Warming. Has anyone been in the
Northeast lately? We could use a little global warming right now.
Here's an article about his positions, if you can call them that.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/24/opinion/24BROO.html?ex=1390280400&en=5235886257136e90&ei=5007&partner=USERLAND
Thanks again, I will read it.
--S
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| User: "Me" |
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31 Jan 2004 10:45:37 AM |
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In article <8912d58d.0401310246.73490164@posting.google.com>,
(osprey) wrote:
sneechres@yahoo.com (Sneechres) wrote in message
news:<1414fd53.0401302348.2782eeb4@posting.google.com>...
"Osprey" < > wrote in message
news:<6OKdnYuNLdkxcIfdRVn-hQ@comcast.com>...
I went to the John Kerry website, hoping to learn more about his issues
and
his ideas.
IDEAS??? Heh, liberals aren't about ideas. John Kerry's platform
site should have a disclaimer that says "subject to change with
polls."
You got that right. I have noticed that about liberals. One thing I
do admire about Bush, he doesn't let polls dictate his plans.
That's a flat out lie. Just look at the medicare bill that Bush
supported. Just look at how defensive Bush has gotten about his
decision to invade Iraq. Any politician in any party who expects
to retain his or her office either cares about polls or can expect
to lose in the next election. Bush's problem is that he simply does
not know how to react to the polling data he receives.
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| User: "Osprey" |
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31 Jan 2004 02:07:28 PM |
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"Me" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-7C2892.11453731012004@news-60.giganews.com...
In article <8912d58d.0401310246.73490164@posting.google.com>,
noneedtoknow@mail.com (osprey) wrote:
sneechres@yahoo.com (Sneechres) wrote in message
news:<1414fd53.0401302348.2782eeb4@posting.google.com>...
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:<6OKdnYuNLdkxcIfdRVn-hQ@comcast.com>...
I went to the John Kerry website, hoping to learn more about his
issues
and
his ideas.
IDEAS??? Heh, liberals aren't about ideas. John Kerry's platform
site should have a disclaimer that says "subject to change with
polls."
You got that right. I have noticed that about liberals. One thing I
do admire about Bush, he doesn't let polls dictate his plans.
That's a flat out lie.
Sorry but a persons opinion and observations don't make it a lie.
You may wish it not to be true, but that doesn't make it true.
Just look at the medicare bill that Bush
supported. Just look at how defensive Bush has gotten about his
decision to invade Iraq.
He has every right to be defensive about it.
Any politician in any party who expects
to retain his or her office either cares about polls or can expect
to lose in the next election. Bush's problem is that he simply does
not know how to react to the polling data he receives.
So basically you are saying he doesn't react to polls, that is helping to
prove my point.
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| User: "Shawn \Me\ Hearn" |
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31 Jan 2004 05:35:53 PM |
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In article <8-GdnZGBguanl4Hd4p2dnA@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Me" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-7C2892.11453731012004@news-60.giganews.com...
In article <8912d58d.0401310246.73490164@posting.google.com>,
noneedtoknow@mail.com (osprey) wrote:
sneechres@yahoo.com (Sneechres) wrote in message
news:<1414fd53.0401302348.2782eeb4@posting.google.com>...
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:<6OKdnYuNLdkxcIfdRVn-hQ@comcast.com>...
I went to the John Kerry website, hoping to learn more about his
issues
and
his ideas.
IDEAS??? Heh, liberals aren't about ideas. John Kerry's platform
site should have a disclaimer that says "subject to change with
polls."
You got that right. I have noticed that about liberals. One thing I
do admire about Bush, he doesn't let polls dictate his plans.
That's a flat out lie.
Sorry but a persons opinion and observations don't make it a lie.
You may wish it not to be true, but that doesn't make it true.
You stated that Bush does not use polls to guide his actions. That's not
an opinion, it is a claim. It is a statement that is false. Any
politician who claims not to use polls is either an idiot or a liar.
So which do you think Bush is?
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| User: "Osprey" |
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31 Jan 2004 06:10:10 PM |
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"Shawn "Me" Hearn" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-C1BF48.18355331012004@news-60.giganews.com...
In article <8-GdnZGBguanl4Hd4p2dnA@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Me" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-7C2892.11453731012004@news-60.giganews.com...
In article <8912d58d.0401310246.73490164@posting.google.com>,
noneedtoknow@mail.com (osprey) wrote:
sneechres@yahoo.com (Sneechres) wrote in message
news:<1414fd53.0401302348.2782eeb4@posting.google.com>...
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:<6OKdnYuNLdkxcIfdRVn-hQ@comcast.com>...
I went to the John Kerry website, hoping to learn more about his
issues
and
his ideas.
IDEAS??? Heh, liberals aren't about ideas. John Kerry's platform
site should have a disclaimer that says "subject to change with
polls."
You got that right. I have noticed that about liberals. One thing I
do admire about Bush, he doesn't let polls dictate his plans.
That's a flat out lie.
Sorry but a persons opinion and observations don't make it a lie.
You may wish it not to be true, but that doesn't make it true.
You stated that Bush does not use polls to guide his actions.
That is correct, I do not see Bush as doing that.
That's not an opinion, it is a claim. It is a statement that is false.
Any
politician who claims not to use polls is either an idiot or a liar.
So which do you think Bush is?
You think what you wish about Bush, it isn't going to change my opinion.
Any more questions?
If you wish to join Dean and friends on bashing Bush, you go right on ahead
and sit with the them. I am sure that Barnes, Keegan, Fischer, Adam...have a
seat for you. One of them might be giving up a chair soon though because he
may be leaving for a while. Regardless, they are the Bush bashers and not
interested in the issues or solutions
I intend on watching the candidates, listening to their issues, trying to
figure out what their solutions are.
At this point, I am not interested in bashing. We have elections coming up.
I am interested in issues and solutions.
I don't see any of the candidates really offering any solutions. They are
saying things people want to hear, but I want to ask question as to how they
propose to do the things they are saying they want to do.
Kerry - 3 million jobs in his first 500 days
There are a lot of things he says, that is going to cost money. And since
Democrats keep bashing Bush on the deficit, why do they want to propose
programs that are going to cost millions of tax payers dollars? How does he
propose to do this, create jobs, reduce the deficit, without raising taxes
on middle class?
I have questions on his ideas on the war on terrorism.
All I hear in almost every one of his issues, is Bush bashing. The only two
that really are not bashing Bush, and I like them, are Edwards and Lieberman
Although, I don't see Lieberman has having a chance.
Kerry is a veteran, so for that I respect him.
So please understand, the Bush bashing is being tossed out now, as I am sure
most Americans will get tired of it as well. The Bush bashing is going to
actually hurt the Democrats as it turns more Americans off.
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| User: "David Barnes" |
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31 Jan 2004 10:16:23 PM |
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In article <NaWdnaTW4J6s3oHd4p2dnA@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Kerry is a veteran, so for that I respect him.
Then explain what you see in Bush. He is a coward who deserted during
Viet Nam.
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| User: "David Barnes" |
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31 Jan 2004 10:16:22 PM |
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In article <srhi-C1BF48.18355331012004@news-60.giganews.com>, Shawn
\"Me\" Hearn <srhi@comcast.net> wrote:
In article <8-GdnZGBguanl4Hd4p2dnA@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Me" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-7C2892.11453731012004@news-60.giganews.com...
In article <8912d58d.0401310246.73490164@posting.google.com>,
noneedtoknow@mail.com (osprey) wrote:
sneechres@yahoo.com (Sneechres) wrote in message
news:<1414fd53.0401302348.2782eeb4@posting.google.com>...
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:<6OKdnYuNLdkxcIfdRVn-hQ@comcast.com>...
I went to the John Kerry website, hoping to learn more about his
issues
and
his ideas.
IDEAS??? Heh, liberals aren't about ideas. John Kerry's platform
site should have a disclaimer that says "subject to change with
polls."
You got that right. I have noticed that about liberals. One thing I
do admire about Bush, he doesn't let polls dictate his plans.
That's a flat out lie.
Sorry but a persons opinion and observations don't make it a lie.
You may wish it not to be true, but that doesn't make it true.
You stated that Bush does not use polls to guide his actions. That's not
an opinion, it is a claim. It is a statement that is false. Any
politician who claims not to use polls is either an idiot or a liar.
So which do you think Bush is?
You are wasting your time with him. Especially the logical parts.
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| User: "David Barnes" |
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31 Jan 2004 03:59:26 PM |
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In article <8-GdnZGBguanl4Hd4p2dnA@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Me" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-7C2892.11453731012004@news-60.giganews.com...
In article <8912d58d.0401310246.73490164@posting.google.com>,
noneedtoknow@mail.com (osprey) wrote:
sneechres@yahoo.com (Sneechres) wrote in message
news:<1414fd53.0401302348.2782eeb4@posting.google.com>...
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:<6OKdnYuNLdkxcIfdRVn-hQ@comcast.com>...
I went to the John Kerry website, hoping to learn more about his
issues
and
his ideas.
IDEAS??? Heh, liberals aren't about ideas. John Kerry's platform
site should have a disclaimer that says "subject to change with
polls."
You got that right. I have noticed that about liberals. One thing I
do admire about Bush, he doesn't let polls dictate his plans.
That's a flat out lie.
Sorry but a persons opinion and observations don't make it a lie.
You may wish it not to be true, but that doesn't make it true.
ROFL! That is all you offer. Wishful thinking.
Just look at the medicare bill that Bush
supported. Just look at how defensive Bush has gotten about his
decision to invade Iraq.
He has every right to be defensive about it.
Any politician in any party who expects
to retain his or her office either cares about polls or can expect
to lose in the next election. Bush's problem is that he simply does
not know how to react to the polling data he receives.
So basically you are saying he doesn't react to polls, that is helping to
prove my point.
That isn't what he said, dip *****. No wonder you are so mis-informed.
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| User: "David Barnes" |
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31 Jan 2004 11:14:26 AM |
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In article <8912d58d.0401310246.73490164@posting.google.com>, osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
sneechres@yahoo.com (Sneechres) wrote in message
news:<1414fd53.0401302348.2782eeb4@posting.google.com>...
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:<6OKdnYuNLdkxcIfdRVn-hQ@comcast.com>...
I went to the John Kerry website, hoping to learn more about his issues
and
his ideas.
IDEAS??? Heh, liberals aren't about ideas. John Kerry's platform
site should have a disclaimer that says "subject to change with
polls."
You got that right. I have noticed that about liberals. One thing I
do admire about Bush, he doesn't let polls dictate his plans
I guess that explains how he is now in favor of allowing people across
the border.
You'll learn more about Kerry by examining his history and voting
record from people who oppose him, who will tell you the things Kerry
doesn't want you to know.
The Party Of Ideas:
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/anncoulter/ac20031120.shtml
Thank you for that link, Ann Coulter is a very bright woman
She, like you, is a liar. People have proven what she says are lies
almost as often as we have proven what you say is a lie.
and she
usually hits the nail on the head.
She is nuts. As Al Franken pointed out, he has met her ONCE for a
couple of minutes. But that didn't stop Ann Coulter from referring to
Franken as "a good friend" in one of her books.
She drives the liberals absolutely
nuts,
I love her because she is a vicous ***** and demonstrates the character
of the Republican party.
and I can do that as well.
ROFL!!!! You are a putz.
Watch what I am going to do for a
while. A few of the left wing extremist in here, for a while I am
going to put them on my kill file. It is going to drive them
absolutely nuts that they don't get any attention. Meanwhile in a few
weeks I will check back. They get so upset when they don't get
attention. Besides, I think I got something going on one of them
right now, that could be very bad for him. I got some research to do
before I get into it.
In other words you are giving up and making up a bunch of lies to try
to save face. I don't blame you for running off. You are the village
idiot. EVERYONE believes that.
All I really saw was information about himself or Bush bashing.
Not much on his ideas, solutions, issues.
I know from reading the papers, his voting record for the senate is
horrible. I also know about his protesting and throwing his medals over
the
fence at the White House.
Um, they weren't even his medals, they were someone elses'.
O.k., either way though I can understand his actions. Our Government
really screwed our guys over in Vietnam. I am not going to really
criticize him for that.
(The Medals Were His.)
So in a way, when Bush avoided going to Viet Nam and had others go in
his place he was doing a good thing, right?
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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31 Jan 2004 05:44:28 AM |
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osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
sneechres@yahoo.com (Sneechres) wrote in message news:<1414fd53.0401302348.2782eeb4@posting.google.com>...
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message news:<6OKdnYuNLdkxcIfdRVn-hQ@comcast.com>...
I went to the John Kerry website, hoping to learn more about his issues and
his ideas.
IDEAS??? Heh, liberals aren't about ideas. John Kerry's platform
site should have a disclaimer that says "subject to change with
polls."
You got that right. I have noticed that about liberals. One thing I
do admire about Bush, he doesn't let polls dictate his plans.
Of course he does. He does polls all the time. Why do you think he's
pretending to turn into a liberal just 10 months before the election?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Me" |
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31 Jan 2004 10:43:43 AM |
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In article <1414fd53.0401302348.2782eeb4@posting.google.com>,
(Sneechres) wrote:
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:<6OKdnYuNLdkxcIfdRVn-hQ@comcast.com>...
I went to the John Kerry website, hoping to learn more about his issues and
his ideas.
IDEAS??? Heh, liberals aren't about ideas. John Kerry's platform
site should have a disclaimer that says "subject to change with
polls."
You'll learn more about Kerry by examining his history and voting
record from people who oppose him, who will tell you the things Kerry
doesn't want you to know.
The same can be true of Bush. I am not a Kerry supporter, but compared
to Bush, a dog catcher can do a better job as president.
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| User: "David Barnes" |
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31 Jan 2004 11:14:26 AM |
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In article <1414fd53.0401302348.2782eeb4@posting.google.com>, Sneechres
<sneechres@yahoo.com> wrote:
Not much on his ideas, solutions, issues.
I know from reading the papers, his voting record for the senate is
horrible. I also know about his protesting and throwing his medals over the
fence at the White House.
Um, they weren't even his medals, they were someone elses'.
Um... You don't know what you are talking about. The medals were his.
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| User: "Sneechres" |
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31 Jan 2004 07:11:29 PM |
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David Barnes <dbarnes111@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<310120040914263205%dbarnes111@yahoo.com>...
In article <1414fd53.0401302348.2782eeb4@posting.google.com>, Sneechres
<sneechres@yahoo.com> wrote:
Not much on his ideas, solutions, issues.
I know from reading the papers, his voting record for the senate is
horrible. I also know about his protesting and throwing his medals over the
fence at the White House.
Um, they weren't even his medals, they were someone elses'.
Um... You don't know what you are talking about. The medals were his.
Not according to Kerry himself.
http://slate.msn.com/id/2087554/
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| User: "David Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: What does Kerry stand for? |
01 Feb 2004 11:12:45 AM |
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In article <1414fd53.0401311711.18e1deae@posting.google.com>, Sneechres
<sneechres@yahoo.com> wrote:
David Barnes <dbarnes111@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<310120040914263205%dbarnes111@yahoo.com>...
In article <1414fd53.0401302348.2782eeb4@posting.google.com>, Sneechres
<sneechres@yahoo.com> wrote:
Not much on his ideas, solutions, issues.
I know from reading the papers, his voting record for the senate is
horrible. I also know about his protesting and throwing his medals
over the
fence at the White House.
Um, they weren't even his medals, they were someone elses'.
Um... You don't know what you are talking about. The medals were his.
Not according to Kerry himself.
http://slate.msn.com/id/2087554/
Right - a reporter got it wrong. Kerry has said repeatedly that he
threw his ribbons but kept the actual medals.
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| User: "Sneechres" |
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| Title: Re: What does Kerry stand for? |
05 Feb 2004 12:03:39 AM |
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David Barnes <dbarnes111@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<010220040912458607%dbarnes111@yahoo.com>...
In article <1414fd53.0401311711.18e1deae@posting.google.com>, Sneechres
<sneechres@yahoo.com> wrote:
David Barnes <dbarnes111@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<310120040914263205%dbarnes111@yahoo.com>...
In article <1414fd53.0401302348.2782eeb4@posting.google.com>, Sneechres
<sneechres@yahoo.com> wrote:
Not much on his ideas, solutions, issues.
I know from reading the papers, his voting record for the senate is
horrible. I also know about his protesting and throwing his medals
over the
fence at the White House.
Um, they weren't even his medals, they were someone elses'.
Um... You don't know what you are talking about. The medals were his.
Not according to Kerry himself.
http://slate.msn.com/id/2087554/
Right - a reporter got it wrong. Kerry has said repeatedly that he
threw his ribbons but kept the actual medals.
He threw *medals* from _other veterans_. Read the referenced
material.
From the link:
"But Kerry has long maintained he threw his own ribbons but someone
else's medals. In an interview, he said that he had previously met two
veterans … who had asked Kerry to return their medals to the military.
Kerry said he stuffed them into his jacket. He said that when he
prepared to throw his ribbons over the fence, he reached into his
jacket and pulled out the medals from those two veterans. He said his
own medals remained in safekeeping" (Boston Globe, June 17, 2003).
--S
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| User: "Snubis" |
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| Title: Re: What does Kerry stand for? |
06 Feb 2004 08:15:08 AM |
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On Thu 05 Feb 2004 01:03:39a, (Sneechres) wrote in
news:1414fd53.0402042203.6fde4ce7@posting.google.com:
David Barnes <dbarnes111@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<010220040912458607%dbarnes111@yahoo.com>...
In article <1414fd53.0401311711.18e1deae@posting.google.com>, Sneechres
< > wrote:
David Barnes <dbarnes111@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<310120040914263205%dbarnes111@yahoo.com>...
In article <1414fd53.0401302348.2782eeb4@posting.google.com>,
Sneechres < > wrote:
Not much on his ideas, solutions, issues.
I know from reading the papers, his voting record for the
senate is horrible. I also know about his protesting and
throwing his medals over the
fence at the White House.
Um, they weren't even his medals, they were someone elses'.
Um... You don't know what you are talking about. The medals were
his.
Not according to Kerry himself.
http://slate.msn.com/id/2087554/
Right - a reporter got it wrong. Kerry has said repeatedly that he
threw his ribbons but kept the actual medals.
He threw *medals* from _other veterans_. Read the referenced
material.
From the link:
"But Kerry has long maintained he threw his own ribbons but someone
else's medals. In an interview, he said that he had previously met two
veterans … who had asked Kerry to return their medals to the military.
Kerry said he stuffed them into his jacket. He said that when he
prepared to throw his ribbons over the fence, he reached into his
jacket and pulled out the medals from those two veterans. He said his
own medals remained in safekeeping" (Boston Globe, June 17, 2003).
So what point was he trying to make if he kept his own medals?
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| User: "Sneechres" |
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| Title: Re: What does Kerry stand for? |
06 Feb 2004 10:04:46 PM |
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Snubis <snubis@wp.pl> wrote in message news:<e960dfc883f197043f8c239fd2251354@news.teranews.com>...
On Thu 05 Feb 2004 01:03:39a, (Sneechres) wrote in
news:1414fd53.0402042203.6fde4ce7@posting.google.com:
David Barnes <dbarnes111@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<010220040912458607%dbarnes111@yahoo.com>...
In article <1414fd53.0401311711.18e1deae@posting.google.com>, Sneechres
< > wrote:
David Barnes <dbarnes111@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<310120040914263205%dbarnes111@yahoo.com>...
In article <1414fd53.0401302348.2782eeb4@posting.google.com>,
Sneechres < > wrote:
Not much on his ideas, solutions, issues.
I know from reading the papers, his voting record for the
senate is horrible. I also know about his protesting and
throwing his medals over the
fence at the White House.
Um, they weren't even his medals, they were someone elses'.
Um... You don't know what you are talking about. The medals were
his.
Not according to Kerry himself.
http://slate.msn.com/id/2087554/
Right - a reporter got it wrong. Kerry has said repeatedly that he
threw his ribbons but kept the actual medals.
He threw *medals* from _other veterans_. Read the referenced
material.
From the link:
"But Kerry has long maintained he threw his own ribbons but someone
else's medals. In an interview, he said that he had previously met two
veterans ? who had asked Kerry to return their medals to the military.
Kerry said he stuffed them into his jacket. He said that when he
prepared to throw his ribbons over the fence, he reached into his
jacket and pulled out the medals from those two veterans. He said his
own medals remained in safekeeping" (Boston Globe, June 17, 2003).
So what point was he trying to make if he kept his own medals?
Who frigging knows.
Kerry isn't a man to formulate complex, workable ideas and stick to
them. His record in the Senate is less than impressive when it comes
to implementing anything.
--S
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| User: "Me" |
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31 Jan 2004 10:40:44 AM |
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In article <6OKdnYuNLdkxcIfdRVn-hQ@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
I went to the John Kerry website, hoping to learn more about his issues and
his ideas. All I really saw was information about himself or Bush bashing.
Not much on his ideas, solutions, issues.
Just curious, but why does it matter to you what a Democratic nomination
contender has to say? Aren't you a Republican? If Kerry actually gets
the nomination to run against Bush, then I can see why what Kerry has
to say would be relevant to you, but for now, I just don't see the point.
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: What does Kerry stand for? |
31 Jan 2004 02:06:00 PM |
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"Me" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-0CCCB0.11404431012004@news-60.giganews.com...
In article <6OKdnYuNLdkxcIfdRVn-hQ@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
I went to the John Kerry website, hoping to learn more about his issues
and
his ideas. All I really saw was information about himself or Bush
bashing.
Not much on his ideas, solutions, issues.
Just curious, but why does it matter to you what a Democratic nomination
contender has to say? Aren't you a Republican?
So?
Are you saying that a Republican can't weigh the opinions of all candidates?
That is pretty narrow minded on your part.
If Kerry actually gets
the nomination to run against Bush, then I can see why what Kerry has
to say would be relevant to you, but for now, I just don't see the point.
I think you need to re-evaluate what you are saying. It sounds very narrow
minded.
I don't always follow the republican party. Yes, I support the republian
party, but that doesn't mean that I am going to blindly vote for a
republican just because he or she is in my party.
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| User: "Shawn \Me\ Hearn" |
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| Title: Re: What does Kerry stand for? |
31 Jan 2004 05:34:10 PM |
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In article <H-CdnaPNXcB-lIHdRVn-uQ@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Me" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-0CCCB0.11404431012004@news-60.giganews.com...
In article <6OKdnYuNLdkxcIfdRVn-hQ@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
I went to the John Kerry website, hoping to learn more about his issues
and
his ideas. All I really saw was information about himself or Bush
bashing.
Not much on his ideas, solutions, issues.
Just curious, but why does it matter to you what a Democratic nomination
contender has to say? Aren't you a Republican?
So?
Are you saying that a Republican can't weigh the opinions of all candidates?
That is pretty narrow minded on your part.
No. You're certainly free to weigh in on your opinions. That wasn't my
question. My question is, why do you care what Kerry thinks at this
stage of the game?
If Kerry actually gets
the nomination to run against Bush, then I can see why what Kerry has
to say would be relevant to you, but for now, I just don't see the point.
I think you need to re-evaluate what you are saying. It sounds very narrow
minded.
I don't always follow the republican party. Yes, I support the republian
party, but that doesn't mean that I am going to blindly vote for a
republican just because he or she is in my party.
Sure! And pigs fly.
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| User: "Osprey" |
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| Title: Re: What does Kerry stand for? |
31 Jan 2004 06:02:36 PM |
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"Shawn "Me" Hearn" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-A8F398.18341031012004@news-60.giganews.com...
In article <H-CdnaPNXcB-lIHdRVn-uQ@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Me" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-0CCCB0.11404431012004@news-60.giganews.com...
In article <6OKdnYuNLdkxcIfdRVn-hQ@comcast.com>,
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
I went to the John Kerry website, hoping to learn more about his
issues
and
his ideas. All I really saw was information about himself or Bush
bashing.
Not much on his ideas, solutions, issues.
Just curious, but why does it matter to you what a Democratic
nomination
contender has to say? Aren't you a Republican?
So?
Are you saying that a Republican can't weigh the opinions of all
candidates?
That is pretty narrow minded on your part.
No. You're certainly free to weigh in on your opinions. That wasn't my
question. My question is, why do you care what Kerry thinks at this
stage of the game?
Because he appears to be the one that democrats may nominate, so I am paying
closer attention to him now.
If Kerry actually gets
the nomination to run against Bush, then I can see why what Kerry has
to say would be relevant to you, but for now, I just don't see the
point.
I think you need to re-evaluate what you are saying. It sounds very
narrow
minded.
I don't always follow the republican party. Yes, I support the
republian
party, but that doesn't mean that I am going to blindly vote for a
republican just because he or she is in my party.
Sure! And pigs fly.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: What does Kerry stand for? |
31 Jan 2004 07:33:37 PM |
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Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
"Me" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
I went to the John Kerry website, hoping to learn more about his issues
and
his ideas. All I really saw was information about himself or Bush
bashing.
Not much on his ideas, solutions, issues.
Just curious, but why does it matter to you what a Democratic nomination
contender has to say? Aren't you a Republican?
So?
Are you saying that a Republican can't weigh the opinions of all candidates?
That is pretty narrow minded on your part.
You say that anyone who criticizes Bush's failed policies is just a
Bush hater.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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30 Jan 2004 11:52:22 PM |
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Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
I went to the John Kerry website, hoping to learn more about his issues and
his ideas. All I really saw was information about himself or Bush bashing.
Not much on his ideas, solutions, issues.
You went looking for something to attack him about.
I know from reading the papers, his voting record for the senate is
horrible. I also know about his protesting and throwing his medals over the
Q.E.D.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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