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Science > Abortion |
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"EggNog" |
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13 Jan 2005 06:40:29 AM |
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What does the Bible say about abortion? |
Question: "What does the Bible say about abortion?"
Answer: There was no practice of abortion in Bible times. Therefore, the
Bible never specifically addresses the issue. However, there are numerous
teachings in Scripture that make it abundantly clear what God's view of
abortion is. Jeremiah 1:5 tells us that God knows us before He knits us in
the womb. Psalm 139:13-16 speaks of God's active role in our creation and
formation in the womb. Exodus 21:22-25 prescribes the same penalty of
someone who causes the death of a baby in the womb as the penalty for
someone who commits murder. This clearly indicates that God considers a
baby in the womb as just as much of a human being as a full-grown adult.
For the Christian, abortion is not a matter of a woman's right to choose.
It is a matter of the life or death of a human being made in God's image
(Genesis 1:26-27; 9:6).
The first argument that always arises against the Christian stance on
abortion is, "What about cases of rape and/or incest?" As horrible as it
would be to become pregnant as a result of rape and/or incest, does that
make the murder of a baby the answer? Two wrongs do not make a right. The
child who is a result of rape/incest could be given up for adoption to a
loving family unable to have children on their own - or the child could be
raised by its mother. Again, the baby should not be punished for the evil
acts of its father.
The second argument that usually arises against the Christian stance on
abortion is, "What about when the life of the mother is at risk?" Honestly,
this is the most difficult question to answer on the issue of abortion.
First, let's remember that this situation is the reason behind less than
one-tenth of one percent of the abortions done in the world today. Second,
let's remember that God is a God of miracles. He can preserve the life of a
mother and a child despite all the medical odds being against it.
Ultimately, though, this question can only be decided between a husband,
wife, and God. Any couple facing this extremely difficult situation should
pray to the Lord for wisdom (James 1:5) as to what He would have them to do.
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| User: "loose cannon is a lying, stalking, forging scumbag" |
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| Title: Re:loose cannon is a lying, stalking, forging scumbag |
18 Jan 2005 11:49:30 AM |
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Loose Cannon wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1106062005.597056.6730@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Loose Cannon wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1106009342.228708.60440@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
is a lying, forging scumbag
And a coward to boot:
Refute this or fook off, IBen:
http://tinyurl.com/3semm
Betcha can't. Betcha won't.
LC~ Run, IBen, run!
"I can chew my way out of a straight jacket if I need to. Done it
before."~
Netkook extraordinaire "IBen/JYoung", pleading mea culpa.
loose cannon is a lowlife, forging, lying, stalking, scumbag
Speaking of "stalkers", IBen:
"You fucked with the wrong guy, EVERY post you make will be attacked
with this headline. I really don't give 2 shits if I ever post again
under my real name."
From: "From now on, every post loose cannon makes will be followed
with this
title" <superasswipe@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.music.moody-blues
Subject: Re: Loose Cannon, the son of a *****, is a lying, forging
piece of
*****
Date: 16 Jan 2005 17:30:22 -0800
Message-ID: <1105925422.282859.242950@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>
ROTFLMAO!
loose cannon is a lying, stalking, forging scumbag
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| User: "Loose Cannon" |
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| Title: Re:Run, IBen, run! |
18 Jan 2005 12:31:38 PM |
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"IBenGetiner/JonYoung", et al
<superasswipe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1106070570.115495.80670@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Looks like I've replaced Michael Jackson as "Jon's" object of fixation.
Hey, I'll play your pathetic game as long as you'd like, IBen.
loose cannon is a lowlife, forging,
"Forging"? Like this?(Note matching NNTP's):
From: "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: Re: loose cannon is a lowlife, forging, lying, stalking, scumbag
Date: 18 Jan 2005 07:23:40 -0800
Message-ID: <1106061820.434790.117590@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 152.163.101.10
From: "Loose Cannon" <Findingis@aol.com>
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: A new life has begun
Date: 15 Jan 2005 02:41:56 -0800
Message-ID: <1105785716.929235.140300@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 152.163.101.10
Or this (Yet more matching NNTP's from IBen/Jon):
From: "loose cannon is a lying, stalking, forging scumbag"
<superasswipe@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.abortion,alt.bible,alt.christnet,alt.religion.christian
Subject: Re: loose cannon is a lying, stalking, forging scumbag
Date: 18 Jan 2005 09:50:30 -0800
Message-ID: <1106070630.263270.209480@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 152.163.101.7
From: "two can play this game" <superasswipe@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.politics.homosexuality, alt.bible, alt.abortion
Subject: Re: Year marked by setbacks for the forger Losse Cannon
Date: 5 Jan 2005 06:50:45 -0800
NNTP-Posting-Host: 152.163.101.7
lying,
Please point out my lies. Be specific.
stalking,
Tell me again *who's* stalking who? <BFG>
scumbag
Well, you're certainly welcome to a "Young opinion". And we know how highly
they're regarded, don't we?
Thanks for playing. I've noticed your unable to substantiate even *one* of
your claims.
Now, take your meds, will you? Oh, and get back to me on this, will you?:
http://tinyurl.com/3semm
Grow up, IBen. You're far too old for such childish nonsense:
"Haven't been unemployed ONE WEEK in over 30 years, but I
only got a high school diploma."~ IBen/JYoung, middle-aged stalking loser,
in
LC~ Wonders what it is about AOL?
"Ultimately, the only power to which man should aspire is that which he
exercises over himself."~Elie Wiesel
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| User: "loose cannon is a lying, stalking, forging scumbag" |
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| Title: Re:222222222222222222222222 |
18 Jan 2005 11:36:51 PM |
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Loose Cannon wrote:
"IBenGetiner/JonYoung", et al
<superasswipe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1106070570.115495.80670@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Looks like I've replaced Michael Jackson as "Jon's" object of
fixation.
Hey, I'll play your pathetic game as long as you'd like, IBen.
loose cannon is a lowlife, forging,
"Forging"? Like this?(Note matching NNTP's):
From: "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: Re: loose cannon is a lowlife, forging, lying, stalking,
scumbag
Date: 18 Jan 2005 07:23:40 -0800
Message-ID: <1106061820.434790.117590@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 152.163.101.10
From: "Loose Cannon" <Findingis@aol.com>
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: A new life has begun
Date: 15 Jan 2005 02:41:56 -0800
Message-ID: <1105785716.929235.140300@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 152.163.101.10
Or this (Yet more matching NNTP's from IBen/Jon):
From: "loose cannon is a lying, stalking, forging scumbag"
<superasswipe@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups:
alt.abortion,alt.bible,alt.christnet,alt.religion.christian
Subject: Re: loose cannon is a lying, stalking, forging scumbag
Date: 18 Jan 2005 09:50:30 -0800
Message-ID: <1106070630.263270.209480@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 152.163.101.7
From: "two can play this game" <superasswipe@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.politics.homosexuality, alt.bible, alt.abortion
Subject: Re: Year marked by setbacks for the forger Losse Cannon
Date: 5 Jan 2005 06:50:45 -0800
NNTP-Posting-Host: 152.163.101.7
lying,
Please point out my lies. Be specific.
stalking,
Tell me again *who's* stalking who? <BFG>
scumbag
Well, you're certainly welcome to a "Young opinion". And we know how
highly
they're regarded, don't we?
Thanks for playing. I've noticed your unable to substantiate even
*one* of
your claims.
Now, take your meds, will you? Oh, and get back to me on this, will
you?:
http://tinyurl.com/3semm
Grow up, IBen. You're far too old for such childish nonsense:
"Haven't been unemployed ONE WEEK in over 30 years, but I
only got a high school diploma."~ IBen/JYoung, middle-aged stalking
loser,
in
LC~ Wonders what it is about AOL?
"Ultimately, the only power to which man should aspire is that which
he
exercises over himself."~Elie Wiesel
0000000000000000000000000000000000000
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: What does the Bible say about abortion? |
14 Jan 2005 11:05:13 AM |
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EggNog <Egg@super.net> wrote:
Bible never specifically addresses the issue. However, there are numerous
teachings in Scripture that make it abundantly clear what God's view of
abortion is. Jeremiah 1:5 tells us that God knows us before He knits us in
the womb.
And since God knows us before conception then killing sperm must be
murder.
Psalm 139:13-16 speaks of God's active role in our creation and
formation in the womb.
Not "in the womb".
My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in secret,
and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth.
"in the lowest parts of the earth"
Exodus 21:22-25 prescribes the same penalty of
someone who causes the death of a baby in the womb as the penalty for
someone who commits murder.
That's a lie. The penalty for causing a miscarriage is a fine.
This clearly indicates that God considers a
baby in the womb as just as much of a human being as a full-grown adult.
It clearly indiciates that you're willing to lie about the Bible in
order to promote your immoral agenda.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: What does the Bible say about abortion? |
14 Jan 2005 11:02:11 AM |
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EggNog <Egg@super.net> wrote:
Question: "What does the Bible say about abortion?"
Answer: There was no practice of abortion in Bible times.
Of course there was. The Bible even describes a forced abortion in
Numbers 5.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "--sexkitten--" |
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| Title: Re: What does the Bible say about abortion? |
13 Jan 2005 06:51:06 AM |
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EggNog wrote:
Question: "What does the Bible say about abortion?"
.... a question for which you apparently have not found an answer.
Answer: There was no practice of abortion in Bible times.
There was.
Therefore, the
Bible never specifically addresses the issue. However, there are numerous
teachings in Scripture that make it abundantly clear what God's view of
abortion is. Jeremiah 1:5 tells us that God knows us before He knits us in
the womb.
Which means he knows that the woman is going to have an abortion,
doesn't he?
Psalm 139:13-16 speaks of God's active role in our creation and
formation in the womb. Exodus 21:22-25 prescribes the same penalty of
someone who causes the death of a baby in the womb as the penalty for
someone who commits murder.
No, it does not, only for the death of the woman.
This clearly indicates that God considers a
baby in the womb as just as much of a human being as a full-grown adult.
For the Christian, abortion is not a matter of a woman's right to choose.
It is a matter of the life or death of a human being made in God's image
(Genesis 1:26-27; 9:6).
However, not everyone is a Christian, not every Christian believes the
same as you, and it is unconstitutional to base a law on your religious
beliefs.
The first argument that always arises against the Christian stance on
abortion is, "What about cases of rape and/or incest?" As horrible as it
would be to become pregnant as a result of rape and/or incest, does that
make the murder of a baby the answer? Two wrongs do not make a right.
So the wrong of forcing a woman to bear a child from rape or incest is
good or bad?
The
child who is a result of rape/incest could be given up for adoption to a
loving family unable to have children on their own - or the child could be
raised by its mother. Again, the baby should not be punished for the evil
acts of its father.
The second argument that usually arises against the Christian stance on
abortion is, "What about when the life of the mother is at risk?" Honestly,
this is the most difficult question to answer on the issue of abortion.
First, let's remember that this situation is the reason behind less than
one-tenth of one percent of the abortions done in the world today. Second,
let's remember that God is a God of miracles. He can preserve the life of a
mother and a child despite all the medical odds being against it.
Ultimately, though, this question can only be decided between a husband,
wife, and God. Any couple facing this extremely difficult situation should
pray to the Lord for wisdom (James 1:5) as to what He would have them to do.
--
--sexkitten--
In Loving Memory of Jim Addison
9/18/71 - 12/30/04
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| User: "The Kinsman" |
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| Title: Re: What does the Bible say about abortion? |
13 Jan 2005 08:01:00 AM |
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--sexkitten-- wrote:
EggNog wrote:
Question: "What does the Bible say about abortion?"
This clearly indicates that God considers a
baby in the womb as just as much of a human being as a full->>grown
adult.
For the Christian, abortion is not a matter of a woman's >>right to
choose.
It is a matter of the life or death of a human being made >>in
God's image
(Genesis 1:26-27; 9:6).
However, not everyone is a Christian, not every Christian >believes
the
same as you, and it is unconstitutional to base a law on your
religious
beliefs.
It isn't unconstitutional to have the freedom to sway the vote; that's
why we vote, and voting could lead to possible religious-oriented laws.
Kinsman
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| User: "--sexkitten--" |
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| Title: Re: What does the Bible say about abortion? |
13 Jan 2005 09:46:09 AM |
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The Kinsman wrote:
--sexkitten-- wrote:
EggNog wrote:
Question: "What does the Bible say about abortion?"
This clearly indicates that God considers a
baby in the womb as just as much of a human being as a full->>grown
adult.
For the Christian, abortion is not a matter of a woman's >>right to
choose.
It is a matter of the life or death of a human being made >>in
God's image
(Genesis 1:26-27; 9:6).
However, not everyone is a Christian, not every Christian >believes
the
same as you, and it is unconstitutional to base a law on your
religious
beliefs.
It isn't unconstitutional to have the freedom to sway the vote; that's
why we vote, and voting could lead to possible religious-oriented laws.
Kinsman
Which will promptly be challenged, frozen and then ruled
unconstitutional. That's why we have a Supreme Court.
--
--sexkitten--
In Loving Memory of Jim Addison
9/18/71 - 12/30/04
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| User: "The Kinsman" |
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| Title: Re: What does the Bible say about abortion? |
13 Jan 2005 12:23:30 PM |
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--sexkitten-- wrote:
The Kinsman wrote:
--sexkitten-- wrote:
It isn't unconstitutional to have the freedom to sway the vote;
that's
why we vote, and voting could lead to possible religious-oriented
laws.
Kinsman
Which will promptly be challenged, frozen and then ruled
unconstitutional.
Or *not*.
That's why we have a Supreme Court.
Indeed.
Kinsman
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