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"meliva" |
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25 Feb 2004 01:26:52 AM |
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What It Means to Be 'Pro Choice'. 'Lucifers Choice' |
I just want you to know What It Means to Be 'Pro Choice'.
You abortion-rights sinners systematically preach that women's health is
your primary concern, but your blind allegiance to abortion, at all costs,
is terribly disconcerting.
That there my friends is the abortion-rights atrocity - you believe your
cause is honorable - and should not be hindered in any way. But let me warn
you this, God will not forgive you. Your cause is disgraceful and deceitful.
DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND HOW TERRIBLE PARTIAL ABORTION IS. WHY DO YOU OPPOSE
EFFORTS TO DENY A CHILDS ITS LIFE OR HELP GIVE A CHILDLESS COUPLE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO WELCOME A PRECIOUS CHILD INTO THEIR HOMES!!
Your allegiance for continued slaughter of unborn children, all under the
false guise of "choice," "women's health" and "freedom" is absolutely
despicable.
But the tide is now turning.
Did you know that the U.S. Senate overwhelmingly passed a bill last week
that would ban partial-birth abortions. :) Oh yes. The House is expected to
pass similar legislation this spring. And President Bush has promised to
sign a ban into LAW.
Condemned the vote all you want. Abortions will be gone. Gay marriages will
be gone. Christianity is returning to our homeland.
Glory be to god. Amen.
b.b
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| Title: Re: What It Means to Be 'Pro Choice'. 'Lucifers Choice' |
25 Feb 2004 07:07:02 PM |
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"Damn Dan" <rusttree@-KNOWSPAHM-.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<c_Z_b.50305$um1.35917@twister.nyroc.rr.com>...
"meliva" <mel432@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"--sexkitten--" <ladyhawk_twonospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Acid King wrote:
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Number one, don't assume someone has not read the bible. That's a bad
assumption to make here, as many people that visit these groups (why is this
crossposting to alt.games.video.nintendo.gamecube by the way?) have read it.
Why is it crossposting to we at the Gamecube froup?
Simple.
Someone's trolling.
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| User: "oldwetdog old*wet*dog@netscapeD0Tnet" |
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| Title: Re: What It Means to Be 'Pro Choice'. 'Lucifers Choice' |
25 Feb 2004 07:50:43 PM |
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Please note that there is no one in
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| User: "Warnock" |
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| Title: Re: What It Means to Be 'Pro Choice'. 'Lucifers Choice' |
03 Mar 2004 07:25:18 AM |
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"oldwetdog" <old*wet*dog@netscapeD0Tnet> wrote in message
news:103qk81205vid12@corp.supernews.com...
Please note that there is no one in
"alt.christnet.christianlife"
who is interested in this discussion.
****** Well now, we are discussing atheists, abortion and fags - three
things that I think should be of interest to posters in
alt.christnet.christianlife .It is the lifestyle of these three groups that
Christians need to look into!
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**** The fact that the greatest scientists, to their utter dismay, can't
breath life into a dead body or create a perfect animal and breath life into
it - is PROOF of a higher intelligence! ****
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman,
both of them have committed an abomination: they shall
surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
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| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
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| Title: Re: What It Means to Be 'Pro Choice'. 'Lucifers Choice' |
03 Mar 2004 03:46:22 PM |
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"Warnock" <warnnock@pop.co.za> writes:
"oldwetdog" <old*wet*dog@netscapeD0Tnet> wrote in message
news:103qk81205vid12@corp.supernews.com...
Please note that there is no one in
"alt.christnet.christianlife"
who is interested in this discussion.
****** Well now, we are discussing atheists, abortion and fags - three
things that I think should be of interest to posters in
alt.christnet.christianlife .It is the lifestyle of these three groups that
Christians need to look into!
Why? I don't recall any commandments that REAL Christians be professional
busybodies like you.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2003-04 Houston Aeros)
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| User: "John Norris" |
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| Title: Re: What It Means to Be 'Pro Choice'. 'Lucifers Choice' |
04 Mar 2004 10:45:21 AM |
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"Warnock" <warnnock@pop.co.za> wrote in message news:<c25dbe$bfg$4@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net>...
"oldwetdog" <old*wet*dog@netscapeD0Tnet> wrote in message
news:103qk81205vid12@corp.supernews.com...
Please note that there is no one in
"alt.christnet.christianlife"
who is interested in this discussion.
****** Well now, we are discussing atheists, abortion and fags - three
things that I think should be of interest to posters in
alt.christnet.christianlife .It is the lifestyle of these three groups that
Christians need to look into!
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**** The fact that the greatest scientists, to their utter dismay, can't
breath life into a dead body or create a perfect animal and breath life into
it - is PROOF of a higher intelligence! ****
And, you must admit, neither has a single Evangelical Taliban
minister. Why is it we never see the televangelist scammers restore
sight to the blind? No Creationist has ever created a living organism
from a lump of clay, why?
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman,
both of them have committed an abomination: they shall
surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Please explain why this OT law is relevant to the 21st century. What
mechanism will you use to have Lev. 20:13 placed into the civil law
without admitting all the other laws? And, why should/shouldn't these
laws be enforced by civil authorities?
JohnN
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: What It Means to Be 'Pro Choice'. 'Lucifers Choice' |
03 Mar 2004 02:13:40 PM |
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In article <c25dbe$bfg$4@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net>, Warnock says...
"oldwetdog" <old*wet*dog@netscapeD0Tnet> wrote in message
news:103qk81205vid12@corp.supernews.com...
Please note that there is no one in
"alt.christnet.christianlife"
who is interested in this discussion.
****** Well now, we are discussing atheists, abortion and fags - three
things that I think should be of interest to posters in
alt.christnet.christianlife .It is the lifestyle of these three groups that
Christians need to look into!
Personally, I think christians need to mind their own freakin' business.
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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| User: "Warnock" |
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03 Mar 2004 02:46:24 PM |
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"Robibnikoff" <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote in message
news:U%q1c.5224$_4.227@www.newsranger.com...
Please note that there is no one in
"alt.christnet.christianlife"
who is interested in this discussion.
****** Well now, we are discussing atheists, abortion and fags - three
things that I think should be of interest to posters in
alt.christnet.christianlife .It is the lifestyle of these three groups
that
Christians need to look into!
Personally, I think christians need to mind their own freakin' business.
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
*** *** Well, you are the third party to this thread, so how about you mind
your business!
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**** The fact that the greatest scientists, to their utter dismay, can't
breath life into a dead body or create a perfect animal and breath life into
it - is PROOF of a higher intelligence! ****
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman,
both of them have committed an abomination: they shall
surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
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| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
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| Title: Re: What It Means to Be 'Pro Choice'. 'Lucifers Choice' |
03 Mar 2004 03:48:32 PM |
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"Warnock" <warnnock@pop.co.za> writes:
"Robibnikoff" <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote in message
news:U%q1c.5224$_4.227@www.newsranger.com...
Please note that there is no one in
"alt.christnet.christianlife"
who is interested in this discussion.
****** Well now, we are discussing atheists, abortion and fags - three
things that I think should be of interest to posters in
alt.christnet.christianlife .It is the lifestyle of these three groups that
Christians need to look into!
Personally, I think christians need to mind their own freakin' business.
*** *** Well, you are the third party to this thread, so how about you mind
your business!
Why? You're hell and be damned to mind the business of everyone that dares to
disagree with you...what's the matter, are you too good for the rules you
demand the rest of us obey?
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2003-04 Houston Aeros)
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| User: "ZenIsWhen" |
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| Title: Re: What It Means to Be 'Pro Choice'. 'Lucifers Choice' |
03 Mar 2004 04:56:29 PM |
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"Warnock" <warnnock@pop.co.za> wrote in message
news:c25g8j$csb$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net...
"Robibnikoff" <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote in message
news:U%q1c.5224$_4.227@www.newsranger.com...
Please note that there is no one in
"alt.christnet.christianlife"
who is interested in this discussion.
****** Well now, we are discussing atheists, abortion and fags - three
things that I think should be of interest to posters in
alt.christnet.christianlife .It is the lifestyle of these three groups
that
Christians need to look into!
Personally, I think christians need to mind their own freakin' business.
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
*** *** Well, you are the third party to this thread, so how about you
mind
your business!
--
**** The fact that the greatest scientists, to their utter dismay, can't
breath life into a dead body or create a perfect animal and breath life
into
it - is PROOF of a higher intelligence! ****
The FACT is .... that is a totally stupid claim!
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: What It Means to Be 'Pro Choice'. 'Lucifers Choice' |
03 Mar 2004 02:57:53 PM |
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In article <c25g8j$csb$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net>, Warnock says...
"Robibnikoff" <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote in message
news:U%q1c.5224$_4.227@www.newsranger.com...
Please note that there is no one in
"alt.christnet.christianlife"
who is interested in this discussion.
****** Well now, we are discussing atheists, abortion and fags - three
things that I think should be of interest to posters in
alt.christnet.christianlife .It is the lifestyle of these three groups
that
Christians need to look into!
Personally, I think christians need to mind their own freakin' business.
*** *** Well, you are the third party to this thread, so how about you mind
your business!
You first, you loon.
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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| User: "diana lyster" |
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| Title: Re: What It Means to Be 'Pro Choice'. 'Lucifers Choice' |
05 Mar 2004 07:55:17 AM |
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Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote in message news:<U%q1c.5224$_4.227@www.newsranger.com>...
In article <c25dbe$bfg$4@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net>, Warnock says...
"oldwetdog" <old*wet*dog@netscapeD0Tnet> wrote in message
news:103qk81205vid12@corp.supernews.com...
Please note that there is no one in
"alt.christnet.christianlife"
who is interested in this discussion.
****** Well now, we are discussing atheists, abortion and fags - three
things that I think should be of interest to posters in
alt.christnet.christianlife .It is the lifestyle of these three groups that
Christians need to look into!
Personally, I think christians need to mind their own freakin' business.
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
infant murder is kinda hard to ignore.
diana
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| User: "Attila" |
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| Title: Re: What It Means to Be 'Pro Choice'. 'Lucifers Choice' |
05 Mar 2004 08:49:29 AM |
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On 5 Mar 2004 05:55:17 -0800, (diana lyster)
in alt.abortion with message-id
<d144cd13.0403050555.2b7ae886@posting.google.com> wrote:
Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote in message news:<U%q1c.5224$_4.227@www.newsranger.com>...
In article <c25dbe$bfg$4@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net>, Warnock says...
"oldwetdog" <old*wet*dog@netscapeD0Tnet> wrote in message
news:103qk81205vid12@corp.supernews.com...
Please note that there is no one in
"alt.christnet.christianlife"
who is interested in this discussion.
****** Well now, we are discussing atheists, abortion and fags - three
things that I think should be of interest to posters in
alt.christnet.christianlife .It is the lifestyle of these three groups that
Christians need to look into!
Personally, I think christians need to mind their own freakin' business.
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
infant murder is kinda hard to ignore.
Generally people who do this are prosecuted.
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| User: "--sexkitten--" |
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| Title: Re: What It Means to Be 'Pro Choice'. 'Lucifers Choice' |
05 Mar 2004 05:50:00 PM |
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diana lyster wrote:
Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote in message news:<U%q1c.5224$_4.227@www.newsranger.com>...
In article <c25dbe$bfg$4@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net>, Warnock says...
"oldwetdog" <old*wet*dog@netscapeD0Tnet> wrote in message
news:103qk81205vid12@corp.supernews.com...
Please note that there is no one in
"alt.christnet.christianlife"
who is interested in this discussion.
****** Well now, we are discussing atheists, abortion and fags - three
things that I think should be of interest to posters in
alt.christnet.christianlife .It is the lifestyle of these three groups that
Christians need to look into!
Personally, I think christians need to mind their own freakin' business.
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
infant murder is kinda hard to ignore.
So find some and focus on it. No matter how much you want to change it,
a fetus is not an infant, and wishing it so isn't going to change that fact.
diana
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| User: "Jesus Is Lord" |
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16 Apr 2004 08:10:11 PM |
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Personally, I think christians need to mind their own freakin' business
so you are saying you are heading for A Burning HELL
let me go there don't warn me . well the great commission is to warn the
lost and let them know that it is heaven or hell your choice. Repent i hope
you find fellowship with a good bible believeing church and turn to Jesus
PLEDGE TO THE BIBLE
I pledge allegiance to the Bible, God's Holy Word, I will make it a lamp
unto my feet and a light unto my path and will hide its words in my heart
that I might not sin against God.
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:598q409dpjm6thjbb1p586vn7i4iqn3fgd@4ax.com...
On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 18:11:13 -0600, "Jesus Is Lord"
<dwsnyder@grnco.net> in alt.abortion with message-id
<404d2042@george.grnco.net> wrote:
we're trying to reach the ones we can cause it is heaven or hell
sexkitten
through love we are trying to reach the lost Jesus is the way the truth
and
the life. You should feel loved that someone is trying to witness to you
about the lord jesus christ. see jesus must be lord. I hope you realize
that if someone is trying to reach you , you should feel loved because
god
loves you very much he made a way to be with him through Jesus christ. I
hope you accept him as lord and get into the word of god the holy bible.
What is Top-Posting and why is it considered bad?
http://www.dickalba.demon.co.uk/usenet/guide/faq_topp.html
Please advise exactly why your god has any more validity that any of
the following:
Ahura Mazda, Ahriman, Allah, An, Angra Mainyu, Annana, Aphrodite,
Ares, Athena, Apollo, Artemis, Babaluaye, Bacchus, Baldur, Bast,
Bellona, Brahma, Brigid, Ceres, Cupid, Cerridwen, Demeter, Diana,
Dione, Dionysus, Eris, Eos, El, Eleggua, Enki, Enlil, Eshu,
Ereshkigal, Frigga, Frey, Freya, Gaea, Hades, Hebe, Hecate, Hera,
Helios, Hel, Hephaestus, Hermes, Hestia, Horus, Ibeji, Ifa, Inanna,
Indra, Ishana, Ishtar, Isis, Janus, Juno, Jehovah, Jove, Jupiter,
Kali, Ki, Krishna Kronos, Korravai, Loki, Lugh, Manitou, Mars,
Mercury, Minerva, Mercurius, Moloch, Morrigan, Nahuiquiahuitl,
Nanahuatzin, Nephthys, Neptune, Obatala, Odin, Ogun, Oshosi, Oshun,
Osiris, Oya, Orunmila, Olokun, Olodumare, Pluto, Persephone, Poseidon,
Proserpina, Quetzalcoatl, Ra, Rhea, Satan, Saturn, Set, Selene,
Shango, Shiva, Tammuz, Thor, Tir, Tiw, Uranus, Venus, Vesta, Vishnu,
Vesta, Vulcan, Wotan, Yahweh, Yemaya, Zeus,and possibly
LintŪ the Laundry God, Rex the Hamster, and Star Goat
"--sexkitten--" <ladyhawk_twonospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c2b3n8$1r60qt$3@ID-163025.news.uni-berlin.de...
diana lyster wrote:
Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote in message
news:<U%q1c.5224$_4.227@www.newsranger.com>...
In article <c25dbe$bfg$4@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net>, Warnock says...
"oldwetdog" <old*wet*dog@netscapeD0Tnet> wrote in message
news:103qk81205vid12@corp.supernews.com...
Please note that there is no one in
"alt.christnet.christianlife"
who is interested in this discussion.
****** Well now, we are discussing atheists, abortion and fags -
three
things that I think should be of interest to posters in
alt.christnet.christianlife .It is the lifestyle of these three
groups
that
Christians need to look into!
Personally, I think christians need to mind their own freakin'
business.
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
infant murder is kinda hard to ignore.
So find some and focus on it. No matter how much you want to change it,
a fetus is not an infant, and wishing it so isn't going to change that
fact.
diana
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16 Apr 2004 08:19:18 PM |
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On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 20:10:11 -0500, "Jesus Is Lord"
<dwsnyder@grnco.net> wrote:
Personally, I think christians need to mind their own freakin' business
so you are saying you are heading for A Burning HELL
Eat ***** and die.
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| User: "Jesus Is Lord" |
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17 Apr 2004 10:23:36 AM |
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if you do not accept jesus christ as lord Yes you are heading there i hope
you see the gospel light, and accept jesus as lord and savior. He came to
this earth to die for you and on the third day he rose again and all that
accept him will spend eternity in heaven with him and those that don't will
spend eternity in Hell. He loves you (God) Jesus would not send anyone to
hell But he gives the people free choice to chose. Life is full of choices
and what you do in the life will determine where you spend eternity. they
are only two choices for eternity they are Heaven or Hell ,the way you live
your life and sins has consequences and they will catch up to you maybe not
today or tommorrow but they will find you out . we are not promised
tommorrow that is why the bible says today is the day of salvation. And i am
telling you this out of love Because Jesus Loves you i hope i didn't sound
to harsh but i tell you the truth.
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PLEDGE TO THE BIBLE
I pledge allegiance to the Bible, God's Holy Word, I will make it a lamp
unto my feet and a light unto my path and will hide its words in my heart
that I might not sin against God.
"MyTwoAngels" <krisblakemy2babies@spamu.xmsg.com> wrote in message
news:vf11805emt9pjlfmrogsf7jsj7r1ogmmfi@4ax.com...
On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 20:10:11 -0500, "Jesus Is Lord"
<dwsnyder@grnco.net> wrote:
Personally, I think christians need to mind their own freakin' business
so you are saying you are heading for A Burning HELL
Eat ***** and die.
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| User: "David Barnes" |
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17 Apr 2004 10:57:08 AM |
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In article <4081626e@george.grnco.net>, Jesus Is Lord
<dwsnyder@grnco.net> wrote:
if you do not accept jesus christ as lord Yes you are heading there i hope
you see the gospel light, and accept jesus as lord and savior.
I know a guy who had a near death experience. He actually conversed,
in some way, with Jesus Christ. And you know what Jesus Christ said?
He said it really pisses him off when people fail to capitalize his
name. He said they too will burn in everlasting Hell. You better work
on that...
He came to
this earth to die for you and on the third day he rose again and all that
accept him will spend eternity in heaven with him and those that don't will
spend eternity in Hell.
Why do you suppose that is? Why would Jesus Christ, God, or anyone
else, for that matter, hope to convince people to accept something, not
on the merits, but on a threat? Does Jesus Christ and God really want
people to pretend to believe because of some fear that they might end
up in Hell if they don't? If that really the standard they have for
the human race? Hypocrisy?
He loves you (God) Jesus would not send anyone to
hell But he gives the people free choice to chose.
To choose? But if we choose poorly he sends us to Hell, correct? So,
"God would not send anyone to Hell" really isn't true, is it?
Life is full of choices
and what you do in the life will determine where you spend eternity. they
are only two choices for eternity they are Heaven or Hell ,the way you live
your life and sins has consequences and they will catch up to you maybe not
today or tommorrow but they will find you out.
I see. So if we pretend to believe we end up in Heaven. But if we
apply the same standard to God as everything else in our lives, some
kind of proof, we go to Hell. Makes sense to me.
we are not promised
tommorrow that is why the bible says today is the day of salvation. And i am
telling you this out of love Because Jesus Loves you i hope i didn't sound
to harsh but i tell you the truth.
Apparently Jesus loves us so much he seeks to send us to everlasting
Hell if we don't do as he wishes. Apparently, God wants us to be
hypocrites. Correct?
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17 Apr 2004 08:40:36 PM |
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well it is not pretending to be anything you either are or you are not it is
simple. If you cannot get passed yourself then you cannot do the will of the
father , so we do not do our own will but his Jesus we find out By Praying
and reading his word. Holy Bible and i am sorry if i sound like i am trying
to scare you i am not out of love i Share this Message and in reality i
would be scared if i knew i was heading to everllastiing Fire , see you are
gonna live forever somewhere Heaven in the prescence of almighty God Jesus
or in hell where you will be in Darkness and Flames John chap3 v20 says
John 3:20
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the
light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
(reproved means expose). But do you think we are gonna change our world from
murder, rape ,disobedience, drunkenness. idolatry, hate, envy , jealousy,
and so on by living our lives only in our own selfishness. If we do the
fathers will and not our own our world would be a better place.. See they
got it wrong they say ohh look at our enviroment we owe it to our kids to
help it ,but that is not the tragedy , that is the moral decay of our world.
Or maybe oh lets safe that tree why don't we save that marriage or family by
not turning the husband and wife from each other we need Godly Faithful
husband and Wifes Living under the convenant they made with Jesus Christ. We
need obedience to God and His word. see word are Cheap until you start
living them Many people say they believe but their deeds does not show it.
I am just trying to help my God and My world . Just think if everthing was
according to Gods Purpose we wouldn't need antidepressant medicine we would
need theraphy to recover from divorce ,or adultery,Being made fun of Etc
(My Health Care is High Enough) But we do not care who we hurt or run over
and that should be so. I pray for our country and world that they repent and
turn to Jesus Christ
If you are building on anything other than Jesus Your labor is in Vain.
God bless our country > our country life for christ
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PLEDGE TO THE BIBLE
I pledge allegiance to the Bible, God's Holy Word, I will make it a lamp
unto my feet and a light unto my path and will hide its words in my heart
that I might not sin against God.
"David Barnes" <pass@dbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:170420040857086164%pass@dbarnes.com...
In article <4081626e@george.grnco.net>, Jesus Is Lord
<dwsnyder@grnco.net> wrote:
if you do not accept jesus christ as lord Yes you are heading there i
hope
you see the gospel light, and accept jesus as lord and savior.
I know a guy who had a near death experience. He actually conversed,
in some way, with Jesus Christ. And you know what Jesus Christ said?
He said it really pisses him off when people fail to capitalize his
name. He said they too will burn in everlasting Hell. You better work
on that...
He came to
this earth to die for you and on the third day he rose again and all
that
accept him will spend eternity in heaven with him and those that don't
will
spend eternity in Hell.
Why do you suppose that is? Why would Jesus Christ, God, or anyone
else, for that matter, hope to convince people to accept something, not
on the merits, but on a threat? Does Jesus Christ and God really want
people to pretend to believe because of some fear that they might end
up in Hell if they don't? If that really the standard they have for
the human race? Hypocrisy?
He loves you (God) Jesus would not send anyone to
hell But he gives the people free choice to chose.
To choose? But if we choose poorly he sends us to Hell, correct? So,
"God would not send anyone to Hell" really isn't true, is it?
Life is full of choices
and what you do in the life will determine where you spend eternity.
they
are only two choices for eternity they are Heaven or Hell ,the way you
live
your life and sins has consequences and they will catch up to you maybe
not
today or tommorrow but they will find you out.
I see. So if we pretend to believe we end up in Heaven. But if we
apply the same standard to God as everything else in our lives, some
kind of proof, we go to Hell. Makes sense to me.
we are not promised
tommorrow that is why the bible says today is the day of salvation. And
i am
telling you this out of love Because Jesus Loves you i hope i didn't
sound
to harsh but i tell you the truth.
Apparently Jesus loves us so much he seeks to send us to everlasting
Hell if we don't do as he wishes. Apparently, God wants us to be
hypocrites. Correct?
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17 Apr 2004 09:45:56 PM |
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In article <4081f312@george.grnco.net>, Jesus Is Lord
<dwsnyder@grnco.net> wrote:
well it is not pretending to be anything you either are or you are not it is
simple. If you cannot get passed yourself then you cannot do the will of the
father , so we do not do our own will but his Jesus we find out By Praying
and reading his word.
But if that is true, what is the purpose of threatening people with
Hell?
Holy Bible and i am sorry if i sound like i am trying
to scare you i am not out of love i Share this Message and in reality i
would be scared if i knew i was heading to everllastiing Fire , see you are
gonna live forever somewhere Heaven in the prescence of almighty God Jesus
or in hell where you will be in Darkness and Flames John chap3 v20 says
John 3:20
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the
light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
(reproved means expose). But do you think we are gonna change our world from
murder, rape ,disobedience, drunkenness. idolatry, hate, envy , jealousy,
and so on by living our lives only in our own selfishness. If we do the
fathers will and not our own our world would be a better place.. See they
got it wrong they say ohh look at our enviroment we owe it to our kids to
help it ,but that is not the tragedy , that is the moral decay of our world.
Or maybe oh lets safe that tree why don't we save that marriage or family by
not turning the husband and wife from each other we need Godly Faithful
husband and Wifes Living under the convenant they made with Jesus Christ. We
need obedience to God and His word. see word are Cheap until you start
living them Many people say they believe but their deeds does not show it.
I am just trying to help my God and My world . Just think if everthing was
according to Gods Purpose we wouldn't need antidepressant medicine we would
need theraphy to recover from divorce ,or adultery,Being made fun of Etc
(My Health Care is High Enough) But we do not care who we hurt or run over
and that should be so. I pray for our country and world that they repent and
turn to Jesus Christ
If you are building on anything other than Jesus Your labor is in Vain.
God bless our country > our country life for christ
Sound like coercion to me...
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18 Apr 2004 03:20:08 PM |
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it is not a threat It is God's(Jesus) truth so God said it and that makes it
so.period. I am sorry if it sounded like a threat i never intended to be.
None of the other false gods will get you to heaven . Just Jesus He is the
way the truth and the life No one comes to the father except through Jesus.
You you can make up your rules for life and do your will , But until you
start doing the fathers will you are not in relationship with Him Period.
--
PLEDGE TO THE BIBLE
I pledge allegiance to the Bible, God's Holy Word, I will make it a lamp
unto my feet and a light unto my path and will hide its words in my heart
that I might not sin against God.
"David Barnes" <pass@dbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:170420041945565961%pass@dbarnes.com...
In article <4081f312@george.grnco.net>, Jesus Is Lord
<dwsnyder@grnco.net> wrote:
well it is not pretending to be anything you either are or you are not
it is
simple. If you cannot get passed yourself then you cannot do the will of
the
father , so we do not do our own will but his Jesus we find out By
Praying
and reading his word.
But if that is true, what is the purpose of threatening people with
Hell?
Holy Bible and i am sorry if i sound like i am trying
to scare you i am not out of love i Share this Message and in reality i
would be scared if i knew i was heading to everllastiing Fire , see you
are
gonna live forever somewhere Heaven in the prescence of almighty God
Jesus
or in hell where you will be in Darkness and Flames John chap3 v20 says
John 3:20
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the
light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
(reproved means expose). But do you think we are gonna change our world
from
murder, rape ,disobedience, drunkenness. idolatry, hate, envy ,
jealousy,
and so on by living our lives only in our own selfishness. If we do the
fathers will and not our own our world would be a better place.. See the
y
got it wrong they say ohh look at our enviroment we owe it to our kids
to
help it ,but that is not the tragedy , that is the moral decay of our
world.
Or maybe oh lets safe that tree why don't we save that marriage or
family by
not turning the husband and wife from each other we need Godly Faithful
husband and Wifes Living under the convenant they made with Jesus
Christ. We
need obedience to God and His word. see word are Cheap until you start
living them Many people say they believe but their deeds does not show
it.
I am just trying to help my God and My world . Just think if everthing
was
according to Gods Purpose we wouldn't need antidepressant medicine we
would
need theraphy to recover from divorce ,or adultery,Being made fun of
Etc
(My Health Care is High Enough) But we do not care who we hurt or run
over
and that should be so. I pray for our country and world that they repent
and
turn to Jesus Christ
If you are building on anything other than Jesus Your labor is in Vain.
God bless our country > our country life for christ
Sound like coercion to me...
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18 Apr 2004 04:09:39 PM |
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In article <4082f976@george.grnco.net>, Jesus Is Lord
<dwsnyder@grnco.net> wrote:
it is not a threat It is God's(Jesus) truth so God said it and that makes it
so.period.
I am not arguing that point. I just want to know why God would make up
that kind of rule. Don't you think it would be better to actually have
people believe that say they do out of fear?
I am sorry if it sounded like a threat i never intended to be.
What other purpose could it serve?
None of the other false gods will get you to heaven. Just Jesus He is the
way the truth and the life No one comes to the father except through Jesus.
You you can make up your rules for life and do your will , But until you
start doing the fathers will you are not in relationship with Him Period.
How do you know you have it right while the Jews, Buddhists, etc., have
it wrong?
I want to be certain I choose the "correct" religion.
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| User: "Jesus Is Lord" |
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19 Apr 2004 08:05:30 PM |
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In Jesus Name
You can all reason with the scriptures all you want but they are truth and
light .
Prov 3:5
5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own
understanding.
see you can life by gods word and do his will, Or your choice you can not
live by gods word and do your will .
Mark 3:35-4:1
35 For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my
sister, and mother.
In god holy word it says that the beginning of wisdom is the fear of the
lord. And god gives each of us free choice to accept himas lord or deny him.
And the whole bible is gods word and truth Period, God spoke it and that
makes it so. all from front to back of the Holy bible is Gods word and truth
.. So i ask is the word of God teaching you ? Is the word of god correcting
You ? Does the Word Of god Abide In you?
Ps 119:105
105 Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and light unto my path.
2 Tim 3:16-17
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for
doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good
works.
Prov 8:13
13 The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil
way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.
--
PLEDGE TO THE BIBLE
I pledge allegiance to the Bible, God's Holy Word, I will make it a lamp
unto my feet and a light unto my path and will hide its words in my heart
that I might not sin against God.
"David W. Barnes" <VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:180420041409394279%VoteKerry@dbarnes.com...
In article <4082f976@george.grnco.net>, Jesus Is Lord
<dwsnyder@grnco.net> wrote:
it is not a threat It is God's(Jesus) truth so God said it and that
makes it
so.period.
I am not arguing that point. I just want to know why God would make up
that kind of rule. Don't you think it would be better to actually have
people believe that say they do out of fear?
I am sorry if it sounded like a threat i never intended to be.
What other purpose could it serve?
None of the other false gods will get you to heaven. Just Jesus He is
the
way the truth and the life No one comes to the father except through
Jesus.
You you can make up your rules for life and do your will , But until you
start doing the fathers will you are not in relationship with Him
Period.
How do you know you have it right while the Jews, Buddhists, etc., have
it wrong?
I want to be certain I choose the "correct" religion.
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| User: ":::vera:::" |
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20 Apr 2004 04:20:03 PM |
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"Jesus Is Lord" <dwsnyder@grnco.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:40848de2@george.grnco.net...
In Jesus Name
You can all reason with the scriptures all you want but they are truth and
light .
Prov 3:5
5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own
understanding.
see you can life by gods word and do his will, Or your choice you can not
live by gods word and do your will .
Mark 3:35-4:1
35 For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my
sister, and mother.
In god holy word it says that the beginning of wisdom is the fear of the
lord. And god gives each of us free choice to accept himas lord or deny him.
And the whole bible is gods word and truth Period, God spoke it and that
makes it so. all from front to back of the Holy bible is Gods word and truth
. So i ask is the word of God teaching you ? Is the word of god correcting
You ? Does the Word Of god Abide In you?
Ps 119:105
105 Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and light unto my path.
2 Tim 3:16-17
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for
doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good
works.
Prov 8:13
13 The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil
way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.
--
PLEDGE TO THE BIBLE
I pledge allegiance to the Bible, God's Holy Word, I will make it a lamp
unto my feet and a light unto my path and will hide its words in my heart
that I might not sin against God.
Very true indeed.
God Bless you,
::: vera :::
But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our
Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
To him be glory both now and for ever.
Amen. (2Peter 3:18 - KJV)
--
"GROWING DEEPER" on
:::::::::: http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de ::::::::::
:::::::::: http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de/Israel.htm ::::::::::
"David W. Barnes" <VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:180420041409394279%VoteKerry@dbarnes.com...
In article <4082f976@george.grnco.net>, Jesus Is Lord
<dwsnyder@grnco.net> wrote:
it is not a threat It is God's(Jesus) truth so God said it and that
makes it
so.period.
I am not arguing that point. I just want to know why God would make up
that kind of rule. Don't you think it would be better to actually have
people believe that say they do out of fear?
I am sorry if it sounded like a threat i never intended to be.
What other purpose could it serve?
None of the other false gods will get you to heaven. Just Jesus He is
the
way the truth and the life No one comes to the father except through
Jesus.
You you can make up your rules for life and do your will , But until you
start doing the fathers will you are not in relationship with Him
Period.
How do you know you have it right while the Jews, Buddhists, etc., have
it wrong?
I want to be certain I choose the "correct" religion.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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19 Apr 2004 11:28:16 PM |
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In article <40848de2@george.grnco.net>, Jesus Is Lord
<dwsnyder@grnco.net> wrote:
Again, how do you know you have it right while the Jews, Buddhists,
etc., have it wrong?
I want to be certain I choose the "correct" religion.
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18 Apr 2004 04:45:20 PM |
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Jesus Is Lord <dwsnyder@grnco.net> wrote:
it is not a threat It is God's(Jesus) truth so God said it
You're not God.
You're not Jesus.
You don't speak for God.
You don't speak for Jesus.
They are YOUR claims.
Your "truth" is not God's truth.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Aubz" |
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18 Apr 2004 04:40:34 PM |
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Jesus Is Lord scrivened news:4081f312@george.grnco.net in alt.atheism:
well it is not pretending to be anything you either are or you are not
it is simple. If you cannot get passed yourself then you cannot do the
will of the father , so we do not do our own will but his Jesus we
find out By Praying and reading his word. Holy Bible and i am sorry
if i sound like i am trying to scare you i am not out of love i Share
this Message and in reality i would be scared if i knew i was heading
to everllastiing Fire , see you are gonna live forever somewhere
Heaven in the prescence of almighty God Jesus or in hell where you
will be in Darkness and Flames John chap3 v20 says John 3:20
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to
the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
(reproved means expose). But do you think we are gonna change our
world from murder, rape ,disobedience, drunkenness. idolatry, hate,
envy , jealousy, and so on by living our lives only in our own
selfishness. If we do the fathers will and not our own our world
would be a better place.. See they got it wrong they say ohh look at
our enviroment we owe it to our kids to help it ,but that is not the
tragedy , that is the moral decay of our world. Or maybe oh lets safe
that tree why don't we save that marriage or family by not turning the
husband and wife from each other we need Godly Faithful husband and
Wifes Living under the convenant they made with Jesus Christ. We need
obedience to God and His word. see word are Cheap until you start
living them Many people say they believe but their deeds does not show
it. I am just trying to help my God and My world . Just think if
everthing was according to Gods Purpose we wouldn't need
antidepressant medicine we would need theraphy to recover from divorce
,or adultery,Being made fun of Etc (My Health Care is High Enough)
But we do not care who we hurt or run over and that should be so. I
pray for our country and world that they repent and turn to Jesus
Christ If you are building on anything other than Jesus Your labor is
in Vain. God bless our country > our country life for christ
Why do you xians think anybody of even the meanest of intelligence is going
to be scared by your fairy tales? Do you still sleep with the light on to
avoid the bogeyman under the bed?
PLEDGE TO THE BIBLE
I pledge allegiance to the Bible, God's Holy Word, I will make it a lamp
unto my feet and a light unto my path and will hide its words in my heart
that I might not sin against God.
Actually,the wholly babble is all but useless as a lamp,they don't burn
long or bright.They make superb kindling though.
--
"There was a time when I believed in the story and the scheme of salvation,
so far as I could understand it, just as I believed there was a Devil. . .
.. Suddenly the light broke through to me and I knew this God was a lie. . .
.. For indeed it is a silly story, and each generation nowadays swallows it
with greater difficulty. . . . Why do people go on pretending about this
Christianity?" H. G. Wells
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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17 Apr 2004 01:35:04 PM |
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On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 10:23:36 -0500, "Jesus Is Lord"
<dwsnyder@grnco.net> wrote:
if you do not accept jesus christ as lord Yes you are heading there i hope
you see the gospel light, and accept jesus as lord and savior. He came to
this earth to die for you and on the third day he rose again and all that
accept him will spend eternity in heaven with him and those that don't will
spend eternity in Hell. He loves you (God) Jesus would not send anyone to
hell But he gives the people free choice to chose. Life is full of choices
and what you do in the life will determine where you spend eternity. they
are only two choices for eternity they are Heaven or Hell ,the way you live
your life and sins has consequences and they will catch up to you maybe not
today or tommorrow but they will find you out . we are not promised
tommorrow that is why the bible says today is the day of salvation. And i am
telling you this out of love Because Jesus Loves you i hope i didn't sound
to harsh but i tell you the truth.
What is it with you in-you-face, illiterate, ignorant, gullible,
stupid, morons?
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| User: "Enkidu" |
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17 Apr 2004 02:08:54 PM |
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In article <i5u2805vrobrf6g1fnlu8glpp8nolqgmr3@4ax.com>,
calee@optonline.net says...
On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 10:23:36 -0500, "Jesus Is Lord"
<dwsnyder@grnco.net> wrote:
if you do not accept jesus christ as lord Yes you are heading there i hope
you see the gospel light, and accept jesus as lord and savior. He came to
this earth to die for you and on the third day he rose again and all that
accept him will spend eternity in heaven with him and those that don't will
spend eternity in Hell. He loves you (God) Jesus would not send anyone to
hell But he gives the people free choice to chose. Life is full of choices
and what you do in the life will determine where you spend eternity. they
are only two choices for eternity they are Heaven or Hell ,the way you live
your life and sins has consequences and they will catch up to you maybe not
today or tommorrow but they will find you out . we are not promised
tommorrow that is why the bible says today is the day of salvation. And i am
telling you this out of love Because Jesus Loves you i hope i didn't sound
to harsh but i tell you the truth.
What is it with you in-you-face, illiterate, ignorant, gullible,
stupid, morons?
Didn't you just answer your own question? :-)
--
Enkidu
AA# 2165
"Suppose we've chosen the wrong god. Every time we
go to church we're just making him madder and madder."
--Homer Simpson
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17 Apr 2004 08:42:50 PM |
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It is amazing that people believe in angels and not God (Jesus) uhmmm
doesn't make sense.
--
PLEDGE TO THE BIBLE
I pledge allegiance to the Bible, God's Holy Word, I will make it a lamp
unto my feet and a light unto my path and will hide its words in my heart
that I might not sin against God.
"Enkidu" <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in message
news:MPG.1aeb20a128c88b539896a1@news.west.cox.net...
In article <i5u2805vrobrf6g1fnlu8glpp8nolqgmr3@4ax.com>,
calee@optonline.net says...
On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 10:23:36 -0500, "Jesus Is Lord"
<dwsnyder@grnco.net> wrote:
if you do not accept jesus christ as lord Yes you are heading there i
hope
you see the gospel light, and accept jesus as lord and savior. He came
to
this earth to die for you and on the third day he rose again and all
that
accept him will spend eternity in heaven with him and those that don't
will
spend eternity in Hell. He loves you (God) Jesus would not send anyone
to
hell But he gives the people free choice to chose. Life is full of
choices
and what you do in the life will determine where you spend eternity.
they
are only two choices for eternity they are Heaven or Hell ,the way you
live
your life and sins has consequences and they will catch up to you maybe
not
today or tommorrow but they will find you out . we are not promised
tommorrow that is why the bible says today is the day of salvation. And
i am
telling you this out of love Because Jesus Loves you i hope i didn't
sound
to harsh but i tell you the truth.
What is it with you in-you-face, illiterate, ignorant, gullible,
stupid, morons?
Didn't you just answer your own question? :-)
--
Enkidu
AA# 2165
"Suppose we've chosen the wrong god. Every time we
go to church we're just making him madder and madder."
--Homer Simpson
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| User: "Enkidu" |
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| Title: Re: What It Means to Be 'Pro Choice'. 'Lucifers Choice' |
17 Apr 2004 09:03:27 PM |
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In article <4081f392@george.grnco.net>, says...
It is amazing that people believe in angels and not God (Jesus) uhmmm
doesn't make sense.
Right. But them people believe in Jesus but not Allah. People believe
in Allah but not Zeus. If you believe in one supernatural being, you
ought to believe in them all, because the evidence for each is
identical.
--
Enkidu
AA# 2165
"Suppose we've chosen the wrong god. Every time we
go to church we're just making him madder and madder."
--Homer Simpson
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