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"meliva" |
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25 Feb 2004 01:26:52 AM |
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What It Means to Be 'Pro Choice'. 'Lucifers Choice' |
I just want you to know What It Means to Be 'Pro Choice'.
You abortion-rights sinners systematically preach that women's health is
your primary concern, but your blind allegiance to abortion, at all costs,
is terribly disconcerting.
That there my friends is the abortion-rights atrocity - you believe your
cause is honorable - and should not be hindered in any way. But let me warn
you this, God will not forgive you. Your cause is disgraceful and deceitful.
DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND HOW TERRIBLE PARTIAL ABORTION IS. WHY DO YOU OPPOSE
EFFORTS TO DENY A CHILDS ITS LIFE OR HELP GIVE A CHILDLESS COUPLE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO WELCOME A PRECIOUS CHILD INTO THEIR HOMES!!
Your allegiance for continued slaughter of unborn children, all under the
false guise of "choice," "women's health" and "freedom" is absolutely
despicable.
But the tide is now turning.
Did you know that the U.S. Senate overwhelmingly passed a bill last week
that would ban partial-birth abortions. :) Oh yes. The House is expected to
pass similar legislation this spring. And President Bush has promised to
sign a ban into LAW.
Condemned the vote all you want. Abortions will be gone. Gay marriages will
be gone. Christianity is returning to our homeland.
Glory be to god. Amen.
b.b
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| User: "Daniel Kolle" |
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| Title: Re: What It Means to Be 'Pro Choice'. 'Lucifers Choice' |
25 Feb 2004 05:27:08 PM |
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<snip>
I have mixed views on abortion. You and I both know fully well some
women use it as a form of birth control. Personal responsibility is so
rare these days. Give the child up for adoption.
However, if the mother gets either pregnant from a rape (some
might argue with me on this one) or if the baby threatens the life of
the mother, I support it.
So, what does that make me? Pro-choice? Pro-rational choice,
maybe?
--
-Daniel "Mr. Brevity" Kolle; 15 A.A. #2035
Koji Kondo, Yo-Yo Ma, Gustav Mahler, and Krzysztof Penderecki are my Gods.
Madly Insane EAC Scientist.
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| User: "jaime barrio" |
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| Title: Re: What It Means to Be 'Pro Choice'. 'Lucifers Choice' |
25 Feb 2004 05:43:03 AM |
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"meliva" <mel432@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:-oqdnQXVh-nX06HdRVn2uQ@giganews.com...
I just want you to know What It Means to Be 'Pro Choice'.
You abortion-rights sinners systematically preach that women's health is
your primary concern, but your blind allegiance to abortion, at all costs,
is terribly disconcerting.
That there my friends is the abortion-rights atrocity - you believe your
cause is honorable - and should not be hindered in any way. But let me
warn
you this, God will not forgive you. Your cause is disgraceful and
deceitful.
DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND HOW TERRIBLE PARTIAL ABORTION IS. WHY DO YOU OPPOSE
EFFORTS TO DENY A CHILDS ITS LIFE OR HELP GIVE A CHILDLESS COUPLE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO WELCOME A PRECIOUS CHILD INTO THEIR HOMES!!
Your allegiance for continued slaughter of unborn children, all under the
false guise of "choice," "women's health" and "freedom" is absolutely
despicable.
But the tide is now turning.
Did you know that the U.S. Senate overwhelmingly passed a bill last week
that would ban partial-birth abortions. :) Oh yes. The House is expected
to
pass similar legislation this spring. And President Bush has promised to
sign a ban into LAW.
Condemned the vote all you want. Abortions will be gone. Gay marriages
will
be gone. Christianity is returning to our homeland.
Glory be to god. Amen.
b.b
I care.
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| User: "Andrew Campbell" |
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| Title: Re: What It Means to Be 'Pro Choice'. 'Lucifers Choice' |
25 Feb 2004 05:01:40 PM |
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"meliva" <mel432@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:-oqdnQXVh-nX06HdRVn2uQ@giganews.com...
I just want you to know What It Means to Be 'Pro Choice'.
You abortion-rights sinners systematically preach that women's health is
your primary concern, but your blind allegiance to abortion, at all costs,
is terribly disconcerting.
That there my friends is the abortion-rights atrocity - you believe your
cause is honorable - and should not be hindered in any way. But let me
warn
you this, God will not forgive you. Your cause is disgraceful and
deceitful.
DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND HOW TERRIBLE PARTIAL ABORTION IS. WHY DO YOU OPPOSE
EFFORTS TO DENY A CHILDS ITS LIFE OR HELP GIVE A CHILDLESS COUPLE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO WELCOME A PRECIOUS CHILD INTO THEIR HOMES!!
Your allegiance for continued slaughter of unborn children, all under the
false guise of "choice," "women's health" and "freedom" is absolutely
despicable.
But the tide is now turning.
Did you know that the U.S. Senate overwhelmingly passed a bill last week
that would ban partial-birth abortions. :) Oh yes. The House is expected
to
pass similar legislation this spring. And President Bush has promised to
sign a ban into LAW.
Condemned the vote all you want. Abortions will be gone. Gay marriages
will
be gone. Christianity is returning to our homeland.
Glory be to god. Amen.
b.b
Thank you for making me proud to be Canadian
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| User: "GentleOwlSpirit" |
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| Title: Re: What It Means to Be 'Pro Choice'. 'Lucifers Choice' |
25 Feb 2004 07:03:09 PM |
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Andrew Campbell wrote:
"meliva" <mel432@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:-oqdnQXVh-nX06HdRVn2uQ@giganews.com...
I just want you to know What It Means to Be 'Pro Choice'.
Hi, I'm posting from alt.christnet.christianlife
would you please stop crossposting?
thank you
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| User: "monotheist" |
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| Title: Re: What It Means to Be 'Pro Choice'. 'Lucifers Choice' |
25 Feb 2004 01:51:17 AM |
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"meliva" <mel432@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:-oqdnQXVh-nX06HdRVn2uQ@giganews.com...
I just want you to know What It Means to Be 'Pro Choice'.
You abortion-rights sinners systematically preach that women's health is
your primary concern, but your blind allegiance to abortion, at all costs,
is terribly disconcerting.
That there my friends is the abortion-rights atrocity - you believe your
cause is honorable - and should not be hindered in any way. But let me
warn
you this, God will not forgive you. Your cause is disgraceful and
deceitful.
DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND HOW TERRIBLE PARTIAL ABORTION IS. WHY DO YOU OPPOSE
EFFORTS TO DENY A CHILDS ITS LIFE OR HELP GIVE A CHILDLESS COUPLE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO WELCOME A PRECIOUS CHILD INTO THEIR HOMES!!
Your allegiance for continued slaughter of unborn children, all under the
false guise of "choice," "women's health" and "freedom" is absolutely
despicable.
But the tide is now turning.
Did you know that the U.S. Senate overwhelmingly passed a bill last week
that would ban partial-birth abortions. :) Oh yes. The House is expected
to
pass similar legislation this spring. And President Bush has promised to
sign a ban into LAW.
Condemned the vote all you want. Abortions will be gone. Gay marriages
will
be gone. Christianity is returning to our homeland.
Glory be to god. Amen.
Meliva I couldn't agree with you more. In fact thirty years after the U.S.
Supreme Court legalized abortion, it is increasingly evident that Americans
are embracing the pro-life cause. The fact is our nation is becoming
Pro-Life America!
Many Americans believe that women should have the right to choose and that
decision should be between a woman and her doctor.
Typical.
The abortion-rights community lives in a vacuum. It is a FACT that they
habitually cover up the many scientific studies which discovered a link
between breast cancer and abortion. They also disregard the FACT that women
undergoing abortions frequently suffer mental anguish; and they ignore the
most important fact that abortion stops a living, beating heart. A childs.
Keep the faith meliva. President Bush has said, "Every child is a priority
and a blessing, and I believe that all should be welcomed in life and
protected by law. Through ethical policies and the compassion of Americans,
we will continue to build a culture that respects life."
There is still hope.
monotheist
Vote Bush
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| User: "Maverick" |
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| Title: Re: What It Means to Be 'Pro Choice'. 'Lucifers Choice' |
25 Feb 2004 11:59:11 AM |
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"monotheist" <mtheist@REMOVEchristianlife.com> wrote in
news:WtadnbGrD_RyzqHdRVn2hg@giganews.com:
"meliva" <mel432@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:-oqdnQXVh-nX06HdRVn2uQ@giganews.com...
I just want you to know What It Means to Be 'Pro Choice'.
You abortion-rights sinners systematically preach that women's health
is your primary concern, but your blind allegiance to abortion, at
all costs, is terribly disconcerting.
That there my friends is the abortion-rights atrocity - you believe
your cause is honorable - and should not be hindered in any way. But
let me
warn
you this, God will not forgive you. Your cause is disgraceful and
deceitful.
DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND HOW TERRIBLE PARTIAL ABORTION IS. WHY DO YOU
OPPOSE EFFORTS TO DENY A CHILDS ITS LIFE OR HELP GIVE A CHILDLESS
COUPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WELCOME A PRECIOUS CHILD INTO THEIR HOMES!!
Your allegiance for continued slaughter of unborn children, all under
the false guise of "choice," "women's health" and "freedom" is
absolutely despicable.
But the tide is now turning.
Did you know that the U.S. Senate overwhelmingly passed a bill last
week that would ban partial-birth abortions. :) Oh yes. The House is
expected
to
pass similar legislation this spring. And President Bush has promised
to sign a ban into LAW.
Condemned the vote all you want. Abortions will be gone. Gay
marriages
will
be gone. Christianity is returning to our homeland.
Glory be to god. Amen.
Meliva I couldn't agree with you more. In fact thirty years after the
U.S. Supreme Court legalized abortion, it is increasingly evident that
Americans are embracing the pro-life cause. The fact is our nation is
becoming Pro-Life America!
Pro-Life sounds like people who want to preserve all life, or at least all
human life. This is not always the truth, so the term "anti-abortion"
should be better.
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| User: "meliva" |
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| Title: Re: What It Means to Be 'Pro Choice'. 'Lucifers Choice' |
25 Feb 2004 02:01:42 AM |
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"monotheist" <mtheist@REMOVEchristianlife.com> wrote in message
news:WtadnbGrD_RyzqHdRVn2hg@giganews.com...
"meliva" <mel432@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:-oqdnQXVh-nX06HdRVn2uQ@giganews.com...
I just want you to know What It Means to Be 'Pro Choice'.
You abortion-rights sinners systematically preach that women's health is
your primary concern, but your blind allegiance to abortion, at all
costs,
is terribly disconcerting.
That there my friends is the abortion-rights atrocity - you believe your
cause is honorable - and should not be hindered in any way. But let me
warn
you this, God will not forgive you. Your cause is disgraceful and
deceitful.
DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND HOW TERRIBLE PARTIAL ABORTION IS. WHY DO YOU OPPOSE
EFFORTS TO DENY A CHILDS ITS LIFE OR HELP GIVE A CHILDLESS COUPLE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO WELCOME A PRECIOUS CHILD INTO THEIR HOMES!!
Your allegiance for continued slaughter of unborn children, all under
the
false guise of "choice," "women's health" and "freedom" is absolutely
despicable.
But the tide is now turning.
Did you know that the U.S. Senate overwhelmingly passed a bill last week
that would ban partial-birth abortions. :) Oh yes. The House is expected
to
pass similar legislation this spring. And President Bush has promised to
sign a ban into LAW.
Condemned the vote all you want. Abortions will be gone. Gay marriages
will
be gone. Christianity is returning to our homeland.
Glory be to god. Amen.
Meliva I couldn't agree with you more. In fact thirty years after the U.S.
Supreme Court legalized abortion, it is increasingly evident that
Americans
are embracing the pro-life cause. The fact is our nation is becoming
Pro-Life America!
Many Americans believe that women should have the right to choose and that
decision should be between a woman and her doctor.
Typical.
The abortion-rights community lives in a vacuum. It is a FACT that they
habitually cover up the many scientific studies which discovered a link
between breast cancer and abortion. They also disregard the FACT that
women
undergoing abortions frequently suffer mental anguish; and they ignore the
most important fact that abortion stops a living, beating heart. A childs.
Hey have you heard about the new study revealing that a significant number
of women suffer mental anguish following an abortion?
Probably not because the liberal news media recurrently decline to broadcast
studies that cast a skeptical shadow on abortion. Now how typical is that.
Keep the faith meliva. President Bush has said, "Every child is a priority
and a blessing, and I believe that all should be welcomed in life and
protected by law. Through ethical policies and the compassion of
Americans,
we will continue to build a culture that respects life."
There is still hope.
Yes. Thank you monotheist. Thank God we have a president who understands the
value of all life.
b.b
monotheist
Vote Bush
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| User: "Entone" |
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| Title: Re: What It Means to Be 'Pro Choice'. 'Lucifers Choice' |
25 Feb 2004 02:12:17 AM |
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<trim>
Hey have you heard about the new study revealing that a significant number
of women suffer mental anguish following an abortion?
Probably not because the liberal news media recurrently decline to
broadcast
studies that cast a skeptical shadow on abortion. Now how typical is that.
Not typical at all. This countrys mainstream media are equally responsible
for concerted cover-ups, because they have been plainly willing to conceal
legitimate medical studies that have identified the serious risks associated
with abortion.
Shame shame shame on them all. tsk. tsk. tsk.
Keep the faith meliva. President Bush has said, "Every child is a
priority
and a blessing, and I believe that all should be welcomed in life and
protected by law. Through ethical policies and the compassion of
Americans,
we will continue to build a culture that respects life."
There is still hope.
Yes. Thank you monotheist. Thank God we have a president who understands
the
value of all life.
God has nothing to do with it.
b.b
monotheist
Vote Bush
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| User: "jaime barrio" |
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25 Feb 2004 05:46:45 AM |
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"meliva" <mel432@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:d-
Yes. Thank you monotheist. Thank God we have a president who understands
the
value of all life.
LMFAO, GWB is responsible for more innocent deaths
than your average abortion doctor. How long are you
going to troll with this nonsense?
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| User: "Acid King" |
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25 Feb 2004 02:20:41 AM |
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"meliva" blurted
: : Keep the faith meliva. President Bush has said, "Every child is a
priority
: : and a blessing, and I believe that all should be welcomed in life and
: : protected by law. Through ethical policies and the compassion of
: Americans,
: : we will continue to build a culture that respects life."
: :
: : There is still hope.
:
: Yes. Thank you monotheist. Thank God we have a president who understands
the
: value of all life.
Do any of you realize that we live in a nation which is arguably the most
powerful, and certainly, the most prosperous on Earth in the 21st friggin'
century, yet our elected leader and many of our representatives sincerely
believe, that at some point an invisible dead jew from 2000 years ago is
going to appear floating in the sky to magic the people who believe he is
a god back into some fairy tale heavenly kingdom?
Yikes!
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| User: "diana lyster" |
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03 Mar 2004 08:53:25 PM |
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"Acid King" <acid_inhailer@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<LMSdnd9q9t92x6HdRVn2gg@giganews.com>...
"meliva" blurted
: : Keep the faith meliva. President Bush has said, "Every child is a
priority
: : and a blessing, and I believe that all should be welcomed in life and
: : protected by law. Through ethical policies and the compassion of
Americans,
: : we will continue to build a culture that respects life."
: :
: : There is still hope.
:
: Yes. Thank you monotheist. Thank God we have a president who understands
the
: value of all life.
Do any of you realize that we live in a nation which is arguably the most
powerful, and certainly, the most prosperous on Earth in the 21st friggin'
century, yet our elected leader and many of our representatives sincerely
believe, that at some point an invisible dead jew from 2000 years ago is
going to appear floating in the sky to magic the people who believe he is
a god back into some fairy tale heavenly kingdom?
Yikes!
some people will never get it.
diana
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| User: "--sexkitten--" |
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04 Mar 2004 02:13:22 PM |
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diana lyster wrote:
"Acid King" <acid_inhailer@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<LMSdnd9q9t92x6HdRVn2gg@giganews.com>...
"meliva" blurted
: : Keep the faith meliva. President Bush has said, "Every child is a
priority
: : and a blessing, and I believe that all should be welcomed in life and
: : protected by law. Through ethical policies and the compassion of
Americans,
: : we will continue to build a culture that respects life."
: :
: : There is still hope.
:
: Yes. Thank you monotheist. Thank God we have a president who understands
the
: value of all life.
Do any of you realize that we live in a nation which is arguably the most
powerful, and certainly, the most prosperous on Earth in the 21st friggin'
century, yet our elected leader and many of our representatives sincerely
believe, that at some point an invisible dead jew from 2000 years ago is
going to appear floating in the sky to magic the people who believe he is
a god back into some fairy tale heavenly kingdom?
Yikes!
some people will never get it.
Some of us got it years ago. We're waiting for you to catch up.
diana
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25 Feb 2004 02:50:13 AM |
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Acid King wrote:
"meliva" blurted
: : Keep the faith meliva. President Bush has said, "Every child is a
priority
: : and a blessing, and I believe that all should be welcomed in life and
: : protected by law. Through ethical policies and the compassion of
: Americans,
: : we will continue to build a culture that respects life."
: :
: : There is still hope.
:
: Yes. Thank you monotheist. Thank God we have a president who understands
the
: value of all life.
Do any of you realize that we live in a nation which is arguably the most
powerful, and certainly, the most prosperous on Earth in the 21st friggin'
century, yet our elected leader and many of our representatives sincerely
believe, that at some point an invisible dead jew from 2000 years ago is
going to appear floating in the sky to magic the people who believe he is
a god back into some fairy tale heavenly kingdom?
Yikes!
Can I get an AMEN!!!!
Can I use this as a sig? It's brilliant.
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| User: "meliva" |
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25 Feb 2004 03:20:27 AM |
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"--sexkitten--" <ladyhawk_twonospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c1hnna$1iuqpe$4@ID-163025.news.uni-berlin.de...
Acid King wrote:
"meliva" blurted
: : Keep the faith meliva. President Bush has said, "Every child is a
priority
: : and a blessing, and I believe that all should be welcomed in life
and
: : protected by law. Through ethical policies and the compassion of
: Americans,
: : we will continue to build a culture that respects life."
: :
: : There is still hope.
:
: Yes. Thank you monotheist. Thank God we have a president who
understands
the
: value of all life.
Do any of you realize that we live in a nation which is arguably the
most
powerful, and certainly, the most prosperous on Earth in the 21st
friggin'
century, yet our elected leader and many of our representatives
sincerely
believe, that at some point an invisible dead jew from 2000 years ago is
going to appear floating in the sky to magic the people who believe he
is
a god back into some fairy tale heavenly kingdom?
Yikes!
Can I get an AMEN!!!!
Can I use this as a sig? It's brilliant.
As such, because you probably never read the bible, you bash god because it
doesn't fit your personal amoral decree.
Are all your friends transients, homosexuals, prostitutes and I dare say -
great danes, horses and gerbils?
Don't answer that. I do not wish to know.
b.b
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| User: "Callipygian Nullifidian" |
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25 Feb 2004 03:28:21 PM |
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"meliva" <mel432@yahoo.com> babbled incoherently
news:GdKdnT9ViPFB9aHd4p2dnA@giganews.com...
: As such, because you probably never read the bible, you bash god
because it
: doesn't fit your personal amoral decree.
Why is it that ignorant xians (who, by the way, even if they to read
it, fail to comprehend it) always assume that atheists haven't read
the xian bible?
: Are all your friends transients, homosexuals, prostitutes and I dare
say -
: great danes, horses and gerbils?
Why, do you have a thing for them?
: Don't answer that. I do not wish to know.
You wouldn't have asked, if you didn't mean to pry....
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| User: "Damn Dan" |
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25 Feb 2004 03:34:00 AM |
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"meliva" <mel432@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"--sexkitten--" <ladyhawk_twonospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c1hnna$1iuqpe$4@ID-163025.news.uni-berlin.de...
Acid King wrote:
Do any of you realize that we live in a nation which is arguably the
most
powerful, and certainly, the most prosperous on Earth in the 21st
friggin'
century, yet our elected leader and many of our representatives
sincerely
believe, that at some point an invisible dead jew from 2000 years ago
is
going to appear floating in the sky to magic the people who believe he
is
a god back into some fairy tale heavenly kingdom?
Yikes!
Can I get an AMEN!!!!
Can I use this as a sig? It's brilliant.
As such, because you probably never read the bible, you bash god because
it
doesn't fit your personal amoral decree.
Are all your friends transients, homosexuals, prostitutes and I dare say -
great danes, horses and gerbils?
Don't answer that. I do not wish to know.
b.b
Number one, don't assume someone has not read the bible. That's a bad
assumption to make here, as many people that visit these groups (why is this
crossposting to alt.games.video.nintendo.gamecube by the way?) have read it.
Number two, "bashing god" would imply we admit there exists a god to bash.
Don't assume that everyone reading this believes that. Number three, why do
you assume that anyone has an "amoral decree" or some kind of agenda along
those lines? That makes it sound like we're actively running around doing
immoral things. Believe it or not, people born and raised in a civilized
society tend to gain a sense of morality, irrespective of religious
influence. That's the wonderful thing of being a gregarious species: we
like to work together.
So, that's three bad assumptions in one sentence. That's making an ***** out
of U and Me times Three. Oo, I'm a poet.
-Dan
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| User: "meliva" |
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25 Feb 2004 04:10:18 AM |
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"Damn Dan" <rusttree@-KNOWSPAHM-.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"meliva" <mel432@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"--sexkitten--" <ladyhawk_twonospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c1hnna$1iuqpe$4@ID-163025.news.uni-berlin.de...
Acid King wrote:
Do any of you realize that we live in a nation which is arguably the
most
powerful, and certainly, the most prosperous on Earth in the 21st
friggin'
century, yet our elected leader and many of our representatives
sincerely
believe, that at some point an invisible dead jew from 2000 years
ago
is
going to appear floating in the sky to magic the people who believe
he
is
a god back into some fairy tale heavenly kingdom?
Yikes!
Can I get an AMEN!!!!
Can I use this as a sig? It's brilliant.
As such, because you probably never read the bible, you bash god because
it
doesn't fit your personal amoral decree.
Are all your friends transients, homosexuals, prostitutes and I dare
say -
great danes, horses and gerbils?
Don't answer that. I do not wish to know.
b.b
Number one, don't assume someone has not read the bible. That's a bad
assumption to make here, as many people that visit these groups (why is
this
crossposting to alt.games.video.nintendo.gamecube by the way?) have read
it.
Number two, "bashing god" would imply we admit there exists a god to bash.
Don't assume that everyone reading this believes that.
Well please excuse my irreverance. I am actually curious whether atheists
groups does more than simply defend itself against poorly constructed
apologies for Christianity. I've seen allot of infighting about a very
*real* unknown. For the kiddies, it must be beginning to feel a bit like
watching monkeys being teased at the zoo.
Number three, why do
you assume that anyone has an "amoral decree" or some kind of agenda along
those lines? That makes it sound like we're actively running around doing
immoral things.
Who are beneficiaries of the Court's protection? Members of various
minorities including criminals, atheists, homosexuals, flag burners, illegal
immigrants (including terrorists), convicts, prostitutes and pornographers.
Read NON-CHRISTIANS.
Believe it or not, people born and raised in a civilized
society tend to gain a sense of morality, irrespective of religious
influence. That's the wonderful thing of being a gregarious species: we
like to work together.
"No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should
they be considered as patriots. This is one nation under God." -- George
Bush
b.b
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| User: "Callipygian Nullifidian" |
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| Title: Re: What It Means to Be 'Pro Choice'. 'Lucifers Choice' |
25 Feb 2004 03:45:25 PM |
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"meliva" <mel432@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:h7ydnWluybMS6aHdRVn2iA@giganews.com...
: Who are beneficiaries of the Court's protection? Members of various
: minorities including criminals, atheists, homosexuals, flag burners,
illegal
: immigrants (including terrorists), convicts, prostitutes and
pornographers.
: Read NON-CHRISTIANS.
You _know_ you're full of *****. Of all the groups that you've lumped
together, the only one that contains no xians is.......atheists. And
far more criminals are xian than not.
I'm not surprised learn that you're a homophobe - you should be aware
of a recent study that shows that homophobes are generally aroused by
samesex images, etc. Obviously, the problem is that you're
uncomfortable with your own reactions.
In general, I think you'd be shocked at what percentage of the groups
(aside from atheists) you dislike are xians. ....your mother was a
hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries.
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| User: "jaime barrio" |
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| Title: Re: What It Means to Be 'Pro Choice'. 'Lucifers Choice' |
25 Feb 2004 05:49:26 AM |
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"meliva" <mel432@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:h7ydnWluybMS6aHdRVn2iA@giganews.com...
"Damn Dan" <rusttree@-KNOWSPAHM-.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c_Z_b.50305$um1.35917@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
"meliva" <mel432@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"--sexkitten--" <ladyhawk_twonospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c1hnna$1iuqpe$4@ID-163025.news.uni-berlin.de...
Acid King wrote:
Do any of you realize that we live in a nation which is arguably
the
most
powerful, and certainly, the most prosperous on Earth in the 21st
friggin'
century, yet our elected leader and many of our representatives
sincerely
believe, that at some point an invisible dead jew from 2000 years
ago
is
going to appear floating in the sky to magic the people who
believe
he
is
a god back into some fairy tale heavenly kingdom?
Yikes!
Can I get an AMEN!!!!
Can I use this as a sig? It's brilliant.
As such, because you probably never read the bible, you bash god
because
it
doesn't fit your personal amoral decree.
Are all your friends transients, homosexuals, prostitutes and I dare
say -
great danes, horses and gerbils?
Don't answer that. I do not wish to know.
b.b
Number one, don't assume someone has not read the bible. That's a bad
assumption to make here, as many people that visit these groups (why is
this
crossposting to alt.games.video.nintendo.gamecube by the way?) have read
it.
Number two, "bashing god" would imply we admit there exists a god to
bash.
Don't assume that everyone reading this believes that.
Well please excuse my irreverance. I am actually curious whether atheists
groups does more than simply defend itself against poorly constructed
apologies for Christianity. I've seen allot of infighting about a very
*real* unknown. For the kiddies, it must be beginning to feel a bit like
watching monkeys being teased at the zoo.
Number three, why do
you assume that anyone has an "amoral decree" or some kind of agenda
along
those lines? That makes it sound like we're actively running around
doing
immoral things.
Who are beneficiaries of the Court's protection? Members of various
minorities including criminals, atheists, homosexuals, flag burners,
illegal
immigrants (including terrorists), convicts, prostitutes and
pornographers.
Read NON-CHRISTIANS.
Believe it or not, people born and raised in a civilized
society tend to gain a sense of morality, irrespective of religious
influence. That's the wonderful thing of being a gregarious species: we
like to work together.
"No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor
should
they be considered as patriots. This is one nation under God." -- George
Bush
I had no idea true Christians were such bitter fucks. Interesting...
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| User: "Lawrence Seib" |
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| Title: Re: What It Means to Be 'Pro Choice'. 'Lucifers Choice' |
25 Feb 2004 02:19:16 PM |
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"jaime barrio" <justin@joe.monkey> wrote in message news:<aZ%_b.7$S9.3@nwrdny01.gnilink.net>...
"meliva" <mel432@yahoo.com> wrote in message
snipage
Who are beneficiaries of the Court's protection? Members
of various minorities including criminals, atheists,
homosexuals, flag burners, illegal
immigrants (including terrorists), convicts,
prostitutes and pornographers.
Read NON-CHRISTIANS.
Beleive it or not, some homosexuals and falg burnerers
call themselves Christain, too bad.
As for your assertion that Christians are more law abiding
than atheists, the following borrowed from an Harry Leopold
shows that the percentage of christians in jail is higher
than in the general population, which implies that they
either break the law more often than atheists, or get caught
more becasue they have less education.
The percentage of Texans who were Baptists in 1990 was 32%
The percentage of Texans who were Methodists in 1990 was 9.2%
The percentage of Texans who were members of Assemblies Of God
churches was
0.6% although the (Ramos, Mary G. (ed.). 1996-1997 Texas Almanac.
Dallas,
TX: Dallas Morning News (1995), pg. 325-327. [Source: Glenmary:
"Churches &
Church Membership in the U.S., 1990 "] puts the AOG of Texas total at
1.19%
The percentage of Texans who were Catholic was 23.2%
Various surveys list atheists as comprising anywhere from 5-18% of the
general population depending on how the question is phrased. Even if
we take
the low end of that scale, (The Christian pollsters, the Barna
Research
Group would take the high end or even a greater number according to
their
definition of god) the following stats are striking in that atheists
are
disproportionately underrepresented:
The percentage of Texans who were Baptists in 1990 was 32%
The percentage of Texans who were Methodists in 1990 was 9.2%
The percentage of Texans who were members of Assemblies Of God
churches was
0.6% although the (Ramos, Mary G. (ed.). 1996-1997 Texas Almanac.
Dallas,
TX: Dallas Morning News (1995), pg. 325-327. [Source: Glenmary:
"Churches &
Church Membership in the U.S., 1990 "] puts the AOG of Texas total at
1.19%
The percentage of Texans who were Catholic was 23.2%
Various surveys list atheists as comprising anywhere from 5-18% of the
general population depending on how the question is phrased. Even if
we take
the low end of that scale, (The Christian pollsters, the Barna
Research
Group would take the high end or even a greater number according to
their
definition of god) the following stats are striking in that atheists
are
disproportionately underrepresented:
According to the Texas Dept. of Corrections, on Jan. 31st of 2000:
The percentage of Texan prisoners who were Baptists was 26.589%
The percentage of Texan prisoners who were Methodist was .001%
The percentage of Texan prisoners who were Catholic was 11.73
The percentage of Texan prisoners who were Assemblies Of God members
was
17.173
The percentage of Texan prisoners who were Atheist or said they had no
religion on Jan 31 of 2000 was 1.249%
Interestingly, The Assemblies of God denomination seems to produce
more
criminals per capita than any other superstition in Texas.ls per
capita than any other superstition in Texas.
end Harry Leopold section
Larry
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| User: "Damn Dan" |
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| Title: Re: What It Means to Be 'Pro Choice'. 'Lucifers Choice' |
25 Feb 2004 04:39:16 AM |
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"meliva" <mel432@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:h7ydnWluybMS6aHdRVn2iA@giganews.com...
"Damn Dan" <rusttree@-KNOWSPAHM-.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c_Z_b.50305$um1.35917@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
"meliva" <mel432@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:GdKdnT9ViPFB9aHd4p2dnA@giganews.com...
"--sexkitten--" <ladyhawk_twonospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c1hnna$1iuqpe$4@ID-163025.news.uni-berlin.de...
Acid King wrote:
Do any of you realize that we live in a nation which is arguably
the
most
powerful, and certainly, the most prosperous on Earth in the 21st
friggin'
century, yet our elected leader and many of our representatives
sincerely
believe, that at some point an invisible dead jew from 2000 years
ago
is
going to appear floating in the sky to magic the people who
believe
he
is
a god back into some fairy tale heavenly kingdom?
Yikes!
Can I get an AMEN!!!!
Can I use this as a sig? It's brilliant.
As such, because you probably never read the bible, you bash god
because
it
doesn't fit your personal amoral decree.
Are all your friends transients, homosexuals, prostitutes and I dare
say -
great danes, horses and gerbils?
Don't answer that. I do not wish to know.
b.b
Number one, don't assume someone has not read the bible. That's a bad
assumption to make here, as many people that visit these groups (why is
this
crossposting to alt.games.video.nintendo.gamecube by the way?) have read
it.
Number two, "bashing god" would imply we admit there exists a god to
bash.
Don't assume that everyone reading this believes that.
Well please excuse my irreverance. I am actually curious whether atheists
groups does more than simply defend itself against poorly constructed
apologies for Christianity. I've seen allot of infighting about a very
*real* unknown. For the kiddies, it must be beginning to feel a bit like
watching monkeys being teased at the zoo.
If it seems like defending ourselves from theists is the only thing we do,
it's because we're constantly under attack by a select group of
fundamentalists that believe it is their "god given" duty to poke the
heathens with sticks until they give up and convert. But since the atheists
have shown no sign of converting and the theists no sign of putting down the
sticks, the trend will probably continue indefinitely.
Number three, why do
you assume that anyone has an "amoral decree" or some kind of agenda
along
those lines? That makes it sound like we're actively running around
doing
immoral things.
Who are beneficiaries of the Court's protection? Members of various
minorities including criminals, atheists, homosexuals, flag burners,
illegal
immigrants (including terrorists), convicts, prostitutes and
pornographers.
Read NON-CHRISTIANS.
Interesting attempt to group atheists, homosexuals, flag burners, and
pornographers (all actions governed by free speech and protected by US law)
with criminals, terrorists, and other illegal types. All nice and neatly
bundled in your self-defined, "non-christian" package. Man, I wish I could
think in such a naive, elementary manner. Life would be so much simplier.
But alas, I do not have the luxury of a religious veil to cover up all those
shades of gray that I don't want to deal with. I can't just say "be like me
or you'll burn in hell." Oh well.
Believe it or not, people born and raised in a civilized
society tend to gain a sense of morality, irrespective of religious
influence. That's the wonderful thing of being a gregarious species: we
like to work together.
"No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor
should
they be considered as patriots. This is one nation under God." -- George
Bush
b.b
Wow. Read the US constitution and you might find some interesting notes
about equality amoung citizens, regardless of religion (or lack thereof).
Just because the man who happens to be our president said something
controversial, that doesn't mean his point of veiw is conclusive. But, of
course, there's no convincing you of that since his point of view happens to
agree with yours.
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| User: "meliva" |
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| Title: Re: What It Means to Be 'Pro Choice'. 'Lucifers Choice' |
25 Feb 2004 05:00:03 AM |
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"Damn Dan" <rusttree@-KNOWSPAHM-.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:oX__b.50399$um1.152@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
Well please excuse my irreverance. I am actually curious whether
atheists
groups does more than simply defend itself against poorly constructed
apologies for Christianity. I've seen allot of infighting about a very
*real* unknown. For the kiddies, it must be beginning to feel a bit like
watching monkeys being teased at the zoo.
If it seems like defending ourselves from theists is the only thing we do,
it's because we're constantly under attack by a select group of
fundamentalists that believe it is their "god given" duty to poke the
heathens with sticks until they give up and convert. But since the
atheists
have shown no sign of converting and the theists no sign of putting down
the
sticks, the trend will probably continue indefinitely.
I wouldn't pay a moment's notice to any concept of "atheism", if there
weren't a bunch of flaming homosexual deluded anal-bangers spending a
hell of a lot of time trying to shove their rainbow colors into mainstreem
media as being 'corrrect'.
And the rest of it trying to legislate their liberal good ship lolipop
agendas into law.
Number three, why do
you assume that anyone has an "amoral decree" or some kind of agenda
along
those lines? That makes it sound like we're actively running around
doing
immoral things.
Who are beneficiaries of the Court's protection? Members of various
minorities including criminals, atheists, homosexuals, flag burners,
illegal
immigrants (including terrorists), convicts, prostitutes and
pornographers.
Read NON-CHRISTIANS.
Interesting attempt to group atheists, homosexuals, flag burners, and
pornographers (all actions governed by free speech and protected by US
law)
with criminals, terrorists, and other illegal types. All nice and neatly
bundled in your self-defined, "non-christian" package. Man, I wish I
could
think in such a naive, elementary manner. Life would be so much simplier.
But alas, I do not have the luxury of a religious veil to cover up all
those
shades of gray that I don't want to deal with. I can't just say "be like
me
or you'll burn in hell." Oh well.
Sometimes it is appropriate to bunch atheists in this manner. It explains
why atheists in general have amoral, criminalistic and heathenistic
philosophies and behaviors.
Believe it or not, people born and raised in a civilized
society tend to gain a sense of morality, irrespective of religious
influence. That's the wonderful thing of being a gregarious species:
we
like to work together.
"No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor
should
they be considered as patriots. This is one nation under God." -- George
Bush
b.b
Wow. Read the US constitution and you might find some interesting notes
about equality amoung citizens, regardless of religion (or lack thereof).
Just because the man who happens to be our president said something
controversial, that doesn't mean his point of veiw is conclusive. But, of
course, there's no convincing you of that since his point of view happens
to
agree with yours.
yawn. been hashed before.
b.b
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| User: "Damn Dan" |
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| Title: Re: What It Means to Be 'Pro Choice'. 'Lucifers Choice' |
25 Feb 2004 05:15:01 AM |
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"meliva" <mel432@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:bMidnbixKqGiHaHdRVn3tw@giganews.com...
"Damn Dan" <rusttree@-KNOWSPAHM-.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:oX__b.50399$um1.152@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
Well please excuse my irreverance. I am actually curious whether
atheists
groups does more than simply defend itself against poorly constructed
apologies for Christianity. I've seen allot of infighting about a very
*real* unknown. For the kiddies, it must be beginning to feel a bit
like
watching monkeys being teased at the zoo.
If it seems like defending ourselves from theists is the only thing we
do,
it's because we're constantly under attack by a select group of
fundamentalists that believe it is their "god given" duty to poke the
heathens with sticks until they give up and convert. But since the
atheists
have shown no sign of converting and the theists no sign of putting down
the
sticks, the trend will probably continue indefinitely.
I wouldn't pay a moment's notice to any concept of "atheism", if there
weren't a bunch of flaming homosexual deluded anal-bangers spending a
hell of a lot of time trying to shove their rainbow colors into mainstreem
media as being 'corrrect'.
And the rest of it trying to legislate their liberal good ship lolipop
agendas into law.
Number three, why do
you assume that anyone has an "amoral decree" or some kind of agenda
along
those lines? That makes it sound like we're actively running around
doing
immoral things.
Who are beneficiaries of the Court's protection? Members of various
minorities including criminals, atheists, homosexuals, flag burners,
illegal
immigrants (including terrorists), convicts, prostitutes and
pornographers.
Read NON-CHRISTIANS.
Interesting attempt to group atheists, homosexuals, flag burners, and
pornographers (all actions governed by free speech and protected by US
law)
with criminals, terrorists, and other illegal types. All nice and
neatly
bundled in your self-defined, "non-christian" package. Man, I wish I
could
think in such a naive, elementary manner. Life would be so much
simplier.
But alas, I do not have the luxury of a religious veil to cover up all
those
shades of gray that I don't want to deal with. I can't just say "be
like
me
or you'll burn in hell." Oh well.
Sometimes it is appropriate to bunch atheists in this manner. It explains
why atheists in general have amoral, criminalistic and heathenistic
philosophies and behaviors.
Believe it or not, people born and raised in a civilized
society tend to gain a sense of morality, irrespective of religious
influence. That's the wonderful thing of being a gregarious
species:
we
like to work together.
"No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor
should
they be considered as patriots. This is one nation under God." --
George
Bush
b.b
Wow. Read the US constitution and you might find some interesting notes
about equality amoung citizens, regardless of religion (or lack
thereof).
Just because the man who happens to be our president said something
controversial, that doesn't mean his point of veiw is conclusive. But,
of
course, there's no convincing you of that since his point of view
happens
to
agree with yours.
yawn. been hashed before.
b.b
Hmm... insults gays... insults atheists... uneducated overgeneralizations
with no supporting evidence. I honestly thought (foolishly) a mature debate
was possible with you. I see, though, you quickly resort to jeers and
taunts when confronted. You're in over your head here. Try some other
newsgroups that support your behavoir, such as alt.flames. Good night.
-Dan
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| User: "meliva" |
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| Title: Re: What It Means to Be 'Pro Choice'. 'Lucifers Choice' |
25 Feb 2004 05:16:36 AM |
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"Damn Dan" <rusttree@-KNOWSPAHM-.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Vs%_b.50404$um1.14768@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
"meliva" <mel432@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:bMidnbixKqGiHaHdRVn3tw@giganews.com...
"Damn Dan" <rusttree@-KNOWSPAHM-.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:oX__b.50399$um1.152@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
Well please excuse my irreverance. I am actually curious whether
atheists
groups does more than simply defend itself against poorly
constructed
apologies for Christianity. I've seen allot of infighting about a
very
*real* unknown. For the kiddies, it must be beginning to feel a bit
like
watching monkeys being teased at the zoo.
If it seems like defending ourselves from theists is the only thing we
do,
it's because we're constantly under attack by a select group of
fundamentalists that believe it is their "god given" duty to poke the
heathens with sticks until they give up and convert. But since the
atheists
have shown no sign of converting and the theists no sign of putting
down
the
sticks, the trend will probably continue indefinitely.
I wouldn't pay a moment's notice to any concept of "atheism", if there
weren't a bunch of flaming homosexual deluded anal-bangers spending a
hell of a lot of time trying to shove their rainbow colors into
mainstreem
media as being 'corrrect'.
And the rest of it trying to legislate their liberal good ship lolipop
agendas into law.
Number three, why do
you assume that anyone has an "amoral decree" or some kind of
agenda
along
those lines? That makes it sound like we're actively running
around
doing
immoral things.
Who are beneficiaries of the Court's protection? Members of various
minorities including criminals, atheists, homosexuals, flag burners,
illegal
immigrants (including terrorists), convicts, prostitutes and
pornographers.
Read NON-CHRISTIANS.
Interesting attempt to group atheists, homosexuals, flag burners, and
pornographers (all actions governed by free speech and protected by US
law)
with criminals, terrorists, and other illegal types. All nice and
neatly
bundled in your self-defined, "non-christian" package. Man, I wish I
could
think in such a naive, elementary manner. Life would be so much
simplier.
But alas, I do not have the luxury of a religious veil to cover up all
those
shades of gray that I don't want to deal with. I can't just say "be
like
me
or you'll burn in hell." Oh well.
Sometimes it is appropriate to bunch atheists in this manner. It
explains
why atheists in general have amoral, criminalistic and heathenistic
philosophies and behaviors.
Believe it or not, people born and raised in a civilized
society tend to gain a sense of morality, irrespective of
religious
influence. That's the wonderful thing of being a gregarious
species:
we
like to work together.
"No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens,
nor
should
they be considered as patriots. This is one nation under God." --
George
Bush
b.b
Wow. Read the US constitution and you might find some interesting
notes
about equality amoung citizens, regardless of religion (or lack
thereof).
Just because the man who happens to be our president said something
controversial, that doesn't mean his point of veiw is conclusive.
But,
of
course, there's no convincing you of that since his point of view
happens
to
agree with yours.
yawn. been hashed before.
b.b
Hmm... insults gays... insults atheists... uneducated overgeneralizations
with no supporting evidence. I honestly thought (foolishly) a mature
debate
was possible with you. I see, though, you quickly resort to jeers and
taunts when confronted. You're in over your head here. Try some other
newsgroups that support your behavoir, such as alt.flames. Good night.
If you like.
b.b
-Dan
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| User: "--sexkitten--" |
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| Title: Re: What It Means to Be 'Pro Choice'. 'Lucifers Choice' |
25 Feb 2004 06:25:36 AM |
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Damn Dan wrote:
"meliva" <mel432@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:bMidnbixKqGiHaHdRVn3tw@giganews.com...
"Damn Dan" <rusttree@-KNOWSPAHM-.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:oX__b.50399$um1.152@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
Well please excuse my irreverance. I am actually curious whether
atheists
groups does more than simply defend itself against poorly constructed
apologies for Christianity. I've seen allot of infighting about a very
*real* unknown. For the kiddies, it must be beginning to feel a bit
like
watching monkeys being teased at the zoo.
If it seems like defending ourselves from theists is the only thing we
do,
it's because we're constantly under attack by a select group of
fundamentalists that believe it is their "god given" duty to poke the
heathens with sticks until they give up and convert. But since the
atheists
have shown no sign of converting and the theists no sign of putting down
the
sticks, the trend will probably continue indefinitely.
I wouldn't pay a moment's notice to any concept of "atheism", if there
weren't a bunch of flaming homosexual deluded anal-bangers spending a
hell of a lot of time trying to shove their rainbow colors into mainstreem
media as being 'corrrect'.
And the rest of it trying to legislate their liberal good ship lolipop
agendas into law.
Number three, why do
you assume that anyone has an "amoral decree" or some kind of agenda
along
those lines? That makes it sound like we're actively running around
doing
immoral things.
Who are beneficiaries of the Court's protection? Members of various
minorities including criminals, atheists, homosexuals, flag burners,
illegal
immigrants (including terrorists), convicts, prostitutes and
pornographers.
Read NON-CHRISTIANS.
Interesting attempt to group atheists, homosexuals, flag burners, and
pornographers (all actions governed by free speech and protected by US
law)
with criminals, terrorists, and other illegal types. All nice and
neatly
bundled in your self-defined, "non-christian" package. Man, I wish I
could
think in such a naive, elementary manner. Life would be so much
simplier.
But alas, I do not have the luxury of a religious veil to cover up all
those
shades of gray that I don't want to deal with. I can't just say "be
like
me
or you'll burn in hell." Oh well.
Sometimes it is appropriate to bunch atheists in this manner. It explains
why atheists in general have amoral, criminalistic and heathenistic
philosophies and behaviors.
Believe it or not, people born and raised in a civilized
society tend to gain a sense of morality, irrespective of religious
influence. That's the wonderful thing of being a gregarious
species:
we
like to work together.
"No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor
should
they be considered as patriots. This is one nation under God." --
George
Bush
b.b
Wow. Read the US constitution and you might find some interesting notes
about equality amoung citizens, regardless of religion (or lack
thereof).
Just because the man who happens to be our president said something
controversial, that doesn't mean his point of veiw is conclusive. But,
of
course, there's no convincing you of that since his point of view
happens
to
agree with yours.
yawn. been hashed before.
b.b
Hmm... insults gays... insults atheists... uneducated overgeneralizations
with no supporting evidence. I honestly thought (foolishly) a mature debate
was possible with you. I see, though, you quickly resort to jeers and
taunts when confronted. You're in over your head here. Try some other
newsgroups that support your behavoir, such as alt.flames. Good night.
Hell, she posted to herself agreeing with herself. I think she's the
alt.flames moderator.
-Dan
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| User: "Attila" |
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| Title: Re: What It Means to Be 'Pro Choice'. 'Lucifers Choice' |
25 Feb 2004 09:39:58 AM |
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On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 06:00:03 -0500, "meliva" <mel432@yahoo.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id <bMidnbixKqGiHaHdRVn3tw@giganews.com>
wrote:
Sometimes it is appropriate to bunch atheists in this manner. It explains
why atheists in general have amoral, criminalistic and heathenistic
philosophies and behaviors.
I find your comments in this thread fascinating. Now you are lumping
judgmental categories (amoral), legal categories (criminalistic) and
religious categories (heathenistic) all together in a desperate and
somewhat pathetic attempt to create guilt by association.
I am constantly amazed how, with examples like this, any reasonably
intelligent and sane adult would do anything but run screaming from
the slightest smell of religion.
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25 Feb 2004 06:24:35 AM |
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meliva wrote:
"Damn Dan" <rusttree@-KNOWSPAHM-.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:oX__b.50399$um1.152@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
Well please excuse my irreverance. I am actually curious whether
atheists
groups does more than simply defend itself against poorly constructed
apologies for Christianity. I've seen allot of infighting about a very
*real* unknown. For the kiddies, it must be beginning to feel a bit like
watching monkeys being teased at the zoo.
If it seems like defending ourselves from theists is the only thing we do,
it's because we're constantly under attack by a select group of
fundamentalists that believe it is their "god given" duty to poke the
heathens with sticks until they give up and convert. But since the
atheists
have shown no sign of converting and the theists no sign of putting down
the
sticks, the trend will probably continue indefinitely.
I wouldn't pay a moment's notice to any concept of "atheism", if there
weren't a bunch of flaming homosexual deluded anal-bangers spending a
hell of a lot of time trying to shove their rainbow colors into mainstreem
media as being 'corrrect'.
And the rest of it trying to legislate their liberal good ship lolipop
agendas into law.
Number three, why do
you assume that anyone has an "amoral decree" or some kind of agenda
along
those lines? That makes it sound like we're actively running around
doing
immoral things.
Who are beneficiaries of the Court's protection? Members of various
minorities including criminals, atheists, homosexuals, flag burners,
illegal
immigrants (including terrorists), convicts, prostitutes and
pornographers.
Read NON-CHRISTIANS.
Interesting attempt to group atheists, homosexuals, flag burners, and
pornographers (all actions governed by free speech and protected by US
law)
with criminals, terrorists, and other illegal types. All nice and neatly
bundled in your self-defined, "non-christian" package. Man, I wish I
could
think in such a naive, elementary manner. Life would be so much simplier.
But alas, I do not have the luxury of a religious veil to cover up all
those
shades of gray that I don't want to deal with. I can't just say "be like
me
or you'll burn in hell." Oh well.
Sometimes it is appropriate to bunch atheists in this manner. It explains
why atheists in general have amoral, criminalistic and heathenistic
philosophies and behaviors.
Two words for ya: Catholic Priests.
Believe it or not, people born and raised in a civilized
society tend to gain a sense of morality, irrespective of religious
influence. That's the wonderful thing of being a gregarious species:
we
like to work together.
"No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor
should
they be considered as patriots. This is one nation under God." -- George
Bush
b.b
Wow. Read the US constitution and you might find some interesting notes
about equality amoung citizens, regardless of religion (or lack thereof).
Just because the man who happens to be our president said something
controversial, that doesn't mean his point of veiw is conclusive. But, of
course, there's no convincing you of that since his point of view happens
to
agree with yours.
yawn. been hashed before.
Yeah, that damn Constitution, always getting in the way of a good bigot.
b.b
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| Title: Re: What It Means to Be 'Pro Choice'. 'Lucifers Choice' |
25 Feb 2004 08:45:28 AM |
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In article <h7ydnWluybMS6aHdRVn2iA@giganews.com>, meliva says...
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"No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should
they be considered as patriots. This is one nation under God." -- George
Bush
Tell me - Did it take a lot of practice to be such a freakin' ***** or are you
just a natural?
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
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| User: "Attila" |
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25 Feb 2004 09:32:43 AM |
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On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 05:10:18 -0500, "meliva" <mel432@yahoo.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id <h7ydnWluybMS6aHdRVn2iA@giganews.com>
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Who are beneficiaries of the Court's protection? Members of various
minorities including criminals, atheists, homosexuals, flag burners, illegal
immigrants (including terrorists), convicts, prostitutes and pornographers.
Read NON-CHRISTIANS.
That must be one of the funniest things I have read in quite some
time. Do you actually believe none of your christians fit any of
those categories?
"No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should
they be considered as patriots. This is one nation under God." -- George
Bush
Which goes a long way toward proving he is an idiot.
And I am a conservative Republican.
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25 Feb 2004 02:50:45 PM |
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"meliva" <mel432@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<h7ydnWluybMS6aHdRVn2iA@giganews.com>...
Who are beneficiaries of the Court's protection? Members of various
minorities including criminals, atheists, homosexuals, flag burners, illegal
immigrants (including terrorists), convicts, prostitutes and pornographers.
Read NON-CHRISTIANS.
"Who are beneficiaries of the Court's protection?"
Please explain to me why all anti-discrimination laws protect people
because of their religious beliefs. If anyone is privileged in
America it is the religious who use their special status under the law
to discriminate against those who opposse them.
"No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should
they be considered as patriots. This is one nation under God." -- George
Bush
b.b
This establishs a theocracy, down with the republic.
So why do the religious, especially the Evangelical Taliban, need
civil laws to keep them moral? Can't they live decent lives without
cops enforcing the religious doctrines of the various sects?
JohnN
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