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Topic: Science > Abortion
User: "J Young"
Date: 05 Apr 2007 10:54:25 PM
Object: When life begins
Life begins at the moment of conception; to destroy that life anytime
after is to kill it. Whether it is classified as a crime depends upon
the laws at that given time. To one who is "pro-life", abortion is
always murder.
.

User: "The Chief Instigator"

Title: Re: When life begins 05 Apr 2007 11:17:32 PM
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:

Life begins at the moment of conception; to destroy that life anytime
after is to kill it. Whether it is classified as a crime depends upon
the laws at that given time. To one who is "pro-life", abortion is
always murder.

In that case, your alleged god dwarfs all the abortionists of history
combined, since up to 70% of fertilized eggs don't attach to the uterine wall
and are swept out at the next menses.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Peoria 8, Houston 2 (April 3)
NEXT GAME: Friday, April 6 at Peoria, 7:35
.
User: "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!"

Title: Re: When life begins 06 Apr 2007 12:57:13 AM
"The Chief Instigator" <patrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:

Life begins at the moment of conception; to destroy that life anytime
after is to kill it. Whether it is classified as a crime depends upon
the laws at that given time. To one who is "pro-life", abortion is
always murder.


In that case, your

Feed that troll.
.

User: "J Young"

Title: Re: When life begins 05 Apr 2007 11:20:31 PM
On Apr 6, 12:17=EF=BF=BDam, The Chief Instigator <patr...@eris.io.com> wrot=
e:

"J Young" <youngopini...@aol.com> writes:

Life begins at the moment of conception; to destroy that life anytime
after is to kill it. Whether it is classified as a crime depends upon
the laws at that given time. To one who is "pro-life", abortion is
always murder.


In that case, your alleged god dwarfs all the abortionists of history
combined, since up to 70% of fertilized eggs don't attach to the uterine =

wall

and are swept out at the next menses.

--
=A0 =A0Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patr...@io.com) =A0Housto=

n, Texas =A0

=A0 =A0 chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php =A0(TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros) =

AA#2273

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0LAST GAME: Peoria 8, Houston 2 (Ap=

ril 3)

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 NEXT GAME: Friday, April 6 at Peoria,=

7:35
What is done intentionally and what happens naturally are two
different stories.
.
User: "The Chief Instigator"

Title: Re: When life begins 05 Apr 2007 11:35:57 PM
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:

On Apr 6, 12:17�am, The Chief Instigator <patr...@eris.io.com> wrote:

"J Young" <youngopini...@aol.com> writes:

Life begins at the moment of conception; to destroy that life anytime
after is to kill it. Whether it is classified as a crime depends upon
the laws at that given time. To one who is "pro-life", abortion is
always murder.

In that case, your alleged god dwarfs all the abortionists of history
combined, since up to 70% of fertilized eggs don't attach to the uterine
wall and are swept out at the next menses.

What is done intentionally and what happens naturally are two
different stories.

Of course...your alleged deity can't do anything wrong by definition. (I'm
one of the heathens that will return fire if your philosophical comrades try
forcing any religion on me or mine, for starters.)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Peoria 8, Houston 2 (April 3)
NEXT GAME: Friday, April 6 at Peoria, 7:35
.

User: "Denis Loubet"

Title: Re: When life begins 06 Apr 2007 12:04:52 AM
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1175833231.171967.91050@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 6, 12:17?am, The Chief Instigator <patr...@eris.io.com> wrote:

"J Young" <youngopini...@aol.com> writes:

Life begins at the moment of conception; to destroy that life anytime
after is to kill it. Whether it is classified as a crime depends upon
the laws at that given time. To one who is "pro-life", abortion is
always murder.


In that case, your alleged god dwarfs all the abortionists of history
combined, since up to 70% of fertilized eggs don't attach to the uterine
wall
and are swept out at the next menses.

--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patr...@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Peoria 8, Houston 2 (April 3)
NEXT GAME: Friday, April 6 at Peoria, 7:35

What is done intentionally and what happens naturally are two
different stories.
Naturally? What's that? In a god-created universe, everything is artificial.
Thus god designed human females to slaughter legions of zygot-people.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
.
User: "CafeWriter"

Title: Re: When life begins 06 Apr 2007 03:37:24 PM
"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
news:tpCdnU40NZ11SYjbnZ2dnUVZ_qGjnZ2d@io.com...


"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1175833231.171967.91050@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 6, 12:17?am, The Chief Instigator <patr...@eris.io.com> wrote:

"J Young" <youngopini...@aol.com> writes:

Life begins at the moment of conception; to destroy that life anytime
after is to kill it. Whether it is classified as a crime depends upon
the laws at that given time. To one who is "pro-life", abortion is
always murder.


In that case, your alleged god dwarfs all the abortionists of history
combined, since up to 70% of fertilized eggs don't attach to the uterine
wall
and are swept out at the next menses.

--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patr...@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Peoria 8, Houston 2 (April 3)
NEXT GAME: Friday, April 6 at Peoria, 7:35





What is done intentionally and what happens naturally are two
different stories.

Naturally? What's that? In a god-created universe, everything is
artificial.

Thus god designed human females to slaughter legions of zygot-people.

--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com


You are really confusing me. What the heck is zygot people?!
.
User: "Denis Loubet"

Title: Re: When life begins 06 Apr 2007 04:15:10 PM
"CafeWriter" <cafewriter@shawRemoveThis.ca> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1175833231.171967.91050@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 6, 12:17?am, The Chief Instigator <patr...@eris.io.com> wrote:

"J Young" <youngopini...@aol.com> writes:

Life begins at the moment of conception; to destroy that life anytime
after is to kill it. Whether it is classified as a crime depends upon
the laws at that given time. To one who is "pro-life", abortion is
always murder.


In that case, your alleged god dwarfs all the abortionists of history
combined, since up to 70% of fertilized eggs don't attach to the uterine
wall
and are swept out at the next menses.

--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patr...@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Peoria 8, Houston 2 (April 3)
NEXT GAME: Friday, April 6 at Peoria, 7:35





What is done intentionally and what happens naturally are two
different stories.

Naturally? What's that? In a god-created universe, everything is
artificial.

Thus god designed human females to slaughter legions of zygot-people.

--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com



You are really confusing me. What the heck is zygot people?!

Well, if a person is created at the moment of conception, then clearly the
resulting zygot must, at the same time, be a person. A zygot-person, if you
will. I don't see what's confusing about that, the context of this
discussion should have provided the necessary information.
The only confusing thing is my newsreader's inability to add the little ">"
to JYoung's material. Thus "Naturally? What's that? In a god-created
universe, everything is artificial." is MY response to JYoung's boneheaded
"What is done intentionally and what happens naturally are two different
stories." comment.
I apologise for the confusion.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http//www.io.com/~dloubet
.
User: "CafeWriter"

Title: Re: When life begins 06 Apr 2007 10:10:31 PM
"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
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"CafeWriter" <cafewriter@shawRemoveThis.ca> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1175833231.171967.91050@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 6, 12:17?am, The Chief Instigator <patr...@eris.io.com> wrote:

"J Young" <youngopini...@aol.com> writes:

Life begins at the moment of conception; to destroy that life anytime
after is to kill it. Whether it is classified as a crime depends upon
the laws at that given time. To one who is "pro-life", abortion is
always murder.


In that case, your alleged god dwarfs all the abortionists of history
combined, since up to 70% of fertilized eggs don't attach to the
uterine wall
and are swept out at the next menses.

--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patr...@io.com) Houston,
Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Peoria 8, Houston 2 (April 3)
NEXT GAME: Friday, April 6 at Peoria, 7:35





What is done intentionally and what happens naturally are two
different stories.

Naturally? What's that? In a god-created universe, everything is
artificial.

Thus god designed human females to slaughter legions of zygot-people.

--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com



You are really confusing me. What the heck is zygot people?!


Well, if a person is created at the moment of conception, then clearly the
resulting zygot must, at the same time, be a person. A zygot-person, if
you will. I don't see what's confusing about that, the context of this
discussion should have provided the necessary information.

The only confusing thing is my newsreader's inability to add the little
">" to JYoung's material. Thus "Naturally? What's that? In a god-created
universe, everything is artificial." is MY response to JYoung's boneheaded
"What is done intentionally and what happens naturally are two different
stories." comment.

I apologise for the confusion.


--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http//www.io.com/~dloubet




*Groan* Trying to explain something to a pro-liar is like talking to the
wall. They don't give a damn about women unless they are pregnant then they
will fight tooth and nail to protect the fetuses but not the women. They
wouldn't give a damn if a woman dies in childbirth, all they care is that a
child lives and then they turn their backs on the child.
That makes me very ashamed of pro-liars because they have half the common
sense as it would take for an average person with a heart who is not a
pro-liar but not a pro-choicer either. All you need is a heart to
understand that not every woman can be successful with pregnancies, abortion
or no abortion.
So before you jump on the "pity the fetus" bandwagon, you should start
thinking about what happens after the childbirth and if the mother dies
during the childbirth because a child without a mother is a very lonely
child even with a foster mother or with a woman who adopted the child. A
real mother is better and of course, pro-liars do not care a damn about the
rights of both the women and the fetuses. They only care about the fetuses
and after the childbirth, it's pretty much like, "welcome to the world,
child, enjoy and goodbye".
Pro-liars have no hearts at all. If they do, they would compare every
situation because not all pregnancies are safe.
*Sigh*
With your attitude going, "the mother should die, a child should live"...
with this, it would be a tragic event when most of the children being born
are either being given up or have lost their mothers in the childbirth.
Sorry, kiddos, but the medical care have not changed that much since the
1800's when many women during that time died while giving birth.
.
User: "J Young"

Title: Re: When life begins 07 Apr 2007 08:17:15 PM
On Apr 6, 11:10=EF=BF=BDpm, "CafeWriter" <cafewri...@shawRemoveThis.ca> wro=
te:


*Groan* =A0Trying to explain something to a pro-liar is like talking to t=

he

wall. =A0They don't give a damn about women unless they are pregnant then=

they

will fight tooth and nail to protect the fetuses but not the women. =A0Th=

ey

wouldn't give a damn if a woman dies in childbirth, all they care is that=

a

child lives and then they turn their backs on the child.

That makes me very ashamed of pro-liars because they have half the common
sense as it would take for an average person with a heart who is not a
pro-liar but not a pro-choicer either. =A0All you need is a heart to
understand that not every woman can be successful with pregnancies, abort=

ion

or no abortion.

So before you jump on the "pity the fetus" bandwagon, you should start
thinking about what happens after the childbirth and if the mother dies
during the childbirth because a child without a mother is a very lonely
child even with a foster mother or with a woman who adopted the child. =

=A0A

real mother is better and of course, pro-liars do not care a damn about t=

he

rights of both the women and the fetuses. =A0They only care about the fet=

uses

and after the childbirth, it's pretty much like, "welcome to the world,
child, enjoy and goodbye".

Pro-liars have no hearts at all. =A0If they do, they would compare every
situation because not all pregnancies are safe.

*Sigh*

With your attitude going, "the mother should die, a child should live"...
with this, it would be a tragic event when most of the children being born
are either being given up or have lost their mothers in the childbirth.

Sorry, kiddos, but the medical care have not changed that much since the
1800's when many women during that time died while giving birth

So your solution to all this is kill the baby?
.
User: "CafeWriter"

Title: Re: When life begins 07 Apr 2007 09:25:53 PM
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1175995035.537006.122280@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 6, 11:10?pm, "CafeWriter" <cafewri...@shawRemoveThis.ca> wrote:


*Groan* Trying to explain something to a pro-liar is like talking to the
wall. They don't give a damn about women unless they are pregnant then
they
will fight tooth and nail to protect the fetuses but not the women. They
wouldn't give a damn if a woman dies in childbirth, all they care is that
a
child lives and then they turn their backs on the child.

That makes me very ashamed of pro-liars because they have half the common
sense as it would take for an average person with a heart who is not a
pro-liar but not a pro-choicer either. All you need is a heart to
understand that not every woman can be successful with pregnancies,
abortion
or no abortion.

So before you jump on the "pity the fetus" bandwagon, you should start
thinking about what happens after the childbirth and if the mother dies
during the childbirth because a child without a mother is a very lonely
child even with a foster mother or with a woman who adopted the child. A
real mother is better and of course, pro-liars do not care a damn about
the
rights of both the women and the fetuses. They only care about the fetuses
and after the childbirth, it's pretty much like, "welcome to the world,
child, enjoy and goodbye".

Pro-liars have no hearts at all. If they do, they would compare every
situation because not all pregnancies are safe.

*Sigh*

With your attitude going, "the mother should die, a child should live"...
with this, it would be a tragic event when most of the children being born
are either being given up or have lost their mothers in the childbirth.

Sorry, kiddos, but the medical care have not changed that much since the
1800's when many women during that time died while giving birth

So your solution to all this is kill the baby?
Baby? What baby? Are you suggesting that women should be forced to carry
babies to term for nothing?
I got into arguments like this so many times and I would gladly go into
surgery to have my entire womb and all removed to prevent unwanted
pregnancies.
What the hell gives you the whole stupid idea that women are baby machines?
I will do anything not to get pregnant or have a child.
.
User: "J Young"

Title: Re: When life begins 07 Apr 2007 09:42:44 PM
On Apr 7, 10:25?pm, "CafeWriter" <cafewri...@shawRemoveThis.ca> wrote:


What the hell gives you the whole stupid idea that women are baby machines?
I will do anything not to get pregnant or have a child

The solution to that problem is quite simple; Just say No.
.
User: "CafeWriter"

Title: Re: When life begins 08 Apr 2007 12:01:36 AM
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1176000164.666835.218120@w1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...

On Apr 7, 10:25?pm, "CafeWriter" <cafewri...@shawRemoveThis.ca> wrote:


What the hell gives you the whole stupid idea that women are baby
machines?
I will do anything not to get pregnant or have a child




The solution to that problem is quite simple; Just say No.

Done! Why do you think I've given up dating for the rest of my life? Oh
happy, happy joy, joy, for that I am freed of any man's attempts to control
me! Happy, happy, happy time!!!
.

User: "DanielSan"

Title: Re: When life begins 07 Apr 2007 10:45:30 PM
J Young wrote:

On Apr 7, 10:25?pm, "CafeWriter" <cafewri...@shawRemoveThis.ca> wrote:

What the hell gives you the whole stupid idea that women are baby machines?
I will do anything not to get pregnant or have a child





The solution to that problem is quite simple; Just say No.

Same goes for the man. If the man were considerate, he would "keep it
in his pants", as it were.
--
******************************************************
* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
*----------------------------------------------------*
* The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of *
* reason: The Morning Daylight appears plainer *
* when you put out your Candle." --Benjamin Franklin *
* Poor Richard's Almanack (1758) *
******************************************************
.
User: "CafeWriter"

Title: Re: When life begins 08 Apr 2007 12:02:52 AM
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:D-mdnRPNf8GqyoXbnZ2dnUVZ_hqdnZ2d@comcast.com...

J Young wrote:

On Apr 7, 10:25?pm, "CafeWriter" <cafewri...@shawRemoveThis.ca> wrote:

What the hell gives you the whole stupid idea that women are baby
machines?
I will do anything not to get pregnant or have a child





The solution to that problem is quite simple; Just say No.


Same goes for the man. If the man were considerate, he would "keep it in
his pants", as it were.


--
******************************************************
* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
*----------------------------------------------------*
* The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of *
* reason: The Morning Daylight appears plainer *
* when you put out your Candle." --Benjamin Franklin *
* Poor Richard's Almanack (1758) *
******************************************************

Or that man can give up dating for the rest of his life with no worries
about possible children and possible child support. Happy, happy, happy
times for him!!!
.
User: "DanielSan"

Title: Re: When life begins 08 Apr 2007 01:45:41 AM
CafeWriter wrote:

"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:D-mdnRPNf8GqyoXbnZ2dnUVZ_hqdnZ2d@comcast.com...

J Young wrote:

On Apr 7, 10:25?pm, "CafeWriter" <cafewri...@shawRemoveThis.ca> wrote:


What the hell gives you the whole stupid idea that women are baby
machines?
I will do anything not to get pregnant or have a child





The solution to that problem is quite simple; Just say No.


Same goes for the man. If the man were considerate, he would "keep it in
his pants", as it were.


--
******************************************************
* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
*----------------------------------------------------*
* The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of *
* reason: The Morning Daylight appears plainer *
* when you put out your Candle." --Benjamin Franklin *
* Poor Richard's Almanack (1758) *
******************************************************



Or that man can give up dating for the rest of his life with no worries
about possible children and possible child support. Happy, happy, happy
times for him!!!


Well, it's apparent that there are many that want women to give up
dating for the rest of their lives. Happy, happy, happy times for her.
--
******************************************************
* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
*----------------------------------------------------*
* "In every country and every age, the priest had *
* been hostile to Liberty." --Thomas Jefferson *
******************************************************
.
User: "CafeWriter"

Title: Re: When life begins 08 Apr 2007 05:20:29 PM
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
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CafeWriter wrote:

"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:D-mdnRPNf8GqyoXbnZ2dnUVZ_hqdnZ2d@comcast.com...

J Young wrote:

On Apr 7, 10:25?pm, "CafeWriter" <cafewri...@shawRemoveThis.ca> wrote:


What the hell gives you the whole stupid idea that women are baby
machines?
I will do anything not to get pregnant or have a child





The solution to that problem is quite simple; Just say No.


Same goes for the man. If the man were considerate, he would "keep it in
his pants", as it were.


--
******************************************************
* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
*----------------------------------------------------*
* The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of *
* reason: The Morning Daylight appears plainer *
* when you put out your Candle." --Benjamin Franklin *
* Poor Richard's Almanack (1758) *
******************************************************



Or that man can give up dating for the rest of his life with no worries
about possible children and possible child support. Happy, happy, happy
times for him!!!


Well, it's apparent that there are many that want women to give up dating
for the rest of their lives. Happy, happy, happy times for her.

--
******************************************************
* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
*----------------------------------------------------*
* "In every country and every age, the priest had *
* been hostile to Liberty." --Thomas Jefferson *
******************************************************

Yet... another reason not to listen to these men...
.



User: "CafeWriter"

Title: Re: When life begins 08 Apr 2007 12:02:00 AM
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:D-mdnRPNf8GqyoXbnZ2dnUVZ_hqdnZ2d@comcast.com...

J Young wrote:

On Apr 7, 10:25?pm, "CafeWriter" <cafewri...@shawRemoveThis.ca> wrote:

What the hell gives you the whole stupid idea that women are baby
machines?
I will do anything not to get pregnant or have a child





The solution to that problem is quite simple; Just say No.


Same goes for the man. If the man were considerate, he would "keep it in
his pants", as it were.


--
******************************************************
* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
*----------------------------------------------------*
* The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of *
* reason: The Morning Daylight appears plainer *
* when you put out your Candle." --Benjamin Franklin *
* Poor Richard's Almanack (1758) *
******************************************************

That's true.
.


User: "Parsifal"

Title: Re: When life begins 08 Apr 2007 01:51:10 AM
On 8 Apr., 04:42, "J Young" <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:

On Apr 7, 10:25?pm, "CafeWriter" <cafewri...@shawRemoveThis.ca> wrote:



What the hell gives you the whole stupid idea that women are baby machines?
I will do anything not to get pregnant or have a child


The solution to that problem is quite simple; Just say No.

When's the last time you had any, J Young?
No, let me rephrase that: have you ever had any, J Young?
.


User: "CE"

Title: Re: When life begins 10 Apr 2007 06:23:42 PM
On Apr 7, 11:25 pm, "CafeWriter" <cafewri...@shawRemoveThis.ca> wrote:

What the hell gives you the whole stupid idea that women are baby machines?
I will do anything not to get pregnant or have a child.

Will you abstain from having sex? Because, really, that's all you have
to do.
.
User: "CafeWriter"

Title: Re: When life begins 10 Apr 2007 08:49:06 PM
"CE" <jlrisdon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1176247422.039168.210510@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...

On Apr 7, 11:25 pm, "CafeWriter" <cafewri...@shawRemoveThis.ca> wrote:

What the hell gives you the whole stupid idea that women are baby
machines?
I will do anything not to get pregnant or have a child.


Will you abstain from having sex? Because, really, that's all you have
to do.

That's a really good question... Let me think.... No boyfriends.... No
sex..... equals no babies....
Do you understand that now?
No boyfriends + no sex = no unwanted babies
Victory for the CafeWriter WOOHOO!!!
.
User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: When life begins 11 Apr 2007 08:51:12 AM
"CafeWriter" <cafewriter@shawRemoveThis.ca> wrote in message
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"CE" <jlrisdon@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Apr 7, 11:25 pm, "CafeWriter" <cafewri...@shawRemoveThis.ca> wrote:

What the hell gives you the whole stupid idea that women are baby
machines?
I will do anything not to get pregnant or have a child.


Will you abstain from having sex? Because, really, that's all you have
to do.


That's a really good question... Let me think.... No boyfriends.... No
sex..... equals no babies....

Do you understand that now?

No boyfriends + no sex = no unwanted babies

Victory for the CafeWriter WOOHOO!!!

Well, goody for you, but not many people want to be celebate.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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User: "Dubh Ghall"

Title: Re: When life begins 12 Apr 2007 10:06:16 AM
On 10 Apr 2007 16:23:42 -0700, "CE" <jlrisdon@gmail.com> wrote:

On Apr 7, 11:25 pm, "CafeWriter" <cafewri...@shawRemoveThis.ca> wrote:

What the hell gives you the whole stupid idea that women are baby machines?
I will do anything not to get pregnant or have a child.


Will you abstain from having sex?

What difference would that make?
The sperm would still die, and the ova would still die; What
difference does it make that they are not joined?
--
The spelling Like any opinion stated here
purely my own
#162 BAAWA Knight.

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User: "Pinch"

Title: Re: When life begins 11 Apr 2007 04:26:51 AM
On Apr 10, 7:23 pm, "CE" <jlris...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Apr 7, 11:25 pm, "CafeWriter" <cafewri...@shawRemoveThis.ca> wrote:

What the hell gives you the whole stupid idea that women are baby machines?
I will do anything not to get pregnant or have a child.


Will you abstain from having sex? Because, really, that's all you have
to do.

That's none of your business. So mind your own; because,
really...that's all you have to do.
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User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: When life begins 07 Apr 2007 10:18:09 PM
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:

On Apr 6, 11:10�pm, "CafeWriter" <cafewri...@shawRemoveThis.ca> wrote:

With your attitude going, "the mother should die, a child should live"...
with this, it would be a tragic event when most of the children being born
are either being given up or have lost their mothers in the childbirth.

Sorry, kiddos, but the medical care have not changed that much since the
1800's when many women during that time died while giving birth


So your solution to all this is kill the baby?

No, I'm pretty sure that killing is YOUR solution to most problems.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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User: "Pinch"

Title: Re: When life begins 11 Apr 2007 04:31:28 AM
On Apr 6, 4:37 pm, "CafeWriter" <cafewri...@shawRemoveThis.ca> wrote:

"Denis Loubet" <dlou...@io.com> wrote in message

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"J Young" <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote in message
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On Apr 6, 12:17?am, The Chief Instigator <patr...@eris.io.com> wrote:

"J Young" <youngopini...@aol.com> writes:

Life begins at the moment of conception; to destroy that life anytime
after is to kill it. Whether it is classified as a crime depends upon
the laws at that given time. To one who is "pro-life", abortion is
always murder.


In that case, your alleged god dwarfs all the abortionists of history
combined, since up to 70% of fertilized eggs don't attach to the uterine
wall
and are swept out at the next menses.


--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patr...@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Peoria 8, Houston 2 (April 3)
NEXT GAME: Friday, April 6 at Peoria, 7:35


What is done intentionally and what happens naturally are two
different stories.


Naturally? What's that? In a god-created universe, everything is
artificial.


Thus god designed human females to slaughter legions of zygot-people.


--
Denis Loubet
dlou...@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com


You are really confusing me. What the heck is zygot people?!

He's being deliberately (and deliciously) snide toward the idiotic
biblical creationists.
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User: "bob young"

Title: Re: When life begins 06 Apr 2007 01:15:03 AM
J Young wrote:

On Apr 6, 12:17�am, The Chief Instigator <patr...@eris.io.com> wrote:

"J Young" <youngopini...@aol.com> writes:

Life begins at the moment of conception; to destroy that life anytime
after is to kill it. Whether it is classified as a crime depends upon
the laws at that given time. To one who is "pro-life", abortion is
always murder.


In that case, your alleged god dwarfs all the abortionists of history
combined, since up to 70% of fertilized eggs don't attach to the uterine wall
and are swept out at the next menses.

--
   Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patr...@io.com)  Houston, Texas  
    chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php  (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
                   LAST GAME: Peoria 8, Houston 2 (April 3)
                  NEXT GAME: Friday, April 6 at Peoria, 7:35


What is done intentionally and what happens naturally are two
different stories.

Oh, so if a normal baby arrives, that is intentional,
but if it arrives grossly deformed, so gross the parents are not alowed to see it
- that is natural?
[Some god!]
Bob Young
[from the sane side]
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User: "Martin"

Title: Re: When life begins 06 Apr 2007 01:26:57 AM
J Young wrote:

On Apr 6, 12:17�am, The Chief Instigator <patr...@eris.io.com> wrote:

"J Young" <youngopini...@aol.com> writes:

Life begins at the moment of conception; to destroy that life anytime
after is to kill it. Whether it is classified as a crime depends upon
the laws at that given time. To one who is "pro-life", abortion is
always murder.

In that case, your alleged god dwarfs all the abortionists of history
combined, since up to 70% of fertilized eggs don't attach to the uterine wall
and are swept out at the next menses.

--
� �Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patr...@io.com) �Houston, Texas �
� � chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php �(TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
� � � � � � � � � �LAST GAME: Peoria 8, Houston 2 (April 3)
� � � � � � � � � NEXT GAME: Friday, April 6 at Peoria, 7:35





What is done intentionally and what happens naturally are two
different stories.

It's not natural Young if your god is resposible for it. Let's all put
the blame where it belongs. Why does god have the right to kill 'babies'
while we are not allowed to perform abortions?


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User: "CafeWriter"

Title: Re: When life begins 06 Apr 2007 03:38:04 PM
"Martin" <usenet1@etiqa.co.uk> wrote in message
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J Young wrote:

On Apr 6, 12:17?am, The Chief Instigator <patr...@eris.io.com> wrote:

"J Young" <youngopini...@aol.com> writes:

Life begins at the moment of conception; to destroy that life anytime
after is to kill it. Whether it is classified as a crime depends upon
the laws at that given time. To one who is "pro-life", abortion is
always murder.

In that case, your alleged god dwarfs all the abortionists of history
combined, since up to 70% of fertilized eggs don't attach to the uterine
wall
and are swept out at the next menses.

--
? ?Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patr...@io.com) ?Houston,
Texas ?
? ? chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php ?(TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
AA#2273
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?LAST GAME: Peoria 8, Houston 2 (April 3)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? NEXT GAME: Friday, April 6 at Peoria, 7:35





What is done intentionally and what happens naturally are two
different stories.


It's not natural Young if your god is resposible for it. Let's all put the
blame where it belongs. Why does god have the right to kill 'babies' while
we are not allowed to perform abortions?


That's a really good question.
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User: "John Popelish"

Title: Re: When life begins 06 Apr 2007 09:31:36 AM
J Young wrote:

What is done intentionally and what happens naturally are two
different stories.

Are you making the claim that intentions are not natural, or
are supernatural?
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User: "Douglas Berry"

Title: Re: When life begins 06 Apr 2007 07:35:50 AM
On 5 Apr 2007 21:20:31 -0700 there was an Ancient "J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com> who stoppeth one in alt.atheism

On Apr 6, 12:17?am, The Chief Instigator <patr...@eris.io.com> wrote:

"J Young" <youngopini...@aol.com> writes:

Life begins at the moment of conception; to destroy that life anytime
after is to kill it. Whether it is classified as a crime depends upon
the laws at that given time. To one who is "pro-life", abortion is
always murder.


In that case, your alleged god dwarfs all the abortionists of history
combined, since up to 70% of fertilized eggs don't attach to the uterine wall
and are swept out at the next menses.


What is done intentionally and what happens naturally are two
different stories.

Really? So since Terry Schiavo died of natural causes (she couldn't
feed herself and starved) you support the court decisions to remove
her artificial, non-natural feeding tubes?
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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