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"Deuteros" |
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22 Dec 2005 06:23:50 PM |
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Why I'm no longer a Republican |
Republicans are supposed to be the party of small government, right? Well,
the Republican Party has controlled Congress for over ten years and
controlled the White House for almost five years and yet every year they've
been in power, federal spending has increased every year.
May I ask what the hell are they waiting for?
I guess true, small government conservatism is dead. It seems that one
either has to choose between the police state Republicans or the
nanny/entitlement state Democrats. Even George Bush, aside from his
opposition to abortion and tax cuts, might as well be a Democrat. There
seems to be no real difference these days.
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: Why I'm no longer a Republican |
22 Dec 2005 11:03:00 PM |
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Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> writes:
Republicans are supposed to be the party of small government, right? Well,
the Republican Party has controlled Congress for over ten years and
controlled the White House for almost five years and yet every year they've
been in power, federal spending has increased every year.
May I ask what the hell are they waiting for?
I guess true, small government conservatism is dead. It seems that one
either has to choose between the police state Republicans or the
nanny/entitlement state Democrats. Even George Bush, aside from his
opposition to abortion and tax cuts, might as well be a Democrat. There
seems to be no real difference these days.
That's one reason I've been a lower-case libertarian for the past
quarter-century and change...
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 7, Peoria 2 (December 17)
NEXT GAME: Friday, December 23 vs. Omaha, 7:35
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| User: "Theodore Baldwin Boothe III" |
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| Title: Re: Why I'm no longer a Republican |
23 Dec 2005 12:22:07 AM |
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On 22 Dec 2005 23:03:00 -0600, The Chief Instigator <patrick@io.com>
wrote:
That's one reason I've been a lower-case libertarian for the past
quarter-century and change...
Libertarian? So you support child prostitution, child labor, and child
porn?
Man, that is messed up!
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If you wait by the river long enough your enemies will float by.
http://www.dubyareport.net/
http://www.dubyareport.net/forum/
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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| Title: Re: Why I'm no longer a Republican |
23 Dec 2005 06:20:55 AM |
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In article <5r5nq1lggsuph62dkf47vj9uhie4m9l0b6@lol.com>,
Theodore Baldwin Boothe III <DNC_TN@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
Libertarian? So you support child prostitution, child labor, and child
porn?
really? interesting. cite some sources for that, please.
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| User: "Theodore Baldwin Boothe III" |
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| Title: Re: Why I'm no longer a Republican |
23 Dec 2005 08:48:55 AM |
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On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 07:20:55 -0500, "james g. keegan jr."
<jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote:
In article <5r5nq1lggsuph62dkf47vj9uhie4m9l0b6@lol.com>,
Theodore Baldwin Boothe III <DNC_TN@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
Libertarian? So you support child prostitution, child labor, and child
porn?
really? interesting. cite some sources for that, please.
Sources?
Is that like needing to show sources proving humans breathe air?
Yes, I need proof of that or it's a damn lie!!
It is well know libertarians, like liberals, support some kook ideas.
Every one with a brain knows this.
No interested in doing your homework for you little boy.
Merry CHRISTmas
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If you wait by the river long enough your enemies will float by.
http://www.dubyareport.net/
http://www.dubyareport.net/forum/
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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| Title: Re: Why I'm no longer a Republican |
23 Dec 2005 02:53:58 PM |
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In article <bg3oq1lafqdm64nmo14b02dtncj94tgpr0@lol.com>,
Theodore Baldwin Boothe III <DNC_TN@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 07:20:55 -0500, "james g. keegan jr."
<jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote:
In article <5r5nq1lggsuph62dkf47vj9uhie4m9l0b6@lol.com>,
Theodore Baldwin Boothe III <DNC_TN@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
Libertarian? So you support child prostitution, child labor, and child
porn?
really? interesting. cite some sources for that, please.
Sources?
sources.
Is that like needing to show sources proving humans breathe air?
which is trivial to substantiate.
lies are, of course, not.
Yes, I need proof of that or it's a damn lie!!
i believe most recognize that
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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23 Dec 2005 01:23:38 PM |
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Theodore Baldwin Boothe III <DNC_TN@YAHOO.COM> writes:
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 07:20:55 -0500, "james g. keegan jr."
<jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote:
In article <5r5nq1lggsuph62dkf47vj9uhie4m9l0b6@lol.com>,
Theodore Baldwin Boothe III <DNC_TN@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
Libertarian? So you support child prostitution, child labor, and child
porn?
really? interesting. cite some sources for that, please.
Sources?
Is that like needing to show sources proving humans breathe air?
Yes, I need proof of that or it's a damn lie!!
It is well know libertarians, like liberals, support some kook ideas.
Every one with a brain knows this.
No interested in doing your homework for you little boy.
In other words, you're admitting you have nothing but your own worthless word
to back you up. Thanks for straightening that out. (For some reason I've
never supported any of your fantasies, but I *do* support a government that
will actually obey the laws it's chartered under - and the current pack of
rabid dogs in DC aren't very interested in that.)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 7, Peoria 2 (December 17)
NEXT GAME: Friday, December 23 vs. Omaha, 7:35
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| User: "Deuteros" |
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| Title: Re: Why I'm no longer a Republican |
25 Dec 2005 09:14:41 PM |
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Theodore Baldwin Boothe III <DNC_TN@YAHOO.COM> wrote in
news:bg3oq1lafqdm64nmo14b02dtncj94tgpr0@lol.com:
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 07:20:55 -0500, "james g. keegan jr."
<jgkeegan@gmail.com> wrote:
In article <5r5nq1lggsuph62dkf47vj9uhie4m9l0b6@lol.com>,
Theodore Baldwin Boothe III <DNC_TN@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
Libertarian? So you support child prostitution, child labor, and child
porn?
really? interesting. cite some sources for that, please.
Sources?
Is that like needing to show sources proving humans breathe air?
Yes, I need proof of that or it's a damn lie!!
It is well know libertarians, like liberals, support some kook ideas.
Every one with a brain knows this.
No interested in doing your homework for you little boy.
Your admission of defeat is noted.
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| User: "Armitage" |
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23 Dec 2005 09:45:16 AM |
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This piece was written before the '04 election.
I don't know who the author is,so can't give a proper attribution.
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Something has gone seriously haywire with the Republican Party.
Once, it was the party of pragmatic Main Street businessmen in steel-rimmed
spectacles who decried profligacy and waste, were devoted to their
communities and supported the sort of prosperity that raises all ships.
They were good-hearted people who vanquished the gnarlier elements of
their party, the paranoid Roosevelt-haters, the flat Earthers and
Prohibitionists, the antipapist antiforeigner element.
The genial Eisenhower was their man, a genuine American hero of D-Day,
who made it okay for reasonable people to vote Republican. He brought the
Korean War to a stalemate, produced the Interstate Highway System,
declined to rescue the French colonial army in Vietnam, and gave us a
period of peace and prosperity, in which (oddly) American arts and
letters flourished and higher education burgeoned - and there was a
degree of plain decency in the country. Fifties Republicans were giants
compared to today's. Richard Nixon was the last Republican leader to
feel a Christian obligation toward the poor.
In the years between Nixon and Newt Gingrich, the party
migrated southward down the Twisting Trail of Rhetoric and sneered at
the idea of public service and became the Scourge of Liberalism, the
Great Crusade Against the Sixties, the Death Star of Government, a gang
of pirates that diverted and fascinated the media by their sheer
chutzpah, such as the misty-eyed flag-waving of Ronald Reagan who, while
George McGovern flew bombers in World War II, took a pass and made
training films in Long Beach. The Nixon moderate vanished like the
passenger pigeon, purged by a legion of angry white men who rose to
power on pure punk politics. 'Bipartisanship is another term of date
rape,' says Grover Norquist, the Sid Vicious of the GOP. 'I don't want
to abolish government. I simply want to reduce it to the size where I
can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub.' The boy has
Oedipal problems and government is his daddy.
The party of Lincoln and Liberty was transmogrified into the
party of hairy-backed swamp developers and corporate shills, faith-based
economists, fundamentalist bullies with Bibles, Christians of
convenience, freelance racists, misanthropic frat boys, shrieking
midgets of AM radio, tax cheats, nihilists in golf pants, brownshirts in
pinstripes, sweatshop tycoons, hacks, fakirs, aggressive dorks,
Lamborghini libertarians,little honkers out to diminish the
rest of us, Newt's evil spawn and their Etch-A-Sketch president, a dull
and rigid man suspicious of the free flow of information and of secular
institutions, whose philosophy is a jumble of badly sutured body parts
trying to walk.
Republicans: The No.1 reason the rest of the world thinks we're deaf, dumb
and dangerous.
Rich ironies abound!
Lies pop up like toadstools in the forest!
Wild swine crowd round the public trough!
Outrageous gerrymandering!
Pocket lining on a massive scale!
Paid lobbyists sit in committee rooms and write legislation to alleviate the
suffering of
billionaires!
Hypocrisies shine like cat turds in the moonlight!
Oh Mark Twain, where art thou at this hour?
Arise and behold the Gilded Age reincarnated gaudier than ever,
upholding great wealth as the sure sign of Divine Grace.
Here in 2004, George W. Bush is running for reelection on a
platform of tragedy - the single greatest failure of national defense in
our history, the attacks of 9/11 in which 19 men with box cutters put
this nation into a tailspin, a failure the details of which the White
House fought to keep secret even as it ran the country into hock up to
the hubcaps, thanks to generous tax cuts for the well-fixed, hoping to
lead us into a box canyon of debt that will render government impotent,
even as we engage in a war against a small country that was undertaken
for the president's personal satisfaction but sold to the American
public on the basis of brazen misinformation, a war whose purpose is to
distract us from an enormous transfer of wealth taking place in this
country, flowing upward, and the deception is working beautifully.
The concentration of wealth and power in the hands of the
few is the death knell of democracy. No republic in the history of
humanity has survived this. The election of 2004 will say something
about what happens to ours. The omens are not good.
Our beloved land has been fogged with fear - fear, the
greatest political strategy ever. An ominous silence, distant sirens, a
drumbeat of whispered warnings and alarms to keep the public uneasy and
silence the opposition. And in a time of vague fear, you can appoint
bullet-brained judges, strip the bark off the Constitution, eviscerate
federal regulatory agencies, bring public education to a standstill,
stupefy the press, lavish gorgeous tax breaks on the rich.
There is a stink drifting through this election year. It
isn't the Florida recount or the Supreme Court decision. No, it's 9/11
that we keep coming back to. It wasn't the 'end of innocence,' or a
turning point in our history, or a cosmic occurrence, it was an event, a
lapse of security. And patriotism shouldn't prevent people from asking
hard questions of the man who was purportedly in charge of national
security at the time.
Whenever I think of those New Yorkers hurrying along Park
Place or getting off the No.1 Broadway local, hustling toward their
office on the 90th floor, the morning paper under their arms, I think of
that non-reader George W. Bush and how he hopes to exploit those people
with a little economic uptick, maybe the capture of Osama, cruise to
victory in November and proceed to get some serious nation-changing done
in his second term.
This year, as in the past, Republicans will portray us
Democrats as embittered academics, desiccated Unitarians, whacked-out
hippies and communards, people who talk to telephone poles, the party of
the Deadheads. They will wave enormous flags and wow over and over the
footage of firemen in the wreckage of the World Trade Center and bodies
being carried out and they will lie about their economic policies with
astonishing enthusiasm.
The Union is what needs defending this year. Government of
Enron and by Halliburton and for the Southern Baptists is not the same
as what Lincoln spoke of. This gang of Pithecanthropus Republicanii has
humbugged us to death on terrorism and tax cuts for the comfy and school
prayer and flag burning and claimed the right to know what books we read
and to dump their sewage upstream from the town and clear-cut the
forests and gut the IRS and mark up the constitution on behalf of
intolerance and promote the corporate takeover of the public airwaves
and to hell with anybody who opposes them.
This is a great country, and it wasn't made so by angry
people. We have a sacred duty to bequeath it to our grandchildren in
better shape than however we found it. We have a long way to go and
we're not getting any younger.
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: Why I'm no longer a Republican |
23 Dec 2005 02:43:26 AM |
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Theodore Baldwin Boothe III <DNC_TN@YAHOO.COM> writes:
On 22 Dec 2005 23:03:00 -0600, The Chief Instigator <patrick@io.com>
wrote:
That's one reason I've been a lower-case libertarian for the past
quarter-century and change...
Libertarian? So you support child prostitution, child labor, and child porn?
Man, that is messed up!
Not as messed up as your inept trolling.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 7, Peoria 2 (December 17)
NEXT GAME: Friday, December 23 vs. Omaha, 7:35
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| User: "Theodore Baldwin Boothe III" |
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| Title: Re: Why I'm no longer a Republican |
23 Dec 2005 08:45:29 AM |
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On 23 Dec 2005 02:43:26 -0600, The Chief Instigator <patrick@io.com>
wrote:
Theodore Baldwin Boothe III <DNC_TN@YAHOO.COM> writes:
On 22 Dec 2005 23:03:00 -0600, The Chief Instigator <patrick@io.com>
wrote:
That's one reason I've been a lower-case libertarian for the past
quarter-century and change...
Libertarian? So you support child prostitution, child labor, and child porn?
Man, that is messed up!
Not as messed up as your inept trolling.
So the truth suddenly became trolling?
Why was I not informed of this usenet change?
I bet the liberals are behind this one too.
merry CHRISTmas
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If you wait by the river long enough your enemies will float by.
http://www.dubyareport.net/
http://www.dubyareport.net/forum/
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| User: "t.j. mello" |
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23 Dec 2005 08:54:33 AM |
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On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 09:45:29 -0500, Theodore Baldwin Boothe III
<DNC_TN@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
On 23 Dec 2005 02:43:26 -0600, The Chief Instigator <patrick@io.com>
wrote:
Theodore Baldwin Boothe III <DNC_TN@YAHOO.COM> writes:
On 22 Dec 2005 23:03:00 -0600, The Chief Instigator <patrick@io.com>
wrote:
That's one reason I've been a lower-case libertarian for the past
quarter-century and change...
Libertarian? So you support child prostitution, child labor, and child porn?
Man, that is messed up!
Not as messed up as your inept trolling.
So the truth suddenly became trolling?
Why was I not informed of this usenet change?
I bet the liberals are behind this one too.
Subtlety, required for good trolling, doesn't appear to be one of your
strong points...
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: Why I'm no longer a Republican |
23 Dec 2005 01:25:59 PM |
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Theodore Baldwin Boothe III <DNC_TN@YAHOO.COM> writes:
On 23 Dec 2005 02:43:26 -0600, The Chief Instigator <patrick@io.com>
wrote:
Theodore Baldwin Boothe III <DNC_TN@YAHOO.COM> writes:
On 22 Dec 2005 23:03:00 -0600, The Chief Instigator <patrick@io.com>
wrote:
That's one reason I've been a lower-case libertarian for the past
quarter-century and change...
Libertarian? So you support child prostitution, child labor, and child porn?
Man, that is messed up!
Not as messed up as your inept trolling.
So the truth suddenly became trolling?
Your "truth" has little to do with reality, son.
Why was I not informed of this usenet change?
I bet the liberals are behind this one too.
Then whine at them, little boy. I've never been particularly liberal. I'm
just one of those people that wants the government to obey the rules it sets
down for us.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 7, Peoria 2 (December 17)
NEXT GAME: Friday, December 23 vs. Omaha, 7:35
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| User: "Deuteros" |
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| Title: Re: Why I'm no longer a Republican |
25 Dec 2005 09:13:49 PM |
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The Chief Instigator <patrick@io.com> wrote in
news:szk3bkj62ew.fsf@fnord.io.com:
Theodore Baldwin Boothe III <DNC_TN@YAHOO.COM> writes:
On 23 Dec 2005 02:43:26 -0600, The Chief Instigator <patrick@io.com>
wrote:
Theodore Baldwin Boothe III <DNC_TN@YAHOO.COM> writes:
On 22 Dec 2005 23:03:00 -0600, The Chief Instigator <patrick@io.com>
wrote:
That's one reason I've been a lower-case libertarian for the past
quarter-century and change...
Libertarian? So you support child prostitution, child labor, and child
porn? Man, that is messed up!
Not as messed up as your inept trolling.
So the truth suddenly became trolling?
Your "truth" has little to do with reality, son.
Why was I not informed of this usenet change?
I bet the liberals are behind this one too.
Then whine at them, little boy. I've never been particularly liberal.
I'm just one of those people that wants the government to obey the rules
it sets down for us.
And obey the rules we set for them.
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: Why I'm no longer a Republican |
25 Dec 2005 09:20:49 PM |
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Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> writes:
The Chief Instigator <patrick@io.com> wrote in
news:szk3bkj62ew.fsf@fnord.io.com:
Theodore Baldwin Boothe III <DNC_TN@YAHOO.COM> writes:
On 23 Dec 2005 02:43:26 -0600, The Chief Instigator <patrick@io.com>
wrote:
Theodore Baldwin Boothe III <DNC_TN@YAHOO.COM> writes:
On 22 Dec 2005 23:03:00 -0600, The Chief Instigator <patrick@io.com>
wrote:
That's one reason I've been a lower-case libertarian for the past
quarter-century and change...
Libertarian? So you support child prostitution, child labor, and child
porn? Man, that is messed up!
Not as messed up as your inept trolling.
So the truth suddenly became trolling?
Your "truth" has little to do with reality, son.
Why was I not informed of this usenet change?
I bet the liberals are behind this one too.
Then whine at them, little boy. I've never been particularly liberal.
I'm just one of those people that wants the government to obey the rules
it sets down for us.
And obey the rules we set for them.
That's not what the GOP wingnuts want, but they'll have to take a back seat to
what the Constitution says, sooner or later. (The sooner the better, in my
opinion.)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 4, Omaha 3 (OT) (December 23)
NEXT GAME: Monday, December 26 vs. San Antonio, 7:05
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| User: "Deuteros" |
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| Title: Re: Why I'm no longer a Republican |
26 Dec 2005 08:41:52 AM |
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The Chief Instigator <patrick@io.com> wrote in
news:szku0cwa6i6.fsf@fnord.io.com:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> writes:
The Chief Instigator <patrick@io.com> wrote in
news:szk3bkj62ew.fsf@fnord.io.com:
Theodore Baldwin Boothe III <DNC_TN@YAHOO.COM> writes:
On 23 Dec 2005 02:43:26 -0600, The Chief Instigator <patrick@io.com>
wrote:
Theodore Baldwin Boothe III <DNC_TN@YAHOO.COM> writes:
On 22 Dec 2005 23:03:00 -0600, The Chief Instigator <patrick@io.com>
wrote:
That's one reason I've been a lower-case libertarian for the past
quarter-century and change...
Libertarian? So you support child prostitution, child labor, and
child porn? Man, that is messed up!
Not as messed up as your inept trolling.
So the truth suddenly became trolling?
Your "truth" has little to do with reality, son.
Why was I not informed of this usenet change?
I bet the liberals are behind this one too.
Then whine at them, little boy. I've never been particularly liberal.
I'm just one of those people that wants the government to obey the
rules it sets down for us.
And obey the rules we set for them.
That's not what the GOP wingnuts want,
That's not what either party in power wants.
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: Why I'm no longer a Republican |
26 Dec 2005 12:40:48 PM |
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Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> writes:
The Chief Instigator <patrick@io.com> wrote in
news:szku0cwa6i6.fsf@fnord.io.com:
Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> writes:
The Chief Instigator <patrick@io.com> wrote in
news:szk3bkj62ew.fsf@fnord.io.com:
Theodore Baldwin Boothe III <DNC_TN@YAHOO.COM> writes:
On 23 Dec 2005 02:43:26 -0600, The Chief Instigator <patrick@io.com>
wrote:
Theodore Baldwin Boothe III <DNC_TN@YAHOO.COM> writes:
On 22 Dec 2005 23:03:00 -0600, The Chief Instigator <patrick@io.com>
wrote:
That's one reason I've been a lower-case libertarian for the past
quarter-century and change...
Libertarian? So you support child prostitution, child labor, and
child porn? Man, that is messed up!
Not as messed up as your inept trolling.
So the truth suddenly became trolling?
Your "truth" has little to do with reality, son.
Why was I not informed of this usenet change?
I bet the liberals are behind this one too.
Then whine at them, little boy. I've never been particularly liberal.
I'm just one of those people that wants the government to obey the
rules it sets down for us.
And obey the rules we set for them.
That's not what the GOP wingnuts want,
That's not what either party in power wants.
Mea culpa...I should have said "the one party posing as two". Point taken.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 4, Omaha 3 (OT) (December 23)
NEXT GAME: Monday, December 26 vs. San Antonio, 7:05
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| User: "Deuteros" |
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| Title: Re: Why I'm no longer a Republican |
25 Dec 2005 09:10:42 PM |
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Theodore Baldwin Boothe III <DNC_TN@YAHOO.COM> wrote in
news:5r5nq1lggsuph62dkf47vj9uhie4m9l0b6@lol.com:
On 22 Dec 2005 23:03:00 -0600, The Chief Instigator <patrick@io.com>
wrote:
That's one reason I've been a lower-case libertarian for the past
quarter-century and change...
Libertarian? So you support child prostitution, child labor, and child
porn?
Man, that is messed up!
Do you belive in free speech? If yes, does that mean you support racial
slurs, Nazi rallies, and hate speech?
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| User: "Publius" |
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| Title: Re: Why I'm no longer a Republican |
23 Dec 2005 02:29:43 AM |
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Theodore Baldwin Boothe III <DNC_TN@YAHOO.COM> wrote in
news:5r5nq1lggsuph62dkf47vj9uhie4m9l0b6@lol.com:
Libertarian? So you support child prostitution, child labor, and child
porn? Man, that is messed up!
Hm. Which libertarians support those?
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| User: "Jim Austin" |
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| Title: Re: Why I'm no longer a Republican |
22 Dec 2005 10:53:50 PM |
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Deuteros wrote:
Republicans are supposed to be the party of small government, right?
More or less.
Well, the Republican Party has controlled Congress for over ten years and
controlled the White House for almost five years and yet every year they've
been in power, federal spending has increased every year.
May I ask what the hell are they waiting for?
Courage, committment, direction.
I guess true, small government conservatism is dead. It seems that one
either has to choose between the police state Republicans or the
nanny/entitlement state Democrats.
The "police state Republicans" term indicates sympathy with liberals'
softness on crime, softness on terrorism, etc.
Even George Bush, aside from his opposition to abortion and tax cuts, might as well be
a Democrat. There seems to be no real difference these days.
In analysing Republicans, one must consider the nature of the coalition
formed under that name.
There are the enterprise Republicans. They more or less support
capitalism and free enterprise. They're the ones who push for tax cuts
and regulatory relief.
There are the evangelical Republicans. They oppose abortion, favor
prayer in schools and governmental support of religious holiday
expressions.
There are RINO Repubicans (Republican In Name Only). They always
support the Democrats against Republicans. They are liberals.
Then there are the pure pragmatist Republicans. They are not motivated
by any commitment to any ideology. With the exception of Reagan, all
the Republican presidents in the last half of the last century were
pure pragmatist Republicans: Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford and both Bushs. As
pure pragmatists, such Republicans look no further than the impending
split second. Concepts of "past" and "future" have no meaning for them.
For pragmatists, "truth" is that which "works," and pragmatist
Republicans take that literally.
When the elder Bush told Republicans at the 1988 convention, "Read my
lips, no new taxes," he wasn't lying at all. A liar has a concept of
truth, that which he seeks to hide from others. To a pure pragmatist,
if his statement succeeds in persuading others, then it "works." That
makes it true. Since "future" has no meaning for him, Bush the elder
was unaware of making a committment. After he won, since he has no
concept of "past," he was unaware of having made a committment. He was
not constrained by anything he said in the past.
Thus when they become president, conservatives get the rhetoric, but
liberals get the action.
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| User: "Bret Cahill" |
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| Title: Re: Why I'm no longer a Republican |
22 Dec 2005 11:04:46 PM |
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Everything Republicon, fundies, "market" economists, etc. can be
explained by George Carlin:
"Republicans just want you to work for free."
Bret Cahill
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| User: "Frank" |
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22 Dec 2005 11:22:44 PM |
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"Bret Cahill" <BretCahill@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1135314286.060017.11660@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Everything Republicon, fundies, "market" economists, etc. can be
explained by George Carlin:
"Republicans just want you to work for free."
Bret Cahill
What would be the opposite from democrats, free money for your vote?
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| User: "tightwad" |
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22 Dec 2005 08:19:31 PM |
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Deuteros wrote:
Republicans are supposed to be the party of small government, right? Well,
the Republican Party has controlled Congress for over ten years and
controlled the White House for almost five years and yet every year they've
been in power, federal spending has increased every year.
May I ask what the hell are they waiting for?
I guess true, small government conservatism is dead. It seems that one
either has to choose between the police state Republicans or the
nanny/entitlement state Democrats. Even George Bush, aside from his
opposition to abortion and tax cuts, might as well be a Democrat. There
seems to be no real difference these days.
Repeat after me!!
I will not believe a Politician's words! I will believe his record!
George Bush may be a member of the Republican Party but he is not a
Conservative.
He is a Corporatist and he is on a mission to get as much of America as
he can for his Constituents in eight years and get his next in line
accepted by believe anything voters.
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| User: "Theodore Baldwin Boothe III" |
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| Title: Re: Why I'm no longer a Republican |
22 Dec 2005 07:55:55 PM |
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On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 19:23:50 -0500, Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
Republicans are supposed to be the party of small government, right? Well,
the Republican Party has controlled Congress for over ten years and
controlled the White House for almost five years and yet every year they've
been in power, federal spending has increased every year.
May I ask what the hell are they waiting for?
I guess true, small government conservatism is dead. It seems that one
either has to choose between the police state Republicans or the
nanny/entitlement state Democrats. Even George Bush, aside from his
opposition to abortion and tax cuts, might as well be a Democrat. There
seems to be no real difference these days.
The reason you're no longer a republican is because you were always a
liberal.
Figured that out in 3 seconds flat.
merry C H R I S Tmas
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If you wait by the river long enough your enemies will float by.
http://www.dubyareport.net/
http://www.dubyareport.net/forum/
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| User: "z" |
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22 Dec 2005 08:01:07 PM |
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Theodore Baldwin Boothe III <DNC_TN@YAHOO.COM> wrote in
news:u7mmq1lcvo4gbji4f3v5u4a1u9711qj7l6@lol.com:
On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 19:23:50 -0500, Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
Republicans are supposed to be the party of small government, right?
Well, the Republican Party has controlled Congress for over ten years
and controlled the White House for almost five years and yet every
year they've been in power, federal spending has increased every year.
May I ask what the hell are they waiting for?
I guess true, small government conservatism is dead. It seems that one
either has to choose between the police state Republicans or the
nanny/entitlement state Democrats. Even George Bush, aside from his
opposition to abortion and tax cuts, might as well be a Democrat.
There seems to be no real difference these days.
The reason you're no longer a republican is because you were always a
liberal.
Figured that out in 3 seconds flat.
Republicans in power are not conservative. That is the problem.
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| User: "Deuteros" |
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| Title: Re: Why I'm no longer a Republican |
22 Dec 2005 09:31:08 PM |
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Theodore Baldwin Boothe III <DNC_TN@YAHOO.COM> wrote in
news:u7mmq1lcvo4gbji4f3v5u4a1u9711qj7l6@lol.com:
On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 19:23:50 -0500, Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote:
Republicans are supposed to be the party of small government, right?
Well, the Republican Party has controlled Congress for over ten years
and controlled the White House for almost five years and yet every year
they've been in power, federal spending has increased every year.
May I ask what the hell are they waiting for?
I guess true, small government conservatism is dead. It seems that one
either has to choose between the police state Republicans or the
nanny/entitlement state Democrats. Even George Bush, aside from his
opposition to abortion and tax cuts, might as well be a Democrat. There
seems to be no real difference these days.
The reason you're no longer a republican is because you were always a
liberal.
Nope. Liberals are as bad as Republicans these days. Probably worse.
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