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User: "J Young"
Date: 07 Nov 2007 11:27:50 PM
Object: Wife-beating made simple
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58547
Wife-beating made simple
Saudi cleric teaches fine points of how to 'discipline' women
A religious leader in Saudi Arabia has provided instructions to young
Muslims about how to deliver a beating to their wives, saying, "the
beatings must be light and must not make her face ugly. He must beat
her where it will not leave marks."
The report comes from the Middle East Media Research Institute, which
monitors media reports throughout the Middle East.
The Saudi cleric, Muhammad Al-'Arifi, said on the video captured from
LBC Television by MEMRI, "Men beat women more often than women beat
men. I said that some women beat their husbands because this happens,
but it is rare, and there is no need to hold conferences on wives who
beat their husbands.
"Allah created women with these delicate, fragile, supple, and soft
bodies, because they use their emotions more than they use their
bodies. Therefore, while the man may use beating to discipline his
wife, she sometimes uses her tears to discipline him. He gets what he
wants by screaming, while she gets what she wants from him by crying
and displaying emotions. For men, women's emotions may be fiercer than
the strike of a sword," the cleric said.
MEMRI, which has a web page dedicated to video clips on the rights and
wrongs of beatings, said the cleric reported two options before the
beatings.
"First, 'admonish them' - once, twice, three times, four times, 10
times. If this doesn't help, 'refuse to share their beds.' In such a
case, the husband does not sleep with his wife, or, in other words, he
is angry with her. He gives her the silent treatment, refusing to talk
to her. If he comes to eat, and she asks him: 'How are you?' - he
doesn't answer. If she asks him: 'Do you want anything?' - he doesn't
answer. He distances himself from her in bed and in conversation; he
does not sleep with her, but goes to sleep in another room. He shows
her that he is angry with her," the cleric said.
"Then, he added, "If this does not help - if the admonishing does no
good, and when he goes to sleep in another room, she says: 'Thank God
he's gone. Now I've got the whole bed to myself, I will sleep alone in
bed and roll over at night as much as I like.' If neither method works
with her, what is the third option?"
The video shows a guest saying, "And beat them."
"That's right," said Al-'Arifi, "How is this beating performed? What
do you think?"
"Light beatings," the guest said.
"Light beatings in what way?" Al-'Arifi asked.
"For example, I wouldn't beat her in the face...," the guest said.
The cleric said such beatings are forbidden, "even when it comes to
animals.
"When a person is beating an animal ... Even if you want your camel or
donkey to start walking, you are not allowed to beat it in the face.
If this is true for animals, it is all the more true when it comes to
humans. So beatings should be light and not in the face," the cleric
said.
He continued, "Some religious scholars say: 'He should beat her with a
toothpick.' I happen to have a toothpick with me. A man who is angry
with his wife because she doesn't get it... If he says to her: 'Watch
out, the child has fallen next to the stove,' or: 'Move the child away
from the electrical socket,' and she says: 'I am busy' - then he beats
her with a toothpick or something like it. He doesn't beat her with a
bottle of water, a plate, or a knife. This is forbidden. The scholars
said he should beat her with a toothpick."
The cleric told the young Muslims beating a wife "is not to inflict
pain. ... A donkey understands nothing but beatings, but a woman, a man,
a child, and so on, are generally more affected by emotions than by
others things."
"If you beat her with a toothpick, or if you beat her lightly with
your hand, and so on, it is meant to convey: 'Woman, it has gone too
far. I can't bear it anymore.' If he beats her, the beatings must be
light and must not make her face ugly. He must beat her where it will
not leave marks. He should not beat her on the hand... He should beat
her in some places where it will not cause any damage. He should not
beat her like he would beat an animal or a child - slapping them right
and left. Unfortunately, many husbands beat their wives only when they
get mad, and when they start beating, it as if they are punching a
wall - they beat with their hands, right and left, and sometimes use
their feet. ... He must not do this."
.

User: "Martin"

Title: Re: Wife-beating made simple - The Christian Way 08 Nov 2007 03:04:18 AM
J Young wrote:


http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58547




Wife-beating made simple

Saudi cleric teaches fine points of how to 'discipline' women

How strange
http://www.sexinchrist.com/submission.html
22 Wives, submit to your own husbands as to the Lord, 23 for the husband
is head of the wife as also Christ is head of the church. He is the
Savior of the body. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so wives
should submit to their husbands in everything. 25 Husbands, love your
wives, just as also Christ loved the church and gave Himself for her, 26
to make her holy, cleansing her in the washing of water by the word.
(Ephesians 5:22-26)
If people are bound with chains and trapped by the cords of
affliction, 9 God tells them what they have done and how arrogantly they
have transgressed. 10 He opens their ears to correction and insists they
repent from iniquity. 11 If they serve Him obediently, they will end
their days in prosperity and their years in happiness. (Job 36:8-11)
As God looks after us, in Christian BDSM, the husband looks after both
his wife's spiritual growth and her physical needs, and the wife submits
to her husband for guidance and fulfillment. For these reasons, the
husband may find it appropriate to discipline her as needed, in a spirit
of love. He disciplines her as God disciplines all of us believers, and
as we read in Hebrews, this may smart at the time, but is always for our
own good:
5 My son, do not take the Lord's discipline lightly, or faint when you
are reproved by Him; 6 for the Lord disciplines the one He loves, and
punishes every son whom He receives…He does it for our benefit, so that
we can share His holiness. 11 No discipline seems enjoyable at the time,
but painful. Later on, however, it yields the fruit of peace and
righteousness to those who have been trained by it. (Hebrews 12:5-11)
Of course, we are not endorsing any sort of abuse or nonconsensual
violence. BDSM is not "wife beating" or domestic violence. There is a
huge difference between punishment inflicted out of anger and cruelty by
one person overpowering another, and discipline that is meted out with
love and reason, gratefully and willingly received. Those who
participate in bondage and discipline and sadomasochism do so of their
own free will and by mutual agreement, and as with the
Dominant/submissive relationship, it takes two to tango. Although it may
seem like the person who ties the knots or wields the paddle holds all
the power, if BDSM is practiced respectfully and ethically, the power is
shared. The husband should always respect the limits of his wife with
respect to pain or humiliation, so that he does not inflict any real
physical or emotional harm on her.
http://christiandomesticdiscipline.com/Home.html
A Christian Domestic Discipline marriage is one that is set up according
to Biblical standards; that is, the husband is the authority in the
household. The wife is submissive to her husband as is fit in the Lord
and her husband loves her as himself. He has the ultimate authority in
his household, but it is tempered with the knowledge that he must answer
to God for his actions and decisions. He has the authority to spank his
wife for punishment, but in real CDD marriages this is taken very
seriously and usually happens only rarely. CDD is so much more than
just spanking. It is the husband loving the wife enough to guide and
teach her, and the wife loving the husband enough to follow his
leadership. A Christian marriage embodies true romance and a Christian
man a true hero.
Though this seems unusual in today's United States, this kind of
marriage has been practiced throughout history and is still practiced in
many parts of the world today.
.

User: "TheLetterK"

Title: Re: Wife-beating made simple 08 Nov 2007 07:31:15 PM
J Young wrote:


http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58547




Wife-beating made simple

Saudi cleric teaches fine points of how to 'discipline' women

Lessons that any good Christian should agree are perfectly fine by God.
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User: "Martin"

Title: Re: Wife-beating made simple 08 Nov 2007 03:36:10 AM
J Young wrote:


http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58547

Now hang on a sec ...

He continued, "Some religious scholars say: 'He should beat her with a
toothpick.' I happen to have a toothpick with me. A man who is angry
with his wife because she doesn't get it... If he says to her: 'Watch
out, the child has fallen next to the stove,' or: 'Move the child away
from the electrical socket,' and she says: 'I am busy' - then he beats
her with a toothpick or something like it. He doesn't beat her with a
bottle of water, a plate, or a knife. This is forbidden. The scholars
said he should beat her with a toothpick."

Now, read that last sentance again.
Am I the only one who thinks this is a parady and WND fell for it?
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Wife-beating made simple 08 Nov 2007 03:57:36 AM
On 8 nov, 10:36, Martin <usen...@etiqa.co.uk> wrote:

J Young wrote:

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58547


Now hang on a sec ...

He continued, "Some religious scholars say: 'He should beat her with a
toothpick.' I happen to have a toothpick with me. A man who is angry
with his wife because she doesn't get it... If he says to her: 'Watch
out, the child has fallen next to the stove,' or: 'Move the child away
from the electrical socket,' and she says: 'I am busy' - then he beats
her with a toothpick or something like it. He doesn't beat her with a
bottle of water, a plate, or a knife. This is forbidden. The scholars
said he should beat her with a toothpick."


Now, read that last sentance again.

Am I the only one who thinks this is a parady and WND fell for it?

Isn't WND the "news" website that believed that soya milk made
children gay?
No surprise J Young worships this website...
.
User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: Wife-beating made simple 08 Nov 2007 06:23:38 AM
<parsifal50@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1194515856.081213.47530@o3g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...

On 8 nov, 10:36, Martin <usen...@etiqa.co.uk> wrote:

J Young wrote:

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58547


Now hang on a sec ...

He continued, "Some religious scholars say: 'He should beat her with a
toothpick.' I happen to have a toothpick with me. A man who is angry
with his wife because she doesn't get it... If he says to her: 'Watch
out, the child has fallen next to the stove,' or: 'Move the child away
from the electrical socket,' and she says: 'I am busy' - then he beats
her with a toothpick or something like it. He doesn't beat her with a
bottle of water, a plate, or a knife. This is forbidden. The scholars
said he should beat her with a toothpick."


Now, read that last sentance again.

Am I the only one who thinks this is a parady and WND fell for it?


Isn't WND the "news" website that believed that soya milk made
children gay?
No surprise J Young worships this website...

Well, I use soy creamer in my coffee every morning and I'm still hetero ;)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
1557
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User: "skyeyes"

Title: Re: Wife-beating made simple 09 Nov 2007 04:21:24 PM
On Nov 8, 5:23 am, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:

Well, I use soy creamer in my coffee every morning and I'm still hetero ;)

Yeah, but you're female to start with. The theory being set forth is
that soy contains estrogen, the primary female hormone, and the one
responsible for feminine characteristics. The anti-soy crowd thinks
that there's enough estrogen in soy to feminize *boys*.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes at dakotacom dot net
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Wife-beating made simple 10 Nov 2007 11:37:05 PM
On 9-Nov-2007, skyeyes <skyeyes@dakotacom.net> wrote:

On Nov 8, 5:23 am, "Robibnikoff" <witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:


Well, I use soy creamer in my coffee every morning and I'm still hetero
;)


Yeah, but you're female to start with. The theory being set forth is
that soy contains estrogen, the primary female hormone, and the one
responsible for feminine characteristics. The anti-soy crowd thinks
that there's enough estrogen in soy to feminize *boys*.

I would ask if they've taken a look at Japan lately,
but I'm afraid to unleash a storm of anti-Asian crap...
Susan

Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes at dakotacom dot net

.




User: "Therion Ware"

Title: Re: Wife-beating made simple 08 Nov 2007 04:22:21 AM
On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 09:36:10 +0000, Martin <usenet1@etiqa.co.uk>
wrote:

J Young wrote:


http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58547


Now hang on a sec ...

He continued, "Some religious scholars say: 'He should beat her with a
toothpick.' I happen to have a toothpick with me. A man who is angry
with his wife because she doesn't get it... If he says to her: 'Watch
out, the child has fallen next to the stove,' or: 'Move the child away
from the electrical socket,' and she says: 'I am busy' - then he beats
her with a toothpick or something like it. He doesn't beat her with a
bottle of water, a plate, or a knife. This is forbidden. The scholars
said he should beat her with a toothpick."


Now, read that last sentance again.

Am I the only one who thinks this is a parady and WND fell for it?

Possibly. IIRC, Mohammed is quoted as advising using a flower to beat
ones wife with.
.


User: ""

Title: Re: Wife-beating made simple 08 Nov 2007 12:46:27 AM
On 8 nov, 06:27, J Young <younginsig...@aol.com> wrote:

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58547

Wife-beating made simple

With you, nazi turd, we can never tell if you send this because you
approve or because you disapprove.
Considering that you're well-known women-hater, I'd go for the former.
Oh, and who in his right mind would believe the propaganda published
by worldnetdaily... ?
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Wife-beating made simple 10 Nov 2007 12:24:03 AM
On Nov 7, 10:46 pm,
wrote:

On 8 nov, 06:27, J Young <younginsig...@aol.com> wrote:

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58547


Wife-beating made simple


With you, nazi turd, we can never tell if you send this because you
approve or because you disapprove.
Considering that you're well-known women-hater, I'd go for the former.

Oh, and who in his right mind would believe the propaganda published
by worldnetdaily... ?

Muslim men who follow the teachings of the Koran are not women
haters.
Regards...
.
User: "Kenneth Doyle"

Title: Re: Wife-beating made simple 10 Nov 2007 02:17:28 AM
On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 06:24:03 +0000,
wrote:

On Nov 7, 10:46 pm,

wrote:

On 8 nov, 06:27, J Young <younginsig...@aol.com> wrote:

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58547


Wife-beating made simple


With you, nazi turd, we can never tell if you send this because you
approve or because you disapprove.
Considering that you're well-known women-hater, I'd go for the former.

Oh, and who in his right mind would believe the propaganda published by
worldnetdaily... ?


Muslim men who follow the teachings of the Koran are not women haters.

Problem is, most followers of religion want the rest of us to follow
teachings, from which they themselves feel somehow exempt. Go figure.
.


User: "Grizzlie Antagonist"

Title: Re: Wife-beating made simple 08 Nov 2007 12:52:17 AM
On Nov 7, 10:46 pm,
wrote:

On 8 nov, 06:27, J Young <younginsig...@aol.com> wrote:

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58547


Wife-beating made simple


With you, nazi turd, we can never tell if you send this because you
approve or because you disapprove.
Considering that you're well-known women-hater, I'd go for the former.
Oh, and who in his right mind would believe the propaganda published
by worldnetdaily... ?

I might. MOO HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
YAHOO! I'M COO-COO FOR COCOA PUFFS! COO-COO FOR COCOA PUFFS! COO-
COO FOR COCOA PUFFS! COO-COO FOR COCOA PUFFS!
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Wife-beating made simple 08 Nov 2007 03:59:14 AM
On 8 nov, 07:52, Grizzlie Antagonist <lloydsofhanf...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

On Nov 7, 10:46 pm,

wrote:

On 8 nov, 06:27, J Young <younginsig...@aol.com> wrote:


http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58547


Wife-beating made simple


With you, nazi turd, we can never tell if you send this because you
approve or because you disapprove.
Considering that you're well-known women-hater, I'd go for the former.
Oh, and who in his right mind would believe the propaganda published
by worldnetdaily... ?


I might. MOO HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

YAHOO! I'M COO-COO FOR COCOA PUFFS! COO-COO FOR COCOA PUFFS! COO-
COO FOR COCOA PUFFS! COO-COO FOR COCOA PUFFS!

Get help
.
User: "Grizzlie Antagonist"

Title: Re: Wife-beating made simple 08 Nov 2007 07:54:18 PM
On Nov 8, 1:59 am,
wrote:

On 8 nov, 07:52, Grizzlie Antagonist <lloydsofhanf...@yahoo.com>
wrote:





On Nov 7, 10:46 pm,

wrote:


On 8 nov, 06:27, J Young <younginsig...@aol.com> wrote:


http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58547


Wife-beating made simple


With you, nazi turd, we can never tell if you send this because you
approve or because you disapprove.
Considering that you're well-known women-hater, I'd go for the former.
Oh, and who in his right mind would believe the propaganda published
by worldnetdaily... ?


I might. MOO HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!


YAHOO! I'M COO-COO FOR COCOA PUFFS! COO-COO FOR COCOA PUFFS! COO-
COO FOR COCOA PUFFS! COO-COO FOR COCOA PUFFS!


Get help

Well, I really haven't needed anybody's help in any way. But that was
when I was younger, so much younger than today.
.



User: "=?iso-8859-1?q?Gwyne=F0_Bennetdottir?="

Title: Re: Wife-beating made simple 08 Nov 2007 03:50:54 AM
On Nov 8, 12:46 am,
wrote:

On 8 nov, 06:27, J Young <younginsig...@aol.com> wrote:

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58547


Wife-beating made simple


With you, nazi turd, we can never tell if you send this because you
approve or because you disapprove.
Considering that you're well-known women-hater, I'd go for the former.

He worships insane clerics who endorse sexual and physical abuse.

Oh, and who in his right mind would believe the propaganda published
by worldnetdaily... ?

.


User: "NefeshBarYochai"

Title: Re: Wife-beating made simple 08 Nov 2007 12:03:41 AM
On Nov 7, 10:27 pm, J Young <younginsig...@aol.com> wrote:

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58547

Wife-beating made simple

Saudi cleric teaches fine points of how to 'discipline' women

A religious leader in Saudi Arabia has provided instructions to young
Muslims about how to deliver a beating to their wives, saying, "the
beatings must be light and must not make her face ugly. He must beat
her where it will not leave marks."

The report comes from the Middle East Media Research Institute, which
monitors media reports throughout the Middle East.

The Saudi cleric, Muhammad Al-'Arifi, said on the video captured from
LBC Television by MEMRI, "Men beat women more often than women beat
men. I said that some women beat their husbands because this happens,
but it is rare, and there is no need to hold conferences on wives who
beat their husbands.

"Allah created women with these delicate, fragile, supple, and soft
bodies, because they use their emotions more than they use their
bodies. Therefore, while the man may use beating to discipline his
wife, she sometimes uses her tears to discipline him. He gets what he
wants by screaming, while she gets what she wants from him by crying
and displaying emotions. For men, women's emotions may be fiercer than
the strike of a sword," the cleric said.

MEMRI, which has a web page dedicated to video clips on the rights and
wrongs of beatings, said the cleric reported two options before the
beatings.

"First, 'admonish them' - once, twice, three times, four times, 10
times. If this doesn't help, 'refuse to share their beds.' In such a
case, the husband does not sleep with his wife, or, in other words, he
is angry with her. He gives her the silent treatment, refusing to talk
to her. If he comes to eat, and she asks him: 'How are you?' - he
doesn't answer. If she asks him: 'Do you want anything?' - he doesn't
answer. He distances himself from her in bed and in conversation; he
does not sleep with her, but goes to sleep in another room. He shows
her that he is angry with her," the cleric said.

"Then, he added, "If this does not help - if the admonishing does no
good, and when he goes to sleep in another room, she says: 'Thank God
he's gone. Now I've got the whole bed to myself, I will sleep alone in
bed and roll over at night as much as I like.' If neither method works
with her, what is the third option?"

The video shows a guest saying, "And beat them."

"That's right," said Al-'Arifi, "How is this beating performed? What
do you think?"

"Light beatings," the guest said.

"Light beatings in what way?" Al-'Arifi asked.

"For example, I wouldn't beat her in the face...," the guest said.

The cleric said such beatings are forbidden, "even when it comes to
animals.

"When a person is beating an animal ... Even if you want your camel or
donkey to start walking, you are not allowed to beat it in the face.
If this is true for animals, it is all the more true when it comes to
humans. So beatings should be light and not in the face," the cleric
said.

He continued, "Some religious scholars say: 'He should beat her with a
toothpick.' I happen to have a toothpick with me. A man who is angry
with his wife because she doesn't get it... If he says to her: 'Watch
out, the child has fallen next to the stove,' or: 'Move the child away
from the electrical socket,' and she says: 'I am busy' - then he beats
her with a toothpick or something like it. He doesn't beat her with a
bottle of water, a plate, or a knife. This is forbidden. The scholars
said he should beat her with a toothpick."

The cleric told the young Muslims beating a wife "is not to inflict
pain. ... A donkey understands nothing but beatings, but a woman, a man,
a child, and so on, are generally more affected by emotions than by
others things."

"If you beat her with a toothpick, or if you beat her lightly with
your hand, and so on, it is meant to convey: 'Woman, it has gone too
far. I can't bear it anymore.' If he beats her, the beatings must be
light and must not make her face ugly. He must beat her where it will
not leave marks. He should not beat her on the hand... He should beat
her in some places where it will not cause any damage. He should not
beat her like he would beat an animal or a child - slapping them right
and left. Unfortunately, many husbands beat their wives only when they
get mad, and when they start beating, it as if they are punching a
wall - they beat with their hands, right and left, and sometimes use
their feet. ... He must not do this."

The cleric also beats his own meat.
.

User: "=?iso-8859-1?q?Gwyne=F0_Bennetdottir?="

Title: Re: Wife-beating made simple 08 Nov 2007 04:27:23 AM
On Nov 7, 11:27 pm, J Young <younginsig...@aol.com> wrote:

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58547

Wife-beating made simple

"Everything about Young is patently absurd." - John Baker, 5
November 2007.
.

User: "Pr0r3p"

Title: Re: Wife-beating made simple 08 Nov 2007 09:12:28 AM
On Nov 8, 12:27 am, J Young <younginsig...@aol.com> wrote:

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58547

Wife-beating made simple

Oh look, Worldnut Daily has an article on how to beat your wife.
Yes, folks, welcome to kkkristianity.
<snip>
.

User: "=?iso-8859-1?q?Gwyne=F0_Bennetdottir?="

Title: Re: Wife-beating made simple 08 Nov 2007 08:26:49 AM
On Nov 8, 12:27?am, J Young <younginsig...@aol.com> wrote:

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58547

Wife-beating made simple

Saudi cleric teaches fine points of how to 'discipline' women

A religious leader in Saudi Arabia has provided instructions to young
Muslims about how to deliver a beating to their wives, saying, "the
beatings must be light and must not make her face ugly. He must beat
her where it will not leave marks."

The report comes from the Middle East Media Research Institute, which
monitors media reports throughout the Middle East.

The Saudi cleric, Muhammad Al-'Arifi, said on the video captured from
LBC Television by MEMRI, "Men beat women more often than women beat
men. I said that some women beat their husbands because this happens,
but it is rare, and there is no need to hold conferences on wives who
beat their husbands.

"Allah created women with these delicate, fragile, supple, and soft
bodies, because they use their emotions more than they use their
bodies. Therefore, while the man may use beating to discipline his
wife, she sometimes uses her tears to discipline him. He gets what he
wants by screaming, while she gets what she wants from him by crying
and displaying emotions. For men, women's emotions may be fiercer than
the strike of a sword," the cleric said.

MEMRI, which has a web page dedicated to video clips on the rights and
wrongs of beatings, said the cleric reported two options before the
beatings.

"First, 'admonish them' - once, twice, three times, four times, 10
times. If this doesn't help, 'refuse to share their beds.' In such a
case, the husband does not sleep with his wife, or, in other words, he
is angry with her. He gives her the silent treatment, refusing to talk
to her. If he comes to eat, and she asks him: 'How are you?' - he
doesn't answer. If she asks him: 'Do you want anything?' - he doesn't
answer. He distances himself from her in bed and in conversation; he
does not sleep with her, but goes to sleep in another room. He shows
her that he is angry with her," the cleric said.

"Then, he added, "If this does not help - if the admonishing does no
good, and when he goes to sleep in another room, she says: 'Thank God
he's gone. Now I've got the whole bed to myself, I will sleep alone in
bed and roll over at night as much as I like.' If neither method works
with her, what is the third option?"

The video shows a guest saying, "And beat them."

"That's right," said Al-'Arifi, "How is this beating performed? What
do you think?"

"Light beatings," the guest said.

"Light beatings in what way?" Al-'Arifi asked.

"For example, I wouldn't beat her in the face...," the guest said.

The cleric said such beatings are forbidden, "even when it comes to
animals.

"When a person is beating an animal ... Even if you want your camel or
donkey to start walking, you are not allowed to beat it in the face.
If this is true for animals, it is all the more true when it comes to
humans. So beatings should be light and not in the face," the cleric
said.

He continued, "Some religious scholars say: 'He should beat her with a
toothpick.' I happen to have a toothpick with me. A man who is angry
with his wife because she doesn't get it... If he says to her: 'Watch
out, the child has fallen next to the stove,' or: 'Move the child away
from the electrical socket,' and she says: 'I am busy' - then he beats
her with a toothpick or something like it. He doesn't beat her with a
bottle of water, a plate, or a knife. This is forbidden. The scholars
said he should beat her with a toothpick."

The cleric told the young Muslims beating a wife "is not to inflict
pain. ... A donkey understands nothing but beatings, but a woman, a man,
a child, and so on, are generally more affected by emotions than by
others things."

"If you beat her with a toothpick, or if you beat her lightly with
your hand, and so on, it is meant to convey: 'Woman, it has gone too
far. I can't bear it anymore.' If he beats her, the beatings must be
light and must not make her face ugly. He must beat her where it will
not leave marks. He should not beat her on the hand... He should beat
her in some places where it will not cause any damage. He should not
beat her like he would beat an animal or a child - slapping them right
and left. Unfortunately, many husbands beat their wives only when they
get mad, and when they start beating, it as if they are punching a
wall - they beat with their hands, right and left, and sometimes use
their feet. ... He must not do this."

I realize that a woman should listen to her husband at all times
but a do not like getting beat. If they would just listen and obey
it would be harmony.
.

User: "Colonel Sanders"

Title: Re: Wife-beating made simple 08 Nov 2007 12:08:26 AM
On Nov 8, 3:27 pm, J Young <younginsig...@aol.com> wrote:

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58547

Wife-beating made simple

Saudi cleric teaches fine points of how to 'discipline' women

A religious leader in Saudi Arabia has provided instructions to young
Muslims about how to deliver a beating to their wives, saying, "the
beatings must be light and must not make her face ugly. He must beat
her where it will not leave marks."

The report comes from the Middle East Media Research Institute, which
monitors media reports throughout the Middle East.

The Saudi cleric, Muhammad Al-'Arifi, said on the video captured from
LBC Television by MEMRI, "Men beat women more often than women beat
men. I said that some women beat their husbands because this happens,
but it is rare, and there is no need to hold conferences on wives who
beat their husbands.

"Allah created women with these delicate, fragile, supple, and soft
bodies, because they use their emotions more than they use their
bodies. Therefore, while the man may use beating to discipline his
wife, she sometimes uses her tears to discipline him. He gets what he
wants by screaming, while she gets what she wants from him by crying
and displaying emotions. For men, women's emotions may be fiercer than
the strike of a sword," the cleric said.

MEMRI, which has a web page dedicated to video clips on the rights and
wrongs of beatings, said the cleric reported two options before the
beatings.

"First, 'admonish them' - once, twice, three times, four times, 10
times. If this doesn't help, 'refuse to share their beds.' In such a
case, the husband does not sleep with his wife, or, in other words, he
is angry with her. He gives her the silent treatment, refusing to talk
to her. If he comes to eat, and she asks him: 'How are you?' - he
doesn't answer. If she asks him: 'Do you want anything?' - he doesn't
answer. He distances himself from her in bed and in conversation; he
does not sleep with her, but goes to sleep in another room. He shows
her that he is angry with her," the cleric said.

"Then, he added, "If this does not help - if the admonishing does no
good, and when he goes to sleep in another room, she says: 'Thank God
he's gone. Now I've got the whole bed to myself, I will sleep alone in
bed and roll over at night as much as I like.' If neither method works
with her, what is the third option?"

The video shows a guest saying, "And beat them."

"That's right," said Al-'Arifi, "How is this beating performed? What
do you think?"

"Light beatings," the guest said.

"Light beatings in what way?" Al-'Arifi asked.

"For example, I wouldn't beat her in the face...," the guest said.

The cleric said such beatings are forbidden, "even when it comes to
animals.

"When a person is beating an animal ... Even if you want your camel or
donkey to start walking, you are not allowed to beat it in the face.
If this is true for animals, it is all the more true when it comes to
humans. So beatings should be light and not in the face," the cleric
said.

He continued, "Some religious scholars say: 'He should beat her with a
toothpick.' I happen to have a toothpick with me. A man who is angry
with his wife because she doesn't get it... If he says to her: 'Watch
out, the child has fallen next to the stove,' or: 'Move the child away
from the electrical socket,' and she says: 'I am busy' - then he beats
her with a toothpick or something like it. He doesn't beat her with a
bottle of water, a plate, or a knife. This is forbidden. The scholars
said he should beat her with a toothpick."

The cleric told the young Muslims beating a wife "is not to inflict
pain. ... A donkey understands nothing but beatings, but a woman, a man,
a child, and so on, are generally more affected by emotions than by
others things."

"If you beat her with a toothpick, or if you beat her lightly with
your hand, and so on, it is meant to convey: 'Woman, it has gone too
far. I can't bear it anymore.' If he beats her, the beatings must be
light and must not make her face ugly. He must beat her where it will
not leave marks. He should not beat her on the hand... He should beat
her in some places where it will not cause any damage. He should not
beat her like he would beat an animal or a child - slapping them right
and left. Unfortunately, many husbands beat their wives only when they
get mad, and when they start beating, it as if they are punching a
wall - they beat with their hands, right and left, and sometimes use
their feet. ... He must not do this."

Funny post.
Get her - before she gets you!:)
Where can we attend the seminar? - Is the booklet available?:)
Watch out for the Feminazis with that post!
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Wife-beating made simple 08 Nov 2007 12:44:35 AM
On 8 nov, 07:08, Colonel Sanders <themail...@unwired.com.au> wrote:

On Nov 8, 3:27 pm, J Young <younginsig...@aol.com> wrote:





http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58547


Wife-beating made simple


Saudi cleric teaches fine points of how to 'discipline' women


A religious leader in Saudi Arabia has provided instructions to young
Muslims about how to deliver a beating to their wives, saying, "the
beatings must be light and must not make her face ugly. He must beat
her where it will not leave marks."


The report comes from the Middle East Media Research Institute, which
monitors media reports throughout the Middle East.


The Saudi cleric, Muhammad Al-'Arifi, said on the video captured from
LBC Television by MEMRI, "Men beat women more often than women beat
men. I said that some women beat their husbands because this happens,
but it is rare, and there is no need to hold conferences on wives who
beat their husbands.


"Allah created women with these delicate, fragile, supple, and soft
bodies, because they use their emotions more than they use their
bodies. Therefore, while the man may use beating to discipline his
wife, she sometimes uses her tears to discipline him. He gets what he
wants by screaming, while she gets what she wants from him by crying
and displaying emotions. For men, women's emotions may be fiercer than
the strike of a sword," the cleric said.


MEMRI, which has a web page dedicated to video clips on the rights and
wrongs of beatings, said the cleric reported two options before the
beatings.


"First, 'admonish them' - once, twice, three times, four times, 10
times. If this doesn't help, 'refuse to share their beds.' In such a
case, the husband does not sleep with his wife, or, in other words, he
is angry with her. He gives her the silent treatment, refusing to talk
to her. If he comes to eat, and she asks him: 'How are you?' - he
doesn't answer. If she asks him: 'Do you want anything?' - he doesn't
answer. He distances himself from her in bed and in conversation; he
does not sleep with her, but goes to sleep in another room. He shows
her that he is angry with her," the cleric said.


"Then, he added, "If this does not help - if the admonishing does no
good, and when he goes to sleep in another room, she says: 'Thank God
he's gone. Now I've got the whole bed to myself, I will sleep alone in
bed and roll over at night as much as I like.' If neither method works
with her, what is the third option?"


The video shows a guest saying, "And beat them."


"That's right," said Al-'Arifi, "How is this beating performed? What
do you think?"


"Light beatings," the guest said.


"Light beatings in what way?" Al-'Arifi asked.


"For example, I wouldn't beat her in the face...," the guest said.


The cleric said such beatings are forbidden, "even when it comes to
animals.


"When a person is beating an animal ... Even if you want your camel or
donkey to start walking, you are not allowed to beat it in the face.
If this is true for animals, it is all the more true when it comes to
humans. So beatings should be light and not in the face," the cleric
said.


He continued, "Some religious scholars say: 'He should beat her with a
toothpick.' I happen to have a toothpick with me. A man who is angry
with his wife because she doesn't get it... If he says to her: 'Watch
out, the child has fallen next to the stove,' or: 'Move the child away
from the electrical socket,' and she says: 'I am busy' - then he beats
her with a toothpick or something like it. He doesn't beat her with a
bottle of water, a plate, or a knife. This is forbidden. The scholars
said he should beat her with a toothpick."


The cleric told the young Muslims beating a wife "is not to inflict
pain. ... A donkey understands nothing but beatings, but a woman, a man,
a child, and so on, are generally more affected by emotions than by
others things."


"If you beat her with a toothpick, or if you beat her lightly with
your hand, and so on, it is meant to convey: 'Woman, it has gone too
far. I can't bear it anymore.' If he beats her, the beatings must be
light and must not make her face ugly. He must beat her where it will
not leave marks. He should not beat her on the hand... He should beat
her in some places where it will not cause any damage. He should not
beat her like he would beat an animal or a child - slapping them right
and left. Unfortunately, many husbands beat their wives only when they
get mad, and when they start beating, it as if they are punching a
wall - they beat with their hands, right and left, and sometimes use
their feet. ... He must not do this."


Funny post.

Get her - before she gets you!:)

Where can we attend the seminar? - Is the booklet available?:)

Watch out for the Feminazis with that post!-

It's more interesting to watch morons like you thinking that jokes
about beating women are funny.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Wife-beating made simple 08 Nov 2007 01:16:12 AM
On 8-Nov-2007,
wrote:

"If you beat her with a toothpick, or if you beat her lightly with
your hand, and so on, it is meant to convey: 'Woman, it has gone too
far. I can't bear it anymore.' If he beats her, the beatings must be
light and must not make her face ugly. He must beat her where it will
not leave marks. He should not beat her on the hand... He should beat
her in some places where it will not cause any damage. He should not
beat her like he would beat an animal or a child - slapping them right
and left. Unfortunately, many husbands beat their wives only when they
get mad, and when they start beating, it as if they are punching a
wall - they beat with their hands, right and left, and sometimes use
their feet. ... He must not do this."


Funny post.

Get her - before she gets you!:)

Where can we attend the seminar? - Is the booklet available?:)

Watch out for the Feminazis with that post!-


It's more interesting to watch morons like you thinking that jokes
about beating women are funny.

It takes a real sick loser to call someone a nazi for not wanting
to be beaten. Aren't these the guys who insist that more women
beat men than vice versa? & they don't like it?
Guess that makes them Masculinazis.
good grief....
Susan
.
User: "Brian E. Clark"

Title: Re: Wife-beating made simple 08 Nov 2007 01:09:58 PM
In article <0JyYi.5984$3j7.5765@trnddc02>, said...

It takes a real sick loser to call someone a nazi for not wanting
to be beaten. Aren't these the guys who insist that more women
beat men than vice versa? & they don't like it?
Guess that makes them Masculinazis.

"Masculinazi" feels a bit clumsy rolling off the
tongue. Why not use the other prefix for "man" and
call them "homonazis"? :)
--
-----------
Brian E. Clark
.

User: "Grizzlie Antagonist"

Title: Re: Wife-beating made simple 08 Nov 2007 01:49:40 AM
On Nov 7, 11:16 pm,
wrote:

On 8-Nov-2007,

wrote:





"If you beat her with a toothpick, or if you beat her lightly with
your hand, and so on, it is meant to convey: 'Woman, it has gone too
far. I can't bear it anymore.' If he beats her, the beatings must be
light and must not make her face ugly. He must beat her where it will
not leave marks. He should not beat her on the hand... He should beat
her in some places where it will not cause any damage. He should not
beat her like he would beat an animal or a child - slapping them right
and left. Unfortunately, many husbands beat their wives only when they
get mad, and when they start beating, it as if they are punching a
wall - they beat with their hands, right and left, and sometimes use
their feet. ... He must not do this."


Funny post.


Get her - before she gets you!:)


Where can we attend the seminar? - Is the booklet available?:)


Watch out for the Feminazis with that post!-


It's more interesting to watch morons like you thinking that jokes
about beating women are funny.


It takes a real sick loser to call someone a nazi for not wanting
to be beaten. Aren't these the guys who insist that more women
beat men than vice versa? & they don't like it?
Guess that makes them Masculinazis.

good grief....

Susan

You're such a *****!
Why do you have behave like such a stick-in-the-mud?
.

User: "Grizzlie Antagonist"

Title: Re: Wife-beating made simple 08 Nov 2007 08:58:56 AM
On Nov 7, 11:16 pm,
wrote:

On 8-Nov-2007,

wrote:





"If you beat her with a toothpick, or if you beat her lightly with
your hand, and so on, it is meant to convey: 'Woman, it has gone too
far. I can't bear it anymore.' If he beats her, the beatings must be
light and must not make her face ugly. He must beat her where it will
not leave marks. He should not beat her on the hand... He should beat
her in some places where it will not cause any damage. He should not
beat her like he would beat an animal or a child - slapping them right
and left. Unfortunately, many husbands beat their wives only when they
get mad, and when they start beating, it as if they are punching a
wall - they beat with their hands, right and left, and sometimes use
their feet. ... He must not do this."


Funny post.


Get her - before she gets you!:)


Where can we attend the seminar? - Is the booklet available?:)


Watch out for the Feminazis with that post!-


It's more interesting to watch morons like you thinking that jokes
about beating women are funny.


It takes a real sick loser to call someone a nazi for not wanting
to be beaten. Aren't these the guys who insist that more women
beat men than vice versa? & they don't like it?
Guess that makes them Masculinazis.

good grief....

Susan

You're such a *****!
Why do you have behave like such a stick-in-the-mud?
.
User: "james g. keegan jr."

Title: Re: Wife-beating made simple 09 Nov 2007 04:05:56 PM
In article <1194508239.873910.208260@t8g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
Grizzlie Antagonist <lloydsofhanford@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Nov 7, 11:16 pm,

wrote:

It takes a real sick loser to call someone a nazi for not wanting
to be beaten. Aren't these the guys who insist that more women
beat men than vice versa? & they don't like it?
Guess that makes them Masculinazis.

good grief....


You're such a *****!
Why do you have behave like such a stick-in-the-mud?

are you on the beaten or beater side of the equation, sicko?
.
User: "Grizzlie Antagonist"

Title: Re: Wife-beating made simple 09 Nov 2007 09:16:02 PM
On Nov 9, 2:05 pm, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:

In article <1194508239.873910.208...@t8g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
Grizzlie Antagonist <lloydsofhanf...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Nov 7, 11:16 pm,

wrote:

It takes a real sick loser to call someone a nazi for not wanting
to be beaten. Aren't these the guys who insist that more women
beat men than vice versa? & they don't like it?
Guess that makes them Masculinazis.


good grief....


You're such a *****!
Why do you have behave like such a stick-in-the-mud?


are you on the beaten or beater side of the equation, sicko?

You're no fun either, james g. keegan, jr. Turning this into a
homework assignment in math -- sheesh!
.
User: "james g. keegan jr."

Title: Re: Wife-beating made simple 09 Nov 2007 09:57:11 PM
In article <1194664562.564663.51440@y27g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,
Grizzlie Antagonist <lloydsofhanford@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Nov 9, 2:05 pm, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:

In article <1194508239.873910.208...@t8g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
Grizzlie Antagonist <lloydsofhanf...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Nov 7, 11:16 pm,

wrote:

It takes a real sick loser to call someone a nazi for not wanting
to be beaten. Aren't these the guys who insist that more women
beat men than vice versa? & they don't like it?
Guess that makes them Masculinazis.


good grief....


You're such a *****!
Why do you have behave like such a stick-in-the-mud?


are you on the beaten or beater side of the equation, sicko?


You're no fun either, james g. keegan, jr. Turning this into a
homework assignment in math -- sheesh!

i get the idea you'd rather be slapping women around than doing math.
.
User: "Grizzlie Antagonist"

Title: Re: Wife-beating made simple 09 Nov 2007 10:06:13 PM
On Nov 9, 7:57 pm, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:

In article <1194664562.564663.51...@y27g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,
Grizzlie Antagonist <lloydsofhanf...@yahoo.com> wrote:





On Nov 9, 2:05 pm, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:

In article <1194508239.873910.208...@t8g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
Grizzlie Antagonist <lloydsofhanf...@yahoo.com> wrote:


On Nov 7, 11:16 pm,

wrote:

It takes a real sick loser to call someone a nazi for not wanting
to be beaten. Aren't these the guys who insist that more women
beat men than vice versa? & they don't like it?
Guess that makes them Masculinazis.


good grief....


You're such a *****!
Why do you have behave like such a stick-in-the-mud?


are you on the beaten or beater side of the equation, sicko?


You're no fun either, james g. keegan, jr. Turning this into a
homework assignment in math -- sheesh!


i get the idea you'd rather be slapping women around than doing math.

Wouldn't everyone?
.
User: "james g. keegan jr."

Title: Re: Wife-beating made simple 10 Nov 2007 08:01:54 AM
In article <1194667573.131926.79430@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Grizzlie Antagonist <lloydsofhanford@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Nov 9, 7:57 pm, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:

In article <1194664562.564663.51...@y27g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,
Grizzlie Antagonist <lloydsofhanf...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Nov 9, 2:05 pm, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:

In article <1194508239.873910.208...@t8g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
Grizzlie Antagonist <lloydsofhanf...@yahoo.com> wrote:


On Nov 7, 11:16 pm,

wrote:

It takes a real sick loser to call someone a nazi for not wanting
to be beaten. Aren't these the guys who insist that more women
beat men than vice versa? & they don't like it?
Guess that makes them Masculinazis.


good grief....


You're such a *****!
Why do you have behave like such a stick-in-the-mud?


are you on the beaten or beater side of the equation, sicko?


You're no fun either, james g. keegan, jr. Turning this into a
homework assignment in math -- sheesh!


i get the idea you'd rather be slapping women around than doing math.


Wouldn't everyone?

you have created that impression of yourself.
.










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