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07 Oct 2006 08:56:02 PM |
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Woman dedicates her virginity to Jesus |
This blessed lady can stand as an inspiration for all the young ladies who
value their virtue and chastity
http://www.theconservativevoice.com/ap/article.html?mi=D8KK07IO0&apc=9001
She stood at the altar in a white gown and veil, but she was there for no
earthly man. Lori Rose Cannizzaro was dedicating her virginity to Jesus.
Saturday's rare Catholic ceremony, one her own pastor didn't know existed,
turned the 42-year-old into a "consecrated virgin." Fewer than 200 women in
the United States and 2,000 worldwide have declared their perpetual
virginity this way, according to U.S. Association of Consecrated Virgins.
"There are people who think I'm nuts," Cannizzaro said.
The ceremony was a revival of one of the church's oldest rituals.
The rite is available only to virgins, who agree to abstain from sex so they
can dedicate their lives to Jesus Christ in what the association describes
as a mystical marriage and a profound spiritual blessing. Each woman wears a
band on her left ring finger as a symbol, much like a wedding band.
Cannizzaro, who is not a nun, will continue to live on her own and work as a
cook at Christ the King Seminary in a Buffalo suburb.
She said she has plenty of support from family and friends.
"It is a good and holy thing to want to be in a virginal state," she said.
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07 Oct 2006 11:10:59 PM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:wvudnWNsLd-_xrXYnZ2dnUVZ_rOdnZ2d@giganews.com...
This blessed lady can stand as an inspiration for all the young ladies who
value their virtue and chastity
If 'God' decides to have supernatural sex with her like he did with 'Mary',
the mother of Jesus and himself ('playing' Jesus), will she *still* remain a
'vigin' and 'chaste'?
Greywolf
http://www.theconservativevoice.com/ap/article.html?mi=D8KK07IO0&apc=9001
She stood at the altar in a white gown and veil, but she was there for no
earthly man. Lori Rose Cannizzaro was dedicating her virginity to Jesus.
Saturday's rare Catholic ceremony, one her own pastor didn't know existed,
turned the 42-year-old into a "consecrated virgin." Fewer than 200 women
in
the United States and 2,000 worldwide have declared their perpetual
virginity this way, according to U.S. Association of Consecrated Virgins.
"There are people who think I'm nuts," Cannizzaro said.
The ceremony was a revival of one of the church's oldest rituals.
The rite is available only to virgins, who agree to abstain from sex so
they
can dedicate their lives to Jesus Christ in what the association describes
as a mystical marriage and a profound spiritual blessing. Each woman wears
a
band on her left ring finger as a symbol, much like a wedding band.
Cannizzaro, who is not a nun, will continue to live on her own and work as
a
cook at Christ the King Seminary in a Buffalo suburb.
She said she has plenty of support from family and friends.
"It is a good and holy thing to want to be in a virginal state," she said.
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J Yöung
youngopinions@aol.com
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08 Oct 2006 12:52:27 AM |
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"Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com> wrote in message
If 'God' decides to have supernatural sex with her like he did with
'Mary', the mother of Jesus and himself ('playing' Jesus), will she
*still* remain a 'vigin' and 'chaste'?
Yes. Mary remained a virgin despite giving birth to Jesus.
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08 Oct 2006 01:39:39 AM |
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"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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"Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com> wrote in message
If 'God' decides to have supernatural sex with her like he did with
'Mary', the mother of Jesus and himself ('playing' Jesus), will she
*still* remain a 'vigin' and 'chaste'?
Yes. Mary remained a virgin despite giving birth to Jesus.
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www.personal.leeds.ac.uk/~bgy1mm
freeware games to download.
How could you *possibly* know this to be 'fact'? Wouldn't you rather say 'My
'faith' and my religion tell me that this ostensibly ridiculous and
preposterous notion is nevertheless 'true', instead?
Greywolf
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| User: "Malcolm" |
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08 Oct 2006 03:59:37 AM |
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"Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com> wrote in message
"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote in message
"Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com> wrote in message
If 'God' decides to have supernatural sex with her like he did with
'Mary', the mother of Jesus and himself ('playing' Jesus), will she
*still* remain a 'vigin' and 'chaste'?
Yes. Mary remained a virgin despite giving birth to Jesus.
How could you *possibly* know this to be 'fact'? Wouldn't you rather say
'My 'faith' and my religion tell me that this ostensibly ridiculous and
preposterous notion is nevertheless 'true', instead?
It follows from theology.
Sexual intercourse is corrupting. All humans know that, which is why every
language has vulgar words for the act.
The mother of God cannot be defiled and God's honour remain intact. Ergo,
Mary remained a virgin.
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freeware games to download.
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| User: "pandora" |
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08 Oct 2006 04:13:33 PM |
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"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:rKqdneX4m59mILXYRVnyvQ@bt.com...
"Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com> wrote in message
"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote in message
"Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com> wrote in message
If 'God' decides to have supernatural sex with her like he did with
'Mary', the mother of Jesus and himself ('playing' Jesus), will she
*still* remain a 'vigin' and 'chaste'?
Yes. Mary remained a virgin despite giving birth to Jesus.
How could you *possibly* know this to be 'fact'? Wouldn't you rather say
'My 'faith' and my religion tell me that this ostensibly ridiculous and
preposterous notion is nevertheless 'true', instead?
It follows from theology.
Sexual intercourse is corrupting. All humans know that, which is why every
language has vulgar words for the act.
The mother of God cannot be defiled and God's honour remain intact. Ergo,
Mary remained a virgin.
Bull puckies. Mary was representative of the Pagan Goddess and hence cannot
be defiled. Well, it works as well for me as your *theory* does. (In other
words, not at all.)
CWQ
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10 Oct 2006 04:11:04 PM |
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"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:rKqdneX4m59mILXYRVnyvQ@bt.com...
"Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com> wrote in message
"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote in message
"Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com> wrote in message
If 'God' decides to have supernatural sex with her like he did with
'Mary', the mother of Jesus and himself ('playing' Jesus), will she
*still* remain a 'vigin' and 'chaste'?
Yes. Mary remained a virgin despite giving birth to Jesus.
How could you *possibly* know this to be 'fact'? Wouldn't you rather say
'My 'faith' and my religion tell me that this ostensibly ridiculous and
preposterous notion is nevertheless 'true', instead?
It follows from theology.
Sexual intercourse is corrupting. All humans know that, which is why every
language has vulgar words for the act.
Sexual intercourse is corrupting? Could you explain to me, Malcolm, how my
husband and I have been corrupted, because in our 48 years of marriage we
have had sexual intercourse a time or two (gasp! horror!)
The mother of God cannot be defiled and God's honour remain intact. Ergo,
Mary remained a virgin.
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June G
# 364
http://uk.geocities.com/junegill@btopenworld.com/webpages/index.html.html
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| User: "stoney" |
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12 Oct 2006 01:27:14 PM |
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On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 22:11:04 +0100, "junegill" <junegill@btinternet.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:rKqdneX4m59mILXYRVnyvQ@bt.com...
"Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com> wrote in message
"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote in message
"Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com> wrote in message
If 'God' decides to have supernatural sex with her like he did with
'Mary', the mother of Jesus and himself ('playing' Jesus), will she
*still* remain a 'vigin' and 'chaste'?
Yes. Mary remained a virgin despite giving birth to Jesus.
How could you *possibly* know this to be 'fact'? Wouldn't you rather say
'My 'faith' and my religion tell me that this ostensibly ridiculous and
preposterous notion is nevertheless 'true', instead?
It follows from theology.
Sexual intercourse is corrupting. All humans know that, which is why every
language has vulgar words for the act.
Sexual intercourse is corrupting? Could you explain to me, Malcolm, how my
husband and I have been corrupted, because in our 48 years of marriage we
have had sexual intercourse a time or two (gasp! horror!)
Malcolm's meds really need to be boosted.
The mother of God cannot be defiled and God's honour remain intact. Ergo,
Mary remained a virgin.
Malcolm remains a fucking moron without two functioning neurons to rub
together.
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Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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12 Oct 2006 03:20:58 PM |
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"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message news:
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 22:11:04 +0100, "junegill" <junegill@btinternet.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote in message
Sexual intercourse is corrupting? Could you explain to me, Malcolm, how
my
husband and I have been corrupted, because in our 48 years of marriage we
have had sexual intercourse a time or two (gasp! horror!)
Malcolm's meds really need to be boosted.
The mother of God cannot be defiled and God's honour remain intact.
Ergo,
Mary remained a virgin.
Malcolm remains a fucking moron without two functioning neurons to rub
^^^^^^^
together.
So you agree that sexual intercourse is corrupting?
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freeware games to download.
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| User: "junegill" |
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14 Oct 2006 12:12:01 AM |
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Malcolm, I sent this to your email address by mistake earlier on - apologies
for this.
"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message news:
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 22:11:04 +0100, "junegill" <junegill@btinternet.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote in message
Sexual intercourse is corrupting? Could you explain to me, Malcolm, how
my
husband and I have been corrupted, because in our 48 years of marriage we
have had sexual intercourse a time or two (gasp! horror!)
Malcolm's meds really need to be boosted.
The mother of God cannot be defiled and God's honour remain intact.
Ergo,
Mary remained a virgin.
Malcolm remains a fucking moron without two functioning neurons to rub
^^^^^^^
together.
So you agree that sexual intercourse is corrupting?
I don't know how you came to that conclusion from Stoney's post ... and you
still haven't told me how my husband and I have been corrupted.
--
June G
# 364
http://uk.geocities.com/junegill@btopenworld.com/webpages/index.html.html
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| User: "Malcolm" |
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14 Oct 2006 02:28:28 AM |
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"junegill" <junegill@btinternet.com> wrote in message ..
Malcolm, I sent this to your email address by mistake earlier on -
apologies for this.
"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote in message
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message news:
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 22:11:04 +0100, "junegill" <junegill@btinternet.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote in message
Sexual intercourse is corrupting? Could you explain to me, Malcolm, how
my
husband and I have been corrupted, because in our 48 years of marriage
we
have had sexual intercourse a time or two (gasp! horror!)
Malcolm's meds really need to be boosted.
The mother of God cannot be defiled and God's honour remain intact.
Ergo,
Mary remained a virgin.
Malcolm remains a fucking moron without two functioning neurons to rub
^^^^^^^
together.
So you agree that sexual intercourse is corrupting?
I don't know how you came to that conclusion from Stoney's post ... and
you
still haven't told me how my husband and I have been corrupted.
Do you understand that is you use a sexual expletive in a post claiming that
anyone who thinks sexual intercourse is corrupting is a moron, then you've
rather shot your argument in the foot.
Have you ever used the f word or the c word?
If not, are you embarassed by such words?
If so, you can at least agree that there is great deal of plausiblity to the
idea that sexual intercourse is corrupting.
--
www.personal.leeds.ac.uk/~bgy1mm
freeware games to download.
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| User: "junegill" |
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14 Oct 2006 10:15:22 AM |
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"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:c-mdnUDUpLEJDK3YnZ2dnUVZ8tGdnZ2d@bt.com...
"junegill" <junegill@btinternet.com> wrote in message ..
Malcolm, I sent this to your email address by mistake earlier on -
apologies for this.
"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote in message
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message news:
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 22:11:04 +0100, "junegill"
<junegill@btinternet.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote in message
Sexual intercourse is corrupting? Could you explain to me, Malcolm,
how my
husband and I have been corrupted, because in our 48 years of marriage
we
have had sexual intercourse a time or two (gasp! horror!)
Malcolm's meds really need to be boosted.
The mother of God cannot be defiled and God's honour remain intact.
Ergo,
Mary remained a virgin.
Malcolm remains a fucking moron without two functioning neurons to rub
^^^^^^^
together.
So you agree that sexual intercourse is corrupting?
I don't know how you came to that conclusion from Stoney's post ... and
you
still haven't told me how my husband and I have been corrupted.
Do you understand that is you use a sexual expletive in a post claiming
that anyone who thinks sexual intercourse is corrupting is a moron, then
you've rather shot your argument in the foot.
Oh, I see what you mean.
Have you ever used the f word or the c word?
If not, are you embarassed by such words?
No and no.
If so, you can at least agree that there is great deal of plausiblity to
the idea that sexual intercourse is corrupting.
No, actually - I think it's snobbery that is corrupting. These 'offensive'
four-letter words were in common use by the Anglo-Saxons. When the Normans
invaded Britain, French became the language of the court and social
climbers, who didn't have a good command of that language, tried to emulate
the aristocrats by dropping Anglo-Saxon words from their vocabulary, hence
it became a snob thing to use euphemisms. Are other bodily functions such
as urinating and defaecating also corrupting because there are Anglo-Saxon
words to describe them, or is it just that these functions involve the
genital area as does sex? And is that how the Old English word 'snot'
escaped being categorised as offensive, since the genitals aren't involved?
Already there are many people who will avoid that word, preferring 'mucus'
instead - we'll have to be careful, otherwise a common cold might be
regarded as corrupting!
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June G
# 364
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15 Oct 2006 12:13:01 AM |
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Malcolm wrote:
Have you ever used the f word or the c word?
Yes. So what?
If not, are you embarassed by such words?
No, why should I be?
If so, you can at least agree that there is great deal of plausiblity to the
idea that sexual intercourse is corrupting.
No, unplanned pregnancy is corrupting, and rank superstitions that
prohibit contraception are corrupting. Consensual sex is morally neutral.
Freethinker,
Jaime G
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Si mi tía tuviera ruedas sería una bicicleta.
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14 Oct 2006 04:59:23 AM |
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Malcolm wrote:
Do you understand that is you use a sexual expletive in a post claiming that
anyone who thinks sexual intercourse is corrupting is a moron, then you've
rather shot your argument in the foot.
Have you ever used the f word or the c word?
If not, are you embarassed by such words?
Fucking is no more corrupting than shitting. How's that?
(Do I HAVE to use the "c" word also? Or is "fucking" and "shitting"
enough to prove my corruption?)
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08 Oct 2006 10:09:58 AM |
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"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:rKqdneX4m59mILXYRVnyvQ@bt.com...
"Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com> wrote in message
"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote in message
"Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com> wrote in message
If 'God' decides to have supernatural sex with her like he did with
'Mary', the mother of Jesus and himself ('playing' Jesus), will she
*still* remain a 'vigin' and 'chaste'?
Yes. Mary remained a virgin despite giving birth to Jesus.
How could you *possibly* know this to be 'fact'? Wouldn't you rather say
'My 'faith' and my religion tell me that this ostensibly ridiculous and
preposterous notion is nevertheless 'true', instead?
It follows from theology.
Sexual intercourse is corrupting. All humans know that, which is why every
language has vulgar words for the act.
The mother of God cannot be defiled and God's honour remain intact. Ergo,
Mary remained a virgin.
Well Malcolm,
Mary was and remained a virgin.
Thousands of Nuns are virgins.
But your statement that Sexual intercourse is corrupting could not be
further from the truth.
Sex is part of God's creation.
He told us to have Sex and multiply.
He blesses marriage which keeps the bedroom pure and undefiled. ( Or the
Kitchen table if you like)
Mary's virginity and sex in marriage are two unrelated issues.
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www.personal.leeds.ac.uk/~bgy1mm
freeware games to download.
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08 Oct 2006 12:34:31 PM |
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"H Dickmann" <HERPEM@bigpond.com> wrote in message
Well Malcolm,
Mary was and remained a virgin.
Thousands of Nuns are virgins.
But your statement that Sexual intercourse is corrupting could not be
further from the truth.
Sex is part of God's creation.
He told us to have Sex and multiply.
He blesses marriage which keeps the bedroom pure and undefiled. ( Or the
Kitchen table if you like)
Mary's virginity and sex in marriage are two unrelated issues.
Sex is part of God's creation, and a gift from God.
It is also corrupting.
This a profound mystery.
Since marriage is currently under attack by the propnents of licentousness,
your views are not too bad as an approximation to Catholic teaching, but
they miss the central psychological reality. "I saw I was naked, and was
ashamed".
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freeware games to download.
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08 Oct 2006 02:30:18 PM |
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"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote in
news:g5mdnfqcANM0q7TYRVnysA@bt.com:
"H Dickmann" <HERPEM@bigpond.com> wrote in message
Well Malcolm,
Mary was and remained a virgin.
Thousands of Nuns are virgins.
But your statement that Sexual intercourse is corrupting could not be
further from the truth.
Sex is part of God's creation.
He told us to have Sex and multiply.
He blesses marriage which keeps the bedroom pure and undefiled. ( Or
the Kitchen table if you like)
Mary's virginity and sex in marriage are two unrelated issues.
Sex is part of God's creation, and a gift from God.
It is also corrupting.
This a profound mystery.
No, it's not a mystery. The profound mystery is that people willingly
believe such bilge.
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Doc Smartass
The basic tool for the manipulation of reality is the manipulation of
words. If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the
people who must use the words. - Philip K. *****
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08 Oct 2006 12:36:52 PM |
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In News g5mdnfqcANM0q7TYRVnysA@bt.com,, Malcolm at regniztar@btinternet.com,
typed this:
"H Dickmann" <HERPEM@bigpond.com> wrote in message
Well Malcolm,
Mary was and remained a virgin.
Thousands of Nuns are virgins.
But your statement that Sexual intercourse is corrupting could not be
further from the truth.
Sex is part of God's creation.
He told us to have Sex and multiply.
He blesses marriage which keeps the bedroom pure and undefiled. ( Or
the Kitchen table if you like)
Mary's virginity and sex in marriage are two unrelated issues.
Sex is part of God's creation, and a gift from God.
It is also corrupting.
So says another muddle headed moron with his head implated firmly up his
make believe deity's arse.
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Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. – Thomas Jefferson
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08 Oct 2006 01:15:22 PM |
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In article <g5mdnfqcANM0q7TYRVnysA@bt.com>,
"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote:
Sex is part of God's creation, and a gift from God.
It is also corrupting.
This a profound mystery.
No. The mystery is that people haven't shaken themselves free of these
delusions.
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655321
"Heed the message served with every Republican banquet speech -- that the
private interest precedes the public interest, that money is good for rich
people, bad for poor people -- and who can say that the war in Iraq has proven
to be anything other than the transformation of a godforsaken desert into a
defense contractor's Garden of Eden?" -- Lewis Lapham
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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08 Oct 2006 01:22:44 PM |
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In News DipthotDipthot-810A6D.11151708102006@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com,,
655321 at DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com, typed this:
In article <g5mdnfqcANM0q7TYRVnysA@bt.com>,
"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote:
Sex is part of God's creation, and a gift from God.
It is also corrupting.
This a profound mystery.
No. The mystery is that people haven't shaken themselves free of
these delusions.
It started with the plague in 1345 when the Catholic Church sequestered
itself away from the people it was supposed to serve. Priests refused to
give last rites, the Pope hid himself away in France. People's faith in the
church was shaken so badly that they would never trust the church as
unwaveringly as they did before the plague. This led to the Renaissance.
The time when people would start, albeit slowly, to think for themselves.
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Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. – Thomas Jefferson
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08 Oct 2006 01:17:54 PM |
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In article
<DipthotDipthot-810A6D.11151708102006@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com>,
655321 <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote:
In article <g5mdnfqcANM0q7TYRVnysA@bt.com>,
"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote:
Sex is part of God's creation, and a gift from God.
It is also corrupting.
This a profound mystery.
No. The mystery is that people haven't shaken themselves free of these
delusions.
Most have.
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| User: "Malcolm" |
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08 Oct 2006 01:21:08 PM |
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"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:081020061117548656%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article
<DipthotDipthot-810A6D.11151708102006@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com>,
655321 <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote:
In article <g5mdnfqcANM0q7TYRVnysA@bt.com>,
"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote:
Sex is part of God's creation, and a gift from God.
It is also corrupting.
This a profound mystery.
No. The mystery is that people haven't shaken themselves free of these
delusions.
Most have.
And say that sex is morally unproblematic unless you fail to use a condom.
And hit reality with a bump.
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08 Oct 2006 03:12:04 PM |
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In article <ks6dnbpHWLcI3LTYnZ2dnUVZ8s2dnZ2d@bt.com>,
"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:081020061117548656%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article
<DipthotDipthot-810A6D.11151708102006@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com>,
655321 <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote:
In article <g5mdnfqcANM0q7TYRVnysA@bt.com>,
"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote:
Sex is part of God's creation, and a gift from God.
It is also corrupting.
This a profound mystery.
No. The mystery is that people haven't shaken themselves free of these
delusions.
Most have.
And say that sex is morally unproblematic unless you fail to use a condom.
Simplistic propaganda.
And hit reality with a bump.
The "morality" of organized religion is corrupt, as is its grasp on
reality.
--
655321
"Heed the message served with every Republican banquet speech -- that the
private interest precedes the public interest, that money is good for rich
people, bad for poor people -- and who can say that the war in Iraq has proven
to be anything other than the transformation of a godforsaken desert into a
defense contractor's Garden of Eden?" -- Lewis Lapham
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08 Oct 2006 01:28:10 PM |
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In article <ks6dnbpHWLcI3LTYnZ2dnUVZ8s2dnZ2d@bt.com>, Malcolm
<regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:081020061117548656%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article
<DipthotDipthot-810A6D.11151708102006@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com>,
655321 <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote:
In article <g5mdnfqcANM0q7TYRVnysA@bt.com>,
"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote:
Sex is part of God's creation, and a gift from God.
It is also corrupting.
This a profound mystery.
No. The mystery is that people haven't shaken themselves free of these
delusions.
Most have.
And say that sex is morally unproblematic unless you fail to use a condom.
And hit reality with a bump.
Why is it the Christian Right are so obsessed with sex?
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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08 Oct 2006 03:04:14 PM |
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"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in
news:081020061128105626%dbarnes@aol.com:
In article <ks6dnbpHWLcI3LTYnZ2dnUVZ8s2dnZ2d@bt.com>, Malcolm
<regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:081020061117548656%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article
<DipthotDipthot-810A6D.11151708102006@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com>,
655321 <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote:
In article <g5mdnfqcANM0q7TYRVnysA@bt.com>,
"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote:
Sex is part of God's creation, and a gift from God.
It is also corrupting.
This a profound mystery.
No. The mystery is that people haven't shaken themselves free of
these delusions.
Most have.
And say that sex is morally unproblematic unless you fail to use a
condom. And hit reality with a bump.
Why is it the Christian Right are so obsessed with sex?
Given the predelictions of some of them (Neil "Donky Pumper" Horsley, Mark
"Gimme a Boyschlager" Foley, and Jimmy "Hey, Mrs. Prostitute, can I pay you
hundreds of dollars to screw your nine-year-old daughter?" Swaggart) one
has to wonder how many more of them are like this, because for ***** like
that, they're right.
--
Doc Smartass
The basic tool for the manipulation of reality is the manipulation of
words. If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people
who must use the words. - Philip K. *****
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| User: "Malcolm" |
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08 Oct 2006 02:45:56 PM |
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"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:081020061128105626%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <ks6dnbpHWLcI3LTYnZ2dnUVZ8s2dnZ2d@bt.com>, Malcolm
<regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:081020061117548656%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article
<DipthotDipthot-810A6D.11151708102006@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com>,
655321 <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote:
In article <g5mdnfqcANM0q7TYRVnysA@bt.com>,
"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote:
Sex is part of God's creation, and a gift from God.
It is also corrupting.
This a profound mystery.
No. The mystery is that people haven't shaken themselves free of
these
delusions.
Most have.
And say that sex is morally unproblematic unless you fail to use a
condom.
And hit reality with a bump.
Why is it the Christian Right are so obsessed with sex?
Humans naturally take a great interest in sexuality.
When you add that it is sexual ethics that Christian morality is being most
comprehensively challenged, you get a great deal of talk about sex.
Incidentally, I have never heard an "anti-promiscuity" sermon in a Catholic
church. The non-Catholic perception of what is taught is wrong.
--
www.personal.leeds.ac.uk/~bgy1mm
freeware games to download.
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| User: "Lucifer" |
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08 Oct 2006 02:49:22 PM |
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Malcolm wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:081020061128105626%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <ks6dnbpHWLcI3LTYnZ2dnUVZ8s2dnZ2d@bt.com>, Malcolm
<regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:081020061117548656%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article
<DipthotDipthot-810A6D.11151708102006@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com>,
655321 <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote:
In article <g5mdnfqcANM0q7TYRVnysA@bt.com>,
"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote:
Sex is part of God's creation, and a gift from God.
It is also corrupting.
This a profound mystery.
No. The mystery is that people haven't shaken themselves free of
these
delusions.
Most have.
And say that sex is morally unproblematic unless you fail to use a
condom.
And hit reality with a bump.
Why is it the Christian Right are so obsessed with sex?
Humans naturally take a great interest in sexuality.
When you add that it is sexual ethics that Christian morality is being most
comprehensively challenged, you get a great deal of talk about sex.
Incidentally, I have never heard an "anti-promiscuity" sermon in a Catholic
church. The non-Catholic perception of what is taught is wrong.
LMFAO
So could you tell me what is so wrong with promiscuity, when it is
consensual and protected?
--
Lucifer, EAC Librarian of Dark Tomes of Excessive Evil and General
Purpose Igor
"Don't worry, I won't bite.......hard"
--
www.personal.leeds.ac.uk/~bgy1mm
freeware games to download.
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| User: "Malcolm" |
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| Title: Re: Woman dedicates her virginity to Jesus |
08 Oct 2006 03:21:15 PM |
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"Lucifer" <wyrdology@hotmail.com> wrote in message
So could you tell me what is so wrong with promiscuity, when it is
consensual and protected?
Sure.
If you argue it from a sort of Martian alien abstract postion, then there is
nothing wrong with prostitution, for instance. Two people make an agreement,
and it is kept.
Humans are not abstract thinking being X.
Women start demanding commitment from their partners after only one or two
sexual acts. They start getting jealous when resources are transferred to a
new girlfriend.
It is a lot better to get married and decide on your commitments in advance,
rather than operate on an ad hoc system that leads to claim and
counterclaim.
--
www.personal.leeds.ac.uk/~bgy1mm
freeware games to download.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Woman dedicates her virginity to Jesus |
08 Oct 2006 04:07:05 PM |
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In article <JOmdnYO9i6IgwLTYnZ2dnUVZ8smdnZ2d@bt.com>, Malcolm
<regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote:
"Lucifer" <wyrdology@hotmail.com> wrote in message
So could you tell me what is so wrong with promiscuity, when it is
consensual and protected?
Sure.
If you argue it from a sort of Martian alien abstract postion, then there is
nothing wrong with prostitution, for instance. Two people make an agreement,
and it is kept.
Leave it to the Christian Right to compare consensual sex with
prostitution.
Humans are not abstract thinking being X.
Women start demanding commitment from their partners after only one or two
sexual acts. They start getting jealous when resources are transferred to a
new girlfriend.
They do? Maybe in your world.
It is a lot better to get married and decide on your commitments in advance,
rather than operate on an ad hoc system that leads to claim and
counterclaim.
Why? And name one thing marriage gets you that living together does
not. (I can think of two, but that is because of religious bigoty.)
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08 Oct 2006 03:54:39 PM |
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Malcolm wrote:
"Lucifer" <wyrdology@hotmail.com> wrote in message
So could you tell me what is so wrong with promiscuity, when it is
consensual and protected?
Sure.
If you argue it from a sort of Martian alien abstract postion, then there is
nothing wrong with prostitution, for instance. Two people make an agreement,
and it is kept.
Humans are not abstract thinking being X.
Women start demanding commitment from their partners after only one or two
sexual acts. They start getting jealous when resources are transferred to a
new girlfriend.
Not necessarily. My own dear mother used to be involved in open
relationships, back in sixties and seventies, before settling down.
There's no problem with open relationships as long
It is a lot better to get married and decide on your commitments in advance,
rather than operate on an ad hoc system that leads to claim and
counterclaim.
Better yet to operate within cultural but not legal boundaries, better
to go into a relationship with the intention of keeping it faithful,
but not to stake everything upon it. At a guess, you are at uni
(judging by the fact that you have Leeds university in your sig),
chances are you are a student. That's usually too young to know for
sure you will spend your whole life with someone. Better to enter into
a relationship, unmarried but faithful, like the vast majority of
people do in this enlightened coutnry.
--
Lucifer, EAC Librarian of Dark Tomes of Excessive Evil and General
Purpose Igor
"Don't worry, I won't bite.......hard"
--
www.personal.leeds.ac.uk/~bgy1mm
freeware games to download.
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08 Oct 2006 05:38:15 PM |
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On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 14:15:22 -0400, 655321
<DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote:
In article <g5mdnfqcANM0q7TYRVnysA@bt.com>,
"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote:
Sex is part of God's creation, and a gift from God.
It is also corrupting.
This a profound mystery.
No. The mystery is that people haven't shaken themselves free of these
delusions.
Exactly.
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