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Topic: Science > Abortion
User: ""
Date: 30 Jun 2006 05:49:14 PM
Object: Women Having Abortions in Britain Having Hard Time Getting Pregnant
http://www.lifenews.com/nat2386.html
London, England (LifeNews.com) -- Women having abortions in England are
finding it increasingly difficult to get pregnant afterwards. The phenomenon
points to one of the medical consequences of having an abortion --
infertility problems -- which studies show is a risk factor in induced
abortions.
Professor Bill Ledger, an abortion practitioner who also operates a
fertility clinic in Sheffield, England has noticed a trend there that the
European nation has high levels of abortions but equally high levels of
women having problems conceiving.
Ledger tells the London Daily Mail newspaper of a 39 year-old woman who came
to his clinic desperate to have a baby but unable to get pregnant.
In her 20s, she had an abortion and she asked Ledger whether that
contributed to the problems.
"Is the abortion the reason why I can't have children now. Was that my one
chance to have a child?" she asked.
Ledger hears the question repeatedly, but still denied abortion's link to
infertility.
"It is a very sad situation. The two are disconnected, medically, but in
these women's minds they are very much connected," he told the London paper.
"The infertility has nothing to do with the previous abortion. If a
termination is carried out in a proper hospital then it should have no
effect on future fertility."
However, according to Deveber Institute in Canada, "No previous births and
an earlier abortion put a woman at significant risk of post-abortion
complications leading to possible infertility."
A 1986 report, "Post-Abortal Endometritis and Isolation of Chlamydia
Trachomatis," published in the medical journal Obstetrics and Gynecology
says that not only is it possible to contract endometriosis from an
abortion, but that the risk is higher for teenagers.
The report says teenagers are 2.5 times more likely than women 20-29 to
acquire endometriosis following abortion.
Abortion businesses also acknowledge the risk that abortions can have in
causing problems for women.
In a factsheet "Abortion: Questions and Answers" prepared by the Planned
Parenthood of Edmonton, Canada for prospective patients, the abortion
business acknowledges the endometriosis risk.
"Infections can occur from an abortion," PPE writes. "At worst the infection
can become a case of endometriosis (the pelvic area becomes inflamed) and
the uterus has to be removed surgically."Serious if treated early," PPE
concludes -- which leads to another post-abortion risk.
Research also shows that abortion can lead to infertility by increasing the
risk of miscarriages.
A 1986 report in the medical journal Epidemiology reveals women with a
history of abortion have a greater risk of fetal loss than women who had no
previous abortions. Women with two prior pregnancies carried to term and no
abortions had the lowest risk, while women with two prior abortions had the
highest risk.
Meanwhile, a 1991 British Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology article
revealed that women with a history of abortion had a 1.5-1.7 times higher
risk of ectopic pregnancy than women who had previously carried a pregnancy
to term.
Still Professor Ledger is beginning to realize the heartbreak women have who
regret their abortions or can't have any more children.
"But, my goodness, do they regret having an abortion, especially when they
find out later they can't have children. Sometimes it is the most
heartbreaking of consultations when in the process of 15 or 20 minutes you
can change the way people see the whole picture of their lives," he told the
Daily Mail.
--
----------
J Yöung
youngopinions@aol.com
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User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Women Having Abortions in Britain Having Hard Time Avoiding Pro-Lie Propaganda 01 Jul 2006 01:34:49 AM
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:


London, England (LifeNews.com) -- Women having abortions in England are
finding it increasingly difficult to get pregnant afterwards. The phenomenon

.... is nothing but pro-lie fear-mongering.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "Curt"

Title: Re: Women Having Abortions in Britain Having Hard Time Avoiding Pro-Lie Propaganda 01 Jul 2006 01:18:37 PM
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:44a61789$0$12743$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...

<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:


London, England (LifeNews.com) -- Women having abortions in England are
finding it increasingly difficult to get pregnant afterwards. The

phenomenon


... is nothing but pro-lie fear-mongering.

They used to say abortion caused breast cancer. It was a lie and they knew
it but they tried to get the meme planted.
Just don't believe anything Operation Rescue tells you about abortion, and
you'll be fine.
Curt
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Women Having Abortions in Britain Having Hard Time Avoiding Pro-Lie Propaganda 03 Jul 2006 01:03:46 AM
Curt wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:44a61789$0$12743$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...

<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:


London, England (LifeNews.com) -- Women having abortions in England are
finding it increasingly difficult to get pregnant afterwards. The

phenomenon


... is nothing but pro-lie fear-mongering.


They used to say abortion caused breast cancer. It was a lie and they knew
it but they tried to get the meme planted.

Not ever giving birth causes breast cancer. Abortion cases rhe death
of a child.


Just don't believe anything Operation Rescue tells you about abortion, and
you'll be fine.

And what does Operation Rescue have to say about the killing of the
unborn?
.


User: ""

Title: Re: Women Having Abortions in Britain Having Hard Time Avoiding Pro-Lie Propaganda 03 Jul 2006 01:01:17 AM
Ray Fischer wrote:

<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:


London, England (LifeNews.com) -- Women having abortions in England are
finding it increasingly difficult to get pregnant afterwards. The phenomenon


... is nothing but pro-lie fear-mongering.

It's "pro-Life", you are obviously pro-death of the innocent.
I often wonder why so many males are pro-death when it comes to the
killing
of these babes, but the answer is obvious, they got some tart
pregnant
and instead of her going after him for support or marrying her, she
killed her baby. He
was so grateful, he became one of these death merchants.
Only garbage murder their own offspring.
.
User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Women Having Abortions in Britain Having Hard Time Avoiding Pro-Lie Propaganda 03 Jul 2006 01:50:09 AM
<
> wrote:

Ray Fischer wrote:

<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:

London, England (LifeNews.com) -- Women having abortions in England are
finding it increasingly difficult to get pregnant afterwards. The phenomenon


... is nothing but pro-lie fear-mongering.


It's "pro-Life",

Lying and killing and slavery are not "pro-life". They are pro-lie
hatred and evil.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Women Having Abortions in Britain Having Hard Time Avoiding Pro-Lie Propaganda 04 Jul 2006 08:19:14 PM
Ray Fischer wrote:

Boedicia@isp.com <Boedicia@isp.com> wrote:

Ray Fischer wrote:

<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:


London, England (LifeNews.com) -- Women having abortions in England are
finding it increasingly difficult to get pregnant afterwards. The phenomenon


... is nothing but pro-lie fear-mongering.


It's "pro-Life",


Lying and killing and slavery are not "pro-life". They are pro-lie
hatred and evil.

I am aware that you are a brick short of a load and mentally
unstable, but *do*
try and explain what "lying, killing and slavery" have to do with
pregnancy
and childbirth. Then tell us what believing that only vermin murder
their
own has to do with "hatred and evil".
OTOH it might have been a good idea if *your* mother had fallen over
a rock when carrying you since you believe that the unborn have no
right to
life.
.
User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Women Having Abortions in Britain Having Hard Time Avoiding Pro-Lie Propaganda 05 Jul 2006 01:57:38 AM
<Boedicia@isp.com> wrote:


Ray Fischer wrote:

Boedicia@isp.com <Boedicia@isp.com> wrote:

Ray Fischer wrote:

<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:


London, England (LifeNews.com) -- Women having abortions in England are
finding it increasingly difficult to get pregnant afterwards. The phenomenon


... is nothing but pro-lie fear-mongering.


It's "pro-Life",


Lying and killing and slavery are not "pro-life". They are pro-lie
hatred and evil.


I am aware that you are a brick short of a load and mentally
unstable, but *do*
try and explain what "lying, killing and slavery" have to do with
pregnancy
and childbirth.

They have everything to do with you and your extremist colleagues.
All you have is hate.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.

User: "Lobby Dosser"

Title: Re: Women Having Abortions in Britain Having Hard Time Avoiding Pro-Lie Propaganda 05 Jul 2006 01:38:05 AM
wrote:

I am aware that you are a brick short of a load and mentally
unstable, but *do*

That'd be "A few bricks shy of a full hod." Please, Please get these things
correct, else the proper terms will slip from the language for ever.
.



User: ""

Title: Re: Women Having Abortions in Britain Having Hard Time Avoiding Pro-Lie Propaganda 06 Jul 2006 10:54:19 PM
wrote:

Ray Fischer wrote:

<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:

London, England (LifeNews.com) -- Women having abortions in England are
finding it increasingly difficult to get pregnant afterwards. The phenomenon

... is nothing but pro-lie fear-mongering.

It's "pro-Life", you are obviously pro-death of the innocent.

Ray is correct. It's "pro-lie" or if you prefer "right-to-lie". You
should fact-check everything you read on a right-to-lie website. It's
bound to be misleading. Never take anything they say at face value.

I often wonder why so many males are pro-death when it comes to the
killing of these babes,

"Babes" are not killed by abortion. The correct question is "why are
so many males pro-choice?" Well, why did so many white people come out
and march with black people during the height of the civil rights
movement?

but the answer is obvious, they got some tart pregnant ...

I have never had intimate relations with a dessert pastry!
Btw, *one* anecdote of dubious origin is hardly indicitive of a trend.
.

User: "Frank Mayhar"

Title: Re: Women Having Abortions in Britain Having Hard Time Avoiding Pro-Lie Propaganda 03 Jul 2006 12:51:46 PM
On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 00:01:17 -0700,
wrote:

It's "pro-Life", you are obviously pro-death of the innocent.

I often wonder why so many males are pro-death when it comes to the
killing
of these babes, but the answer is obvious, they got some tart
pregnant
and instead of her going after him for support or marrying her, she
killed her baby. He
was so grateful, he became one of these death merchants.

Only garbage murder their own offspring.

Um, yeah. So you wait until _after_ they're born.
Man, you're a fucking idiot. That's four times I've seen you spew your
bigoted venom here.
You're exactly the kind that condemns those who make mistakes, while
pretending that your own hypocrisy is virtue.
Were there any justice in the world it would be your own doom to slowly
bleed to death alone in a motel room after engaging in an act of
desperation. http://www.exit.com/Archives/gerri.jpg
(And for those whose newsreaders interpret HTML, the picture itself.)
<img src="http://www.exit.com/Archives/gerri.jpg" style="width: 270px;
height: 207px; border: 0" alt="" />
Go die in a ditch, you waste of flesh.
--
Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/
Exit Consulting http://www.gpsclock.com/
http://www.exit.com/blog/frank/
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Women Having Abortions in Britain Having Hard Time Avoiding Pro-Lie Propaganda 04 Jul 2006 08:25:40 PM
Frank Mayhar wrote:

On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 00:01:17 -0700,

wrote:

It's "pro-Life", you are obviously pro-death of the innocent.

I often wonder why so many males are pro-death when it comes to the
killing
of these babes, but the answer is obvious, they got some tart
pregnant
and instead of her going after him for support or marrying her, she
killed her baby. He
was so grateful, he became one of these death merchants.

Only garbage murder their own offspring.


Um, yeah. So you wait until _after_ they're born.

Then the charge is murder and those responsible will end up behind
bars or even executed.


Man, you're a fucking idiot.

I'm not a man, I'm a wife and mother.
That's four times I've seen you spew your

bigoted venom here.

Then you don't read NG's very often, I've posted a great many times
on this
subject and I'm not sure what "bigotry and venom" has to do with my
opposition to the murder of innocent babies.


You're exactly the kind that condemns those who make mistakes, while
pretending that your own hypocrisy is virtue.

"Mistake"? What "mistake" would that be? Have these tarts never
heard of adoption?
snip rest of the imbeciles rantings. It is obvious that some low
class tart
did him a favour and killed her baby so that he wouldn't have to do
the right
thing by her. There are names for these so-called "men" who desert
woman
who are pregnant with their child - they are called "cowards".
.
User: "Frank Mayhar"

Title: Re: Women Having Abortions in Britain Having Hard Time Avoiding Pro-Lie Propaganda 04 Jul 2006 08:55:14 PM
On Tue, 04 Jul 2006 19:25:40 -0700, Boedicia wrote:

Then the charge is murder and those responsible will end up behind
bars or even executed.

But _you_ will have washed your hands of them by then. You're only
interested in them while they're a zygote.

Man, you're a fucking idiot.

I'm not a man, I'm a wife and mother.

You're a fucking moron, is what you are, not to mention an ignorant idiot.

That's four times I've seen you spew your

bigoted venom here.

Then you don't read NG's very often, I've posted a great many times
on this
subject and I'm not sure what "bigotry and venom" has to do with my
opposition to the murder of innocent babies.

Of course, this has nothing to do with "murder of innocent babies" and
_everything_ to do with controlling what other women do with their bodies.

You're exactly the kind that condemns those who make mistakes, while
pretending that your own hypocrisy is virtue.


"Mistake"? What "mistake" would that be? Have these tarts never
heard of adoption?

And you say you don't know what "bigotry and venom" has to do with you.
Start with "these tarts." What do you mean by "tarts?" Are you referring
to women who somehow don't measure up to your narrowminded little view of
"morality?" What about Gerri Santoro? Was _she_ a "tart?" What about a
poor kid who was raped by a family member, what, was she "asking for it?"
Should she be required to bring the product of such an act to term just
because _you_ think it's "moral?"
Just because _you_ have this idea that only "low class tarts" have
abortions doesn't mean your belief has anything to do with reality.

snip rest of the imbeciles rantings. It is obvious that some low
class tart
did him a favour and killed her baby so that he wouldn't have to do
the right
thing by her. There are names for these so-called "men" who desert
woman
who are pregnant with their child - they are called "cowards".

Um, no. Not fucking hardly. I would personally _love_ to have children.
I just don't think that I can choose for everyone else. Or _anyone_ else.
You, on the other hand, seem to think that the sun rises and sets
according to what you think is "right." Who the ***** gave you the right
to dictate to _anyone_ else what to do with their body? Hell, who the
***** gave _you_ the right to judge _me_, much less anyone else? You seem
to think that you're God Himself, who knows all and who has perfect
judgement, as if there were such a thing in the first place! When in
reality all you are is a bitter little _bitch_ who can't imagine that her
narrowminded morality isn't some "Universal Truth" and the be-all and
end-all of human existence.
"Murder of innocent babies," my *****! All you're interested in is imposing
your ideas of "morality" on others, imposing your rules about what other
people can and can't do with their own bodies.
***** you and ***** the bigotry and smallmindedness that made you.
--
Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/
Exit Consulting http://www.gpsclock.com/
http://www.exit.com/blog/frank/
.





User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Women Having Abortions in Britain Having Hard Time Getting Pregnant 02 Jul 2006 01:52:06 AM
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:

http://www.lifenews.com/nat2386.html
London, England (LifeNews.com) -- Women having abortions in England are
finding it increasingly difficult to get pregnant afterwards.

And we all know that religious lunatics like Jon Young want women
forced to get pregnant starting at the age of 20 when they're most
fertile.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Women Having Abortions in Britain Having Hard Time Getting Pregnant 02 Jul 2006 08:26:40 AM
On 2-Jul-2006,
(Ray Fischer) wrote:

<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:

http://www.lifenews.com/nat2386.html
London, England (LifeNews.com) -- Women having abortions in England are
finding it increasingly difficult to get pregnant afterwards.


And we all know that religious lunatics like Jon Young want women
forced to get pregnant starting at the age of 20 when they're most
fertile.

But not pay for the babies of all the idiots who *do* get pregnant
without being able to afford it.
Susan
.

User: ""

Title: Re: Women Having Abortions in Britain Having Hard Time Getting Pregnant 03 Jul 2006 12:45:03 AM
Ray Fischer wrote:

<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:

http://www.lifenews.com/nat2386.html
London, England (LifeNews.com) -- Women having abortions in England are
finding it increasingly difficult to get pregnant afterwards.


And we all know that religious lunatics like Jon Young want women
forced to get pregnant starting at the age of 20 when they're most
fertile.

You are an idiot. No-one forces anyone to get pregnant, it is the
act of sex
between a male and female that causes pregnancy. If either of them
doesn't
want children they should get fixed like a dog or cat. Killing
innocent living
children in the womb for conveniences sake are the acts of cowards
and murderers.
Haven't these disgusting tarts ever heard of adoption? Haven't these
males
ever heard of marriage and family? What pathetic vermin they are.
.
User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Women Having Abortions in Britain Having Hard Time Getting Pregnant 03 Jul 2006 01:06:48 AM
<
> wrote:


Ray Fischer wrote:

<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:

http://www.lifenews.com/nat2386.html
London, England (LifeNews.com) -- Women having abortions in England are
finding it increasingly difficult to get pregnant afterwards.


And we all know that religious lunatics like Jon Young want women
forced to get pregnant starting at the age of 20 when they're most
fertile.


You are an idiot.

Nope.

No-one forces anyone to get pregnant,

Because you control freaks have not been allowed to do so.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.

User: "Don Homuth"

Title: Re: Women Having Abortions in Britain Having Hard Time Getting Pregnant 03 Jul 2006 08:49:00 AM
On 2 Jul 2006 22:45:03 -0700, "Boedicia@isp.com" <Boedicia@isp.com>
wrote:

You are an idiot. No-one forces anyone to get pregnant...

Care to revisit that assertion, this time connecting a second neuron?
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Women Having Abortions in Britain Having Hard Time Getting Pregnant 04 Jul 2006 08:07:19 PM
Don Homuth wrote:

On 2 Jul 2006 22:45:03 -0700, "Boedicia@isp.com" <Boedicia@isp.com>
wrote:

You are an idiot. No-one forces anyone to get pregnant...


Care to revisit that assertion, this time connecting a second neuron?

Please repost that in English. Ta.
What is it you didn't understand about "No-one forces anyone to get
pregnant"?
.
User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"

Title: Re: Women Having Abortions in Britain Having Hard Time Getting Pregnant 04 Jul 2006 08:13:51 PM
wrote:

Don Homuth wrote:

On 2 Jul 2006 22:45:03 -0700, "

" <
>
wrote:

You are an idiot. No-one forces anyone to get pregnant...

Care to revisit that assertion, this time connecting a second neuron?


Please repost that in English. Ta.

What is it you didn't understand about "No-one forces anyone to get
pregnant"?

Do the letters R A P E or I N C E S T mean anything to ya?
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor

A.A #1143 a=45, m=23, f=20
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
____________________________________________________________________
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Women Having Children Later in Britain Having Hard Time Getting Pregnant 05 Jul 2006 01:54:15 AM
On 4-Jul-2006, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktayloraz@getnet.net> wrote:

Boedicia@isp.com wrote:

Don Homuth wrote:

On 2 Jul 2006 22:45:03 -0700, "Boedicia@isp.com" <Boedicia@isp.com>
wrote:

You are an idiot. No-one forces anyone to get pregnant...

Care to revisit that assertion, this time connecting a second neuron?


Please repost that in English. Ta.

What is it you didn't understand about "No-one forces anyone to get
pregnant"?

Do the letters R A P E or I N C E S T mean anything to ya?

Heck, Andrea Yates is the poster child for pseudo-Xian patriarchy.
No rape or incest there, but the damage was just as bad - no, WORSE.
Susan
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Women Having Children Later in Britain Having Hard Time Getting Pregnant 07 Jul 2006 08:53:56 PM
wrote:

On 4-Jul-2006, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktayloraz@getnet.net> wrote:

Boedicia@isp.com wrote:

Don Homuth wrote:

On 2 Jul 2006 22:45:03 -0700, "Boedicia@isp.com" <Boedicia@isp.com>
wrote:

You are an idiot. No-one forces anyone to get pregnant...

Care to revisit that assertion, this time connecting a second neuron?


Please repost that in English. Ta.

What is it you didn't understand about "No-one forces anyone to get
pregnant"?

Do the letters R A P E or I N C E S T mean anything to ya?


Heck, Andrea Yates is the poster child for pseudo-Xian patriarchy.

The word is "Christian", it's a proper noun which mean it requires a
capital letter.

No rape or incest there, but the damage was just as bad - no, WORSE.

The Yates case has been discussed here in detail. Killing any or all
of her
babies in the womb wouldn't have solved a thing. Her husband should
have
had a vasectomy long before she had 5 children. Those children
should
have been in school so that she could have had time for herself. She
was
of low intellect otherwise she would have prevented her pregnancies by
asking her doctor to sterilise her when she had her 3rd child and was
having problems even then. I fully expect her husband to re-marry
and
repeat the process. He needs to get himself fixed and so should all
the males
who post here and appear to approve of their unborn babies being
killed in the womb
to get them off the hook. What could does it do with kill a womans
6th or 7th child
in the womb when it is obvious that she will be pregnant again
immediately after.
.
User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Women Having Children Later in Britain Having Hard Time Getting Pregnant 08 Jul 2006 01:43:58 AM
<Boedicia@isp.com> wrote:

flaviaR@verizon.net wrote:

"Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktayloraz@getnet.net> wrote:

Boedicia@isp.com wrote:

Don Homuth wrote:

On 2 Jul 2006 22:45:03 -0700, "Boedicia@isp.com" <Boedicia@isp.com>
wrote:

You are an idiot. No-one forces anyone to get pregnant...

Care to revisit that assertion, this time connecting a second neuron?


Please repost that in English. Ta.

What is it you didn't understand about "No-one forces anyone to get
pregnant"?

Do the letters R A P E or I N C E S T mean anything to ya?


Heck, Andrea Yates is the poster child for pseudo-Xian patriarchy.


The word is "Christian", it's a proper noun which mean it requires a
capital letter.

What do you know of Christians?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Women Having Children Later in Britain Having Hard Time Getting Pregnant 09 Jul 2006 09:53:20 AM
On 8-Jul-2006,
(Ray Fischer) wrote:

<Boedicia@isp.com> wrote:

flaviaR@verizon.net wrote:

Heck, Andrea Yates is the poster child for pseudo-Xian patriarchy.


The word is "Christian", it's a proper noun which mean it requires a
capital letter.


What do you know of Christians?

Not nearly as much as she does of hypocrisy.
Ask the slimy little bigot to spell "Jew",. "Jewish" or "Judaism".
And she obviously can't read, either - I certainly used a capital letter.
And then ask her to look up the history of the word "Xian".
Susan
.




User: ""

Title: Re: Women Having Abortions in Britain Having Hard Time Getting Pregnant 04 Jul 2006 08:33:37 PM
Rev. Karl E. Taylor wrote:

Boedicia@isp.com wrote:

Don Homuth wrote:

On 2 Jul 2006 22:45:03 -0700, "Boedicia@isp.com" <Boedicia@isp.com>
wrote:

You are an idiot. No-one forces anyone to get pregnant...

Care to revisit that assertion, this time connecting a second neuron?


Please repost that in English. Ta.

What is it you didn't understand about "No-one forces anyone to get
pregnant"?

Do the letters R A P E or I N C E S T mean anything to ya?

Ah yes, the usual "I was raped" drivel. A rape victim is supposed to
call the
police immediately after the rapist takes off. She receives medical
treatment
that prevents conception. Can you understand that or are you as dumb
as
you appear. Incest is another matter. What female who is old enough
to
conceive allows a male relative to have sex with her. She tells
someone
not waits until she gets pregnant.


--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor



A.A #1143 a=45, m=23, f=20

Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
____________________________________________________________________

Duh. I doubt you are a Rev of any Christian faith I'm familiar with
otherwise
you would know the words of Christ - 'Suffer little children to come
unto me".
I suggest you council some of these poor "raped" victims and ask
them
why they neglected to receive hospital treatment and not wait until
they
were pregnant before they cried "rape".
.
User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"

Title: Re: Women Having Abortions in Britain Having Hard Time Getting Pregnant 04 Jul 2006 08:50:40 PM
wrote:

Rev. Karl E. Taylor wrote:

wrote:

Don Homuth wrote:

On 2 Jul 2006 22:45:03 -0700, "

" <
>
wrote:

You are an idiot. No-one forces anyone to get pregnant...

Care to revisit that assertion, this time connecting a second neuron?

Please repost that in English. Ta.

What is it you didn't understand about "No-one forces anyone to get
pregnant"?

Do the letters R A P E or I N C E S T mean anything to ya?



Ah yes, the usual "I was raped" drivel. A rape victim is supposed to
call the
police immediately after the rapist takes off. She receives medical
treatment
that prevents conception. Can you understand that or are you as dumb
as
you appear. Incest is another matter. What female who is old enough
to
conceive allows a male relative to have sex with her. She tells
someone
not waits until she gets pregnant.

And what cave do you live in dear? Sorry to say but until Plan B
becomes the norm and available to every woman that requests it,
pregnancies from rape will still happen. BTW, statistics show that many
women of rape, do not report it out of shame. The wonderful religious
influence again.
Incest OTOH, happens to women of all ages. Do you deny that it is
possible for a young girl to be impregnated by her father or brother?
If you do, you are deluded at best.


--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor



A.A #1143 a=45, m=23, f=20

Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
____________________________________________________________________



Duh. I doubt you are a Rev of any Christian faith I'm familiar with
otherwise
you would know the words of Christ - 'Suffer little children to come
unto me".
I suggest you council some of these poor "raped" victims and ask
them
why they neglected to receive hospital treatment and not wait until
they
were pregnant before they cried "rape".

I have toots. I've held their hands when they have told me stories that
would set your hair on fire. I cried with them when they've woke
screaming in the night, remembering what some worthless degenerate did
to them.
NO, I am not a Reverend of any religion, I am a Minister to humanity. I
see the human side of this world and do what I can to help those in need
when needed. I see no gods in the actions of people. Especially when
those people are crying in fear because of what some knuckle dragging,
half up right, tree swinging primate did to them.
You don't like abortion, THEN DON'T FUCKING GET ONE!
But to deny a woman the choice to an abortion is immoral at best,
criminal at worst.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor

A.A #1143 a=45, m=23, f=20
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
____________________________________________________________________
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Women Having Abortions in Britain Having Hard Time Getting Pregnant 05 Jul 2006 11:20:43 PM
Rev. Karl E. Taylor wrote:

Boedicia@isp.com wrote:

Rev. Karl E. Taylor wrote:

Boedicia@isp.com wrote:

Don Homuth wrote:

On 2 Jul 2006 22:45:03 -0700, "Boedicia@isp.com" <Boedicia@isp.com>
wrote:

You are an idiot. No-one forces anyone to get pregnant...

Care to revisit that assertion, this time connecting a second neuron?

Please repost that in English. Ta.

What is it you didn't understand about "No-one forces anyone to get
pregnant"?

Do the letters R A P E or I N C E S T mean anything to ya?



Ah yes, the usual "I was raped" drivel. A rape victim is supposed to
call the
police immediately after the rapist takes off. She receives medical
treatment
that prevents conception. Can you understand that or are you as dumb
as
you appear. Incest is another matter. What female who is old enough
to
conceive allows a male relative to have sex with her. She tells
someone
not waits until she gets pregnant.

And what cave do you live in dear? Sorry to say but until Plan B
becomes the norm and available to every woman that requests it,
pregnancies from rape will still happen.

And I repeat the treatment they receive prevents conception so no
pregnancy.
BTW, statistics show that many

women of rape, do not report it out of shame. The wonderful religious
influence again.

Garbage. Any woman who has been raped knows enough to call the
police,
so that they can look for the rapist. Nothing to do with religion
except in your
anto-Christian view.


Incest OTOH, happens to women of all ages. Do you deny that it is
possible for a young girl to be impregnated by her father or brother?

Quite if she is too retarted to let it continue until she is
pregnant. We are
not talking of 4 years old here, these are teenaged girls who know
better
and are capable of stopping it, so why don't they?


If you do, you are deluded at best.


--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor



A.A #1143 a=45, m=23, f=20

Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
____________________________________________________________________



Duh. I doubt you are a Rev of any Christian faith I'm familiar with
otherwise
you would know the words of Christ - 'Suffer little children to come
unto me".
I suggest you council some of these poor "raped" victims and ask
them
why they neglected to receive hospital treatment and not wait until
they
were pregnant before they cried "rape".

I have toots. I've held their hands when they have told me stories that
would set your hair on fire. I cried with them when they've woke
screaming in the night, remembering what some worthless degenerate did
to them.

That's why we have a police force and prisons.


NO, I am not a Reverend of any religion, I am a Minister to humanity.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. I have news for you, babies in the
womb are part
of humanity unless you think you were found under a rock somewhere.

see the human side of this world and do what I can to help those in need
when needed. I see no gods in the actions of people. Especially when
those people are crying in fear because of what some knuckle dragging,
half up right, tree swinging primate did to them.

Call the cops.


You don't like abortion, THEN DON'T FUCKING GET ONE!

That goes without saying. I am not a coward, I don't murder those
who
can't fight back. If I ever have to kill someone it will be in self
defense not some
innocent child. *You* however feel that they have no right to life.
It is
fortunate for you that *your* mother didn't feel that way - OTOH maybe
it's
unfortunate that she didn't.


But to deny a woman the choice to an abortion is immoral at best,
criminal at worst.

Garbage. Only low class tarts murder their own. As for "choice" what
choice
does the baby have? And the crime is the murder of am unborn child
by
the dross of the world whether so-called "mother" or co-called
"doctor".
snip daft useless sig by a so-called "Rev", he's a brick short of a
load.
Do you have children BTW or did you come to a "final solution" to
solve
your problem.
.
User: "gatt"

Title: Re: Women Having Abortions in Britain Having Hard Time Getting Pregnant 06 Jul 2006 10:34:17 AM
<Boedicia@isp.com> wrote in message
news:1152159643.625426.162620@j8g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Garbage. Any woman who has been raped knows enough to call the
police,

Sheer ignorance.

Incest OTOH, happens to women of all ages. Do you deny that it is
possible for a young girl to be impregnated by her father or brother?

Well, gee, that's rape, and she knows enough to call the police, so...

Garbage. Only low class tarts murder their own.

You're a real piece of work, huh?
-c
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Women Having Abortions in Britain Having Hard Time Getting Pregnant 06 Jul 2006 12:09:00 PM
On 6-Jul-2006, "gatt" <LiveFromTheClocktower@gfy.com> wrote:

<Boedicia@isp.com> wrote in message
news:1152159643.625426.162620@j8g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Garbage. Any woman who has been raped knows enough to call the
police,


Sheer ignorance.

Yeah, that way she can be told - as a friend of mine was
"You don't look like you;ve been raped."
Of course, this was over 15 years ago - have things
improved since then?
Either way, then the woman can go on to be humiliated all over again
when the guy's lawyer puts her on trial instead of the other way around.


Incest OTOH, happens to women of all ages. Do you deny that it is
possible for a young girl to be impregnated by her father or brother?


Well, gee, that's rape, and she knows enough to call the police, so...

Garbage. Only low class tarts murder their own.


You're a real piece of work, huh?

What passes for her mind is narrower than a hypodermic opening.
Susan
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Women Having Abortions in Britain Having Hard Time Getting Pregnant 07 Jul 2006 08:43:48 PM
wrote:

On 6-Jul-2006, "gatt" <LiveFromTheClocktower@gfy.com> wrote:

<Boedicia@isp.com> wrote in message
news:1152159643.625426.162620@j8g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Garbage. Any woman who has been raped knows enough to call the
police,


Sheer ignorance.


Yeah, that way she can be told - as a friend of mine was
"You don't look like you;ve been raped."
Of course, this was over 15 years ago - have things
improved since then?
Either way, then the woman can go on to be humiliated all over again
when the guy's lawyer puts her on trial instead of the other way around.

Garbage. How is the rapist ever going to be found unless the police
know who to look for and have the DNA evidence.


Incest OTOH, happens to women of all ages. Do you deny that it is
possible for a young girl to be impregnated by her father or brother?


Well, gee, that's rape, and she knows enough to call the police, so...

Garbage. Only low class tarts murder their own.


You're a real piece of work, huh?

What passes for her mind is narrower than a hypodermic opening.

Says the resident airhead. Why don't you open an abortion mill, I
hear
it's very profitable which should appeal to those whose race you
claim to
belong to.


.



User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"

Title: Re: Women Having Abortions in Britain Having Hard Time Getting Pregnant 07 Jul 2006 07:03:26 AM
wrote:

Rev. Karl E. Taylor wrote:

wrote:

Rev. Karl E. Taylor wrote:

wrote:

Don Homuth wrote:

On 2 Jul 2006 22:45:03 -0700, "

" <
>
wrote:

You are an idiot. No-one forces anyone to get pregnant...

Care to revisit that assertion, this time connecting a second neuron?

Please repost that in English. Ta.

What is it you didn't understand about "No-one forces anyone to get
pregnant"?

Do the letters R A P E or I N C E S T mean anything to ya?


Ah yes, the usual "I was raped" drivel. A rape victim is supposed to
call the
police immediately after the rapist takes off. She receives medical
treatment
that prevents conception. Can you understand that or are you as dumb
as
you appear. Incest is another matter. What female who is old enough
to
conceive allows a male relative to have sex with her. She tells
someone
not waits until she gets pregnant.

And what cave do you live in dear? Sorry to say but until Plan B
becomes the norm and available to every woman that requests it,
pregnancies from rape will still happen.


And I repeat the treatment they receive prevents conception so no
pregnancy.

What treatment? Here in the US, the only treatment is crisis counseling
and evidence gathering. We don't have a treatment here, yet, that will
do what you describe. But please, by all means, if you know of one or
more, tell us about them.


BTW, statistics show that many

women of rape, do not report it out of shame. The wonderful religious
influence again.


Garbage. Any woman who has been raped knows enough to call the
police,
so that they can look for the rapist. Nothing to do with religion
except in your
anto-Christian view.

REALLY! That tells me right there, you've never been in that spot.
What a lovely ivory tower you must live in.


Incest OTOH, happens to women of all ages. Do you deny that it is
possible for a young girl to be impregnated by her father or brother?


Quite if she is too retarted to let it continue until she is
pregnant. We are
not talking of 4 years old here, these are teenaged girls who know
better
and are capable of stopping it, so why don't they?

More of that ivory tower again. Damn how can you be so fucking ignorant.


If you do, you are deluded at best.

--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor



A.A #1143 a=45, m=23, f=20

Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
____________________________________________________________________


Duh. I doubt you are a Rev of any Christian faith I'm familiar with
otherwise
you would know the words of Christ - 'Suffer little children to come
unto me".
I suggest you council some of these poor "raped" victims and ask
them
why they neglected to receive hospital treatment and not wait until
they
were pregnant before they cried "rape".

I have toots. I've held their hands when they have told me stories that
would set your hair on fire. I cried with them when they've woke
screaming in the night, remembering what some worthless degenerate did
to them.


That's why we have a police force and prisons.

Again, since you've never been in that position, you don't have a clue.
Tell ya what sweety. Call your local police department, ask them about
their rape statistics. You'll find that they will end that list of
stats with the statement, "of the reported rapes". When you ask them
what they mean, you'll be told that many, MANY rapes go unreported.
But you won't, you don't care. You scream and yell about a blob of
cells and how it has to be saved. But once a breathing person is born,
you don't give a damn.
Pathetic.


NO, I am not a Reverend of any religion, I am a Minister to humanity.


Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. I have news for you, babies in the
womb are part
of humanity unless you think you were found under a rock somewhere.

Yeah, to bad you don't give a ***** after they pop out.


see the human side of this world and do what I can to help those in need
when needed. I see no gods in the actions of people. Especially when
those people are crying in fear because of what some knuckle dragging,
half up right, tree swinging primate did to them.


Call the cops.

Stop being an ignorant *****. Pull your nose out of the "book o' blood"
for a while, and actually do some research before you sound even more
foolish.


You don't like abortion, THEN DON'T FUCKING GET ONE!


That goes without saying. I am not a coward, I don't murder those
who
can't fight back. If I ever have to kill someone it will be in self
defense not some
innocent child. *You* however feel that they have no right to life.
It is
fortunate for you that *your* mother didn't feel that way - OTOH maybe
it's
unfortunate that she didn't.

But to deny a woman the choice to an abortion is immoral at best,
criminal at worst.


Garbage. Only low class tarts murder their own. As for "choice" what
choice
does the baby have? And the crime is the murder of am unborn child
by
the dross of the world whether so-called "mother" or co-called
"doctor".

It's not a baby, you ignorant twit.
Low class tarts, my what a lovely world view you have. And I just love
how it's perfectly okay in your mind, to force YOUR personal views onto
others. When it's your body, you get to decide, when it's someone else
body, buzz off.


snip daft useless sig by a so-called "Rev", he's a brick short of a
load.

At least I do something to help. You sit on your backside, judging
instead of helping.


Do you have children BTW or did you come to a "final solution" to
solve
your problem.

If you actually read the whole tag line, the answer to your question is
there.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor

A.A #1143 a=45, m=23, f=20
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
____________________________________________________________________
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