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"TerryG" |
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08 Jun 2004 03:19:13 PM |
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Yes, there's anger out there... |
....but I can honestly say that I don't know a single person who would
open a bottle of champagne if Bill Clinton died. That doesn't mean
there there are no conservatives who would rejoice at the death of an
opponent. But isn't this just one of the essences of the difference
between liberals and concervatives. Conservatives generally just have
way too much respect for life to ever rejoice at death. Isn't it
ironic!!!
Now please read the following and understand why I say this.
President Reagan Changed Me
By Tammy Bruce
FrontPageMagazine.com | June 7, 2004
There are events in life which remind one of what's truly important.
Last week, for example, the subject for this column was going to be
the depraved absurdity of O.J. Simpson attempting to explain himself
to the media. Again. On this ten-year anniversary of the murders of
Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman, Simpson was making the interview rounds
as the car wreck of the week.
Then President Reagan died. Once again, in a world which seems to be
swamped in the ugly and hopeless (think Michael Moore and O.J.
Simpson), Reagan emerges as a reminder of the class, style, compassion
and brilliance that makes this nation great.
You will read many tributes to the Great Man in the weeks to come. For
my part, I present to you an abridgement of the confessional tribute I
wrote a year ago about Mr. And Mrs. Reagan in my book, The Death of
Right and Wrong.
Ronald Reagan inspired me to become a better person. With his death,
perhaps those with whom I used to associate in the gay and feminist
establishments will have the courage to look honestly at him and
themselves.
***
In 1994 I was in my fourth year as president of the Los Angeles
chapter of NOW. I had also served on the National NOW Board of
Directors. It was a year I remember, for several reasons. It was the
year O.J. Simpson killed Nicole Brown Simpson and her friend Ron
Goldman, and the year my town was hit by the devastating Northridge
earthquake. It was also the year Ronald Reagan announced to the nation
that he had Alzheimer's. …
Ronald Reagan was hated, and still is, in the feminist-establishment
circles in which I grew up. That milieu subsists on enemies and
hatred. I took my cues from the women around me, women I admired. They
were strong and confident, and they knew. They knew who was out to get
us. They knew who was determined to throw us back into the Dark Ages.
They knew Reagan was evil.
I tell you this not as an excuse for my past actions but as a further
illustration of what I've been discussing throughout this book – the
way malignant narcissism is spread. You see, the seed of my politics,
the politics I espouse now, were already manifested in my voting for
President Reagan 10 years earlier. I liked him, and I believed he had
the best interests of Americans in mind. During my involvement with
NOW, however, what took over was my need to be accepted, the
romanticization of my "victimhood," and the power I could achieve by
following the models of the women at the top. Those women were happy
that Reagan was sick, so I would be, too.
The conditioning of the Left Elite works so well partly because the
people attracted to that camp are looking for family, they are looking
to belong; consequently people like that – people like me – are easy
pickings. My emptiness compelled me to cheer when a decent man who
followed his principles was struck down by an unforgiving assailant.
Alzheimer's had done what many feminist leaders fantasized about doing
themselves, if only they could get away with it.
Today, I am still pro-choice, and I still support fetal tissue
research. But I now realize that those who disagree with me also have
good points. I hope they reflect on their position as often as I do on
mine, because both camps are on the razor's edge. I have made my
commitment to women and reproductive freedom, while my compatriots on
the other side of the fence, mostly because of their religious faith,
have made a pact with what they call "the unborn."
We will have to agree to disagree, but only now do I consider those on
that other side decent people – as decent as I, but with a different
focus. Ronald Reagan is one of those decent people, but in all the
feminist establishment's mirth about his illness, never did they
consider, never would they consider, the humanity of the man. Some may
have made sympathetic public comments, but, like Madelyn Toogood, the
woman who beat her little girl in a parking lot, they were simply
looking around to make sure no one was watching before they returned
to privately declaring that Reagan deserved to suffer. …
By now, you may not be surprised to learn that in certain gay and
feminist circles, bottles of champagne wait in refrigerators to be
opened when Reagan dies. …
I write this on the night Nancy Reagan appeared on "60 Minutes II."
Mike Wallace interviewed her about the former president, their
marriage, and their history. Watching the show, I remembered why I
liked Reagan so much – old footage of an early interview with Mike
Wallace, at the time Reagan announced his first candidacy in 1976 (I
was 14), deeply moved me and reminded me what great leadership was to
come. ...
During the interview, Mrs. Reagan disclosed that she's not sure her
husband recognizes her anymore. Long ago he had stopped recognizing
his children, but he always knew her. Now, it seems, he doesn't. There
was a deep sadness in the woman's face. It was the "long goodbye," as
she called it.
The Reagans, like so many other people, had probably approached their
Golden Years trusting, assuming, that memories would be shared, and
laughed and cried about. For Nancy Reagan that doesn't exist. She
hasn't said goodbye to her husband because "he's still here," but the
welling of tears in her eyes revealed a wounded, sad woman. I found it
heartbreaking to see, as would any decent person of any political
persuasion.
Part of my life, however, is still reflective of what I call my "old"
life – my years of leadership in the feminist establishment and
involvement in the gay-rights movement. This night, those two lives
collided. As I cried after the interview because of the sadness of it
and my own guilt and shame, I checked my phone messages. There was one
from a gay male friend, whom I see infrequently these days but with
whom I share some fun and important activist memories.
He had been watching the same interview, but he was cheering. "Woo
hoo! It looks like we might be opening up that champagne sooner than
later! I hope you were watching the Dragon Lady on "60 Minutes"
tonight. I suppose with Alzheimer's, he's not suffering anymore, but
it sure looks like she is! There is a God after all."
I had never thought of my friend as an indecent person, just as I
never thought of myself as one. But he really hates those two people
and wishes them awful things. He believes he's in the right and
they're wrong. He also believes that the questions that divide them
are moral issues about life and death. The difference, however, is
that I think it's safe to say neither Nancy nor Ronald Reagan ever had
a bottle of champagne in the fridge waiting for a gay man or a
feminist to die. The Reagans, I'll bet, don't hoot and holler at
someone else's pain.
Mrs. Reagan's humanity illustrated by counterpoint the soullessness of
the Left. We, the Feminist and Gay Elites, inflicted on society
narcissists' biggest crime of all: We couldn't see beyond our own
interests and desires. We became indecent in defending our principles.
…
While I don't hold out any hope for the damaged Left Elite I've
exposed for you in this book, I know that we as individuals can
overcome and reject what the Left demands of us – the abandonment of
right and wrong, the banishment of decency and integrity, the
rejection of what the Reagans, both of them, represent.
We can instead do our best to live honest lives, replete with the
discomfort of shame, the difficulties of personal responsibility, and
the joy, the genuine happiness, that only right and good can bring. We
will have the reward of being better people.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tammy Bruce is a Fox News Channel Contributor and author of The Death
of Right and Wrong.
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| User: "Somesappywriter" |
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| Title: Re: Yes, there's anger out there... |
08 Jun 2004 09:46:58 PM |
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On 8 Jun 2004 13:19:13 -0700, (TerryG) wrote:
...but I can honestly say that I don't know a single person who would
open a bottle of champagne if Bill Clinton died. That doesn't mean
there there are no conservatives who would rejoice at the death of an
opponent. But isn't this just one of the essences of the difference
between liberals and concervatives. Conservatives generally just have
way too much respect for life to ever rejoice at death. Isn't it
ironic!!!
Now please read the following and understand why I say this.
President Reagan Changed Me
I don't care if Reagan, Clinton or The Pope died -- there are just too
many ***** real to worry about in the real world than a small
groups of folks who had the privilege of being privileged.
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| User: "TerryG" |
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| Title: Re: Yes, there's anger out there... |
09 Jun 2004 07:29:42 AM |
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Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message news:<1eucc0lbnam400fvnh2ivml3n39mqcjd41@4ax.com>...
On 8 Jun 2004 13:19:13 -0700, (TerryG) wrote:
...but I can honestly say that I don't know a single person who would
open a bottle of champagne if Bill Clinton died. That doesn't mean
there there are no conservatives who would rejoice at the death of an
opponent. But isn't this just one of the essences of the difference
between liberals and concervatives. Conservatives generally just have
way too much respect for life to ever rejoice at death. Isn't it
ironic!!!
Now please read the following and understand why I say this.
President Reagan Changed Me
I don't care if Reagan, Clinton or The Pope died -- there are just too
many ***** real to worry about in the real world than a small
groups of folks who had the privilege of being privileged.
If "privilieged" means coming from humble beginnings and working hard
to become governor of the largest state and president of the US, then
what does that make you?
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| User: "The other Donald" |
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| Title: Re: Yes, there's anger out there... |
11 Jun 2004 12:47:52 PM |
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"TerryG" <> wrote in message
news:7322e1ab.0406090429.1c9739d0@posting.google.com...
Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message
news:<1eucc0lbnam400fvnh2ivml3n39mqcjd41@4ax.com>...
On 8 Jun 2004 13:19:13 -0700, (TerryG) wrote:
...but I can honestly say that I don't know a single person who would
open a bottle of champagne if Bill Clinton died. That doesn't mean
there there are no conservatives who would rejoice at the death of an
opponent. But isn't this just one of the essences of the difference
between liberals and concervatives. Conservatives generally just have
way too much respect for life to ever rejoice at death. Isn't it
ironic!!!
Now please read the following and understand why I say this.
President Reagan Changed Me
I don't care if Reagan, Clinton or The Pope died -- there are just too
many ***** real to worry about in the real world than a small
groups of folks who had the privilege of being privileged.
If "privilieged" means coming from humble beginnings and working hard
to become governor of the largest state and president of the US, then
what does that make you?
You damn sure aren't describing Bush II.
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| User: "Somesappywriter" |
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09 Jun 2004 07:48:39 AM |
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On 9 Jun 2004 05:29:42 -0700, (TerryG) wrote:
Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message news:<1eucc0lbnam400fvnh2ivml3n39mqcjd41@4ax.com>...
On 8 Jun 2004 13:19:13 -0700, (TerryG) wrote:
...but I can honestly say that I don't know a single person who would
open a bottle of champagne if Bill Clinton died. That doesn't mean
there there are no conservatives who would rejoice at the death of an
opponent. But isn't this just one of the essences of the difference
between liberals and concervatives. Conservatives generally just have
way too much respect for life to ever rejoice at death. Isn't it
ironic!!!
Now please read the following and understand why I say this.
President Reagan Changed Me
I don't care if Reagan, Clinton or The Pope died -- there are just too
many ***** real to worry about in the real world than a small
groups of folks who had the privilege of being privileged.
If "privilieged" means coming from humble beginnings and working hard...
They were men.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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09 Jun 2004 06:35:52 AM |
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TerryG <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
...but I can honestly say that I don't know a single person who would
open a bottle of champagne if Bill Clinton died. That doesn't mean
there there are no conservatives who would rejoice at the death of an
opponent. But isn't this just one of the essences of the difference
between liberals and concervatives. Conservatives generally just have
way too much respect for life to ever rejoice at death.
Once one overlooks the tens to hundreds of thousands killed by US
conservatives over the past 25 years. Reagan's promotion of
terrorism. Bush's invasion of Iraq.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "TerryG" |
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10 Jun 2004 12:04:21 PM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<ca6smo$9ev$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
TerryG <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
...but I can honestly say that I don't know a single person who would
open a bottle of champagne if Bill Clinton died. That doesn't mean
there there are no conservatives who would rejoice at the death of an
opponent. But isn't this just one of the essences of the difference
between liberals and concervatives. Conservatives generally just have
way too much respect for life to ever rejoice at death.
Once one overlooks the tens to hundreds of thousands killed by US
conservatives over the past 25 years. Reagan's promotion of
terrorism. Bush's invasion of Iraq.
Good God! You are so alone.
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| User: "Somesappywriter" |
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10 Jun 2004 12:07:49 PM |
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On 10 Jun 2004 10:04:21 -0700, (TerryG) wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<ca6smo$9ev$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
TerryG < > wrote:
...but I can honestly say that I don't know a single person who would
open a bottle of champagne if Bill Clinton died. That doesn't mean
there there are no conservatives who would rejoice at the death of an
opponent. But isn't this just one of the essences of the difference
between liberals and concervatives. Conservatives generally just have
way too much respect for life to ever rejoice at death.
Once one overlooks the tens to hundreds of thousands killed by US
conservatives over the past 25 years. Reagan's promotion of
terrorism. Bush's invasion of Iraq.
Good God! You are so alone.
Goodness gracious, his opinion is far from isolated.
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| User: "TerryG" |
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12 Jun 2004 01:36:45 PM |
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Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message news:<4a5hc0ln4341a7an5lp57cc8abrg4aqmap@4ax.com>...
On 10 Jun 2004 10:04:21 -0700, (TerryG) wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<ca6smo$9ev$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
TerryG < > wrote:
...but I can honestly say that I don't know a single person who would
open a bottle of champagne if Bill Clinton died. That doesn't mean
there there are no conservatives who would rejoice at the death of an
opponent. But isn't this just one of the essences of the difference
between liberals and concervatives. Conservatives generally just have
way too much respect for life to ever rejoice at death.
Once one overlooks the tens to hundreds of thousands killed by US
conservatives over the past 25 years. Reagan's promotion of
terrorism. Bush's invasion of Iraq.
Good God! You are so alone.
Goodness gracious, his opinion is far from isolated.
If you're and example of his company, like I said, he's so alone.
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| User: "Somesappywriter" |
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12 Jun 2004 03:46:52 PM |
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On 12 Jun 2004 11:36:45 -0700, (TerryG) wrote:
Somesappywriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message news:<4a5hc0ln4341a7an5lp57cc8abrg4aqmap@4ax.com>...
On 10 Jun 2004 10:04:21 -0700, (TerryG) wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<ca6smo$9ev$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
TerryG < > wrote:
...but I can honestly say that I don't know a single person who would
open a bottle of champagne if Bill Clinton died. That doesn't mean
there there are no conservatives who would rejoice at the death of an
opponent. But isn't this just one of the essences of the difference
between liberals and concervatives. Conservatives generally just have
way too much respect for life to ever rejoice at death.
Once one overlooks the tens to hundreds of thousands killed by US
conservatives over the past 25 years. Reagan's promotion of
terrorism. Bush's invasion of Iraq.
Good God! You are so alone.
Goodness gracious, his opinion is far from isolated.
If you're and example of his company, like I said, he's so alone.
Rather be rationally alone than codependently irrational.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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10 Jun 2004 10:56:16 PM |
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TerryG <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<ca6smo$9ev$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
TerryG <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
...but I can honestly say that I don't know a single person who would
open a bottle of champagne if Bill Clinton died. That doesn't mean
there there are no conservatives who would rejoice at the death of an
opponent. But isn't this just one of the essences of the difference
between liberals and concervatives. Conservatives generally just have
way too much respect for life to ever rejoice at death.
Once one overlooks the tens to hundreds of thousands killed by US
conservatives over the past 25 years. Reagan's promotion of
terrorism. Bush's invasion of Iraq.
Good God! You are so alone.
You have no repect for human life because you have no respect for
people.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "TerryG" |
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12 Jun 2004 01:38:15 PM |
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(Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<cabagv$kgt$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
TerryG <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
(Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<ca6smo$9ev$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
TerryG <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
...but I can honestly say that I don't know a single person who would
open a bottle of champagne if Bill Clinton died. That doesn't mean
there there are no conservatives who would rejoice at the death of an
opponent. But isn't this just one of the essences of the difference
between liberals and concervatives. Conservatives generally just have
way too much respect for life to ever rejoice at death.
Once one overlooks the tens to hundreds of thousands killed by US
conservatives over the past 25 years. Reagan's promotion of
terrorism. Bush's invasion of Iraq.
Good God! You are so alone.
You have no repect for human life because you have no respect for
people.
And I suppose you'll claim to respect me more than I respect you. Prove it.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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12 Jun 2004 03:18:36 PM |
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TerryG <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<cabagv$kgt$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
TerryG <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<ca6smo$9ev$1@bolt.sonic.net>...
TerryG <ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:
...but I can honestly say that I don't know a single person who would
open a bottle of champagne if Bill Clinton died. That doesn't mean
there there are no conservatives who would rejoice at the death of an
opponent. But isn't this just one of the essences of the difference
between liberals and concervatives. Conservatives generally just have
way too much respect for life to ever rejoice at death.
Once one overlooks the tens to hundreds of thousands killed by US
conservatives over the past 25 years. Reagan's promotion of
terrorism. Bush's invasion of Iraq.
Good God! You are so alone.
You have no repect for human life because you have no respect for
people.
And I suppose you'll claim to respect me more than I respect you. Prove it.
You really are an idiot if you think I am going to try and prove your
claim.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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