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11 Sep 2004 09:15:19 PM |
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# A Question For You Bush Supporters |
A Question For You Bush Supporters
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What do you think the government should do about health care for
Americans? Here's my suggestion: Since Bush and his cronies feel that
tax cuts create jobs on the corporate level and give the little guy
more money in his/her pocket, why not nationalize health care? I'm
sure that the money that companies would save by not subsidizing part
of their employee premiums, along with the added money each person
would have with the cessation of paying for his/her health insurance,
would drive the economy to new heights. Or is that suggestion merely
as bogus as the theory that tax cuts stimulate the economy?
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| User: "Hanoi Jane Fonda" |
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| Title: PROOF THAT LIBERALS HATE AMERICA==> A Question For You Bush Supporters |
11 Sep 2004 09:30:03 PM |
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On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 03:15:19 +0100,
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A Question For You Bush Supporters
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What do you think the government should do about health care for
Americans? Here's my suggestion: Since Bush and his cronies feel that
tax cuts create jobs on the corporate level and give the little guy
more money in his/her pocket, why not nationalize health care? I'm
sure that the money that companies would save by not subsidizing part
of their employee premiums, along with the added money each person
would have with the cessation of paying for his/her health insurance,
would drive the economy to new heights. Or is that suggestion merely
as bogus as the theory that tax cuts stimulate the economy?
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: # A Question For You Bush Supporters |
12 Sep 2004 08:45:45 AM |
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On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 03:15:19 +0100, wrote:
A Question For You Bush Supporters
What do you think the government should do about health care for
Americans? Here's my suggestion: Since Bush and his cronies feel that
tax cuts create jobs on the corporate level and give the little guy
more money in his/her pocket, why not nationalize health care?
1. It's contrary to a democracy.
2. It's contrary to individual decision to be a doctor.
3. It's either paid for with more taxes, or fee fixed.
4. It eliminates doctor appointments.
5. It deletes professionalism.
6. It reduces the field to the level of the average government worker.
Did I forget any?
I'm sure that the money that companies would save by not subsidizing part
of their employee premiums, along with the added money each person
would have with the cessation of paying for his/her health insurance,
would drive the economy to new heights. Or is that suggestion merely
as bogus as the theory that tax cuts stimulate the economy?
If you're going to socialize medicine, why stop there? Answer - we wouldn't. Socialize
everything, then we would have a socialized society rather than a democratic one. That
way we would be like the old Soviet Union - we're told what work we are to do, we're told
what careers we would have, we share one-bedroom apartments with other families, and we
would get our bucket of potatoes and onions at practically no charge.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "Jez" |
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| Title: Re: # A Question For You Bush Supporters |
12 Sep 2004 09:27:13 AM |
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duke wrote:
On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 03:15:19 +0100, wrote:
A Question For You Bush Supporters
What do you think the government should do about health care for
Americans? Here's my suggestion: Since Bush and his cronies feel that
tax cuts create jobs on the corporate level and give the little guy
more money in his/her pocket, why not nationalize health care?
1. It's contrary to a democracy.
no, just contrary to private business interests.
2. It's contrary to individual decision to be a doctor.
3. It's either paid for with more taxes, or fee fixed.
As we pay-out millions to corporations already what's the difference ?
4. It eliminates doctor appointments.
5. It deletes professionalism.
6. It reduces the field to the level of the average government worker.
Did I forget any?
Did you actually come up with any ?
I'm sure that the money that companies would save by not subsidizing part
of their employee premiums, along with the added money each person
would have with the cessation of paying for his/her health insurance,
would drive the economy to new heights. Or is that suggestion merely
as bogus as the theory that tax cuts stimulate the economy?
If you're going to socialize medicine, why stop there? Answer - we wouldn't. Socialize
everything, then we would have a socialized society rather than a democratic one.
Why do you, instead, support fascism, "The merger of corporate and state
power" ?
That
way we would be like the old Soviet Union - we're told what work we are to do, we're told
what careers we would have, we share one-bedroom apartments with other families, and we
would get our bucket of potatoes and onions at practically no charge.
Clueless fucking twit.
--
Jez
"The condition of alienation, of being asleep, of being unconscious,
of being out of one's mind, is the condition of the normal man. Society
highly values its normal man.It educates children to lose themselves
and to become absurd,and thus to be normal. Normal men have killed
perhaps 100,000,000 of their fellow normal men in the last fifty years."
R.D. Laing
Skype callto://hellward
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| User: "Courageous" |
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| Title: Re: # A Question For You Bush Supporters |
12 Sep 2004 09:53:55 AM |
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1. It's contrary to a democracy.
no, just contrary to private business interests.
It's contrary to free choice. As are public schools. Unless you're
proposing opt out with a full tax refund for opt-outers?
As we pay-out millions to corporations already what's the difference ?
Pay out where? Corporate welfare? That should be stopped.
6. It reduces the field to the level of the average government worker.
Did I forget any?
Did you actually come up with any ?
If you have a loved one being seen in a VA hospital for something
life-threatening, do yourself a favor. Pay whatever extra money you can
to have them seen somewhere else.
Just a bit of friendly advice.
C//
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| User: "Kate " |
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| Title: Re: # A Question For You Bush Supporters |
12 Sep 2004 01:37:08 PM |
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On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 14:53:55 GMT, Courageous <dontwant@spam.com>
wrote:
1. It's contrary to a democracy.
no, just contrary to private business interests.
It's contrary to free choice. As are public schools. Unless you're
proposing opt out with a full tax refund for opt-outers?
LOL, how does having the option of going to a free public school do
anything but add to your choice?
And it's been my own experience that private schools, especially those
run by a corporation tend to be pretty damn bad. They do without all
kinds of things like school nurses, reading specialists and
counsellors. They won't take on the problem years of high schools, so
you just can't get anything but public for those year. (hey - if no
public schools are available, your kids just don't get to go to high
school if there's no private school in your town) They use marketing
companies to pretend they are doing so much better in tests, when the
truth is they set up the rules so all their students are a year older
than everyone else and anyone with any problems is kicked out.
So in your opinion, the public schools option should be stopped and we
should all rely on McDonalds type companies to educate our country's
future doctors, engineers and scientists. Not to mention, uneducated,
unemployed people don't pay taxes, instead they have to steal to feed
their families.
We all have a stake in educating our children. You need to pay your
fair share no matter what you do with your own kids.
As we pay-out millions to corporations already what's the difference ?
Pay out where? Corporate welfare? That should be stopped.
Then vote out the republicans.
6. It reduces the field to the level of the average government worker.
Did I forget any?
Did you actually come up with any ?
If you have a loved one being seen in a VA hospital for something
life-threatening, do yourself a favor. Pay whatever extra money you can
to have them seen somewhere else.
I have to disagree. You have to be careful, but there are fabulous
military hospitals that handle VA work.
Then again, a policy paying any white collar government worker far
less than commercial might be a reason for not getting top quality.
Let's face it, repubs tend to screw everything up.
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| User: "Gerald Gardner" |
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| Title: Re: # A Question For You Bush Supporters |
12 Sep 2004 07:06:00 PM |
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"Kate " <cobalt@newscene.com> wrote in message
news:41618fa4.272895328@news-west.newscene.com...
On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 14:53:55 GMT, Courageous <dontwant@spam.com>
wrote:
1. It's contrary to a democracy.
no, just contrary to private business interests.
It's contrary to free choice. As are public schools. Unless you're
proposing opt out with a full tax refund for opt-outers?
LOL, how does having the option of going to a free public school do
anything but add to your choice?
Public Schools (PS) are coercive and anti-competitive. A huge government
controlled monopoly.
By providing a "free" alternative to private school they undermine
competition. If the State provided free but shoddy housing to all, a great
number would see no need to buy / rent their own housing but with a big
difference: The adults/parents would be subjected to the shoddy nature of
the housing and would be more liable to opt out. Most adults aren't
subjected to the lousy schools and are quite satisfied with the way things
are.
Why is that the most liberal rich politicians send their children to private
schools? It reminds me of the "Dog Food" policy I read about at a major
corporation. When they were forced to use their own product to carry out
their business (eating the dog food), they became their own customers. They
quickly became more responsive to their customers needs.
PS provide 3rd rate quality at 1st at a 1st rate price. Did you know that
there is about $9,000 per student spent in Texas? For a class of 20 that's
$180,000, for 25 it's $225,000, and for 30 it's $270,000, A quarter of a
million dollars per class! Where the heck is the money going?
Almost five years ago we pulled our three children out of PS. We've heard
the arguments that by doing so we undermine the PS system. If that were
true it would be GREAT! But in fact the PS system now has $27,000 per year
to squander on administrators, graft, incompetence and social(istic)
engineering. We consider it an unfortunate gift to the socialist rats who
infest the system.
I'd like to see the day when going to public school is viewed as being on
par with being on welfare or living in public housing, something you only do
when no other option is available.
Parents are routinely pressured to drug their children into a nice compliant
state, or certified under section 504 as disabled so the school can get more
$$$$. It seems the only diversity that is celebrated is race, ethnicity,
sex, or deviant sexuality.
my $0.02
Gerald Gardner
"I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of
tyranny over the mind of man." - Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "DUCKofDEATH" |
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| Title: Re: # A Question For You Bush Supporters |
12 Sep 2004 11:40:01 AM |
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In article <41445cf5$0$20254$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com>, Jez
<iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote:
duke wrote:
On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 03:15:19 +0100, wrote:
A Question For You Bush Supporters
What do you think the government should do about health care for
Americans? Here's my suggestion: Since Bush and his cronies feel that
tax cuts create jobs on the corporate level and give the little guy
more money in his/her pocket, why not nationalize health care?
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Hey Moonbat,
Sure let's socialize medicine! That way we can go bankrupt like the
french, germans, brits, and canadians. What an asshat you are. Lefties,
they can't learn from history, they won't learn from experience. Thank
Ifni for George W. Bush.
Four more years! Four more years!
--DoD
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| User: "Looneral" |
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| Title: Re: # A Question For You Bush Supporters |
12 Sep 2004 12:05:49 PM |
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Hey Moonbat, healthcare is not a right in this country you fucking communist
pinko.
"DUCKofDEATH" <testy4ever@hotmail.invalid> wrote in message
news:120920041240019069%testy4ever@hotmail.invalid...
In article <41445cf5$0$20254$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com>, Jez
<iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote:
duke wrote:
On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 03:15:19 +0100,
wrote:
A Question For You Bush Supporters
What do you think the government should do about health care for
Americans? Here's my suggestion: Since Bush and his cronies feel that
tax cuts create jobs on the corporate level and give the little guy
more money in his/her pocket, why not nationalize health care?
\
Hey Moonbat,
Sure let's socialize medicine! That way we can go bankrupt like the
french, germans, brits, and canadians. What an asshat you are. Lefties,
they can't learn from history, they won't learn from experience. Thank
Ifni for George W. Bush.
Four more years! Four more years!
--DoD
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| User: "DUCKofDEATH" |
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| Title: Re: # A Question For You Bush Supporters |
12 Sep 2004 12:07:54 PM |
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In article <4k%0d.293742$Oi.196999@fed1read04>, Looneral
<liberal@dummies.com> wrote:
Ah, Looneral
Three words: STOP THE DRUGS, NOW! Oops now I'm using JF'nK math.
Trust me,
DoD
Hey Moonbat, healthcare is not a right in this country you fucking communist
pinko.
"DUCKofDEATH" <testy4ever@hotmail.invalid> wrote in message
news:120920041240019069%testy4ever@hotmail.invalid...
In article <41445cf5$0$20254$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com>, Jez
<iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote:
duke wrote:
On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 03:15:19 +0100,
wrote:
A Question For You Bush Supporters
What do you think the government should do about health care for
Americans? Here's my suggestion: Since Bush and his cronies feel that
tax cuts create jobs on the corporate level and give the little guy
more money in his/her pocket, why not nationalize health care?
\
Hey Moonbat,
Sure let's socialize medicine! That way we can go bankrupt like the
french, germans, brits, and canadians. What an asshat you are. Lefties,
they can't learn from history, they won't learn from experience. Thank
Ifni for George W. Bush.
Four more years! Four more years!
--DoD
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