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14 Oct 2005 11:46:35 AM |
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--- Do you have long term goal? |
<?>---said:
"To achieve great things we must live as though we were never going to
die."
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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14 Oct 2005 01:01:38 PM |
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<yjkoooo@webtv.net> wrote in message
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<?>---said:
"To achieve great things we must live as though we were never going to
die."
That's funny, I thought it was "Live each day as if it was your last."
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Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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14 Oct 2005 01:12:00 PM |
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
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<yjkoooo@webtv.net> wrote in message
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<?>---said:
"To achieve great things we must live as though we were never going to
die."
That's funny, I thought it was "Live each day as if it was your last."
Actually, neither of these cuts the mustard either philosophically or
psychologically. Which is no doubt why Nietzsche came up with the idea of
the 'Eternal Recurrence':
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"-- What, if some day or night a demon were to steal after you into your
loneliest loneliness and say to you: 'This life as you now live it and have
lived it, you will have to live once more and innumerable times more; and
there will be nothing new in it, but every pain and every joy and every
thought and sigh and everything unutterably small or great in your live will
have to return to you, all in the same succession and sequence--even this
spider and this moonlight between the trees, and even this moment and I
myself. The eternal hourglass of existence is turned upside down again and
again, and you with it, speck of dust!' Would you not throw yourself down
and gnash your teeth and curse the demon who spoke thus? Or have you once
experienced a tremendous moment when you would have answered him: 'You are a
god and never have I heard anything more divine.' If this thought gained
possession of you, it would change you as you are or perhaps crush you. (GS
341)"
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Discuss. No more than 3000 words, please. Hand it in Thursday.
Katt.
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14 Oct 2005 12:44:56 PM |
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wrote:
<?>---said:
"To achieve great things we must live as though we were never going to
die."
A good one, but I like another quote by the same author a tad better:
"There are those who are so scrupulously afraid of doing wrong that they
seldom venture to do anything."
Vauvenargues, Marquis de quotes (French moralist and essayist,
1715-1747)
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Denny
"There cannot be a God because, If there were one, I would
not believe that I were not He." - Friedrich Nietzsche
"Have you noticed how theists can never, never, never be right about
anything at all on this NG? Talk about Fox being 'fair and balanced.'
Sheesh!"
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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16 Oct 2005 05:48:38 AM |
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dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote in alt.atheism
"Have you noticed how theists can never, never, never be right about
anything at all on this NG? Talk about Fox being 'fair and balanced.'
Sheesh!"
Who said that, you?
--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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| User: "dgillesp" |
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16 Oct 2005 07:33:18 PM |
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Elroy Willis wrote:
dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote in alt.atheism
"Have you noticed how theists can never, never, never be right about
anything at all on this NG? Talk about Fox being 'fair and balanced.'
Sheesh!"
Who said that, you?
Well yes, but modesty and humility prevented me from taking credit for
it. ;)
--
Denny
"There cannot be a God because, If there were one, I would
not believe that I were not He." - Friedrich Nietzsche
"Have you noticed how theists can never, never, never be right about
anything at all on this NG? Talk about Fox being 'fair and balanced.'
Sheesh!"
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| User: "Josef Balluch" |
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16 Oct 2005 08:27:13 PM |
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In a message sent 'round the world, dgillesp poured fuel on the fire
with the following:
Elroy Willis wrote:
dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote in alt.atheism
"Have you noticed how theists can never, never, never be right about
anything at all on this NG? Talk about Fox being 'fair and balanced.'
Sheesh!"
Who said that, you?
Well yes, but modesty and humility prevented me from taking credit for
it. ;)
That would be a wise decision on your part, since your statement is self
refuting nonsense.
Regards,
Josef
Besides learning to see, there is another art to be learned: not to see
what is not.
-- Maria Mitchell
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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17 Oct 2005 05:42:43 PM |
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dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis wrote:
dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote in alt.atheism
"Have you noticed how theists can never, never, never be right about
anything at all on this NG? Talk about Fox being 'fair and balanced.'
Sheesh!"
Who said that, you?
Well yes, but modesty and humility prevented me from taking credit for
it. ;)
At least you're more humble than georgann. She's saved since 33AD you
know!
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Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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17 Oct 2005 06:35:57 PM |
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"Elroy Willis" <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message
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dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis wrote:
dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote in alt.atheism
"Have you noticed how theists can never, never, never be right about
anything at all on this NG? Talk about Fox being 'fair and balanced.'
Sheesh!"
Who said that, you?
Well yes, but modesty and humility prevented me from taking credit for
it. ;)
At least you're more humble than georgann. She's saved since 33AD you
know!
SNARK! ;)
--
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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18 Oct 2005 10:21:01 PM |
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In <25a8l1d2qmi4lu9needrq1grub36lj23di@4ax.com>, Elroy Willis
<elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis wrote:
dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote in alt.atheism
"Have you noticed how theists can never, never, never be right about
anything at all on this NG? Talk about Fox being 'fair and balanced.'
Sheesh!"
Who said that, you?
Well yes, but modesty and humility prevented me from taking credit for
it. ;)
At least you're more humble than georgann. She's saved since 33AD you
know!
We should check her attic for a portrait...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"We're angry, Mr. President, and we'll be angry long
after our beloved city and surrounding parishes have
been pumped dry. Our people deserved rescuing.
Many who could have been were not. That's to the
government's shame."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?F2D511CBB
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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21 Oct 2005 05:14:28 AM |
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Mark K. Bilbo <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis wrote:
dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote in alt.atheism
"Have you noticed how theists can never, never, never be right about
anything at all on this NG? Talk about Fox being 'fair and balanced.'
Sheesh!"
Who said that, you?
Well yes, but modesty and humility prevented me from taking credit for
it. ;)
At least you're more humble than georgann. She's saved since 33AD
you know!
We should check her attic for a portrait...
Of what?
--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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21 Oct 2005 05:40:58 AM |
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On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 10:14:28 GMT in alt.atheism, Elroy Willis (Elroy
Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
Mark K. Bilbo <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis wrote:
dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote in alt.atheism
"Have you noticed how theists can never, never, never be right about
anything at all on this NG? Talk about Fox being 'fair and balanced.'
Sheesh!"
Who said that, you?
Well yes, but modesty and humility prevented me from taking credit for
it. ;)
At least you're more humble than georgann. She's saved since 33AD
you know!
We should check her attic for a portrait...
Of what?
A very old and debauched lady.
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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21 Oct 2005 06:10:38 AM |
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Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in alt.atheism
in alt.atheism Elroy Willis said
Mark K. Bilbo <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis wrote:
dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote in alt.atheism
"Have you noticed how theists can never, never, never be right
about anything at all on this NG? Talk about Fox being 'fair and
balanced.' Sheesh!"
Who said that, you?
Well yes, but modesty and humility prevented me from taking credit for
it. ;)
At least you're more humble than georgann. She's saved since 33AD
you know!
We should check her attic for a portrait...
Of what?
A very old and debauched lady.
With a red letter "A" pinned to her chest?
"It stands for Alpha," says georgann. "My current husband is an
Omega."
"We know better," says the crowd...
--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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| User: "Harry F. Leopold" |
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21 Oct 2005 08:43:43 AM |
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On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 06:10:38 -0500, Elroy Willis wrote
(in article <gsihl11cgfnlif7tjeck8gk4rh41v96hj3@4ax.com>):
Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in alt.atheism
in alt.atheism Elroy Willis said
Mark K. Bilbo <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis wrote:
dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote in alt.atheism
"Have you noticed how theists can never, never, never be right
about anything at all on this NG? Talk about Fox being 'fair and
balanced.' Sheesh!"
Who said that, you?
Well yes, but modesty and humility prevented me from taking credit for
it. ;)
At least you're more humble than georgann. She's saved since 33AD
you know!
We should check her attic for a portrait...
Of what?
A very old and debauched lady.
With a red letter "A" pinned to her chest?
"It stands for Alpha," says georgann. "My current husband is an
Omega."
"We know better," says the crowd...
I take it you have never read The Portrait of Dorian Gray?
--
Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness
(remove gene to email)
"Nothing can stand up to atheistic critical examination. You guys are the
proctologists of Religion." - angelicusrex
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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22 Oct 2005 06:45:14 AM |
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Harry F. Leopold <hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote in alt.atheism
<snip>
I take it you have never read The Portrait of Dorian Gray?
Interestingly, the movie happened to show up on cable this morning
and I watched the first hour or so. I couldn't understand why it was
classified as a horror movie. I lost interest and didn't bother
watching the last half of it.
I'm sure you're gonna say "read the book," right? :)
--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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| User: "Hannele Huigens" |
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22 Oct 2005 09:42:11 AM |
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Op Sat, 22 Oct 2005 13:45:14 +0200 schreef Elroy Willis
<elroywillis@swbell.net>:
Harry F. Leopold <hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote in alt.atheism
<snip>
I take it you have never read The Portrait of Dorian Gray?
Interestingly, the movie happened to show up on cable this morning
and I watched the first hour or so. I couldn't understand why it was
classified as a horror movie. I lost interest and didn't bother
watching the last half of it.
I'm sure you're gonna say "read the book," right? :)
Actually, yes, I would urge you to do that. It isn't very long and I find
it to be quite creepy. Plus: there's lust and violence in it, so you
needn't get bored. ;-)
Seriously though: I quite like the book. I don't know the movie you've
been trying to watch, but I think it's a shame it didn't manage to hold
your attention. The story is a classic and I think it to be well written.
--
Hannele Huigens
aa #2221
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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22 Oct 2005 04:13:46 PM |
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Hannele Huigens <Hannele@lycos.nl> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
Harry F. Leopold <hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote in alt.atheism
<snip>
I take it you have never read The Portrait of Dorian Gray?
Interestingly, the movie happened to show up on cable this morning
and I watched the first hour or so. I couldn't understand why it was
classified as a horror movie. I lost interest and didn't bother
watching the last half of it.
I'm sure you're gonna say "read the book," right? :)
Actually, yes, I would urge you to do that. It isn't very long and I find
it to be quite creepy. Plus: there's lust and violence in it, so you
needn't get bored. ;-)
Seriously though: I quite like the book. I don't know the movie you've
been trying to watch, but I think it's a shame it didn't manage to hold
your attention. The story is a classic and I think it to be well written.
The socialite fellow with the beard got on my nerves. He talked way
too fast for me. I guess that wouldn't happen in the book version
even if it said he was a fast talker. :)
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Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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21 Oct 2005 06:17:51 AM |
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"Elroy Willis" <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:9qfhl191sv2lgol46j0r03hjd405o1qgus@4ax.com...
Mark K. Bilbo <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis wrote:
dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote in alt.atheism
"Have you noticed how theists can never, never, never be right about
anything at all on this NG? Talk about Fox being 'fair and
balanced.'
Sheesh!"
Who said that, you?
Well yes, but modesty and humility prevented me from taking credit for
it. ;)
At least you're more humble than georgann. She's saved since 33AD
you know!
We should check her attic for a portrait...
Of what?
Dorian Gray, of course!
C'mon, you didn't get the reference? ;)
--
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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21 Oct 2005 06:31:04 AM |
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Robibnikoff <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message
Mark K. Bilbo <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis wrote:
dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote in alt.atheism
"Have you noticed how theists can never, never, never be right about
anything at all on this NG? Talk about Fox being 'fair and
balanced.' Sheesh!"
Who said that, you?
Well yes, but modesty and humility prevented me from taking credit for
it. ;)
At least you're more humble than georgann. She's saved since 33AD
you know!
We should check her attic for a portrait...
Of what?
Dorian Gray, of course!
C'mon, you didn't get the reference? ;)
No. Does that make me stupid?
--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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21 Oct 2005 06:36:16 AM |
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"Elroy Willis" <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message
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Robibnikoff <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message
Mark K. Bilbo <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis wrote:
dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote in alt.atheism
"Have you noticed how theists can never, never, never be right
about
anything at all on this NG? Talk about Fox being 'fair and
balanced.' Sheesh!"
Who said that, you?
Well yes, but modesty and humility prevented me from taking credit
for
it. ;)
At least you're more humble than georgann. She's saved since 33AD
you know!
We should check her attic for a portrait...
Of what?
Dorian Gray, of course!
C'mon, you didn't get the reference? ;)
No. Does that make me stupid?
No, of course not! You just don't watch as many horror movies as I do - Or
are a fan of Oscar Wilde ;)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0037988/
--
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
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21 Oct 2005 07:11:25 AM |
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Robibnikoff <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message
Robibnikoff <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message
Mark K. Bilbo <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in alt.atheism
<snip>
We should check her attic for a portrait...
Of what?
Dorian Gray, of course!
C'mon, you didn't get the reference? ;)
No. Does that make me stupid?
No, of course not! You just don't watch as many horror movies
as I do - Or are a fan of Oscar Wilde ;)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0037988/
Ah, I get it now...
BTW, are you a fan of vampire stories?
--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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21 Oct 2005 09:54:30 AM |
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"Elroy Willis" <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message
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Robibnikoff <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message
Robibnikoff <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message
Mark K. Bilbo <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in alt.atheism
<snip>
We should check her attic for a portrait...
Of what?
Dorian Gray, of course!
C'mon, you didn't get the reference? ;)
No. Does that make me stupid?
No, of course not! You just don't watch as many horror movies
as I do - Or are a fan of Oscar Wilde ;)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0037988/
Ah, I get it now...
BTW, are you a fan of vampire stories?
Not that Anne Rice *****. Read a bunch of those books when I was out of work
last fall. What a pile of long-winded, pretentious crap ;P
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
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22 Oct 2005 10:11:27 AM |
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In <3rsdp7Fl7r5kU1@individual.net>, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Elroy Willis" <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:mhmhl1dg89p60v0nd2hfbg0r2ileet9vln@4ax.com...
Robibnikoff <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message
Robibnikoff <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message
Mark K. Bilbo <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in alt.atheism
<snip>
We should check her attic for a portrait...
Of what?
Dorian Gray, of course!
C'mon, you didn't get the reference? ;)
No. Does that make me stupid?
No, of course not! You just don't watch as many horror movies as I do
- Or are a fan of Oscar Wilde ;)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0037988/
Ah, I get it now...
BTW, are you a fan of vampire stories?
Not that Anne Rice *****. Read a bunch of those books when I was out of
work last fall. What a pile of long-winded, pretentious crap ;P
You know, last I heard of her, she left the state entirely, ran off to
California, and now has written "Christ the Lord: Out of Egypt."
Boy, she was a big loss. Right up with Emeril the slum lord...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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"We're angry, Mr. President, and we'll be angry long
after our beloved city and surrounding parishes have
been pumped dry. Our people deserved rescuing.
Many who could have been were not. That's to the
government's shame."
http://www.nola.com/
"FEMA email warned of disaster"
http://makeashorterlink.com/?C5332250C
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22 Oct 2005 04:17:25 PM |
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Mark K. Bilbo <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in alt.atheism
Robibnikoff <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message
BTW, are you a fan of vampire stories?
Not that Anne Rice *****. Read a bunch of those books when I was out of
work last fall. What a pile of long-winded, pretentious crap ;P
You know, last I heard of her, she left the state entirely, ran off to
California, and now has written "Christ the Lord: Out of Egypt."
Oh my, was she born again or something?
Boy, she was a big loss. Right up with Emeril the slum lord...
I've never been able to understand the fascination with vampire
folklore. Is it the immortality aspect or what?
--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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23 Oct 2005 08:15:48 AM |
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In <dtall1dcoi4lsg5q363np67012ukl9i1tu@4ax.com>, Elroy Willis
<elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
Mark K. Bilbo <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in alt.atheism
Robibnikoff <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message
BTW, are you a fan of vampire stories?
Not that Anne Rice *****. Read a bunch of those books when I was out of
work last fall. What a pile of long-winded, pretentious crap ;P
You know, last I heard of her, she left the state entirely, ran off to
California, and now has written "Christ the Lord: Out of Egypt."
Oh my, was she born again or something?
Saw her on a local station in an interview before she moved to Metairie
(before she moved to SoCal) and she says she "grew out of" her atheism.
<eye roll>
Anyway, she went back to worshipping her priest or some such. She was
obviously an "atheist" in the sense of being a theist who was having a
tantrum over big sky daddy.
Boy, she was a big loss. Right up with Emeril the slum lord...
I've never been able to understand the fascination with vampire folklore.
Is it the immortality aspect or what?
No idea...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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"We're angry, Mr. President, and we'll be angry long
after our beloved city and surrounding parishes have
been pumped dry. Our people deserved rescuing.
Many who could have been were not. That's to the
government's shame."
http://www.nola.com/
"FEMA email warned of disaster"
http://makeashorterlink.com/?C5332250C
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| User: "Soul food" |
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14 Oct 2005 01:51:31 PM |
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Into alt.atheism shot and breathlessly exclaimed:
<?>---said:
"To achieve great things we must live as though we were never going to
die."
Fred, the binman.
He was wrong, as it turned out.
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"If iron chariots make people immune to God (Judges 1:19), why do Christians drive cars?"
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208
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| User: "Dubh Ghall" |
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14 Oct 2005 12:20:51 PM |
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On 14 Oct 2005 09:46:35 -0700, wrote:
<?>---said:
"To achieve great things we must live as though we were never going to
die."
More plagiarism. Marquis De Vauvenargues, this time.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: --- Do you have long term goal? |
14 Oct 2005 02:58:26 PM |
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To acheive anything at all it would not help very much if we thought we
could just wait a million years longer before getting started.
Think about it
Peter van Velzen
Oktober 2005
Amstelveen
The Netherlands
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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16 Oct 2005 06:47:15 AM |
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"pbamvv@worldonline.nl" <pbamvv@worldonline.nl> wrote in alt.atheism
To acheive anything at all it would not help very much if we thought we
could just wait a million years longer before getting started.
It could lead to severe procrastination..
I watched a show last night which talked about interstellar travel,
and it said that most people don't like taking up a project which they
won't personally observe the conclusion to before they die. I think
there's some truth to that, at least for me, if I take the age of my
death to be around 100 at most.
IOW, I'm not too excited about sending a space ship to some star
that's 4000 light years away, since I, and over 40 generations of
people won't actually see the results. I guess that's actually
short-sighted and even egocentric thinking, but it's how I and many
other people feel.
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Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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| User: "" |
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16 Oct 2005 06:38:15 AM |
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Elroy:
I watched a show last night which talked about interstellar travel,
and it said that most people don't like taking up a project which they
won't personally observe the conclusion to before they die. I think
there's some truth to that, at least for me, if I take the age of my
death to be around 100 at most
Peter:
Well, I would say we are not up to that anyway,
Let's wait for interstellar travel untill some Micky had been on Pluto
OK
But in the long term typir point might be a serious one,
for it might be crucial to survival of mankind
to reach another star-system by the time ou sun turns red-giant.
They allways say that won't happen for the next four-billions years,
but I suppose that might a bit of an inexact figure.
I have no idea how such an estimate is derrived
I hope the correct scientific estimate is not in fact 4 billion years
plus or minus 4 billion:)
Think about it
Peter van Velzen
October 2005
Amstelveen
The Netherlands
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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16 Oct 2005 07:25:21 AM |
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wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy:
I watched a show last night which talked about interstellar travel,
and it said that most people don't like taking up a project which they
won't personally observe the conclusion to before they die. I think
there's some truth to that, at least for me, if I take the age of my
death to be around 100 at most
Peter:
Well, I would say we are not up to that anyway,
Let's wait for interstellar travel untill some Micky had been on Pluto
OK
But in the long term typir point might be a serious one,
for it might be crucial to survival of mankind
to reach another star-system by the time ou sun turns red-giant.
They allways say that won't happen for the next four-billions years,
but I suppose that might a bit of an inexact figure.
And there's the chance a giant asteroid might slam into earth, wiping
out mankind, so maybe we should start sending out the biosphere space
ships right now, as soon as possible...
I have no idea how such an estimate is derrived
I hope the correct scientific estimate is not in fact 4 billion years
plus or minus 4 billion:)
In the mean time, we can enjoy sci-fi stories with wormholes and
stargates, and the religious people can enjoy their living forever in
the bosom of their god, or living forever with 72 perpetual virgin
stories. :)
--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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