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"Yjk Ooo" |
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26 Jan 2005 01:03:14 AM |
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--- So, there is GOD! |
<?>---said:
"If there were no God, there would be no Atheists."
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| User: "kathryn" |
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| Title: Re: --- So, there is GOD! |
26 Jan 2005 11:04:59 AM |
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"Yjk Ooo" <yjkoooo@webtv.net> wrote in message
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<?>---said:
"If there were no God, there would be no Atheists."
"if there were no god we'd have to invent one"
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| User: "satyr" |
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| Title: Re: --- So, there is GOD! |
26 Jan 2005 03:14:51 PM |
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On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:04:59 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn"
<bob@bobbybobbobthebobster.com> wrote:
"Yjk Ooo" <yjkoooo@webtv.net> wrote in message
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<?>---said:
"If there were no God, there would be no Atheists."
"if there were no god we'd have to invent one"
If God did exist, it would be necessary for us to kill him.
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satyr #1953
Chairman, EAC Church Taxation Subcommittee
Director, Gideon Bible Alternative Fuel Project
Supervisor, EAC Fossil Casting Lab
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: --- So, there is GOD! |
26 Jan 2005 11:38:48 AM |
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"Yjk Ooo" <yjkoooo@webtv.net> wrote in message
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<?>---said:
"If there were no God, there would be no Atheists."
No, if there were no god BELIEVERS the word atheism would be meaningless.
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Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "Ian Braidwood" |
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| Title: Re: --- So, there is GOD! |
26 Jan 2005 03:42:33 AM |
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G. K. Chesterton, which only goes to show that even dead authors can
talk complete *****.
(-: Ian :-)
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| User: "sanguinevikings" |
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| Title: Re: --- So, there is GOD! |
26 Jan 2005 05:14:47 AM |
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Ian Braidwood <diri.gini@virgin.net> wrote in message
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G. K. Chesterton, which only goes to show that even dead authors can
talk complete *****.
(-: Ian :-)
It depends, as Bill Clinton might say, on what you mean by 'is'.
If, by 'is' you mean that God is a concept that some people take on trust,
and that God has been explicitly defined by some people and asserted to
exist, then, yes, there is a God. He exists in the imaginations of a number
of people and there is a point to discussing whether or not, in actual
reality, he exists.
The fact that, in order to assert his existence, one has to extend the
definition of reality beyond the infinite cosmos of material reality is, of
itself, conclusive proof that such a God does not exist as far as reality is
concerned.
As far as the imagination is concerned, anything is possible, which makes
the imagination an unreliable source of information.
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| User: "Ian Braidwood" |
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| Title: Re: --- So, there is GOD! |
27 Jan 2005 03:38:20 AM |
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Hmmm...
If an atheist is someone who lacks beleif in God, then if there were no
concept of God, there would be no believers and everyone would be an
atheist.
Of course the word atheist wouldn't exist, but they would still comply
with the definition as we know it.
Therefore, I think Chesterton was just plain wrong.
(-: Ian :-)
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| User: "Gerard van Wilgen" |
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| Title: Re: --- So, there is GOD! |
26 Jan 2005 05:15:35 AM |
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Yjk Ooo wrote:
<?>---said:
"If there were no God, there would be no Atheists."
[en]
If there were no Olympian gods, there would be no atheists, Christians,
Mahommedans, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs, etc.
So, Jupiter, Hera, Apollo, Athena and all the other Greek gods exist!
[eo]
Se ne estus olimpiaj dioj, ne estus ateistoj, kristanoj, mahometanoj,
judoj, hindoj, budaistoj, sikoj, k.t.p.
Do, Jupitro, Herao, Apolono, Ateno kaj chiuj aliaj grekaj dioj ekzistas!
Gerard van Wilgen
www.majstro.com
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