Religions > Atheism > ***** ALERT: Archaeologists may have uncovered King David's mythical palace
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***** ALERT: Archaeologists may have uncovered King David's mythical palace |
"The project was funded by the ultranationalist Shalem center, whose
chief archaeologist Eliat Mazar claims the palace could be the
mythical palace given to King David
However, other Israeli archaeologists have contested her claim."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050805/wl_mideast_afp/israeljerusalem_050805182504
Archaeologists may have uncovered King David's mythical palace
JERUSALEM (AFP) - Israeli archaeologists claim to have uncovered what
they believe may be the fabled palace of the biblical King David
during secret excavations in east Jerusalem.
The ruins of a palace were uncovered over around 30 metres (yards) in
Silwan, the oldest site in Jerusalem, archaeology professor Gabriel
Barkai told AFP Friday.
The palace itself is thought to be 30 centuries old.
Archaeologists found on a slightly more recent layer the seal in
ancient Hebrew of a notable mentioned in the Old Testament's book of
Jeremiah.
The project was funded by the ultranationalist Shalem center, whose
chief archaeologist Eliat Mazar claims the palace could be the
mythical palace given to King David by the King of Tyre to thank him
for his wars against the Philistines.
However, other Israeli archaeologists have contested her claim.
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| User: "Atheist Plunder" |
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| Title: Re: ***** ALERT: Archaeologists may have uncovered King David's mythical palace |
05 Aug 2005 02:14:12 PM |
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"Johnny Asia" <poki_pongo at yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:p9d7f1pjtn603fed4rvue99c85bqj372rs@4ax.com...
"The project was funded by the ultranationalist Shalem center, whose
chief archaeologist Eliat Mazar claims the palace could be the
mythical palace given to King David
However, other Israeli archaeologists have contested her claim."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050805/wl_mideast_afp/israeljerusalem_050805182504
Archaeologists may have uncovered King David's mythical palace
Looks as though the archeologists may have found something.
Can you quantify as to why you believe it to be "mythical" from an
evidentiary standpoint?
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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05 Aug 2005 02:20:11 PM |
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Atheist Plunder wrote:
"Johnny Asia" <poki_pongo at yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:p9d7f1pjtn603fed4rvue99c85bqj372rs@4ax.com...
"The project was funded by the ultranationalist Shalem center, whose
chief archaeologist Eliat Mazar claims the palace could be the
mythical palace given to King David
However, other Israeli archaeologists have contested her claim."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050805/wl_mideast_afp/israeljerusalem_050805182504
Archaeologists may have uncovered King David's mythical palace
Looks as though the archeologists may have found something.
Keyword here is "may."
Can you quantify as to why you believe it to be "mythical" from an
evidentiary standpoint?
It hasn't been proven to be true yet. And there are people that are
contesting the findings. I am withholding judgement.
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
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* "No one ever demonstrated, so far as I am aware, *
* the non-existence of Zeus or Thor - but they *
* have few followers now." Arthur C. Clarke *
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| User: "Atheist Plunder" |
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05 Aug 2005 02:24:49 PM |
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"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:LZOIe.481$z%.4@trnddc02...
Atheist Plunder wrote:
"Johnny Asia" <poki_pongo at yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:p9d7f1pjtn603fed4rvue99c85bqj372rs@4ax.com...
"The project was funded by the ultranationalist Shalem center, whose
chief archaeologist Eliat Mazar claims the palace could be the
mythical palace given to King David
However, other Israeli archaeologists have contested her claim."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050805/wl_mideast_afp/israeljerusalem_050805182504
Archaeologists may have uncovered King David's mythical palace
Looks as though the archeologists may have found something.
Keyword here is "may."
Can you quantify as to why you believe it to be "mythical" from an
evidentiary standpoint?
It hasn't been proven to be true yet. And there are people that are
contesting the findings. I am withholding judgement.
Though it hasn't been proving the atheist mouths off once again passing
their myopic judgment(***** alert) before the facts.
That was my point Daniel.
Yet they claim to be *intelligent*
See the dichotomy here?
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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05 Aug 2005 03:20:34 PM |
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Atheist Plunder wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:LZOIe.481$z%.4@trnddc02...
Atheist Plunder wrote:
"Johnny Asia" <poki_pongo at yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:p9d7f1pjtn603fed4rvue99c85bqj372rs@4ax.com...
"The project was funded by the ultranationalist Shalem center, whose
chief archaeologist Eliat Mazar claims the palace could be the
mythical palace given to King David
However, other Israeli archaeologists have contested her claim."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050805/wl_mideast_afp/israeljerusalem_050805182504
Archaeologists may have uncovered King David's mythical palace
Looks as though the archeologists may have found something.
Keyword here is "may."
Can you quantify as to why you believe it to be "mythical" from an
evidentiary standpoint?
It hasn't been proven to be true yet. And there are people that are
contesting the findings. I am withholding judgement.
Though it hasn't been proving the atheist mouths off once again passing
their myopic judgment(***** alert) before the facts.
Except that it hasn't been proven yet. Therefore, until it has been
proven, it is "*****" in a lot of people's eyes. However, you
implying that all atheists are "mouthing off" is incorrect.
That was my point Daniel.
Yet they claim to be *intelligent*
Yes.
See the dichotomy here?
No. There is no dichotomy.
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
*--------------------------------------------------*
* "No one ever demonstrated, so far as I am aware, *
* the non-existence of Zeus or Thor - but they *
* have few followers now." Arthur C. Clarke *
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| User: "Atheist Plunder" |
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| Title: Re: ***** ALERT: Archaeologists may have uncovered King David's mythical palace |
05 Aug 2005 03:27:15 PM |
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"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:mSPIe.1411$iE.249@trnddc06...
Atheist Plunder wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:LZOIe.481$z%.4@trnddc02...
Atheist Plunder wrote:
"Johnny Asia" <poki_pongo at yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:p9d7f1pjtn603fed4rvue99c85bqj372rs@4ax.com...
"The project was funded by the ultranationalist Shalem center, whose
chief archaeologist Eliat Mazar claims the palace could be the
mythical palace given to King David
However, other Israeli archaeologists have contested her claim."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050805/wl_mideast_afp/israeljerusalem_050805182504
Archaeologists may have uncovered King David's mythical palace
Looks as though the archeologists may have found something.
Keyword here is "may."
Can you quantify as to why you believe it to be "mythical" from an
evidentiary standpoint?
It hasn't been proven to be true yet. And there are people that are
contesting the findings. I am withholding judgement.
Though it hasn't been proving the atheist mouths off once again passing
their myopic judgment(***** alert) before the facts.
Except that it hasn't been proven yet. Therefore, until it has been
proven, it is "*****" in a lot of people's eyes.
(snip)
Like the belief there is no God?
That was my point Daniel.
Yet they claim to be *intelligent*
Yes.
See the dichotomy here?
No. There is no dichotomy.
Look again
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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| Title: Re: ***** ALERT: Archaeologists may have uncovered King David'smythical palace |
05 Aug 2005 03:46:55 PM |
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Atheist Plunder wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:mSPIe.1411$iE.249@trnddc06...
Atheist Plunder wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:LZOIe.481$z%.4@trnddc02...
Atheist Plunder wrote:
"Johnny Asia" <poki_pongo at yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:p9d7f1pjtn603fed4rvue99c85bqj372rs@4ax.com...
"The project was funded by the ultranationalist Shalem center, whose
chief archaeologist Eliat Mazar claims the palace could be the
mythical palace given to King David
However, other Israeli archaeologists have contested her claim."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050805/wl_mideast_afp/israeljerusalem_050805182504
Archaeologists may have uncovered King David's mythical palace
Looks as though the archeologists may have found something.
Keyword here is "may."
Can you quantify as to why you believe it to be "mythical" from an
evidentiary standpoint?
It hasn't been proven to be true yet. And there are people that are
contesting the findings. I am withholding judgement.
Though it hasn't been proving the atheist mouths off once again passing
their myopic judgment(***** alert) before the facts.
Except that it hasn't been proven yet. Therefore, until it has been
proven, it is "*****" in a lot of people's eyes.
(snip)
Like the belief there is no God?
The majority of atheists do not have the belief that there is no God.
That was my point Daniel.
Yet they claim to be *intelligent*
Yes.
See the dichotomy here?
No. There is no dichotomy.
Look again
I have. Many times. I still see no dichotomy.
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
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* "No one ever demonstrated, so far as I am aware, *
* the non-existence of Zeus or Thor - but they *
* have few followers now." Arthur C. Clarke *
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| User: "Atheist Plunder" |
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05 Aug 2005 03:59:31 PM |
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"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:3fQIe.1429$iE.575@trnddc06...
Atheist Plunder wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:mSPIe.1411$iE.249@trnddc06...
Atheist Plunder wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:LZOIe.481$z%.4@trnddc02...
Atheist Plunder wrote:
"Johnny Asia" <poki_pongo at yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:p9d7f1pjtn603fed4rvue99c85bqj372rs@4ax.com...
"The project was funded by the ultranationalist Shalem center, whose
chief archaeologist Eliat Mazar claims the palace could be the
mythical palace given to King David
However, other Israeli archaeologists have contested her claim."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050805/wl_mideast_afp/israeljerusalem_050805182504
Archaeologists may have uncovered King David's mythical palace
Looks as though the archeologists may have found something.
Keyword here is "may."
Can you quantify as to why you believe it to be "mythical" from an
evidentiary standpoint?
It hasn't been proven to be true yet. And there are people that are
contesting the findings. I am withholding judgement.
Though it hasn't been proving the atheist mouths off once again passing
their myopic judgment(***** alert) before the facts.
Except that it hasn't been proven yet. Therefore, until it has been
proven, it is "*****" in a lot of people's eyes.
(snip)
Like the belief there is no God?
The majority of atheists do not have the belief that there is no God.
That was my point Daniel.
Yet they claim to be *intelligent*
Yes.
See the dichotomy here?
No. There is no dichotomy.
Look again
I have. Many times. I still see no dichotomy.
Get your glasses
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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| Title: Re: ***** ALERT: Archaeologists may have uncovered King David'smythical palace |
06 Aug 2005 01:34:09 AM |
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Atheist Plunder wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:3fQIe.1429$iE.575@trnddc06...
Atheist Plunder wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:mSPIe.1411$iE.249@trnddc06...
Atheist Plunder wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:LZOIe.481$z%.4@trnddc02...
Atheist Plunder wrote:
"Johnny Asia" <poki_pongo at yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:p9d7f1pjtn603fed4rvue99c85bqj372rs@4ax.com...
"The project was funded by the ultranationalist Shalem center, whose
chief archaeologist Eliat Mazar claims the palace could be the
mythical palace given to King David
However, other Israeli archaeologists have contested her claim."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050805/wl_mideast_afp/israeljerusalem_050805182504
Archaeologists may have uncovered King David's mythical palace
Looks as though the archeologists may have found something.
Keyword here is "may."
Can you quantify as to why you believe it to be "mythical" from an
evidentiary standpoint?
It hasn't been proven to be true yet. And there are people that are
contesting the findings. I am withholding judgement.
Though it hasn't been proving the atheist mouths off once again passing
their myopic judgment(***** alert) before the facts.
Except that it hasn't been proven yet. Therefore, until it has been
proven, it is "*****" in a lot of people's eyes.
(snip)
Like the belief there is no God?
The majority of atheists do not have the belief that there is no God.
That was my point Daniel.
Yet they claim to be *intelligent*
Yes.
See the dichotomy here?
No. There is no dichotomy.
Look again
I have. Many times. I still see no dichotomy.
Get your glasses
Don't need 'em. I've perfect 20/20 vision. :-D
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
*--------------------------------------------------*
* "No one ever demonstrated, so far as I am aware, *
* the non-existence of Zeus or Thor - but they *
* have few followers now." Arthur C. Clarke *
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| User: "Carta Philus" |
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| Title: Re: ***** ALERT: Archaeologists may have uncovered King David'smythical palace |
05 Aug 2005 03:05:42 PM |
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Atheist Plunder wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:LZOIe.481$z%.4@trnddc02...
Atheist Plunder wrote:
"Johnny Asia" <poki_pongo at yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:p9d7f1pjtn603fed4rvue99c85bqj372rs@4ax.com...
"The project was funded by the ultranationalist Shalem center, whose
chief archaeologist Eliat Mazar claims the palace could be the
mythical palace given to King David
However, other Israeli archaeologists have contested her claim."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050805/wl_mideast_afp/israeljerusalem_050805182504
Archaeologists may have uncovered King David's mythical palace
Looks as though the archeologists may have found something.
Keyword here is "may."
Can you quantify as to why you believe it to be "mythical" from an
evidentiary standpoint?
It hasn't been proven to be true yet. And there are people that are
contesting the findings. I am withholding judgement.
Though it hasn't been proving the atheist mouths off once again passing
their myopic judgment(***** alert) before the facts.
That was my point Daniel.
Yet they claim to be *intelligent*
See the dichotomy here?
Hey dumbass, he didn't lay crap on your sorry ***** like he should of,
and gave you the benefit of some doubt, which YOUR sorry ***** is in no
way due. Shutup *****.
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| User: "Atheist Plunder" |
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| Title: Re: ***** ALERT: Archaeologists may have uncovered King David's mythical palace |
05 Aug 2005 03:20:35 PM |
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"Carta Philus" <freeloader1990@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:11f7hm5ec3319d@corp.supernews.com...
Atheist Plunder wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:LZOIe.481$z%.4@trnddc02...
Atheist Plunder wrote:
"Johnny Asia" <poki_pongo at yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:p9d7f1pjtn603fed4rvue99c85bqj372rs@4ax.com...
"The project was funded by the ultranationalist Shalem center, whose
chief archaeologist Eliat Mazar claims the palace could be the
mythical palace given to King David
However, other Israeli archaeologists have contested her claim."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050805/wl_mideast_afp/israeljerusalem_050805182504
Archaeologists may have uncovered King David's mythical palace
Looks as though the archeologists may have found something.
Keyword here is "may."
Inoperative word in the subject is *******
Can you quantify as to why you believe it to be "mythical" from an
evidentiary standpoint?
It hasn't been proven to be true yet. And there are people that are
contesting the findings. I am withholding judgement.
Though it hasn't been proving the atheist mouths off once again passing
their myopic judgment(***** alert) before the facts.
That was my point Daniel.
Yet they claim to be *intelligent*
See the dichotomy here?
Hey dumbass, he didn't lay crap on your sorry ***** like he should of,
and gave you the benefit of some doubt, which YOUR sorry ***** is in no
way due. Shutup *****.
Dear Retard,
Bless the union of the idiot and his personal computer and keep the fools a
coming Ahmen :)
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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| Title: Re: ***** ALERT: Archaeologists may have uncovered King David'smythical palace |
05 Aug 2005 03:41:07 PM |
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Atheist Plunder wrote:
"Carta Philus" <freeloader1990@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:11f7hm5ec3319d@corp.supernews.com...
Atheist Plunder wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:LZOIe.481$z%.4@trnddc02...
Atheist Plunder wrote:
"Johnny Asia" <poki_pongo at yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:p9d7f1pjtn603fed4rvue99c85bqj372rs@4ax.com...
"The project was funded by the ultranationalist Shalem center, whose
chief archaeologist Eliat Mazar claims the palace could be the
mythical palace given to King David
However, other Israeli archaeologists have contested her claim."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050805/wl_mideast_afp/israeljerusalem_050805182504
Archaeologists may have uncovered King David's mythical palace
Looks as though the archeologists may have found something.
Keyword here is "may."
Inoperative word in the subject is *******
"*****," an adjective modifying the "uncovered King David's palace" part.
Can you quantify as to why you believe it to be "mythical" from an
evidentiary standpoint?
It hasn't been proven to be true yet. And there are people that are
contesting the findings. I am withholding judgement.
Though it hasn't been proving the atheist mouths off once again passing
their myopic judgment(***** alert) before the facts.
That was my point Daniel.
Yet they claim to be *intelligent*
See the dichotomy here?
Hey dumbass, he didn't lay crap on your sorry ***** like he should of,
and gave you the benefit of some doubt, which YOUR sorry ***** is in no
way due. Shutup *****.
Dear Retard,
Bless the union of the idiot and his personal computer and keep the fools a
coming Ahmen :)
Yes. Pity that folks like you keep a-coming, right?
--
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
*--------------------------------------------------*
* "No one ever demonstrated, so far as I am aware, *
* the non-existence of Zeus or Thor - but they *
* have few followers now." Arthur C. Clarke *
****************************************************
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| User: "Atheist Plunder" |
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| Title: Re: ***** ALERT: Archaeologists may have uncovered King David's mythical palace |
05 Aug 2005 03:43:03 PM |
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"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:D9QIe.1427$iE.461@trnddc06...
Atheist Plunder wrote:
"Carta Philus" <freeloader1990@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:11f7hm5ec3319d@corp.supernews.com...
Atheist Plunder wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:LZOIe.481$z%.4@trnddc02...
Atheist Plunder wrote:
"Johnny Asia" <poki_pongo at yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:p9d7f1pjtn603fed4rvue99c85bqj372rs@4ax.com...
"The project was funded by the ultranationalist Shalem center, whose
chief archaeologist Eliat Mazar claims the palace could be the
mythical palace given to King David
However, other Israeli archaeologists have contested her claim."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050805/wl_mideast_afp/israeljerusalem_050805182504
Archaeologists may have uncovered King David's mythical palace
Looks as though the archeologists may have found something.
Keyword here is "may."
Inoperative word in the subject is *******
"*****," an adjective modifying the "uncovered King David's palace"
part.
Inoperative word is the definition of *******
Can you quantify as to why you believe it to be "mythical" from an
evidentiary standpoint?
It hasn't been proven to be true yet. And there are people that are
contesting the findings. I am withholding judgement.
Though it hasn't been proving the atheist mouths off once again passing
their myopic judgment(***** alert) before the facts.
That was my point Daniel.
Yet they claim to be *intelligent*
See the dichotomy here?
Hey dumbass, he didn't lay crap on your sorry ***** like he should of,
and gave you the benefit of some doubt, which YOUR sorry ***** is in no
way due. Shutup *****.
Dear Retard,
Bless the union of the idiot and his personal computer and keep the fools
a coming Ahmen :)
Yes. Pity that folks like you keep a-coming, right?
Now, please, do everyone a favor and either think of something intelligent
to say, or don't say it at all. Or just be as stupid as everyone is
convinced you are, and flame me again. I do so love publicly humiliating
morons on this newsgroup.
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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| Title: Re: ***** ALERT: Archaeologists may have uncovered King David'smythical palace |
05 Aug 2005 03:52:07 PM |
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Atheist Plunder wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:D9QIe.1427$iE.461@trnddc06...
Atheist Plunder wrote:
"Carta Philus" <freeloader1990@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:11f7hm5ec3319d@corp.supernews.com...
Atheist Plunder wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:LZOIe.481$z%.4@trnddc02...
Atheist Plunder wrote:
"Johnny Asia" <poki_pongo at yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:p9d7f1pjtn603fed4rvue99c85bqj372rs@4ax.com...
"The project was funded by the ultranationalist Shalem center, whose
chief archaeologist Eliat Mazar claims the palace could be the
mythical palace given to King David
However, other Israeli archaeologists have contested her claim."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050805/wl_mideast_afp/israeljerusalem_050805182504
Archaeologists may have uncovered King David's mythical palace
Looks as though the archeologists may have found something.
Keyword here is "may."
Inoperative word in the subject is *******
"*****," an adjective modifying the "uncovered King David's palace"
part.
Inoperative word is the definition of *******
Nope. Adjectives are not inoperative.
Can you quantify as to why you believe it to be "mythical" from an
evidentiary standpoint?
It hasn't been proven to be true yet. And there are people that are
contesting the findings. I am withholding judgement.
Though it hasn't been proving the atheist mouths off once again passing
their myopic judgment(***** alert) before the facts.
That was my point Daniel.
Yet they claim to be *intelligent*
See the dichotomy here?
Hey dumbass, he didn't lay crap on your sorry ***** like he should of,
and gave you the benefit of some doubt, which YOUR sorry ***** is in no
way due. Shutup *****.
Dear Retard,
Bless the union of the idiot and his personal computer and keep the fools
a coming Ahmen :)
Yes. Pity that folks like you keep a-coming, right?
Now, please, do everyone a favor and either think of something intelligent
to say, or don't say it at all. Or just be as stupid as everyone is
convinced you are, and flame me again. I do so love publicly humiliating
morons on this newsgroup.
This newsgroup? Alt.atheism? You are the one coming into alt.atheism,
posting your flamebaiting hatred against atheists.
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
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* "No one ever demonstrated, so far as I am aware, *
* the non-existence of Zeus or Thor - but they *
* have few followers now." Arthur C. Clarke *
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05 Aug 2005 03:59:10 PM |
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"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:XjQIe.1435$iE.993@trnddc06...
Atheist Plunder wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:D9QIe.1427$iE.461@trnddc06...
Atheist Plunder wrote:
"Carta Philus" <freeloader1990@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:11f7hm5ec3319d@corp.supernews.com...
Atheist Plunder wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:LZOIe.481$z%.4@trnddc02...
Atheist Plunder wrote:
"Johnny Asia" <poki_pongo at yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:p9d7f1pjtn603fed4rvue99c85bqj372rs@4ax.com...
"The project was funded by the ultranationalist Shalem center,
whose
chief archaeologist Eliat Mazar claims the palace could be the
mythical palace given to King David
However, other Israeli archaeologists have contested her claim."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050805/wl_mideast_afp/israeljerusalem_050805182504
Archaeologists may have uncovered King David's mythical palace
Looks as though the archeologists may have found something.
Keyword here is "may."
Inoperative word in the subject is *******
"*****," an adjective modifying the "uncovered King David's palace"
part.
Inoperative word is the definition of *******
Nope. Adjectives are not inoperative.
No,but your definition of ****** certainly is :)
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06 Aug 2005 01:33:48 AM |
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Atheist Plunder wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:XjQIe.1435$iE.993@trnddc06...
Atheist Plunder wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:D9QIe.1427$iE.461@trnddc06...
Atheist Plunder wrote:
"Carta Philus" <freeloader1990@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:11f7hm5ec3319d@corp.supernews.com...
Atheist Plunder wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:LZOIe.481$z%.4@trnddc02...
Atheist Plunder wrote:
"Johnny Asia" <poki_pongo at yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:p9d7f1pjtn603fed4rvue99c85bqj372rs@4ax.com...
"The project was funded by the ultranationalist Shalem center,
whose
chief archaeologist Eliat Mazar claims the palace could be the
mythical palace given to King David
However, other Israeli archaeologists have contested her claim."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050805/wl_mideast_afp/israeljerusalem_050805182504
Archaeologists may have uncovered King David's mythical palace
Looks as though the archeologists may have found something.
Keyword here is "may."
Inoperative word in the subject is *******
"*****," an adjective modifying the "uncovered King David's palace"
part.
Inoperative word is the definition of *******
Nope. Adjectives are not inoperative.
No,but your definition of ****** certainly is :)
"*****" can be an adjective. :-)
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
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* "No one ever demonstrated, so far as I am aware, *
* the non-existence of Zeus or Thor - but they *
* have few followers now." Arthur C. Clarke *
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| User: "John Baker" |
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06 Aug 2005 04:54:47 AM |
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On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 20:41:07 GMT, DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote:
Atheist Plunder wrote:
"Carta Philus" <freeloader1990@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:11f7hm5ec3319d@corp.supernews.com...
Atheist Plunder wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:LZOIe.481$z%.4@trnddc02...
Atheist Plunder wrote:
"Johnny Asia" <poki_pongo at yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:p9d7f1pjtn603fed4rvue99c85bqj372rs@4ax.com...
"The project was funded by the ultranationalist Shalem center, whose
chief archaeologist Eliat Mazar claims the palace could be the
mythical palace given to King David
However, other Israeli archaeologists have contested her claim."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050805/wl_mideast_afp/israeljerusalem_050805182504
Archaeologists may have uncovered King David's mythical palace
Looks as though the archeologists may have found something.
Keyword here is "may."
Inoperative word in the subject is *******
"*****," an adjective modifying the "uncovered King David's palace" part.
Can you quantify as to why you believe it to be "mythical" from an
evidentiary standpoint?
It hasn't been proven to be true yet. And there are people that are
contesting the findings. I am withholding judgement.
Though it hasn't been proving the atheist mouths off once again passing
their myopic judgment(***** alert) before the facts.
That was my point Daniel.
Yet they claim to be *intelligent*
See the dichotomy here?
Hey dumbass, he didn't lay crap on your sorry ***** like he should of,
and gave you the benefit of some doubt, which YOUR sorry ***** is in no
way due. Shutup *****.
Dear Retard,
Bless the union of the idiot and his personal computer and keep the fools a
coming Ahmen :)
Yes. Pity that folks like you keep a-coming, right?
A curse upon the houses of Jobs and Gates unto the thousandth generation for
making using a computer so easy that even a total moron like Raytard can flaunt
his stupidity before the world. <G>
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05 Aug 2005 05:14:00 PM |
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Johnny Asia wrote:
"The project was funded by the ultranationalist Shalem center, whose
chief archaeologist Eliat Mazar claims the palace could be the
mythical palace given to King David
However, other Israeli archaeologists have contested her claim."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050805/wl_mideast_afp/israeljerusalem_050805182504
Archaeologists may have uncovered King David's mythical palace
Atheist Alert: Pray hard that it turns out to be just your ordinary
3000 year old McMansion.
Denny
--
"There cannot be a God because, If there were one, I would
not believe that I were not He." - Friedrich Nietzsche
"My husband and I divorced over religious differences.
He thought he was God and I didn't." - Minny A. Spouse
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05 Aug 2005 07:49:10 PM |
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dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote in
news:42F3E4A8.CCE71DFE@nospam.net:
Johnny Asia wrote:
"The project was funded by the ultranationalist Shalem center, whose
chief archaeologist Eliat Mazar claims the palace could be the
mythical palace given to King David
However, other Israeli archaeologists have contested her claim."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050805/wl_mideast_afp/israeljerusalem_
05
0805182504
Archaeologists may have uncovered King David's mythical palace
Atheist Alert: Pray hard that it turns out to be just your ordinary
3000 year old McMansion.
Even if it does turn out to be King David's palace, so what? The
existence of Troy doesn't prove the existence of the Greek gods, does
it?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Why, it appears that we appointed all of our worst generals
to command the armies and we appointed all of our best generals
to edit the newspapers. I mean, I found by reading a newspaper
that these editor generals saw all of the defects plainly from
the start but didn't tell me until it was too late. I'm willing
to yield my place to these best generals and I'll do my best
for the cause by editing a newspaper."
Robert E. Lee
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| User: "Mike Andrade" |
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05 Aug 2005 08:12:16 PM |
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Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
news:1123289350.675b8a39f004e909a6f1b903d4886312@teranews:
dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote in
news:42F3E4A8.CCE71DFE@nospam.net:
Johnny Asia wrote:
"The project was funded by the ultranationalist Shalem center,
whose chief archaeologist Eliat Mazar claims the palace could be
the mythical palace given to King David
However, other Israeli archaeologists have contested her
claim."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050805/wl_mideast_afp/israeljerusal
em_
05
0805182504
Archaeologists may have uncovered King David's mythical palace
Atheist Alert: Pray hard that it turns out to be just your
ordinary 3000 year old McMansion.
Even if it does turn out to be King David's palace, so what? The
existence of Troy doesn't prove the existence of the Greek gods,
does it?
Hope so. I've got the biggest crush on Aphrodite.
--
Mike
Poets have been mysteriously silent on the subject of cheese.
- G.K. Chesterton
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05 Aug 2005 08:29:03 PM |
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Mike Andrade <ma@box.invalid> wrote in
news:Xns96A9D7F5938A2maboxinvalid@216.77.188.18:
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
news:1123289350.675b8a39f004e909a6f1b903d4886312@teranews:
dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote in
news:42F3E4A8.CCE71DFE@nospam.net:
Johnny Asia wrote:
"The project was funded by the ultranationalist Shalem center,
whose chief archaeologist Eliat Mazar claims the palace could be
the mythical palace given to King David
However, other Israeli archaeologists have contested her
claim."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050805/wl_mideast_afp/israeljerusal
em_
05
0805182504
Archaeologists may have uncovered King David's mythical palace
Atheist Alert: Pray hard that it turns out to be just your
ordinary 3000 year old McMansion.
Even if it does turn out to be King David's palace, so what? The
existence of Troy doesn't prove the existence of the Greek gods,
does it?
Hope so. I've got the biggest crush on Aphrodite.
Oh, well, now *her* existence is undeniable. I once worked at a temple
of Aphrodite and Bacchus.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Why, it appears that we appointed all of our worst generals
to command the armies and we appointed all of our best generals
to edit the newspapers. I mean, I found by reading a newspaper
that these editor generals saw all of the defects plainly from
the start but didn't tell me until it was too late. I'm willing
to yield my place to these best generals and I'll do my best
for the cause by editing a newspaper."
Robert E. Lee
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| User: "Olrik" |
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| Title: Re: ***** ALERT: Archaeologists may have uncovered King David'smythical palace |
05 Aug 2005 11:39:25 PM |
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dgillesp wrote:
Johnny Asia wrote:
"The project was funded by the ultranationalist Shalem center, whose
chief archaeologist Eliat Mazar claims the palace could be the
mythical palace given to King David
However, other Israeli archaeologists have contested her claim."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050805/wl_mideast_afp/israeljerusalem_050805182504
Archaeologists may have uncovered King David's mythical palace
Atheist Alert: Pray hard that it turns out to be just your ordinary
3000 year old McMansion.
Denny
Denny, the problem is that some people with an agenda try to pin any
archeological finds to the bible. Even if some of those finds *are*
related to stories in the bible does *not* make the bible "true".
Imagine if, in a couple of thousands of years, people found books from
James Michener and decided they were all "true" because he got a lot of
facts right...
--
Olrik
aa #1981
Qualified SMASH member
EAC Chief Food Inspector, Bacon Division
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| User: "dgillesp" |
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| Title: Re: ***** ALERT: Archaeologists may have uncovered KingDavid'smythical palace |
06 Aug 2005 08:13:12 AM |
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Olrik wrote:
dgillesp wrote:
Johnny Asia wrote:
"The project was funded by the ultranationalist Shalem center, whose
chief archaeologist Eliat Mazar claims the palace could be the
mythical palace given to King David
However, other Israeli archaeologists have contested her claim."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050805/wl_mideast_afp/israeljerusalem_050805182504
Archaeologists may have uncovered King David's mythical palace
Atheist Alert: Pray hard that it turns out to be just your ordinary
3000 year old McMansion.
Denny
Denny, the problem is that some people with an agenda try to pin any
archeological finds to the bible. Even if some of those finds *are*
related to stories in the bible does *not* make the bible "true".
Point taken. However the "truth" of the Bible is essentially
theological, rather than historical, scientific, geological, or
archaeological. It's basically a witness to the rocky love affair
between God and man that progresses from very primitive and at times
barbaric human misunderstandings to the revelation that He is "the God
and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ." In other words, He is like Jesus
Christ, the human face of God. E.g., would Jesus bomb Iraq? - is a
ridiculous question.
Imagine if, in a couple of thousands of years, people found books from
James Michener and decided they were all "true" because he got a lot of
facts right...
But Michener's understanding and portrayal of our basic human condition
with man's successes, failures and foibles will likely remain just as
true in a couple thousand years. Human nature doesn't really change.
The "facts" are for the most part incidental, whether accurate or
inaccurate.
--
Olrik
aa #1981
Qualified SMASH member
EAC Chief Food Inspector, Bacon Division
Denny
--
"There cannot be a God because, If there were one, I would
not believe that I were not He." - Friedrich Nietzsche
"My husband and I divorced over religious differences.
He thought he was God and I didn't." - Minny A. Spouse
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| User: "thomas p" |
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| Title: Re: ***** ALERT: Archaeologists may have uncovered King David'smythical palace |
07 Aug 2005 03:27:37 PM |
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On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 09:13:12 -0400, dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net>
wrote:
Olrik wrote:
dgillesp wrote:
Johnny Asia wrote:
"The project was funded by the ultranationalist Shalem center, whose
chief archaeologist Eliat Mazar claims the palace could be the
mythical palace given to King David
However, other Israeli archaeologists have contested her claim."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050805/wl_mideast_afp/israeljerusalem_050805182504
Archaeologists may have uncovered King David's mythical palace
Atheist Alert: Pray hard that it turns out to be just your ordinary
3000 year old McMansion.
Denny
Denny, the problem is that some people with an agenda try to pin any
archeological finds to the bible. Even if some of those finds *are*
related to stories in the bible does *not* make the bible "true".
Point taken. However the "truth" of the Bible is essentially
theological, rather than historical, scientific, geological, or
archaeological. It's basically a witness to the rocky love affair
between God and man that progresses from very primitive and at times
barbaric human misunderstandings to the revelation that He is "the God
and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ."
How do you know that?
In other words, He is like Jesus
Christ, the human face of God. E.g., would Jesus bomb Iraq? - is a
ridiculous question.
Imagine if, in a couple of thousands of years, people found books from
James Michener and decided they were all "true" because he got a lot of
facts right...
But Michener's understanding and portrayal of our basic human condition
with man's successes, failures and foibles will likely remain just as
true in a couple thousand years. Human nature doesn't really change.
The "facts" are for the most part incidental, whether accurate or
inaccurate.
What are the facts of the Bible, and how do you know they are facts?
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
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| User: "dgillesp" |
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| Title: Re: ***** ALERT: Archaeologists may have uncovered KingDavid'smythical palace |
07 Aug 2005 03:48:46 PM |
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thomas p wrote:
On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 09:13:12 -0400, dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net>
wrote:
Olrik wrote:
dgillesp wrote:
Johnny Asia wrote:
"The project was funded by the ultranationalist Shalem center, whose
chief archaeologist Eliat Mazar claims the palace could be the
mythical palace given to King David
However, other Israeli archaeologists have contested her claim."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050805/wl_mideast_afp/israeljerusalem_050805182504
Archaeologists may have uncovered King David's mythical palace
Atheist Alert: Pray hard that it turns out to be just your ordinary
3000 year old McMansion.
Denny
Denny, the problem is that some people with an agenda try to pin any
archeological finds to the bible. Even if some of those finds *are*
related to stories in the bible does *not* make the bible "true".
Point taken. However the "truth" of the Bible is essentially
theological, rather than historical, scientific, geological, or
archaeological. It's basically a witness to the rocky love affair
between God and man that progresses from very primitive and at times
barbaric human misunderstandings to the revelation that He is "the God
and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ."
How do you know that?
Read the book and see for yourself.
In other words, He is like Jesus
Christ, the human face of God. E.g., would Jesus bomb Iraq? - is a
ridiculous question.
Imagine if, in a couple of thousands of years, people found books from
James Michener and decided they were all "true" because he got a lot of
facts right...
But Michener's understanding and portrayal of our basic human condition
with man's successes, failures and foibles will likely remain just as
true in a couple thousand years. Human nature doesn't really change.
The "facts" are for the most part incidental, whether accurate or
inaccurate.
What are the facts of the Bible, and how do you know they are facts?
Wrong question. Not "did that really happen", but "What does that
mean?" Meaning takes precedence over verifiable cold hard facts.
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
Denny
--
"There cannot be a God because, If there were one, I would
not believe that I were not He." - Friedrich Nietzsche
"My husband and I divorced over religious differences.
He thought he was God and I didn't." - Minny A. Spouse
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| User: "thomas p" |
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| Title: Re: ***** ALERT: Archaeologists may have uncovered King David'smythical palace |
08 Aug 2005 02:37:50 AM |
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On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 16:48:46 -0400, dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net>
wrote:
thomas p wrote:
On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 09:13:12 -0400, dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net>
wrote:
Olrik wrote:
dgillesp wrote:
Johnny Asia wrote:
"The project was funded by the ultranationalist Shalem center, whose
chief archaeologist Eliat Mazar claims the palace could be the
mythical palace given to King David
However, other Israeli archaeologists have contested her claim."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050805/wl_mideast_afp/israeljerusalem_050805182504
Archaeologists may have uncovered King David's mythical palace
Atheist Alert: Pray hard that it turns out to be just your ordinary
3000 year old McMansion.
Denny
Denny, the problem is that some people with an agenda try to pin any
archeological finds to the bible. Even if some of those finds *are*
related to stories in the bible does *not* make the bible "true".
Point taken. However the "truth" of the Bible is essentially
theological, rather than historical, scientific, geological, or
archaeological. It's basically a witness to the rocky love affair
between God and man that progresses from very primitive and at times
barbaric human misunderstandings to the revelation that He is "the God
and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ."
How do you know that?
Read the book and see for yourself.
I have. Can you answer the question?
In other words, He is like Jesus
Christ, the human face of God. E.g., would Jesus bomb Iraq? - is a
ridiculous question.
Imagine if, in a couple of thousands of years, people found books from
James Michener and decided they were all "true" because he got a lot of
facts right...
But Michener's understanding and portrayal of our basic human condition
with man's successes, failures and foibles will likely remain just as
true in a couple thousand years. Human nature doesn't really change.
The "facts" are for the most part incidental, whether accurate or
inaccurate.
What are the facts of the Bible, and how do you know they are facts?
Wrong question. Not "did that really happen", but "What does that
mean?" Meaning takes precedence over verifiable cold hard facts.
Tap - Tap.
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
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| User: "Panama Floyd" |
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| Title: Re: ***** ALERT: Archaeologists may have uncovered King David's mythical palace |
05 Aug 2005 06:56:28 PM |
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dgillesp wrote:
Johnny Asia wrote:
"The project was funded by the ultranationalist Shalem center, whose
chief archaeologist Eliat Mazar claims the palace could be the
mythical palace given to King David
However, other Israeli archaeologists have contested her claim."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050805/wl_mideast_afp/israeljerusalem_050805182504
Archaeologists may have uncovered King David's mythical palace
Atheist Alert: Pray hard that it turns out to be just your ordinary
3000 year old McMansion.
So the fact that New York exists is proof that Spiderman exists? Odd
logic, Denny. Cristians is da crrrayyziest peoples!
-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member KoB!
"..the prayer cloth on one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: ***** ALERT: Archaeologists may have uncovered King David's mythical palace |
05 Aug 2005 09:58:53 PM |
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"Panama Floyd" <panamaflyd@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1123286188.432005.315490@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
dgillesp wrote:
Johnny Asia wrote:
"The project was funded by the ultranationalist Shalem center, whose
chief archaeologist Eliat Mazar claims the palace could be the
mythical palace given to King David
However, other Israeli archaeologists have contested her claim."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050805/wl_mideast_afp/israeljerusalem_050805182504
Archaeologists may have uncovered King David's mythical palace
Atheist Alert: Pray hard that it turns out to be just your ordinary
3000 year old McMansion.
So the fact that New York exists is proof that Spiderman exists? Odd
logic, Denny. Cristians is da crrrayyziest peoples!
Well, I guess the fact that Secaucus, NJ exists means The Toxic Avenger
exists as well, no?
--
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
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| User: "Panama Floyd" |
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| Title: Re: ***** ALERT: Archaeologists may have uncovered King David's mythical palace |
06 Aug 2005 06:18:04 PM |
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Robibnikoff wrote:
"Panama Floyd" <panamaflyd@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1123286188.432005.315490@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
dgillesp wrote:
Johnny Asia wrote:
"The project was funded by the ultranationalist Shalem center, whose
chief archaeologist Eliat Mazar claims the palace could be the
mythical palace given to King David
However, other Israeli archaeologists have contested her claim."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050805/wl_mideast_afp/israeljerusalem_050805182504
Archaeologists may have uncovered King David's mythical palace
Atheist Alert: Pray hard that it turns out to be just your ordinary
3000 year old McMansion.
So the fact that New York exists is proof that Spiderman exists? Odd
logic, Denny. Cristians is da crrrayyziest peoples!
Well, I guess the fact that Secaucus, NJ exists means The Toxic Avenger
exists as well, no?
--
Yes, and I've often heard "Gotham" used as a nick-name for New York, so
I suppose Batman is real, too! I wonder how long we could keep going by
using CHRISTUN LOGICK(tm)!
-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
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