| Topic: |
Religions > Atheism |
| User: |
"= Vox Populi ©" |
| Date: |
24 Feb 2004 12:47:14 AM |
| Object: |
=> As God Told Me ... Mel, you'll burn in Hell ... <= |
As God Told Me ...
Feb. 22, 2004
A weekly commentary by CBS News Correspondent Andy Rooney.
It doesn't seem right, but religion has been in the news a lot recently.
Pat Robertson says that God has spoken to him and told him that George W. Bush
will be re-elected because he deserves to be.
Here's Pat Robertson's exact quote: "I think George Bush is going to win in a
walk. I'm hearing from the Lord that it's going to be a blowout."
The movie by Mel Gibson called "The Passion of the Christ" is the other
religious issue in the news. Everyone's talking about that. The question is
whether the Jews killed Jesus Christ - who was Jewish, of course.
I hadn't wanted to say anything about this, because it seemed like a personal
matter, but Pat Robertson isn't the only one who has heard from God.
I heard from God just the other night. God always seems to call at night.
"Andrew," God said to me. He always calls me "Andrew." I like that.
"Andrew, you have the eyes and ears of a lot of people. I wish you'd tell your
viewers that both Pat Robertson and Mel Gibson strike me as wackos. I believe
that's one of your current words. They're crazy as bedbugs, another earthly
expression. I created bedbugs. I'll tell you, they're no crazier than people,"
said God.
"Let me just say that I think I'd remember if I'd ever talked to Pat Robertson,
and I'd remember if I said Bush would get re-elected in a blowout."
"As far as Mel Gibson goes, I haven't seen his movie, 'The Passion of the
Christ,' because it hasn't opened up here yet. But I did catch Gibson being
interviewed by Diane Sawyer. I did something right when I came up with her,
didn't I," added God. "Anyway, as I was saying, Mel is a real nut case. What in
the world was I thinking when I created him? Listen, we all make mistakes."
That is what God said to me. That's about all he did say to me because I'm sure
God has a lot more important things to do than talk to someone on television.
My own question to Pat Robertson is this: The election looks as though it could
be close, certainly not a blowout. If George W. Bush loses the election to a
Democrat, will you become an atheist?
My question to Mel Gibson is: "How many million dollars does it look as if
you're going to make off the crucifixion of Christ?"
.
|
|
| User: "FRANKIE LEE" |
|
| Title: PASSION OF CHRIST TRIUMPH. |
24 Feb 2004 03:16:12 AM |
|
|
Andy Rooney: Mel Gibson a 'nut case'
Satirical monologue suggests 'wacko' filmmaker motivated by greed
Frankie's clear analysis:
Christians believe the bible.That is known by all.Mel's film,true to its
historical accounts of Christ,obviously were very much welcome and accepted
by all CHRISTIAN.The passion of Christ's film,and the famous Last Supper
Protrait,were appreciated again by Christians.
Who then would be so sarcastics,nasty and opposed the Mel's film,portraying
Jesus hours of crucifixion,and His love for humanity,by sacrificing Himself
so that all men need not go to Hell but is given an opportunity to be saved.
For God so loved the World,including you,that you should not perish but
received Eternal life through His Son Jesus.
Such goodness of God and Charity of God,and Mel's played a role in getting
this message across,who would want to oppose and be negative about it?
It is Satan,and the those who hate Jesus;and those who are real nuts and
clowns.
Andy Rooney goes down as one of the nut.
The film did not have any Anti-semitic passions,and yet the slander goes so
deep that it is controversial,and said it had.
Moreover,the Evangelicals community,an ardent supporter of the Jews and
Isreal's sovereignty,gave thumbs up for the film,and yet the basless
suggestions continue,even through the BBC.Christians passions in reaching
out to all for the sake of their eternity destiny,is no secret at all.
Is Mel's motivated by greed to produce the film?What if it is true?Bear in
mind that Hollywood pundits declared that the film would be a flop,and
support was not forthcoming from them to Mel's.Even if it is a commercial
undertakings,what's wrong to go for monetary profit?Does man work for
nothing?With US 25 millions dollars out of his own pocket,the risk he
took,who on earth will ever begrudge Mel for taking or raking profits,if it
is the case?
The nuts present their worst incoherent case against Mel Gibson,was the
clearest evident of their immorality,slander and bigotry.These nuts just lov
e to parade before the world that as Intellectual nutty Professors.These
fellows shame themselves with their comments and illogical criticisms,and
will go down in history as too shameful and too immoral people.Would decent
people,and people who were awoken to senses buy their slanders?However,these
shameful nuts,inadvertently stir interests for the film,and incite market
for it,and it work for the good of the Film's message,the passion of Christ.
Who parade themselves as crazy people?
Christians believe in God,and of Christ the Messiah.It would be truly
strange if God do not talk to them,nor guide them to do things for Him.If
God is not in talking terms with His children,and His children is not
communicating with Him,then what religious nuts is in all these,who believe
in nothing,and out of sheer hypocrisy?It is natural for those who believe in
God,hears from God.
Like people who believe in Buddhist,Islam,and Cults,they too hear from their
gods,is it not?Do you mean that people who believe in their Faiths have no
real beliefs,but just toying around?
Since Andy,jokingly stated that his gods spoke to him,in clear terms,he is
joking,and doesn't believe in God.And if so,why bother to challenge others
with illogical reasonings,when he was once famous for being a reasonable and
logical person?
Inspired by jealousies,Andy states that Mel's is motivated by greed.The
success of Mel,and even Bush's Presidencies also drive nuts to become
incoherent and jealouse of them.The demons of jealousies eating their hearts
slowly by slowly,and now it was manisfested.
When Pope gave thumbs up for the films having preview it,suddenly a carnal
ggroup of nutty clergy men from Vatican also met and discuss whether to
approve the films.After considerations and insanity prevail,for they do not
seem to believe the Bible,yet preach it,declared that Pope was
"neutral".These Catholic had to tell lies[for all liars shall be thrown to
the Lake of Fires...words from Lord Jesus..] so that the world could see
their pattern of Pharisees and Sadducees's behaviour very very clearly.The
hypocrites in Christ's earthly days was rebuke throughly,and today that
similar pattern are emerge exactly.Well,it is the same demonic spirits.
Would you see the film after so much publicity given by the nuts and good
people?
You bet!
"=> Vox Populi ©" <vox@popu.li> wrote in message
news:_pC_b.138$%e4.70362@news.uswest.net...
As God Told Me ...
Feb. 22, 2004
A weekly commentary by CBS News Correspondent Andy Rooney.
It doesn't seem right, but religion has been in the news a lot recently.
Pat Robertson says that God has spoken to him and told him that George W.
Bush
will be re-elected because he deserves to be.
Here's Pat Robertson's exact quote: "I think George Bush is going to win
in a
walk. I'm hearing from the Lord that it's going to be a blowout."
The movie by Mel Gibson called "The Passion of the Christ" is the other
religious issue in the news. Everyone's talking about that. The question
is
whether the Jews killed Jesus Christ - who was Jewish, of course.
I hadn't wanted to say anything about this, because it seemed like a
personal
matter, but Pat Robertson isn't the only one who has heard from God.
I heard from God just the other night. God always seems to call at night.
"Andrew," God said to me. He always calls me "Andrew." I like that.
"Andrew, you have the eyes and ears of a lot of people. I wish you'd tell
your
viewers that both Pat Robertson and Mel Gibson strike me as wackos. I
believe
that's one of your current words. They're crazy as bedbugs, another
earthly
expression. I created bedbugs. I'll tell you, they're no crazier than
people,"
said God.
"Let me just say that I think I'd remember if I'd ever talked to Pat
Robertson,
and I'd remember if I said Bush would get re-elected in a blowout."
"As far as Mel Gibson goes, I haven't seen his movie, 'The Passion of the
Christ,' because it hasn't opened up here yet. But I did catch Gibson
being
interviewed by Diane Sawyer. I did something right when I came up with
her,
didn't I," added God. "Anyway, as I was saying, Mel is a real nut case.
What in
the world was I thinking when I created him? Listen, we all make
mistakes."
That is what God said to me. That's about all he did say to me because I'm
sure
God has a lot more important things to do than talk to someone on
television.
My own question to Pat Robertson is this: The election looks as though it
could
be close, certainly not a blowout. If George W. Bush loses the election to
a
Democrat, will you become an atheist?
My question to Mel Gibson is: "How many million dollars does it look as if
you're going to make off the crucifixion of Christ?"
.
|
|
|
| User: "Brenda Nelson" |
|
| Title: Re: PASSION OF CHRIST TRIUMPH. |
24 Feb 2004 03:26:42 PM |
|
|
"FRANKIE LEE" <s9641315@singnet.com.sg> wrote in message news:<c1f3l2$9cf$1@mawar.singnet.com.sg>...
<Snip stream-of-consciousness rant>
Frankie, darlin', stop drinkin' that bong water, y'hear me???
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
Chief Wrangler and Ramrod Emeritus
(and Professor of Feline Thermometrics)
EAC Equine Transportation Command/Carne Seca Division
in the Prefecture of Baja Arizona
.
|
|
|
| User: "Monist" |
|
| Title: Re: PASSION OF CHRIST TRIUMPH. |
24 Feb 2004 09:09:08 PM |
|
|
On 24 Feb 2004 13:26:42 -0800, (Brenda Nelson) wrote:
"FRANKIE LEE" <s9641315@singnet.com.sg> wrote in message news:<c1f3l2$9cf$1@mawar.singnet.com.sg>...
<Snip stream-of-consciousness rant>
Frankie, darlin', stop drinkin' that bong water, y'hear me???
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
David Denby, in the latest issue of the "New Yorker," evidently has seen
Gibsons's film and says it focuses almost wholly on the slow, deliberate torture of the
poor creature over a period of several (film) hours; a cornucopia of pleasure for sadists.
I suspect that the film not only will arouse strong hostility towards the Jewish
people, but also may start a backlash against Christianity just when America's involvement
in Iraq is under question.
Also, people's airy idea of the noble, glowing figure may get tarnished quite
badly. People are not that fond of adoring someone who has been bloodied and tortured and
humiliated.. A rather tainted version of Christ, I think, will emerge from this. Would
you really want to follow this man?
Cheers
Monist
Nietzsche told us God was dead, but he would roll
over in his grave laughing if he knew how many
are still heaving over the corpse, frantically
trying to revive it."
agm
.
|
|
|
| User: "Keenan Clay Wilkie" |
|
| Title: Re: PASSION OF CHRIST TRIUMPH. |
26 Feb 2004 04:46:35 PM |
|
|
Monist <vichumanist@shaw.ca> writes:
Also, people's airy idea of the noble, glowing figure may get tarnished quite
badly. People are not that fond of adoring someone who has been bloodied and tortured and
humiliated.. A rather tainted version of Christ, I think, will emerge from this. Would
you really want to follow this man?
How can you be so heartless and soulless as to even IMAGINE such a thing?
This movie depicts as accurately as possible the SUFFERING and TORMENT
that Jesus Christ endured for US! How can you watch such scenes of agony,
knowing that the man who went through it did so for YOUR sake, and not
feel the slightest bit of sympathy for him? What would possibly turn you
off to such an act of self-sacrifice?!
That's about the fundie mentality. My concern is that the above mentality
will spread amongst those who see The Passion. I'm worried that the movie
will spark renwed religious fervor which, while short lived, will create a
lot of damage (anti-gay sentiments, anti-nonChristian sentiments) while it
lasts.
--
See the documented lies of Pastor Frank: http://tinyurl.com/6009
Christopher Byron (cbyron@nypost.com) thinks that a video game is
"10,000 times worse" than child molestation: http://tinyurl.com/37j8f
d a r k s t a r @ i g l o u . c o m | atheist #29
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "VTM Malkavian" |
|
| Title: Re: PASSION OF CHRIST TRIUMPH. |
24 Feb 2004 10:40:53 AM |
|
|
"FRANKIE LEE" wrote:
Andy Rooney: Mel Gibson a 'nut case'
Satirical monologue suggests 'wacko' filmmaker motivated by greed
Frankie's clear analysis:
Christians believe the bible.That is known by all.
*BUZZZZZ* Sorry. That answer is incorrect. Not all Christians believe the Bible
to be infallible, or even a relatively accurate portrayal of real events.
Mel's film,true to its
historical accounts of Christ,obviously were very much welcome and accepted
by all CHRISTIAN.
True to its BIBLICAL accounts. There are no historical accounts of Jesus'
existance. There are, however, more than a half-dozen other godmen who existed
millenia before Jesus who's stories are remarkably similar to his.
But even though the same story was told thousands of years before Jesus time,
fundamentalists will insist that his story is true while all others are false.
The passion of Christ's film,and the famous Last Supper
Protrait,were appreciated again by Christians.
Who then would be so sarcastics,nasty and opposed the Mel's film,portraying
Jesus hours of crucifixion,and His love for humanity,by sacrificing Himself
so that all men need not go to Hell but is given an opportunity to be saved.
For God so loved the World,including you,that you should not perish but
received Eternal life through His Son Jesus.
Such goodness of God and Charity of God,and Mel's played a role in getting
this message across,who would want to oppose and be negative about it?
It is Satan,and the those who hate Jesus;and those who are real nuts and
clowns.
Andy Rooney goes down as one of the nut.
The film did not have any Anti-semitic passions,and yet the slander goes so
deep that it is controversial,and said it had.
Moreover,the Evangelicals community,an ardent supporter of the Jews and
Isreal's sovereignty,gave thumbs up for the film,and yet the basless
suggestions continue,even through the BBC.Christians passions in reaching
out to all for the sake of their eternity destiny,is no secret at all.
For the love of your imaginary God, please tell me English isn't your first
language.
Is Mel's motivated by greed to produce the film?What if it is true?Bear in
mind that Hollywood pundits declared that the film would be a flop,and
support was not forthcoming from them to Mel's.Even if it is a commercial
undertakings,what's wrong to go for monetary profit?Does man work for
nothing?With US 25 millions dollars out of his own pocket,the risk he
took,who on earth will ever begrudge Mel for taking or raking profits,if it
is the case?
Wait! Wait! Wait! Okay, so, Andy Rooney's a nut for saying Mel Gibson is
concerned about money, but it's okay for Mel to be concerned about money?
?
?
?
The nuts present their worst incoherent case against Mel Gibson,was the
clearest evident of their immorality,slander and bigotry.These nuts just lov
e to parade before the world that as Intellectual nutty Professors.
I'm just glad the word "incoherent" was in this paragraph somewhere, almost
like a big red stamp.
These
fellows shame themselves with their comments and illogical criticisms,and
will go down in history as too shameful and too immoral people.Would decent
people,and people who were awoken to senses buy their slanders?However,these
shameful nuts,inadvertently stir interests for the film,and incite market
for it,and it work for the good of the Film's message,the passion of Christ.
Nasty fat hobbit! Why you hurt poor Smeagol?
Christians believe in God,and of Christ the Messiah.It would be truly
strange if God do not talk to them,nor guide them to do things for Him.If
God is not in talking terms with His children,and His children is not
communicating with Him,then what religious nuts is in all these,who believe
in nothing,and out of sheer hypocrisy?It is natural for those who believe in
God,hears from God.
Like people who believe in Buddhist,Islam,and Cults,they too hear from their
gods,is it not?Do you mean that people who believe in their Faiths have no
real beliefs,but just toying around?
*blink* *blink* Wait. So. You're comparing God speaking to Christians to other
gods speaking to members of other religions. . .which according to Christians
is impossible?
Since Andy,jokingly stated that his gods spoke to him,in clear terms,he is
joking,and doesn't believe in God.
Not true. I don't know Andy Rooney's religious beliefs, but it's possible to be
a Christian (or member of any other religious group) and not believe your deity
speaks to you.
In fact, none of the churches I ever attended promoted the idea that God speaks
directly to people. They would all mock a religious public figure that claimed
to have a direct landline to the almighty.
And if so,why bother to challenge others
with illogical reasonings,when he was once famous for being a reasonable and
logical person?
If, at any point in your rambling, you were trying to show that Andy Rooney was
being illogical or bias, you failed pathetically.
Inspired by jealousies,Andy states that Mel's is motivated by greed.The
success of Mel,and even Bush's Presidencies also drive nuts to become
incoherent and jealouse of them.The demons of jealousies eating their hearts
slowly by slowly,and now it was manisfested.
There's that big "INCOHERENT" stamp again.
When Pope gave thumbs up for the films having preview it,suddenly a carnal
ggroup of nutty clergy men from Vatican also met and discuss whether to
approve the films.After considerations and insanity prevail,for they do not
seem to believe the Bible,yet preach it,declared that Pope was
"neutral".These Catholic had to tell lies[for all liars shall be thrown to
the Lake of Fires...words from Lord Jesus..] so that the world could see
their pattern of Pharisees and Sadducees's behaviour very very clearly.The
hypocrites in Christ's earthly days was rebuke throughly,and today that
similar pattern are emerge exactly.Well,it is the same demonic spirits.
*Head swells up* *Explodes*
Atheist #2375, and God am I proud!
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "chibiabos" |
|
| Title: Re: PASSION OF CHRIST TRIUMPH. |
25 Feb 2004 05:31:08 PM |
|
|
In article <c1f3l2$9cf$1@mawar.singnet.com.sg>, FRANKIE LEE
<s9641315@singnet.com.sg> wrote:
Who then would be so sarcastics,nasty and opposed the Mel's film,portraying
Jesus hours of crucifixion,and His love for humanity,by sacrificing Himself
so that all men need not go to Hell but is given an opportunity to be saved.
It's indicative of the Christian faith to call the torture and murder
of a man, whether it actually happened or not, a "passion."
-chib
--
Member of SMASH
Sarcastic Middle-aged Atheists with a Sense of Humor
(email: change out to in)
.
|
|
|
| User: "Arthur Brain" |
|
| Title: Re: PASSION OF CHRIST TRIUMPH. |
26 Feb 2004 03:01:05 AM |
|
|
chibiabos <chib@outreach.com> wrote in message news:<250220041531084356%chib@outreach.com>...
In article <c1f3l2$9cf$1@mawar.singnet.com.sg>, FRANKIE LEE
<s9641315@singnet.com.sg> wrote:
Who then would be so sarcastics,nasty and opposed the Mel's film,portraying
Jesus hours of crucifixion,and His love for humanity,by sacrificing Himself
so that all men need not go to Hell but is given an opportunity to be saved.
It's indicative of the Christian faith to call the torture and murder
of a man, whether it actually happened or not, a "passion."
-chib
It is indicative of the godless that they should take the word Passion
and apply it to their own selfish carnal pleasures........
.
|
|
|
| User: "jwk" |
|
| Title: Re: PASSION OF CHRIST TRIUMPH. |
26 Feb 2004 01:14:52 PM |
|
|
(Arthur Brain) wrote in message news:<f3125902.0402260005.13e281e@posting.google.com>...
chibiabos <chib@outreach.com> wrote in message news:<250220041531084356%chib@outreach.com>...
In article <c1f3l2$9cf$1@mawar.singnet.com.sg>, FRANKIE LEE
<s9641315@singnet.com.sg> wrote:
Who then would be so sarcastics,nasty and opposed the Mel's film,portraying
Jesus hours of crucifixion,and His love for humanity,by sacrificing Himself
so that all men need not go to Hell but is given an opportunity to be saved.
It's indicative of the Christian faith to call the torture and murder
of a man, whether it actually happened or not, a "passion."
-chib
It is indicative of the godless that they should take the word Passion
and apply it to their own selfish carnal pleasures........
Just like a christer to assume that if passion isn't about bloody
torture it is about sex. Ever hear of someone having a passion for
their work? Or for art? You brain-dead xians only seem to think of
torture and sex.
jwk
BAAWA
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Monist" |
|
| Title: Re: PASSION OF CHRIST TRIUMPH. |
26 Feb 2004 08:31:21 AM |
|
|
On 26 Feb 2004 01:01:05 -0800, (Arthur Brain) wrote:
chibiabos <chib@outreach.com> wrote in message news:<250220041531084356%chib@outreach.com>...
In article <c1f3l2$9cf$1@mawar.singnet.com.sg>, FRANKIE LEE
<s9641315@singnet.com.sg> wrote:
Who then would be so sarcastics,nasty and opposed the Mel's film,portraying
Jesus hours of crucifixion,and His love for humanity,by sacrificing Himself
so that all men need not go to Hell but is given an opportunity to be saved.
It's indicative of the Christian faith to call the torture and murder
of a man, whether it actually happened or not, a "passion."
-chib
It is indicative of the godless that they should take the word Passion
and apply it to their own selfish carnal pleasures........
Well, Gibson's film is well designed to arouse passion. Consider all the sadists
and masochists who will fill the theaters. There has been plenty of advance billing of the
gore being promised. so there will be more hard ons in the theaters than crucifixes I'll
bet. Hope they all have air conditioning.
But, when you get down to it, what is religion but perverted sex? All religions
teach inhibiting the sex drive so that they can sublimate its energy for their purpose--
otherwise, wherefore come the 'passion?"
Cheers
Monist
Nietzsche told us God was dead, but he would roll
over in his grave laughing if he knew how many
are still heaving over the corpse, frantically
trying to revive it."
agm
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Non-republicrat Voter" |
|
| Title: Re: PASSION OF CHRIST TRIUMPH. |
26 Feb 2004 03:23:55 AM |
|
|
On 26 Feb 2004, Arthur Brain wrote:
chibiabos <chib@outreach.com> wrote in message
news:<250220041531084356%chib@outreach.com>...
In article <c1f3l2$9cf$1@mawar.singnet.com.sg>, FRANKIE LEE
<s9641315@singnet.com.sg> wrote:
Who then would be so sarcastics,nasty and opposed the Mel's
film,portraying Jesus hours of crucifixion,and His love for
humanity,by sacrificing Himself so that all men need not go to Hell
but is given an opportunity to be saved.
It's indicative of the Christian faith to call the torture and murder
of a man, whether it actually happened or not, a "passion."
-chib
It is indicative of the godless that they should take the word Passion
and apply it to their own selfish carnal pleasures........
Oh, come on.
Like you're not sitting in the theater getting your rox off
when you watch the gore film "The Passion of the Brian".
.
|
|
|
| User: "Elroy Willis" |
|
| Title: Re: PASSION OF CHRIST TRIUMPH. |
26 Feb 2004 06:11:27 AM |
|
|
Non-republicrat Voter wrote in alt.atheism
On 26 Feb 2004, Arthur Brain wrote:
chibiabos <chib@outreach.com> wrote in message
<s9641315@singnet.com.sg> wrote:
Who then would be so sarcastics,nasty and opposed the Mel's
film,portraying Jesus hours of crucifixion,and His love for
humanity,by sacrificing Himself so that all men need not go to Hell
but is given an opportunity to be saved.
It's indicative of the Christian faith to call the torture and murder
of a man, whether it actually happened or not, a "passion."
It is indicative of the godless that they should take the word Passion
and apply it to their own selfish carnal pleasures........
Oh, come on.
Like you're not sitting in the theater getting your rox off
when you watch the gore film "The Passion of the Brian".
It reminds me of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
Maybe that's what it was intended to do?
--
Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://web2.airmail.net/~elo/news
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "W.Syme" |
|
| Title: Re: PASSION OF CHRIST TRIUMPH. |
26 Feb 2004 03:16:44 AM |
|
|
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 09:23:55 -0000, "Non-republicrat Voter"
<byebye@demopublicans.com> wrote:
It is indicative of the godless that they should take the word Passion
and apply it to their own selfish carnal pleasures........
Oh, come on.
Like you're not sitting in the theater getting your rox off
when you watch the gore film "The Passion of the Brian".
If you are referring to "the life of Brian", there is very little
violence in that movie indeed, and on top of that, it is a comedy.
Slightly different from half an hour of ultra realistic torture, don't
you think?
--
Stil waiting for a xtian to prove to me that goblins don't exist. You can't do it, can you?
.
|
|
|
| User: "SMChristenson" |
|
| Title: Re: PASSION OF CHRIST TRIUMPH. |
26 Feb 2004 05:43:11 AM |
|
|
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 09:16:44 +0000, W.Syme wrote:
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 09:23:55 -0000, "Non-republicrat Voter"
<byebye@demopublicans.com> wrote:
It is indicative of the godless that they should take the word Passion
and apply it to their own selfish carnal pleasures........
Oh, come on.
Like you're not sitting in the theater getting your rox off
when you watch the gore film "The Passion of the Brian".
If you are referring to "the life of Brian", there is very little
violence in that movie indeed, and on top of that, it is a comedy.
Slightly different from half an hour of ultra realistic torture, don't
you think?
He has to be a pulling your leg. Blood in Brian? Colossium scene? Must
have been so bad I repressed it. (Several times)
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
|
| Title: Re: PASSION OF CHRIST TRIUMPH. |
24 Feb 2004 07:28:07 PM |
|
|
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 17:16:12 +0800 in episode
<c1f3l2$9cf$1@mawar.singnet.com.sg> we saw our hero "FRANKIE LEE"
<s9641315@singnet.com.sg>:
That is known by all.Mel's film,true to its
historical accounts of Christ,
Except for the parts Mel got from the 19th century mystic.
Oh and Mel says you're going to hell.
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
"There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels."
.
|
|
|
| User: "Jim Warren" |
|
| Title: Re: PASSION OF CHRIST TRIUMPH. |
24 Feb 2004 07:58:07 PM |
|
|
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 19:28:07 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<y@hoo.com-amikchi> wrote:
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 17:16:12 +0800 in episode
<c1f3l2$9cf$1@mawar.singnet.com.sg> we saw our hero "FRANKIE LEE"
<s9641315@singnet.com.sg>:
That is known by all.Mel's film,true to its
historical accounts of Christ,
Except for the parts Mel got from the 19th century mystic.
Oh and Mel says you're going to hell.
Like I keep telling my brother that is where all of the interesting
people go. When he finds that he is stuck in heaven with all of the
assholes he will be sorry.
Yes I know that heaven and hell are mythical. But if you have a
brother or probably a sister you know that they are fun to mess with.
Supposedly Passion originally meant Pain. Don't understand that one.
-- Remove word virus from return address
Need new signature old one not good.
.
|
|
|
| User: "Carol Lee Smith" |
|
| Title: Re: PASSION OF CHRIST TRIUMPH. |
24 Feb 2004 08:28:46 PM |
|
|
There has been much press associated with this movie, and many points of
view have been proferred with the exception of the view and evidence that
"the Christ (Jesus)" never existed.
Why doesn't public radio or Larry King or Bill O'Reilly have Earl Doherty
on to talk about this subject?
Inquiring minds want to know.
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking,
which leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy."
-- Robert Anton Wilson
.
|
|
|
| User: "Albertadude" |
|
| Title: Re: PASSION OF CHRIST TRIUMPH. |
25 Feb 2004 03:52:21 AM |
|
|
"Carol Lee Smith" <human@csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message
news:Pine.OSF.3.96.1040224202716.31531F-100000@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu...
There has been much press associated with this movie, and many points of
view have been proferred with the exception of the view and evidence that
"the Christ (Jesus)" never existed.
Why doesn't public radio or Larry King or Bill O'Reilly have Earl Doherty
on to talk about this subject?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Because Carol, no decent Scholar would ever spout such idiocy ...pure and
simple...
I was taught in Humanities while taking Roman Society where we touched on
Tacitus
and Seutonius by a Secular Libertarian who dismissed anyone that thought
that Christ
did not exist as a complete fool.......and of course there are thousands of
other profs.....
secular or thiest who would agree.......but aside from that, with the
manuscripts we have
from the ancient world it would be indeed be idiotic to ever suggest
otherwise.....aside
from the Talmud, Josephus,Thallus as quoted by Africanus, Toledoth,
Correspondence
between Pliny and Trajan, Tacitus, Suetonius, 4 Gospel Accounts, and other
anecdotes
and archeology clues, the evidence is overwhelming......
This incredibly dumb debate reminds me of the hilarious scene in Life of
Brian where
the Peoples Judean Front are asking what did the Romans ever do for us?? And
then
the group proceeds to answer them with nearly everything.....
On the same footing, aside from all the ancient writings and archeological
evidence, what
proof of there is of Jesus Christ existing?
If you deny the Christ of History, you had better be prepared to deny the
crossing of the Rubicon,
The Great Battles of Alexander, the slaying of Caesar and so
forth.......again, no Classical
Scholar would take you or this trite arguement seriously.....of course, this
Mr. Doherty along with
GA Wells fall into the absurd category......much like people who to this
deny Man landed on the
Moon.......simply silly stuff not too be taken seriously!!
Thanks
.
|
|
|
| User: "jwk" |
|
| Title: Re: PASSION OF CHRIST TRIUMPH. |
26 Feb 2004 01:12:28 PM |
|
|
"Albertadude" <devonhill@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:<pf__b.612726$X%5.355003@pd7tw2no>...
"Carol Lee Smith" <human@csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message
news:Pine.OSF.3.96.1040224202716.31531F-100000@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu...
There has been much press associated with this movie, and many points of
view have been proferred with the exception of the view and evidence that
"the Christ (Jesus)" never existed.
Why doesn't public radio or Larry King or Bill O'Reilly have Earl Doherty
on to talk about this subject?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Because Carol, no decent Scholar would ever spout such idiocy ...pure and
simple...
I was taught in Humanities while taking Roman Society where we touched on
Tacitus
and Seutonius by a Secular Libertarian who dismissed anyone that thought
that Christ
did not exist as a complete fool.......and of course there are thousands of
other profs.....
secular or thiest who would agree.......but aside from that, with the
manuscripts we have
from the ancient world it would be indeed be idiotic to ever suggest
otherwise.....aside
from the Talmud, Josephus,Thallus as quoted by Africanus, Toledoth,
Correspondence
between Pliny and Trajan, Tacitus, Suetonius, 4 Gospel Accounts, and other
anecdotes
and archeology clues, the evidence is overwhelming......
This incredibly dumb debate reminds me of the hilarious scene in Life of
Brian where
the Peoples Judean Front are asking what did the Romans ever do for us?? And
then
the group proceeds to answer them with nearly everything.....
On the same footing, aside from all the ancient writings and archeological
evidence, what
proof of there is of Jesus Christ existing?
There is *no archeological evidence that your Christ ever existed.
What archelogical research has done is totally refute large events
from the bible like the exodus. Point to one, credible archelogical
find that shows that Jesus existed. Aside from your bible and one
forged document there isn't even anything writen about him.
Proclaiming otherwise doesn't make it so.
jwk
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Jacques Guy" |
|
| Title: Re: PASSION OF CHRIST TRIUMPH. |
26 Feb 2004 01:29:27 AM |
|
|
Albertadude wrote:
If you deny the Christ of History, you had better be prepared to deny the
crossing of the Rubicon,
The Great Battles of Alexander, the slaying of Caesar and so
forth......
Many years ago, when I was young, I read an article (in a Froggish
monthly called "Tout Savoir") proving, tongue in cheek, that
Napoleon never existed, but was a personification of a Sun God.
He had seven sisters and brothers: the seven planets.
He was born in the east (Corsica), died in the west (St Helena
island). Like the sun rises in the east and sets in the west.
His greatest victory was at Austerlitz, where he made a speech
referring to "The _Sun_ of Austerlitz". His demise came in the
depths of the Russian winter. All _obvious_ allusion to the Sun.
And so on, and so on. There was much, much more which I cannot
remember. Even I was shaken. A Sun God, clearly, yes?
I wonder what Gough Whitlam will be in 2300... And Malcolm
Fraser. And Bob Hawke (a bird god?)
.
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
|
| Title: Re: PASSION OF CHRIST TRIUMPH. |
24 Feb 2004 08:36:44 PM |
|
|
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 20:28:46 -0600 in episode
<Pine.OSF.3.96.1040224202716.31531F-100000@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu> we saw our
hero Carol Lee Smith <human@csd.uwm.edu>:
There has been much press associated with this movie, and many points of
view have been proferred with the exception of the view and evidence that
"the Christ (Jesus)" never existed.
Why doesn't public radio or Larry King or Bill O'Reilly have Earl Doherty
on to talk about this subject?
Inquiring minds want to know.
But, see, that's the problem. There are so few inquiring minds...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
"There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels."
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
|
| Title: Re: => As God Told Me ... Mel, you'll burn in Hell ... <= |
24 Feb 2004 07:27:12 PM |
|
|
On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 23:47:14 -0700 in episode
<_pC_b.138$%e4.70362@news.uswest.net> we saw our hero "=> Vox Populi ©"
<vox@popu.li>:
My own question to Pat Robertson is this: The election looks as though it could
be close, certainly not a blowout. If George W. Bush loses the election to a
Democrat, will you become an atheist?
And it would be even funnier if it *isn't a close election.
Bush Sr. in '88 had quite the electoral landslide with only an 8% lead in
popular votes. Kerry has, in some polls, led Bush Jr. by 12%.
Wouldn't it be funny if Bush was just *stomped at the polls?
Not that Pat would mind. He's had tons of *other things "god" told him
fail and just kept going...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
"There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels."
.
|
|
|
|
|
Related Articles |
|
|
