Religions > Atheism > ***** Cheney: Draft Possible (Let's Send ***** Earl Weber, AWOL amd the Rest of The NeoCons First)
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"Yang, AthD h.c" |
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11 Oct 2004 02:49:10 PM |
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***** Cheney: Draft Possible (Let's Send ***** Earl Weber, AWOL amd the Rest of The NeoCons First) |
"Now, we keep the [draft] law on the books. IT'S ALWAYS CONCEIVEBALE,
I suppose, at some point down the road we'd have such a national
crisis or emergency, but it would have to be on the scale of World War
II before I would think that anybody would seriously contemplate the
possibility of going back again to the draft."
-Duck Cheney
http://www.georgewbush.com/News/Read.aspx?ID=3588
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1074 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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| Title: Re: ***** Cheney: Draft Possible (Let's Send ***** Earl Weber, AWOL amd the Rest of The NeoCons First) |
11 Oct 2004 06:12:51 PM |
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"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:rjnlm0tpe9e6uaohj0rj6e5oj2ud170ems@4ax.com...
"Now, we keep the [draft] law on the books. IT'S ALWAYS CONCEIVEBALE,
I suppose, at some point down the road we'd have such a national
crisis or emergency, but it would have to be on the scale of World War
II before I would think that anybody would seriously contemplate the
possibility of going back again to the draft."
-Duck Cheney
http://www.georgewbush.com/News/Read.aspx?ID=3588
I find this obvious attempt to charge Bush/Cheney with trying to draft
people to be so incredibly stupid....considering that the last draft measure
up for vote was written by a DEMOCRAT.
Can't you find enough real issues to oppose Bush/Kerry on,you have to
actually make some up?
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| User: "Lawrence Seib" |
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| Title: Re: ***** Cheney: Draft Possible (Let's Send ***** Earl Weber, AWOL amd the Rest of The NeoCons First) |
12 Oct 2004 09:44:32 AM |
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"DianaC" <dianaiad@verizon.net> wrote in message news:<TrEad.3531$j15.2498@trnddc07>...
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:rjnlm0tpe9e6uaohj0rj6e5oj2ud170ems@4ax.com...
"Now, we keep the [draft] law on the books. IT'S ALWAYS CONCEIVEBALE,
I suppose, at some point down the road we'd have such a national
crisis or emergency, but it would have to be on the scale of World War
II before I would think that anybody would seriously contemplate the
possibility of going back again to the draft."
-Duck Cheney
http://www.georgewbush.com/News/Read.aspx?ID=3588
I find this obvious attempt to charge Bush/Cheney with trying to draft
people to be so incredibly stupid....considering that the last draft measure
up for vote was written by a DEMOCRAT.
From http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030110-014110-7787r
Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y., a Korean War veteran and
a strong critic of going to war with Iraq, introduced
a bill to initiate a draft because he believes the
burden of military service is borne disproportionately
by minorities. Rangel also believes if there were a
universal draft, Congress and the public would have
less of an appetite for war as it would mean endangering
their own children's lives.
Leonard Pitts Jr. - Miami Herald
Saturday, October 9, 2004
BTW, Charles Rangel voted against his own bill.
Can't you find enough real issues to oppose Bush/Kerry on,you have to
actually make some up?
He did not make it up see:
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/6/24/104815.shtml
Savvy draft-watchers, including author, radio personality
and attorney Col. Ron Ray, USMCR (Ret.), dispute the
"is not getting ready" phrase, suggesting that there
is, indeed, evidence indicating a new, heightened
urgency within the agency, which these days is
independent and no longer falls under the aegis of the
Department of Defense.
Dave Eberhart, NewsMax.com
Friday, June 25, 2004
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| User: "Rev. 11D Ricardo MadGello" |
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| Title: Re: ***** Cheney: Draft Possible (Let's Send ***** Earl Weber, AWOL amd the Rest of The NeoCons First) |
13 Oct 2004 01:52:11 AM |
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http://www.motherearth.org/bushwanted/laws.php
"Lawrence Seib" <lseib@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> wrote in message
news:75ab6396.0410120644.16f55339@posting.google.com...
"DianaC" <dianaiad@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:<TrEad.3531$j15.2498@trnddc07>...
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:rjnlm0tpe9e6uaohj0rj6e5oj2ud170ems@4ax.com...
"Now, we keep the [draft] law on the books. IT'S ALWAYS CONCEIVEBALE,
I suppose, at some point down the road we'd have such a national
crisis or emergency, but it would have to be on the scale of World War
II before I would think that anybody would seriously contemplate the
possibility of going back again to the draft."
-Duck Cheney
http://www.georgewbush.com/News/Read.aspx?ID=3588
I find this obvious attempt to charge Bush/Cheney with trying to draft
people to be so incredibly stupid....considering that the last draft
measure
up for vote was written by a DEMOCRAT.
From http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030110-014110-7787r
Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y., a Korean War veteran and
a strong critic of going to war with Iraq, introduced
a bill to initiate a draft because he believes the
burden of military service is borne disproportionately
by minorities. Rangel also believes if there were a
universal draft, Congress and the public would have
less of an appetite for war as it would mean endangering
their own children's lives.
Leonard Pitts Jr. - Miami Herald
Saturday, October 9, 2004
BTW, Charles Rangel voted against his own bill.
Can't you find enough real issues to oppose Bush/Kerry on,you have to
actually make some up?
He did not make it up see:
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/6/24/104815.shtml
Savvy draft-watchers, including author, radio personality
and attorney Col. Ron Ray, USMCR (Ret.), dispute the
"is not getting ready" phrase, suggesting that there
is, indeed, evidence indicating a new, heightened
urgency within the agency, which these days is
independent and no longer falls under the aegis of the
Department of Defense.
Dave Eberhart, NewsMax.com
Friday, June 25, 2004
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| User: "Vash The Stampede" |
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| Title: Re: ***** Cheney: Draft Possible (Let's Send ***** Earl Weber, AWOL amd the Rest of The NeoCons First) |
15 Oct 2004 08:00:15 PM |
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On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 23:12:51 +0000, DianaC wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:rjnlm0tpe9e6uaohj0rj6e5oj2ud170ems@4ax.com...
"Now, we keep the [draft] law on the books. IT'S ALWAYS CONCEIVEBALE,
I suppose, at some point down the road we'd have such a national
crisis or emergency, but it would have to be on the scale of World War
II before I would think that anybody would seriously contemplate the
possibility of going back again to the draft."
-Duck Cheney
http://www.georgewbush.com/News/Read.aspx?ID=3588
I find this obvious attempt to charge Bush/Cheney with trying to draft
people to be so incredibly stupid....considering that the last draft measure
up for vote was written by a DEMOCRAT.
Can't you find enough real issues to oppose Bush/Kerry on,you have to
actually make some up?
Boy, you *ARE* asking alot, aren't you?
--
Besides, what would they say if I told them
I was hanging out with Vash The Stampede?
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| User: "Doorman" |
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16 Oct 2004 06:17:22 PM |
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Hmm... Does that mean I should post another reminder that this thread is for
new visitors to the newsgroup, and mostly to show what Michael Moore haters
are like:
Vash The Stampede <trigun@2am.cn> wrote:
<old stuff snip>
Boy, you *ARE* asking alot, aren't you?
--
We don't know if 9/11 could have been stopped--but we do know Dubya
failed to stop it. That's the FACT.
You want steady leadership for disastrous change?
Attack, lie, spin. Dubya's REAL trifecta.
Trolls fed to "The vile spewers of mindless blather thread".
('Doorman' is a role-based pen name of Shannon Jacobs, copyright
2004.)
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c" |
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| Title: Re: ***** Cheney: Draft Possible (Let's Send ***** Earl Weber, AWOL amd the Rest of The NeoCons First) |
11 Oct 2004 10:24:47 PM |
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On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 23:12:51 GMT, "DianaC" <dianaiad@verizon.net>
wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:rjnlm0tpe9e6uaohj0rj6e5oj2ud170ems@4ax.com...
"Now, we keep the [draft] law on the books. IT'S ALWAYS CONCEIVEBALE,
I suppose, at some point down the road we'd have such a national
crisis or emergency, but it would have to be on the scale of World War
II before I would think that anybody would seriously contemplate the
possibility of going back again to the draft."
-Duck Cheney
http://www.georgewbush.com/News/Read.aspx?ID=3588
I find this obvious attempt to charge Bush/Cheney with trying to draft
people to be so incredibly stupid....considering that the last draft measure
up for vote was written by a DEMOCRAT.
And that means AWOL won't institute the draft because he's not a
Democrat?
Let me guess, you think evrything is going just fine in Iraq, and all
the military analysts saying that the US armed forces are stretched to
the limit should be ignored.
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1074 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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| User: "DianaC" |
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| Title: Re: ***** Cheney: Draft Possible (Let's Send ***** Earl Weber, AWOL amd the Rest of The NeoCons First) |
11 Oct 2004 11:01:53 PM |
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"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:agjmm0107is2if55g46p7cgp0qhp9biu58@4ax.com...
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 23:12:51 GMT, "DianaC" <dianaiad@verizon.net>
wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:rjnlm0tpe9e6uaohj0rj6e5oj2ud170ems@4ax.com...
"Now, we keep the [draft] law on the books. IT'S ALWAYS CONCEIVEBALE,
I suppose, at some point down the road we'd have such a national
crisis or emergency, but it would have to be on the scale of World War
II before I would think that anybody would seriously contemplate the
possibility of going back again to the draft."
-Duck Cheney
http://www.georgewbush.com/News/Read.aspx?ID=3588
I find this obvious attempt to charge Bush/Cheney with trying to draft
people to be so incredibly stupid....considering that the last draft
measure
up for vote was written by a DEMOCRAT.
And that means AWOL won't institute the draft because he's not a
Democrat?
Let me guess, you think evrything is going just fine in Iraq, and all
the military analysts saying that the US armed forces are stretched to
the limit should be ignored.
Let me guess; you can't figure out anything to charge Bush with that is
enough for you; I mean, he doesn't eat babies or anything, so you will make
THIS one up, even though it IS the democrats who are actually calling for a
draft, not the Republicans?
And this doesn't bother you?
Wait. Never mind.
Of course it doesn't.
Y'know, if the truth isn't enough to discredit the opposition, then perhaps
you'd better take a second look?
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| User: "Dont Blame Clayton...He Didnt Vote For The Rat Faced Bastard" |
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| Title: Re: ***** Cheney: Draft Possible (Let's Send ***** Earl Weber, AWOL amd the Rest of The NeoCons First) |
12 Oct 2004 01:45:45 AM |
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"Rev. 11D Ricardo MadGello" <visualize.whirled.peas@sweet.*****.juice> wrote
in message news:rkJad.4483$ua2.1897@trnddc09...
PLOY? PLOY? PLOY!
Gee DUHbya Is Sooooooooooo
FUCKING OUTTA HERE!
Buh Bye Boosh!
Three More Weeks!
That's what we thought in Australia too....Howard was out of there!!!
Instead he was returned with increased majority and control over the senate!
I saw a program about the American voting public last night and it utterly
terrified me. It's like ignorance is a virus that has spread across the US
(and onto Australia). No matter what they were confronted with, the
Americans saw black as white, bad as good, Bush as perfection! Calling
Kerry a spoiled rich kid and a liar, but Bush a down to earth struggler like
them, honest, intelligent and with the right plan for the future. It was
the most astounding thing I have ever seen! All across your country, brains
are just being shut off and player piano punch cards being put in their
place!
If Bush is re-elected it is solid proof that the USA must be wiped off the
face of the planet. A country that stupid with that much power can't be
allowed to exist...especially since they have weapons of mass destruction!!!
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| User: "Rev. 11D Ricardo MadGello" |
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13 Oct 2004 01:52:00 AM |
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"Don't Blame Clayton...He Didn't Vote For The Rat Faced *****"
<cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonyemail.com> wrote in message
news:416b7dc6$0$26323$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
"Rev. 11D Ricardo MadGello" <visualize.whirled.peas@sweet.*****.juice>
wrote
in message news:rkJad.4483$ua2.1897@trnddc09...
PLOY? PLOY? PLOY!
Gee DUHbya Is Sooooooooooo
FUCKING OUTTA HERE!
Buh Bye Boosh!
Three More Weeks!
That's what we thought in Australia too....Howard was out of there!!!
Instead he was returned with increased majority and control over the
senate!
I saw a program about the American voting public last night and it utterly
terrified me. It's like ignorance is a virus that has spread across the
US
(and onto Australia). No matter what they were confronted with, the
Americans saw black as white, bad as good, Bush as perfection! Calling
Kerry a spoiled rich kid and a liar, but Bush a down to earth struggler
like
them, honest, intelligent and with the right plan for the future. It was
the most astounding thing I have ever seen! All across your country,
brains
are just being shut off and player piano punch cards being put in their
place!
If Bush is re-elected it is solid proof that the USA must be wiped off the
face of the planet. A country that stupid with that much power can't be
allowed to exist...especially since they have weapons of mass
destruction!!!
http://www.motherearth.org/bushwanted/laws.php
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c" |
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| Title: Re: ***** Cheney: Draft Possible (Let's Send ***** Earl Weber, AWOL amd the Rest of The NeoCons First) |
11 Oct 2004 11:11:52 PM |
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On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 04:01:53 GMT, "DianaC" <dianaiad@verizon.net>
wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:agjmm0107is2if55g46p7cgp0qhp9biu58@4ax.com...
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 23:12:51 GMT, "DianaC" <dianaiad@verizon.net>
wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:rjnlm0tpe9e6uaohj0rj6e5oj2ud170ems@4ax.com...
"Now, we keep the [draft] law on the books. IT'S ALWAYS CONCEIVEBALE,
I suppose, at some point down the road we'd have such a national
crisis or emergency, but it would have to be on the scale of World War
II before I would think that anybody would seriously contemplate the
possibility of going back again to the draft."
-Duck Cheney
http://www.georgewbush.com/News/Read.aspx?ID=3588
I find this obvious attempt to charge Bush/Cheney with trying to draft
people to be so incredibly stupid....considering that the last draft
measure
up for vote was written by a DEMOCRAT.
And that means AWOL won't institute the draft because he's not a
Democrat?
Let me guess, you think evrything is going just fine in Iraq, and all
the military analysts saying that the US armed forces are stretched to
the limit should be ignored.
Let me guess; you can't figure out anything to charge Bush with that is
enough for you; I mean, he doesn't eat babies or anything, so you will make
THIS one up, even though it IS the democrats who are actually calling for a
draft, not the Republicans?
You mean lefty liberals like Dvid Hackworth, a War Vet?
http://www.sftt.org/cgi-bin/csNews/csNews.cgi?database=Hacks%20Target.db&command=viewone&op=t&id=92&rnd=456.53333228240376
Let's do teh math shall we? 10 of teh 12 divisions are bogged down in
Iraq. tropps are forced to stay in Iraq for longer duration than they
were supposed to, reserves are being called up involuntarily. Let me
guess, you think there is absolutely no shortage of troop in Iraq.
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1074 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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| User: "DianaC" |
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| Title: Re: ***** Cheney: Draft Possible (Let's Send ***** Earl Weber, AWOL amd the Rest of The NeoCons First) |
12 Oct 2004 10:25:29 AM |
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"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:16mmm0l6nqegeq5fvph41pfevp2c55igos@4ax.com...
On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 04:01:53 GMT, "DianaC" <dianaiad@verizon.net>
wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:agjmm0107is2if55g46p7cgp0qhp9biu58@4ax.com...
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 23:12:51 GMT, "DianaC" <dianaiad@verizon.net>
wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:rjnlm0tpe9e6uaohj0rj6e5oj2ud170ems@4ax.com...
"Now, we keep the [draft] law on the books. IT'S ALWAYS CONCEIVEBALE,
I suppose, at some point down the road we'd have such a national
crisis or emergency, but it would have to be on the scale of World War
II before I would think that anybody would seriously contemplate the
possibility of going back again to the draft."
-Duck Cheney
http://www.georgewbush.com/News/Read.aspx?ID=3588
I find this obvious attempt to charge Bush/Cheney with trying to draft
people to be so incredibly stupid....considering that the last draft
measure
up for vote was written by a DEMOCRAT.
And that means AWOL won't institute the draft because he's not a
Democrat?
Let me guess, you think evrything is going just fine in Iraq, and all
the military analysts saying that the US armed forces are stretched to
the limit should be ignored.
Let me guess; you can't figure out anything to charge Bush with that is
enough for you; I mean, he doesn't eat babies or anything, so you will
make
THIS one up, even though it IS the democrats who are actually calling for
a
draft, not the Republicans?
You mean lefty liberals like Dvid Hackworth, a War Vet?
http://www.sftt.org/cgi-bin/csNews/csNews.cgi?database=Hacks%20Target.db&command=viewone&op=t&id=92&rnd=456.53333228240376
Let's do teh math shall we? 10 of teh 12 divisions are bogged down in
Iraq. tropps are forced to stay in Iraq for longer duration than they
were supposed to, reserves are being called up involuntarily. Let me
guess, you think there is absolutely no shortage of troop in Iraq.
So which is it. Should we HAVE a draft or not? You can't do this, y'know,
both call for one, insist that one is required, and then blame the
Republicans for wanting one....when you are the one that does.
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| User: "Enkidu" |
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| Title: Re: ***** Cheney: Draft Possible (Let's Send ***** Earl Weber, AWOL amd the Rest of The NeoCons First) |
12 Oct 2004 04:45:26 PM |
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"DianaC" <dianaiad@verizon.net> wrote in
news:JHSad.5166$gd1.1507@trnddc08:
[snip]
So which is it. Should we HAVE a draft or not? You can't do this,
y'know, both call for one, insist that one is required, and then blame
the Republicans for wanting one....when you are the one that does.
If we weren't bogged down in a needless war, we wouldn't have a military
streched so far that a possible draft would be an issue.
--
Enkidu aa 2165
That wall, embodied in the First Amendment, is perhaps
America's most important contribution to political progress
on this planet.
Lowell Weicker
Republican Senator 1971-1989
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| User: "Fester" |
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| Title: Re: ***** Cheney: Draft Possible (Let's Send ***** Earl Weber, AWOL amd the Rest of The NeoCons First) |
13 Oct 2004 05:24:51 AM |
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"DianaC" <dianaiad@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:JHSad.5166$gd1.1507@trnddc08...
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:16mmm0l6nqegeq5fvph41pfevp2c55igos@4ax.com...
On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 04:01:53 GMT, "DianaC" <dianaiad@verizon.net>
wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:agjmm0107is2if55g46p7cgp0qhp9biu58@4ax.com...
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 23:12:51 GMT, "DianaC" <dianaiad@verizon.net>
wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:rjnlm0tpe9e6uaohj0rj6e5oj2ud170ems@4ax.com...
"Now, we keep the [draft] law on the books. IT'S ALWAYS
CONCEIVEBALE,
I suppose, at some point down the road we'd have such a national
crisis or emergency, but it would have to be on the scale of World
War
II before I would think that anybody would seriously contemplate the
possibility of going back again to the draft."
-Duck Cheney
http://www.georgewbush.com/News/Read.aspx?ID=3588
I find this obvious attempt to charge Bush/Cheney with trying to draft
people to be so incredibly stupid....considering that the last draft
measure
up for vote was written by a DEMOCRAT.
And that means AWOL won't institute the draft because he's not a
Democrat?
Let me guess, you think evrything is going just fine in Iraq, and all
the military analysts saying that the US armed forces are stretched to
the limit should be ignored.
Let me guess; you can't figure out anything to charge Bush with that is
enough for you; I mean, he doesn't eat babies or anything, so you will
make
THIS one up, even though it IS the democrats who are actually calling
for
a
draft, not the Republicans?
You mean lefty liberals like Dvid Hackworth, a War Vet?
http://www.sftt.org/cgi-bin/csNews/csNews.cgi?database=Hacks%20Target.db&command=viewone&op=t&id=92&rnd=456.53333228240376
Let's do teh math shall we? 10 of teh 12 divisions are bogged down in
Iraq. tropps are forced to stay in Iraq for longer duration than they
were supposed to, reserves are being called up involuntarily. Let me
guess, you think there is absolutely no shortage of troop in Iraq.
So which is it. Should we HAVE a draft or not? You can't do this, y'know,
both call for one, insist that one is required, and then blame the
Republicans for wanting one....when you are the one that does.
Even if we need another division or two, we do not need a draft. Recruiters
are meeting or exceeding their goals from volunteers. The only reason we do
not have more soldiers right now is because we are not hiring, not because
there are two few qualified applicants. As you pointed out earlier, it is
the Dems, led by Charlie Rangell who have proposing a draft. His reasoning
comes down to another social engineering experiment because he feels that
too many black kids are in the military.
Last week, I was at a government facility and had the chance to work and
talk with a number of Army soldiers (mostly PFC and SPCs). I can tell you
first hand that they are terrific folks. The typical US soldier is
competent and smart. He joined up to improve himself and embark on a
career. But not just that. There is a streak of idealism in those kids!
The young men I spoke with have a firm desire to be part of and contribute
to something larger than themselves. They have a strong desire to make the
world a better place. America produces lots of these fine kids, and they'll
volunteer if we have a need for more of them.
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13 Oct 2004 12:40:04 PM |
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On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 10:24:51 GMT, "Fester" <not@home.com> wrote:
Even if we need another division or two, we do not need a draft. Recruiters
are meeting or exceeding their goals from volunteers.
But it's not easy.
http://washingtontimes.com/national/20040930-122138-5753r.htm
Army, in tough slog, hits recruiting goal
The Army did suffer setbacks in the government's fiscal 2004. The
National Guard will miss its recruiting goal of 56,000. It had signed
up only 43,827 by Aug. 31. Critics say frequent call-ups and 12-month
deployments are driving prospects away, but the Army cites the fact
that more soldiers are being kept on active duty, which means they are
not available for Guard recruiters.
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Bush Cheney - Putting the CON in Conservative
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| User: "Fester" |
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| Title: Re: ***** Cheney: Draft Possible (Let's Send ***** Earl Weber, AWOL amd the Rest of The NeoCons First) |
13 Oct 2004 05:45:51 PM |
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--
"Your representative owes you, not his industry only, but his judgement; and
he betrays instead of serving you if he sacrifices it to your opinion"
Edmund Burke
<retrogrouch@comcast.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 10:24:51 GMT, "Fester" <not@home.com> wrote:
Even if we need another division or two, we do not need a draft.
Recruiters
are meeting or exceeding their goals from volunteers.
But it's not easy.
http://washingtontimes.com/national/20040930-122138-5753r.htm
Army, in tough slog, hits recruiting goal
The Army did suffer setbacks in the government's fiscal 2004. The
National Guard will miss its recruiting goal of 56,000. It had signed
up only 43,827 by Aug. 31. Critics say frequent call-ups and 12-month
deployments are driving prospects away, but the Army cites the fact
that more soldiers are being kept on active duty, which means they are
not available for Guard recruiters.
I was referring to Active Duty. It's true that the guard has suffered from
extended call ups. If one were to imagnie a hypothetical draft, it would
not be for hte purpose of bringing people into the guard.
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| User: "Vash The Stampede" |
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| Title: Re: ***** Cheney: Draft Possible (Let's Send ***** Earl Weber, AWOL amd the Rest of The NeoCons First) |
15 Oct 2004 08:04:39 PM |
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On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 15:25:29 +0000, DianaC wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:16mmm0l6nqegeq5fvph41pfevp2c55igos@4ax.com...
On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 04:01:53 GMT, "DianaC" <dianaiad@verizon.net>
wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:agjmm0107is2if55g46p7cgp0qhp9biu58@4ax.com...
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 23:12:51 GMT, "DianaC" <dianaiad@verizon.net>
wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:rjnlm0tpe9e6uaohj0rj6e5oj2ud170ems@4ax.com...
"Now, we keep the [draft] law on the books. IT'S ALWAYS CONCEIVEBALE,
I suppose, at some point down the road we'd have such a national
crisis or emergency, but it would have to be on the scale of World War
II before I would think that anybody would seriously contemplate the
possibility of going back again to the draft."
-Duck Cheney
http://www.georgewbush.com/News/Read.aspx?ID=3588
I find this obvious attempt to charge Bush/Cheney with trying to draft
people to be so incredibly stupid....considering that the last draft
measure
up for vote was written by a DEMOCRAT.
And that means AWOL won't institute the draft because he's not a
Democrat?
Let me guess, you think evrything is going just fine in Iraq, and all
the military analysts saying that the US armed forces are stretched to
the limit should be ignored.
Let me guess; you can't figure out anything to charge Bush with that is
enough for you; I mean, he doesn't eat babies or anything, so you will
make
THIS one up, even though it IS the democrats who are actually calling for
a
draft, not the Republicans?
You mean lefty liberals like Dvid Hackworth, a War Vet?
http://www.sftt.org/cgi-bin/csNews/csNews.cgi?database=Hacks%20Target.db&command=viewone&op=t&id=92&rnd=456.53333228240376
Let's do teh math shall we? 10 of teh 12 divisions are bogged down in
Iraq. tropps are forced to stay in Iraq for longer duration than they
were supposed to, reserves are being called up involuntarily. Let me
guess, you think there is absolutely no shortage of troop in Iraq.
So which is it. Should we HAVE a draft or not? You can't do this, y'know,
both call for one, insist that one is required, and then blame the
Republicans for wanting one....when you are the one that does.
Oh, yes they can! Look at their pick for President!
--
Besides, what would they say if I told them
I was hanging out with Vash The Stampede?
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16 Oct 2004 06:13:55 PM |
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If you are a fellow American patriot and lover of the First Amendment, then
by these presents greetings. It is good that you seek rational and
democratic discussion of the great and urgent issues facing our nation.
Unfortunately, I think you've come to the wrong place. See the bottom of
this post for additional evidence--but this entire enormous thread is
dedicated to the display of the freshest original parts of such disruptive
anti-democratic tripe. With the witless assistance of the Bushevik trolls,
it only took a short time to build this "tower of babble".
Especially if you remember the old days of rational discussion in the
newsgroups, this triumph of noise over signal may sadden you. Hyde Park of
the world and cheap advertising are all that remain.
However, there are still alternatives. For example, there are many moderated
forums on the Internet where civil discussions and real conversations can be
found. Even better if you can build bridges to real people in the physical
world. For example, you could treat a rational RINO to a movie--like
Fahrenheit 9/11. Lots of good books still being published, or you could
write a letter to the editor for your local paper--you'll reach more real
people and have more impact than here. Or you could donate to the political
campaigns--I confess I've already made seven donations. Just remember that
big money is harming democracy, that BushCo has more money than anyone, and
that if money alone decides elections then the American republic is already
dead.
Last, but MOST important: VOTE! Your nation needs you NOW!
On the other hand, if you are a Bushevik troll, then in the immortal
floor-of-the-Senate words of the unloved ***** Cheney: "Go ***** yourself."
That mentality goes a long way towards explaining blather like this:
Vash The Stampede <trigun@2am.cn> wrote:
<old stuff snip>
Oh, yes they can! Look at their pick for President!
--
We don't know if 9/11 could have been stopped--but we do know Dubya
failed to stop it. That's the FACT.
You want steady leadership for disastrous change?
Attack, lie, spin. Dubya's REAL trifecta.
Trolls fed to "The vile spewers of mindless blather thread".
('Doorman' is a role-based pen name of Shannon Jacobs, copyright
2004.)
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| User: "Vash The Stampede" |
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16 Oct 2004 10:05:18 PM |
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And for the 252nd time (actually, I am probably under the correct amount
by 300 or so...):
On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 08:13:55 +0900, Doorman wrote:
If you are a fellow American patriot and lover of the First Amendment, then
by these presents greetings. It is good that you seek rational and
democratic discussion of the great and urgent issues facing our nation.
Unfortunately, I think you've come to the wrong place. See the bottom of
this post for additional evidence--but this entire enormous thread is
dedicated to the display of the freshest original parts of such disruptive
anti-democratic tripe. With the witless assistance of the Bushevik trolls,
it only took a short time to build this "tower of babble".
Especially if you remember the old days of rational discussion in the
newsgroups, this triumph of noise over signal may sadden you. Hyde Park of
the world and cheap advertising are all that remain.
However, there are still alternatives. For example, there are many moderated
forums on the Internet where civil discussions and real conversations can be
found. Even better if you can build bridges to real people in the physical
world. For example, you could treat a rational RINO to a movie--like
Fahrenheit 9/11. Lots of good books still being published, or you could
write a letter to the editor for your local paper--you'll reach more real
people and have more impact than here. Or you could donate to the political
campaigns--I confess I've already made seven donations. Just remember that
big money is harming democracy, that BushCo has more money than anyone, and
that if money alone decides elections then the American republic is already
dead.
Last, but MOST important: VOTE! Your nation needs you NOW!
On the other hand, if you are a Bushevik troll, then in the immortal
floor-of-the-Senate words of the unloved ***** Cheney: "Go ***** yourself."
That mentality goes a long way towards explaining blather like this:
Vash The Stampede <trigun@2am.cn> wrote:
<old stuff snip>
Oh, yes they can! Look at their pick for President!
--
Besides, what would they say if I told them
I was hanging out with Vash The Stampede?
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17 Oct 2004 03:03:16 AM |
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[Saving time]
2. Stone-headed fanaticism.
Vash The Stampede <trigun@2am.cn> wrote:
And for the 252nd time (actually, I am probably under the correct
amount by 300 or so...):
<old stuff snip>
--
We don't know if 9/11 could have been stopped--but we do know Dubya
failed to stop it. That's the FACT.
You want steady leadership for disastrous change?
Attack, lie, spin. Dubya's REAL trifecta.
Trolls fed to "The vile spewers of mindless blather thread".
('Doorman' is a role-based pen name of Shannon Jacobs, copyright
2004.)
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c" |
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| Title: Re: ***** Cheney: Draft Possible (Let's Send ***** Earl Weber, AWOL amd the Rest of The NeoCons First) |
12 Oct 2004 10:23:58 PM |
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On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 15:25:29 GMT, "DianaC" <dianaiad@verizon.net>
wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:16mmm0l6nqegeq5fvph41pfevp2c55igos@4ax.com...
On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 04:01:53 GMT, "DianaC" <dianaiad@verizon.net>
wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:agjmm0107is2if55g46p7cgp0qhp9biu58@4ax.com...
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 23:12:51 GMT, "DianaC" <dianaiad@verizon.net>
wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:rjnlm0tpe9e6uaohj0rj6e5oj2ud170ems@4ax.com...
"Now, we keep the [draft] law on the books. IT'S ALWAYS CONCEIVEBALE,
I suppose, at some point down the road we'd have such a national
crisis or emergency, but it would have to be on the scale of World War
II before I would think that anybody would seriously contemplate the
possibility of going back again to the draft."
-Duck Cheney
http://www.georgewbush.com/News/Read.aspx?ID=3588
I find this obvious attempt to charge Bush/Cheney with trying to draft
people to be so incredibly stupid....considering that the last draft
measure
up for vote was written by a DEMOCRAT.
And that means AWOL won't institute the draft because he's not a
Democrat?
Let me guess, you think evrything is going just fine in Iraq, and all
the military analysts saying that the US armed forces are stretched to
the limit should be ignored.
Let me guess; you can't figure out anything to charge Bush with that is
enough for you; I mean, he doesn't eat babies or anything, so you will
make
THIS one up, even though it IS the democrats who are actually calling for
a
draft, not the Republicans?
You mean lefty liberals like Dvid Hackworth, a War Vet?
http://www.sftt.org/cgi-bin/csNews/csNews.cgi?database=Hacks%20Target.db&command=viewone&op=t&id=92&rnd=456.53333228240376
Let's do teh math shall we? 10 of teh 12 divisions are bogged down in
Iraq. tropps are forced to stay in Iraq for longer duration than they
were supposed to, reserves are being called up involuntarily. Let me
guess, you think there is absolutely no shortage of troop in Iraq.
So which is it. Should we HAVE a draft or not? You can't do this, y'know,
both call for one, insist that one is required, and then blame the
Republicans for wanting one....when you are the one that does.
How about sending the NeoCons who thought this whole mess is worth it
in the first place?
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1075 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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| Title: Re: ***** Cheney: Draft Possible (Let's Send ***** Earl Weber, AWOL amd the Rest of The NeoCons First) |
13 Oct 2004 01:35:21 AM |
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"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:at7pm0dhto5uumkoiv4d0vt6i9sq2i85gi@4ax.com...
On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 15:25:29 GMT, "DianaC" <dianaiad@verizon.net>
wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:16mmm0l6nqegeq5fvph41pfevp2c55igos@4ax.com...
On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 04:01:53 GMT, "DianaC" <dianaiad@verizon.net>
wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:agjmm0107is2if55g46p7cgp0qhp9biu58@4ax.com...
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 23:12:51 GMT, "DianaC" <dianaiad@verizon.net>
wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:rjnlm0tpe9e6uaohj0rj6e5oj2ud170ems@4ax.com...
"Now, we keep the [draft] law on the books. IT'S ALWAYS
CONCEIVEBALE,
I suppose, at some point down the road we'd have such a national
crisis or emergency, but it would have to be on the scale of World
War
II before I would think that anybody would seriously contemplate the
possibility of going back again to the draft."
-Duck Cheney
http://www.georgewbush.com/News/Read.aspx?ID=3588
I find this obvious attempt to charge Bush/Cheney with trying to draft
people to be so incredibly stupid....considering that the last draft
measure
up for vote was written by a DEMOCRAT.
And that means AWOL won't institute the draft because he's not a
Democrat?
Let me guess, you think evrything is going just fine in Iraq, and all
the military analysts saying that the US armed forces are stretched to
the limit should be ignored.
Let me guess; you can't figure out anything to charge Bush with that is
enough for you; I mean, he doesn't eat babies or anything, so you will
make
THIS one up, even though it IS the democrats who are actually calling
for
a
draft, not the Republicans?
You mean lefty liberals like Dvid Hackworth, a War Vet?
http://www.sftt.org/cgi-bin/csNews/csNews.cgi?database=Hacks%20Target.db&command=viewone&op=t&id=92&rnd=456.53333228240376
Let's do teh math shall we? 10 of teh 12 divisions are bogged down in
Iraq. tropps are forced to stay in Iraq for longer duration than they
were supposed to, reserves are being called up involuntarily. Let me
guess, you think there is absolutely no shortage of troop in Iraq.
So which is it. Should we HAVE a draft or not? You can't do this, y'know,
both call for one, insist that one is required, and then blame the
Republicans for wanting one....when you are the one that does.
How about sending the NeoCons who thought this whole mess is worth it
in the first place?
Thought so. You can't address the facts, so you go off on a tangent.
Guess that means you lost.
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| User: "Vash The Stampede" |
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15 Oct 2004 08:08:14 PM |
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On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 06:35:21 +0000, DianaC wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:at7pm0dhto5uumkoiv4d0vt6i9sq2i85gi@4ax.com...
On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 15:25:29 GMT, "DianaC" <dianaiad@verizon.net>
wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:16mmm0l6nqegeq5fvph41pfevp2c55igos@4ax.com...
On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 04:01:53 GMT, "DianaC" <dianaiad@verizon.net>
wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:agjmm0107is2if55g46p7cgp0qhp9biu58@4ax.com...
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 23:12:51 GMT, "DianaC" <dianaiad@verizon.net>
wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:rjnlm0tpe9e6uaohj0rj6e5oj2ud170ems@4ax.com...
"Now, we keep the [draft] law on the books. IT'S ALWAYS
CONCEIVEBALE,
I suppose, at some point down the road we'd have such a national
crisis or emergency, but it would have to be on the scale of World
War
II before I would think that anybody would seriously contemplate the
possibility of going back again to the draft."
-Duck Cheney
http://www.georgewbush.com/News/Read.aspx?ID=3588
I find this obvious attempt to charge Bush/Cheney with trying to draft
people to be so incredibly stupid....considering that the last draft
measure
up for vote was written by a DEMOCRAT.
And that means AWOL won't institute the draft because he's not a
Democrat?
Let me guess, you think evrything is going just fine in Iraq, and all
the military analysts saying that the US armed forces are stretched to
the limit should be ignored.
Let me guess; you can't figure out anything to charge Bush with that is
enough for you; I mean, he doesn't eat babies or anything, so you will
make
THIS one up, even though it IS the democrats who are actually calling
for
a
draft, not the Republicans?
You mean lefty liberals like Dvid Hackworth, a War Vet?
http://www.sftt.org/cgi-bin/csNews/csNews.cgi?database=Hacks%20Target.db&command=viewone&op=t&id=92&rnd=456.53333228240376
Let's do teh math shall we? 10 of teh 12 divisions are bogged down in
Iraq. tropps are forced to stay in Iraq for longer duration than they
were supposed to, reserves are being called up involuntarily. Let me
guess, you think there is absolutely no shortage of troop in Iraq.
So which is it. Should we HAVE a draft or not? You can't do this, y'know,
both call for one, insist that one is required, and then blame the
Republicans for wanting one....when you are the one that does.
How about sending the NeoCons who thought this whole mess is worth it
in the first place?
Thought so. You can't address the facts, so you go off on a tangent.
Guess that means you lost.
Yeah. Hey, Yang, I *KNOW* you can do better than this.
Yang really is a bright student, but he's young yet. I think we'll find
Churchill was right: "If a man is not a Liberal by the time he is 20, he
has no heart. If he is not a COnservative by the time he is 40, he has no
brain"
--
Besides, what would they say if I told them
I was hanging out with Vash The Stampede?
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16 Oct 2004 06:13:03 PM |
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Let's see what our angry little troll has for us today... Not much. Just
mangling the Churchill quote. Is the troll too stupid to know the correct
quote, or just too lazy and inconsiderate to check? Certainly no deep
concern for the truth, but Rusheviks are like that.
Vash The Stampede <trigun@2am.cn> wrote:
<old stuff snip
Yeah. Hey, Yang, I *KNOW* you can do better than this.
Yang really is a bright student, but he's young yet. I think we'll
find Churchill was right: "If a man is not a Liberal by the time he
is 20, he has no heart. If he is not a COnservative by the time he
is 40, he has no brain"
[Actually this source denies Churchill said it
http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=112
but here's a form I think more likely
"Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has no heart; and any man
who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains." -- Winston
Churchill
(assuming that he did say it and admitting that the style is rather clumsy
compared to many of his wittier sayings.).]
--
We don't know if 9/11 could have been stopped--but we do know Dubya
failed to stop it. That's the FACT.
You want steady leadership for disastrous change?
Attack, lie, spin. Dubya's REAL trifecta.
Trolls fed to "The vile spewers of mindless blather thread".
('Doorman' is a role-based pen name of Shannon Jacobs, copyright
2004.)
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c" |
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13 Oct 2004 01:50:53 AM |
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On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 06:35:21 GMT, "DianaC" <dianaiad@verizon.net>
wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:at7pm0dhto5uumkoiv4d0vt6i9sq2i85gi@4ax.com...
On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 15:25:29 GMT, "DianaC" <dianaiad@verizon.net>
wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:16mmm0l6nqegeq5fvph41pfevp2c55igos@4ax.com...
On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 04:01:53 GMT, "DianaC" <dianaiad@verizon.net>
wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:agjmm0107is2if55g46p7cgp0qhp9biu58@4ax.com...
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 23:12:51 GMT, "DianaC" <dianaiad@verizon.net>
wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:rjnlm0tpe9e6uaohj0rj6e5oj2ud170ems@4ax.com...
"Now, we keep the [draft] law on the books. IT'S ALWAYS
CONCEIVEBALE,
I suppose, at some point down the road we'd have such a national
crisis or emergency, but it would have to be on the scale of World
War
II before I would think that anybody would seriously contemplate the
possibility of going back again to the draft."
-Duck Cheney
http://www.georgewbush.com/News/Read.aspx?ID=3588
I find this obvious attempt to charge Bush/Cheney with trying to draft
people to be so incredibly stupid....considering that the last draft
measure
up for vote was written by a DEMOCRAT.
And that means AWOL won't institute the draft because he's not a
Democrat?
Let me guess, you think evrything is going just fine in Iraq, and all
the military analysts saying that the US armed forces are stretched to
the limit should be ignored.
Let me guess; you can't figure out anything to charge Bush with that is
enough for you; I mean, he doesn't eat babies or anything, so you will
make
THIS one up, even though it IS the democrats who are actually calling
for
a
draft, not the Republicans?
You mean lefty liberals like Dvid Hackworth, a War Vet?
http://www.sftt.org/cgi-bin/csNews/csNews.cgi?database=Hacks%20Target.db&command=viewone&op=t&id=92&rnd=456.53333228240376
Let's do teh math shall we? 10 of teh 12 divisions are bogged down in
Iraq. tropps are forced to stay in Iraq for longer duration than they
were supposed to, reserves are being called up involuntarily. Let me
guess, you think there is absolutely no shortage of troop in Iraq.
So which is it. Should we HAVE a draft or not? You can't do this, y'know,
both call for one, insist that one is required, and then blame the
Republicans for wanting one....when you are the one that does.
How about sending the NeoCons who thought this whole mess is worth it
in the first place?
Thought so. You can't address the facts, so you go off on a tangent.
Facts? You mean like how the WMD rationale turned out to be lies? How
the 911-Saddam link turned out be lies. The neccessity of the draft
comes from the fact that AWOL FUCKED up Iraq. The question is not if
we SHOULD have the draft or not but WHY is Iraq so fucked up that we
even have to consider the draft.
Guess that means you lost.
The only things that are lost are the lives of 1070+ GIs who died for
you and AWOLs WMD lies.
Here's a questiomn for you, see if you have the intellectual honesty
to answer this. Are we forcing the GIs to stay in iraq for a longer
duration than they are initially told to be because a) we don't have
enough troops or b) we just wany to toture our own soldiers.
Now try to tell me again about that rosy Iraq propaganda your NoCon
overlords have been feeding you.
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1075 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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| User: "DianaC" |
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| Title: Re: ***** Cheney: Draft Possible (Let's Send ***** Earl Weber, AWOL amd the Rest of The NeoCons First) |
13 Oct 2004 08:46:12 AM |
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"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message <snip to>
Thought so. You can't address the facts, so you go off on a tangent.
Facts? You mean like how the WMD rationale turned out to be lies? How
the 911-Saddam link turned out be lies. The neccessity of the draft
comes from the fact that AWOL FUCKED up Iraq. The question is not if
we SHOULD have the draft or not but WHY is Iraq so fucked up that we
even have to consider the draft.
Ah. So it IS you guys considering the draft, even though you are charging
the Republicans for thinking about it and using it as a scare tactic to get
people to vote for Kerry. "Vote for Bush and he'll draft your kids and send
them off to be killed", when in reality it's KERRY who will institute a
draft if he is elected.
And you wonder why people like me ignore the other idiotic charges you are
making against Bush.
......and you can't actually address that rather glaring problem, getting
caught in your own lie, so you frantically dredge up all the other old lies,
hoping that people will sorta ignore this one.
Sorry.
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass" |
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| Title: Re: ***** Cheney: Draft Possible (Let's Send ***** Earl Weber, AWOL amd the Rest of The NeoCons First) |
13 Oct 2004 11:29:15 PM |
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On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 13:46:12 GMT, "DianaC" <dianaiad@verizon.net>
wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message <snip to>
Thought so. You can't address the facts, so you go off on a tangent.
Facts? You mean like how the WMD rationale turned out to be lies? How
the 911-Saddam link turned out be lies. The neccessity of the draft
comes from the fact that AWOL FUCKED up Iraq. The question is not if
we SHOULD have the draft or not but WHY is Iraq so fucked up that we
even have to consider the draft.
Ah. So it IS you guys considering the draft, even though you are charging
the Republicans for thinking about it and using it as a scare tactic to get
people to vote for Kerry.
Right, because we can always take AWOL's words. BTW, where's that WMD
again?
Oh, and I noticed you ignored the question, so here it is again:
Are we forcing the GIs to stay in iraq for a longer
duration than they are initially told to be because a) we don't have
enough troops or b) we just wany to toture our own soldiers.
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1075 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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| User: "DianaC" |
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| Title: Re: ***** Cheney: Draft Possible (Let's Send ***** Earl Weber, AWOL amd the Rest of The NeoCons First) |
14 Oct 2004 12:28:13 AM |
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"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:p10sm0db8bag7afncc441601k0tshoomqn@4ax.com...
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 13:46:12 GMT, "DianaC" <dianaiad@verizon.net>
wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message <snip
to>
Thought so. You can't address the facts, so you go off on a tangent.
Facts? You mean like how the WMD rationale turned out to be lies? How
the 911-Saddam link turned out be lies. The neccessity of the draft
comes from the fact that AWOL FUCKED up Iraq. The question is not if
we SHOULD have the draft or not but WHY is Iraq so fucked up that we
even have to consider the draft.
Ah. So it IS you guys considering the draft, even though you are charging
the Republicans for thinking about it and using it as a scare tactic to
get
people to vote for Kerry.
Right, because we can always take AWOL's words. BTW, where's that WMD
again?
Oh, and I noticed you ignored the question, so here it is again:
er...keep to the topic.
Which is that YOU guys are accusing Bush and Cheney of wanting a draft when
they do not, when the only legislation on the floor proposed to permit one
was proposed by a Democrat, and it was voted down almost unanimously...even
the guy proposing it voting against it. The only two who voted for it were
Democrats.
It's difficult, I know, to keep on topic , but do try.
THIS question is about this particular political screwup....and no amount of
attempting to CHANGE the subject will make what you are doing with the draft
"OK".
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass" |
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| Title: Re: ***** Cheney: Draft Possible (Let's Send ***** Earl Weber, AWOL amd the Rest of The NeoCons First) |
14 Oct 2004 12:59:53 AM |
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On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 05:28:13 GMT, "DianaC" <dianaiad@verizon.net>
wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:p10sm0db8bag7afncc441601k0tshoomqn@4ax.com...
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 13:46:12 GMT, "DianaC" <dianaiad@verizon.net>
wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message <snip
to>
Thought so. You can't address the facts, so you go off on a tangent.
Facts? You mean like how the WMD rationale turned out to be lies? How
the 911-Saddam link turned out be lies. The neccessity of the draft
comes from the fact that AWOL FUCKED up Iraq. The question is not if
we SHOULD have the draft or not but WHY is Iraq so fucked up that we
even have to consider the draft.
Ah. So it IS you guys considering the draft, even though you are charging
the Republicans for thinking about it and using it as a scare tactic to
get
people to vote for Kerry.
Right, because we can always take AWOL's words. BTW, where's that WMD
again?
Oh, and I noticed you ignored the question, so here it is again:
er...keep to the topic.
Which is that YOU guys are accusing Bush and Cheney of wanting a draft when
they do not,
Where do I say Cheney and AWOL *want* a draft? If they institute it,
it will be because they need to.
Which goes back to my topic: "***** Cheney: Draft Possible"
Please, tell me where I said Cheney "want" a draft.
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1075 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
.
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| User: "DianaC" |
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| Title: Re: ***** Cheney: Draft Possible (Let's Send ***** Earl Weber, AWOL amd the Rest of The NeoCons First) |
14 Oct 2004 10:03:22 AM |
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"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:sa5sm0dis55ku06bqmeir3dme30pddr4lt@4ax.com...
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 05:28:13 GMT, "DianaC" <dianaiad@verizon.net>
wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:p10sm0db8bag7afncc441601k0tshoomqn@4ax.com...
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 13:46:12 GMT, "DianaC" <dianaiad@verizon.net>
wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message <snip
to>
Thought so. You can't address the facts, so you go off on a tangent.
Facts? You mean like how the WMD rationale turned out to be lies? How
the 911-Saddam link turned out be lies. The neccessity of the draft
comes from the fact that AWOL FUCKED up Iraq. The question is not if
we SHOULD have the draft or not but WHY is Iraq so fucked up that we
even have to consider the draft.
Ah. So it IS you guys considering the draft, even though you are
charging
the Republicans for thinking about it and using it as a scare tactic to
get
people to vote for Kerry.
Right, because we can always take AWOL's words. BTW, where's that WMD
again?
Oh, and I noticed you ignored the question, so here it is again:
er...keep to the topic.
Which is that YOU guys are accusing Bush and Cheney of wanting a draft
when
they do not,
Where do I say Cheney and AWOL *want* a draft? If they institute it,
it will be because they need to.
Which goes back to my topic: "***** Cheney: Draft Possible"
Please, tell me where I said Cheney "want" a draft.
Oh, that's parsing just a little too much for me.
Besides which, it's Kerry who is yelling that there aren't enough troops in
Iraq right now, not Bush.
What I honestly don't get is the complete and utter contempt you have for
the thinking ability of those you want to vote for Kerry; I mean, quite
literally, that you are charging actions and consequences (wanting and/or
requireing a draft) to Bush/Cheney in order to scare people into voting your
way, when you are, quite blatantly, attempting to legislate and justify a
draft yourselves.
When challenged to show where voting for Bush/Cheney would result in those
consequences (a draft) you come back with all the reasons Democrats want
one...and all the reasons why, should Kerry be elected, (partly because you
have scared people into thinking that Bush will draft their children) we
will probably have one.
At which point you will try to blame the Republicans for it.
The sad thing is, you could be correct about the thinking ability of those
who vote Democrat. They MIGHT fall for it.
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| User: "Vash The Stampede" |
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| Title: Re: ***** Cheney: Draft Possible (Let's Send ***** Earl Weber, AWOL amd the Rest of The NeoCons First) |
15 Oct 2004 08:11:43 PM |
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On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 15:03:22 +0000, DianaC wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:sa5sm0dis55ku06bqmeir3dme30pddr4lt@4ax.com...
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 05:28:13 GMT, "DianaC" <dianaiad@verizon.net>
wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:p10sm0db8bag7afncc441601k0tshoomqn@4ax.com...
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 13:46:12 GMT, "DianaC" <dianaiad@verizon.net>
wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message <snip
to>
Thought so. You can't address the facts, so you go off on a tangent.
Facts? You mean like how the WMD rationale turned out to be lies? How
the 911-Saddam link turned out be lies. The neccessity of the draft
comes from the fact that AWOL FUCKED up Iraq. The question is not if
we SHOULD have the draft or not but WHY is Iraq so fucked up that we
even have to consider the draft.
Ah. So it IS you guys considering the draft, even though you are
charging
the Republicans for thinking about it and using it as a scare tactic to
get
people to vote for Kerry.
Right, because we can always take AWOL's words. BTW, where's that WMD
again?
Oh, and I noticed you ignored the question, so here it is again:
er...keep to the topic.
Which is that YOU guys are accusing Bush and Cheney of wanting a draft
when
they do not,
Where do I say Cheney and AWOL *want* a draft? If they institute it,
it will be because they need to.
Which goes back to my topic: "***** Cheney: Draft Possible"
Please, tell me where I said Cheney "want" a draft.
Oh, that's parsing just a little too much for me.
Besides which, it's Kerry who is yelling that there aren't enough troops in
Iraq right now, not Bush.
What I honestly don't get is the complete and utter contempt you have for
the thinking ability of those you want to vote for Kerry; I mean, quite
literally, that you are charging actions and consequences (wanting and/or
requireing a draft) to Bush/Cheney in order to scare people into voting your
way, when you are, quite blatantly, attempting to legislate and justify a
draft yourselves.
When challenged to show where voting for Bush/Cheney would result in those
consequences (a draft) you come back with all the reasons Democrats want
one...and all the reasons why, should Kerry be elected, (partly because you
have scared people into thinking that Bush will draft their children) we
will probably have one.
At which point you will try to blame the Republicans for it.
The sad thing is, you could be correct about the thinking ability of those
who vote Democrat. They MIGHT fall for it.
LOL!
--
Besides, what would they say if I told them
I was hanging out with Vash The Stampede?
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