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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass"
Date: 10 Sep 2006 06:30:06 PM
Object: ***** Cheney Lie fo the Day: Saddam Tied to 911 (GOP, The Party of Treason)
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/10/cheney-cites-zarqawi/
Cheney Ignores Senate Intel Report, Cites Zarqawi As Evidence of
Iraq/Al Qaeda Connection
On Friday, the Senate Intelligence Committee released a report that
concluded there was no relationship between Saddam Hussein and Abu
Musab al-Zarqawi. According to the report, “a CIA assessment in
October 2005 concluded that Hussein’s government ‘did not have a
relationship, harbor, or turn a blind eye toward Zarqawi and his
associates.’” In fact, Hussein tried to capture Zarqawi.
This morning on Meet the Press, Cheney repeatedly cited Zarqawi as the
link between pre-war Iraq and al-Qaeda. When Tim Russert mentioned the
Senate Intelligence Committee report, Cheney said he “hadn’t seen it.”
Watch it:
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The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2666 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
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User: "ZenIsWhen"

Title: Re: ***** Cheney Lie fo the Day: Saddam Tied to 911 (GOP, The Party of Treason) 11 Sep 2006 12:51:42 AM
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
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http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/10/cheney-cites-zarqawi/

Cheney Ignores Senate Intel Report, Cites Zarqawi As Evidence of
Iraq/Al Qaeda Connection

On Friday, the Senate Intelligence Committee released a report that
concluded there was no relationship between Saddam Hussein and Abu
Musab al-Zarqawi. According to the report, "a CIA assessment in
October 2005 concluded that Hussein's government 'did not have a
relationship, harbor, or turn a blind eye toward Zarqawi and his
associates.'" In fact, Hussein tried to capture Zarqawi.

This morning on Meet the Press, Cheney repeatedly cited Zarqawi as the
link between pre-war Iraq and al-Qaeda. When Tim Russert mentioned the
Senate Intelligence Committee report, Cheney said he "hadn't seen it."
Watch it:

"I haven't seen it" comes in at the number two spot in the republican
repertoire of lame excuses.
Ronald Reagan is most famous for the Number ONE, "I don't remember", excuse!




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The Bush 'balanced' budget: -2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and
counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2666 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting

Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless


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User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass"

Title: Re: ***** Cheney Lie fo the Day: Saddam Tied to 911 (GOP, The Party of Treason) 11 Sep 2006 01:02:44 AM
On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 01:51:42 -0400, "ZenIsWhen" <ZenIsWhen@MYOB.com>
wrote:


"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
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http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/10/cheney-cites-zarqawi/

Cheney Ignores Senate Intel Report, Cites Zarqawi As Evidence of
Iraq/Al Qaeda Connection

On Friday, the Senate Intelligence Committee released a report that
concluded there was no relationship between Saddam Hussein and Abu
Musab al-Zarqawi. According to the report, "a CIA assessment in
October 2005 concluded that Hussein's government 'did not have a
relationship, harbor, or turn a blind eye toward Zarqawi and his
associates.'" In fact, Hussein tried to capture Zarqawi.

This morning on Meet the Press, Cheney repeatedly cited Zarqawi as the
link between pre-war Iraq and al-Qaeda. When Tim Russert mentioned the
Senate Intelligence Committee report, Cheney said he "hadn't seen it."
Watch it:



"I haven't seen it" comes in at the number two spot in the republican
repertoire of lame excuses.
Ronald Reagan is most famous for the Number ONE, "I don't remember", excuse!

Or the NeoCon's excuse that starts with "No one could have
anticipated..."





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EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division

The Bush 'balanced' budget: -2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and
counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2666 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting

Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless


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The Bush 'balanced' budget: -2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2666 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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User: "Perseid"

Title: Re: ***** Cheney Lie fo the Day: Saddam Tied to 911 (GOP, The Party of Treason) 11 Sep 2006 07:01:04 AM
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking
AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> Spat the Words

On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 01:51:42 -0400, "ZenIsWhen" <ZenIsWhen@MYOB.com>
wrote:


"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
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http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/10/cheney-cites-zarqawi/

Cheney Ignores Senate Intel Report, Cites Zarqawi As Evidence of
Iraq/Al Qaeda Connection

On Friday, the Senate Intelligence Committee released a report that
concluded there was no relationship between Saddam Hussein and Abu
Musab al-Zarqawi. According to the report, "a CIA assessment in
October 2005 concluded that Hussein's government 'did not have a
relationship, harbor, or turn a blind eye toward Zarqawi and his
associates.'" In fact, Hussein tried to capture Zarqawi.

This morning on Meet the Press, Cheney repeatedly cited Zarqawi as the
link between pre-war Iraq and al-Qaeda. When Tim Russert mentioned the
Senate Intelligence Committee report, Cheney said he "hadn't seen it."
Watch it:



"I haven't seen it" comes in at the number two spot in the republican
repertoire of lame excuses.
Ronald Reagan is most famous for the Number ONE, "I don't remember",
excuse!




Or the NeoCon's excuse that starts with "No one could have
anticipated..."

Then there's the "if only Clinton had dealt with this" excuse
(as if Bush wasn't warned repeatedly in the run-up to 9-11).









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The Bush 'balanced' budget: -2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and
counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2666 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and
mounting

Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless


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EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division

The Bush 'balanced' budget: -2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than
Clinton and counting The Bush Iraq lie: -2666 GIs, one
friend's co-worker's son and mounting

Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless


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User: "Aeroplan"

Title: Re: ***** Cheney Lie fo the Day: Saddam Tied to 911 (GOP, The Party of Treason) 11 Sep 2006 06:10:31 PM
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
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http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/10/cheney-cites-zarqawi/

Cheney Ignores Senate Intel Report, Cites Zarqawi As Evidence of
Iraq/Al Qaeda Connection

On Friday, the Senate Intelligence Committee released a report that
concluded there was no relationship between Saddam Hussein and Abu
Musab al-Zarqawi. According to the report, "a CIA assessment in
October 2005 concluded that Hussein's government 'did not have a
relationship, harbor, or turn a blind eye toward Zarqawi and his
associates.'" In fact, Hussein tried to capture Zarqawi.

This morning on Meet the Press, Cheney repeatedly cited Zarqawi as the
link between pre-war Iraq and al-Qaeda. When Tim Russert mentioned the
Senate Intelligence Committee report, Cheney said he "hadn't seen it."
Watch it:

Cheney didn't get the memo titled: ***** 9/11 Ties No Longer Acceptable
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User: "Perseid"

Title: Re: ***** Cheney Lie fo the Day: Saddam Tied to 911 (GOP, The Party of Treason) 11 Sep 2006 08:59:00 PM
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Aeroplan" <aplan_yvr@shaw.ca>
Spat the Words


"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
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http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/10/cheney-cites-zarqawi/

Cheney Ignores Senate Intel Report, Cites Zarqawi As Evidence of
Iraq/Al Qaeda Connection

On Friday, the Senate Intelligence Committee released a report that
concluded there was no relationship between Saddam Hussein and Abu
Musab al-Zarqawi. According to the report, "a CIA assessment in
October 2005 concluded that Hussein's government 'did not have a
relationship, harbor, or turn a blind eye toward Zarqawi and his
associates.'" In fact, Hussein tried to capture Zarqawi.

This morning on Meet the Press, Cheney repeatedly cited Zarqawi as the
link between pre-war Iraq and al-Qaeda. When Tim Russert mentioned the
Senate Intelligence Committee report, Cheney said he "hadn't seen it."
Watch it:


Cheney didn't get the memo titled: ***** 9/11 Ties No Longer
Acceptable

Oh he got that memo, but in his convoluted cloak and dagger
scheme of thinking he is disavowing that he ever received it.
.


User: ""

Title: Re: ***** Cheney Lie fo the Day: Saddam Tied to 911 (GOP, The Party of Treason) 11 Sep 2006 06:21:04 PM
On the New that America was attacked, Saddam celebrated by firing a gun
in the air while the whole
world was being sympathetic to America. Saddam and Al-quaeda were
celebrating. Now in the
Arabian mentality and parlance, what Saddam did means the target has
been hit.
Would those who made the claim that Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11
come forward and explain us why Saddam did what he did?
A report is just a claim and nothing else. Now we are facing two
reports, Bush and Cheney report
and the senate report. The senate could get it wrong. They are not
infaillible....
Do not dismiss Cheney viewpoint fools
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/10/cheney-cites-zarqawi/

Cheney Ignores Senate Intel Report, Cites Zarqawi As Evidence of
Iraq/Al Qaeda Connection

On Friday, the Senate Intelligence Committee released a report that
concluded there was no relationship between Saddam Hussein and Abu
Musab al-Zarqawi. According to the report, "a CIA assessment in
October 2005 concluded that Hussein's government 'did not have a
relationship, harbor, or turn a blind eye toward Zarqawi and his
associates.'" In fact, Hussein tried to capture Zarqawi.

This morning on Meet the Press, Cheney repeatedly cited Zarqawi as the
link between pre-war Iraq and al-Qaeda. When Tim Russert mentioned the
Senate Intelligence Committee report, Cheney said he "hadn't seen it."
Watch it:



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EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division

The Bush 'balanced' budget: -2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2666 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting

Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless


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User: ""

Title: Re: ***** Cheney Lie fo the Day: Saddam Tied to 911 (GOP, The Party of Treason) 12 Sep 2006 01:17:39 PM
wrote:

On the New that America was attacked, Saddam celebrated by firing a gun
in the air while the whole
world was being sympathetic to America. Saddam and Al-quaeda were
celebrating. Now in the
Arabian mentality and parlance, what Saddam did means the target has
been hit.
Would those who made the claim that Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11
come forward and explain us why Saddam did what he did?

Firing a gun in the air proves that he was involved? Not even Cheney
would say something that dumb. On second thought, maybe he would.
A report is just a claim and nothing else. Now we are facing two

reports, Bush and Cheney report
and the senate report. The senate could get it wrong. They are not
infaillible....



Cheney Ignores Senate Intel Report, Cites Zarqawi As Evidence of
Iraq/Al Qaeda Connection

On Friday, the Senate Intelligence Committee released a report that
concluded there was no relationship between Saddam Hussein and Abu
Musab al-Zarqawi. According to the report, "a CIA assessment in
October 2005 concluded that Hussein's government 'did not have a
relationship, harbor, or turn a blind eye toward Zarqawi and his
associates.'" In fact, Hussein tried to capture Zarqawi.

This morning on Meet the Press, Cheney repeatedly cited Zarqawi as the
link between pre-war Iraq and al-Qaeda. When Tim Russert mentioned the
Senate Intelligence Committee report, Cheney said he "hadn't seen it."
Watch it:



-----
Yang
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AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division

The Bush 'balanced' budget: -2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2666 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting

Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless


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User: ""

Title: Re: ***** Cheney Lie fo the Day: Saddam Tied to 911 (GOP, The Party of Treason) 13 Sep 2006 01:24:02 PM
wrote:

codebreaker@bigsecret.com wrote:

On the New that America was attacked, Saddam celebrated by firing a gun
in the air while the whole
world was being sympathetic to America. Saddam and Al-quaeda were
celebrating. Now in the
Arabian mentality and parlance, what Saddam did means the target has
been hit.
Would those who made the claim that Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11
come forward and explain us why Saddam did what he did?



Firing a gun in the air proves that he was involved? Not even Cheney
would say something that dumb. On second thought, maybe he would.


***** YOU, where did I say fring a gun proves that it was involved?
This is what I said with regard to Arabian culture: The target has
been hit.
And this implies involvement
.
User: ""

Title: Re: ***** Cheney Lie fo the Day: Saddam Tied to 911 (GOP, The Party of Treason) 13 Sep 2006 01:39:53 PM
wrote:

johnb505@gmail.com wrote:

codebreaker@bigsecret.com wrote:

On the New that America was attacked, Saddam celebrated by firing a gun
in the air while the whole
world was being sympathetic to America. Saddam and Al-quaeda were
celebrating. Now in the
Arabian mentality and parlance, what Saddam did means the target has
been hit.
Would those who made the claim that Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11
come forward and explain us why Saddam did what he did?



Firing a gun in the air proves that he was involved? Not even Cheney
would say something that dumb. On second thought, maybe he would.



***** YOU, where did I say fring a gun proves that it was involved?
This is what I said with regard to Arabian culture: The target has
been hit.
And this implies involvement

Firing a gun in the air means "the target has been hit"? Can you
provide some reference for that?
.


User: "Pastor Dave"

Title: Re: ***** Cheney Lie fo the Day: Saddam Tied to 911 (GOP, The Party of Treason) 12 Sep 2006 03:43:08 PM
On 12 Sep 2006 11:17:39 -0700,
spake thusly:

codebreaker@bigsecret.com wrote:

On the New that America was attacked, Saddam celebrated by firing a gun
in the air while the whole
world was being sympathetic to America. Saddam and Al-quaeda were
celebrating. Now in the
Arabian mentality and parlance, what Saddam did means the target has
been hit.
Would those who made the claim that Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11
come forward and explain us why Saddam did what he did?



Firing a gun in the air proves that he was involved? Not even Cheney
would say something that dumb. On second thought, maybe he would.

Some people are desperate. :)
This is Ray (posting the above that you responded to). Ray is an
idiot who keeps trying to use his supposed "code calculator" to
claim that whoever he doesn't like, is "The AntiChrist". (:
--
"Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass,
till all these things be fulfilled." - Matthew 24:34
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"For the word of God is sharper than any two edged sword."
"Worry is interest paid on trouble before it is due."
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User: "timeOday"

Title: Re: ***** Cheney Lie fo the Day: Saddam Tied to 911 (GOP, The Partyof Treason) 11 Sep 2006 09:56:49 PM
wrote:

On the New that America was attacked, Saddam celebrated by firing a gun
in the air while the whole
world was being sympathetic to America. Saddam and Al-quaeda were
celebrating. Now in the
Arabian mentality and parlance, what Saddam did means the target has
been hit.
Would those who made the claim that Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11
come forward and explain us why Saddam did what he did?
A report is just a claim and nothing else. Now we are facing two
reports, Bush and Cheney report
and the senate report. The senate could get it wrong. They are not
infaillible....

I guess you didn't get the memo. Even Bush himself has admitted Iraq
had nothing to do with 911.
And the idea that we invaded Iraq just because Saddam was happy we got
attacked is outright insane.
<http://blog.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2006/08/parsing_the_polls_terrorism_an.html>
When asked what the 9-11 attacks had to do with Iraq, Bush said:
"Nothing. Except for it's part of -- and nobody's ever suggested in this
administration that Saddam Hussein ordered the attack. Iraq was a --
Iraq -- the lesson of September the 11th is: Take threats before they
fully materialize... Nobody's ever suggested that the attacks of
September the 11th were ordered by Iraq.
.

User: "Flash Bazbo"

Title: Re: ***** Cheney Lie fo the Day: Saddam Tied to 911 (GOP, The Party of Treason) 11 Sep 2006 09:39:27 PM
On 11 Sep 2006 16:21:04 -0700, "codebreaker@bigsecret.com"
<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote:

On the New that America was attacked, Saddam celebrated by firing a gun
in the air while the whole
world was being sympathetic to America. Saddam and Al-quaeda were
celebrating. Now in the
Arabian mentality and parlance, what Saddam did means the target has
been hit.
Would those who made the claim that Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11
come forward and explain us why Saddam did what he did?

Because he owned a television and watched with the rest of us? By
your logic everyone shown celebrating the fall of the WTC was part of
the plot.

A report is just a claim and nothing else. Now we are facing two
reports, Bush and Cheney report
and the senate report. The senate could get it wrong. They are not
infaillible....

Compared to Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld they are downright psychic.


Do not dismiss Cheney viewpoint fools

When I read this statement it is in Cheney's voice..........creepy!







Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/10/cheney-cites-zarqawi/








Cheney Ignores Senate Intel Report, Cites Zarqawi As Evidence of
Iraq/Al Qaeda Connection

On Friday, the Senate Intelligence Committee released a report that
concluded there was no relationship between Saddam Hussein and Abu
Musab al-Zarqawi. According to the report, "a CIA assessment in
October 2005 concluded that Hussein's government 'did not have a
relationship, harbor, or turn a blind eye toward Zarqawi and his
associates.'" In fact, Hussein tried to capture Zarqawi.

This morning on Meet the Press, Cheney repeatedly cited Zarqawi as the
link between pre-war Iraq and al-Qaeda. When Tim Russert mentioned the
Senate Intelligence Committee report, Cheney said he "hadn't seen it."
Watch it:



-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division

The Bush 'balanced' budget: -2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2666 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting

Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless


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User: "Free Lunch"

Title: Re: ***** Cheney Lie fo the Day: Saddam Tied to 911 (GOP, The Party of Treason) 11 Sep 2006 06:28:46 PM
On 11 Sep 2006 16:21:04 -0700, in alt.atheism
"codebreaker@bigsecret.com" <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> rudely topposted
in <1158016864.342919.204830@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>:

On the New that America was attacked, Saddam celebrated by firing a gun
in the air while the whole
world was being sympathetic to America. Saddam and Al-quaeda were
celebrating. Now in the
Arabian mentality and parlance, what Saddam did means the target has
been hit.

Saddam had his military destroyed and was being constantly bombed by the
US, the evidence all showed that he had nothing to do with the 9/11
attack, but it's not hard to understand why he might have been pleased
that his mortal enemy had suffered a bit.

Would those who made the claim that Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11
come forward and explain us why Saddam did what he did?

Didn't anyone tell you about the Gulf War or the subsequent no-fly zones
and routine military attacks that the US and its allies waged on Saddam?
Are you really that ignorant of history?

A report is just a claim and nothing else. Now we are facing two
reports, Bush and Cheney report
and the senate report. The senate could get it wrong. They are not
infaillible....

But Bush and Cheney have a demonstrated propensity to lie. They didn't
get it wrong. They lied.

Do not dismiss Cheney viewpoint fools

Only suckers believe anything Cheney claims any more. He has already
demonstrated that he cannot be relied on for truth.
....
.
User: ""

Title: Re: ***** Cheney Lie fo the Day: Saddam Tied to 911 (GOP, The Party of Treason) 12 Sep 2006 12:51:49 PM
Free Lunch wrote:

On 11 Sep 2006 16:21:04 -0700, in alt.atheism
"codebreaker@bigsecret.com" <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> rudely topposted
in <1158016864.342919.204830@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>:

On the New that America was attacked, Saddam celebrated by firing a gun
in the air while the whole
world was being sympathetic to America. Saddam and Al-quaeda were
celebrating. Now in the
Arabian mentality and parlance, what Saddam did means the target has
been hit.


Saddam had his military destroyed and was being constantly bombed by the
US, the evidence all showed that he had nothing to do with the 9/11

Sorry but it did not take a military force to take the twin towers
down.
It took only some Arabs men studying in America.
Saddam having his Military destroyed is irrelevant

attack, but it's not hard to understand why he might have been pleased
that his mortal enemy had suffered a bit.

.
User: "Free Lunch"

Title: Re: ***** Cheney Lie fo the Day: Saddam Tied to 911 (GOP, The Party of Treason) 12 Sep 2006 06:11:58 PM
On 12 Sep 2006 10:51:49 -0700, in alt.atheism
Codebreaker@bigsecret.com wrote in
<1158083508.881018.223880@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:


Free Lunch wrote:

On 11 Sep 2006 16:21:04 -0700, in alt.atheism
"codebreaker@bigsecret.com" <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> rudely topposted
in <1158016864.342919.204830@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>:

On the New that America was attacked, Saddam celebrated by firing a gun
in the air while the whole
world was being sympathetic to America. Saddam and Al-quaeda were
celebrating. Now in the
Arabian mentality and parlance, what Saddam did means the target has
been hit.


Saddam had his military destroyed and was being constantly bombed by the
US, the evidence all showed that he had nothing to do with the 9/11




Sorry but it did not take a military force to take the twin towers
down.
It took only some Arabs men studying in America.
Saddam having his Military destroyed is irrelevant

Your answer didn't address my point. We had already attacked Saddam. Of
course he was happy that someone attacked us. He didn't care who did it.
Please don't forget that this was an attack by Saudi Arabian citizens
for the most part, yet we attacked the country that Saudi Arabia feared
most less than two years after this attack. President Bush is remarkably
stupid.

attack, but it's not hard to understand why he might have been pleased
that his mortal enemy had suffered a bit.

.
User: ""

Title: Re: ***** Cheney Lie fo the Day: Saddam Tied to 911 (GOP, The Party of Treason) 13 Sep 2006 01:25:19 PM
Free Lunch wrote:

On 12 Sep 2006 10:51:49 -0700, in alt.atheism
Codebreaker@bigsecret.com wrote in
<1158083508.881018.223880@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:


Free Lunch wrote:

On 11 Sep 2006 16:21:04 -0700, in alt.atheism
"codebreaker@bigsecret.com" <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> rudely topposted
in <1158016864.342919.204830@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>:

On the New that America was attacked, Saddam celebrated by firing a gun
in the air while the whole
world was being sympathetic to America. Saddam and Al-quaeda were
celebrating. Now in the
Arabian mentality and parlance, what Saddam did means the target has
been hit.


Saddam had his military destroyed and was being constantly bombed by the
US, the evidence all showed that he had nothing to do with the 9/11




Sorry but it did not take a military force to take the twin towers
down.
It took only some Arabs men studying in America.
Saddam having his Military destroyed is irrelevant


Your answer didn't address my point. We had already attacked Saddam. Of
course he was happy that someone attacked us. He didn't care who did it.

Please don't forget that this was an attack by Saudi Arabian citizens
for the most part, yet we attacked the country that Saudi Arabia feared
most less than two years after this attack. President Bush is remarkably
stupid.

Arab is Arab




attack, but it's not hard to understand why he might have been pleased
that his mortal enemy had suffered a bit.

.
User: "Free Lunch"

Title: Re: ***** Cheney Lie fo the Day: Saddam Tied to 911 (GOP, The Party of Treason) 13 Sep 2006 05:31:53 PM
On 13 Sep 2006 11:25:19 -0700, in alt.atheism
Codebreaker@bigsecret.com wrote in
<1158171919.139301.62490@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:


Free Lunch wrote:

On 12 Sep 2006 10:51:49 -0700, in alt.atheism
Codebreaker@bigsecret.com wrote in
<1158083508.881018.223880@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:


Free Lunch wrote:

On 11 Sep 2006 16:21:04 -0700, in alt.atheism
"codebreaker@bigsecret.com" <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> rudely topposted
in <1158016864.342919.204830@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>:

On the New that America was attacked, Saddam celebrated by firing a gun
in the air while the whole
world was being sympathetic to America. Saddam and Al-quaeda were
celebrating. Now in the
Arabian mentality and parlance, what Saddam did means the target has
been hit.


Saddam had his military destroyed and was being constantly bombed by the
US, the evidence all showed that he had nothing to do with the 9/11




Sorry but it did not take a military force to take the twin towers
down.
It took only some Arabs men studying in America.
Saddam having his Military destroyed is irrelevant


Your answer didn't address my point. We had already attacked Saddam. Of
course he was happy that someone attacked us. He didn't care who did it.

Please don't forget that this was an attack by Saudi Arabian citizens
for the most part, yet we attacked the country that Saudi Arabia feared
most less than two years after this attack. President Bush is remarkably
stupid.



Arab is Arab

Your bigotry is showing.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: ***** Cheney Lie fo the Day: Saddam Tied to 911 (GOP, The Party of Treason) 13 Sep 2006 06:42:00 PM
Free Lunch wrote:

On 13 Sep 2006 11:25:19 -0700, in alt.atheism
Codebreaker@bigsecret.com wrote in
<1158171919.139301.62490@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:


Free Lunch wrote:

On 12 Sep 2006 10:51:49 -0700, in alt.atheism
Codebreaker@bigsecret.com wrote in
<1158083508.881018.223880@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:


Free Lunch wrote:

On 11 Sep 2006 16:21:04 -0700, in alt.atheism
"codebreaker@bigsecret.com" <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> rudely topposted
in <1158016864.342919.204830@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>:

On the New that America was attacked, Saddam celebrated by firing a gun
in the air while the whole
world was being sympathetic to America. Saddam and Al-quaeda were
celebrating. Now in the
Arabian mentality and parlance, what Saddam did means the target has
been hit.


Saddam had his military destroyed and was being constantly bombed by the
US, the evidence all showed that he had nothing to do with the 9/11




Sorry but it did not take a military force to take the twin towers
down.
It took only some Arabs men studying in America.
Saddam having his Military destroyed is irrelevant


Your answer didn't address my point. We had already attacked Saddam. Of
course he was happy that someone attacked us. He didn't care who did it.

Please don't forget that this was an attack by Saudi Arabian citizens
for the most part, yet we attacked the country that Saudi Arabia feared
most less than two years after this attack. President Bush is remarkably
stupid.



Arab is Arab


Your bigotry is showing.

Yours is not. And that is more dangerous
.
User: "Free Lunch"

Title: Re: ***** Cheney Lie fo the Day: Saddam Tied to 911 (GOP, The Party of Treason) 13 Sep 2006 08:47:41 PM
On 13 Sep 2006 16:42:00 -0700, in alt.atheism
Codebreaker@bigsecret.com wrote in
<1158190920.509678.202290@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>:


Free Lunch wrote:

On 13 Sep 2006 11:25:19 -0700, in alt.atheism
Codebreaker@bigsecret.com wrote in
<1158171919.139301.62490@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:


Free Lunch wrote:

On 12 Sep 2006 10:51:49 -0700, in alt.atheism
Codebreaker@bigsecret.com wrote in
<1158083508.881018.223880@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:


Free Lunch wrote:

On 11 Sep 2006 16:21:04 -0700, in alt.atheism
"codebreaker@bigsecret.com" <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> rudely topposted
in <1158016864.342919.204830@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>:

On the New that America was attacked, Saddam celebrated by firing a gun
in the air while the whole
world was being sympathetic to America. Saddam and Al-quaeda were
celebrating. Now in the
Arabian mentality and parlance, what Saddam did means the target has
been hit.


Saddam had his military destroyed and was being constantly bombed by the
US, the evidence all showed that he had nothing to do with the 9/11




Sorry but it did not take a military force to take the twin towers
down.
It took only some Arabs men studying in America.
Saddam having his Military destroyed is irrelevant


Your answer didn't address my point. We had already attacked Saddam. Of
course he was happy that someone attacked us. He didn't care who did it.

Please don't forget that this was an attack by Saudi Arabian citizens
for the most part, yet we attacked the country that Saudi Arabia feared
most less than two years after this attack. President Bush is remarkably
stupid.



Arab is Arab


Your bigotry is showing.



Yours is not. And that is more dangerous

Not everyone is a bigot. Just because you are one, that doesn't mean
everyone is.
.






User: ""

Title: Re: ***** Cheney Lie fo the Day: Saddam Tied to 911 (GOP, The Party of Treason) 12 Sep 2006 12:53:49 PM
Free Lunch wrote:

Saddam had his military destroyed and was being constantly bombed by the
US, the evidence all showed that he had nothing to do with the 9/11
attack, but it's not hard to understand why he might have been pleased
that his mortal enemy had suffered a bit.

Would those who made the claim that Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11
come forward and explain us why Saddam did what he did?


Didn't anyone tell you about the Gulf War or the subsequent no-fly zones
and routine military attacks that the US and its allies waged on Saddam?
Are you really that ignorant of history?

If this can be a cause for celebration, it can also be a reason for
plotting
the attack on America.
.
User: "Free Lunch"

Title: Re: ***** Cheney Lie fo the Day: Saddam Tied to 911 (GOP, The Party of Treason) 12 Sep 2006 06:13:13 PM
On 12 Sep 2006 10:53:49 -0700, in alt.atheism
Codebreaker@bigsecret.com wrote in
<1158083629.782085.304940@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>:


Free Lunch wrote:

Saddam had his military destroyed and was being constantly bombed by the
US, the evidence all showed that he had nothing to do with the 9/11
attack, but it's not hard to understand why he might have been pleased
that his mortal enemy had suffered a bit.

Would those who made the claim that Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11
come forward and explain us why Saddam did what he did?


Didn't anyone tell you about the Gulf War or the subsequent no-fly zones
and routine military attacks that the US and its allies waged on Saddam?
Are you really that ignorant of history?



If this can be a cause for celebration, it can also be a reason for
plotting
the attack on America.

Fine, you are willing to drink the flavor-ade. You will not listen to
facts. You are just a sucker for the grandson of a Nazi collaborator.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: ***** Cheney Lie fo the Day: Saddam Tied to 911 (GOP, The Party of Treason) 13 Sep 2006 01:27:46 PM
Free Lunch wrote:

On 12 Sep 2006 10:53:49 -0700, in alt.atheism
Codebreaker@bigsecret.com wrote in
<1158083629.782085.304940@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>:


Free Lunch wrote:

Saddam had his military destroyed and was being constantly bombed by the
US, the evidence all showed that he had nothing to do with the 9/11
attack, but it's not hard to understand why he might have been pleased
that his mortal enemy had suffered a bit.

Would those who made the claim that Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11
come forward and explain us why Saddam did what he did?


Didn't anyone tell you about the Gulf War or the subsequent no-fly zones
and routine military attacks that the US and its allies waged on Saddam?
Are you really that ignorant of history?



If this can be a cause for celebration, it can also be a reason for
plotting
the attack on America.


Fine, you are willing to drink the flavor-ade. You will not listen to
facts. You are just a sucker for the grandson of a Nazi collaborator.

Facts??? What fact? I wish you knew what facts I have with me...
Y' a don't know what is going on, but we do.
We know why America was attacked
.





User: "Richo"

Title: Re: ***** Cheney Lie fo the Day: Saddam Tied to 911 (GOP, The Party of Treason) 11 Sep 2006 12:50:22 AM
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/10/cheney-cites-zarqawi/

Cheney Ignores Senate Intel Report, Cites Zarqawi As Evidence of
Iraq/Al Qaeda Connection

On Friday, the Senate Intelligence Committee released a report that
concluded there was no relationship between Saddam Hussein and Abu
Musab al-Zarqawi. According to the report, "a CIA assessment in
October 2005 concluded that Hussein's government 'did not have a
relationship, harbor, or turn a blind eye toward Zarqawi and his
associates.'" In fact, Hussein tried to capture Zarqawi.

This morning on Meet the Press, Cheney repeatedly cited Zarqawi as the
link between pre-war Iraq and al-Qaeda. When Tim Russert mentioned the
Senate Intelligence Committee report, Cheney said he "hadn't seen it."
Watch it:

Amazing - he says Zarqawi fled from Afghanistan to Bagdad to set up
his new base.
What actually happened - Zarquarwi fled from afghanistan and set up his
new base in northern iraq - where Saddam had no control.
People within CIA urged the whitehouse to kill Zarquarwi (cruise
missile) while he was in this camp in northern Iraq - they didnt -
after the invasion of iraq zarquarwi could move to Bagdad and kill
americans.
Mark.
.
User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass"

Title: Re: ***** Cheney Lie fo the Day: Saddam Tied to 911 (GOP, The Party of Treason) 11 Sep 2006 01:01:22 AM
On 10 Sep 2006 22:50:22 -0700, "Richo" <m.richardson@utas.edu.au>
wrote:


Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/10/cheney-cites-zarqawi/

Cheney Ignores Senate Intel Report, Cites Zarqawi As Evidence of
Iraq/Al Qaeda Connection

On Friday, the Senate Intelligence Committee released a report that
concluded there was no relationship between Saddam Hussein and Abu
Musab al-Zarqawi. According to the report, "a CIA assessment in
October 2005 concluded that Hussein's government 'did not have a
relationship, harbor, or turn a blind eye toward Zarqawi and his
associates.'" In fact, Hussein tried to capture Zarqawi.

This morning on Meet the Press, Cheney repeatedly cited Zarqawi as the
link between pre-war Iraq and al-Qaeda. When Tim Russert mentioned the
Senate Intelligence Committee report, Cheney said he "hadn't seen it."
Watch it:

Amazing - he says Zarqawi fled from Afghanistan to Bagdad to set up
his new base.
What actually happened - Zarquarwi fled from afghanistan and set up his
new base in northern iraq - where Saddam had no control.
People within CIA urged the whitehouse to kill Zarquarwi (cruise
missile) while he was in this camp in northern Iraq - they didnt -
after the invasion of iraq zarquarwi could move to Bagdad and kill
americans.

Mark.

GOP, the party of treason.
Is there any doubt?
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
The Bush 'balanced' budget: -2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2666 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
newsgroups Yang promises not to revenge post
in response to Sound-of-Trumpet's *****:
rec.art.scifi.written
sci.archaeology
soc.history.what-if
.


User: "Danzig"

Title: Re: ***** Cheney Lie fo the Day: Saddam Tied to 911 (GOP, The Partyof Treason) 10 Sep 2006 09:04:32 PM
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/10/cheney-cites-zarqawi/

Cheney Ignores Senate Intel Report, Cites Zarqawi As Evidence of
Iraq/Al Qaeda Connection

On Friday, the Senate Intelligence Committee released a report that
concluded there was no relationship between Saddam Hussein and Abu
Musab al-Zarqawi. According to the report, “a CIA assessment in
October 2005 concluded that Hussein’s government ‘did not have a
relationship, harbor, or turn a blind eye toward Zarqawi and his
associates.’” In fact, Hussein tried to capture Zarqawi.

This morning on Meet the Press, Cheney repeatedly cited Zarqawi as the
link between pre-war Iraq and al-Qaeda. When Tim Russert mentioned the
Senate Intelligence Committee report, Cheney said he “hadn’t seen it.”
Watch it:

you would expect anything else??
.
User: "Fester"

Title: Re: ***** Cheney Lie fo the Day: Saddam Tied to 911 (GOP, The Party of Treason) 11 Sep 2006 06:33:17 AM
"Danzig" <tyatcak@telus.net> wrote in message
news:Qu3Ng.2008$KA6.764@clgrps12...

Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/10/cheney-cites-zarqawi/

Cheney Ignores Senate Intel Report, Cites Zarqawi As Evidence of
Iraq/Al Qaeda Connection

On Friday, the Senate Intelligence Committee released a report that
concluded there was no relationship between Saddam Hussein and Abu
Musab al-Zarqawi. According to the report, “a CIA assessment in
October 2005 concluded that Hussein’s government ‘did not have a
relationship, harbor, or turn a blind eye toward Zarqawi and his
associates.’” In fact, Hussein tried to capture Zarqawi.

This morning on Meet the Press, Cheney repeatedly cited Zarqawi as the
link between pre-war Iraq and al-Qaeda. When Tim Russert mentioned the
Senate Intelligence Committee report, Cheney said he “hadn’t seen it.”
Watch it:


you would expect anything else??

This is precisely the kind of BS I would expect from lying ***** stains like
you:
<quote>
MR. RUSSERT: Then why, in the lead-up to the war, was there the constant
linkage between Iraq and al-Qaeda?
VICE PRES. CHENEY: That’s a different issue. Now, there’s a question of
whether or not al-Qaeda, or whether or not Iraq was involved in 9/11. There’s
a separate—apart from that’s the issue of whether or not there was a
historic relationship between Iraq and al-Qaeda. The basis for that is
probably best captured in George Tenet’s testimony before the Senate Intel
Commission, an open session, where he said specifically that there was a
pattern of relationship that went back at least a decade between Iraq and
al-Qaeda.
MR. RUSSERT: But the president said they were working in concert, giving the
strong suggestion to the American people that they were involved in
September 11th.
VICE PRES. CHENEY: No. There are, there are two totally different
propositions here, and people have consistently tried to confuse them. And
it’s important, I think—there’s a third proposition, as well, too, and that
is Iraq’s traditional position as a strong sponsor of terror.
So you’ve got Iraq and 9/11, no evidence that there’s a connection. You’ve
got Iraq and al-Qaeda, testimony from the director of CIA that there was
indeed a relationship, Zarqawi in Baghdad, etc. Then the third...
MR. RUSSERT: The committee said that there was no relationship. In fact...
VICE PRES. CHENEY: Well, I haven’t seen the report; I haven’t had a chance
to read it yet, but the fact is...
MR. RUSSERT: But Mr. Vice President, the bottom line is...
VICE PRES. CHENEY: We know, we know that Zarqawi, running a terrorist camp
in Afghanistan prior to 9/11, after we went in to 9/11, then fled and went
to Baghdad and set up operations in Baghdad in the spring of ‘02 and was
there from then, basically, until basically the time we launched into Iraq.
MR. RUSSERT: The bottom line is, the rationale given the American people was
that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction and he could give those weapons
of mass destruction to al-Qaeda and we could have another September 11. And
now we read that there is no evidence, according to the Senate Intelligence
Committee, of that relationship. You’ve said there’s no involvement. The
president says there’s no involvement.
VICE PRES. CHENEY: No, Tim, no involvement in what respect?
MR. RUSSERT: In September 11, OK. The CIA said, leading up to the war, that
the possibility of Saddam using weapons of mass destruction was “low.” It
appears that there was a deliberate attempt made by the administration to
link al-Qaeda in Iraq in the minds of the American people and use it as a
rationale to go into Iraq.
VICE PRES. CHENEY: Tim, I guess—I don’t—I’m not sure what part you don’t
understand here. In September—or in 1990, the State Department designated
Iraq as a state sponsor of terror. Abu Nidal, famous terrorist, had
sanctuary in, in Baghdad for years. Zarqawi was in Baghdad after we took
Afghanistan and before we went into Iraq. You had the facility up at Kermal,
poisons facility, ran by Ansar Islam, an affiliate of al-Qaeda. You had the
fact that Saddam Hussein, for example, provided payments to the families of
suicide bombers of $25,000 on a regular basis. This was a state sponsor of
terror. He had a relationship with terror groups. No question about it.
Nobody denies that.
The evidence we also had at the time was that he had a relationship with
al-Qaeda. And that was George Tenet’s testimony, the director of the CIA, in
front of the Senate Intelligence Committee. We also have a—had knowledge of
the fact that he had produced and used weapons of mass destruction and we
know, as well, that while he did not have any production under way at the
time, that he’s clearly retained the capability, and the expectation from
the experts was as soon as the sanctions were lifted he’d be back in
business again.
Now this was the place where, probably, there was a greater prospect of a
connection between terrorists on the one hand and a terrorist-sponsoring
state and weapons of mass destruction than any place else. You talk about
Iran, North Korea, they’re problems, too, but they hadn’t been through 12
years of sanctions and resolutions by the U.N. Security Council and ignored
them with impunity.
</quote>
.
User: "Perseid"

Title: Re: ***** Cheney Lie fo the Day: Saddam Tied to 911 (GOP, The Party of Treason) 11 Sep 2006 07:04:22 AM
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Fester" <not@home.com> Spat the
Words


"Danzig" <tyatcak@telus.net> wrote in message
news:Qu3Ng.2008$KA6.764@clgrps12...

Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/10/cheney-cites-zarqawi/

Cheney Ignores Senate Intel Report, Cites Zarqawi As Evidence of
Iraq/Al Qaeda Connection

On Friday, the Senate Intelligence Committee released a report that
concluded there was no relationship between Saddam Hussein and Abu
Musab al-Zarqawi. According to the report, “a CIA assessment in
October 2005 concluded that Hussein’s government ‘did not have a
relationship, harbor, or turn a blind eye toward Zarqawi and his
associates.’” In fact, Hussein tried to capture Zarqawi.

This morning on Meet the Press, Cheney repeatedly cited Zarqawi as the
link between pre-war Iraq and al-Qaeda. When Tim Russert mentioned the
Senate Intelligence Committee report, Cheney said he “hadn’t seen it.”
Watch it:


you would expect anything else??


This is precisely the kind of BS I would expect from lying ***** stains
like you:

<quote>
MR. RUSSERT: Then why, in the lead-up to the war, was there the constant
linkage between Iraq and al-Qaeda?
VICE PRES. CHENEY: That’s a different issue. Now, there’s a question of
whether or not al-Qaeda, or whether or not Iraq was involved in 9/11.
There’s a separate—apart from that’s the issue of whether or not there
was a historic relationship between Iraq and al-Qaeda. The basis for
that is probably best captured in George Tenet’s testimony before the
Senate Intel Commission, an open session, where he said specifically
that there was a pattern of relationship that went back at least a
decade between Iraq and al-Qaeda.
MR. RUSSERT: But the president said they were working in concert, giving
the strong suggestion to the American people that they were involved in
September 11th.
VICE PRES. CHENEY: No. There are, there are two totally different
propositions here, and people have consistently tried to confuse them.
And it’s important, I think—there’s a third proposition, as well, too,
and that is Iraq’s traditional position as a strong sponsor of terror.
So you’ve got Iraq and 9/11, no evidence that there’s a connection.
You’ve got Iraq and al-Qaeda, testimony from the director of CIA that
there was indeed a relationship, Zarqawi in Baghdad, etc. Then the
third... MR. RUSSERT: The committee said that there was no relationship.
In fact... VICE PRES. CHENEY: Well, I haven’t seen the report; I haven’t
had a chance to read it yet, but the fact is...
MR. RUSSERT: But Mr. Vice President, the bottom line is...
VICE PRES. CHENEY: We know, we know that Zarqawi, running a terrorist
camp in Afghanistan prior to 9/11, after we went in to 9/11, then fled
and went to Baghdad and set up operations in Baghdad in the spring of
‘02 and was there from then, basically, until basically the time we
launched into Iraq. MR. RUSSERT: The bottom line is, the rationale given
the American people was that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction and
he could give those weapons of mass destruction to al-Qaeda and we could
have another September 11. And now we read that there is no evidence,
according to the Senate Intelligence Committee, of that relationship.
You’ve said there’s no involvement. The president says there’s no
involvement. VICE PRES. CHENEY: No, Tim, no involvement in what respect?
MR. RUSSERT: In September 11, OK. The CIA said, leading up to the war,
that the possibility of Saddam using weapons of mass destruction was
“low.” It appears that there was a deliberate attempt made by the
administration to link al-Qaeda in Iraq in the minds of the American
people and use it as a rationale to go into Iraq.
VICE PRES. CHENEY: Tim, I guess—I don’t—I’m not sure what part you don’t
understand here. In September—or in 1990, the State Department
designated Iraq as a state sponsor of terror. Abu Nidal, famous
terrorist, had sanctuary in, in Baghdad for years. Zarqawi was in
Baghdad after we took Afghanistan and before we went into Iraq. You had
the facility up at Kermal, poisons facility, ran by Ansar Islam, an
affiliate of al-Qaeda. You had the fact that Saddam Hussein, for
example, provided payments to the families of suicide bombers of $25,000
on a regular basis. This was a state sponsor of terror. He had a
relationship with terror groups. No question about it. Nobody denies
that. The evidence we also had at the time was that he had a
relationship with al-Qaeda. And that was George Tenet’s testimony, the
director of the CIA, in front of the Senate Intelligence Committee. We
also have a—had knowledge of the fact that he had produced and used
weapons of mass destruction and we know, as well, that while he did not
have any production under way at the time, that he’s clearly retained
the capability, and the expectation from the experts was as soon as the
sanctions were lifted he’d be back in business again.
Now this was the place where, probably, there was a greater prospect of
a connection between terrorists on the one hand and a
terrorist-sponsoring state and weapons of mass destruction than any
place else. You talk about Iran, North Korea, they’re problems, too, but
they hadn’t been through 12 years of sanctions and resolutions by the
U.N. Security Council and ignored them with impunity.
</quote>

Cheney is so pathetic. He needs to put up some information, or just
shut up about this iraq / al-qaeda linkage.
.
User: "Steven Douglas"

Title: Re: ***** Cheney Lie fo the Day: Saddam Tied to 911 (GOP, The Party of Treason) 11 Sep 2006 10:11:30 AM
Perseid wrote:

After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Fester" <n...@home.com> Spat the
Words

"Danzig" <tyat...@telus.net> wrote in message
news:Qu3Ng.2008$KA6.764@clgrps12...

Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/10/cheney-cites-zarqawi/
Cheney Ignores Senate Intel Report, Cites Zarqawi As Evidence of
Iraq/Al Qaeda Connection
On Friday, the Senate Intelligence Committee released a report that
concluded there was no relationship between Saddam Hussein and Abu
Musab al-Zarqawi. According to the report, "a CIA assessment in
October 2005 concluded that Hussein's government 'did not have a
relationship, harbor, or turn a blind eye toward Zarqawi and his
associates.'" In fact, Hussein tried to capture Zarqawi.
This morning on Meet the Press, Cheney repeatedly cited Zarqawi as the
link between pre-war Iraq and al-Qaeda. When Tim Russert mentioned the
Senate Intelligence Committee report, Cheney said he "hadn't seen it."
Watch it:

you would expect anything else??


This is precisely the kind of BS I would expect from lying ***** stains
like you:
<quote>
MR. RUSSERT: Then why, in the lead-up to the war, was there the constant
linkage between Iraq and al-Qaeda?
VICE PRES. CHENEY: That's a different issue. Now, there's a question of
whether or not al-Qaeda, or whether or not Iraq was involved in 9/11.
There's a separate-apart from that's the issue of whether or not there
was a historic relationship between Iraq and al-Qaeda. The basis for
that is probably best captured in George Tenet's testimony before the
Senate Intel Commission, an open session, where he said specifically
that there was a pattern of relationship that went back at least a
decade between Iraq and al-Qaeda.
MR. RUSSERT: But the president said they were working in concert, giving
the strong suggestion to the American people that they were involved in
September 11th.
VICE PRES. CHENEY: No. There are, there are two totally different
propositions here, and people have consistently tried to confuse them.
And it's important, I think-there's a third proposition, as well, too,
and that is Iraq's traditional position as a strong sponsor of terror.
So you've got Iraq and 9/11, no evidence that there's a connection.
You've got Iraq and al-Qaeda, testimony from the director of CIA that
there was indeed a relationship, Zarqawi in Baghdad, etc. Then the
third... MR. RUSSERT: The committee said that there was no relationship.
In fact... VICE PRES. CHENEY: Well, I haven't seen the report; I haven't
had a chance to read it yet, but the fact is...
MR. RUSSERT: But Mr. Vice President, the bottom line is...
VICE PRES. CHENEY: We know, we know that Zarqawi, running a terrorist
camp in Afghanistan prior to 9/11, after we went in to 9/11, then fled
and went to Baghdad and set up operations in Baghdad in the spring of
'02 and was there from then, basically, until basically the time we
launched into Iraq. MR. RUSSERT: The bottom line is, the rationale given
the American people was that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction and
he could give those weapons of mass destruction to al-Qaeda and we could
have another September 11. And now we read that there is no evidence,
according to the Senate Intelligence Committee, of that relationship.
You've said there's no involvement. The president says there's no
involvement. VICE PRES. CHENEY: No, Tim, no involvement in what respect?
MR. RUSSERT: In September 11, OK. The CIA said, leading up to the war,
that the possibility of Saddam using weapons of mass destruction was
"low." It appears that there was a deliberate attempt made by the
administration to link al-Qaeda in Iraq in the minds of the American
people and use it as a rationale to go into Iraq.
VICE PRES. CHENEY: Tim, I guess-I don't-I'm not sure what part you don't
understand here. In September-or in 1990, the State Department
designated Iraq as a state sponsor of terror. Abu Nidal, famous
terrorist, had sanctuary in, in Baghdad for years. Zarqawi was in
Baghdad after we took Afghanistan and before we went into Iraq. You had
the facility up at Kermal, poisons facility, ran by Ansar Islam, an
affiliate of al-Qaeda. You had the fact that Saddam Hussein, for
example, provided payments to the families of suicide bombers of $25,000
on a regular basis. This was a state sponsor of terror. He had a
relationship with terror groups. No question about it. Nobody denies
that. The evidence we also had at the time was that he had a
relationship with al-Qaeda. And that was George Tenet's testimony, the
director of the CIA, in front of the Senate Intelligence Committee. We
also have a-had knowledge of the fact that he had produced and used
weapons of mass destruction and we know, as well, that while he did not
have any production under way at the time, that he's clearly retained
the capability, and the expectation from the experts was as soon as the
sanctions were lifted he'd be back in business again.
Now this was the place where, probably, there was a greater prospect of
a connection between terrorists on the one hand and a
terrorist-sponsoring state and weapons of mass destruction than any
place else. You talk about Iran, North Korea, they're problems, too, but
they hadn't been through 12 years of sanctions and resolutions by the
U.N. Security Council and ignored them with impunity.
</quote>


Cheney is so pathetic. He needs to put up some information, or just
shut up about this iraq / al-qaeda linkage.

Well, first he could quote this Presidential statement given long
before the start of the Iraq war:
[quoting] But for all our promise, all our opportunity, people in this
room know very well that this is not a time free from peril, especially
as a result of reckless acts of outlaw nations and an unholy axis of
terrorists, drug traffickers and organized international criminals.
We have to defend our future from these predators of the 21st century.
They feed on the free flow of information and technology. They actually
take advantage of the freer movement of people, information and ideas.
And they will be all the more lethal if we allow them to build arsenals
of nuclear, chemical and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver
them. We simply cannot allow that to happen.
There is no more clear example of this threat than Saddam Hussein's
Iraq. His regime threatens the safety of his people, the stability of
his region and the security of all the rest of us. [end quote]
http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/02/17/transcripts/clinton.iraq/
Or he could quote this portion of an indictment written by the
President's Justice Department:
[quoting] Al-Qaeda reached an understanding with the government of Iraq
that al-Qaeda would not work against that government and that on
particular projects, specifically including weapons development,
al-Qaeda would work cooperatively with the government of Iraq. [end
quote]
http://www.fas.org/irp/news/1998/11/98110602_nlt.html
Better still, he could quote the President's wife:
[quoting] In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence
reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and
biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his
nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to
terrorists, including Al Qaeda members ... [end quote]
http://clinton.senate.gov/speeches/iraq_101002.html
.
User: "JayJBee"

Title: Re: ***** Cheney Lie fo the Day: Saddam Tied to 911 (GOP, The Partyof Treason) 11 Sep 2006 02:22:34 PM
Steven Douglas wrote:

Perseid wrote:

After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Fester" <n...@home.com> Spat the
Words

"Danzig" <tyat...@telus.net> wrote in message
news:Qu3Ng.2008$KA6.764@clgrps12...

Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/10/cheney-cites-zarqawi/
Cheney Ignores Senate Intel Report, Cites Zarqawi As Evidence of
Iraq/Al Qaeda Connection
On Friday, the Senate Intelligence Committee released a report that
concluded there was no relationship between Saddam Hussein and Abu
Musab al-Zarqawi. According to the report, "a CIA assessment in
October 2005 concluded that Hussein's government 'did not have a
relationship, harbor, or turn a blind eye toward Zarqawi and his
associates.'" In fact, Hussein tried to capture Zarqawi.
This morning on Meet the Press, Cheney repeatedly cited Zarqawi as the
link between pre-war Iraq and al-Qaeda. When Tim Russert mentioned the
Senate Intelligence Committee report, Cheney said he "hadn't seen it."
Watch it:

you would expect anything else??

This is precisely the kind of BS I would expect from lying ***** stains
like you:
<quote>
MR. RUSSERT: Then why, in the lead-up to the war, was there the constant
linkage between Iraq and al-Qaeda?
VICE PRES. CHENEY: That's a different issue. Now, there's a question of
whether or not al-Qaeda, or whether or not Iraq was involved in 9/11.
There's a separate-apart from that's the issue of whether or not there
was a historic relationship between Iraq and al-Qaeda. The basis for
that is probably best captured in George Tenet's testimony before the
Senate Intel Commission, an open session, where he said specifically
that there was a pattern of relationship that went back at least a
decade between Iraq and al-Qaeda.
MR. RUSSERT: But the president said they were working in concert, giving
the strong suggestion to the American people that they were involved in
September 11th.
VICE PRES. CHENEY: No. There are, there are two totally different
propositions here, and people have consistently tried to confuse them.
And it's important, I think-there's a third proposition, as well, too,
and that is Iraq's traditional position as a strong sponsor of terror.
So you've got Iraq and 9/11, no evidence that there's a connection.
You've got Iraq and al-Qaeda, testimony from the director of CIA that
there was indeed a relationship, Zarqawi in Baghdad, etc. Then the
third... MR. RUSSERT: The committee said that there was no relationship.
In fact... VICE PRES. CHENEY: Well, I haven't seen the report; I haven't
had a chance to read it yet, but the fact is...
MR. RUSSERT: But Mr. Vice President, the bottom line is...
VICE PRES. CHENEY: We know, we know that Zarqawi, running a terrorist
camp in Afghanistan prior to 9/11, after we went in to 9/11, then fled
and went to Baghdad and set up operations in Baghdad in the spring of
'02 and was there from then, basically, until basically the time we
launched into Iraq. MR. RUSSERT: The bottom line is, the rationale given
the American people was that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction and
he could give those weapons of mass destruction to al-Qaeda and we could
have another September 11. And now we read that there is no evidence,
according to the Senate Intelligence Committee, of that relationship.
You've said there's no involvement. The president says there's no
involvement. VICE PRES. CHENEY: No, Tim, no involvement in what respect?
MR. RUSSERT: In September 11, OK. The CIA said, leading up to the war,
that the possibility of Saddam using weapons of mass destruction was
"low." It appears that there was a deliberate attempt made by the
administration to link al-Qaeda in Iraq in the minds of the American
people and use it as a rationale to go into Iraq.
VICE PRES. CHENEY: Tim, I guess-I don't-I'm not sure what part you don't
understand here. In September-or in 1990, the State Department
designated Iraq as a state sponsor of terror. Abu Nidal, famous
terrorist, had sanctuary in, in Baghdad for years. Zarqawi was in
Baghdad after we took Afghanistan and before we went into Iraq. You had
the facility up at Kermal, poisons facility, ran by Ansar Islam, an
affiliate of al-Qaeda. You had the fact that Saddam Hussein, for
example, provided payments to the families of suicide bombers of $25,000
on a regular basis. This was a state sponsor of terror. He had a
relationship with terror groups. No question about it. Nobody denies
that. The evidence we also had at the time was that he had a
relationship with al-Qaeda. And that was George Tenet's testimony, the
director of the CIA, in front of the Senate Intelligence Committee. We
also have a-had knowledge of the fact that he had produced and used
weapons of mass destruction and we know, as well, that while he did not
have any production under way at the time, that he's clearly retained
the capability, and the expectation from the experts was as soon as the
sanctions were lifted he'd be back in business again.
Now this was the place where, probably, there was a greater prospect of
a connection between terrorists on the one hand and a
terrorist-sponsoring state and weapons of mass destruction than any
place else. You talk about Iran, North Korea, they're problems, too, but
they hadn't been through 12 years of sanctions and resolutions by the
U.N. Security Council and ignored them with impunity.
</quote>

Cheney is so pathetic. He needs to put up some information, or just
shut up about this iraq / al-qaeda linkage.


Well, first he could quote this Presidential statement given long
before the start of the Iraq war:

[quoting] But for all our promise, all our opportunity, people in this
room know very well that this is not a time free from peril, especially
as a result of reckless acts of outlaw nations and an unholy axis of
terrorists, drug traffickers and organized international criminals.
We have to defend our future from these predators of the 21st century.

They feed on the free flow of information and technology. They actually
take advantage of the freer movement of people, information and ideas.

And they will be all the more lethal if we allow them to build arsenals
of nuclear, chemical and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver
them. We simply cannot allow that to happen.

There is no more clear example of this threat than Saddam Hussein's
Iraq. His regime threatens the safety of his people, the stability of
his region and the security of all the rest of us. [end quote]

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/02/17/transcripts/clinton.iraq/

Or he could quote this portion of an indictment written by the
President's Justice Department:

[quoting] Al-Qaeda reached an understanding with the government of Iraq
that al-Qaeda would not work against that government and that on
particular projects, specifically including weapons development,
al-Qaeda would work cooperatively with the government of Iraq. [end
quote]

http://www.fas.org/irp/news/1998/11/98110602_nlt.html

Better still, he could quote the President's wife:
[quoting] In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence
reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and
biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his
nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to
terrorists, including Al Qaeda members ... [end quote]

http://clinton.senate.gov/speeches/iraq_101002.html

Ah, yeah...
The vice president could quote the president and his wife...
JayJBee
"Who needs info"
.
User: "Perseid"

Title: Re: ***** Cheney Lie fo the Day: Saddam Tied to 911 (GOP, The Party of Treason) 11 Sep 2006 09:03:46 PM
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, JayJBee <jayjbee@notmail.com>
Spat the Words

Steven Douglas wrote:

Perseid wrote:

After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Fester" <n...@home.com>
Spat the Words

"Danzig" <tyat...@telus.net> wrote in message
news:Qu3Ng.2008$KA6.764@clgrps12...

Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/10/cheney-cites-zarqawi/
Cheney Ignores Senate Intel Report, Cites Zarqawi As Evidence of
Iraq/Al Qaeda Connection
On Friday, the Senate Intelligence Committee released a report that
concluded there was no relationship between Saddam Hussein and Abu
Musab al-Zarqawi. According to the report, "a CIA assessment in
October 2005 concluded that Hussein's government 'did not have a
relationship, harbor, or turn a blind eye toward Zarqawi and his
associates.'" In fact, Hussein tried to capture Zarqawi.
This morning on Meet the Press, Cheney repeatedly cited Zarqawi as
the link between pre-war Iraq and al-Qaeda. When Tim Russert
mentioned the Senate Intelligence Committee report, Cheney said he
"hadn't seen it." Watch it:

you would expect anything else??

This is precisely the kind of BS I would expect from lying *****
stains like you:
<quote>
MR. RUSSERT: Then why, in the lead-up to the war, was there the
constant linkage between Iraq and al-Qaeda?
VICE PRES. CHENEY: That's a different issue. Now, there's a question
of whether or not al-Qaeda, or whether or not Iraq was involved in
9/11. There's a separate-apart from that's the issue of whether or
not there was a historic relationship between Iraq and al-Qaeda. The
basis for that is probably best captured in George Tenet's testimony
before the Senate Intel Commission, an open session, where he said
specifically that there was a pattern of relationship that went back
at least a decade between Iraq and al-Qaeda.
MR. RUSSERT: But the president said they were working in concert,
giving the strong suggestion to the American people that they were
involved in September 11th.
VICE PRES. CHENEY: No. There are, there are two totally different
propositions here, and people have consistently tried to confuse
them. And it's important, I think-there's a third proposition, as
well, too, and that is Iraq's traditional position as a strong
sponsor of terror. So you've got Iraq and 9/11, no evidence that
there's a connection. You've got Iraq and al-Qaeda, testimony from
the director of CIA that there was indeed a relationship, Zarqawi in
Baghdad, etc. Then the third... MR. RUSSERT: The committee said that
there was no relationship. In fact... VICE PRES. CHENEY: Well, I
haven't seen the report; I haven't had a chance to read it yet, but
the fact is... MR. RUSSERT: But Mr. Vice President, the bottom line
is... VICE PRES. CHENEY: We know, we know that Zarqawi, running a
terrorist camp in Afghanistan prior to 9/11, after we went in to
9/11, then fled and went to Baghdad and set up operations in Baghdad
in the spring of '02 and was there from then, basically, until
basically the time we launched into Iraq. MR. RUSSERT: The bottom
line is, the rationale given the American people was that Saddam had
weapons of mass destruction and he could give those weapons of mass
destruction to al-Qaeda and we could have another September 11. And
now we read that there is no evidence, according to the Senate
Intelligence Committee, of that relationship. You've said there's no
involvement. The president says there's no involvement. VICE PRES.
CHENEY: No, Tim, no involvement in what respect? MR. RUSSERT: In
September 11, OK. The CIA said, leading up to the war, that the
possibility of Saddam using weapons of mass destruction was "low." It
appears that there was a deliberate attempt made by the
administration to link al-Q