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** Christian Wife Murders Minister Husband <= American Family Values ** |
April 9, 2007
Trial to Begin in Killing of Minister in Tennessee
By THEO EMERY
NASHVILLE, April 8 - Just over a year ago, Wilburn Ashe stood outside his
minister's home in Selmer in southwest Tennessee. He could see the lights
inside, but the door was locked and his knocks went unanswered.
Mr. Ashe returned to church for Bible study without the minister, Matthew
Winkler. Later, four other church members went to the house and let
themselves in with a key. They found Mr. Winkler dead, sprawled in a bedroom
with a shotgun wound, and no sign of his wife, Mary, or their three
daughters.
The discovery was only the first shock in a killing that thrust Selmer into
headlines around the country. After the Alabama police found Mary Winkler
and the children hundreds of miles away, she stunned the community again
with the admission that she had shot her husband and fled.
On Monday, after a year of speculation, jury selection is to begin in a
McNairy County courthouse where Ms. Winkler, 33, will face trial on charges
of first-degree murder.
The killing left members of Mr. Winkler's church, the Fourth Street Church
of Christ, searching for answers and, at times, seeking respite from the
attention on their town.
Over the last year, some details have emerged from court and news reports.
But Mr. Ashe, 71, said the killing remained as much a mystery as it was the
night he knocked on the Winklers' door.
"We know there are three little girls that don't have a daddy, and for all
practical purposes at the present time, they don't have a mama," he said.
"We know those things, and we know that Mary has said she did it. That's all
I know. And all of it is sad."
The Winklers arrived in Selmer in 2005. Mr. Winkler, a minister's son, was
energetic and lively, and the congregation grew. Church members said his
wife seemed doting and domestic.
The home was apparently not as tranquil as it appeared. Clark Freeman, Ms.
Winkler's father, said in a televised interview in November that he
suspected abuse, and that his daughter covered "terrible bruises" with
makeup. Mr. Freeman, reached by phone last week, declined to comment.
There may also have been strains over finances. Ms. Winkler's lawyers have
said that the couple were caught up in an overseas swindle. Ms. Winkler had
also deposited worthless overseas checks in a local bank, prosecutors said.
When Mr. Winkler's body was found, friends suspected a break-in and a
kidnapping. Then, a day later, the police found the family van in Orange
Beach, Ala. According to the police, Ms. Winkler confessed, saying she had
"snapped" after arguing with her husband over money.
The killing stirred a frenzy of news coverage as reporters and television
crews descended on Selmer.
"You'd have to be almost under a rock not to have known about this, with as
much attention as it got last year," Mayor David Robinson said.
In days after, the closeness of the church members became apparent. Ms.
Winkler apologized to the congregation in a note, and some members visited
her in jail. Pam Killingsworth went almost every Sunday until Ms. Winkler
made bail in August, taking along photos and community updates.
Even Ms. Winkler's in-laws, Dan and Diane Winkler, appeared forgiving: Dan
stood up in his church in Huntingdon to say they loved their
daughter-in-law, according to a church newspaper account.
Dan and Diane Winkler - who have custody of the three girls, Patricia, 9;
Mary Alice, 7; and Breanna, 2 - have since filed a $2 million wrongful death
suit against Ms. Winkler. They did not return calls seeking comment.
After Ms. Winkler posted $750,000 bail, she went to McMinnville, Tenn.,
about 65 miles southeast of Nashville, to live with friends and work at a
dry cleaner. She made headlines again when a television station broadcast
photographs of her taken on New Year's Eve, smoking at a restaurant with a
beer in front of her.
Ms. Killingsworth, who taught music to the Winkler children, said that she
had tried to put the case behind her, but that it had proved hard to do as
the trial drew near.
"It's just something you don't get over in a year's time," she said. "I don't
even know if you'll get over it in a lifetime
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| User: "Uncle Clover" |
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| Title: Re: ** Christian Wife Murders Minister Husband <= American Family Values ** |
10 Apr 2007 06:29:36 AM |
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She had recently been quoted as saying he criticized her too much and
that's why she did it. I can't imagine a Christian preacher
criticizing anyone, can you? I mean really, what some folks won't say
about those fine, decent, tolerant, non-judgmental and loving men of
the cloth...
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L8r,
Uncle Clover
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Every birth carries within
it the seed of its own
demise
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Narrow minds
breed thick skulls.
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"Leak now, or forever hold
your pee..."
- Some Smartass
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| User: "Kris Baker" |
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| Title: Re: ** Christian Wife Murders Minister Husband <= American Family Values ** |
10 Apr 2007 07:11:33 AM |
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"Uncle Clover" <UncleClover@NowhereNow.com> wrote in message
news:o6tm13lqr2ipqlu6k4ahklrlid1j50l67c@4ax.com...
She had recently been quoted as saying he criticized her too much and
that's why she did it. I can't imagine a Christian preacher
criticizing anyone, can you? I mean really, what some folks won't say
about those fine, decent, tolerant, non-judgmental and loving men of
the cloth...
--
L8r,
Uncle Clover
Let me tell you a story.
We were in St Michael's MD last weekend, at The Crab Claw. While we picked
at a tableful of blue crabs, we noticed three people at the next table.
The rather large man was spouting Christianity and preaching to others at
the table. (That's why we noticed them - they were loud, obnoxiously so.)
The waitress filled their ice teas several times, and brought several
baskets of bread while they looked over the menu. After sitting there for
over half an hour, they ordered. When the food came, the Christian sent
it back saying "We're already full from all the bread and iced tea....and it
took too long to get the food." (It didn't take long at all, they took too
long to order.) The manager came over, and after a short discussion, the
three Christians walked out without paying for their meal OR without tipping
the waitress who had taken care of them.
If that's today's Christianity, I guess I'm officially a heathen.
My husband said that they looked like practiced con artists, who did that
everywhere they went. I hope we don't see them again.
Kris
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| User: "suneejan" |
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| Title: Re: ** Christian Wife Murders Minister Husband <= American Family Values ** |
10 Apr 2007 08:17:59 AM |
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On Apr 10, 4:11=EF=BF=BDam, "Kris Baker" <kris.ba...@prodigyyy.net> wrote:
"Uncle Clover" <UncleClo...@NowhereNow.com> wrote in message
news:o6tm13lqr2ipqlu6k4ahklrlid1j50l67c@4ax.com...
She had recently been quoted as saying he criticized her too much and
that's why she did it. =A0I can't imagine a Christian preacher
criticizing anyone, can you? =A0I mean really, what some folks won't say
about those fine, decent, tolerant, non-judgmental and loving men of
the cloth...
--
L8r,
Uncle Clover
Let me tell you a story.
We were in St Michael's MD last weekend, at The Crab Claw. =A0While we pi=
cked
at a tableful of blue crabs, we noticed three people at the next table.
The rather large man was spouting Christianity and preaching to others at
the table. =A0(That's why we noticed them - they were loud, obnoxiously s=
o=2E)
The waitress filled their ice teas several times, and brought several
baskets of bread while they looked over the menu. =A0 After sitting there=
for
over half an hour, they ordered. =A0 =A0When the food came, the Christian=
sent
it back saying "We're already full from all the bread and iced tea....and=
it
took too long to get the food." =A0(It didn't take long at all, they took=
too
long to order.) =A0 The manager came over, and after a short discussion, =
the
three Christians walked out without paying for their meal OR without tipp=
ing
the waitress who had taken care of them.
If that's today's Christianity, I guess I'm officially a heathen.
My husband said that they looked like practiced con artists, who did that
everywhere they went. =A0 I hope we don't see them again.
Kris
Kris, That's awfull what those three people did. They should be
ashamed of themselves. The Lord will not be mocked and they will pay
for this later. It is people like this that gives true Christians a
bad name. True Christians has Christ in their hearts. We are not
perfect but are forgiven . We true Christian should have concern, and
deal with life's matters honestly.
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c" |
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| Title: Re: ** Christian Wife Murders Minister Husband <= American Family Values ** |
10 Apr 2007 09:39:42 AM |
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On 10 Apr 2007 06:17:59 -0700, "suneejan" <suneejan2@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 10, 4:11?am, "Kris Baker" <kris.ba...@prodigyyy.net> wrote:
"Uncle Clover" <UncleClo...@NowhereNow.com> wrote in message
news:o6tm13lqr2ipqlu6k4ahklrlid1j50l67c@4ax.com...
She had recently been quoted as saying he criticized her too much and
that's why she did it. can't imagine a Christian preacher
criticizing anyone, can you? mean really, what some folks won't say
about those fine, decent, tolerant, non-judgmental and loving men of
the cloth...
--
L8r,
Uncle Clover
Let me tell you a story.
We were in St Michael's MD last weekend, at The Crab Claw. hile we picked
at a tableful of blue crabs, we noticed three people at the next table.
The rather large man was spouting Christianity and preaching to others at
the table. (That's why we noticed them - they were loud, obnoxiously so.)
The waitress filled their ice teas several times, and brought several
baskets of bread while they looked over the menu. After sitting there for
over half an hour, they ordered. hen the food came, the Christian sent
it back saying "We're already full from all the bread and iced tea....and it
took too long to get the food." (It didn't take long at all, they took too
long to order.) The manager came over, and after a short discussion, the
three Christians walked out without paying for their meal OR without tipping
the waitress who had taken care of them.
If that's today's Christianity, I guess I'm officially a heathen.
My husband said that they looked like practiced con artists, who did that
everywhere they went. I hope we don't see them again.
Kris
Kris, That's awfull what those three people did. They should be
ashamed of themselves. The Lord will not be mocked and they will pay
for this later. It is people like this that gives true Christians a
bad name. True Christians has Christ in their hearts. We are not
perfect but are forgiven . We true Christian should have concern, and
deal with life's matters honestly.
I don't doubt for a second that there exists Christians who are a)
sincere and b) not hypocrites.
I just don't see them with enough regularity to convince me that
Christianity is a better system of morality than atheism.
--
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
The Bush 'balanced' budget: -3 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -3286 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
newsgroups Yang promises not to revenge post
in response to Sound-of-Trumpet's *****:
rec.art.scifi.written
sci.archaeology
soc.history.what-if
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: ** Christian Wife Murders Minister Husband <= American Family Values ** |
10 Apr 2007 12:04:06 PM |
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"Uncle Clover" <UncleClover@NowhereNow.com> wrote in message
news:o6tm13lqr2ipqlu6k4ahklrlid1j50l67c@4ax.com...
She had recently been quoted as saying he criticized her too much and
that's why she did it. I can't imagine a Christian preacher
criticizing anyone, can you? I mean really, what some folks won't say
about those fine, decent, tolerant, non-judgmental and loving men of
the cloth...
Well, with all due respect, my atheist mother used to criticize the ***** out
of me ;)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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