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~~ Federal Judge kicks George Bu$h in the balls ... again ! <= and ***** you too Gonzales! ~~ |
Federal Judge Rules Unconstitutional Parts of Patriot Act
Mark Hamblett
New York Law Journal
September 7, 2007
Congress' attempt to fix the problems with a key aspect of the USA PATRIOT Act
has failed to satisfy a Manhattan federal judge.
Southern District of New York Judge Victor Marrero Thursday ruled
unconstitutional a provision authorizing the FBI to issue a form of
administrative subpoena called a National Security Letter (NSL), finding that an
amended gag order on recipients of the letters still violated the First
Amendment.
The judge also found that provisions allowing for judicial review for those who
refuse to comply with the letters or challenge the secrecy provision was
inadequate and violated the separation of powers.
Finally, Marrero concluded that the offending portions of the statute, including
the gag rule, could not be severed from the whole.
It was the second time that Marrero had rejected the gag order on Internet
service providers and others who receive the letters from the FBI under 18
U.S.C. §2709.
And it was another blow to FBI officials who consider the letters "indispensable
investigative tools" for counterterrorism and counterintelligence
investigations.
Marrero's 103-page opinion in Doe v. Gonzales, 04 Civ. 2614, comes three years
after he first found the statute unconstitutional on First and Fourth Amendment
grounds in Doe v. Ashcroft, 334 F. Supp. 2d 471. He stayed his ruling until the
case could be reviewed by the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, meaning that
the FBI could continue to issue the letters.
The 2nd Circuit held off ruling on Marrero's opinion because Congress had
amended the law. It remanded the case to Marrero, who held a hearing on Aug. 15.
National security letters allow FBI agents in counterterrorism and
counterintelligence investigations to secretly gather phone, bank and Internet
records without a court order or a grand jury subpoena.
Thursday, Marrero found that "several aspects of the revised nondisclosure
provision of the NSL statute (18 U.S.C. §2709) violate the First Amendment and
the principle of separation of powers."
Again, Marrero stayed enforcement of his ruling to enable the government to
appeal to the 2nd Circuit and to make any motion before him or the circuit for
whatever relief was needed to "maintain the confidentiality of any information
implicated by the court's ruling."
Attorneys for the American Civil Liberties Union, who brought the case on behalf
of a still-unnamed Internet service provider, were elated by the ruling.
At a press conference, ACLU Executive Director Anthony Romero said the problem
with the law is that "it flips" traditional First Amendment requirements by
putting "the burden on NSL recipients" to go to court and prove a violation."
"The takeaway from this is that the FBI cannot be invested with the authority to
determine, by itself, without meaningful judicial oversight, which NSL
recipients should be allowed to speak," he said.
A spokeswoman for U.S. Attorney Michael Garcia said, "We are reviewing the
decision and considering our appellate options."
CONGRESSIONAL CHANGES
While the government's appeal of Marrero's 2004 opinion was pending, Congress
changed the law to remove a blanket prohibition on disclosing receipt of the
letter. The new §2709(c) called for a case-by-case determination by the FBI that
disclosure "may result" in danger to national security; interfere with a
criminal, counterintelligence or counterterrorism investigation; interfere with
diplomatic relations; or present a danger to the life or safety of any person.
Under the provision, once the FBI makes a certification, it is treated as
conclusive, absent a court finding of bad faith.
And unlike the original provision, §3511 specifically provides for judicial
review of the request, including the potential to challenge the non-disclosure
requirement.
At the hearing in August, Assistant U.S. Attorneys Jeffrey Oestericher and
Benjamin Torrance said that the concerns expressed by Marrero in his 2004 ruling
had been addressed by Congress.
Oestericher told the court that recipients of the letters were now in a position
to challenge them "at the outset, over time, and repeatedly over time at
one-year intervals." He also argued the law merely prevents people from
disclosing what they learned in the course of a government investigation.
But Jameel Jaffer, an ACLU attorney, argued that the law remained a prior
restraint on First Amendment speech and an unconstitutional move by Congress to
impose judicial deference to the executive branch.
Jaffer called the new judicial review provisions "purely cosmetic" and said the
law "invests executive officers with unbridled power to suppress speech."
He again charged indiscriminate use, and misuse, of the letters by the FBI, as
documented by a report by the Justice Department's Office of the Inspector
General.
The FBI issued 8,500 national security letter requests in 2000, but in the wake
of the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks the number increased dramatically, peaking
at 56,000 in 2004.
'PROFOUND CONCERNS'
Thursday, Marrero said the national security letter, while a valuable
surveillance tool, also "poses profound concerns to our society."
"Through the use of NSLs, the government can unmask the identity of Internet
users engaged in anonymous speech in online discussions," he said. "It can
obtain an itemized list of all of the emails sent and received by the target of
the NSL, and it can then seek information on individuals communicating with that
person. It may even be able to discover the websites an individual has visited
and queries submitted to search engines."
Even taking into account the "unique latitude and added flexibility national
security needs demand," he said, "the government must either affirmatively
terminate the nondisclosure requirement or bear the burden of justifying to a
court why continued secrecy is necessary within a reasonable time" of issuing
the letter.
And "in many ways most troubling" he said, the standard of review applied to a
challenge to a letter "offends the fundamental constitutional principles of
checks and balances and separation of powers."
EXACTING LEVEL OF REVIEW
Key to the judge's First Amendment analysis was his finding that the provision
is a prior restraint and content-based restriction, which subjects it to the
exacting "strict scrutiny" level of review.
And under strict scrutiny, he said, the process is "constitutionally deficient
under the First Amendment in several respects."
His solution was to allow the FBI to impose the gag order for a limited period
of time prior to judicial review, an approach, he said, that "balances the
strong First Amendment concerns at issue with the FBI's need to act quickly in
conducting counterterrorism investigations."
Marrero also harkened back to the internment of Japanese Americans during World
War II, and other examples, to outline the dangers that arise when the judiciary
abdicates its role of reviewing acts of Congress and the wielding of executive
power.
"Viewed from the standpoint of the many citizens who lost essential rights as a
result of such expansive exercises of governmental power unchecked by judicial
rulings appropriate to the occasion, the only thing left of the judiciary's
function for those Americans in that experience was a symbolic act: to sing a
requiem and lower the flag on the Bill of Rights," he said.
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Federal Judge Rules Unconstitutional Parts of Patriot Act
Mark Hamblett
New York Law Journal
September 7, 2007
Congress' attempt to fix the problems with a key aspect of the USA PATRIOT Act
has failed to satisfy a Manhattan federal judge.
Southern District of New York Judge Victor Marrero Thursday ruled
unconstitutional a provision authorizing the FBI to issue a form of
administrative subpoena called a National Security Letter (NSL), finding that
an amended gag order on recipients of the letters still violated the First
Amendment.
The judge also found that provisions allowing for judicial review for those
who refuse to comply with the letters or challenge the secrecy provision was
inadequate and violated the separation of powers.
Finally, Marrero concluded that the offending portions of the statute,
including the gag rule, could not be severed from the whole.
It was the second time that Marrero had rejected the gag order on Internet
service providers and others who receive the letters from the FBI under 18
U.S.C. §2709.
And it was another blow to FBI officials who consider the letters
"indispensable investigative tools" for counterterrorism and
counterintelligence investigations.
Marrero's 103-page opinion in Doe v. Gonzales, 04 Civ. 2614, comes three years
after he first found the statute unconstitutional on First and Fourth
Amendment grounds in Doe v. Ashcroft, 334 F. Supp. 2d 471. He stayed his
ruling until the case could be reviewed by the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of
Appeals, meaning that the FBI could continue to issue the letters.
The 2nd Circuit held off ruling on Marrero's opinion because Congress had
amended the law. It remanded the case to Marrero, who held a hearing on Aug.
15.
National security letters allow FBI agents in counterterrorism and
counterintelligence investigations to secretly gather phone, bank and Internet
records without a court order or a grand jury subpoena.
Thursday, Marrero found that "several aspects of the revised nondisclosure
provision of the NSL statute (18 U.S.C. §2709) violate the First Amendment and
the principle of separation of powers."
Again, Marrero stayed enforcement of his ruling to enable the government to
appeal to the 2nd Circuit and to make any motion before him or the circuit for
whatever relief was needed to "maintain the confidentiality of any information
implicated by the court's ruling."
Attorneys for the American Civil Liberties Union, who brought the case on
behalf of a still-unnamed Internet service provider, were elated by the
ruling.
At a press conference, ACLU Executive Director Anthony Romero said the problem
with the law is that "it flips" traditional First Amendment requirements by
putting "the burden on NSL recipients" to go to court and prove a violation."
"The takeaway from this is that the FBI cannot be invested with the authority
to determine, by itself, without meaningful judicial oversight, which NSL
recipients should be allowed to speak," he said.
A spokeswoman for U.S. Attorney Michael Garcia said, "We are reviewing the
decision and considering our appellate options."
CONGRESSIONAL CHANGES
While the government's appeal of Marrero's 2004 opinion was pending, Congress
changed the law to remove a blanket prohibition on disclosing receipt of the
letter. The new §2709(c) called for a case-by-case determination by the FBI
that disclosure "may result" in danger to national security; interfere with a
criminal, counterintelligence or counterterrorism investigation; interfere
with diplomatic relations; or present a danger to the life or safety of any
person.
Under the provision, once the FBI makes a certification, it is treated as
conclusive, absent a court finding of bad faith.
And unlike the original provision, §3511 specifically provides for judicial
review of the request, including the potential to challenge the non-disclosure
requirement.
At the hearing in August, Assistant U.S. Attorneys Jeffrey Oestericher and
Benjamin Torrance said that the concerns expressed by Marrero in his 2004
ruling had been addressed by Congress.
Oestericher told the court that recipients of the letters were now in a
position to challenge them "at the outset, over time, and repeatedly over time
at one-year intervals." He also argued the law merely prevents people from
disclosing what they learned in the course of a government investigation.
But Jameel Jaffer, an ACLU attorney, argued that the law remained a prior
restraint on First Amendment speech and an unconstitutional move by Congress
to impose judicial deference to the executive branch.
Jaffer called the new judicial review provisions "purely cosmetic" and said
the law "invests executive officers with unbridled power to suppress speech."
He again charged indiscriminate use, and misuse, of the letters by the FBI, as
documented by a report by the Justice Department's Office of the Inspector
General.
The FBI issued 8,500 national security letter requests in 2000, but in the
wake of the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks the number increased dramatically,
peaking at 56,000 in 2004.
'PROFOUND CONCERNS'
Thursday, Marrero said the national security letter, while a valuable
surveillance tool, also "poses profound concerns to our society."
"Through the use of NSLs, the government can unmask the identity of Internet
users engaged in anonymous speech in online discussions," he said. "It can
obtain an itemized list of all of the emails sent and received by the target
of the NSL, and it can then seek information on individuals communicating with
that person. It may even be able to discover the websites an individual has
visited and queries submitted to search engines."
Even taking into account the "unique latitude and added flexibility national
security needs demand," he said, "the government must either affirmatively
terminate the nondisclosure requirement or bear the burden of justifying to a
court why continued secrecy is necessary within a reasonable time" of issuing
the letter.
And "in many ways most troubling" he said, the standard of review applied to a
challenge to a letter "offends the fundamental constitutional principles of
checks and balances and separation of powers."
EXACTING LEVEL OF REVIEW
Key to the judge's First Amendment analysis was his finding that the provision
is a prior restraint and content-based restriction, which subjects it to the
exacting "strict scrutiny" level of review.
And under strict scrutiny, he said, the process is "constitutionally deficient
under the First Amendment in several respects."
His solution was to allow the FBI to impose the gag order for a limited period
of time prior to judicial review, an approach, he said, that "balances the
strong First Amendment concerns at issue with the FBI's need to act quickly in
conducting counterterrorism investigations."
Marrero also harkened back to the internment of Japanese Americans during
World War II, and other examples, to outline the dangers that arise when the
judiciary abdicates its role of reviewing acts of Congress and the wielding of
executive power.
"Viewed from the standpoint of the many citizens who lost essential rights as
a result of such expansive exercises of governmental power unchecked by
judicial rulings appropriate to the occasion, the only thing left of the
judiciary's function for those Americans in that experience was a symbolic
act: to sing a requiem and lower the flag on the Bill of Rights," he said.
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Federal appeals court rules that Guantanamo inmates cannot contest detention
in U.S. court
The Associated Press
Tuesday, February 20, 2007
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/02/20/america/NA-GEN-US-Detainees-Lawsuits.php
WASHINGTON: Guantanamo Bay detainees may not challenge their detention in
U.S. courts, a federal appeals court said Tuesday, a ruling that upholds a
crucial provision of a law at the center of President George W. Bush's
campaign against terror.
The U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit ruled 2-1
that civilian courts no longer have the authority to consider whether the
U.S. military is holding foreigners illegally at the Guantanamo naval base
in Cuba.
Barring detainees from the U.S. court system was a primary provision in the
Military Commissions Act, which Bush pushed through Congress last year to
set up a system to prosecute terror suspects.
The ruling is all but certain to be appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court,
which last year struck down the Bush administration's original plan for
trying detainees before military commissions.
The Military Commissions Act was crafted in response to that decision, and
Bush described it as a necessary tool for bringing terror suspects to
justice.
Civil libertarians and leading Democrats decried the law as unconstitutional
and a violation of American values. The law allows the government to detain
indefinitely foreigners who have been designed as "enemy combatants" and
authorizes the CIA to use aggressive but undefined interrogation tactics.
The most criticized provision of the law was the one stripping U.S. courts
of the authority to hear arguments from detainees who contended they were
being held illegally.
Attorneys argued that the detainees are not covered by that provision, and
the law is unconstitutional.
"The arguments are creative but not cogent. To accept them would be to defy
the will of Congress," Judge A. Raymond Randolph wrote.
U.S. citizens and foreigners being held within the United States normally
have the right to contest their detention before a judge. The Justice
Department said foreign enemy combatants are not protected by the
Constitution.
Randolph and Judge David B. Sentelle ordered that the hundreds of cases
pending in the lower courts be dismissed.
Judge Judith W. Rogers dissented, saying the cases should continue.
"District courts are well able to adjust these proceedings in light of the
government's significant interests in guarding national security," Rogers
wrote.
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07 Sep 2007 09:40:37 AM |
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Hillary Clinton's Fugitive Criminal Friends wrote:
Federal appeals court rules that Guantanamo inmates cannot contest
detention in U.S. court
No! No! Don't look over there! Look over here where I'm jumping up and down
and waving my hands!
Sorry sporto, we're not as stupid as your typical Republican. Jesus, how do
you guys get out of bed without breaking your neck or something?
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"Geoff" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:jrSdnZqVs6B5_3zbnZ2dnUVZ_qiinZ2d@giganews.com...
WASHINGTON -
Court Sides With Bush Administration on Wiretapping Internet Phone Calls
Friday, June 09, 2006
appeals court Friday sided with the Bush administration over rules that
make it easier for police and the FBI to wiretap Internet phone calls.
In a 2-1 ruling, the court said the Federal Communications Commission was
correct when it decided that providers of Internet phone service and
broadband services have obligations similar to those of telephone companies.
The FCC was responding to Justice Department complaints that companies must
ensure their equipment using new technologies can accommodate police
wiretaps under the 1994 Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act,
known as CALEA.
"We cannot set aside the commission's reasonable interpretation of the act
in favor of an alternatively plausible or an even better one," wrote appeals
court judge David Sentelle.
Judge Harry Edwards disagreed, saying that CALEA contains an exemption for
information services and that the FCC "has altogether gutted" it.
In determining that broadband Internet providers are subject to the law just
as telecommunications carriers are, the FCC "apparently forgot to read the
words of the statute," Edwards wrote in dissent.
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07 Sep 2007 02:36:32 PM |
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Hillary Clinton's Fugitive Criminal Friends wrote:
"Geoff" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:jrSdnZqVs6B5_3zbnZ2dnUVZ_qiinZ2d@giganews.com...
WASHINGTON -
Court Sides With Bush Administration on Wiretapping Internet Phone
Calls Friday, June 09, 2006
No! No! Don't look over there! Look over here where I'm jumping up and down
and waving my hands!
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07 Sep 2007 04:57:33 PM |
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"Geoff" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:la-dnUI2d6XdNXzbnZ2dnUVZ_tyknZ2d@giganews.com...
Hillary Clinton's Fugitive Criminal Friends wrote:
"Geoff" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:jrSdnZqVs6B5_3zbnZ2dnUVZ_qiinZ2d@giganews.com...
WASHINGTON -
Court Sides With Bush Administration on Wiretapping Internet Phone
Calls Friday, June 09, 2006
No! No! Don't look over there! Look over here where wanking my penis up
and down
and waving herpes covereda *****>
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Sick *****
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07 Sep 2007 06:37:57 PM |
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Hillary Clinton's Fugitive Criminal Friends wrote:
"Geoff" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:la-dnUI2d6XdNXzbnZ2dnUVZ_tyknZ2d@giganews.com...
Hillary Clinton's Fugitive Criminal Friends wrote:
"Geoff" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:jrSdnZqVs6B5_3zbnZ2dnUVZ_qiinZ2d@giganews.com...
WASHINGTON -
Court Sides With Bush Administration on Wiretapping Internet Phone
Calls Friday, June 09, 2006
No! No! Don't look over there! Look over here where wanking my penis
up and down
and waving herpes covereda *****>
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Sick *****
Now you know the Republican MO.
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07 Sep 2007 07:21:46 PM |
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On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 17:57:33 -0400, "Hillary Clinton's Fugitive
Criminal Friends"
<http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8RFDRS80&show_article=1>
wrote:
"Geoff" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:la-dnUI2d6XdNXzbnZ2dnUVZ_tyknZ2d@giganews.com...
Hillary Clinton's Fugitive Criminal Friends wrote:
"Geoff" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:jrSdnZqVs6B5_3zbnZ2dnUVZ_qiinZ2d@giganews.com...
WASHINGTON -
Court Sides With Bush Administration on Wiretapping Internet Phone
Calls Friday, June 09, 2006
No! No! Don't look over there! Look over here where wanking my penis up
and down
and waving herpes covereda *****>
=====================
Sick *****
And herpes is not curable.
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| User: "P.Henry" |
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07 Sep 2007 06:56:25 AM |
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On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 07:52:50 -0400,
Why are you posting articles that are over 6 months old?
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07 Sep 2007 09:09:08 AM |
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"P.Henry" <P.Henery@revolution.org> wrote in message
news:1is68yy5i5upd$.1suh34pkjsctu$.dlg@40tude.net...
On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 07:52:50 -0400,
Why are you posting articles that are over 6 months old?
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Still pissed that your terrorist briothers in Gitmo are not getting an ACLU
Loy Ya i see.
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| User: "P.Henry" |
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07 Sep 2007 10:40:53 AM |
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On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 10:09:08 -0400,
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8RFDRS80&show_article=1 wrote:
"P.Henry" <P.Henery@revolution.org> wrote in message
news:1is68yy5i5upd$.1suh34pkjsctu$.dlg@40tude.net...
On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 07:52:50 -0400,
Why are you posting articles that are over 6 months old?
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Still pissed that your terrorist briothers in Gitmo are not getting an ACLU
Loy Ya i see.
Why are you posting articles that are over 6 months old?
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07 Sep 2007 01:17:08 PM |
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"P.Henry" <P.Henery@revolution.org> wrote in message
news:11bn7u662ea3o.ntobxlz75lqv.dlg@40tude.net...
On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 10:09:08 -0400,
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8RFDRS80&show_article=1 wrote:
"P.Henry" <P.Henery@revolution.org> wrote in message
news:1is68yy5i5upd$.1suh34pkjsctu$.dlg@40tude.net...
On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 07:52:50 -0400,
Why are you posting articles that are over 6 months old?
=============
Still pissed that your terrorist briothers in Gitmo are not getting an
ACLU
Loy Ya i see.
Why are you posting articles that are over 6 months old?
===============
Why do you keep talking about Bush
's 30 year old guard stories?
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07 Sep 2007 10:33:03 AM |
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On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 10:09:08 -0400, "Hillary Clinton's Fugitive
Criminal Friends"
<http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8RFDRS80&show_article=1>
wrote:
"P.Henry" <P.Henery@revolution.org> wrote in message
news:1is68yy5i5upd$.1suh34pkjsctu$.dlg@40tude.net...
On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 07:52:50 -0400,
Why are you posting articles that are over 6 months old?
=============
Still pissed that your terrorist briothers in Gitmo are not getting an ACLU
Loy Ya i see.
Still pissed that we are probably going to have another Clinton in the
White House?
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07 Sep 2007 10:37:04 AM |
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"Matt Silberstein" <matts2removethis@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:nor2e314ats10smcios6879vti8hfqo4eb@4ax.com...
On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 10:09:08 -0400, "Hillary Clinton's Fugitive
Criminal Friends"
<http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8RFDRS80&show_article=1>
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"P.Henry" <P.Henery@revolution.org> wrote in message
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On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 07:52:50 -0400,
Why are you posting articles that are over 6 months old?
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Still pissed that your terrorist briothers in Gitmo are not getting an
ACLU
Loy Ya i see.
Still pissed that we are probably going to have another Clinton in the
White House?
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Probably ? gee you dont sound very confident now do you ? Perhaps the
Dukakis syndrome has slapped you with reality again.
Dukakis, Once Burned, Refuses to Be Optimistic About 2008
Dukakis Holds 17 point Lead over Bush in Polls
It was around this very moment 20 years ago, the summer when Mr. Dukakis,
then the 53-year-old governor of Massachusetts, emerged at the head of a
crowded Democratic presidential pack & opened a 17-point lead over Vice
President George H.W. Bush in the polls.
http://www.observer.com/node/57075
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07 Sep 2007 11:22:40 AM |
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On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 11:37:04 -0400, "Hillary Clinton's Fugitive
Criminal Friends"
<http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8RFDRS80&show_article=1>
wrote:
"Matt Silberstein" <matts2removethis@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 10:09:08 -0400, "Hillary Clinton's Fugitive
Criminal Friends"
<http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8RFDRS80&show_article=1>
wrote:
"P.Henry" <P.Henery@revolution.org> wrote in message
news:1is68yy5i5upd$.1suh34pkjsctu$.dlg@40tude.net...
On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 07:52:50 -0400,
Why are you posting articles that are over 6 months old?
=============
Still pissed that your terrorist briothers in Gitmo are not getting an
ACLU
Loy Ya i see.
Still pissed that we are probably going to have another Clinton in the
White House?
===============
Probably ? gee you dont sound very confident now do you ? Perhaps the
Dukakis syndrome has slapped you with reality again.
Probably means more likely than not. I admit that there is a chance
that Obama or Edwards might well get the nomination.
Dukakis, Once Burned, Refuses to Be Optimistic About 2008
Dukakis Holds 17 point Lead over Bush in Polls
It was around this very moment 20 years ago, the summer when Mr. Dukakis,
then the 53-year-old governor of Massachusetts, emerged at the head of a
crowded Democratic presidential pack & opened a 17-point lead over Vice
President George H.W. Bush in the polls.
http://www.observer.com/node/57075
Are you willing to put money on this? Which Republican do you think
has a chance? The dishonest ignorant fascist Giuliani? The
flip-flopper Romney? Or the Washington insider Thompson?
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07 Sep 2007 11:44:30 AM |
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"Matt Silberstein" <matts2removethis@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 11:37:04 -0400, "Hillary Clinton's Fugitive
Criminal Friends"
<http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8RFDRS80&show_article=1>
wrote:
"Matt Silberstein" <matts2removethis@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 10:09:08 -0400, "Hillary Clinton's Fugitive
Criminal Friends"
<http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8RFDRS80&show_article=1>
wrote:
"P.Henry" <P.Henery@revolution.org> wrote in message
news:1is68yy5i5upd$.1suh34pkjsctu$.dlg@40tude.net...
On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 07:52:50 -0400,
Why are you posting articles that are over 6 months old?
=============
Still pissed that your terrorist briothers in Gitmo are not getting an
ACLU
Loy Ya i see.
Still pissed that we are probably going to have another Clinton in the
White House?
===============
Probably ? gee you dont sound very confident now do you ? Perhaps the
Dukakis syndrome has slapped you with reality again.
Probably means more likely than not. I admit that there is a chance
that Obama or Edwards might well get the nomination.
Dukakis, Once Burned, Refuses to Be Optimistic About 2008
Dukakis Holds 17 point Lead over Bush in Polls
It was around this very moment 20 years ago, the summer when Mr. Dukakis,
then the 53-year-old governor of Massachusetts, emerged at the head of a
crowded Democratic presidential pack & opened a 17-point lead over Vice
President George H.W. Bush in the polls.
http://www.observer.com/node/57075
Are you willing to put money on this? Which Republican do you think
has a chance?
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The one the Libmaggots fear & attack the most . Right now it's a tie between
Romney & Giuliani.
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07 Sep 2007 12:06:40 PM |
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On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 12:44:30 -0400, "Hillary Clinton's Fugitive
Criminal Friends"
<http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8RFDRS80&show_article=1>
wrote:
"Matt Silberstein" <matts2removethis@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 11:37:04 -0400, "Hillary Clinton's Fugitive
Criminal Friends"
<http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8RFDRS80&show_article=1>
wrote:
"Matt Silberstein" <matts2removethis@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 10:09:08 -0400, "Hillary Clinton's Fugitive
Criminal Friends"
<http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8RFDRS80&show_article=1>
wrote:
"P.Henry" <P.Henery@revolution.org> wrote in message
news:1is68yy5i5upd$.1suh34pkjsctu$.dlg@40tude.net...
On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 07:52:50 -0400,
Why are you posting articles that are over 6 months old?
=============
Still pissed that your terrorist briothers in Gitmo are not getting an
ACLU
Loy Ya i see.
Still pissed that we are probably going to have another Clinton in the
White House?
===============
Probably ? gee you dont sound very confident now do you ? Perhaps the
Dukakis syndrome has slapped you with reality again.
Probably means more likely than not. I admit that there is a chance
that Obama or Edwards might well get the nomination.
Dukakis, Once Burned, Refuses to Be Optimistic About 2008
Dukakis Holds 17 point Lead over Bush in Polls
It was around this very moment 20 years ago, the summer when Mr. Dukakis,
then the 53-year-old governor of Massachusetts, emerged at the head of a
crowded Democratic presidential pack & opened a 17-point lead over Vice
President George H.W. Bush in the polls.
http://www.observer.com/node/57075
Are you willing to put money on this? Which Republican do you think
has a chance?
==============
The one the Libmaggots fear & attack the most . Right now it's a tie between
Romney & Giuliani.
I don't fear any of them, not even a little. But I do think that
Giuliani deserves lots more public humiliation. He deserves to be
shown up for the craven dishonest rapacious unpatriotic fascist that
he is. So I hope he gets the nomination. I do find it amusing and
rather expected that you don't chose a Republican based on your liking
them (because, face it, no one likes any of the Republican candidates)
but on their supposed ability to beat a Democrat.
But, please, tell me something positive about Giuliani, tell me some
reason why someone would actually vote for him. Fred Stone tried, then
ran away with his tail between his legs because there is nothing
postive about Giuliani.
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07 Sep 2007 09:06:42 PM |
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On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 13:06:40 -0400, Matt Silberstein
<matts2removethis@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
But, please, tell me something positive about Giuliani
He's no longer mayor of NYC, and that's definitely a positive thing
about him - for NYC.
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| User: "Babs is a Liar, Bigot, Drunk. TenThousandNics" |
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07 Sep 2007 07:22:49 AM |
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"P.Henry" <P.Henery@revolution.org> wrote in news:1is68yy5i5upd
$.1suh34pkjsctu$.dlg@40tude.net:
On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 07:52:50 -0400,
Why are you posting articles that are over 6 months old?
Because Bab's has been drunk all this time and thought it was something
new.
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07 Sep 2007 06:55:17 AM |
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On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 04:54:39 -0600, "¥ UltraMan ¥" <ultra@man.jp>
wrote:
Federal Judge Rules Unconstitutional Parts of Patriot Act
Mark Hamblett
New York Law Journal
September 7, 2007
Congress' attempt to fix the problems with a key aspect of the USA PATRIOT Act
has failed to satisfy a Manhattan federal judge.
Southern District of New York Judge Victor Marrero Thursday ruled
unconstitutional a provision authorizing the FBI to issue a form of
administrative subpoena called a National Security Letter (NSL), finding that an
amended gag order on recipients of the letters still violated the First
Amendment.
Great... Another fuckin moron that clinton put on the bench... This
judicial buffoon {Marrero} decided that our Congress should not
attempt to foil terrorists intent on killing Americans by allowing
access to their internet records.
Of course, the imbecile known as ultra{girly}man "thinks" {term used
loosely} that Bush passed that law. Yes, ultra{girly}man is THAT
stupid.
Mike Smith
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07 Sep 2007 12:34:02 PM |
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On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 06:55:17 -0500, Mike Smith <mws@wt.net> wrote:
On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 04:54:39 -0600, "¥ UltraMan ¥" <ultra@man.jp>
wrote:
Federal Judge Rules Unconstitutional Parts of Patriot Act
Mark Hamblett
New York Law Journal
September 7, 2007
Congress' attempt to fix the problems with a key aspect of the USA PATRIOT Act
has failed to satisfy a Manhattan federal judge.
Southern District of New York Judge Victor Marrero Thursday ruled
unconstitutional a provision authorizing the FBI to issue a form of
administrative subpoena called a National Security Letter (NSL), finding that an
amended gag order on recipients of the letters still violated the First
Amendment.
Great... Another fuckin moron that clinton put on the bench... This
judicial buffoon {Marrero} decided that our Congress should not
attempt to foil terrorists intent on killing Americans by allowing
access to their internet records.
I find it at least somewhat interesting that it's O.K. for Americans
to die defending our "freedom" but it's not O.K. for Americans to die
by virtue of living under that very same "freedom." One becomes the
occasion to rescind freedom and cede power to government and the other
is marketed by government as the "cost" of freedom, which is then
bartered for the sheepskin of security clothing the wolf of power.
snip
Mike Smith
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"We ask for nothing, except what is right and just"
Red Cloud, Oglala Lakota Warrior/Statesman
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WASHINGTON -
Court Sides With Bush Administration on Wiretapping Internet Phone Calls
Friday, June 09, 2006
appeals court Friday sided with the Bush administration over rules that
make it easier for police and the FBI to wiretap Internet phone calls.
In a 2-1 ruling, the court said the Federal Communications Commission was
correct when it decided that providers of Internet phone service and
broadband services have obligations similar to those of telephone companies.
The FCC was responding to Justice Department complaints that companies must
ensure their equipment using new technologies can accommodate police
wiretaps under the 1994 Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act,
known as CALEA.
"We cannot set aside the commission's reasonable interpretation of the act
in favor of an alternatively plausible or an even better one," wrote appeals
court judge David Sentelle.
Judge Harry Edwards disagreed, saying that CALEA contains an exemption for
information services and that the FCC "has altogether gutted" it.
In determining that broadband Internet providers are subject to the law just
as telecommunications carriers are, the FCC "apparently forgot to read the
words of the statute," Edwards wrote in dissent.
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