Religions > Atheism > => God makes people Insane - Orders them to Murder Children ... Hallelujah ! <=
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03 Apr 2004 10:58:05 PM |
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=> God makes people Insane - Orders them to Murder Children ... Hallelujah ! <= |
Texas mom who stoned sons not guilty
TYLER, Texas (AP) -- A woman who claimed God ordered her to bash in the heads of
her sons was acquitted Saturday of all charges after a jury determined she was
legally insane during the killings.
A jury found that Deanna Laney did not know right from wrong May 9 when she
killed her two older sons, ages 6 and 8, in the front yard and left the
youngest, now 2, maimed in his crib. Laney, 39, was found not guilty by reason
of insanity of charges of capital murder and serious injury to a child.
Laney broke into tears as the verdict was read. Her husband, Keith Laney, sat
emotionless. A few jurors cried and struggled to maintain their composure.
State law allows Laney to be committed to a maximum security state hospital.
Medical evaluations will dictate when she will be released.
In closing arguments earlier Saturday, prosecutors portrayed the killings last
Mother's Day weekend as deceptively planned and coldly executed.
"It was graphic, it was horrific and it was brutal," prosecutor Matt Bingham
told the jury.
Laney had faced life in prison for the deaths of 8-year-old Joshua and
6-year-old Luke, and the beating of Aaron, now 2.
Bingham pounded his fist in his hand as he recounted Joshua's killing: "He got
strike after strike after strike on his head to the point that his brains were
coming out of his head like liquid."
Defense attorneys argued that insanity was the only reason why a deeply
religious mother who homeschooled her children would kill two of them and maim
another without so much as a tear.
All five mental health experts consulted in the case, including two for the
prosecution and one for the judge, concluded that a severe mental illness caused
Laney to have psychotic delusions that rendered her incapable of knowing right
from wrong during the killings -- the standard in Texas for insanity.
Psychiatrists testified that Laney believed she was divinely chosen by God --
just as Mary was chosen to bear Christ -- to kill her children as a test of
faith and then serve as a witness after the world ended.
Prosecutors portrayed the killings as deceptively planned and coldly executed.
They said that even if Laney believed she was doing right by God, she had to
have known she was doing wrong by state law. Her first call, they pointed out,
was to 911 to summon authorities.
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03 Apr 2004 11:09:24 PM |
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Texas mom who stoned sons not guilty
TYLER, Texas (AP) -- A woman who claimed God ordered her to bash in the heads
of
her sons was acquitted Saturday of all charges after a jury determined she
was
legally insane during the killings.
Anyone want to take a bet that if the mother had been a religion other than
fundamentalist Christian she would have been found guilty?
Once again Christian religious terrorists get off scot free...
Rich Goranson, Amherst, NY, USA (aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1)
EAC Department of Applied Rattan Use
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking, which
leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy." - Robert Anton
Wilson
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| User: "Liz" |
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04 Apr 2004 11:08:22 AM |
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On 04 Apr 2004 05:09:24 GMT, forlornh@aol.complicated (Lord Calvert)
in news message <20040404000924.08277.00000759@mb-m02.aol.com> wrote:
Texas mom who stoned sons not guilty
TYLER, Texas (AP) -- A woman who claimed God ordered her to bash in the heads
of
her sons was acquitted Saturday of all charges after a jury determined she
was
legally insane during the killings.
Anyone want to take a bet that if the mother had been a religion other than
fundamentalist Christian she would have been found guilty?
Once again Christian religious terrorists get off scot free...
I see it differently. We now have a court decision that people who
listen to God® are legally insane.
Liz #658 BAAWA
How come an 'act of god' is always something awful? --
Warlord Steve Knight
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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| Title: Re: => God makes people Insane - Orders them to Murder Children ... Hallelujah ! <= |
04 Apr 2004 12:00:16 PM |
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Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote in alt.atheism
forlornh@aol.complicated (Lord Calvert)
Texas mom who stoned sons not guilty
TYLER, Texas (AP) -- A woman who claimed God ordered her to bash in
the heads of her sons was acquitted Saturday of all charges after a jury
determined she was legally insane during the killings.
Anyone want to take a bet that if the mother had been a religion other than
fundamentalist Christian she would have been found guilty?
Once again Christian religious terrorists get off scot free...
I see it differently. We now have a court decision that people who
listen to God® are legally insane.
Did you notice the names of her children?
Joshua, Luke, and Aaron.
And in the Andrea Yates case...
From:
http://www.click2houston.com/news/1246205/detail.html
"Yates faces two capital murder charges: one covering the drownings of
Noah, 7, and John, 5, and the other covering 6-month-old Mary.
Multiple murders and the slaying of a child under age 6 are
death-penalty eligible in Texas. Charges eventually could be filed in
the deaths of Paul, 3, and Luke, 2."
"The drowning of Noah, 7." Man oh Man how I could play on that
if it wasn't so tragic...
So we've got the following children killed by psychopathic Biblemaniac
Texas women...
Joshua
Luke
Aaron
Noah
John
Mary
Paul
Luke
Who's next, I ask?
It'd be funny if it wasn't so sad. <sigh>
Anyone who thinks that those murders would have occurred without
the women being brainwashed by some Christian cult or church needs to
have their heads examined themselves, for an accute case of denial,
imo.
--
Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://web2.airmail.net/~elo/news
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| User: "Liz" |
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04 Apr 2004 01:19:41 PM |
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On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 17:00:16 GMT, Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> in
news message <67e0709hg9qt4vebc90pmk33huu4eb1o7t@4ax.com> wrote:
Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote in alt.atheism
forlornh@aol.complicated (Lord Calvert)
Texas mom who stoned sons not guilty
TYLER, Texas (AP) -- A woman who claimed God ordered her to bash in
the heads of her sons was acquitted Saturday of all charges after a jury
determined she was legally insane during the killings.
Anyone want to take a bet that if the mother had been a religion other than
fundamentalist Christian she would have been found guilty?
Once again Christian religious terrorists get off scot free...
I see it differently. We now have a court decision that people who
listen to God® are legally insane.
Did you notice the names of her children?
Joshua, Luke, and Aaron.
And in the Andrea Yates case...
From:
http://www.click2houston.com/news/1246205/detail.html
"Yates faces two capital murder charges: one covering the drownings of
Noah, 7, and John, 5, and the other covering 6-month-old Mary.
Multiple murders and the slaying of a child under age 6 are
death-penalty eligible in Texas. Charges eventually could be filed in
the deaths of Paul, 3, and Luke, 2."
"The drowning of Noah, 7." Man oh Man how I could play on that
if it wasn't so tragic...
Yes, both of them were extremely religious.
So we've got the following children killed by psychopathic Biblemaniac
Texas women...
Joshua
Luke
Aaron
Noah
John
Mary
Paul
Luke
Who's next, I ask?
It'd be funny if it wasn't so sad. <sigh>
Anyone who thinks that those murders would have occurred without
the women being brainwashed by some Christian cult or church needs to
have their heads examined themselves, for an accute case of denial,
imo.
The cases are almost identical. I think that largest part of the
problem is that their insanity was so entwined with their religion
that it had a tendency to be disguised -- before the murder of their
children, that is. Dee Laney even told her pastor that God® spoke to
her and told her that she had been called as a witness to the
Endtimes©, and he thought it was a perfectly normal statement. In
both cases even though the mental aberrations had been going on for
years, no one was able to distinguish between insanity and faith to
recognize that it was a problem until it was too late.
Liz #658 BAAWA
Liz, you like most people do not want to have faith in
things which have no basis in reality. -- josalt
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| User: "Craig" |
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04 Apr 2004 10:20:40 PM |
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Faith=Insanity
"Liz" <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 17:00:16 GMT, Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> in
news message <67e0709hg9qt4vebc90pmk33huu4eb1o7t@4ax.com> wrote:
Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote in alt.atheism
forlornh@aol.complicated (Lord Calvert)
Texas mom who stoned sons not guilty
TYLER, Texas (AP) -- A woman who claimed God ordered her to bash in
the heads of her sons was acquitted Saturday of all charges after a
jury
determined she was legally insane during the killings.
Anyone want to take a bet that if the mother had been a religion other
than
fundamentalist Christian she would have been found guilty?
Once again Christian religious terrorists get off scot free...
I see it differently. We now have a court decision that people who
listen to God® are legally insane.
Did you notice the names of her children?
Joshua, Luke, and Aaron.
And in the Andrea Yates case...
From:
http://www.click2houston.com/news/1246205/detail.html
"Yates faces two capital murder charges: one covering the drownings of
Noah, 7, and John, 5, and the other covering 6-month-old Mary.
Multiple murders and the slaying of a child under age 6 are
death-penalty eligible in Texas. Charges eventually could be filed in
the deaths of Paul, 3, and Luke, 2."
"The drowning of Noah, 7." Man oh Man how I could play on that
if it wasn't so tragic...
Yes, both of them were extremely religious.
So we've got the following children killed by psychopathic Biblemaniac
Texas women...
Joshua
Luke
Aaron
Noah
John
Mary
Paul
Luke
Who's next, I ask?
It'd be funny if it wasn't so sad. <sigh>
Anyone who thinks that those murders would have occurred without
the women being brainwashed by some Christian cult or church needs to
have their heads examined themselves, for an accute case of denial,
imo.
The cases are almost identical. I think that largest part of the
problem is that their insanity was so entwined with their religion
that it had a tendency to be disguised -- before the murder of their
children, that is. Dee Laney even told her pastor that God® spoke to
her and told her that she had been called as a witness to the
Endtimes©, and he thought it was a perfectly normal statement. In
both cases even though the mental aberrations had been going on for
years, no one was able to distinguish between insanity and faith to
recognize that it was a problem until it was too late.
Liz #658 BAAWA
Liz, you like most people do not want to have faith in
things which have no basis in reality. -- josalt
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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05 Apr 2004 05:16:26 AM |
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Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote:
Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote in alt.atheism
forlornh@aol.complicated (Lord Calvert)
Texas mom who stoned sons not guilty
TYLER, Texas (AP) -- A woman who claimed God ordered her to bash in
the heads of her sons was acquitted Saturday of all charges after a jury
determined she was legally insane during the killings.
Anyone want to take a bet that if the mother had been a religion other than
fundamentalist Christian she would have been found guilty?
Once again Christian religious terrorists get off scot free...
I see it differently. We now have a court decision that people who
listen to God® are legally insane.
Did you notice the names of her children?
Joshua, Luke, and Aaron.
And in the Andrea Yates case...
From:
http://www.click2houston.com/news/1246205/detail.html
"Yates faces two capital murder charges: one covering the drownings of
Noah, 7, and John, 5, and the other covering 6-month-old Mary.
Multiple murders and the slaying of a child under age 6 are
death-penalty eligible in Texas. Charges eventually could be filed in
the deaths of Paul, 3, and Luke, 2."
"The drowning of Noah, 7." Man oh Man how I could play on that
if it wasn't so tragic...
Yes, both of them were extremely religious.
Enough to name their children after Biblical characters. John and
Mary are common enough names, but when you toss in a Noah,
I think it's pretty clear where the names come from.
So we've got the following children killed by psychopathic Biblemaniac
Texas women...
Joshua
Luke
Aaron
Noah
John
Mary
Paul
Luke
Who's next, I ask?
It'd be funny if it wasn't so sad. <sigh>
Anyone who thinks that those murders would have occurred without
the women being brainwashed by some Christian cult or church needs to
have their heads examined themselves, for an accute case of denial,
imo.
The cases are almost identical. I think that largest part of the
problem is that their insanity was so entwined with their religion
that it had a tendency to be disguised -- before the murder of their
children, that is. Dee Laney even told her pastor that God® spoke to
her and told her that she had been called as a witness to the
Endtimes©, and he thought it was a perfectly normal statement. In
both cases even though the mental aberrations had been going on for
years, no one was able to distinguish between insanity and faith to
recognize that it was a problem until it was too late.
Maybe this case will cause some changes for the better, but for
some reason, I doubt it. I hate being pessimistic, but in this case I
think it might be warranted.
--
Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://web2.airmail.net/~elo/news
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03 Apr 2004 11:53:42 PM |
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In article <HBMbc.112$c93.60996@news.uswest.net>, => Vox Populi ©
<vox@popu.li> wrote:
Texas mom who stoned sons not guilty
TYLER, Texas (AP) -- A woman who claimed God ordered her to bash in the heads
of
her sons was acquitted Saturday of all charges after a jury determined she was
legally insane during the killings.
Should be, "guilty by reason of insanity."
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| User: "Stuart Tanner" |
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04 Apr 2004 12:05:48 AM |
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"William Klee" <fnordy2k@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:030420042353429661%fnordy2k@yahoo.com...
In article <HBMbc.112$c93.60996@news.uswest.net>, => Vox Populi ©
<vox@popu.li> wrote:
Texas mom who stoned sons not guilty
TYLER, Texas (AP) -- A woman who claimed God ordered her to bash in the
heads
of
her sons was acquitted Saturday of all charges after a jury determined
she was
legally insane during the killings.
Should be, "guilty by reason of insanity."
Maybe she will stay in a prison hospitol for life. In the US life really
does mean life. They tend to lock up their people for alot longer than we
do.
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| User: "Marky" |
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04 Apr 2004 09:26:23 AM |
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"Stuart Tanner" <general_use123@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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"William Klee" <fnordy2k@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:030420042353429661%fnordy2k@yahoo.com...
In article <HBMbc.112$c93.60996@news.uswest.net>, => Vox Populi ©
<vox@popu.li> wrote:
Texas mom who stoned sons not guilty
TYLER, Texas (AP) -- A woman who claimed God ordered her to bash in
the
heads
of
her sons was acquitted Saturday of all charges after a jury determined
she was
legally insane during the killings.
Should be, "guilty by reason of insanity."
Maybe she will stay in a prison hospitol for life. In the US life really
does mean life. They tend to lock up their people for alot longer than we
do.
Life is as long as anyone can be locked up...or do they now have an
after-life sentence?
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| User: "= Vox Populi ©" |
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04 Apr 2004 10:27:09 AM |
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Marky wrote:
"Stuart Tanner" <general_use123@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:406fa61f@212.67.96.135...
"William Klee" <fnordy2k@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:030420042353429661%fnordy2k@yahoo.com...
In article <HBMbc.112$c93.60996@news.uswest.net>, => Vox Populi ©
<vox@popu.li> wrote:
Texas mom who stoned sons not guilty
TYLER, Texas (AP) -- A woman who claimed God ordered her to bash
in the heads of
her sons was acquitted Saturday of all charges after a jury
determined she was legally insane during the killings.
Should be, "guilty by reason of insanity."
Maybe she will stay in a prison hospitol for life. In the US life
really does mean life. They tend to lock up their people for alot
longer than we do.
Life is as long as anyone can be locked up...or do they now have an
after-life sentence?
In the U$$A, they have many sentences that exceed "life".
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| User: "rumik" |
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04 Apr 2004 12:00:14 PM |
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=> Vox Populi © wrote:
Marky wrote:
"Stuart Tanner" <general_use123@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:406fa61f@212.67.96.135...
"William Klee" <fnordy2k@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:030420042353429661%fnordy2k@yahoo.com...
In article <HBMbc.112$c93.60996@news.uswest.net>, => Vox Populi ©
<vox@popu.li> wrote:
Texas mom who stoned sons not guilty
TYLER, Texas (AP) -- A woman who claimed God ordered her to bash
in the heads of
her sons was acquitted Saturday of all charges after a jury
determined she was legally insane during the killings.
Should be, "guilty by reason of insanity."
Maybe she will stay in a prison hospitol for life. In the US life
really does mean life. They tend to lock up their people for alot
longer than we do.
Life is as long as anyone can be locked up...or do they now have an
after-life sentence?
In the U$$A, they have many sentences that exceed "life".
Yes, I've heard of 140-year sentences being handed out.
This is what I call clear, sound thinking on the part
of judges.
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| User: "Marky" |
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05 Apr 2004 12:00:38 AM |
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"rumik" <rumik@newsgroups.com> wrote in message
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=> Vox Populi © wrote:
Marky wrote:
"Stuart Tanner" <general_use123@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:406fa61f@212.67.96.135...
"William Klee" <fnordy2k@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:030420042353429661%fnordy2k@yahoo.com...
In article <HBMbc.112$c93.60996@news.uswest.net>, => Vox Populi ©
<vox@popu.li> wrote:
Texas mom who stoned sons not guilty
TYLER, Texas (AP) -- A woman who claimed God ordered her to bash
in the heads of
her sons was acquitted Saturday of all charges after a jury
determined she was legally insane during the killings.
Should be, "guilty by reason of insanity."
Maybe she will stay in a prison hospitol for life. In the US life
really does mean life. They tend to lock up their people for alot
longer than we do.
Life is as long as anyone can be locked up...or do they now have an
after-life sentence?
In the U$$A, they have many sentences that exceed "life".
Yes, I've heard of 140-year sentences being handed out.
This is what I call clear, sound thinking on the part
of judges.
Yes, especially when, according to anti-smokers, most criminals are
smokers...why not just put them in something like a half-way house...let
them smoke their way out...so to speak...
it could save them a bundle on trying to keep these people alive for 140
years...or longer...just imagine all the tobacco taxes the government will
lose when they lock up all smokers in non-smoking jails...
What a stupid system...
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04 Apr 2004 12:38:49 PM |
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rumik <rumik@newsgroups.com> wrote in news:taXbc.34$dG.252
@news20.bellglobal.com:
=> Vox Populi © wrote:
Marky wrote:
"Stuart Tanner" <general_use123@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:406fa61f@212.67.96.135...
"William Klee" <fnordy2k@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:030420042353429661%fnordy2k@yahoo.com...
In article <HBMbc.112$c93.60996@news.uswest.net>, => Vox Populi ©
<vox@popu.li> wrote:
Texas mom who stoned sons not guilty
TYLER, Texas (AP) -- A woman who claimed God ordered her to bash
in the heads of
her sons was acquitted Saturday of all charges after a jury
determined she was legally insane during the killings.
Should be, "guilty by reason of insanity."
Maybe she will stay in a prison hospitol for life. In the US life
really does mean life. They tend to lock up their people for alot
longer than we do.
Life is as long as anyone can be locked up...or do they now have an
after-life sentence?
In the U$$A, they have many sentences that exceed "life".
Yes, I've heard of 140-year sentences being handed out.
This is what I call clear, sound thinking on the part
of judges.
Yes, it is, if you consider that parole is often considered at some
fraction of the maximum sentence.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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04 Apr 2004 08:33:50 PM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
rumik <rumik@newsgroups.com> wrote in news:taXbc.34$dG.252
@news20.bellglobal.com:
=> Vox Populi © wrote:
Marky wrote:
"Stuart Tanner" <general_use123@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:406fa61f@212.67.96.135...
"William Klee" <fnordy2k@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:030420042353429661%fnordy2k@yahoo.com...
In article <HBMbc.112$c93.60996@news.uswest.net>, => Vox Populi ©
<vox@popu.li> wrote:
Texas mom who stoned sons not guilty
TYLER, Texas (AP) -- A woman who claimed God ordered her to bash
in the heads of
her sons was acquitted Saturday of all charges after a jury
determined she was legally insane during the killings.
Should be, "guilty by reason of insanity."
Maybe she will stay in a prison hospitol for life. In the US life
really does mean life. They tend to lock up their people for alot
longer than we do.
Life is as long as anyone can be locked up...or do they now have an
after-life sentence?
In the U$$A, they have many sentences that exceed "life".
Yes, I've heard of 140-year sentences being handed out.
This is what I call clear, sound thinking on the part
of judges.
Yes, it is, if you consider that parole is often considered at some
fraction of the maximum sentence.
Casualties of the Drug War
by David Perera
Name: Douglas L. Gray
Sentence date: July 1, 1992
Sentence length: Life without parole
Looking for enough grass to comfortably smoke and sell to friends, Gray - a
Vietnam vet and father - traveled to the Econo Lodge in Decatur, Alabama, to buy
a pound of pot. Waiting for him was the Morgan County Drug Task Force, which
hired a recent jailbird to play drug dealer for a hundred bucks. Gray had a
criminal record, but had never served jail time and had stayed out of trouble
with the law for 13 years. One conviction for "trafficking in cannabis" later,
Gray's wife attempted suicide, while Gray himself spends his time in the
maximum-security prison in Springville.
Name: Gloria Van Winkle
Sentence date: July 10, 1992
Sentence length: Life
Caught with one-sixteenth of an ounce of crack in a hotel-room buy set up by an
undercover cop, Van Winkle - twice previously convicted of cocaine possession -
says police forced her into the deal that resulted in a life sentence. Van
Winkle, a pregnant mom, on parole and trying to stay clean, moved into a cheap
motel. It was an area, a county prosecutor told the Kansas City Star, where an
incipient drug ring was brewing. "We wanted to stop it before it got going." A
detective posed as a dealer. Van Winkle says she was offered crack, didn't buy,
didn't want it, and left the drugs behind. Police say she threw the drugs away,
onto the ground, only when she realized it was a bust. "Outrageous government
conduct," said Van Winkle's attorney, taking the case for appeal before the U.S.
Supreme Court. "The government created the crime and orchestrated it from start
to finish." Sentenced under a state three-strikes law, Van Winkle is the only
nonviolent female offender serving life behind Kansas state bars.
Name: Jim Montgomery
Sentenced on: April 9, 1992
Sentence length: Life plus 16 years
Paralyzed from the chest down, Montgomery used marijuana to control his muscle
spasms; Oklahoma police said the 2 ounces confiscated from his wheelchair pouch
was incontrovertible proof that Montgomery dealt drugs. His lawyer charges that
ulterior motives fueled his prosecution - namely, police wanted to convert his
property into a station, but the Montgomerys would not sell. However, because
the wheelchair was inside his house, the Beckham County prosecutor filed
forfeiture papers. (The request was denied under a now expunged Oklahoma law
that excepted homesteader property from seizure.) Montgomery was released in
1995 for health reasons after spending 11 months inside during 1992 and being
returned to prison after his appeal was denied.
COMMONWEALTH v. Calvin White
On November 21, 2003, the Norfolk Circuit Court formally sentenced the defendant
to the jury-imposed verdict of Life plus 28 years in the Virginia State
Penitentiary for First Degree Murder, two counts of Robbery, and two counts of
Use of a Firearm arising out of the April 10, 2002 robbery and murder of one man
(Terrell Gillian) and the robbery of a second man in the 3200 block of Marne
Avenue in the city of Norfolk. The defendant and a second suspect approached
the homicide victim, Terrell Gillian, and the second man and then proceeded to
rob both men. The homicide victim was shot in the back after he was robbed.
The jury convicted the defendant of all charges and recommended a sentence of
Life in prison plus twenty-eight (28) years.
COMMONWEALTH v. Brinny Austin
On November 21, 2003, the Norfolk Circuit Court sentenced the defendant after
having found him guilty of First Degree Murder, Robbery and Use of a Firearm.
This offense took place on May 5, 2002, when the defendant and two co-defendants
robbed the Harbor Freight Tool Store located at 415 North Military Highway,
Norfolk. During the course of the robbery an employee of the store was shot
several times and killed. His body was found the next morning by an assistant
store manager and he was pronounced dead at the scene. Approximately $3000 was
stolen from the store's safe. A latex glove with the defendant's DNA and
gunshot primer residue was found at the scene. The defendant was sentenced to
one-hundred fifteen years (115) in the Virginia State Penitentiary. The
execution of ten (10) years of this sentence was suspended conditioned upon the
defendant completing twenty (20) years of probation upon his release from
prison. The defendant will therefore serve one-hundred five (105) years in
prison.
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04 Apr 2004 08:30:13 PM |
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rumik wrote:
=> Vox Populi © wrote:
Marky wrote:
"Stuart Tanner" <general_use123@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:406fa61f@212.67.96.135...
"William Klee" <fnordy2k@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:030420042353429661%fnordy2k@yahoo.com...
In article <HBMbc.112$c93.60996@news.uswest.net>, => Vox Populi ©
<vox@popu.li> wrote:
Texas mom who stoned sons not guilty
TYLER, Texas (AP) -- A woman who claimed God ordered her to bash
in the heads of
her sons was acquitted Saturday of all charges after a jury
determined she was legally insane during the killings.
Should be, "guilty by reason of insanity."
Maybe she will stay in a prison hospitol for life. In the US life
really does mean life. They tend to lock up their people for alot
longer than we do.
Life is as long as anyone can be locked up...or do they now have an
after-life sentence?
In the U$$A, they have many sentences that exceed "life".
Yes, I've heard of 140-year sentences being handed out.
This is what I call clear, sound thinking on the part
of judges.
Three hundred sixty-five years
February 27, 2002
by Kevin Acers, president
Amnesty International/Oklahoma City
This was the sentence imposed on Arvin McGee, an innocent prisoner recently
released after DNA evidence cleared him of a 1987 sexual assault in Tulsa. He
spent 14 years behind bars. Fourteen out of three hundred sixty-five, later
"reduced" to 298 years--still a sentence of life in prison until death.
Thank God that Arvin McGee's freedom was won after fourteen years.
And thank God that the 20-year old victim of this crime survived her brutal
attack. For her, for her loved ones, and for Arvin McGee.
Had this unfortunate woman been killed as well as raped and robbed, is there any
doubt that the jury would have sentenced Arvin McGee to death? The jury viewed
the crime worthy of a three-hundred-plus years sentence. If murder were
involved, McGee would surely have been sent to death row.
After fourteen years on death row, where would McGee be now? Quite possibly in a
body bag.
This was not a capital case. This was not a murder.
But if it had been, Oklahoma would have sent yet another innocent man to death
row--and might have already killed him.
A system that hands down lengthy sentences to innocent men is too flawed to be
trusted with the death penalty. If the system cannot guarantee that no innocent
person will be executed-and how can it, looking at what happened to Arvin
McGee?--then the death penalty must be abolished.
Arvin McGee's wrongful imprisonment is a tragedy, and his lost 14 years can
never be replaced. It is no small thing that his liberty, at least, has been
restored.
McGee is the third innocent prisoner released from Oklahoma prisons in under a
year thanks to DNA testing. It is not a stretch to assume that there are other
innocent prisoners convicted of crimes which left no DNA evidence behind.
It is likewise not a stretch to assume that one of these unknown innocents may
be sitting in a cell on death row, and will be executed with his innocence
undiscovered.
When a mistake is made and an innocent prisoner has been sentenced to a lengthy
prison term, liberty can at least be restored. If that prisoner has been
executed, nothing is left but deep, irrevocable shame.
We must face the fact that our system makes the kinds of mistakes that rule out
the death penalty as an acceptable practice.
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04 Apr 2004 08:59:19 PM |
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On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 19:30:13 -0600, "=> Vox Populi ©" <vox@popu.li>
wrote:
We must face the fact that our system makes the kinds of mistakes that rule out
the death penalty as an acceptable practice.
Except for people thinking about smoking. We should not be
so easy on them.
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| User: "The Last Church" |
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04 Apr 2004 11:19:52 PM |
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On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 10:26:23 -0400, "Marky" <akwaraaat8@look.ca> wrote:
<Life is as long as anyone can be locked up...or do they now have an
<after-life sentence?
Yes America does. If you really ***** them off they give you 3 life
sentence's . And they make you do all three. If you die early they
stuff the body and put it back in the cell.
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Michael
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05 Apr 2004 12:03:52 AM |
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"The Last Church" <bleahcim49@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:chn1709b0kdec4v46s03937t3k6g32aabi@4ax.com...
On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 10:26:23 -0400, "Marky" <akwaraaat8@look.ca> wrote:
<Life is as long as anyone can be locked up...or do they now have an
<after-life sentence?
Yes America does. If you really ***** them off they give you 3 life
sentence's . And they make you do all three. If you die early they
stuff the body and put it back in the cell.
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Michael
Now that's overcrowding...but it might save on food if they don't have to
eat...bet we're still footing the bill for their meals though...
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| User: "** Bu$hs Porch Monkey **" |
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16 Apr 2004 01:51:20 AM |
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magnulus wrote:
I don't even smoke cigarettes, bub. I just think it's very
"nazi-ish" to tell people what they can and can't do with their own
lives.
So ALL laws are "nazi-ish" ... eh moron?
--
"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our
number one priority and we will not rest until we find him."
~ George Bush Jr. 2001-09-13
"I don't know where he (bin Laden) is. I have no idea and I really
don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
~ George Bush Jr. 2002-03-13
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| User: "** Bu$hs Porch Monkey **" |
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16 Apr 2004 10:11:50 AM |
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wrote:
magnulus wrote:
I don't even smoke cigarettes, bub. I just think it's very
"nazi-ish" to tell people what they can and can't do with their own
lives.
Said porch monkey's bush:
So ALL laws are "nazi-ish" ... eh moron?
If they dictate to people rather than serve people, you betcha
monkey's bush.
So the anti public-smoking laws that server the vast majority of
the voters are OK by you then, eh Pud?
Were you born stupid, or did your mamma bash your soft
skull in as a child ...?
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| User: "freethinker" |
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16 Apr 2004 10:40:12 AM |
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On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 00:51:20 -0600, "** Bu$h's Porch Monkey **"
<cuntyrice@lying.*****.com> wrote:
magnulus wrote:
I don't even smoke cigarettes, bub. I just think it's very
"nazi-ish" to tell people what they can and can't do with their own
lives.
So ALL laws are "nazi-ish" ... eh moron?
Hey moron, most laws are against causing harm to others. Robbery,
murder, rape, fraud etc.
Drug laws are against consensual acts, by consenting adults. The
laws against selling alcohol and tobacco to minors, are reasonable.
Even if the age of consent is not.
We have no moral obligation to support nazi type laws, Indeed we
have a moral obligation to reject such laws. As our Lord and Saviour
did when he spared the life of a woman accused of adultery.
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| User: "freethinker" |
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17 Apr 2004 10:03:46 AM |
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On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 12:58:43 -0600, "** Bu$h's Porch Monkey **"
<cuntyrice@lying.*****.com> wrote:
freethinker wrote:
On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 00:51:20 -0600, "** Bu$h's Porch Monkey **"
<cuntyrice@lying.*****.com> wrote:
magnulus wrote:
I don't even smoke cigarettes, bub. I just think it's very
"nazi-ish" to tell people what they can and can't do with their own
lives.
So ALL laws are "nazi-ish" ... eh moron?
Hey moron, most laws are against causing harm to others. Robbery,
murder, rape, fraud etc.
Drug laws are against consensual acts, by consenting adults.
So you don't think drug addiction harms society as a whole?
No more so than alcohol, tobacco, There`s some good evidence
pointing at sugar as causing more harm than recreational drugs.
The laws against selling alcohol and tobacco to minors, are reasonable.
Even if the age of consent is not.
How ... interesting. Have you seen your doctor about your
acute schitzophrenia ...?
Feeble attempt at insult is noted. Just shows what a moron you
really are.
We have no moral obligation to support nazi type laws,
So who's forcing you ....? ... except the guy with the badges
and guns ...?
Have I fallen for satire?
Not likely in view of the following.
Indeed we
have a moral obligation to reject such laws. As our Lord and Saviour
did when he spared the life of a woman accused of adultery.
***** your "savior" and ***** on your pathetic religion.
Excerpts from the anti-christ Bible that misled sheep no longer
follow. As christians slowly but surely drag kicking and screaming
the church away from Satan. Even more of this kind of nonsense will be
ignored. And the truth of the teachings of christ, will be followed
instead of being ignored.
Exo 31:15 Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of
rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he
shall surely be put to death.
Only a few nuts still attempt to enforce this and they violate it by
working on Sunday to get it returned to law.
Lev 24:16 And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely
be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as
well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the
name of the LORD, shall be put to death.
Very little of LEV. is followed by the most devout of christians.
Josh 1:18 Whosoever he be that doth rebel against thy commandment, and
will not hearken unto thy words in all that thou commandest him, he shall
be put to death: only be strong and of a good courage.
Used by the anti-christ church to eliminate enemies.
2 Chr 15:13 That whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be
put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.
Saint Paul not Jesus.
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17 Apr 2004 02:03:11 PM |
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"freethinker" <Freethinker@utopia.com> wrote in message news:408143e6.42617360@news.airmail.net...
On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 12:58:43 -0600, "** Bu$h's Porch Monkey **"
<cuntyrice@lying.*****.com> wrote:
freethinker wrote:
On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 00:51:20 -0600, "** Bu$h's Porch Monkey **"
<cuntyrice@lying.*****.com> wrote:
magnulus wrote:
I don't even smoke cigarettes, bub. I just think it's very
"nazi-ish" to tell people what they can and can't do with their own
lives.
So ALL laws are "nazi-ish" ... eh moron?
Hey moron, most laws are against causing harm to others. Robbery,
murder, rape, fraud etc.
Drug laws are against consensual acts, by consenting adults.
So you don't think drug addiction harms society as a whole?
No more so than alcohol, tobacco, There`s some good evidence
pointing at sugar as causing more harm than recreational drugs.
Nope, none, zero, nada, ziltch 'evidence' at all for that stupid claim.
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17 Apr 2004 11:36:50 AM |
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On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 12:58:43 -0600, "** Bu$h's Porch Monkey **"
<cuntyrice@lying.*****.com> wrote:
Hey moron, most laws are against causing harm to others. Robbery,
murder, rape, fraud etc.
Drug laws are against consensual acts, by consenting adults.
So you don't think drug addiction harms society as a whole?
No, it's not drugs. Personal freedom harms society as a whole.
The trick is to find the balance.
If all personal freedoms are taken away, society will still not be
anywhere near perfect. There's no such thing as a perfect
society, it's not possible. So might as well let people have some
fun, and a sense of freedom.
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| User: "= Vox Populi ©" |
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19 Apr 2004 11:04:46 AM |
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wrote:
On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 12:58:43 -0600, "** Bu$h's Porch Monkey **"
<cuntyrice@lying.*****.com> wrote:
Hey moron, most laws are against causing harm to others. Robbery,
murder, rape, fraud etc.
Drug laws are against consensual acts, by consenting adults.
So you don't think drug addiction harms society as a whole?
No, it's not drugs. Personal freedom harms society as a whole.
The trick is to find the balance.
And society has now found a balance, keeping lowlife addicts from
smoking in PUBLIC.
If all personal freedoms are taken away, society will still not be
anywhere near perfect. There's no such thing as a perfect
society, it's not possible.
Who said there was, numbnuts?
So might as well let people have some
fun, and a sense of freedom.
We do, freedom to attend PUBLIC places without
having to breathe the effluent and stench of putrid lowlife
addicted scumbags like you.
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04 Apr 2004 12:06:22 AM |
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William Klee wrote:
In article <HBMbc.112$c93.60996@news.uswest.net>, => Vox Populi ©
<vox@popu.li> wrote:
Texas mom who stoned sons not guilty
TYLER, Texas (AP) -- A woman who claimed God ordered her to bash in
the heads of
her sons was acquitted Saturday of all charges after a jury
determined she was legally insane during the killings.
Should be, "guilty by reason of insanity."
You mean, "Guilty but Insane"?
Does god punish insane people ...?
Do they burn in eternal damnation in hell ...?
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04 Apr 2004 04:25:04 AM |
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On Sat, 3 Apr 2004 23:06:22 -0700, "=> Vox Populi ©" <vox@popu.li>
wrote:
[Followups trimmed; restore if desired]
William Klee wrote:
In article <HBMbc.112$c93.60996@news.uswest.net>, => Vox Populi ©
<vox@popu.li> wrote:
Texas mom who stoned sons not guilty
TYLER, Texas (AP) -- A woman who claimed God ordered her to bash in
the heads of
her sons was acquitted Saturday of all charges after a jury
determined she was legally insane during the killings.
Should be, "guilty by reason of insanity."
You mean, "Guilty but Insane"?
Used to be that in the UK.
Then they changed that to "not guilty by reason of insanity".
Not sure what it is now.
Makes little difference; either way they lock you up (somewhere) for
as long as they like.
Palliates the liberals and satisfies the mob.
Does god punish insane people ...?
I think their sanity is restored.
Do they burn in eternal damnation in hell ...?
No, that's only for unbaptised babies.
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04 Apr 2004 10:26:29 AM |
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IANAL wrote:
On Sat, 3 Apr 2004 23:06:22 -0700, "=> Vox Populi ©" <vox@popu.li>
wrote:
[Followups trimmed; restore if desired]
William Klee wrote:
In article <HBMbc.112$c93.60996@news.uswest.net>, => Vox Populi ©
<vox@popu.li> wrote:
Texas mom who stoned sons not guilty
TYLER, Texas (AP) -- A woman who claimed God ordered her to bash in
the heads of
her sons was acquitted Saturday of all charges after a jury
determined she was legally insane during the killings.
Should be, "guilty by reason of insanity."
You mean, "Guilty but Insane"?
Used to be that in the UK.
Then they changed that to "not guilty by reason of insanity".
Not sure what it is now.
Makes little difference; either way they lock you up (somewhere) for
as long as they like.
They can only hold them until their regain their sanity. In fact
it is quite possible that they could have been bat-***** crazy at
the time of the crime, only to have regained their sanity by the
time of the trial, hence still "not guilty b.r.o.i", yet not available
for the nut-house.
Palliates the liberals and satisfies the mob.
And what of the insatiable neo-cons ?
Do they just get fucked again?
Does god punish insane people ...?
I think their sanity is restored.
Do they burn in eternal damnation in hell ...?
No, that's only for unbaptised babies.
***** infidel infants.
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04 Apr 2004 02:46:38 PM |
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On Sat, 3 Apr 2004 21:58:05 -0700, "=> Vox Populi ©" <vox@popu.li>
thought hard and said:
State law allows Laney to be committed to a maximum security state hospital.
Medical evaluations will dictate when she will be released.
Why do I get the feeling that she will be "a-okay" in about... two
years?
--
-Daniel "Mr. Brevity" Kolle; 16 A.A. #2035
Koji Kondo, Yo-Yo Ma, Gustav Mahler, and Krzysztof Penderecki are my Gods.
Madly Insane EAC Scientist.
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| User: "Newton Joseph" |
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04 Apr 2004 04:20:50 PM |
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State law allows Laney to be committed to a maximum security state
hospital.
Medical evaluations will dictate when she will be released.
Why do I get the feeling that she will be "a-okay" in about... two
years?
She will continue to be a religious fanatic. There is no chance of her ever
becoming normal.
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