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User: "_ Prof. Jonez _"
Date: 09 Dec 2007 08:24:25 PM
Object: => Gunman shoots 5 at Ted Faggard's Mega-Church <= more American Gun MADNESS! - PRAISE the LORD !!
Gunman killed after opening fire at church
a.. NEW: Gunman and one victim dead; four others injured
b.. NEW: Shooter was killed by church "security staff member," police say
c.. Gunman fired on worshippers at Colorado Springs megachurch, minister says
(CNN) -- A gunman attacked worshippers at a Colorado Springs, Colorado,
megachurch Sunday afternoon, killing one person and wounding four others before
being killed by a security staff member, the city's police chief said.
Chief Richard Myers called the person "a courageous security staff member who
probably saved many lives today."
He said some of the shooting victims being treated at the hospital have
life-threatening injuries.
Several "suspicious devices" were found at the church, Myers said.
SWAT teams were clearing the multiple buildings at New Life Church, along with
an explosives unit, he said.
Rev. Brady Boyd, senior pastor of New Life Church, said the church had a
security plan in place.
"I'm proud of the way our team responded today," he said. "Many, many lives were
saved because of the quick action of some committed volunteers at our church."
Watch as a church member describes what he saw »
Police know neither the motive for the attack nor of any relationship between
the suspect and the victims.
Police spokesman Lt. Fletcher Howard said area businesses were placed on
lockdown after the shooting "to make sure there's not any other suspects at
large."
The shooting occurred about 12 hours after a shooting at a missionary training
center in Arvada, outside Denver, Colorado, left two people dead and two
wounded. The gunman in that incident was still at large Sunday afternoon.
There was no known connection between the two incidents Sunday afternoon, Howard
said, but he did not rule out that possibility. Arvada and Colorado Springs are
about 80 miles apart.
New Life Church is on the northwestern outskirts of Colorado Springs, near the
U.S. Air Force Academy. The non-denominational church claims a membership of
more than 10,000.
The church was founded by the Rev. Ted Haggard, an evangelical Christian leader
who was ousted in 2006 after allegations that he had been a client of a male
prostitute from whom he had purchased drugs. Haggard admitted to undisclosed
"sexual immorality" and called himself "a deceiver and a liar" in a letter to
the congregation.
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User: "Spaz"

Title: Re: => Gunman shoots 5 at Ted Faggard's Mega-Church <= more American Gun MADNESS! - PRAISE the LORD !! 11 Dec 2007 03:26:08 AM
"_ Prof. Jonez _" <theprof@jonez.net> wrote in message
news:5s3marF171nu1U1@mid.individual.net...

Gunman killed after opening fire at church
a.. NEW: Gunman and one victim dead; four others injured

b.. NEW: Shooter was killed by church "security staff member," police say

So much for preaching Exodus 20:13...

c.. Gunman fired on worshippers at Colorado Springs megachurch

More commonly known as God-mart.
.

User: "_ Prof. Jonez _"

Title: Re: => Gunman shoots 5 at Ted Faggard's Mega-Church <= more American Gun MADNESS! - PRAISE the LORD !! 09 Dec 2007 08:28:16 PM

Gunman killed after opening fire at church
a.. NEW: Gunman and one victim dead; four others injured

b.. NEW: Shooter was killed by church "security staff member,"
police say
c.. Gunman fired on worshippers at Colorado Springs megachurch,
minister says
(CNN) -- A gunman attacked worshippers at a Colorado Springs,
Colorado, megachurch Sunday afternoon, killing one person and
wounding four others before being killed by a security staff member,
the city's police chief said.
Chief Richard Myers called the person "a courageous security staff
member who probably saved many lives today."

He said some of the shooting victims being treated at the hospital
have life-threatening injuries.

Several "suspicious devices" were found at the church, Myers said.

SWAT teams were clearing the multiple buildings at New Life Church,
along with an explosives unit, he said.

Rev. Brady Boyd, senior pastor of New Life Church, said the church
had a security plan in place.

"I'm proud of the way our team responded today," he said. "Many, many
lives were saved because of the quick action of some committed
volunteers at our church." Watch as a church member describes what he
saw »
Police know neither the motive for the attack nor of any relationship
between the suspect and the victims.

Police spokesman Lt. Fletcher Howard said area businesses were placed
on lockdown after the shooting "to make sure there's not any other
suspects at large."

The shooting occurred about 12 hours after a shooting at a missionary
training center in Arvada, outside Denver, Colorado, left two people
dead and two wounded. The gunman in that incident was still at large
Sunday afternoon.
There was no known connection between the two incidents Sunday
afternoon, Howard said, but he did not rule out that possibility.
Arvada and Colorado Springs are about 80 miles apart.

New Life Church is on the northwestern outskirts of Colorado Springs,
near the U.S. Air Force Academy. The non-denominational church claims
a membership of more than 10,000.

The church was founded by the Rev. Ted Haggard, an evangelical
Christian leader who was ousted in 2006 after allegations that he had
been a client of a male prostitute from whom he had purchased drugs.
Haggard admitted to undisclosed "sexual immorality" and called
himself "a deceiver and a liar" in a letter to the congregation.

.

User: "Seon Ferguson"

Title: Re: => Gunman shoots 5 at Ted Faggard's Mega-Church <= more American Gun MADNESS! - PRAISE the LORD !! 09 Dec 2007 10:14:23 PM
Is this "mega church" anything like Fred Phillips Church? If so God works in
mysterious ways.
"_ Prof. Jonez _" <theprof@jonez.net> wrote in message
news:5s3marF171nu1U1@mid.individual.net...

Gunman killed after opening fire at church
a.. NEW: Gunman and one victim dead; four others injured

b.. NEW: Shooter was killed by church "security staff member," police say

c.. Gunman fired on worshippers at Colorado Springs megachurch, minister
says

(CNN) -- A gunman attacked worshippers at a Colorado Springs, Colorado,
megachurch Sunday afternoon, killing one person and wounding four others
before being killed by a security staff member, the city's police chief
said.

Chief Richard Myers called the person "a courageous security staff member
who probably saved many lives today."

He said some of the shooting victims being treated at the hospital have
life-threatening injuries.

Several "suspicious devices" were found at the church, Myers said.

SWAT teams were clearing the multiple buildings at New Life Church, along
with an explosives unit, he said.

Rev. Brady Boyd, senior pastor of New Life Church, said the church had a
security plan in place.

"I'm proud of the way our team responded today," he said. "Many, many
lives were saved because of the quick action of some committed volunteers
at our church." Watch as a church member describes what he saw »

Police know neither the motive for the attack nor of any relationship
between the suspect and the victims.

Police spokesman Lt. Fletcher Howard said area businesses were placed on
lockdown after the shooting "to make sure there's not any other suspects
at large."

The shooting occurred about 12 hours after a shooting at a missionary
training center in Arvada, outside Denver, Colorado, left two people dead
and two wounded. The gunman in that incident was still at large Sunday
afternoon.

There was no known connection between the two incidents Sunday afternoon,
Howard said, but he did not rule out that possibility. Arvada and Colorado
Springs are about 80 miles apart.

New Life Church is on the northwestern outskirts of Colorado Springs, near
the U.S. Air Force Academy. The non-denominational church claims a
membership of more than 10,000.

The church was founded by the Rev. Ted Haggard, an evangelical Christian
leader who was ousted in 2006 after allegations that he had been a client
of a male prostitute from whom he had purchased drugs. Haggard admitted to
undisclosed "sexual immorality" and called himself "a deceiver and a liar"
in a letter to the congregation.



.
User: "Geoff"

Title: Re: => Gunman shoots 5 at Ted Faggard's Mega-Church <= more American Gun MADNESS! - PRAISE the LORD !! 10 Dec 2007 08:01:19 AM
Seon Ferguson wrote:

Is this "mega church" anything like Fred Phillips Church? If so God
works in mysterious ways.

Who is Fred Phillips? Do you mean Fred Phelps? As wacky as any person is to
attend a megachurch, none of them even appraches the sheer insanity of
Westboro Baptist.
.


User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: => Gunman shoots 5 at Ted Faggard's Mega-Church <= moreAmerican Gun MADNESS! - PRAISE the LORD !! 10 Dec 2007 09:45:20 AM
On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 19:24:25 -0700, _ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:

Gunman killed after opening fire at church
a.. NEW: Gunman and one victim dead; four others injured

b.. NEW: Shooter was killed by church "security staff member," police
say

c.. Gunman fired on worshippers at Colorado Springs megachurch,
minister says

(CNN) -- A gunman attacked worshippers at a Colorado Springs, Colorado,
megachurch Sunday afternoon, killing one person and wounding four others
before being killed by a security staff member, the city's police chief
said.

Now, see, this is why I think they should let people take guns to church.
Then they could get into a good old fashioned, wild west shoot 'em up!
<eg>
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
“Man's limitations are also visible in his gods. Yahveh
seems to have had His hands full with the Devil from
the start. His plans for Adam and Eve went to pot,
and He failed again with Noah. His worst failure came
when He sent His only-begotten Son into the world to
rescue man from sin. It would be hard to imagine any
scheme falling further from success.”
- H. L. Mencken
.

User: "_ Prof. Jonez _"

Title: Re: => Gunman shoots 5 at Ted Faggard's Mega-Church <= more American Gun MADNESS! - PRAISE the LORD !! 10 Dec 2007 12:32:44 PM
Rodney Long wrote:

_ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:

Gunman killed after opening fire at church


a.. NEW: Gunman and one victim dead; four others injured

b.. NEW: Shooter was killed by church "security staff member,"
police say



Chances are high this "security staff member" is just an unpaid armed
member of the church, Many "high profile" churches have armed members
at their doors, just for this type of situation. Nearly every Jewish
Temple has them . These churches use off duty police officers, if
they have them as members, if they don't have any, they have other
members who have LTC do this, and the huge churches have both. Few
have uniformed security with any type of training. Just shows you
another reason not to ban handguns, look at the number of lives that
were saved yesterday, one man with a handgun, saved what, 30, 40, 100
people, we will never know

How many armed Apostles did Jesus have ?
.
User: "Topp@Work"

Title: Re: => Gunman shoots 5 at Ted Faggard's Mega-Church <= more American Gun MADNESS! - PRAISE the LORD !! 10 Dec 2007 01:29:20 PM
"_ Prof. Jonez _" <theprof@jonez.net> wrote in message
news:5s5f2fF17os1eU1@mid.individual.net...

Rodney Long wrote:

_ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:

Gunman killed after opening fire at church


a.. NEW: Gunman and one victim dead; four others injured

b.. NEW: Shooter was killed by church "security staff member,"
police say



Chances are high this "security staff member" is just an unpaid armed
member of the church, Many "high profile" churches have armed members
at their doors, just for this type of situation. Nearly every Jewish
Temple has them . These churches use off duty police officers, if
they have them as members, if they don't have any, they have other
members who have LTC do this, and the huge churches have both. Few
have uniformed security with any type of training. Just shows you
another reason not to ban handguns, look at the number of lives that
were saved yesterday, one man with a handgun, saved what, 30, 40, 100
people, we will never know


How many armed Apostles did Jesus have ?

12.
They carried swords
.
User: "_ Prof. Jonez _"

Title: Re: => Gunman shoots 5 at Ted Faggard's Mega-Church <= more American Gun MADNESS! - PRAISE the LORD !! 11 Dec 2007 02:59:29 PM
Topp@Work wrote:

"_ Prof. Jonez _" <theprof@jonez.net> wrote in message
news:5s5f2fF17os1eU1@mid.individual.net...

Rodney Long wrote:

_ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:

Gunman killed after opening fire at church


a.. NEW: Gunman and one victim dead; four others injured

b.. NEW: Shooter was killed by church "security staff member,"
police say



Chances are high this "security staff member" is just an unpaid
armed member of the church, Many "high profile" churches have armed
members at their doors, just for this type of situation. Nearly
every Jewish Temple has them . These churches use off duty police
officers, if they have them as members, if they don't have any,
they have other members who have LTC do this, and the huge churches
have both. Few have uniformed security with any type of training.
Just shows you another reason not to ban handguns, look at the
number of lives that were saved yesterday, one man with a handgun,
saved what, 30, 40, 100 people, we will never know


How many armed Apostles did Jesus have ?


12.
They carried swords

And how'd that work out for them ...in the end ?
.

User: "Rodney Long"

Title: Re: => Gunman shoots 5 at Ted Faggard's Mega-Church <= more AmericanGun MADNESS! - PRAISE the LORD !! 10 Dec 2007 01:50:57 PM
Topp@Work wrote:

"_ Prof. Jonez _" <theprof@jonez.net> wrote in message
news:5s5f2fF17os1eU1@mid.individual.net...

Rodney Long wrote:

_ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:

Gunman killed after opening fire at church
a.. NEW: Gunman and one victim dead; four others injured

b.. NEW: Shooter was killed by church "security staff member,"
police say


Chances are high this "security staff member" is just an unpaid armed
member of the church, Many "high profile" churches have armed members
at their doors, just for this type of situation. Nearly every Jewish
Temple has them . These churches use off duty police officers, if
they have them as members, if they don't have any, they have other
members who have LTC do this, and the huge churches have both. Few
have uniformed security with any type of training. Just shows you
another reason not to ban handguns, look at the number of lives that
were saved yesterday, one man with a handgun, saved what, 30, 40, 100
people, we will never know

How many armed Apostles did Jesus have ?


12.
They carried swords


Well they only had two the night of his arrest
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User: "SaPeIsMa"

Title: Re: => Gunman shoots 5 at Ted Faggard's Mega-Church <= more American Gun MADNESS! - PRAISE the LORD !! 10 Dec 2007 03:17:08 PM
"Rodney Long" <rdlong@charter.net> wrote in message
news:HMg7j.37$YL.3@newsfe05.lga...

Topp@Work wrote:

"_ Prof. Jonez _" <theprof@jonez.net> wrote in message
news:5s5f2fF17os1eU1@mid.individual.net...

Rodney Long wrote:

_ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:

Gunman killed after opening fire at church
a.. NEW: Gunman and one victim dead; four others injured

b.. NEW: Shooter was killed by church "security staff member,"
police say


Chances are high this "security staff member" is just an unpaid armed
member of the church, Many "high profile" churches have armed members
at their doors, just for this type of situation. Nearly every Jewish
Temple has them . These churches use off duty police officers, if
they have them as members, if they don't have any, they have other
members who have LTC do this, and the huge churches have both. Few
have uniformed security with any type of training. Just shows you
another reason not to ban handguns, look at the number of lives that
were saved yesterday, one man with a handgun, saved what, 30, 40, 100
people, we will never know

How many armed Apostles did Jesus have ?


12.
They carried swords



Well they only had two the night of his arrest

But that's also the night he told them to sell their cloaks if they didn't
have a sword
See Luke 22:36
.



User: "cactus"

Title: Re: => Gunman shoots 5 at Ted Faggard's Mega-Church <= more AmericanGun MADNESS! - PRAISE the LORD !! 10 Dec 2007 12:58:09 PM
_ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:

Rodney Long wrote:

_ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:

Gunman killed after opening fire at church
a.. NEW: Gunman and one victim dead; four others injured

b.. NEW: Shooter was killed by church "security staff member,"
police say


Chances are high this "security staff member" is just an unpaid armed
member of the church, Many "high profile" churches have armed members
at their doors, just for this type of situation. Nearly every Jewish
Temple has them . These churches use off duty police officers, if
they have them as members, if they don't have any, they have other
members who have LTC do this, and the huge churches have both. Few
have uniformed security with any type of training. Just shows you
another reason not to ban handguns, look at the number of lives that
were saved yesterday, one man with a handgun, saved what, 30, 40, 100
people, we will never know


How many armed Apostles did Jesus have ?


AFAIK, all of Jesus of Nazareth's alleged apostles had two arms each.
.
User: "SaPeIsMa"

Title: Re: => Gunman shoots 5 at Ted Faggard's Mega-Church <= more American Gun MADNESS! - PRAISE the LORD !! 10 Dec 2007 03:16:09 PM
"cactus" <cactus@nonespam.com> wrote in message
news:6%f7j.4721$Dt4.315@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net...

_ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:

Rodney Long wrote:

_ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:

Gunman killed after opening fire at church
a.. NEW: Gunman and one victim dead; four others injured

b.. NEW: Shooter was killed by church "security staff member,"
police say


Chances are high this "security staff member" is just an unpaid armed
member of the church, Many "high profile" churches have armed members
at their doors, just for this type of situation. Nearly every Jewish
Temple has them . These churches use off duty police officers, if
they have them as members, if they don't have any, they have other
members who have LTC do this, and the huge churches have both. Few
have uniformed security with any type of training. Just shows you
another reason not to ban handguns, look at the number of lives that
were saved yesterday, one man with a handgun, saved what, 30, 40, 100
people, we will never know


How many armed Apostles did Jesus have ?


AFAIK, all of Jesus of Nazareth's alleged apostles had two arms each.

And if they followed the order that Jesus gave them in Luke 22:36, they also
had a sword, and maybe no cloak, if they had to sell it to get a sword
.
User: "duh"

Title: Re: => Gunman shoots 5 at Ted Faggard's Mega-Church <= moreAmerican Gun MADNESS! - PRAISE the LORD !! 10 Dec 2007 06:15:38 PM
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 15:16:09 -0600
"SaPeIsMa" <SaPeIsMa@Hotmail.com> wrote:

How many armed Apostles did Jesus have ?


AFAIK, all of Jesus of Nazareth's alleged apostles had two arms
each.

Ahem. There were twelve apostles. They most likely had two arms
each. So there were twelve two-armed apostles.

And if they followed the

order that Jesus gave them in Luke 22:36,

they also had a sword, and maybe no cloak, if they had to sell it to
get a sword

And in Luke 22:38 the Apostles replied that they already had two swords,
and Jesus answers that is enough.
So there were twelve two-armed apostles with two arms among them.
Most likely there were two armed apostles, unless one of them carried
both swords.
.

User: "_ Prof. Jonez _"

Title: Re: => Gunman shoots 5 at Ted Faggard's Mega-Church <= more American Gun MADNESS! - PRAISE the LORD !! 11 Dec 2007 02:58:27 PM
SaPeIsMa wrote:

"cactus" <cactus@nonespam.com> wrote in message
news:6%f7j.4721$Dt4.315@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net...

_ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:

Rodney Long wrote:

_ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:

Gunman killed after opening fire at church
a.. NEW: Gunman and one victim dead; four others injured

b.. NEW: Shooter was killed by church "security staff member,"
police say


Chances are high this "security staff member" is just an unpaid armed
member of the church, Many "high profile" churches have
armed members at their doors, just for this type of situation.
Nearly every Jewish Temple has them . These churches use off duty
police officers, if they have them as members, if they don't have
any, they have other members who have LTC do this, and the huge
churches have both. Few have uniformed security with any type of
training. Just shows you another reason not to ban handguns, look
at the number of lives that were saved yesterday, one man with a
handgun, saved what, 30, 40, 100 people, we will never know


How many armed Apostles did Jesus have ?


AFAIK, all of Jesus of Nazareth's alleged apostles had two arms each.


And if they followed the order that Jesus gave them in Luke 22:36,
they also had a sword, and maybe no cloak, if they had to sell it to
get a sword

LOL!
Maybe you aren't a 100% lowlife cowardly war-mongering chickenhawk
lying piece of Repugnikkkan ***** after all ...
.



User: "Anonymouse"

Title: Re: => Gunman shoots 5 at Ted Faggard's Mega-Church <= more AmericanGun MADNESS! - PRAISE the LORD !! 12 Dec 2007 01:43:39 PM
_ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:

Rodney Long wrote:

_ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:

Gunman killed after opening fire at church
a.. NEW: Gunman and one victim dead; four others injured

b.. NEW: Shooter was killed by church "security staff member,"
police say


Chances are high this "security staff member" is just an unpaid armed
member of the church, Many "high profile" churches have armed members
at their doors, just for this type of situation. Nearly every Jewish
Temple has them . These churches use off duty police officers, if
they have them as members, if they don't have any, they have other
members who have LTC do this, and the huge churches have both. Few
have uniformed security with any type of training. Just shows you
another reason not to ban handguns, look at the number of lives that
were saved yesterday, one man with a handgun, saved what, 30, 40, 100
people, we will never know


How many armed Apostles did Jesus have ?


all those that headed his message to those that didn't have a sword to
sell their possessions and buy one.
.

User: "Peter Franks"

Title: Re: => Gunman shoots 5 at Ted Faggard's Mega-Church <= more AmericanGun MADNESS! - PRAISE the LORD !! 10 Dec 2007 12:50:45 PM
_ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:

Rodney Long wrote:

_ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:

Gunman killed after opening fire at church
a.. NEW: Gunman and one victim dead; four others injured

b.. NEW: Shooter was killed by church "security staff member,"
police say


Chances are high this "security staff member" is just an unpaid armed
member of the church, Many "high profile" churches have armed members
at their doors, just for this type of situation. Nearly every Jewish
Temple has them . These churches use off duty police officers, if
they have them as members, if they don't have any, they have other
members who have LTC do this, and the huge churches have both. Few
have uniformed security with any type of training. Just shows you
another reason not to ban handguns, look at the number of lives that
were saved yesterday, one man with a handgun, saved what, 30, 40, 100
people, we will never know


How many armed Apostles did Jesus have ?

Relevance?
.
User: "_ Prof. Jonez _"

Title: Re: => Gunman shoots 5 at Ted Faggard's Mega-Church <= more American Gun MADNESS! - PRAISE the LORD !! 11 Dec 2007 02:56:49 PM
Peter Franks wrote:

_ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:

Rodney Long wrote:

_ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:

Gunman killed after opening fire at church
a.. NEW: Gunman and one victim dead; four others injured

b.. NEW: Shooter was killed by church "security staff member,"
police say


Chances are high this "security staff member" is just an unpaid armed member
of the church, Many "high profile" churches have armed
members at their doors, just for this type of situation. Nearly
every Jewish Temple has them . These churches use off duty police
officers, if they have them as members, if they don't have any,
they have other members who have LTC do this, and the huge churches
have both. Few have uniformed security with any type of training.
Just shows you another reason not to ban handguns, look at the
number of lives that were saved yesterday, one man with a handgun,
saved what, 30, 40, 100 people, we will never know


How many armed Apostles did Jesus have ?


Relevance?

Ignorance?
.
User: "Peter Franks"

Title: Re: => Gunman shoots 5 at Ted Faggard's Mega-Church <= more AmericanGun MADNESS! - PRAISE the LORD !! 11 Dec 2007 05:23:36 PM
_ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:

Peter Franks wrote:

_ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:

Rodney Long wrote:

_ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:

Gunman killed after opening fire at church
a.. NEW: Gunman and one victim dead; four others injured

b.. NEW: Shooter was killed by church "security staff member,"
police say

Chances are high this "security staff member" is just an unpaid armed member
of the church, Many "high profile" churches have armed
members at their doors, just for this type of situation. Nearly
every Jewish Temple has them . These churches use off duty police
officers, if they have them as members, if they don't have any,
they have other members who have LTC do this, and the huge churches
have both. Few have uniformed security with any type of training.
Just shows you another reason not to ban handguns, look at the
number of lives that were saved yesterday, one man with a handgun,
saved what, 30, 40, 100 people, we will never know

How many armed Apostles did Jesus have ?

Relevance?


Ignorance?

On your part? Ok, if you say so.
.



User: "Rodney Long"

Title: Re: => Gunman shoots 5 at Ted Faggard's Mega-Church <= more AmericanGun MADNESS! - PRAISE the LORD !! 10 Dec 2007 01:49:36 PM
_ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:


Chances are high this "security staff member" is just an unpaid armed
member of the church, Many "high profile" churches have armed members
at their doors, just for this type of situation. Nearly every Jewish
Temple has them . These churches use off duty police officers, if
they have them as members, if they don't have any, they have other
members who have LTC do this, and the huge churches have both. Few
have uniformed security with any type of training. Just shows you
another reason not to ban handguns, look at the number of lives that
were saved yesterday, one man with a handgun, saved what, 30, 40, 100
people, we will never know


How many armed Apostles did Jesus have ?

Just 2
The night of his arrest he told them all to go out and buy swords, they
replied and said they had 2, and Christ said that was enough
Peter used his that night
Man you can tell when someone really does not know the Bible, you were
thinking none



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User: "Rodney Long"

Title: Re: => Gunman shoots 5 at Ted Faggard's Mega-Church <= more AmericanGun MADNESS! - PRAISE the LORD !! 10 Dec 2007 02:11:50 PM
Rodney Long wrote:

_ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:


Chances are high this "security staff member" is just an unpaid armed
member of the church, Many "high profile" churches have armed members
at their doors, just for this type of situation. Nearly every Jewish
Temple has them . These churches use off duty police officers, if
they have them as members, if they don't have any, they have other
members who have LTC do this, and the huge churches have both. Few
have uniformed security with any type of training. Just shows you
another reason not to ban handguns, look at the number of lives that
were saved yesterday, one man with a handgun, saved what, 30, 40, 100
people, we will never know

I see my hunch was right
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/12/10/colorado.shootings/?imw=Y&iref=mpstoryemail
A New Life parishioner acting as a security guard shot and killed the
gunman who entered the church Sunday afternoon after he had gotten no
more than 50 feet inside the building, Boyd said.
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