Religions > Atheism > => Hey Spammy! - if Pat Tillman isn't with "god" ... where in the hell is he?
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=> Hey Spammy! - if Pat Tillman isn't with "god" ... where in the hell is he? |
Ex-Football Star Killed in Afghanistan - Official
Fri, Apr 23, 2004
"Writing in the San Francisco Chronicle Gwen Knapp reports Richard
Tillman, Pat's brother, taking offense at remarks that Pat Tillman was
now with God:
'Pat isn't with God. He's fucking dead. He wasn't
religious. So thank you for your thoughts, but he's fucking dead.' "
"Lisa Olson, in an article in the 4 May 2004 New York Daily News,
writes about the comments of Richard Tillman, 'At one point, Richard
burst forth with a stream-of-consciousness tribute, insisting Pat did
not believe in religion, that he was not with God, that he was just
dead. A war veteran standing not far from the stage bristled, while
others cheered.'"
Links to these stories are here:
http://www.humaniststudies.org/enews/index.html?id=135&lid=806#n1
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| Title: Re: => Hey Spammy! - if Pat Tillman isn't with "god" ... where inthe hell is he? |
15 May 2004 01:55:23 PM |
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=> Vox Populi © wrote:
Whereas the Constitution of the United States of America defines the act
of treason as:
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"Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in
levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them
aid and comfort."
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This public entreaty for the arrest and prosecution of the individual
posting repeated statements and propaganda on the Usenet specifically
designed to give aid and comfort to the enemies of the United States of
America and identified by Usenet message headers as "Vox Populi", using
the ip address of: "63.225.110.158" is hereby issued.
The flagrant and repetitive public display of propagandist messages and
rhetoric designed to strengthen and embolden the enemies of this nation
is clear evidence of giving "aid and comfort" to our enemies during the
time of our nation's war on terror.
Despite being publicly advised to cease and desist such flagrant
violations of our Constitution the individual known as "Vox Populi" has
repeatedly and with increasing frequency sought to aid the enemy in
their war against America.
All readers of this indictment are urged to contact the appropriate
authorities and demand the immediate arrest and prosecution of the
individual known as "Vox Populi" for violation of the Constitution of
the United States of America, article 3, section 3.
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"Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in
levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them
aid and comfort."
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| User: "= Vox Populi ©" |
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| Title: Re: => Hey Spammy! - if Pat Tillman isn't with "god" ... where in the hell is he? |
15 May 2004 02:49:05 PM |
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King Samuel wrote:
=> Vox Populi © wrote:
Whereas King Spammy burned his little brain
on the visual images of Nick Berg getting his head
slowly sawn off with a dull knife ...
Wassa matta Spammy, can't get those screams of
terror and death out of your head? Did you have skaawy
nightmares ..? Just visualize that horror 776 times over,
in your mind, as each and every one of those hapless
young and dumb U$ troops were slaughtered for your
neo-con lies, 776 screams of terror, 776 fools realizing
at their last pain-filled moments in life that their lives
were completely wasted for some lying multi-millionaire
corrupt politicians greed and avarice ... Now visualize
those same screams and horror 15,000 times over, as
the Iraqi civilians, women, children and babies were slaughtered.
crushed and burned alive by invading U$ forces ...
You are a worthless cowardly maggot Spammy, a gutless
neo-***** scumbag. May just 10% of the horror and pain
you have supported upon others visit you and your family for
the rest of your miserable pathetic lives.
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| User: "King Samuel" |
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| Title: Re: => Hey Spammy! - if Pat Tillman isn't with "god" ... where inthe hell is he? |
15 May 2004 02:56:14 PM |
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=> Vox Populi © wrote:
Whereas the Constitution of the United States of America defines the act
of treason as:
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"Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in
levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them
aid and comfort."
****************************************************************************
This public entreaty for the arrest and prosecution of the individual
posting repeated statements and propaganda on the Usenet specifically
designed to give aid and comfort to the enemies of the United States of
America and identified by Usenet message headers as "Vox Populi", using
the ip address of: "63.225.110.158" is hereby issued.
The flagrant and repetitive public display of propagandist messages and
rhetoric designed to strengthen and embolden the enemies of this nation
is clear evidence of giving "aid and comfort" to our enemies during the
time of our nation's war on terror.
Despite being publicly advised to cease and desist such flagrant
violations of our Constitution the individual known as "Vox Populi" has
repeatedly and with increasing frequency sought to aid the enemy in
their war against America.
All readers of this indictment are urged to contact the appropriate
authorities and demand the immediate arrest and prosecution of the
individual known as "Vox Populi" for violation of the Constitution of
the United States of America, article 3, section 3.
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"Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in
levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them
aid and comfort."
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| Title: Kook Nomination! & Evidence Re: => King Samuel proves again what a worthless Jackbooted Fascist Scumbag he really is ................ Hey Spammy! - if Pat Tillman isn't with "god" ... where in the hell is he? |
03 Jun 2004 12:46:02 AM |
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In alt.atheism article <Ci6ekAEN71IHfzPdGEt7rJ@giganews.com> King Samuel <stars@bars.usa> wrote:
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03 Jun 2004 10:12:19 AM |
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John M Price PhD wrote:
In alt.atheism article <Ci6ekAEN71IHfzPdGEt7rJ@giganews.com> King Samuel <stars@bars.usa> wrote:
No Dr. Price I did not write that.
Some ardent canuck usenet admirer at the following ip addy. has become
obsessed with the game of forgeries and decided to move his campaign to
this group.
I'll thank you to direct any criticism you may have to the proper
addresses listed below.
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05 Jun 2004 12:20:50 PM |
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King Samuel wrote:
John M Price PhD wrote:
In alt.atheism article <Ci6ekAEN71IHfzPdGEt7rJ@giganews.com> King
Samuel <stars@bars.usa> wrote:
No Dr. Price I did not write that.
Some ardent canuck usenet admirer at the following ip addy. has become
obsessed with the game of forgeries and decided to move his campaign
to this group.
You're lying again Spammy you gutless spamming puke ...
I'll thank you to direct any criticism you may have to the proper
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| User: "= Vox Populi ©" |
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| Title: Re: => Hey Spammy! - if Pat Tillman isn't with "god" ... where in the hell is he? |
15 May 2004 02:59:03 PM |
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King Samuel wrote:
=> Vox Populi © wrote:
Whereas > Whereas King Spammy burned his little brain
on the visual images of Nick Berg getting his head
slowly sawn off with a dull knife ...
Wassa matta Spammy, can't get those screams of
terror and death out of your head? Did you have skaawy
nightmares ..? Just visualize that horror 776 times over,
in your mind, as each and every one of those hapless
young and dumb U$ troops were slaughtered for your
neo-con lies, 776 screams of terror, 776 fools realizing
at their last pain-filled moments in life that their lives
were completely wasted for some lying multi-millionaire
corrupt politicians greed and avarice ... Now visualize
those same screams and horror 15,000 times over, as
the Iraqi civilians, women, children and babies were slaughtered.
crushed and burned alive by invading U$ forces ...
You are a worthless cowardly maggot Spammy, a gutless
neo-***** scumbag. May just 10% of the horror and pain
you have supported upon others visit you and your family for
the rest of your miserable pathetic lives.
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| User: "King Samuel" |
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16 May 2004 12:48:52 AM |
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=> Vox Populi © wrote:
King Samuel wrote:
=> Vox Populi © wrote:
Whereas > Whereas King Spammy burned his little brain
on the visual images of Nick Berg getting his head
slowly sawn off with a dull knife ...
Wassa matta
Nothing a good federal prosecutor cant' right with an indictment for
your continued and flagrant practice of giving "aid and comfort" to our
nation's enemies during this war on terror.
You are a TRAITOR Vox.
You must be arrested, charged, and prosecuted for your TREASON.
And trust me, you surely will be.
You have sealed your fate.
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| User: "= Vox Populi ©" |
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16 May 2004 02:14:50 AM |
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King Samuel wrote:
=> Vox Populi © wrote:
King Samuel wrote:
=> Vox Populi © wrote:
Whereas > Whereas King Spammy burned his little brain
on the visual images of Nick Berg getting his head
slowly sawn off with a dull knife ...
Wassa matta
Nothing a good federal prosecutor cant' right with an indictment for
your continued and flagrant practice of giving "aid and comfort" to
our nation's enemies during this war on terror.
Who are our "nation's enemies" Spammy?
Fascists scumbags like you are surely on that list, and
I have never given lowlife chickenshit cowards like you
any aid nor comfort.
You are a TRAITOR Vox.
To fascist shitstains like you? Well, yes and no.
Since I've never been one of you lowlife fascist shitsuckers,
there is nothing to betray, however you may accuratly consider
me your profound enemy.
You must be arrested, charged, and prosecuted for your TREASON.
In your pathetic dreams, gutless fascist.
And trust me, you surely will be.
You're lying again you spineless chickenhawk coward.
You have sealed your fate.
Still too chickenshit to do anything yourself, eh Spammy?
--
"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our
number one priority and we will not rest until we find him."
~ George Bush Jr. 2001-09-13
"I don't know where he (bin Laden) is. I have no idea and I really
don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
~ George Bush Jr. 2002-03-13
"I was not prepared to shoot my eardrum out with a shotgun in order to
get a deferment. Not was I willing to go to Canada. So I chose to
better myself by learning how to fly airplanes."
~George W. Bush on how he dodged the
Vietnam draft---1994
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16 May 2004 11:20:48 PM |
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17 May 2004 01:37:58 AM |
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King Samuel wrote:You might be interested in knowing that it was in a series
of stories I
wrote in 1976 for the Chicago Tribune that George Mitsushio and Ken Oki
confessed that they had perjured themselves at the trial of Iva Toguri, AKA
"Tokyo Rose." I was the Tribune's Far Eastern Correspondent, based in Tokyo
at the time. I had tracked down Mitsushio and Oki and after several meetings
with them, they told me they had lied at Iva's trial. After my stories
appeared(they were picked up all over the country) the Ford White House
contacted me in Tokyo wanting more information. 60 Minutes did a piece on
Iva and on January 17, 1977 Ford pardoned her.
Best regards,
Ronald E. Yates
http://www.moveon.org/moveonbulletin/bulletin19.html#10
1. Should a special prosecutor investigate charges of racketeering by
members of the Bush administration who personally profited from the war on
Iraq? -- Gerald Kleiner, Middletown, New York, USA
I'm not a lawyer--I'm a defendant --so I consulted movement lawyers, one of
whom helped me look up the RICO Act. Another lawyer who is familiar with
that act confirmed my layman's sense, as I read it, that it would be quite a
stretch, legally, to apply that particular statute to the war-profiteering
of this administration's favorite firms. If you happen on an adventurous
prosecutor who wants to take it on, good luck! But it doesn't really look
like a promising approach.
Your mention of racketeering in this context, though, sent me onto the web
to recapture a staggering quotation by the Marine hero Major General Smedley
Butler, summing up his thirty-years of service largely in U.S.colonial wars
from Nicaragua and Cuba to China: "During that time I spent most of my time
being a high class muscle-man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the
Bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. . . . The
best [Al Capone] could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I
operated on three continents." Look up the whole quote, which would have
been an eye-opener for me if I had read it when I was in the Marines:
www.fas.orçg/man/smedley.htm. Butler doesn't mention there that in colonial
operations in Mexico (Vera Cruz) and Haiti he was awarded two Congressional
Medals of Honor. How many medals will be won, some posthumously, by
pre-enlightened American officers and troops in Iraq and elsewhere, now that
we've extended our protection rackets from the Caribbean to the Persian
Gulf?
My lawyer friend points out that it will be hard to find that businessmen
broke any laws in their current profiteering, since it was effectively
businessmen who wrote the laws. The secret, no-bid contracts awarded to
Cheney's Halliburton and George Shultz's Bechtel (and WorldCom! As Molly
Ivins exposes in her column Friday on the Iraq Gold Rush) certainly deserve
congressional examination. Fat chance. But take the effort to thank
journalists like Ivins and Arianna Huffington who bring sunlight onto these
scavengers and use their information in letters to the editor and call-in
shows, to reopen the discussion of corporate scandals and influence that was
interrupted, not by coincidence, by war on Iraq.
2. There is mounting evidence that the war in Iraq was not based on truth.
Based on your experience, and on your reading of history, is there enough of
a "smoking gun" here to generate an impeachment process??
-- Susan Petry, Durham, North Carolina, USA
The familiar metaphor seems painfully apt here. As the world can see, Uncle
Sam is holding a smoking gun, above a stricken nation in the Middle East;
and despite his claim of self-defense--the need to beat an aggressor to the
draw--no weapons of mass destruction are to be found on the victim. Thanks
to an unprecedented flood of leaks from the intelligence community, it is
increasingly clear that whatever the personal beliefs of the officials
claiming to "know," to be "absolutely convinced" that Saddam Hussein
"possessed weapons" that were an intolerable threat to us and his
neighbors--from Bush and Powell and Rumsfeld to Wolowitz--their statements
about the secret evidential basis for these confident assertions were wildly
misleading.
Those assurances -- which were critical to justifying, on grounds of
"necessity," a "preemptive" war that would otherwise appear blatantly
criminal--look like lies. Exactly so, their claims of "bullet-proof"
evidence of significant links of Iraq to 9-11. If so, we were lied into war.
Tens of thousands of Iraqis --including more innocent civilians than were
murdered (not by Saddam Hussein) on 9-11--were lied to death, along with
American KIA in numbers that are increasing week by week (and will continue
to increase, I believe, every week that George W. Bush and Richard Cheney
remain in office).
That's a serious charge. But I'm prepared to believe it on the basis of my
own experience, not only in Vietnam--which is looking painfully relevant to
our prospects in the occupation of Iraq--but in Washington under Robert
McNamara and President Lyndon Johnson. I watched--and, I'm sorry to say,
kept my mouth shut outside the Pentagon--as they lied Congress into a
delegation of war powers by claiming certainty about an unprovoked attack on
our warships. (See Chapter One of Secrets.)
I knew at the time that the evidence for that attack was highly ambiguous:
just like, it appears, evidence before the war that Saddam still possessed
and had deployed WMD's. In fact, there had been no attack at all, but
Congress scarcely suspected that for years: I didn't tell them, nor did
anyone else in the Executive branch who had reached that conclusion.
Suspicions of the total absence of WMD's have emerged, this time, within
months of the exaggerated claims.
Was that manipulation in 1964 an impeachable offense? I would say flatly
yes: of the most serious kind. Likewise if President Bush and his vice
president and cabinet officers (all, by the way, subject to impeachment) are
guilty of the same misrepresentation of the secret intelligence available to
them in their justification for a war unauthorized by the UN Charter and
Security Council. I personally suspect that's true. That doesn't mean that I
see any prospect whatever that this Republican Congress (or the majority of
these Democrats!) would actually impeach or convict this President for this
war, no matter what evidence is produced. Yet I think it's important for our
democracy, and our security, to argue forcefully right now that lying us
into war--as has happened before--was and would be now a high crime, an
impeachable offense.
So far our evidence that this has happened is almost entirely from leaks (as
was true in 1971, with the Pentagon Papers). Not enough has been disclosed
yet to call credibly for impeachment, which amounts to indictment. To raise
the issue of Executive accountability, yes. To investigate, certainly.
The current MoveOn petition drive has it exactly right: only citizen
pressure on Congress to establish an independent bipartisan commission will
provide a basis for Executive accountability. The currently-planned "review"
in secret sessions of the Senate Intelligence Committee (the Republican
chairman will not even let it be called an "investigation"!), confined to
the performance of the intelligence agencies, will not do that job.
Republicans, under White House pressure, will resist our calls for an
independent commission, or even for open hearings in other relevant
committees. But our own citizens' pressure, which should start now to
investigate how we got into this quagmire and whether there was official
betrayal of the public trust will get harder to resist as weeks and months
go by of continued bloodletting and growing opposition in Iraq to our
occupation.
3. What do we, as a nation, have to do to stop this type of abuse of power,
corruption, conflict of interest, lying, cheating, powermongering, and
fraudulent behavior?
-- N. Webster, Pasadena, California, USA
The founders of our nation, the drafters of our Constitution and Bill of
Rights, had better answers to these age-old problems of Executive abuse of
power than the world had ever seen before, and better than we've been taught
to accept in the last sixty years of Cold War and hot wars. Their distrust
of mortals in power, their insights on the need for checks and balances,
separation of powers, impeachment, constitutional guarantees of citizens'
rights as against legislative or executive authority, have been steadily
obscured and repressed on spurious grounds of national security. The effect
has been to make the president just what the founders meant to prevent: an
elected monarch. Or, as it turns out this year, a nearly-elected monarch.
If monarchy is corrupting--and it is--wait till you see what overt empire
does to us. It's time to read Tom Paine again and wake up from our dreams of
kingship and lording it over others, to reconstruct a republic. The
Constitution, as written and amended, really deserves our loyalty and our
defense, against all enemies foreign and domestic: and this administration
has within it more domestic enemies of the Constitution and Bill of Rights
than any we've seen before. They've got to go; but that's just a start, for
our recovery from an addiction to arms-building and (till just now, covert)
empire.
Only we, the public, can force our representatives to reverse their
abdication of the war powers that the Constitution gives exclusively to the
Congress. (See Abraham Lincoln--before he became president himself--writing
from Congress in 1848: "The provision of the Constitution giving the
war-making power to Congress was dictated, as I understand it, by the
following reasons: Kings had always been involving and impoverishing their
people in wars, pretending generally, if not always, that the good of the
people was the object. This our convention understood to be the most
oppressive of all kingly oppressions, and they resolved to so frame the
Constitution that no one man should hold the power of bringing this
oppression upon us." (http://www.watchpost.org/lincoln.htm)
Except for 123 House members and 23 Senators, the members of Congress,
Republican and Democratic (including several presidential candidates)
covered themselves with shame by giving the president, with no hearings and
scant deliberation or debate, an undated, unconstitutional, declaration of
war. This was some improvement over 1964--when only two Senators voted
against the equivalent Tonkin Gulf Resolution--and considerably better than
their own performance one year earlier in September, 2001, when exactly one
lawmaker, Barbara Lee of Oakland, had the conscience and courage to vote
against giving the president, without prior hearings or debate,
almost-unlimited power to go to war (in Afghanistan, or wherever he might
claim a link to 9-11: Rumsfeld, we now know, wanted invade Iraq right away,
but was put off).
But in 2001 and 2002 the majority didn't even have the excuse that the
president had lied to them, like Lyndon Johnson in 1964, about his intent to
cash this blank check for war. (Bush appears to have lied only about his
reasons). The Vietnam quagmire got Congress to enact (over Nixon's veto) the
War Powers Act, which remained an abdication of the constitutional
responsibilities of Congress and which subsequently elected kings all
ignored. With the Iraq fiasco (as I believe it will soon appear) let's
educate our fellow citizens to demand a return to the Constitution.
4. When fear and patriotism is used to keep people from questioning the
government, how do you break through that barrier to show Americans the
importance of questioning and demanding truth and accurate information?
-- April Cartright, Lake Worth, Florida, USA
Why did not one of Barbara Lee's Congressional colleagues -- many of whom
had districts as safe as hers -- join her in voting against an
unconstitutional delegation of their war powers, without deliberation? Many
of them, she told me, had assured her they would vote with her up till the
moment of the vote; she was startled to find herself alone. Her guess was
that they were afraid, at the moment of truth, to be accused, however unjust
ly, of lack of patriotism, of disloyalty to the president, even of treason.
(She got all those charges. They were nearly all from outside her own
district. But those words aren't easy for any American, or anyone, to hear:
as I can testify). But she did what she knew was right. And courage is
contagious. A year later, against the next Tonkin Gulf-like Resolution for
Iraq, she and Dennis Kucinich organized 123 votes in favor of the
Constitution.
Lincoln's comment above related to what he saw as President Polk's illegal
and deceptive provocation of war with Mexico, which he opposed as a
Congressman. His later Commander of the Union Army, Ulysses S. Grant, saw
that war the same way, when he participated in it as a second lieutenant. In
his memoirs he described that war as "one of the most unjust ever waged by a
stronger against a weaker nation. It was an instance of a republic following
the bad example of European monarchies, in not considering justice in their
desire to acquire additional territory."
He describes the process of getting into a war of aggression against Mexico
in terms very familiar to me from our "reprisal" against the supposed Tonkin
Gulf attack and later "retaliation" for attacks at Pleiku and Qui Nhon, and
their effects on Congressional opposition:
"We were sent to provoke a fight, but it was essential that Mexico should
commence it. It was very doubtful whether Congress would declare war; but if
Mexico should attack our troops, the executive could announce, 'Whereas, war
exists by the acts of, etc.,' and prosecute the contest with vigor. Once
initiated there were but few public men who would have the courage to oppose
it. Experience proves that the man who obstructs a war in which his nation
is engaged, no matter whether right or wrong, occupied no enviable place in
life or history. Better for him, individually, to advocate 'war, pestilence,
and famine,' than to act as obstructionist to a war already begun."
(http://home.nycap.rr.com/history/grant1.html#Ch-4)
A quote on the subject by Hermann Goering, Hitler's deputy in the Nazi
regime, has been going around the Internet over the last six months, but
usually in a truncated form that leaves out its direct reference to U.S.
democracy. Here's the whole quote, from Nuremberg Diary (pp. 278-279) by G.
M. Gilbert, an Army intelligence officer who interviewed Goering in prison
during his trial at Nuremberg in 1946:
"We got around to the subject of war again and I said that, contrary to his
attitude, I did not think that the common people are very thankful for
leaders who bring them war and destruction.
"'Why, of course, the people don't want war,' Goering shrugged. 'Why would
some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that
he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece. Naturally,
the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in
America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all,
it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a
simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a
fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship.
"'There is one difference,' I pointed out. 'In a democracy the people have
some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the
United States only Congress can declare wars.
"'Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can
always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have
to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for
lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way
in any country." (www.wnopes.com/quotes/goering.htm)
At this moment, many of us firmly believe, it is the policies of our
president and his advisors, not our own skepticism and protest, that are
exposing this country to increased danger: danger of initiating unnecessary,
illegal and stalemated or escalating wars; danger of vengeful terrorist
attacks (exploiting U.S. vulnerabilities he has neglected to mend and a flow
of recruits his wars will swell); and increased danger of nuclear
proliferation, eventually to such terrorist groups.
There is a personal and national price to be paid by silence and passive
obedience, in the face of such folly, that is greater than the pain of being
called names, greater even than the loss of a job or career. It is the price
of participating in and failing to expose and resist national disasters,
unnecessary and wrongful wars. That was the price--of accepting a definition
of patriotism as unquestioning support of national Executive
leadership--paid by nearly all citizens in Hitler's Germany, Tojo's and
Emperor Hirohito's Japan, in the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan and the U.S.
invasion of Vietnam: and now Iraq.
Granted, it took a very high degree of courage to act otherwise in the
police states that existed in all these examples at the time of their
aggressions (except for those of the U.S.) That's all the more reason why it
's up to us--it's time for us--to prove Goering wrong: it doesn't have to
"work that way" in our country.
5. How can we best convince the public that they're being
deceived?---Rosemarie Pilkington
By spreading the word in every way-in email to our friends, letters to the
editor, call-ins to talk radio, in every discussion and argument-that they
can inform themselves on matters of public policy far better on the Internet
than on American TV, mainstream radio (including NPR) or any individual
newspaper. The last six months of an extended book tour and political
lecturing and activism all over the country has revealed to me that the
large minority of Americans opposed to the Iraq war--largely Internet users,
I strongly suspect--live in an entirely different world of information from
those who actively or passively supported the war, who rely almost entirely
on presidential declarations and sources strikingly shaped by official spin.
Daily on the websites like antiwar.com, commondreams.org, buzzflash.com, I
find a compilation of critical, relevant, informative news stories and
editorial comment from all over the country and abroad which adds up, over
time, to something closer to an adequate understanding of current policies
and events than was ever available to any public in the past.
Ironically, most of the items on these sites do come, after all, from
mainstream newspapers in America; but the impact of access to a broad
collection of probing or critical stories on a daily basis is very different
from reading one or two such analyses or stories in a given hometown
newspaper, even a relatively good one. Moreover, through these sites and
through direct links to the British Guardian, the Independent, the BBC and
CBC (far better than American public radio or TV), and other international
news sources in English, Americans can have access not only to other points
of view but to news and commentary that is often better informed than we can
get in mainstream sources at home.
So the answer to the question (and a number of others like it) is: we should
do what we can to expand the daily readership of these sites, and others
like them, enormously. Our ability to publicize and expand these sources of
information is the informational and educational equivalent of the
organizational tactics of MoveOn, United for Peace, and other activist
sites.
Still, it's very hard to get the majority of people in this country, like
any other, to believe that their elected leaders are dangerously deceiving
them (routine as that actually is: a secret well-kept by insiders who want
to remain or come back as insiders). To get them to accept that-to believe
it to the point that they will take up the burdens and risks of opposing
that leadership in committed and effective ways-takes unusual evidence. It
takes more than news stories citing unidentified or unofficial sources, even
from those who were recently insiders. It takes documents: large amounts of
them. And in the "national security" realm, such documents (above all, those
demonstrating deception of the public, or major errors, or possible crimes)
will be classified. Congressional hearings can get at some of those, but
only up to a point; any administration will strive, usually successfully, to
keep such documents (or testimony relating to them) away from Congress
altogether, or to postpone their release to the public till they are no
longer dramatically pertinent.
MoveOn member Andy Ayers has asked me: "Are we dependent on another
whistle-blower insider this administration" to act as I did with the
Pentagon Papers in 1971? My answer is yes, but with a difference. I would
say-as I have been saying since last September to every audience I've
addressed, in hopes my message may reach their friends and relatives in the
federal government-we need someone to act as I should have done, but did
not, long before 1971, when the documents in my safe were current. As
Senator Wayne Morse, one of the two senators who voted against the Tonkin
Gulf Resolution, told me in 1971: "If you had given me [on the Senate
Foreign Relations Committee] those cables in 1964, the Tonkin Gulf
Resolution would never have gotten out of the committee; and if it did, it
would have been voted down on the floor."
"Don't do what I did; don't wait till the bombs are falling," I was saying
to potential listeners in government from October through mid-March. "If you
know that your bosses and the President are lying about their reasons for
this war, or about what they are being told about its prospects and danger
and costs, and if you possess documents that demonstrate that, I urge you to
consider doing what I wish I had done in 1964 or 1965 instead of six years
later: go to Congress and the press, with those documents, and tell the
truth."
We are hearing now important leaks, mostly anonymous, complaining of undue
administration pressure on intelligence estimates and of misrepresentation
and misuse of intelligence. It would have been helpful to hear more of those
earlier, but I'm in no position to criticize; as my memoir spells out, it
took me years of war to reach that point or go beyond it, and when I did I
no longer had access to documents that bore on current White House
decision-making. (If I had, I would have released those instead of the
history in the Pentagon Papers).
It's possible for others in the government now to do better than that. To
kick-start a stalled process of Congressional investigation, and the public
campaign of pressure to pursue those investigations, someone with official
access must take the responsibility for releasing, without higher
authorization, hundreds or thousands of pages of documents they believe, on
their experienced judgment, would demonstrate official deception or
wrongdoing, without harming national security. I'm confident there are men
and women in this administration with access to documents of that nature and
with the personal courage and sense of conscience and patriotism to do that,
if they reflect on that possibility and the stakes involved. It would mean
risking or sacrificing their clearances and careers, perhaps going to
prison. It could save several wars' worth of lives, and democracy in this
country.
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"We are going to fight them and impose our will
on them and we will capture or, if necessary, kill
them until we have imposed law and order upon
this country,"
-- US Viceroy Paul Bremer,
how U$A is going to win 'hearts and minds'
of the subjugated people of Iraq
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17 May 2004 10:32:04 AM |
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=> Vox Populi © wrote:
http://www.fbi.gov/libref/historic/famcases/rose/rose.htm
In November 1943, Toguri began her career as a broadcaster for Radio
Tokyo that was to bring her notoriety and eventually result in her
conviction for treason in the United States. Her program, known as the
Zero Hour, became part of Japanese psychological warfare designed to
lower the morale of the United States Armed Forces. Zero Hour was
broadcast daily, except Sunday, from 6 p.m. until 7:15 p.m., Tokyo time.
The Zero Hour
Toguri was introduced on the program, which usually began with band
music, as "Orphan Ann," "Orphan Annie," "Your favorite enemy Ann," or
"Your favorite playmate and enemy, Ann." Following are comments
reportedly made by Toguri for a program broadcast in October 1944:
"Hello, boneheads. This is your favorite enemy, Ann. How are all you
orphans of the Pacific? Are you enjoying yourselves while your wives and
sweethearts are running around with the 4F's in the States? How do you
feel now when all your ships have been sunk by the Japanese Navy? How
will you get home? Here's another record to remind you of home."
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17 May 2004 11:50:06 AM |
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King Samuel wrote:
=> Vox Populi © wrote:
http://www.fbi.gov/libref/historic/famcases/rose/rose.htm
In November 1943, Toguri began her career as a broadcaster for Radio ...
You might be interested in knowing that it was in a series
of stories I wrote in 1976 for the Chicago Tribune that
George Mitsushio and Ken Oki confessed that they had
perjured themselves at the trial of Iva Toguri, AKA
"Tokyo Rose." I was the Tribune's Far Eastern Correspondent, based in Tokyo
at the time. I had tracked down Mitsushio and Oki and after several meetings
with them, they told me they had lied at Iva's trial. After my stories
appeared(they were picked up all over the country) the Ford White House
contacted me in Tokyo wanting more information. 60 Minutes did a piece on
Iva and on January 17, 1977 Ford pardoned her.
Best regards,
Ronald E. Yates
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17 May 2004 04:32:41 PM |
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=> Vox Populi © wrote:
King Samuel wrote:
=> Vox Populi © wrote:
http://www.fbi.gov/libref/historic/famcases/rose/rose.htm
In November 1943, Toguri began her career as a broadcaster for Radio ...
You might be interested in knowing that it was in a series
of stories I wrote in 1976 for the Chicago Tribune that
George Mitsushio and Ken Oki confessed that they had
perjured themselves at the trial of Iva Toguri, AKA
"Tokyo Rose." I was the Tribune's Far Eastern Correspondent, based in Tokyo
at the time. I had tracked down Mitsushio and Oki and after several meetings
with them, they told me they had lied at Iva's trial. After my stories
appeared(they were picked up all over the country) the Ford White House
contacted me in Tokyo wanting more information. 60 Minutes did a piece on
Iva and on January 17, 1977 Ford pardoned her.
Best regards,
Ronald E. Yates
How much did you pay them?
LZ
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16 May 2004 10:55:31 AM |
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=> Vox Populi © wrote:
King Samuel wrote:
=> Vox Populi © wrote:
King Samuel wrote:
=> Vox Populi © wrote:
Whereas > Whereas King Spammy burned his little brain
on the visual images of Nick Berg getting his head
slowly sawn off with a dull knife ...
Wassa matta
Nothing a good federal prosecutor cant' right with an indictment for
your continued and flagrant practice of giving "aid and comfort" to
our nation's enemies during this war on terror.
Who are our "nation's enemies" Spammy?
~ al Qaeda
~ radical Islam
~ traitors from within, like YOU
Fascists scumbags like you are surely on that list, and
I have never given lowlife chickenshit cowards like you
any aid nor comfort.
You gave "aid and comfort" to those who killed Berg.
You are a TRAITOR Vox.
To fascist shitstains like you? Well, yes and no.
Since I've never been one of you lowlife fascist shitsuckers,
there is nothing to betray, however you may accuratly consider
me your profound enemy.
You are a traitor to THIS nation at time of war.
You must be arrested, charged, and prosecuted for your TREASON.
In your pathetic dreams, gutless fascist.
You've left a potent and far reaching written record of your treason, enjoy.
And trust me, you surely will be.
You're lying again you spineless chickenhawk coward.
Wait and see.
You have sealed your fate.
Still too chickenshit to do anything yourself, eh Spammy?
A federal prosecutor is far better equipped to deal with you.
enjoy.
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16 May 2004 07:40:11 PM |
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King Samuel wrote:
=> Vox Populi © wrote:
King Samuel wrote:
=> Vox Populi © wrote:
on the visual images of Nick Berg getting his head
slowly sawn off with a dull knife ...
Wassa matta
Nothing a good federal prosecutor cant' right with an indictment for
your continued and flagrant practice of giving "aid and comfort" to
our nation's enemies during this war on terror.
Who are our "nation's enemies" Spammy?
~ al Qaeda
~ neo-cons like Perle, Wolfowitz, Cheney, and "Bellagio Bill"
~ radical Islam
~ radical religious nutters of all stripes.
~ traitors from within, like YOU
~ AIPAC, Halliburton, Carlyle Group
Fascists scumbags like you are surely on that list, and
I have never given lowlife chickenshit cowards like you
any aid nor comfort.
You gave "aid and comfort" to those who killed Berg.
How so? By criticizing Bush's impaired judgment? That's what our
democratic republic is supposed to be all about.
You are a TRAITOR Vox.
To fascist shitstains like you? Well, yes and no.
Since I've never been one of you lowlife fascist shitsuckers,
there is nothing to betray, however you may accuratly consider
me your profound enemy.
You are a traitor to THIS nation at time of war.
We're in a war? Isn't it more like an occupation? I thought we won
the war a year ago -- that's what Shrub said.... :P
You must be arrested, charged, and prosecuted for your TREASON.
In your pathetic dreams, gutless fascist.
You've left a potent and far reaching written record of your treason,
enjoy.
If this is what you call "treason," we could use a little more of it;
criticism of your leaders, when appropriate, is not just citizenship
-- it is the very soul of patriotism.
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16 May 2004 10:55:51 PM |
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Ken Smith wrote:
Ken that was an idiot's response, you dishonor yourself yet again with
such stupidity.
Go back and use your brain next time.
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17 May 2004 11:22:27 PM |
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Here is the correct way to type a subject line.
--
Who do you serve. . . . And who do you trust?
(To e-mail me, remove the X from my address)
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18 May 2004 09:06:43 AM |
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Fred Ellis wrote:
Here is the correct way to type a subject line.
Sorry Fred, you were voted off Style Island yesterday ...
better luck next time.
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"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our
number one priority and we will not rest until we find him."
~ George Bush Jr. 2001-09-13
"I don't know where he (bin Laden) is. I have no idea and I really
don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
~ George Bush Jr. 2002-03-13
"I was not prepared to shoot my eardrum out with a shotgun in order to
get a deferment. Not was I willing to go to Canada. So I chose to
better myself by learning how to fly airplanes."
~George W. Bush on how he dodged the
Vietnam draft---1994
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18 May 2004 02:21:46 PM |
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Pat Tillman is a PSYOP actor did not die.
It's all a scam.
Fred Ellis wrote:
Here is the correct way to type a subject line.
Sorry Fred, you were voted off Style Island yesterday ...
better luck next time.
--
"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our
number one priority and we will not rest until we find him."
~ George Bush Jr. 2001-09-13
"I don't know where he (bin Laden) is. I have no idea and I really
don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
~ George Bush Jr. 2002-03-13
"I was not prepared to shoot my eardrum out with a shotgun in order to
get a deferment. Not was I willing to go to Canada. So I chose to
better myself by learning how to fly airplanes."
~George W. Bush on how he dodged the
Vietnam draft---1994
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19 May 2004 01:38:30 PM |
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(LIBERATOR) wrote in message news:<12907920.0405181121.240a6eb0@posting.google.com>...
Pat Tillman is a PSYOP actor did not die.
It's all a scam.
LIBERATOR is a PSYOP actor and did not post this note.
It's all a scam.
Chuck
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| User: "King Samuel" |
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19 May 2004 06:36:18 PM |
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wrote:
LIBERATOR@casino.com (LIBERATOR) wrote in message news:<12907920.0405181121.240a6eb0@posting.google.com>...
Pat Tillman is a PSYOP actor did not die.
It's all a scam.
LIBERATOR is a PSYOP actor and did not post this note.
It's all a scam.
Chuck
Mbwhahahaha!
Now *that's* funny!
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21 May 2004 09:42:02 AM |
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King Samuel wrote:
cawrigh@yahoo.com wrote:
LIBERATOR@casino.com (LIBERATOR) wrote in message
news:<12907920.0405181121.240a6eb0@posting.google.com>...
Pat Tillman is a PSYOP actor did not die.
It's all a scam.
LIBERATOR is a PSYOP actor and did not post this note.
It's all a scam.
Chuck
Mbwhahahaha!
If your lips weren't so swollen and distended from sucking all the neo-con
***** all the time, Spammy, they wouldn't get hung up all mumble-mouth
like when you start to laugh like that ...
Now *that's* funny!
--
"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our
number one priority and we will not rest until we find him."
~ George Bush Jr. 2001-09-13
"I don't know where he (bin Laden) is. I have no idea and I really
don't care.
It's not that important. It's not our priority."
~ George Bush Jr. 2002-03-13
"I was not prepared to shoot my eardrum out with a shotgun in order to
get a
deferment. Not was I willing to go to Canada. So I chose to better
myself by
learning how to fly airplanes."
~George W. Bush on how he dodged the
Vietnam draft---1994
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21 May 2004 03:11:46 PM |
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=> Vox Populi © wrote:
King Samuel wrote:
cawrigh@yahoo.com wrote:
LIBERATOR@casino.com (LIBERATOR) wrote in message
news:<12907920.0405181121.240a6eb0@posting.google.com>...
Pat Tillman is a PSYOP actor did not die.
It's all a scam.
LIBERATOR is a PSYOP actor and did not post this note.
It's all a scam.
Chuck
Mbwhahahaha!
If your lips
Vile swine.
Why didn't ya show at the pond last night?
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21 May 2004 04:04:50 PM |
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King Samuel wrote:
=> Vox Populi © wrote:
King Samuel wrote:
cawrigh@yahoo.com wrote:
LIBERATOR@casino.com (LIBERATOR) wrote in message
news:<12907920.0405181121.240a6eb0@posting.google.com>...
Pat Tillman is a PSYOP actor did not die.
It's all a scam.
LIBERATOR is a PSYOP actor and did not post this note.
It's all a scam.
Chuck
Mbwhahahaha!
If your lips
Vile swine.
Why didn't ya show at the pond last night?
'cause like the coward that you are you failed to
notify me.
--
"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our
number one priority and we will not rest until we find him."
~ George Bush Jr. 2001-09-13
"I don't know where he (bin Laden) is. I have no idea and I really
don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
~ George Bush Jr. 2002-03-13
"I was not prepared to shoot my eardrum out with a shotgun in order to
get a deferment. Not was I willing to go to Canada. So I chose to
better myself by learning how to fly airplanes."
~George W. Bush on how he dodged the
Vietnam draft---1994
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21 May 2004 04:38:32 PM |
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=> Vox Populi © wrote:
King Samuel wrote:
=> Vox Populi © wrote:
King Samuel wrote:
cawrigh@yahoo.com wrote:
LIBERATOR@casino.com (LIBERATOR) wrote in message
news:<12907920.0405181121.240a6eb0@posting.google.com>...
Pat Tillman is a PSYOP actor did not die.
It's all a scam.
LIBERATOR is a PSYOP actor and did not post this note.
It's all a scam.
Chuck
Mbwhahahaha!
If your lips
Vile swine.
Why didn't ya show at the pond last night?
'cause like the coward that you are you failed to
notify me.
Nope.
Another lie from sniveling coward VOX TRAITOROUS.
<_uadnfiBRJ7PdDHdRVn2sw@giganews.com>
Ward Road Pond
"This is a catch-and-release pond but offers 15 to 20-inch bass to
accurate shore-casters. Dark-colored jigs and crawdad presentations
jigged along the west side and top-water presentations cast under the
overhanging trees along the north side get the most lunkers."
See ya there poxie, say round 6 PM?
Bring yer deet.
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22 May 2004 09:34:47 AM |
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King Samuel wrote:
=> Vox Populi © wrote:
King Samuel wrote:
=> Vox Populi © wrote:
King Samuel wrote:
cawrigh@yahoo.com wrote:
LIBERATOR@casino.com (LIBERATOR) wrote in message
news:<12907920.0405181121.240a6eb0@posting.google.com>...
Pat Tillman is a PSYOP actor did not die.
It's all a scam.
LIBERATOR is a PSYOP actor and did not post this note.
It's all a scam.
Chuck
Mbwhahahaha!
If your lips
Vile swine.
Why didn't ya show at the pond last night?
'cause like the coward that you are you failed to
notify me.
Nope.
Another lie from sniveling coward VOX TRAITOROUS.
<_uadnfiBRJ7PdDHdRVn2sw@giganews.com>
Ward Road Pond
"This is a catch-and-release pond but offers 15 to 20-inch bass to
accurate shore-casters. Dark-colored jigs and crawdad presentations
jigged along the west side and top-water presentations cast under the
overhanging trees along the north side get the most lunkers."
See ya there poxie, say round 6 PM?
Bring yer deet.
You're lying you gutless little shitstain, and your bogus "link" to
your fabricated posts ain't fooling anyone.
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"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our
number one priority and we will not rest until we find him."
~ George Bush Jr. 2001-09-13
"I don't know where he (bin Laden) is. I have no idea and I really
don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
~ George Bush Jr. 2002-03-13
"I was not prepared to shoot my eardrum out with a shotgun in order to
get a deferment. Not was I willing to go to Canada. So I chose to
better myself by learning how to fly airplanes."
~George W. Bush on how he dodged the
Vietnam draft---1994
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| User: "King Samuel" |
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| Title: Re: => Hey Spammy! - If Pat Tillman Isn't With God ... Where In |
22 May 2004 11:11:53 AM |
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=> Vox Populi © wrote:
King Samuel wrote:
=> Vox Populi © wrote:
King Samuel wrote:
=> Vox Populi © wrote:
King Samuel wrote:
cawrigh@yahoo.com wrote:
LIBERATOR@casino.com (LIBERATOR) wrote in message
news:<12907920.0405181121.240a6eb0@posting.google.com>...
Pat Tillman is a PSYOP actor did not die.
It's all a scam.
LIBERATOR is a PSYOP actor and did not post this note.
It's all a scam.
Chuck
Mbwhahahaha!
If your lips
Vile swine.
Why didn't ya show at the pond last night?
'cause like the coward that you are you failed to
notify me.
Nope.
Another lie from sniveling coward VOX TRAITOROUS.
<_uadnfiBRJ7PdDHdRVn2sw@giganews.com>
Ward Road Pond
"This is a catch-and-release pond but offers 15 to 20-inch bass to
accurate shore-casters. Dark-colored jigs and crawdad presentations
jigged along the west side and top-water presentations cast under the
overhanging trees along the north side get the most lunkers."
See ya there poxie, say round 6 PM?
Bring yer deet.
You're lying you gutless little shitstain, and your bogus "link" to
your fabricated posts ain't fooling anyone.
Chickenshit.
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| User: "= Vox Populi ©" |
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| Title: Re: => Hey Spammy! - If Pat Tillman Isn't With God ... Where In |
18 May 2004 08:49:53 PM |
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Why are you such a psychotic paranoid nutjob ...?
What did Uncle Spammy do to you to cause your injuries?
Would you like to come to Spammy's Fallujah Style BBQ in November,
you're invited.
LIBERATOR wrote:
Pat Tillman is a PSYOP actor did not die.
It's all a scam.
Fred Ellis wrote:
Here is the correct way to type a subject line.
Sorry Fred, you were voted off Style Island yesterday ...
better luck next time.
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"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is
our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him."
~ George Bush Jr. 2001-09-13
"I don't know where he (bin Laden) is. I have no idea and I really
don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
~ George Bush Jr. 2002-03-13
"I was not prepared to shoot my eardrum out with a shotgun in order
to get a deferment. Not was I willing to go to Canada. So I chose to
better myself by learning how to fly airplanes."
~George W. Bush on how he dodged the
Vietnam draft---1994
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"We are going to fight them and impose our will
on them and we will capture or, if necessary, kill
them until we have imposed law and order upon
this country,"
-- US Viceroy Paul Bremer,
how U$A is going to win 'hearts and minds'
of the subjugated people of Iraq
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| User: "King Samuel" |
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| Title: Re: => Hey Spammy! - if Pat Tillman isn't with "god" ... where inthe hell is he? |
16 May 2004 11:21:01 PM |
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=> Vox Populi © wrote:
Tokyo Rose: Hello you fighting orphans in the Pacific. How’s tricks?
This is “After her weekend, and oooh, back on the air, strictly under
union hours.” Reception okay? Why, it better be, because this is
All-Requests night. And I’ve got a pretty nice program for my favorite
little family, the wandering boneheads of the Pacific Islands. The first
request is made by none other than the boss. And guess what? He wants
Bonnie Baker in “My Resistance is Low.” My, what taste you have, sir,
she says.
Music:
"You say you want to see me every night,
But every time you see me, you want to only fight,
I have to say no . . ."
According to union hours, we’re all through today. We close up another
chapter of sweet propaganda in the form of music for you, for my dear
little orphans wandering in the Pacific. There are plenty of non-union
hours coming around the corner, so being see you tomorrow. But in the
meanwhile, always remember to be good, and so . . .
Music:
"Good-bye now, Good-bye now, Good-bye now, Good-bye
In just a moment . . ."
Source: Courtesy of the National Archives and Records Administration,
Recorded Sound Division.
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