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User: "Fredric L. Rice"
Date: 22 Jan 2005 07:30:18 AM
Object: ***** Holiday
N.J. Pastor Faces Charges For Racial Slurs
Man Allegedly Called Churches
http://www.nbc10.com/news/4110922/detail.html
EWING, N.J. -- An 82-year-old white man who is a pastor left messages
at three Trenton area black churches calling Martin Luther King Day an
"N" holiday.
The Rev. Paul Shafran asked for forgiveness at a news conference held
by black ministers to denounce the messages Wednesday.
The pastor emeritus of Saint Vladimir Orthodox Church said he acted out
of foolishness and without malice. Shafran could not explain why he
made the calls on Monday.
Shafran told the ministers he did not realize the "N" word was
offensive.
More than a dozen black ministers prayed with Shafran and asked God to
bless him.
Police have charged the retired minister with harassment and bias
intimidation.
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User: "Midjis"

Title: Re: ***** Holiday 22 Jan 2005 11:03:24 AM
(Fredric L. Rice) wrote in
news:10v3lkdj1jfdjfe@corp.supernews.com:

The pastor emeritus of Saint Vladimir Orthodox Church said he acted out
of foolishness and without malice. Shafran could not explain why he
made the calls on Monday.

Shafran told the ministers he did not realize the "N" word was
offensive.

What a load of utter garbage. He didn't realise? I would have thought a
'pastor' would have at least some kind of awareness of human social
developments. Especially one who's 82 years old. It's clear this man has
no right to presume to lead others.
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User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: ***** Holiday 22 Jan 2005 07:07:23 AM
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 07:30:18 GMT,
(Fredric L.
Rice) said in alt.atheism:

Shafran told the ministers he did not realize the "N" word was
offensive.

An admission of utter stupidity?

More than a dozen black ministers prayed with Shafran and asked God to
bless him.

The more fools, they.
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User: "Fredric L. Rice"

Title: Re: ***** Holiday 22 Jan 2005 07:43:45 PM
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 07:30:18 GMT,

(Fredric L.
Rice) said in alt.atheism:

Shafran told the ministers he did not realize the "N" word was offensive.

An admission of utter stupidity?

A patheticly obvious lie? }:-} What I thought was interesting was:
An 82-year-old white man who is a pastor left messages
at three Trenton area black churches calling Martin
Luther King Day an "N" holiday.
There are "white churches" and there are "black churches." Christianity
doesn't appear to do anything about racial demarcations; the religion
seems to be broken up into racial traits.
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User: "The Last Liberal / ShyDavid / Desertphile"

Title: Re: ***** Holiday 22 Jan 2005 09:42:24 PM
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 07:07:23 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 07:30:18 GMT,

(Fredric L.
Rice) said in alt.atheism:

Shafran told the ministers he did not realize the "N" word was
offensive.

I find the phrase "The 'N' word" offensive. If the word ised is
"*****," then by god they ought to say the word "*****." Why the
bloody hell are some people affraid of words?

An admission of utter stupidity?

More like a denial of bigotry: he would rather be thought a
ignorant moron than a racist bigot. Imagine claiming one does not
know that "*****" is offensive! Sheeeish.
Shane: [Leans with back on the bar, one foot on foot rail] "So
you're Jack Wilson."
Jack Wilson: "What's that mean to you, Shane?"
Shane: "I've heard about you."
Jack Wilson: "What have you heard, Shane?"
Shane: [stands straight up] "I've heard that you're a low-down
Yankee liar."
Jack Wilson: [Little smile] "Prove it."
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User: ""

Title: Re: ***** Holiday 22 Jan 2005 09:15:28 AM
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 07:30:18 GMT,
(Fredric L.
Rice) wrote:

N.J. Pastor Faces Charges For Racial Slurs
Man Allegedly Called Churches

http://www.nbc10.com/news/4110922/detail.html

EWING, N.J. -- An 82-year-old white man who is a pastor left messages
at three Trenton area black churches calling Martin Luther King Day an
"N" holiday.

The Rev. Paul Shafran asked for forgiveness at a news conference held
by black ministers to denounce the messages Wednesday.

The pastor emeritus of Saint Vladimir Orthodox Church said he acted out
of foolishness and without malice. Shafran could not explain why he
made the calls on Monday.

Shafran told the ministers he did not realize the "N" word was
offensive.

More than a dozen black ministers prayed with Shafran and asked God to
bless him.

Police have charged the retired minister with harassment and bias
intimidation.

Lol!
Damned yankee!
South Joisey right?
atheist@home#1554

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User: "Fredric L. Rice"

Title: Re: ***** Holiday 22 Jan 2005 07:45:29 PM
wrote:

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 07:30:18 GMT,

(Fredric L.
Rice) wrote:

N.J. Pastor Faces Charges For Racial Slurs
Man Allegedly Called Churches
http://www.nbc10.com/news/4110922/detail.html

Lol!
Damned yankee!
South Joisey right?

At times I think some of these alleged news items are hoaxes. The idea
that a Christian preacher would call up other churches and do this seems
like it's _got_ to be a spoof.
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User: ""

Title: Re: ***** Holiday 22 Jan 2005 06:29:07 PM
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:45:29 GMT,
(Fredric L.
Rice) wrote:

atheist@home.com wrote:

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 07:30:18 GMT,

(Fredric L.
Rice) wrote:

N.J. Pastor Faces Charges For Racial Slurs
Man Allegedly Called Churches
http://www.nbc10.com/news/4110922/detail.html


Lol!
Damned yankee!
South Joisey right?


At times I think some of these alleged news items are hoaxes. The idea
that a Christian preacher would call up other churches and do this seems
like it's _got_ to be a spoof.

It was a very strange thing to do.
I was thinking about his age.
Diminished capacity maybe.
atheist@home#1554

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User: "Rally"

Title: Re: ***** Holiday 22 Jan 2005 07:13:38 PM
<atheist@home.com> wrote in message
news:p465v0ttar9gur8lg9b2hnu22cs3sjscm1@4ax.com...

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:45:29 GMT,

(Fredric L.
Rice) wrote:

atheist@home.com wrote:

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 07:30:18 GMT,

(Fredric L.
Rice) wrote:

N.J. Pastor Faces Charges For Racial Slurs
Man Allegedly Called Churches
http://www.nbc10.com/news/4110922/detail.html


Lol!
Damned yankee!
South Joisey right?


At times I think some of these alleged news items are hoaxes. The idea
that a Christian preacher would call up other churches and do this seems
like it's _got_ to be a spoof.


It was a very strange thing to do.
I was thinking about his age.
Diminished capacity maybe.

Well, he apparently hates fags - hating niggers mustn't be too much of a
stretch...
.

User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: ***** Holiday 23 Jan 2005 12:34:53 AM
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 18:29:07 GMT,
said in
alt.atheism:

It was a very strange thing to do.
I was thinking about his age.
Diminished capacity maybe.

I guess the longer he's religious the more diminished his capacity
becomes.
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User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: ***** Holiday 23 Jan 2005 12:36:26 AM
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 09:15:28 GMT,
said in
alt.atheism:

Lol!
Damned yankee!
South Joisey right?

Kind of in the middle.
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numerous stupidities, for which only He Himself can be held responsible; in my opinion,
only His nonexistence could excuse Him."
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User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass"

Title: Re: ***** Holiday 22 Jan 2005 12:57:17 PM
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 07:30:18 GMT,
(Fredric L.
Rice) wrote:

N.J. Pastor Faces Charges For Racial Slurs
Man Allegedly Called Churches

http://www.nbc10.com/news/4110922/detail.html

EWING, N.J. -- An 82-year-old white man who is a pastor left messages
at three Trenton area black churches calling Martin Luther King Day an
"N" holiday.

And Jesus said unto him, "Thou shalt call thy neighbor's churchs, and
cast thy racial slurs upon them."

The Rev. Paul Shafran asked for forgiveness at a news conference held
by black ministers to denounce the messages Wednesday.

The pastor emeritus of Saint Vladimir Orthodox Church said he acted out
of foolishness and without malice. Shafran could not explain why he
made the calls on Monday.

Shafran told the ministers he did not realize the "N" word was
offensive.

More than a dozen black ministers prayed with Shafran and asked God to
bless him.

Police have charged the retired minister with harassment and bias
intimidation.

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User: "raven1"

Title: Re: ***** Holiday 22 Jan 2005 07:45:28 AM
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 07:30:18 GMT,
(Fredric L.
Rice) wrote:
Warning: sarcasm below!

N.J. Pastor Faces Charges For Racial Slurs
Man Allegedly Called Churches

http://www.nbc10.com/news/4110922/detail.html

EWING, N.J. -- An 82-year-old white man who is a pastor left messages
at three Trenton area black churches calling Martin Luther King Day an
"N" holiday.

The Rev. Paul Shafran asked for forgiveness at a news conference held
by black ministers to denounce the messages Wednesday.

The pastor emeritus of Saint Vladimir Orthodox Church said he acted out
of foolishness and without malice. Shafran could not explain why he
made the calls on Monday.

No doubt he also failed to explain why he left "Heil Hitler" messages
on the answering machines of several synagogues last Yom Kippur...

Shafran told the ministers he did not realize the "N" word was
offensive.

And failed to understand why those touchy Jews were so offended
either...
</sarcasm>
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