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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Reality_Check©"
Date: 27 Jan 2008 11:22:02 PM
Object: ** Mitt Romney acknowledged "Mormons are not Christian" ! **
Focus: Romney 'acknowledged' Mormons not Christian
By RACHEL ZOLL AP Religion Writer
Article Last Updated: 01/25/2008 04:14:33 PM MST
An executive for one of the nation's leading evangelical groups says in a
video voter guide that Mitt Romney has "acknowledged Mormonism is not a
Christian faith," although the GOP presidential candidate has said he
follows Jesus Christ and his church insists it is Christian.
Tom Minnery, senior vice president of government and public policy at Focus
on the Family Action, said in an interview Friday that the comment was his
interpretation of Romney's December "Faith in America" speech that was meant
to reassure voters about his religion.
Minnery said that he spoke with the campaign after the video was posted this
week and they did not contest his view or ask him to retract the statement.
"We've got a good relationship with them," he said.
Kevin Madden, a Romney spokesman, said in an e-mail that "campaign guides by
advocacy groups consist of their viewpoints." Madden referred to Romney's
faith speech when asked if the former Massachusetts governor considers
himself Christian.
Romney has long been dedicated to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day
Saints, serving as a New England area bishop and helping build a Mormon
temple outside Boston, among other services.
Minnery made the comments in "Focus Action Candidate Commentary," a series
of short videos meant to help voters understand the positions of leading
Democratic and Republican presidential candidates on issues important to
social conservatives.
The Focus Action Web site, citizenlink.org, averages about 250,000 visits a
month, and is the political arm of James Dobson's Focus on the Family based
in Colorado Springs, Colo. Dobson draws a radio audience in the millions and
candidates compete for his support. But he has only made one endorsement in
a presidential race, in 2004, backing George W. Bush.
Romney is treated favorably in the videos, compared with fellow Republican
contenders John McCain, Rudy Giuliani and Mike Huckabee.
Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council in Washington, which
is also linked to Dobson's ministry, calls Romney's positions "solidly
conservative across the board."
Minnery argues that the media has been unfair to Romney, then says, "Mitt
Romney has acknowledged that Mormonism is not a Christian faith and I
appreciate his acknowledging that. He said, 'But on the social issues, we
are so similar,' and that is true.'"
Minnery based his interpretation on the section of Romney's December speech
in which the former governor professes "that Jesus Christ is the Son of God
and the Savior of mankind," then acknowledges that religions differ on their
beliefs about Christ and "each religion has its own unique doctrines."
Mormons feel maligned by claims that they aren't Christian. The scriptures
of Latter-day Saints include the Old and New Testament, but also include
sacred books that contain the revelations of their 19th century founder
Joseph Smith.
The church said in a statement Friday that "all of our dreams and future
aspirations are centered in our belief in Jesus Christ."
--
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User: "Ramona"

Title: Re: ** Mitt Romney acknowledged "Mormons are not Christian" ! ** 28 Jan 2008 08:04:13 AM
On Jan 28, 12:22 am, "Reality_Check=A9" <Real...@Check.it> wrote:

Focus: Romney 'acknowledged' Mormons not Christian

By RACHEL ZOLL AP Religion Writer
Article Last Updated: 01/25/2008 04:14:33 PM MST

An executive for one of the nation's leading evangelical groups says in a
video voter guide that Mitt Romney has "acknowledged Mormonism is not a
Christian faith," although the GOP presidential candidate has said he
follows Jesus Christ and his church insists it is Christian.
Tom Minnery, senior vice president of government and public policy at Focu=

s

on the Family Action, said in an interview Friday that the comment was his=
interpretation of Romney's December "Faith in America" speech that was mea=

nt

to reassure voters about his religion.

Minnery said that he spoke with the campaign after the video was posted th=

is

week and they did not contest his view or ask him to retract the statement=

..


"We've got a good relationship with them," he said.

Kevin Madden, a Romney spokesman, said in an e-mail that "campaign guides =

by

advocacy groups consist of their viewpoints." Madden referred to Romney's
faith speech when asked if the former Massachusetts governor considers
himself Christian.

Romney has long been dedicated to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day=
Saints, serving as a New England area bishop and helping build a Mormon
temple outside Boston, among other services.

Minnery made the comments in "Focus Action Candidate Commentary," a series=
of short videos meant to help voters understand the positions of leading
Democratic and Republican presidential candidates on issues important to
social conservatives.

The Focus Action Web site, citizenlink.org, averages about 250,000 visits =

a

month, and is the political arm of James Dobson's Focus on the Family base=

d

in Colorado Springs, Colo. Dobson draws a radio audience in the millions a=

nd

candidates compete for his support. But he has only made one endorsement i=

n

a presidential race, in 2004, backing George W. Bush.

Romney is treated favorably in the videos, compared with fellow Republican=
contenders John McCain, Rudy Giuliani and Mike Huckabee.

Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council in Washington, whic=

h

is also linked to Dobson's ministry, calls Romney's positions "solidly
conservative across the board."

Minnery argues that the media has been unfair to Romney, then says, "Mitt
Romney has acknowledged that Mormonism is not a Christian faith and I
appreciate his acknowledging that. He said, 'But on the social issues, we
are so similar,' and that is true.'"

Minnery based his interpretation on the section of Romney's December speec=

h

in which the former governor professes "that Jesus Christ is the Son of Go=

d

and the Savior of mankind," then acknowledges that religions differ on the=

ir

beliefs about Christ and "each religion has its own unique doctrines."

Mormons feel maligned by claims that they aren't Christian. The scriptures=
of Latter-day Saints include the Old and New Testament, but also include
sacred books that contain the revelations of their 19th century founder
Joseph Smith.

The church said in a statement Friday that "all of our dreams and future
aspirations are centered in our belief in Jesus Christ."

--
Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com

This is the type of crap that I detest reading...horrifically
misinterpreted and blatantly disingenuous writings that are
perpetuated to people likely to be ignorant and/or unwilling to find
the source documentation. Well here it is:
http://www.mittromney.com/News/Speeches/Faith_In_America
"There is one fundamental question about which I often am asked. What
do I believe about Jesus Christ? I believe that Jesus Christ is the
Son of God and the Savior of mankind. My church's beliefs about Christ
may not all be the same as those of other faiths. Each religion has
its own unique doctrines and history. These are not bases for
criticism but rather a test of our tolerance. Religious tolerance
would be a shallow principle indeed if it were reserved only for
faiths with which we agree."
I hate to break this fact to you, but Christians don't all universally
agree of the concept of salvation with some believing baptism
essential while others (certain baptist congregations) believe baptism
a work and not essential. Just like the mormons, each faith has
unique doctrines. The Catholics believe in the concept of
transubstantiation. Does that unique doctrine exclude them from being
Christian? I think not, though likely there are some Christians that
find Catholics to not be Christian along with their LDS brethern.
I just one thing of those "christian". Do not bear false witness.
Claiming an organization that professes Jesus as Savior is indeed
bearing false witness and better would be to allow the ultimate judge,
if such being exists, to make that determination if even relevant.
Ramona
.
User: "VApolluan"

Title: Re: ** Mitt Romney acknowledged "Mormons are not Christian" ! ** 28 Jan 2008 08:19:45 AM
On Jan 28, 8:04 am, Ramona <atlram...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Jan 28, 12:22 am, "Reality_Check=A9" <Real...@Check.it> wrote:



Focus: Romney 'acknowledged' Mormons not Christian


By RACHEL ZOLL AP Religion Writer
Article Last Updated: 01/25/2008 04:14:33 PM MST


An executive for one of the nation's leading evangelical groups says in =

a

video voter guide that Mitt Romney has "acknowledged Mormonism is not a
Christian faith," although the GOP presidential candidate has said he
follows Jesus Christ and his church insists it is Christian.
Tom Minnery, senior vice president of government and public policy at Fo=

cus

on the Family Action, said in an interview Friday that the comment was h=

is

interpretation of Romney's December "Faith in America" speech that was m=

eant

to reassure voters about his religion.


Minnery said that he spoke with the campaign after the video was posted =

this

week and they did not contest his view or ask him to retract the stateme=

nt.


"We've got a good relationship with them," he said.


Kevin Madden, a Romney spokesman, said in an e-mail that "campaign guide=

s by

advocacy groups consist of their viewpoints." Madden referred to Romney'=

s

faith speech when asked if the former Massachusetts governor considers
himself Christian.


Romney has long been dedicated to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-d=

ay

Saints, serving as a New England area bishop and helping build a Mormon
temple outside Boston, among other services.


Minnery made the comments in "Focus Action Candidate Commentary," a seri=

es

of short videos meant to help voters understand the positions of leading=
Democratic and Republican presidential candidates on issues important to=
social conservatives.


The Focus Action Web site, citizenlink.org, averages about 250,000 visit=

s a

month, and is the political arm of James Dobson's Focus on the Family ba=

sed

in Colorado Springs, Colo. Dobson draws a radio audience in the millions=

and

candidates compete for his support. But he has only made one endorsement=

in

a presidential race, in 2004, backing George W. Bush.


Romney is treated favorably in the videos, compared with fellow Republic=

an

contenders John McCain, Rudy Giuliani and Mike Huckabee.


Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council in Washington, wh=

ich

is also linked to Dobson's ministry, calls Romney's positions "solidly
conservative across the board."


Minnery argues that the media has been unfair to Romney, then says, "Mit=

t

Romney has acknowledged that Mormonism is not a Christian faith and I
appreciate his acknowledging that. He said, 'But on the social issues, w=

e

are so similar,' and that is true.'"


Minnery based his interpretation on the section of Romney's December spe=

ech

in which the former governor professes "that Jesus Christ is the Son of =

God

and the Savior of mankind," then acknowledges that religions differ on t=

heir

beliefs about Christ and "each religion has its own unique doctrines."


Mormons feel maligned by claims that they aren't Christian. The scriptur=

es

of Latter-day Saints include the Old and New Testament, but also include=
sacred books that contain the revelations of their 19th century founder
Joseph Smith.


The church said in a statement Friday that "all of our dreams and future=
aspirations are centered in our belief in Jesus Christ."


--
Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com


This is the type of crap that I detest reading...horrifically
misinterpreted and blatantly disingenuous writings that are
perpetuated to people likely to be ignorant and/or unwilling to find
the source documentation. Well here it is:

http://www.mittromney.com/News/Speeches/Faith_In_America

"There is one fundamental question about which I often am asked. What
do I believe about Jesus Christ? I believe that Jesus Christ is the
Son of God and the Savior of mankind.

That is the most critical, although adding that he was crucified for
our sins and was raised from the dead is extremely important.
My church's beliefs about Christ

may not all be the same as those of other faiths. Each religion has
its own unique doctrines and history. These are not bases for
criticism but rather a test of our tolerance. Religious tolerance
would be a shallow principle indeed if it were reserved only for
faiths with which we agree."

I hate to break this fact to you, but Christians don't all universally
agree of the concept of salvation with some believing baptism
essential while others (certain baptist congregations) believe baptism
a work and not essential. Just like the mormons, each faith has
unique doctrines. The Catholics believe in the concept of
transubstantiation. Does that unique doctrine exclude them from being
Christian? I think not, though likely there are some Christians that
find Catholics to not be Christian along with their LDS brethern.

I just one thing of those "christian". Do not bear false witness.
Claiming an organization that professes Jesus as Savior is indeed
bearing false witness and better would be to allow the ultimate judge,
if such being exists, to make that determination if even relevant.

Ramona

.
User: "Diana"

Title: Re: ** Mitt Romney acknowledged "Mormons are not Christian" ! ** 28 Jan 2008 10:14:14 AM
"VApolluan" <sheppjon@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:a14a2d1c-d2bc-45f2-815a-e3cf942749e6@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 28, 8:04 am, Ramona <atlram...@gmail.com> wrote:
<snip to>

"There is one fundamental question about which I often am asked. What
do I believe about Jesus Christ? I believe that Jesus Christ is the
Son of God and the Savior of mankind.

That is the most critical, although adding that he was crucified for
our sins and was raised from the dead is extremely important.

I do believe this. That said, I have to ask: "important for what?" <snip to
end>
.



User: "Uncle Vic"

Title: Re: ** Mitt Romney acknowledged "Mormons are not Christian" ! ** 28 Jan 2008 12:16:07 AM
One fine day in alt.atheism, "Reality_Check©" <Reality@Check.it>
bloodied us up with this:

An executive for one of the nation's leading evangelical groups says
in a video voter guide that Mitt Romney has "acknowledged Mormonism is
not a Christian faith," although the GOP presidential candidate has
said he follows Jesus Christ and his church insists it is Christian.

Therefore, if elected, he will *also* insist that tax breaks are the answer
to an economy spiralling into recession, as opposed to doing something
about defecit spending.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Convicted by Earthquack.
.


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