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~~ Nobel Laureate Biologists says: Blacks ARE Different <= oh my! ~~ |
'Race row' Nobel winner suspended
a.. Nobel laureate biologist James Watson suspended from job after comments
b.. Watson said in interview that black people less intelligent than whites
c.. He has apologized for the controversial remarks, denounced as racist
LONDON, England (CNN) -- Nobel laureate biologist James Watson was suspended Friday
from his longtime post at a research laboratory and canceled his planned British book
tour after controversial comments that black people are not as intelligent as white
people.
Watson has apologized for the controversial remarks.
He failed to appear to a book signing at a London bookshop Friday afternoon, and
organizers of his planned Sunday evening talk at Newcastle's Center for Life said
they had been informed Watson would not appear because he was already on a flight
home to the States.
The board of trustees at New York's Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory, which Watson has
led for nearly four decades, said they had suspended his administrative
responsibilities pending a review of his comments.
Watson, 79, an American who won the 1962 Nobel prize for his role in discovering the
double-helix structure of DNA, apologized Thursday for his remarks -- but not before
London's Science Museum canceled his talk there, planned for Friday evening.
The museum said Watson's words had "gone beyond the point of acceptable debate."
The controvery began with an October 14 interview Watson gave to the Sunday Times,
which quoted him saying he was "inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa"
because "all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the
same as ours, whereas all the testing says not really."
Watson also asserted there was no reason to believe different races separated by
geography should have evolved identically, and he said that while he hoped everyone
was equal, "people who have to deal with black employees find this is not true."
The biologist apologized "unreservedly" Thursday for his comments and said he was
"mortified" by the words attributed to him.
"I cannot understand how I could have said what I am quoted as having said," Watson
said during an appearance at the Royal Society in London. "I can certainly understand
why people, reading those words, have reacted in the ways that they have."
"To all those who have drawn the inference from my words that Africa, as a continent,
is somehow genetically inferior, I can only apologize unreservedly. That is not what
I meant. More importantly from my point of view, there is no scientific basis for
such a belief."
Watson was expected to sign copies of his new book, Avoid Boring People: Lessons from
a Life in Science, at Blackwell bookshop in central London Friday afternoon but
failed to appear. Soon afterward, a spokeswoman for the Center for Life in Newcastle,
where Watson was expected to speak Sunday night, said they had been told Watson was
canceling all speaking engagements and was already flying home.
Center spokeswoman Julia Hankin said they were disappointed.
"We welcomed the opportunity to discuss his controversial comments," Hankin said. "We
had hoped for a rigorous and lively debate."
Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory, the institute on New York's Long Island which Watson
has headed since 1968, confirmed it had suspended his responsibilities as chancellor
"pending further deliberation by the board."
It said the board publicly disagreed with the comments attributed to Watson in the
Sunday Times.
Late Thursday, The 1990 Trust, a British civil rights group, called for a boycott of
Watson's books and pressure to be put on venues to cancel his planned appearances.
Watson's remarks to the Sunday Times were but the latest controversial comments from
the eminent biologist.
In 1997, Britain's Sunday Telegraph quoted Watson as saying that if a gene for
homosexuality were isolated, women who find that their unborn child has the gene
should be allowed to have an abortion.
During a lecture tour in 2000, he suggested there might be links between skin color
and sexual prowess and between a person's weight and their level of ambition.
And in a British TV documentary that aired in 2003, Watson suggested that stupidity
was a genetic disease that should be treated.
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| User: "Balsina Twyst" |
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| Title: Re: ~~ Nobel Laureate Biologists says: Blacks ARE Different <= oh my! ~~ |
21 Oct 2007 05:36:44 PM |
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Doctor Watson's veiled remarks on comparative racial intelligence will
gain more clarity, probably in this decade.
Once the scientific community definitively finds and traces the genes
among modern humans that were carried during the "great migration"
from Africa north to the modern Middle- and Far East and Europe
several hundred-thousand years ago, the result will reflect that,
indeed, modern Sub-Saharan Africans generally possess a slightly but
indisputably lower average intelligence than is found in certain out-
of-African populations.
This research has been ongoing for some years.
The findings thus will reflect a continental-regional differential as
much as a "racial" disparity.
The research will support the current hypothesis that those peoples
who elected to migrate to the north and out of Africa carried genetic
characteristics more common among adventurous, inventive, and risk-
taking humans. Those humans that remained in Africa generally were
largely more conservative and less creative and daring than their
departed brethren. Thus a small but indisputable difference in IQ
will be established, with certain modern Europeans and populations in
Southeast and Far-Eastern Asia "scoring" above a majority of their
modern Sub-Saharan "counterparts."
As they say, "It is just a matter of time."
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| User: "_ Prof. Jonez _" |
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| Title: Re: ~~ Nobel Laureate Biologists says: Blacks ARE Different <= oh my! ~~ |
21 Oct 2007 07:49:33 PM |
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"Balsina Twyst" <jismquiff@yahoo.com> wrote in message
***
Doctor Watson's veiled remarks on comparative racial intelligence will
gain more clarity, probably in this decade.
Once the scientific community definitively finds and traces the genes
among modern humans that were carried during the "great migration"
from Africa north to the modern Middle- and Far East and Europe
several hundred-thousand years ago, the result will reflect that,
indeed, modern Sub-Saharan Africans generally possess a slightly but
indisputably lower average intelligence than is found in certain out-
of-African populations.
This research has been ongoing for some years.
The findings thus will reflect a continental-regional differential as
much as a "racial" disparity.
The research will support the current hypothesis that those peoples
who elected to migrate to the north and out of Africa carried genetic
characteristics more common among adventurous, inventive, and risk-
taking humans.
Similar results and conclusions can be made for those adventurous
Pioneers who left the original U$ colonies and migrated across America
the west coast.
Those humans that remained in Africa generally were
largely more conservative and less creative and daring than their
departed brethren. Thus a small but indisputable difference in IQ
will be established, with certain modern Europeans and populations in
Southeast and Far-Eastern Asia "scoring" above a majority of their
modern Sub-Saharan "counterparts."
Same can be said for the conservative, cowardly overweight repugnikkkan
retards who remained in the industrialized eastern United States.
As they say, "It is just a matter of time."
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: ~~ Nobel Laureate Biologists says: Blacks ARE Different <= oh my! ~~ |
21 Oct 2007 10:05:49 PM |
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On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 15:36:44 -0700, Balsina Twyst
<jismquiff@yahoo.com> wrote:
Once the scientific community definitively finds and traces the genes
among modern humans that were carried during the "great migration"
from Africa north to the modern Middle- and Far East and Europe
several hundred-thousand years ago, the result will reflect that,
indeed, modern Sub-Saharan Africans generally possess a slightly but
indisputably lower average intelligence than is found in certain out-
of-African populations.
There's no "intelligence gene".
This research has been ongoing for some years.
And it will go on for as long as there are morons trying to find
"social genetics".
The research will support the current hypothesis that those peoples
who elected to migrate to the north and out of Africa
The "migration" wasn't a migration, and it wasn't elective.
Those humans that remained in Africa generally were
largely more conservative and less creative and daring than their
departed brethren.
Which, of course, explains that "conservative and less creative and
daring" civilization known as Ancient Egypt, which was African.
As they say, "It is just a matter of time."
Before we evolve to the point that this kind of stupidity is relegated
to the same dustbin of history as the belief that the Sun God takes
the sun for a trip across the heavens every day in his chariot.
But you DO have to admit that those "white Europeans" you're so proud
of as your ancestors originated in Black ancestors in Africa. YOUR
ancestors.
--
Al at Webdingers dot com
"I would use twisted logic and poorly masked bigotry ... eleven years is a long time to be living
a fake life ... I don't care what people believe ... My career as a media figurehead is over."
- Ann Coulter, "An Open Letter to Readers", October 5, 2007
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| User: "middle_class_warrior" |
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| Title: Re: ~~ Nobel Laureate Biologists says: Blacks ARE Different <= ohmy! ~~ |
21 Oct 2007 10:23:48 PM |
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Al Klein wrote:
On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 15:36:44 -0700, Balsina Twyst
<jismquiff@yahoo.com> wrote:
Once the scientific community definitively finds and traces the genes
among modern humans that were carried during the "great migration"
from Africa north to the modern Middle- and Far East and Europe
several hundred-thousand years ago, the result will reflect that,
indeed, modern Sub-Saharan Africans generally possess a slightly but
indisputably lower average intelligence than is found in certain out-
of-African populations.
There's no "intelligence gene".
This research has been ongoing for some years.
And it will go on for as long as there are morons trying to find
"social genetics".
My God! Does this mean Bush is black!
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| User: "_ Prof. Jonez _" |
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| Title: Re: ~~ Nobel Laureate Biologists says: Blacks ARE Different <= oh my! ~~ |
22 Oct 2007 01:28:41 AM |
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"middle_class_warrior" <middle_class_warrior@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:8JUSi.24895$DX.10666@trnddc06...
Al Klein wrote:
On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 15:36:44 -0700, Balsina Twyst
<jismquiff@yahoo.com> wrote:
Once the scientific community definitively finds and traces the genes
among modern humans that were carried during the "great migration"
from Africa north to the modern Middle- and Far East and Europe
several hundred-thousand years ago, the result will reflect that,
indeed, modern Sub-Saharan Africans generally possess a slightly but
indisputably lower average intelligence than is found in certain out-
of-African populations.
There's no "intelligence gene".
This research has been ongoing for some years.
And it will go on for as long as there are morons trying to find
"social genetics".
My God! Does this mean Bush is black!
We all be black since Adam's Baby's Mama be Black ...
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: ~~ Nobel Laureate Biologists says: Blacks ARE Different <= oh my! ~~ |
22 Oct 2007 07:42:19 AM |
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On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 03:23:48 GMT, middle_class_warrior
<middle_class_warrior@verizon.net> wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 15:36:44 -0700, Balsina Twyst
<jismquiff@yahoo.com> wrote:
Once the scientific community definitively finds and traces the genes
among modern humans that were carried during the "great migration"
from Africa north to the modern Middle- and Far East and Europe
several hundred-thousand years ago, the result will reflect that,
indeed, modern Sub-Saharan Africans generally possess a slightly but
indisputably lower average intelligence than is found in certain out-
of-African populations.
There's no "intelligence gene".
This research has been ongoing for some years.
And it will go on for as long as there are morons trying to find
"social genetics".
My God! Does this mean Bush is black!
All humans are descended from black ancestors.
--
Al at Webdingers dot com
"Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each other. They slander each
other constantly with the vilest forms of abuse and cannot come to any sort of
agreement in their teachings. Each sect brands its own, fills the head of its own
with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect little pigs of those it wins over to its
side."
- Celsus On the True Doctrine
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| User: "Mike" |
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| Title: Re: ~~ Nobel Laureate Biologists says: Blacks ARE Different <= oh my! ~~ |
22 Oct 2007 09:31:02 AM |
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On Oct 22, 8:42 am, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 03:23:48 GMT, middle_class_warrior
My God! Does this mean Bush is black!
All humans are descended from black ancestors.
That is quite an unsubstantiated assertion! Skin color, hair
type, and certain other racial characteristics do not fossilize well.
Are you simply assuming that 100,000 year old Africans resembled
blacks more than any other extant race just because they came from
Africa? The Bushman-Hottentot racial type is as ancient or more in
Africa than blacks and they are not more similar to blacks than other
races are. I would tend to guess that whatever ancestral Homo sapiens
type we all descend from differed at least as much from all modern
races as the modern races do from each other.
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| User: "middle_class_warrior" |
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| Title: Re: ~~ Nobel Laureate Biologists says: Blacks ARE Different <= ohmy! ~~ |
22 Oct 2007 09:46:44 AM |
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Mike wrote:
On Oct 22, 8:42 am, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 03:23:48 GMT, middle_class_warrior
My God! Does this mean Bush is black!
All humans are descended from black ancestors.
That is quite an unsubstantiated assertion! Skin color, hair
type, and certain other racial characteristics do not fossilize well.
Are you simply assuming that 100,000 year old Africans resembled
blacks more than any other extant race just because they came from
Africa? The Bushman-Hottentot racial type is as ancient or more in
Africa than blacks and they are not more similar to blacks than other
races are. I would tend to guess that whatever ancestral Homo sapiens
type we all descend from differed at least as much from all modern
races as the modern races do from each other.
Our ancestors originated in Africa. They were not Caucasian or Asian. It
has been established that the Bushmen have some of the oldest DNA, but
the DNA in Africa has far more genetic variation than Asians or
Caucasians. Asians and Caucasians are nearly identical genetically.
While some African DNA is at least 140,000 years old, Caucasian DNA is
18,000 years old at best.
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