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~~ Perverted Pastor Ted Haggard now associating with convicted Sex Offender ~~ |
By Alan Gathright And Tillie Fong, Rocky Mountain News
August 28, 2007
Pastor Ted Haggard's dream of ministering to fellow "broken people" at a Phoenix
halfway house has foundered amid revelations that he urged donations to support
his family be sent to a Monument group run by a twice-convicted sex offender.
"He's not going to be moving into the Phoenix Dream Center," said Mike Ware, the
head of a four-member panel of ministers overseeing the fallen preacher's
spiritual restoration.
Ware, a senior pastor at Westminster's Victory Church, spoke by phone before he
met with Haggard in Phoenix this afternoon to investigate his fund-raising
effort that Ware called "premature."
Ware stressed that he didn't want to prejudge the meeting; a second overseer,
Pastor Tim Ralph of New Covenant Fellowship in Larkspur will attend the meeting,
while two other panel members will join via teleconference.
"I can't really make any comment on that until after I've investigated ... and
talked with the other overseers," Ware said.
A minister for the church that runs the Phoenix Dream Center, said Haggard was
mistaken when he stated in a fundraising e-mail that he and his family were
moving into the halfway house where he and his wife would minister to residents,
including the homeless, recovering addicts, prostitutes, ex-cons and other
"broken people."
"I identify," Haggard wrote of the center's troubled clientele, in the
fundraising e-mail he sent last week to KRDO-TV in Colorado Springs.
"That is not part of his restoration plan. I think he visited the Dream Center,
saw it was a good place for people to rehab and got excited," Leo Godzich,
minister at First Assembly church, told the Associated Press Monday.
First Assembly Pastor Tommy Barnett founded the Dream Center and is a mentor to
Haggard during his spiritual recovery.
The revelation that Haggard asked supporters to give him tax-deductible
donations via a nonprofit run by Paul Gerard Huberty, a registered sex offender
from Monument, is just the latest twist in the bizarre saga of the fallen
preacher.
Haggard, 50, last year quit as president of the National Association of
Evangelicals and was fired as pastor of a Colorado Springs megachurch after he
admitted to purchasing drugs and unspecified "sexual immorality" involving a
male prostitute.
Haggard, who has moved with his family to Phoenix, could not be reached for
comment Monday.
'Sad and embarrassing'
Haggard was dismissed from New Life Church in November after a former Denver gay
escort publicly alleged that the powerful preacher had paid him for sex over a
three-year period and sometimes took methamphetamine during the encounters.
Haggard admitted paying Mike Jones for a massage and for meth but denied having
sex with Jones or taking the drug.
In February, one of Haggard's spiritual advisers said the ousted founder of New
Life Church emerged from three weeks of intensive counseling convinced "he is
completely heterosexual" and committed to his marriage.
In the fundraising pitch, Haggard told KRDO "we are looking for people who will
help us monthly for two years" while he and his wife seek counseling degrees at
the University of Phoenix.
"If any supporters need a tax deduction for their gift, they can mail it to
Families With a Mission at P.O. Box 63125, Colorado Springs, CO 80962," Haggard
added.
Haggard didn't note in the solicitation that he was paid one year's salary of
$138,000 in a severance package by New Life's board and still owns a Colorado
Springs home valued at $715,000, according to the El Paso County Assessor's
Office.
Haggard's 2006 salary was reported as $115,000 plus a $85,000 bonus. He also
collects royalties on his book titles, although it was unknown how much he
receives from that. His books were pulled from the New Life Church's bookstore
when the scandal broke.
Jones said Haggard's plea for financial help was "sad and embarrassing."
"When I exposed Ted Haggard, I exposed myself," he said. "I lost everything. My
life is still in boxes and I haven't asked my best friend for help. Here's a man
who left with hundreds of thousands of dollars. The ultimate word is greed. For
all the people who came down on me for ruining a man's life, this is another
example of what this man is like. He would stoop to anything regarding money."
Tie to sex offender
On Friday, a Seattle alternative newspaper, The Stranger, reported online that
Families with a Mission was registered by Huberty as a nonprofit corporation
with the Colorado Secretary of State's Office.
Huberty, who originally incorporated the nonprofit in Hawaii in 2001, was listed
as president of Families with a Mission in Colorado incorporation papers.
Huberty was convicted of attempted sexual assault in Hawaii in January 2004 and
sentenced to 12 months in jail with six months suspended.
He also received five years of probation and is registered in Hawaii as sex
offender who has committed crimes against a minor. Because of the Hawaii
conviction, he is also registered in El Paso County.
The Hawaiian state sex offender registry lists Huberty's Monument home address -
which also is the mailing address for Families with a Mission.
Calls to Huberty's home - where the voice mail has a man named "Paul" saying to
leave a message and "God bless you" - were not returned Monday.
While serving with the U.S. Air Force in Germany in 1996, then-Lt. Col. Paul G.
Huberty was convicted of sodomy, indecent acts, and adultery involving a 17-year
girl who accompanied Huberty to Europe as his "legal ward," according to
military court records.
In the same trial, the 18-year Army veteran also was convicted of "dishonorably
fondling his genitals" during an incident involving two Dutch women at a public
swimming pool in the Netherlands.
Huberty, who was a married father of three at the time, was dismissed from the
military and sentenced to six months confinement, court records show.
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| Title: Re: ~~ Perverted Pastor Ted Haggard now associating with convicted Sex Offender ~~ |
29 Aug 2007 03:17:08 AM |
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On Aug 29, 7:24 am, "=B0 Shanghai Lil =B0" <Li...@Shanghai.cn> wrote:
By Alan Gathright And Tillie Fong, Rocky Mountain News
August 28, 2007
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In the same trial, the 18-year Army veteran also was convicted of "dishon=
orably
fondling his genitals" during an incident involving two Dutch women at a =
public
swimming pool in the Netherlands.
Interesting distinction! I wonder how one fondles one's genitals
"honourably".
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| User: "Martin" |
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29 Aug 2007 04:11:30 AM |
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Nosterill wrote:
On Aug 29, 7:24 am, "° Shanghai Lil °" <Li...@Shanghai.cn> wrote:
By Alan Gathright And Tillie Fong, Rocky Mountain News
August 28, 2007
<snip>
In the same trial, the 18-year Army veteran also was convicted of "dishonorably
fondling his genitals" during an incident involving two Dutch women at a public
swimming pool in the Netherlands.
Interesting distinction! I wonder how one fondles one's genitals
"honourably".
Carefully lifting them out of the way to dry underneeth is ok, swinging
them around your head shouting "way hey" isn't
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| User: "Nosterill" |
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| Title: Re: ~~ Perverted Pastor Ted Haggard now associating with convicted Sex Offender ~~ |
29 Aug 2007 06:05:20 AM |
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On Aug 29, 10:11 am, Martin <usen...@etiqa.co.uk> wrote:
Nosterill wrote:
On Aug 29, 7:24 am, "=B0 Shanghai Lil =B0" <Li...@Shanghai.cn> wrote:
By Alan Gathright And Tillie Fong, Rocky Mountain News
August 28, 2007
<snip>
In the same trial, the 18-year Army veteran also was convicted of "dis=
honorably
fondling his genitals" during an incident involving two Dutch women at=
a public
swimming pool in the Netherlands.
Interesting distinction! I wonder how one fondles one's genitals
"honourably".
Carefully lifting them out of the way to dry underneeth is ok, swinging
them around your head shouting "way hey" isn't
Well, so long as that's OK with the Dutch women........
Thinks: What about carefully lifting the Dutch women out of the way to
dry underneath?
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: ~~ Perverted Pastor Ted Haggard now associating with convicted Sex Offender ~~ |
29 Aug 2007 02:09:07 AM |
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On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 00:24:46 -0600, "° Shanghai Lil °"
<Lilly@Shanghai.cn> wrote:
While serving with the U.S. Air Force in Germany in 1996, then-Lt. Col. Paul G.
Huberty was convicted of sodomy, indecent acts, and adultery involving a 17-year
girl who accompanied Huberty to Europe as his "legal ward," according to
military court records.
In the same trial, the 18-year Army veteran also was convicted of "dishonorably
fondling his genitals" during an incident involving two Dutch women at a public
swimming pool in the Netherlands.
The facts; 1) he had consensual sex with a seventeen year old woman
and 2) a Dutch woman walking by a the mensroom at a public pool saw
him jacking off. Hardly offenses that warrant censure for life.
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| User: "° Shanghai Lil °" |
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29 Aug 2007 03:35:08 AM |
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On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 00:24:46 -0600, "° Shanghai Lil °"
<Lilly@Shanghai.cn> wrote:
While serving with the U.S. Air Force in Germany in 1996, then-Lt.
Col. Paul G. Huberty was convicted of sodomy, indecent acts, and
adultery involving a 17-year girl who accompanied Huberty to Europe
as his "legal ward," according to military court records.
In the same trial, the 18-year Army veteran also was convicted of
"dishonorably fondling his genitals" during an incident involving
two Dutch women at a public swimming pool in the Netherlands.
The facts; 1) he had consensual sex with a seventeen year old woman
Statutory RAPE in many states.
and 2) a Dutch woman walking by a the mensroom at a public pool saw
him jacking off.
So a French woman wouldn't have been offended ?
Hardly offenses that warrant censure for life.
Tell it to the MILLIONS of Sex Offenders branded for LIFE in the U$$A ...
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| User: "Jos" |
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| Title: Re: ~~ Perverted Pastor Ted Haggard now associating with convicted Sex Offender ~~ |
29 Aug 2007 08:20:04 PM |
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On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 07:09:07 GMT, wrote:
On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 00:24:46 -0600, "° Shanghai Lil °"
<Lilly@Shanghai.cn> wrote:
While serving with the U.S. Air Force in Germany in 1996, then-Lt. Col. Paul G.
Huberty was convicted of sodomy, indecent acts, and adultery involving a 17-year
girl who accompanied Huberty to Europe as his "legal ward," according to
military court records.
In the same trial, the 18-year Army veteran also was convicted of "dishonorably
fondling his genitals" during an incident involving two Dutch women at a public
swimming pool in the Netherlands.
The facts; 1) he had consensual sex with a seventeen year old woman
and 2) a Dutch woman walking by a the mensroom at a public pool saw
him jacking off. Hardly offenses that warrant censure for life.
If he was an ordinary citizen, yes. I fully agree. However, the person
in question is a reverend. And a very vocal reverend with regard to
how people should behave themselves, both privately and in public.
As he has obviously a lot of behavioral difficulties himself, he is
hardly the person to set the rules for everybody.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: ~~ Perverted Pastor Ted Haggard now associating with convicted Sex Offender ~~ |
31 Aug 2007 01:40:43 AM |
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On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 08:20:04 +0700, Jos <xwcruise@ksc15.th.com> wrote:
On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 07:09:07 GMT, wrote:
On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 00:24:46 -0600, "° Shanghai Lil °"
<Lilly@Shanghai.cn> wrote:
While serving with the U.S. Air Force in Germany in 1996, then-Lt. Col. Paul G.
Huberty was convicted of sodomy, indecent acts, and adultery involving a 17-year
girl who accompanied Huberty to Europe as his "legal ward," according to
military court records.
In the same trial, the 18-year Army veteran also was convicted of "dishonorably
fondling his genitals" during an incident involving two Dutch women at a public
swimming pool in the Netherlands.
The facts; 1) he had consensual sex with a seventeen year old woman
and 2) a Dutch woman walking by a the mensroom at a public pool saw
him jacking off. Hardly offenses that warrant censure for life.
If he was an ordinary citizen, yes. I fully agree. However, the person
in question is a reverend. And a very vocal reverend with regard to
how people should behave themselves, both privately and in public.
As he has obviously a lot of behavioral difficulties himself, he is
hardly the person to set the rules for everybody.
GET REAL! The man wasn't a Catholic priest...many men have had sex
with a young woman. many men jack off. If every man who ever had
consensual sex with a young woman and, at some time in his life, had
jacked off, wasn't allowed to set rules we would probably have no male
legislators or judges.
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