Religions > Atheism > ~~ Pope John Paul II was EUTHANIZED !! <= god's gonna be pissed ! ~~
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22 Sep 2007 03:57:53 AM |
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~~ Pope John Paul II was EUTHANIZED !! <= god's gonna be pissed ! ~~ |
Friday, Sep. 21, 2007
Was John Paul II Euthanized?
By Jeff Israely/Rome
In a provocative article, an Italian medical professor argues that Pope John
Paul II didn't just simply slip away as his weakness and illness overtook him in
April 2005. Intensive care specialist Dr. Lina Pavanelli has concluded that the
ailing Pope's April 2 death was caused by what the Catholic Church itself would
consider euthanasia. She bases this conclusion on her medical expertise and her
own observations of the ailing pontiff on television, as well as press reports
and a subsequent book by John Paul's personal physician. The failure to insert a
feeding tube into the patient until just a few days before he died accelerated
John Paul's death, Pavanelli concludes. Moreover, Pavanelli says she believes
that the Pope's doctors dutifully explained the situation to him, and thus she
surmises that it was the pontiff himself who likely refused the feeding tube
after he'd been twice rushed to the hospital in February and March. Catholics
are enjoined to pursue all means to prolong life.
The article, entitled "The Sweet Death of Karol Wojtyla" (using the Pope's birth
name) appears in the latest edition of Micromega, a highbrow Italian bi-monthly
that has frequently criticized the Vatican's stance on bioethics. The author,
who heads the anesthesiology and intensive care therapy school at the University
of Ferrara, says she decided to revisit the events around John Paul's death
after the Vatican took a hard line in a controversy last year in Italy over
euthanasia. Indeed her accusations are grave, questioning the Catholic Church's
strictly traditional stances on medical ethics, including the dictum from John
Paul's own 1995 encyclical Evangelium Vitae to use all modern means possible to
avoid death.
Recalling the Vatican's medical reports during John Paul's last days, Pavanelli
writes: "I'm surprised that I myself failed to critically examine the
information. I let my perceptions conform to the hope of recovery and the
official version, without confronting the clinical signs that I was seeing."
While the Vatican had expressed most of its concern about breathing difficulty,
which was alleviated with a tracheotomy, Pavanelli says a readily apparent loss
of weight, and an apparent difficulty to swallow, was not being addressed. "The
patient had died for reasons that were clearly not mentioned. Of all the
problems of the complicated clinical picture of the patient, the acute
respiratory insufficiency was not the principal threat to the life of the
patient. The Pope was dying from another consequence of the effects on the
[throat] muscles from his Parkinson's Disease... not treated: the incapacity to
swallow."
The Vatican quickly fired back this week. John Paul's longtime doctor Renato
Buzzonetti, who now monitors Pope Benedict XVI, said that doctors and John Paul
himself all acted to stave off death. "His treatment was never interrupted,"
Buzzonetti told the Rome daily La Repubblica. "Anyone who says otherwise is
mistaken." He added that a permanent nasal feeding tube was inserted three days
before the Pope's death when he could no longer sufficiently ingest food or
liquids. Buzzonetti did not specifically respond to Pavanelli's claim that John
Paul needed a tube weeks, not days, before he eventually died.
The polemics come just as the Vatican again weighed in on euthanasia. The
Church's doctrinal office released a one-page document, approved by Benedict,
that denounced the cutting off of food and water to patients in a vegetative
state even if they would never regain consciousness. This reaffirmed John Paul's
stance in 2004 during the battle over ending artificial feeding for the severely
brain-damaged Terri Schiavo, who was later taken off her feeding tube and died.
"The administration of food and water even by artificial means is, in principle,
an ordinary means of preserving life," said the Vatican ruling, which came in
response to questions from the U.S. Catholic Bishops Conference about what
constitutes ordinary and extraordinary life support.
The issue of euthanasia and the Church heated up in Italy last year after a man
named Piergiorgio Welby, who'd been on life support for nine years from the
effects of muscular dystrophy, asked for the right to die. Eventually, the life
support was suspended and he died. But when his wife, a practicing Catholic,
asked for a funeral in Church, the Vatican refused. Pavanelli says that this
episode prompted her to revisit John Paul's death.
The medical aspects of the Pope's final days are clearly difficult to verify
from afar, and the Vatican is convinced that the actions of the both its doctors
and its Pope were in absolute good faith. Of course, medical opinions can often
vary. So too can those on bioethics.
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22 Sep 2007 05:05:19 AM |
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Bart Bailey wrote:
In Message-ID:<5lk3oiF8jmsbU1@mid.individual.net> posted on Sat, 22
Sep 2007 02:57:53 -0600, ¥ UltraMan ¥ wrote: Begin
The polemics come just as the Vatican again weighed in on
euthanasia. The Church's doctrinal office released a one-page
document, approved by Benedict, that denounced the cutting off of
food and water to patients in a vegetative state even if they would
never regain consciousness. This reaffirmed John Paul's stance in
2004 during the battle over ending artificial feeding for the
severely brain-damaged Terri Schiavo, who was later taken off her
feeding tube and died.
Wouldn't resisting god's call to come home
be the ultimate act of blasphemy?
Religious cocksuckers are clueless, even toward their own superstitious
scriptures.
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| User: "•R L Measures" |
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22 Sep 2007 07:25:50 AM |
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In article <5lk7mvF78friU1@mid.individual.net>, "¥ UltraMan ¥"
<ultra@man.jp> wrote:
Bart Bailey wrote:
In Message-ID:<5lk3oiF8jmsbU1@mid.individual.net> posted on Sat, 22
Sep 2007 02:57:53 -0600, ¥ UltraMan ¥ wrote: Begin
The polemics come just as the Vatican again weighed in on
euthanasia. The Church's doctrinal office released a one-page
document, approved by Benedict, that denounced the cutting off of
food and water to patients in a vegetative state even if they would
never regain consciousness. This reaffirmed John Paul's stance in
2004 during the battle over ending artificial feeding for the
severely brain-damaged Terri Schiavo, who was later taken off her
feeding tube and died.
Wouldn't resisting god's call to come home
be the ultimate act of blasphemy?
Religious cocksuckers are clueless, even toward their own superstitious
scriptures.
• feeble or confused souls need lotsa guidance.
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| User: "Jim" |
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22 Sep 2007 01:17:18 PM |
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".R L Measures" <r@somis.org> wrote in message
news:r-2209070525500001@66-52-38-115.lsan.dock.net...
In article <5lk7mvF78friU1@mid.individual.net>, "¥ UltraMan ¥"
<ultra@man.jp> wrote:
Bart Bailey wrote:
In Message-ID:<5lk3oiF8jmsbU1@mid.individual.net> posted on Sat, 22
Sep 2007 02:57:53 -0600, ¥ UltraMan ¥ wrote: Begin
The polemics come just as the Vatican again weighed in on
euthanasia. The Church's doctrinal office released a one-page
document, approved by Benedict, that denounced the cutting off of
food and water to patients in a vegetative state even if they would
never regain consciousness. This reaffirmed John Paul's stance in
2004 during the battle over ending artificial feeding for the
severely brain-damaged Terri Schiavo, who was later taken off her
feeding tube and died.
Wouldn't resisting god's call to come home
be the ultimate act of blasphemy?
Religious cocksuckers are clueless, even toward their own superstitious
scriptures.
. feeble or confused souls need lotsa guidance.
Yet another little snipe from you RL, just like on most other threads you
post
to. Give us your guidance and wisdom so that we may decide for ourselves who
is feeble or confused. You might just post something to give the rest of us
a chortle or two.
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| User: "JESUS WAS A COCKSUCKER!" |
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22 Sep 2007 01:26:24 PM |
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"Jim" <jim.docherty@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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".R L Measures" <r@somis.org> wrote in message
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In article <5lk7mvF78friU1@mid.individual.net>, "¥ UltraMan ¥"
<ultra@man.jp> wrote:
Bart Bailey wrote:
In Message-ID:<5lk3oiF8jmsbU1@mid.individual.net> posted on Sat, 22
Sep 2007 02:57:53 -0600, ¥ UltraMan ¥ wrote: Begin
The polemics come just as the Vatican again weighed in on
euthanasia. The Church's doctrinal office released a one-page
document, approved by Benedict, that denounced the cutting off of
food and water to patients in a vegetative state even if they would
never regain consciousness. This reaffirmed John Paul's stance in
2004 during the battle over ending artificial feeding for the
severely brain-damaged Terri Schiavo, who was later taken off her
feeding tube and died.
Wouldn't resisting god's call to come home
be the ultimate act of blasphemy?
Religious cocksuckers are clueless, even toward their own superstitious
scriptures.
. feeble or confused souls need lotsa guidance.
Yet another little snipe from you RL, just like on most other threads you
post
to. Give us your guidance and wisdom so that we may decide for ourselves
who
is feeble or confused. You might just post something to give the rest of
us
a chortle or two.
jim-you beleive that gods and demons are real-that makes you the idiot
deserving no more than a laugh.
no one takes a christ stain seriously these days.
we know you and your ilk are sick fucks.
you and your kind are history.
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| User: "Jim" |
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22 Sep 2007 02:41:44 PM |
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"JESUS WAS A *****!" <christainssuck@bigdick.org> wrote in message
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In article <5lk7mvF78friU1@mid.individual.net>, "¥ UltraMan ¥"
<ultra@man.jp> wrote:
Bart Bailey wrote:
In Message-ID:<5lk3oiF8jmsbU1@mid.individual.net> posted on Sat, 22
Sep 2007 02:57:53 -0600, ¥ UltraMan ¥ wrote: Begin
The polemics come just as the Vatican again weighed in on
euthanasia. The Church's doctrinal office released a one-page
document, approved by Benedict, that denounced the cutting off of
food and water to patients in a vegetative state even if they would
never regain consciousness. This reaffirmed John Paul's stance in
2004 during the battle over ending artificial feeding for the
severely brain-damaged Terri Schiavo, who was later taken off her
feeding tube and died.
Wouldn't resisting god's call to come home
be the ultimate act of blasphemy?
Religious cocksuckers are clueless, even toward their own superstitious
scriptures.
. feeble or confused souls need lotsa guidance.
Yet another little snipe from you RL, just like on most other threads
you post
to. Give us your guidance and wisdom so that we may decide for ourselves
who
is feeble or confused. You might just post something to give the rest of
us
a chortle or two.
jim-you beleive that gods and demons are real-that makes you the idiot
deserving no more than a laugh.
no one takes a christ stain seriously these days.
we know you and your ilk are sick fucks.
you and your kind are history.
You sir are a fudd and I shall treat your post with the contempt it
deserves.
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| User: "JESUS WAS A COCKSUCKER!" |
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22 Sep 2007 03:12:05 PM |
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"Jim" <jim.docherty@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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"JESUS WAS A *****!" <christainssuck@bigdick.org> wrote in message
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"Jim" <jim.docherty@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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In article <5lk7mvF78friU1@mid.individual.net>, "¥ UltraMan ¥"
<ultra@man.jp> wrote:
Bart Bailey wrote:
In Message-ID:<5lk3oiF8jmsbU1@mid.individual.net> posted on Sat, 22
Sep 2007 02:57:53 -0600, ¥ UltraMan ¥ wrote: Begin
The polemics come just as the Vatican again weighed in on
euthanasia. The Church's doctrinal office released a one-page
document, approved by Benedict, that denounced the cutting off of
food and water to patients in a vegetative state even if they would
never regain consciousness. This reaffirmed John Paul's stance in
2004 during the battle over ending artificial feeding for the
severely brain-damaged Terri Schiavo, who was later taken off her
feeding tube and died.
Wouldn't resisting god's call to come home
be the ultimate act of blasphemy?
Religious cocksuckers are clueless, even toward their own
superstitious
scriptures.
. feeble or confused souls need lotsa guidance.
Yet another little snipe from you RL, just like on most other threads
you post
to. Give us your guidance and wisdom so that we may decide for ourselves
who
is feeble or confused. You might just post something to give the rest of
us
a chortle or two.
jim-you beleive that gods and demons are real-that makes you the idiot
deserving no more than a laugh.
no one takes a christ stain seriously these days.
we know you and your ilk are sick fucks.
you and your kind are history.
You sir are a fudd and I shall treat your post with the contempt it
deserves.
good for you-and while your at it-stick your head back in your *****.
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| User: "Jim" |
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22 Sep 2007 03:52:29 PM |
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"JESUS WAS A *****!" <christainssuck@bigdick.org> wrote in message
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"JESUS WAS A *****!" <christainssuck@bigdick.org> wrote in message
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".R L Measures" <r@somis.org> wrote in message
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In article <5lk7mvF78friU1@mid.individual.net>, "¥ UltraMan ¥"
<ultra@man.jp> wrote:
Bart Bailey wrote:
In Message-ID:<5lk3oiF8jmsbU1@mid.individual.net> posted on Sat, 22
Sep 2007 02:57:53 -0600, ¥ UltraMan ¥ wrote: Begin
The polemics come just as the Vatican again weighed in on
euthanasia. The Church's doctrinal office released a one-page
document, approved by Benedict, that denounced the cutting off of
food and water to patients in a vegetative state even if they
would
never regain consciousness. This reaffirmed John Paul's stance in
2004 during the battle over ending artificial feeding for the
severely brain-damaged Terri Schiavo, who was later taken off her
feeding tube and died.
Wouldn't resisting god's call to come home
be the ultimate act of blasphemy?
Religious cocksuckers are clueless, even toward their own
superstitious
scriptures.
. feeble or confused souls need lotsa guidance.
Yet another little snipe from you RL, just like on most other threads
you post
to. Give us your guidance and wisdom so that we may decide for
ourselves who
is feeble or confused. You might just post something to give the rest
of us
a chortle or two.
jim-you beleive that gods and demons are real-that makes you the idiot
deserving no more than a laugh.
no one takes a christ stain seriously these days.
we know you and your ilk are sick fucks.
you and your kind are history.
You sir are a fudd and I shall treat your post with the contempt it
deserves.
good for you-and while your at it-stick your head back in your *****.
Why don't you admit to your Mum that you are a total fudd. She might be
the only one that can help.
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| User: "JESUS WAS A COCKSUCKER!" |
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22 Sep 2007 04:46:51 PM |
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"Jim" <jim.docherty@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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"JESUS WAS A *****!" <christainssuck@bigdick.org> wrote in message
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"Jim" <jim.docherty@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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"JESUS WAS A *****!" <christainssuck@bigdick.org> wrote in message
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"Jim" <jim.docherty@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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".R L Measures" <r@somis.org> wrote in message
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In article <5lk7mvF78friU1@mid.individual.net>, "¥ UltraMan ¥"
<ultra@man.jp> wrote:
Bart Bailey wrote:
In Message-ID:<5lk3oiF8jmsbU1@mid.individual.net> posted on Sat,
22
Sep 2007 02:57:53 -0600, ¥ UltraMan ¥ wrote: Begin
The polemics come just as the Vatican again weighed in on
euthanasia. The Church's doctrinal office released a one-page
document, approved by Benedict, that denounced the cutting off of
food and water to patients in a vegetative state even if they
would
never regain consciousness. This reaffirmed John Paul's stance in
2004 during the battle over ending artificial feeding for the
severely brain-damaged Terri Schiavo, who was later taken off her
feeding tube and died.
Wouldn't resisting god's call to come home
be the ultimate act of blasphemy?
Religious cocksuckers are clueless, even toward their own
superstitious
scriptures.
. feeble or confused souls need lotsa guidance.
Yet another little snipe from you RL, just like on most other threads
you post
to. Give us your guidance and wisdom so that we may decide for
ourselves who
is feeble or confused. You might just post something to give the rest
of us
a chortle or two.
jim-you beleive that gods and demons are real-that makes you the idiot
deserving no more than a laugh.
no one takes a christ stain seriously these days.
we know you and your ilk are sick fucks.
you and your kind are history.
You sir are a fudd and I shall treat your post with the contempt it
deserves.
good for you-and while your at it-stick your head back in your *****.
Why don't you admit to your Mum that you are a total fudd. She might be
the only one that can help.
as soon as you stop sucking her ***** i will ask her.
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22 Sep 2007 02:31:31 PM |
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..R L Measures wrote:
"¥ UltraMan ¥"<ultra@man.jp> wrote:
Bart Bailey wrote:
¥ UltraMan ¥ wrote: Begin
The polemics come just as the Vatican again weighed in on
euthanasia. The Church's doctrinal office released a one-page
document, approved by Benedict, that denounced the cutting off of
food and water to patients in a vegetative state even if they would
never regain consciousness. This reaffirmed John Paul's stance in
2004 during the battle over ending artificial feeding for the
severely brain-damaged Terri Schiavo, who was later taken off her
feeding tube and died.
Wouldn't resisting god's call to come home
be the ultimate act of blasphemy?
Religious cocksuckers are clueless, even toward their own
superstitious scriptures.
. feeble or confused souls need lotsa guidance.
Then give them the GPS coordinates to my personal collection plate ...
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| User: "•R L Measures" |
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22 Sep 2007 03:31:40 PM |
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In article <5ll8oaF8rp7bU1@mid.individual.net>, "_ Prof. Jonez _"
<theprof@jonez.net> wrote:
.R L Measures wrote:
"¥ UltraMan ¥"<ultra@man.jp> wrote:
Bart Bailey wrote:
¥ UltraMan ¥ wrote: Begin
The polemics come just as the Vatican again weighed in on
euthanasia. The Church's doctrinal office released a one-page
document, approved by Benedict, that denounced the cutting off of
food and water to patients in a vegetative state even if they would
never regain consciousness. This reaffirmed John Paul's stance in
2004 during the battle over ending artificial feeding for the
severely brain-damaged Terri Schiavo, who was later taken off her
feeding tube and died.
Wouldn't resisting god's call to come home
be the ultimate act of blasphemy?
Religious cocksuckers are clueless, even toward their own
superstitious scriptures.
. feeble or confused souls need lotsa guidance.
Then give them the GPS coordinates to my personal collection plate ...
guffaw
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22 Sep 2007 03:48:08 PM |
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".R L Measures" <r@somis.org> wrote in message
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In article <5ll8oaF8rp7bU1@mid.individual.net>, "_ Prof. Jonez _"
<theprof@jonez.net> wrote:
.R L Measures wrote:
"¥ UltraMan ¥"<ultra@man.jp> wrote:
Bart Bailey wrote:
¥ UltraMan ¥ wrote: Begin
The polemics come just as the Vatican again weighed in on
euthanasia. The Church's doctrinal office released a one-page
document, approved by Benedict, that denounced the cutting off of
food and water to patients in a vegetative state even if they would
never regain consciousness. This reaffirmed John Paul's stance in
2004 during the battle over ending artificial feeding for the
severely brain-damaged Terri Schiavo, who was later taken off her
feeding tube and died.
Wouldn't resisting god's call to come home
be the ultimate act of blasphemy?
Religious cocksuckers are clueless, even toward their own
superstitious scriptures.
. feeble or confused souls need lotsa guidance.
Then give them the GPS coordinates to my personal collection plate ...
guffaw
Make that guffaws as well as chortles RL..........................waiting!
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22 Sep 2007 06:29:45 PM |
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In article <TaidnRIwBokN4mjbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bt.com>, "Jim"
<jim.docherty@btinternet.com> wrote:
".R L Measures" <r@somis.org> wrote in message
news:r-2209071331400001@66-52-38-36.lsan.dock.net...
In article <5ll8oaF8rp7bU1@mid.individual.net>, "_ Prof. Jonez _"
<theprof@jonez.net> wrote:
.R L Measures wrote:
"¥ UltraMan ¥"<ultra@man.jp> wrote:
Bart Bailey wrote:
¥ UltraMan ¥ wrote: Begin
The polemics come just as the Vatican again weighed in on
euthanasia. The Church's doctrinal office released a one-page
document, approved by Benedict, that denounced the cutting off of
food and water to patients in a vegetative state even if they would
never regain consciousness. This reaffirmed John Paul's stance in
2004 during the battle over ending artificial feeding for the
severely brain-damaged Terri Schiavo, who was later taken off her
feeding tube and died.
Wouldn't resisting god's call to come home
be the ultimate act of blasphemy?
Religious cocksuckers are clueless, even toward their own
superstitious scriptures.
. feeble or confused souls need lotsa guidance.
Then give them the GPS coordinates to my personal collection plate ...
guffaw
Make that guffaws as well as chortles RL..........................waiting!
there's one born every minute. cheerz
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22 Sep 2007 06:47:51 PM |
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".R L Measures" <r@somis.org> wrote in message
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In article <TaidnRIwBokN4mjbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bt.com>, "Jim"
<jim.docherty@btinternet.com> wrote:
".R L Measures" <r@somis.org> wrote in message
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In article <5ll8oaF8rp7bU1@mid.individual.net>, "_ Prof. Jonez _"
<theprof@jonez.net> wrote:
.R L Measures wrote:
"¥ UltraMan ¥"<ultra@man.jp> wrote:
Bart Bailey wrote:
¥ UltraMan ¥ wrote: Begin
The polemics come just as the Vatican again weighed in on
euthanasia. The Church's doctrinal office released a one-page
document, approved by Benedict, that denounced the cutting off of
food and water to patients in a vegetative state even if they
would
never regain consciousness. This reaffirmed John Paul's stance in
2004 during the battle over ending artificial feeding for the
severely brain-damaged Terri Schiavo, who was later taken off her
feeding tube and died.
Wouldn't resisting god's call to come home
be the ultimate act of blasphemy?
Religious cocksuckers are clueless, even toward their own
superstitious scriptures.
. feeble or confused souls need lotsa guidance.
Then give them the GPS coordinates to my personal collection plate ...
guffaw
Make that guffaws as well as chortles
RL..........................waiting!
there's one born every minute. cheerz
For sure, but are you one of them? You know, a smartarse who readily
criticises but offers nothing more. A numbnut that takes pleasure in giving
offence for the sake of it without something better to offer. Are you one of
those?
Tell us RL, are you a philistine or a sage with a message? I know what my
guess is.
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In article <s6adnXOUZa0iNGjbnZ2dnUVZ8q2dnZ2d@bt.com>, "Jim"
<jim.docherty@btinternet.com> wrote:
".R L Measures" <r@somis.org> wrote in message
news:r-2209071629450001@66-52-38-5.lsan.dock.net...
In article <TaidnRIwBokN4mjbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bt.com>, "Jim"
<jim.docherty@btinternet.com> wrote:
".R L Measures" <r@somis.org> wrote in message
news:r-2209071331400001@66-52-38-36.lsan.dock.net...
In article <5ll8oaF8rp7bU1@mid.individual.net>, "_ Prof. Jonez _"
<theprof@jonez.net> wrote:
.R L Measures wrote:
"¥ UltraMan ¥"<ultra@man.jp> wrote:
Bart Bailey wrote:
¥ UltraMan ¥ wrote: Begin
The polemics come just as the Vatican again weighed in on
euthanasia. The Church's doctrinal office released a one-page
document, approved by Benedict, that denounced the cutting off of
food and water to patients in a vegetative state even if they
would
never regain consciousness. This reaffirmed John Paul's stance in
2004 during the battle over ending artificial feeding for the
severely brain-damaged Terri Schiavo, who was later taken off her
feeding tube and died.
Wouldn't resisting god's call to come home
be the ultimate act of blasphemy?
Religious cocksuckers are clueless, even toward their own
superstitious scriptures.
. feeble or confused souls need lotsa guidance.
Then give them the GPS coordinates to my personal collection plate ...
guffaw
Make that guffaws as well as chortles
RL..........................waiting!
there's one born every minute. cheerz
For sure, but are you one of them?
** I've been suckered two times by an organized religion, but - thank God
- I got the hell out when I began seeing zombie-eyes on the devout. I
have never joined an organizedd religion.
, but You know, a smartarse who readily
criticises but offers nothing more.
** I am not here to proffer an organized religion.
A numbnut that takes pleasure in giving
offence for the sake of it without something better to offer. Are you one of
those?
Tell us RL, are you a philistine or a sage with a message?
** I'm just a high-mileage old fart who thinks that thinking for one's
self is smart.
- " I do not feel obligated to believe that the same God who has endowed
us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forego their use."
- Galileo
I know what my
guess is.
** congrats
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".R L Measures" <r@somis.org> wrote in message
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In article <s6adnXOUZa0iNGjbnZ2dnUVZ8q2dnZ2d@bt.com>, "Jim"
<jim.docherty@btinternet.com> wrote:
".R L Measures" <r@somis.org> wrote in message
news:r-2209071629450001@66-52-38-5.lsan.dock.net...
In article <TaidnRIwBokN4mjbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bt.com>, "Jim"
<jim.docherty@btinternet.com> wrote:
".R L Measures" <r@somis.org> wrote in message
news:r-2209071331400001@66-52-38-36.lsan.dock.net...
In article <5ll8oaF8rp7bU1@mid.individual.net>, "_ Prof. Jonez _"
<theprof@jonez.net> wrote:
.R L Measures wrote:
"¥ UltraMan ¥"<ultra@man.jp> wrote:
Bart Bailey wrote:
¥ UltraMan ¥ wrote: Begin
The polemics come just as the Vatican again weighed in on
euthanasia. The Church's doctrinal office released a one-page
document, approved by Benedict, that denounced the cutting off
of
food and water to patients in a vegetative state even if they
would
never regain consciousness. This reaffirmed John Paul's stance
in
2004 during the battle over ending artificial feeding for the
severely brain-damaged Terri Schiavo, who was later taken off
her
feeding tube and died.
Wouldn't resisting god's call to come home
be the ultimate act of blasphemy?
Religious cocksuckers are clueless, even toward their own
superstitious scriptures.
. feeble or confused souls need lotsa guidance.
Then give them the GPS coordinates to my personal collection plate
...
guffaw
Make that guffaws as well as chortles
RL..........................waiting!
there's one born every minute. cheerz
For sure, but are you one of them?
** I've been suckered two times by an organized religion, but - thank God
- I got the hell out when I began seeing zombie-eyes on the devout. I
have never joined an organizedd religion.
, but You know, a smartarse who readily
criticises but offers nothing more.
** I am not here to proffer an organized religion.
A numbnut that takes pleasure in giving
offence for the sake of it without something better to offer. Are you one
of
those?
Tell us RL, are you a philistine or a sage with a message?
** I'm just a high-mileage old fart who thinks that thinking for one's
self is smart.
- " I do not feel obligated to believe that the same God who has endowed
us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forego their use."
- Galileo
I know what my
guess is.
A pompous old fart to boot. No mention of Faith in your answer I see but
then again there are still survivors in the flat earth society, Spiritually
speaking of course. Free thinking is allowed but only if you have enough
gears. Without faith you never get out of second and only end up scoffing at
those who reach higher, just like you Mr 2nd gear Measures. I bet you
swallowed that man actually walked on the moon, and you scoff at us!
Then again, giving offence and chortling at others who do so means you are
still on the starting grid when it comes to decent human behaviour.
Jim
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23 Sep 2007 06:43:11 AM |
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In article <PeidnU1mGKFyUGjbnZ2dnUVZ8v-dnZ2d@bt.com>, "Jim"
<jim.docherty@btinternet.com> wrote:
".R L Measures" <r@somis.org> wrote in message
news:r-2209071841000001@66-52-38-212.lsan.dock.net...
In article <s6adnXOUZa0iNGjbnZ2dnUVZ8q2dnZ2d@bt.com>, "Jim"
<jim.docherty@btinternet.com> wrote:
".R L Measures" <r@somis.org> wrote in message
news:r-2209071629450001@66-52-38-5.lsan.dock.net...
In article <TaidnRIwBokN4mjbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bt.com>, "Jim"
<jim.docherty@btinternet.com> wrote:
".R L Measures" <r@somis.org> wrote in message
news:r-2209071331400001@66-52-38-36.lsan.dock.net...
In article <5ll8oaF8rp7bU1@mid.individual.net>, "_ Prof. Jonez _"
<theprof@jonez.net> wrote:
.R L Measures wrote:
"¥ UltraMan ¥"<ultra@man.jp> wrote:
Bart Bailey wrote:
¥ UltraMan ¥ wrote: Begin
The polemics come just as the Vatican again weighed in on
euthanasia. The Church's doctrinal office released a one-page
document, approved by Benedict, that denounced the cutting off
of
food and water to patients in a vegetative state even if they
would
never regain consciousness. This reaffirmed John Paul's stance
in
2004 during the battle over ending artificial feeding for the
severely brain-damaged Terri Schiavo, who was later taken off
her
feeding tube and died.
Wouldn't resisting god's call to come home
be the ultimate act of blasphemy?
Religious cocksuckers are clueless, even toward their own
superstitious scriptures.
. feeble or confused souls need lotsa guidance.
Then give them the GPS coordinates to my personal collection plate
...
guffaw
Make that guffaws as well as chortles
RL..........................waiting!
there's one born every minute. cheerz
For sure, but are you one of them?
** I've been suckered two times by an organized religion, but - thank God
- I got the hell out when I began seeing zombie-eyes on the devout. I
have never joined an organizedd religion.
, but You know, a smartarse who readily
criticises but offers nothing more.
** I am not here to proffer an organized religion.
A numbnut that takes pleasure in giving
offence for the sake of it without something better to offer. Are you one
of those?
Tell us RL, are you a philistine or a sage with a message?
** I'm just a high-mileage old fart who thinks that thinking for one's
self is smart.
- " I do not feel obligated to believe that the same God who has endowed
us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forego their use."
- Galileo
I know what my guess is.
A pompous old fart to boot. No mention of Faith in your answer I see but
then again there are still survivors in the flat earth society,
** indeed. Do they have a Web site?
Spiritually speaking of course. Free thinking is allowed but only if you
have enough
gears. Without faith you never get out of second and only end up scoffing at
those who reach higher, just like you Mr 2nd gear Measures. I bet you
swallowed that man actually walked on the moon, and you scoff at us!
Then again, giving offence and chortling at others who do so means you are
still on the starting grid when it comes to decent human behaviour.
** I know I am what I am, that I can usually spot a scam, but I know not
which gear I'm presently in. My own opinion is that laughter is the most
likely medicine to cure religious addiction.
cheerz, Jim
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22 Sep 2007 04:54:36 AM |
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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 02:57:53 -0600, "¥ UltraMan ¥" <ultra@man.jp>
wrote:
Friday, Sep. 21, 2007
Was John Paul II Euthanized?
By Jeff Israely/Rome
In a provocative article, an Italian medical professor argues that Pope John
Paul II didn't just simply slip away as his weakness and illness overtook him in
April 2005. I
Who, in the REAL world, gives a toss?
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22 Sep 2007 05:29:30 AM |
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"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 02:57:53 -0600, "¥ UltraMan ¥" <ultra@man.jp>
wrote:
Friday, Sep. 21, 2007
Was John Paul II Euthanized?
By Jeff Israely/Rome
In a provocative article, an Italian medical professor argues that Pope
John
Paul II didn't just simply slip away as his weakness and illness overtook
him in
April 2005. I
Who, in the REAL world, gives a toss?
Plenty of people. There were all kinds of rumors about
him being murdered due to being too liberal for the thugs
taking over the Church. Or, was that the previous Pope?
It gets hard to tell after awhile with the Church Mafia.
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22 Sep 2007 07:44:15 AM |
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In article <57edncaeaevAc2nbnZ2dnUVZ_gmdnZ2d@comcast.com>, "Michelle
Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:ghp9f3962lqua0n1b05flpthofih8u43t2@4ax.com...
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 02:57:53 -0600, "¥ UltraMan ¥" <ultra@man.jp>
wrote:
Friday, Sep. 21, 2007
Was John Paul II Euthanized?
By Jeff Israely/Rome
In a provocative article, an Italian medical professor argues that Pope
John
Paul II didn't just simply slip away as his weakness and illness overtook
him in
April 2005. I
Who, in the REAL world, gives a toss?
Plenty of people. There were all kinds of rumors about
him being murdered due to being too liberal for the thugs
taking over the Church. Or, was that the previous Pope?
• it was Albino Luciani, Pope John Paul I. His mistake was announcing
that he was going to authorize a forensic audit of the RCC's Institute
for Religious Works - a.k.a., the Vatican bank. Only 34-days sitting on
the throne of Pope Peter, a bedtime snack of fresh strawberries, and
presto, Al was sitting with the Blessed Virgin Mary.
It gets hard to tell after awhile with the Church Mafia.
• The Roman Curia / Church Mafia would not allow a blood sample of the
deceased pope to be saved in order save them from the possibility of
having to explain why traces of foxglove plant extract (a.k.a. digitalis)
was present.
"Albino Luciani had a dream. He dreamed of a Roman Catholic Church that
would truly respond to the people on vital issues such as artificial birth
control. He dreamed of a church that would dispense with the wealth,
power, and prestige it had acquired through Vatican, Incorporated; of a
Church that would get out of the marketplace; where the message of Christ
had become tainted; of a Church that would rely on what has always been
its greatest asset, its source of true power, its greatest claim to a
unique prestige; the Gospel."
-- David A. Yallop. In God's Name - An Investigation into the Murder of
Pope John Paul I. ISBN 0-553-24855-3
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22 Sep 2007 06:44:43 PM |
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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 05:44:15 -0700, (•R L Measures) wrote:
"Albino Luciani had a dream. He dreamed of a Roman Catholic Church that
would truly respond to the people on vital issues such as artificial birth
control. He dreamed of a church that would dispense with the wealth,
power, and prestige it had acquired through Vatican, Incorporated; of a
Church that would get out of the marketplace; where the message of Christ
had become tainted; of a Church that would rely on what has always been
its greatest asset, its source of true power, its greatest claim to a
unique prestige; the Gospel."
-- David A. Yallop. In God's Name - An Investigation into the Murder of
Pope John Paul I. ISBN 0-553-24855-3
The Church isn't interested in saving souls, and never has been. Its
goal has always been saving the Church.
--
Al at Webdingers dot com
"They laughed at Newton, they laughed at Einstein, but they also laughed at
Bozo the Clown."
- Carl Sagan
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22 Sep 2007 08:30:28 PM |
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In article <14abf3dfu13ufhqi7218dve07nl3f1nbvs@4ax.com>, Al Klein
<rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 05:44:15 -0700, (•R L Measures) wrote:
"Albino Luciani had a dream. He dreamed of a Roman Catholic Church that
would truly respond to the people on vital issues such as artificial birth
control. He dreamed of a church that would dispense with the wealth,
power, and prestige it had acquired through Vatican, Incorporated; of a
Church that would get out of the marketplace; where the message of Christ
had become tainted; of a Church that would rely on what has always been
its greatest asset, its source of true power, its greatest claim to a
unique prestige; the Gospel."
-- David A. Yallop. In God's Name - An Investigation into the Murder of
Pope John Paul I. ISBN 0-553-24855-3
The Church isn't interested in saving souls, and never has been. Its
goal has always been saving the Church.
• Even a moron could have figured out that hiding priests who play hide
the sausage with altar-boys would cause maximal trouble for the org.
Peter Comestor saw this one coming 9-centuries ago.
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22 Sep 2007 08:48:44 PM |
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".R L Measures" <> wrote in message
news:r-2209071830280001@66-52-38-212.lsan.dock.net...
In article <14abf3dfu13ufhqi7218dve07nl3f1nbvs@4ax.com>, Al Klein
<rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 05:44:15 -0700, (.R L Measures) wrote:
"Albino Luciani had a dream. He dreamed of a Roman Catholic Church that
would truly respond to the people on vital issues such as artificial
birth
control. He dreamed of a church that would dispense with the wealth,
power, and prestige it had acquired through Vatican, Incorporated; of a
Church that would get out of the marketplace; where the message of
Christ
had become tainted; of a Church that would rely on what has always been
its greatest asset, its source of true power, its greatest claim to a
unique prestige; the Gospel."
-- David A. Yallop. In God's Name - An Investigation into the Murder of
Pope John Paul I. ISBN 0-553-24855-3
The Church isn't interested in saving souls, and never has been. Its
goal has always been saving the Church.
. Even a moron could have figured out that hiding priests who play hide
the sausage with altar-boys would cause maximal trouble for the org.
Peter Comestor saw this one coming 9-centuries ago.
Condemning the sin but not the sinner goes back much further.
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23 Sep 2007 01:00:39 PM |
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On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 02:48:44 +0100, "Jim"
<jim.docherty@btinternet.com> wrote:
".R L Measures" < > wrote in message
news:r-2209071830280001@66-52-38-212.lsan.dock.net...
In article <14abf3dfu13ufhqi7218dve07nl3f1nbvs@4ax.com>, Al Klein
<rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 05:44:15 -0700, (.R L Measures) wrote:
"Albino Luciani had a dream. He dreamed of a Roman Catholic Church that
would truly respond to the people on vital issues such as artificial
birth
control. He dreamed of a church that would dispense with the wealth,
power, and prestige it had acquired through Vatican, Incorporated; of a
Church that would get out of the marketplace; where the message of
Christ
had become tainted; of a Church that would rely on what has always been
its greatest asset, its source of true power, its greatest claim to a
unique prestige; the Gospel."
-- David A. Yallop. In God's Name - An Investigation into the Murder of
Pope John Paul I. ISBN 0-553-24855-3
The Church isn't interested in saving souls, and never has been. Its
goal has always been saving the Church.
. Even a moron could have figured out that hiding priests who play hide
the sausage with altar-boys would cause maximal trouble for the org.
Peter Comestor saw this one coming 9-centuries ago.
Condemning the sin but not the sinner goes back much further.
What's wrong with condemning the sinner - to a life of striped
sunlight?
--
Al at Webdingers dot com
"They laughed at Newton, they laughed at Einstein, but they also laughed at
Bozo the Clown."
- Carl Sagan
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24 Sep 2007 01:28:09 PM |
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Al Klein wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 02:48:44 +0100, "Jim"
<jim.docherty@btinternet.com> wrote:
".R L Measures" < > wrote in message
news:r-2209071830280001@66-52-38-212.lsan.dock.net...
In article <14abf3dfu13ufhqi7218dve07nl3f1nbvs@4ax.com>, Al Klein
<rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 05:44:15 -0700, (.R L Measures)
wrote:
"Albino Luciani had a dream. He dreamed of a Roman Catholic
Church that would truly respond to the people on vital issues
such as artificial birth
control. He dreamed of a church that would dispense with the
wealth, power, and prestige it had acquired through Vatican,
Incorporated; of a Church that would get out of the marketplace;
where the message of Christ
had become tainted; of a Church that would rely on what has
always been its greatest asset, its source of true power, its
greatest claim to a unique prestige; the Gospel."
-- David A. Yallop. In God's Name - An Investigation into the
Murder of Pope John Paul I. ISBN 0-553-24855-3
The Church isn't interested in saving souls, and never has been.
Its goal has always been saving the Church.
. Even a moron could have figured out that hiding priests who play
hide the sausage with altar-boys would cause maximal trouble for
the org. Peter Comestor saw this one coming 9-centuries ago.
Condemning the sin but not the sinner goes back much further.
What's wrong with condemning the sinner - to a life of striped
sunlight?
Or an eternity in hellfire ?
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24 Sep 2007 04:07:35 PM |
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In article <5lqdpkF9gdo0U1@mid.individual.net>, "_ Prof. Jonez _"
<theprof@jonez.net> wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 02:48:44 +0100, "Jim"
<jim.docherty@btinternet.com> wrote:
".R L Measures" < > wrote in message
news:r-2209071830280001@66-52-38-212.lsan.dock.net...
In article <14abf3dfu13ufhqi7218dve07nl3f1nbvs@4ax.com>, Al Klein
<rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 05:44:15 -0700, (.R L Measures)
wrote:
"Albino Luciani had a dream. He dreamed of a Roman Catholic
Church that would truly respond to the people on vital issues
such as artificial birth
control. He dreamed of a church that would dispense with the
wealth, power, and prestige it had acquired through Vatican,
Incorporated; of a Church that would get out of the marketplace;
where the message of Christ
had become tainted; of a Church that would rely on what has
always been its greatest asset, its source of true power, its
greatest claim to a unique prestige; the Gospel."
-- David A. Yallop. In God's Name - An Investigation into the
Murder of Pope John Paul I. ISBN 0-553-24855-3
The Church isn't interested in saving souls, and never has been.
Its goal has always been saving the Church.
. Even a moron could have figured out that hiding priests who play
hide the sausage with altar-boys would cause maximal trouble for
the org. Peter Comestor saw this one coming 9-centuries ago.
Condemning the sin but not the sinner goes back much further.
What's wrong with condemning the sinner - to a life of striped
sunlight?
Or an eternity in hellfire ?
• Hell might not be all that bad for gays since there are reportedly a
plethora of incubi there. and my guess is that, as is the case here on
earth, c. 10% of 'em are gay.
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22 Sep 2007 08:43:43 PM |
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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 18:30:28 -0700, (•R L Measures) wrote:
In article <14abf3dfu13ufhqi7218dve07nl3f1nbvs@4ax.com>, Al Klein
<rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 05:44:15 -0700, (? L Measures) wrote:
"Albino Luciani had a dream. He dreamed of a Roman Catholic Church that
would truly respond to the people on vital issues such as artificial birth
control. He dreamed of a church that would dispense with the wealth,
power, and prestige it had acquired through Vatican, Incorporated; of a
Church that would get out of the marketplace; where the message of Christ
had become tainted; of a Church that would rely on what has always been
its greatest asset, its source of true power, its greatest claim to a
unique prestige; the Gospel."
-- David A. Yallop. In God's Name - An Investigation into the Murder of
Pope John Paul I. ISBN 0-553-24855-3
The Church isn't interested in saving souls, and never has been. Its
goal has always been saving the Church.
? Even a moron could have figured out that hiding priests who play hide
the sausage with altar-boys would cause maximal trouble for the org.
Peter Comestor saw this one coming 9-centuries ago.
And anyone could see that the Mafia killing anyone they don't like
would cause trouble, too.
But they get away with it because they use their power to suppress
effective criticism.
It has only been of late that the RCC's power has waned slightly.
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In article <93hbf39eskfqlj54n0l5pa03lii072eae9@4ax.com>,
mikegray@newsguy.com wrote:
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 18:30:28 -0700, (•R L Measures) wrote:
In article <14abf3dfu13ufhqi7218dve07nl3f1nbvs@4ax.com>, Al Klein
<rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 05:44:15 -0700, (? L Measures) wrote:
"Albino Luciani had a dream. He dreamed of a Roman Catholic Church that
would truly respond to the people on vital issues such as artificial birth
control. He dreamed of a church that would dispense with the wealth,
power, and prestige it had acquired through Vatican, Incorporated; of a
Church that would get out of the marketplace; where the message of Christ
had become tainted; of a Church that would rely on what has always been
its greatest asset, its source of true power, its greatest claim to a
unique prestige; the Gospel."
-- David A. Yallop. In God's Name - An Investigation into the Murder of
Pope John Paul I. ISBN 0-553-24855-3
The Church isn't interested in saving souls, and never has been. Its
goal has always been saving the Church.
? Even a moron could have figured out that hiding priests who play hide
the sausage with altar-boys would cause maximal trouble for the org.
Peter Comestor saw this one coming 9-centuries ago.
And anyone could see that the Mafia killing anyone they don't like
would cause trouble, too.
** The Mafia usually wants press coverage - especially for hits on
rivals. In the Mafia, whacking children is definitely against the rules,
but in the case of God's Holy Church, children were the victims, plus the
Church most definitely did not want any press coverage. Up until the age
of the Internet, the Church was able to pay hush money to the families of
altar-boys and suppress the unpleasant truth about what was being said in
its confessional booths. In January, 2002, thanks largely to the
Internet, the feces hit the fan and the pedophile-priest scandal exploded
under the foundation of the org.
But they get away with it because they use their power to suppress
effective criticism.
** Agreed. Sigmund Freud's 1927 magazine article "The Future of an
Illusion" -- now a 56 page book published by W. W. Norton Co., originally
published in Internationaler Psychoanalytischer Verlag, provided insight
into the human emotions that are expertly manipulated during Catholic
instruction/inculcation. Freud concluded that organized religions are
designed as a father substitute so that they will appeal to the child in
all of us. The RCC counterattacked by publishing a book of her own, "The
Illusion of the Future", that tried to discredit Freud's theories. Freud
was alarmed by the attentions of the church. He began writing a book
about organized religion titled "Moses and Monotheism" -- which earned him
the wrath of Catholicism and Judaism! Near the end of Part-I, Freud said
--
"Psychoanalytic research is in any case the subject of suspicious
attention from Catholicism."
He went on to say that the church's political power was such that it
could have all work in psychoanalysis outlawed in Austria. Again quoting:
"Such violent means of suppression are by no means alien to the Catholic
church; she feels it rather an intrusion into her privileges when other
people resort to the same means."
(the means being psychoanalytic-based thought-control tools)
Freud decided not publish any part of this book until after he moved to
England -- which seemed like a pretty good idea at the time anyway since
Freud was on Der Fuehrer's must-gas list.
It has only been of late that the RCC's power has waned slightly.
** Paying sodomized and felated altar-boys >$2-B is hardly good
publicity. The Archdiocese of Los Angeles alone accounts for c. $750-M of
that total. There was apparently a whole lota butt-rammin' going on.
cheers, Al.
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22 Sep 2007 07:23:42 AM |
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In article <ghp9f3962lqua0n1b05flpthofih8u43t2@4ax.com>,
mikegray@newsguy.com wrote:
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 02:57:53 -0600, "¥ UltraMan ¥" <ultra@man.jp>
wrote:
Friday, Sep. 21, 2007
Was John Paul II Euthanized?
By Jeff Israely/Rome
In a provocative article, an Italian medical professor argues that Pope John
Paul II didn't just simply slip away as his weakness and illness
overtook him in
April 2005. I
Who, in the REAL world, gives a toss?
chortles
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Since when does the Catholic Church practice what it preaches?
E.g. we have the world's largest organized group of homosexuals
running around trying to "defend" marriage. Why do you expect
them to be any less hypocritical on the issue of euthanasia?
Even Jesus told us to do as they say, not as they do.
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22 Sep 2007 05:28:51 PM |
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<nospam@sbcglobal.invalid.net> wrote in message
news:FqgJi.28372$eY.16487@newssvr13.news.prodigy.net...
Since when does the Catholic Church practice what it preaches?
E.g. we have the world's largest organized group of homosexuals
running around trying to "defend" marriage. Why do you expect
them to be any less hypocritical on the issue of euthanasia?
Even Jesus told us to do as they say, not as they do.
Gobbledegook, yet another intellectual and historical pygmy. (apologies to
the Pygmies)
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