Religions > Atheism > ** POPE PROCLAIMS HELL 'EXISTS AND IS ETERNAL' <= LOL! Burn in it then, Asswipe! **
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"_ Prof. Jonez _" |
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26 Mar 2007 08:39:37 PM |
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** POPE PROCLAIMS HELL 'EXISTS AND IS ETERNAL' <= LOL! Burn in it then, Asswipe! ** |
POPE PROCLAIMS HELL 'EXISTS AND IS ETERNAL'
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March 26, 2007 -- ROME - Hell is a place where sinners burn in an eternal fire,
and not just a religious symbol designed to galvanise the faithful, the Pope has
said.
God's mercy and love are great, but those who reject him should know that hell
"exists and is eternal, even if nobody talks about it much any more," Pope
Benedict XVI proclaimed during a weekend visit to a Rome parish.
The Pope, who as Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger was head of Catholic doctrine, noted
that "forgiveness of sins" for those who repent was a cornerstone of Christian
belief. He recalled that Jesus had forgiven the "woman taken in adultery" and
prevented her from being stoned to death, observing: "He that is without sin
among you, let him first cast a stone at her."
God had given men and women free will to choose whether "spontaneously to accept
salvation...the Christian faith is not imposed on anyone."
As a theologian, the pope wrote about hell on several occasions. In the 1968
book, Introduction to Christianity, he described hell as a state of existential
abandonment, "the loneliness into which love can no longer reach."
In "God and the World," a book-length interview in 2000, he said the church
reminds people of heaven and hell in order to underline that "there is a
responsibility before God, that there is a judgment, that human life can either
turn out right or come to disaster."
Vatican officials said that the Pope - who is also the Bishop of Rome - had been
speaking in "straightfoward" language "like a parish priest." He had wanted to
reinforce the new Catholic catechism, which holds that Hell is a "state of
eternal separation from God," to be understood "symbolically rather than
physically."
According to historians, Hell was misused in the Middle Ages to scare the
impressionable with "horrific visions" of damnation, as described in Dante's
Inferno. It's pedigree, however, went back to Ancient Egypt and the Greek idea
of Hades, and was described by St Matthew as a place of "everlasting fire"
(Matthew xxv, 41).
The problem historians say they find, is not only that our sense of sin has
declined, but also that the world wars of the 20th century created a Hell on
Earth as bad as anything imaginable.
In 1999 Pope John Paul II declared that Heaven was "neither an abstraction nor a
physical place in the clouds, but that fullness of communion with God which is
the goal of human life." Hell, by contrast, was "the ultimate consequence of sin
itself... Rather than a place, Hell indicates the state of those who freely and
definitively separate themselves from God, the source of all life and joy."
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: ** POPE PROCLAIMS HELL 'EXISTS AND IS ETERNAL' <= LOL! Burn in it then, Asswipe! ** |
26 Mar 2007 09:42:26 PM |
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"_ Prof. Jonez _" <theprof@jonez.net> wrote in message
news:56rautF29r7q3U1@mid.individual.net...
POPE PROCLAIMS HELL 'EXISTS AND IS ETERNAL'
Post Wire Services
March 26, 2007 -- ROME - Hell is a place where sinners burn in an eternal
fire, and not just a religious symbol designed to galvanise the faithful,
the Pope has said.
God's mercy and love are great, but those who reject him should know that
hell "exists and is eternal, even if nobody talks about it much any more,"
Pope Benedict XVI proclaimed during a weekend visit to a Rome parish.
Then obviously the supposed god's mercy and love isn't great. By definition.
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Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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| User: "Jeckyl" |
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| Title: Re: ** POPE PROCLAIMS HELL 'EXISTS AND IS ETERNAL' <= LOL! Burn in it then, Asswipe! ** |
26 Mar 2007 10:10:13 PM |
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
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"_ Prof. Jonez _" <theprof@jonez.net> wrote in message
news:56rautF29r7q3U1@mid.individual.net...
POPE PROCLAIMS HELL 'EXISTS AND IS ETERNAL'
Post Wire Services
March 26, 2007 -- ROME - Hell is a place where sinners burn in an eternal
fire, and not just a religious symbol designed to galvanise the faithful,
the Pope has said.
God's mercy and love are great, but those who reject him should know that
hell "exists and is eternal, even if nobody talks about it much any
more," Pope Benedict XVI proclaimed during a weekend visit to a Rome
parish.
Then obviously the supposed god's mercy and love isn't great. By
definition.
Its "great" .. but only extends to those who chose to ingratiate themselves
to him .. of course, some claim it god chooses the ones that will accept and
the ones that won't himself (ie you're programmed by god to be an acceptor
or a rejector) .. so really you have no choice. He just saves the ones he
likes and the rest of his creation get sent to hell to be tormented.
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: ** POPE PROCLAIMS HELL 'EXISTS AND IS ETERNAL' <= LOL! Burn in it then, Asswipe! ** |
28 Mar 2007 05:48:46 PM |
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On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 20:42:26 -0600, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:
Then obviously the supposed god's mercy and love isn't great. By definition.
Of course it is. For those that say they want no part of God, he lovingly gives
them their wish for all eternity.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: ** POPE PROCLAIMS HELL 'EXISTS AND IS ETERNAL' <= LOL! Burn in it then, Asswipe! ** |
29 Mar 2007 12:02:43 AM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 20:42:26 -0600, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:
Then obviously the supposed god's mercy and love isn't great. By
definition.
Of course it is. For those that say they want no part of God, he lovingly
gives
them their wish for all eternity.
Torture and fire for all eternity, you call that merciful.
You're an amoral monster.
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Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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| User: "_ Prof. Jonez _" |
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| Title: Re: ** POPE PROCLAIMS HELL 'EXISTS AND IS ETERNAL' <= LOL! Burn in it then, Asswipe! ** |
29 Mar 2007 11:05:36 AM |
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Denis Loubet wrote:
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:f5sl03t1pjj1tiabp94jrseudef13n4ebp@4ax.com...
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 20:42:26 -0600, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:
Then obviously the supposed god's mercy and love isn't great. By
definition.
Of course it is. For those that say they want no part of God, he
lovingly gives
them their wish for all eternity.
Torture and fire for all eternity, you call that merciful.
You're an amoral monster.
No surprise then that he fabricates an imaginary amoral monster to
validate his own mental disease.
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| User: "Kent Wills" |
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| Title: Re: ** POPE PROCLAIMS HELL 'EXISTS AND IS ETERNAL' <= LOL! Burn in it then, Asswipe! ** |
27 Mar 2007 06:47:42 AM |
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As I understand it, on Mon, 26 Mar 2007 19:39:37 -0600, "_ Prof. Jonez
_" <theprof@jonez.net> wrote:
POPE PROCLAIMS HELL 'EXISTS AND IS ETERNAL'
I've asked you a few times to prove atheism is correct. As of
my writing this, you've not done so.
Here's another chance for you to prove atheism is correct.
Crickets on stand-by.
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Kent
Recuerdo del Fin Del Mundo!
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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| Title: Re: ** POPE PROCLAIMS HELL 'EXISTS AND IS ETERNAL' <= LOL! Burn in it then, Asswipe! ** |
27 Mar 2007 03:09:17 PM |
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In article <611i035ftnr8dho02t0sms38ibuh5039gl@4ax.com>,
Kent Wills <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote:
As I understand it, on Mon, 26 Mar 2007 19:39:37 -0600, "_ Prof. Jonez
_" <theprof@jonez.net> wrote:
POPE PROCLAIMS HELL 'EXISTS AND IS ETERNAL'
I've asked you a few times to prove atheism is correct. As of
my writing this, you've not done so.
Here's another chance for you to prove atheism is correct.
Crickets on stand-by.
We don't need to prove anything. We merely don't believe the claims of
the religious due to the all-telling lack of evidence.
--
Uncle Vic aa Atheist #2011
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| User: "Kent Wills" |
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| Title: Re: ** POPE PROCLAIMS HELL 'EXISTS AND IS ETERNAL' <= LOL! Burn in it then, Asswipe! ** |
27 Mar 2007 08:48:02 PM |
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As I understand it, on Tue, 27 Mar 2007 13:09:17 -0700, Uncle Vic
<address@withheld.com> wrote:
In article <611i035ftnr8dho02t0sms38ibuh5039gl@4ax.com>,
Kent Wills <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote:
As I understand it, on Mon, 26 Mar 2007 19:39:37 -0600, "_ Prof. Jonez
_" <theprof@jonez.net> wrote:
POPE PROCLAIMS HELL 'EXISTS AND IS ETERNAL'
I've asked you a few times to prove atheism is correct. As of
my writing this, you've not done so.
Here's another chance for you to prove atheism is correct.
Crickets on stand-by.
We don't need to prove anything. We merely don't believe the claims of
the religious due to the all-telling lack of evidence.
Jonez doesn't simply do this. If he did, it wouldn't be an
issue.
He insists that Atheism is correct and insults anyone who has
a religious belief.
--
Kent
Vegetarian: Indian word for lousy hunter.
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| User: "Christopher A.Lee" |
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| Title: Re: ** POPE PROCLAIMS HELL 'EXISTS AND IS ETERNAL' <= LOL! Burn in it then, Asswipe! ** |
27 Mar 2007 07:56:56 PM |
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On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 19:48:02 -0600, Kent Wills <compuelf@gmail.com>
wrote:
As I understand it, on Tue, 27 Mar 2007 13:09:17 -0700, Uncle Vic
<address@withheld.com> wrote:
In article <611i035ftnr8dho02t0sms38ibuh5039gl@4ax.com>,
Kent Wills <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote:
As I understand it, on Mon, 26 Mar 2007 19:39:37 -0600, "_ Prof. Jonez
_" <theprof@jonez.net> wrote:
POPE PROCLAIMS HELL 'EXISTS AND IS ETERNAL'
I've asked you a few times to prove atheism is correct. As of
my writing this, you've not done so.
Here's another chance for you to prove atheism is correct.
Crickets on stand-by.
We don't need to prove anything. We merely don't believe the claims of
the religious due to the all-telling lack of evidence.
Jonez doesn't simply do this. If he did, it wouldn't be an
issue.
He insists that Atheism is correct and insults anyone who has
a religious belief.
Liar.
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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27 Mar 2007 10:05:45 PM |
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One fine day in alt.atheism, Kent Wills <compuelf@gmail.com> bloodied us up
with this:
Jonez doesn't simply do this. If he did, it wouldn't be an
issue.
He insists that Atheism is correct and insults anyone who has
a religious belief.
It is, fucker.
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Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Convicted by Earthquack. Plonked by Fester.
Member Duke Spanking Club.
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| User: "Kent Wills" |
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| Title: Re: ** POPE PROCLAIMS HELL 'EXISTS AND IS ETERNAL' <= LOL! Burn in it then, Asswipe! ** |
28 Mar 2007 06:59:56 PM |
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As I understand it, on 28 Mar 2007 03:05:45 GMT, Uncle Vic
<address@withheld.com> wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, Kent Wills <compuelf@gmail.com> bloodied us up
with this:
Jonez doesn't simply do this. If he did, it wouldn't be an
issue.
He insists that Atheism is correct and insults anyone who has
a religious belief.
It is, fucker.
Then proving it should be quite easy. Please offer the proof.
--
Kent
The irony of life is that, by the time
You're old enough to know your way
Around, you're not going anywhere.
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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| Title: Re: ** POPE PROCLAIMS HELL 'EXISTS AND IS ETERNAL' <= LOL! Burn in it then, Asswipe! ** |
29 Mar 2007 10:06:12 PM |
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One fine day in alt.atheism, Kent Wills <compuelf@gmail.com> bloodied us
up with this:
As I understand it, on 28 Mar 2007 03:05:45 GMT, Uncle Vic
<address@withheld.com> wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, Kent Wills <compuelf@gmail.com> bloodied
us up with this:
Jonez doesn't simply do this. If he did, it wouldn't be an
issue.
He insists that Atheism is correct and insults anyone who has
a religious belief.
It is, fucker.
Then proving it should be quite easy. Please offer the proof.
Why bother, you people are uneducatable.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Convicted by Earthquack. Plonked by Fester.
Member Duke Spanking Club.
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| User: "Christopher A.Lee" |
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| Title: Re: ** POPE PROCLAIMS HELL 'EXISTS AND IS ETERNAL' <= LOL! Burn in it then, Asswipe! ** |
27 Mar 2007 11:23:16 PM |
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On 28 Mar 2007 03:05:45 GMT, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com> wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, Kent Wills <compuelf@gmail.com> bloodied us up
with this:
Jonez doesn't simply do this. If he did, it wouldn't be an
issue.
He insists that Atheism is correct and insults anyone who has
a religious belief.
It is, fucker.
You're talking to a brainwashed moron who can't tell the difference
between not believing something, and believing its opposite.
And who can't think in the real world outside his religion to grasp
that his is merely one of hundreds of different religions.
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| User: "_ Prof. Jonez _" |
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| Title: Re: ** POPE PROCLAIMS HELL 'EXISTS AND IS ETERNAL' <= LOL! Burn in it then, Asswipe! ** |
28 Mar 2007 12:38:41 PM |
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Christopher A.Lee wrote:
On 28 Mar 2007 03:05:45 GMT, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com> wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, Kent Wills <compuelf@gmail.com>
bloodied us up with this:
Jonez doesn't simply do this. If he did, it wouldn't be an
issue.
He insists that Atheism is correct and insults anyone who has
a religious belief.
It is, fucker.
You're talking to a brainwashed moron who can't tell the difference
between not believing something, and believing its opposite.
And who can't think in the real world outside his religion to grasp
that his is merely one of hundreds of different religions.
Kent Wills is a stupid stupid man, whether it be his absurdly ridiculous
claims about U$ Legal issues or his repugnant child-raping murderous "god"
creature that he worships like some stone-age Neanderthal.
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| User: "Christopher A.Lee" |
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| Title: Re: ** POPE PROCLAIMS HELL 'EXISTS AND IS ETERNAL' <= LOL! Burn in it then, Asswipe! ** |
27 Mar 2007 03:42:07 PM |
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On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 13:09:17 -0700, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com>
wrote:
In article <611i035ftnr8dho02t0sms38ibuh5039gl@4ax.com>,
Kent Wills <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote:
As I understand it, on Mon, 26 Mar 2007 19:39:37 -0600, "_ Prof. Jonez
_" <theprof@jonez.net> wrote:
POPE PROCLAIMS HELL 'EXISTS AND IS ETERNAL'
I've asked you a few times to prove atheism is correct. As of
my writing this, you've not done so.
Here's another chance for you to prove atheism is correct.
Crickets on stand-by.
We don't need to prove anything. We merely don't believe the claims of
the religious due to the all-telling lack of evidence.
The problem is that loonies like this, see us as people who "believe
something even more obvious than the planet Earth, doesn't exist".
You'll never pierce the veil of wilful, self-imposed bigoted ignorance
no matter how often you try.
It's like saying there's no evidence for the Earth.
And then nit-picking between not believing in it, and believing it
doesn't exist.
They can't grasp that it is merely "somebody else's religious belief".
I've had too many believers off the net, who are otherwise sensible,
dismissing this as ridiculous because that's not how they see it.
Yet I only try to explain it after they have got it wrong.
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| User: "tjab" |
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27 Mar 2007 08:27:13 AM |
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In article <611i035ftnr8dho02t0sms38ibuh5039gl@4ax.com>,
Kent Wills <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote:
As I understand it, on Mon, 26 Mar 2007 19:39:37 -0600, "_ Prof. Jonez
_" <theprof@jonez.net> wrote:
POPE PROCLAIMS HELL 'EXISTS AND IS ETERNAL'
I've asked you a few times to prove atheism is correct.
Why?
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| User: "Kent Wills" |
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27 Mar 2007 08:43:10 PM |
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As I understand it, on 27 Mar 2007 09:27:13 -0400,
(tjab) wrote:
In article <611i035ftnr8dho02t0sms38ibuh5039gl@4ax.com>,
Kent Wills <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote:
As I understand it, on Mon, 26 Mar 2007 19:39:37 -0600, "_ Prof. Jonez
_" <theprof@jonez.net> wrote:
POPE PROCLAIMS HELL 'EXISTS AND IS ETERNAL'
I've asked you a few times to prove atheism is correct.
Why?
Because he has stated quite strongly that all religions are
wrong. In order for that to be absolute, Atheism must be correct. If
it is correct, Jonez should have no problem proving this.
He can't, just as I can't prove the God of the Bible is
correct, or the Hindu prove Vishnu, et al, is correct. And so on.
--
Kent
No todos los que ven tus obras ven tus virtudes.
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| User: "Christopher A.Lee" |
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| Title: Re: ** POPE PROCLAIMS HELL 'EXISTS AND IS ETERNAL' <= LOL! Burn in it then, Asswipe! ** |
27 Mar 2007 07:56:37 PM |
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On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 19:43:10 -0600, Kent Wills <compuelf@gmail.com>
wrote:
As I understand it, on 27 Mar 2007 09:27:13 -0400,
(tjab) wrote:
In article <611i035ftnr8dho02t0sms38ibuh5039gl@4ax.com>,
Kent Wills <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote:
As I understand it, on Mon, 26 Mar 2007 19:39:37 -0600, "_ Prof. Jonez
_" <theprof@jonez.net> wrote:
POPE PROCLAIMS HELL 'EXISTS AND IS ETERNAL'
I've asked you a few times to prove atheism is correct.
Why?
Because he has stated quite strongly that all religions are
wrong. In order for that to be absolute, Atheism must be correct. If
it is correct, Jonez should have no problem proving this.
Why don't you learn what atheism actually is, brainwashed liar?
He can't, just as I can't prove the God of the Bible is
correct, or the Hindu prove Vishnu, et al, is correct. And so on.
We've got nothing to prove, moron.
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| User: "Christopher A.Lee" |
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27 Mar 2007 08:48:01 AM |
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On 27 Mar 2007 09:27:13 -0400, (tjab) wrote:
In article <611i035ftnr8dho02t0sms38ibuh5039gl@4ax.com>,
Kent Wills <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote:
As I understand it, on Mon, 26 Mar 2007 19:39:37 -0600, "_ Prof. Jonez
_" <theprof@jonez.net> wrote:
POPE PROCLAIMS HELL 'EXISTS AND IS ETERNAL'
I've asked you a few times to prove atheism is correct.
Why?
Because like most theists he stupidly can't tell the difference
between....
"not believing in something irrelevant that is merely part of somebody
else's religion" and...
"believing something supremely important and self-evident doesn't
exist".
Like most of them he is incapable of grasping that outside his
religion it is a belief, not what he thinks it is inside it.
And instead of sensibly keeping quiet about it, he proclaims his
stupidity to the world.
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| User: "RHR" |
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27 Mar 2007 09:45:00 AM |
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On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 09:48:01 -0400, Christopher A.Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On 27 Mar 2007 09:27:13 -0400, (tjab) wrote:
In article <611i035ftnr8dho02t0sms38ibuh5039gl@4ax.com>,
Kent Wills <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote:
As I understand it, on Mon, 26 Mar 2007 19:39:37 -0600, "_ Prof. Jonez
_" <theprof@jonez.net> wrote:
POPE PROCLAIMS HELL 'EXISTS AND IS ETERNAL'
I've asked you a few times to prove atheism is correct.
Why?
Because like most theists he stupidly can't tell the difference
between....
"not believing in something irrelevant that is merely part of somebody
else's religion" and...
"believing something supremely important and self-evident doesn't
exist".
Like most of them he is incapable of grasping that outside his
religion it is a belief, not what he thinks it is inside it.
And instead of sensibly keeping quiet about it, he proclaims his
stupidity to the world.
What the world needs is for the Athiest religion as well as Catholics,
Muslims, Hindus and all others to realize that they cannot prove their
religion is the "true one" to other people. Therefore they should
adopt tolerence as their way to get along in the world.
RHR
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27 Mar 2007 08:44:25 PM |
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As I understand it, on Tue, 27 Mar 2007 10:45:00 -0400, RHR
<RHR@nospammy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 09:48:01 -0400, Christopher A.Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On 27 Mar 2007 09:27:13 -0400, (tjab) wrote:
In article <611i035ftnr8dho02t0sms38ibuh5039gl@4ax.com>,
Kent Wills <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote:
As I understand it, on Mon, 26 Mar 2007 19:39:37 -0600, "_ Prof. Jonez
_" <theprof@jonez.net> wrote:
POPE PROCLAIMS HELL 'EXISTS AND IS ETERNAL'
I've asked you a few times to prove atheism is correct.
Why?
Because like most theists he stupidly can't tell the difference
between....
"not believing in something irrelevant that is merely part of somebody
else's religion" and...
"believing something supremely important and self-evident doesn't
exist".
Like most of them he is incapable of grasping that outside his
religion it is a belief, not what he thinks it is inside it.
And instead of sensibly keeping quiet about it, he proclaims his
stupidity to the world.
What the world needs is for the Athiest religion as well as Catholics,
Muslims, Hindus and all others to realize that they cannot prove their
religion is the "true one" to other people. Therefore they should
adopt tolerence as their way to get along in the world.
This is what I've been trying to get Jonez to comprehend for
roughly two years. Maybe the way you wrote it will work.
--
Kent
"I'm a ten gov a day guy. It's all I know, and it's all
you need to know, gov!"
- Shouting George
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27 Mar 2007 07:53:41 PM |
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On Mar 28, 1:45 am, RHR <R...@nospammy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 09:48:01 -0400, Christopher A.Lee
<c...@optonline.net> wrote:
On 27 Mar 2007 09:27:13 -0400, (tjab) wrote:
In article <611i035ftnr8dho02t0sms38ibuh503...@4ax.com>,
Kent Wills <compu...@gmail.com> wrote:
As I understand it, on Mon, 26 Mar 2007 19:39:37 -0600, "_ Prof. Jonez
_" <thep...@jonez.net> wrote:
POPE PROCLAIMS HELL 'EXISTS AND IS ETERNAL'
I've asked you a few times to prove atheism is correct.
Why?
Because like most theists he stupidly can't tell the difference
between....
"not believing in something irrelevant that is merely part of somebody
else's religion" and...
"believing something supremely important and self-evident doesn't
exist".
Like most of them he is incapable of grasping that outside his
religion it is a belief, not what he thinks it is inside it.
And instead of sensibly keeping quiet about it, he proclaims his
stupidity to the world.
What the world needs is for the Athiest religion
There is no "the Atheist religion".
You can be a Buddhist and an atheist for example but Buddhism isnt
"the atheist religion" - most atheists have no religion at all.
Mark.
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27 Mar 2007 10:36:03 AM |
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On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 10:45:00 -0400, RHR <RHR@nospammy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 09:48:01 -0400, Christopher A.Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On 27 Mar 2007 09:27:13 -0400, (tjab) wrote:
In article <611i035ftnr8dho02t0sms38ibuh5039gl@4ax.com>,
Kent Wills <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote:
As I understand it, on Mon, 26 Mar 2007 19:39:37 -0600, "_ Prof. Jonez
_" <theprof@jonez.net> wrote:
POPE PROCLAIMS HELL 'EXISTS AND IS ETERNAL'
I've asked you a few times to prove atheism is correct.
Why?
Because like most theists he stupidly can't tell the difference
between....
"not believing in something irrelevant that is merely part of somebody
else's religion" and...
"believing something supremely important and self-evident doesn't
exist".
Like most of them he is incapable of grasping that outside his
religion it is a belief, not what he thinks it is inside it.
And instead of sensibly keeping quiet about it, he proclaims his
stupidity to the world.
What the world needs is for the Athiest religion as well as Catholics,
Muslims, Hindus and all others to realize that they cannot prove their
religion is the "true one" to other people. Therefore they should
adopt tolerence as their way to get along in the world.
What "atheist religion", moron?
But thank you for demonstrating that you are yet another theist who is
incapable of grasping the real world.
I was describing idiots like you.
RHR
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| User: "Ronald More-More Moshki" |
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27 Mar 2007 02:57:35 PM |
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On Mar 27, 11:36 am, Christopher A.Lee <c...@optonline.net> wrote:
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 10:45:00 -0400, RHR <R...@nospammy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 09:48:01 -0400, Christopher A.Lee
<c...@optonline.net> wrote:
On 27 Mar 2007 09:27:13 -0400, (tjab) wrote:
In article <611i035ftnr8dho02t0sms38ibuh503...@4ax.com>,
Kent Wills <compu...@gmail.com> wrote:
As I understand it, on Mon, 26 Mar 2007 19:39:37 -0600, "_ Prof. Jonez
_" <thep...@jonez.net> wrote:
POPE PROCLAIMS HELL 'EXISTS AND IS ETERNAL'
I've asked you a few times to prove atheism is correct.
Why?
Because like most theists he stupidly can't tell the difference
between....
"not believing in something irrelevant that is merely part of somebody
else's religion" and...
"believing something supremely important and self-evident doesn't
exist".
Like most of them he is incapable of grasping that outside his
religion it is a belief, not what he thinks it is inside it.
And instead of sensibly keeping quiet about it, he proclaims his
stupidity to the world.
What the world needs is for the Athiest religion as well as Catholics,
Muslims, Hindus and all others to realize that they cannot prove their
religion is the "true one" to other people. Therefore they should
adopt tolerence as their way to get along in the world.
What "atheist religion", moron?
But thank you for demonstrating that you are yet another theist who is
incapable of grasping the real world.
I was describing idiots like you.
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RHR provided the best laugh of the day.
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| User: "stumper" |
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27 Mar 2007 03:45:48 PM |
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Ronald 'More-More' Moshki wrote:
On Mar 27, 11:36 am, Christopher A.Lee <c...@optonline.net> wrote:
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 10:45:00 -0400, RHR <R...@nospammy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 09:48:01 -0400, Christopher A.Lee
<c...@optonline.net> wrote:
On 27 Mar 2007 09:27:13 -0400, (tjab) wrote:
In article <611i035ftnr8dho02t0sms38ibuh503...@4ax.com>,
Kent Wills <compu...@gmail.com> wrote:
As I understand it, on Mon, 26 Mar 2007 19:39:37 -0600, "_ Prof. Jonez
_" <thep...@jonez.net> wrote:
POPE PROCLAIMS HELL 'EXISTS AND IS ETERNAL'
I've asked you a few times to prove atheism is correct.
Why?
Because like most theists he stupidly can't tell the difference
between....
"not believing in something irrelevant that is merely part of somebody
else's religion" and...
"believing something supremely important and self-evident doesn't
exist".
Like most of them he is incapable of grasping that outside his
religion it is a belief, not what he thinks it is inside it.
And instead of sensibly keeping quiet about it, he proclaims his
stupidity to the world.
What the world needs is for the Athiest religion as well as Catholics,
Muslims, Hindus and all others to realize that they cannot prove their
religion is the "true one" to other people. Therefore they should
adopt tolerence as their way to get along in the world.
What "atheist religion", moron?
But thank you for demonstrating that you are yet another theist who is
incapable of grasping the real world.
I was describing idiots like you.
RHR provided the best laugh of the day.
It's not nice to laugh at people.
Have you guys heard of Buddhism?
How about Bishop Spong?
Jesus for the Non-Religious, ISBN 0-06-076207-1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bishop_Spong
How about Stumper at alt.atheism?
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~Stumper
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| User: "Ronald More-More Moshki" |
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27 Mar 2007 07:33:25 PM |
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On Mar 27, 4:45 pm, stumper <stum...@newvessel.com> wrote:
Ronald 'More-More' Moshki wrote:
On Mar 27, 11:36 am, Christopher A.Lee <c...@optonline.net> wrote:
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 10:45:00 -0400, RHR <R...@nospammy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 09:48:01 -0400, Christopher A.Lee
<c...@optonline.net> wrote:
On 27 Mar 2007 09:27:13 -0400, (tjab) wrote:
In article <611i035ftnr8dho02t0sms38ibuh503...@4ax.com>,
Kent Wills <compu...@gmail.com> wrote:
As I understand it, on Mon, 26 Mar 2007 19:39:37 -0600, "_ Prof. Jonez
_" <thep...@jonez.net> wrote:
POPE PROCLAIMS HELL 'EXISTS AND IS ETERNAL'
I've asked you a few times to prove atheism is correct.
Why?
Because like most theists he stupidly can't tell the difference
between....
"not believing in something irrelevant that is merely part of somebody
else's religion" and...
"believing something supremely important and self-evident doesn't
exist".
Like most of them he is incapable of grasping that outside his
religion it is a belief, not what he thinks it is inside it.
And instead of sensibly keeping quiet about it, he proclaims his
stupidity to the world.
What the world needs is for the Athiest religion as well as Catholics,
Muslims, Hindus and all others to realize that they cannot prove their
religion is the "true one" to other people. Therefore they should
adopt tolerence as their way to get along in the world.
What "atheist religion", moron?
But thank you for demonstrating that you are yet another theist who is
incapable of grasping the real world.
I was describing idiots like you.
RHR provided the best laugh of the day.
It's not nice to laugh at people.
Have you guys heard of Buddhism?
How about Bishop Spong?
Jesus for the Non-Religious, ISBN 0-06-076207-1http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bishop_Spong
How about Stumper at alt.atheism?
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Of course we've never heard of Buddhism
Moshki 'No-god' McNod
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27 Mar 2007 07:25:53 AM |
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Kent Wills <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote in
news:611i035ftnr8dho02t0sms38ibuh5039gl@4ax.com:
As I understand it, on Mon, 26 Mar 2007 19:39:37 -0600, "_ Prof. Jonez
_" <theprof@jonez.net> wrote:
POPE PROCLAIMS HELL 'EXISTS AND IS ETERNAL'
I've asked you a few times to prove atheism is correct. As of
my writing this, you've not done so.
Here's another chance for you to prove atheism is correct.
Crickets on stand-by.
Not having seen your previous posts on the subject, might I ask, what
exactly are you asking? Proof that the non-believe in a diety is correct?
Or the non-accepting of Christianity is correct? Or the non-acceptance of
all religion? In other words, would you rephrase the question?
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| User: "Kent Wills" |
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27 Mar 2007 08:40:14 PM |
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As I understand it, on Tue, 27 Mar 2007 07:25:53 -0500, ThePhisherKIng
<Locker@BusStation> wrote:
Kent Wills <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote in
news:611i035ftnr8dho02t0sms38ibuh5039gl@4ax.com:
As I understand it, on Mon, 26 Mar 2007 19:39:37 -0600, "_ Prof. Jonez
_" <theprof@jonez.net> wrote:
POPE PROCLAIMS HELL 'EXISTS AND IS ETERNAL'
I've asked you a few times to prove atheism is correct. As of
my writing this, you've not done so.
Here's another chance for you to prove atheism is correct.
Crickets on stand-by.
Not having seen your previous posts on the subject, might I ask, what
exactly are you asking? Proof that the non-believe in a diety is correct?
Or the non-accepting of Christianity is correct? Or the non-acceptance of
all religion? In other words, would you rephrase the question?
Jonez has, on many occasions and under many nyms, claimed any
number of religious beliefs are wrong. I've asked him to prove
Atheism is correct.
The point I've been trying to make is that one can not prove
any religious belief system (or lack of same) to be correct or
incorrect.
Sadly, Jonez just vanishes for while when I bring this up.
--
Kent
The irony of life is that, by the time
You're old enough to know your way
Around, you're not going anywhere.
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| User: "ThePhisherKIng Locker@BusStation" |
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28 Mar 2007 11:53:29 AM |
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Kent Wills <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote in
news:pnhj03ljlrlhg48b37jmqghvvi7pm6v9m5@4ax.com:
As I understand it, on Tue, 27 Mar 2007 07:25:53 -0500, ThePhisherKIng
<Locker@BusStation> wrote:
Kent Wills <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote in
news:611i035ftnr8dho02t0sms38ibuh5039gl@4ax.com:
As I understand it, on Mon, 26 Mar 2007 19:39:37 -0600, "_ Prof.
Jonez _" <theprof@jonez.net> wrote:
POPE PROCLAIMS HELL 'EXISTS AND IS ETERNAL'
I've asked you a few times to prove atheism is correct. As of
my writing this, you've not done so.
Here's another chance for you to prove atheism is correct.
Crickets on stand-by.
Not having seen your previous posts on the subject, might I ask, what
exactly are you asking? Proof that the non-believe in a diety is
correct? Or the non-accepting of Christianity is correct? Or the
non-acceptance of all religion? In other words, would you rephrase the
question?
Jonez has, on many occasions and under many nyms, claimed any
number of religious beliefs are wrong. I've asked him to prove
Atheism is correct.
A-theism says that the claims of religionists, that a god exists, are
wrong. To date, no religionist has been able to prove their "god-
existance" claim to be true. Ergo, A-theism is correct. You make the
claim, you prove your point. Until you do, the A-theist holds the high
ground.
To use Carl Sagan's analogy, you walk up to me and claim that there is a
dragon in your garage. I've said nothing about anything to this point,
but I ask you to show me. You open the garage door and I see nothing.
You tell me "Oh, he's invisible". I propose several tests to reveal the
existance of this dragon of yours. To every suggestion that I've made
you have an answer as to why it won't work. I can only conclude that
you're delusional and walk away unconvinced of your claim of a dragon in
your garage. That makes me an A-dragonist.
The point I've been trying to make is that one can not prove
any religious belief system (or lack of same) to be correct or
incorrect.
Sadly, Jonez just vanishes for while when I bring this up.
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28 Mar 2007 11:59:10 AM |
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On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:53:29 -0500, ThePhisherKIng <Locker@BusStation>
wrote:
Kent Wills <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote in
news:pnhj03ljlrlhg48b37jmqghvvi7pm6v9m5@4ax.com:
As I understand it, on Tue, 27 Mar 2007 07:25:53 -0500, ThePhisherKIng
<Locker@BusStation> wrote:
Kent Wills <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote in
news:611i035ftnr8dho02t0sms38ibuh5039gl@4ax.com:
As I understand it, on Mon, 26 Mar 2007 19:39:37 -0600, "_ Prof.
Jonez _" <theprof@jonez.net> wrote:
POPE PROCLAIMS HELL 'EXISTS AND IS ETERNAL'
I've asked you a few times to prove atheism is correct. As of
my writing this, you've not done so.
Here's another chance for you to prove atheism is correct.
Crickets on stand-by.
Not having seen your previous posts on the subject, might I ask, what
exactly are you asking? Proof that the non-believe in a diety is
correct? Or the non-accepting of Christianity is correct? Or the
non-acceptance of all religion? In other words, would you rephrase the
question?
Jonez has, on many occasions and under many nyms, claimed any
number of religious beliefs are wrong. I've asked him to prove
Atheism is correct.
A-theism says that the claims of religionists, that a god exists, are
wrong. To date, no religionist has been able to prove their "god-
existance" claim to be true. Ergo, A-theism is correct. You make the
claim, you prove your point. Until you do, the A-theist holds the high
ground.
The previous poster is yet another idiot who imagines that the rest of
the world revolves around his belief that his deity is real.
To use Carl Sagan's analogy, you walk up to me and claim that there is a
dragon in your garage. I've said nothing about anything to this point,
but I ask you to show me. You open the garage door and I see nothing.
You tell me "Oh, he's invisible". I propose several tests to reveal the
existance of this dragon of yours. To every suggestion that I've made
you have an answer as to why it won't work. I can only conclude that
you're delusional and walk away unconvinced of your claim of a dragon in
your garage. That makes me an A-dragonist.
And in the theist's mind, you are utterly and unreasonably convinced
the self-evident dragon which all reasonable people believe in,
doesn't exist.
However many times you explain it.
The point I've been trying to make is that one can not prove
any religious belief system (or lack of same) to be correct or
incorrect.
Sadly, Jonez just vanishes for while when I bring this up.
And like most of them he can't grasp how stupid he shows himself.
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