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"The Magic Rat" |
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16 May 2005 05:09:32 PM |
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% theists in US jails vs. % agnostic/atheists in US jails |
Is there any data on the question of who commits more crimes in the
United States? I would expect theists to have the higher percentage,
but is there a higher % of theists in jail than the % of theists in the
US.
I guess the real question is this:
Is a theist or an atheist more likely to commit a crime and end up in
jail? I've always kind of wondered...
Cheers,
MagicRat
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| User: "Clayton, The Email She-Male" |
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| Title: Re: % theists in US jails vs. % agnostic/atheists in US jails |
16 May 2005 05:47:40 PM |
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"The Magic Rat" <magicrat34@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1116281372.797947.256540@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Is there any data on the question of who commits more crimes in the
United States? I would expect theists to have the higher percentage,
but is there a higher % of theists in jail than the % of theists in the
US.
I guess the real question is this:
Is a theist or an atheist more likely to commit a crime and end up in
jail? I've always kind of wondered...
Either that or we are too smart to be caught! :)
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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16 May 2005 05:54:02 PM |
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"Clayton, The Email She-Male" <cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonymails.com> wrote in
message news:4289220d$0$4654$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
"The Magic Rat" <magicrat34@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1116281372.797947.256540@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Is there any data on the question of who commits more crimes in the
United States? I would expect theists to have the higher percentage,
but is there a higher % of theists in jail than the % of theists in the
US.
I guess the real question is this:
Is a theist or an atheist more likely to commit a crime and end up in
jail? I've always kind of wondered...
Either that or we are too smart to be caught! :)
D'oh! Always giving away trade secrets you are :)
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Robyn
Resident Witchpoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
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| User: "Dubh Ghall" |
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| Title: Re: % theists in US jails vs. % agnostic/atheists in US jails |
17 May 2005 01:05:05 PM |
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On Mon, 16 May 2005 18:54:02 -0400, "Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com>
wrote:
"Clayton, The Email She-Male" <cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonymails.com> wrote in
message news:4289220d$0$4654$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
"The Magic Rat" <magicrat34@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1116281372.797947.256540@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Is there any data on the question of who commits more crimes in the
United States? I would expect theists to have the higher percentage,
but is there a higher % of theists in jail than the % of theists in the
US.
I guess the real question is this:
Is a theist or an atheist more likely to commit a crime and end up in
jail? I've always kind of wondered...
Either that or we are too smart to be caught! :)
D'oh! Always giving away trade secrets you are :)
GIVING AWAY!
Not at the prices *some* people around here, charge for invisible potion!
I got some "Raise your Intellect" pills, from a witch.
They either contained Viagra, or my intellect, was at an all time low.
I asked her to cast a spell for me. She said she would need snakehair oil, and a
rooster's egg, but the best I could do, was 3-in-1, and my mate, Paddy.
--
Puck Greenman
The spelling, Like any opinion stated here,
is purely my own
#162 BAAWA Knight.
Plonked by Rob Duncan
Na bister 500,000
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: % theists in US jails vs. % agnostic/atheists in US jails |
17 May 2005 01:08:21 PM |
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"Dubh Ghall" <puck@pooks.hill.fey> wrote in message
news:llbk81hj7ves81an3uu3vv7fvvsp4drb96@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 May 2005 18:54:02 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com>
wrote:
"Clayton, The Email She-Male" <cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonymails.com> wrote in
message news:4289220d$0$4654$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
snip
Either that or we are too smart to be caught! :)
D'oh! Always giving away trade secrets you are :)
GIVING AWAY!
Not at the prices *some* people around here, charge for invisible potion!
I got some "Raise your Intellect" pills, from a witch.
They either contained Viagra, or my intellect, was at an all time low.
I asked her to cast a spell for me. She said she would need snakehair oil,
and a
rooster's egg, but the best I could do, was 3-in-1, and my mate, Paddy.
Pardon? :)
--
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
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| User: "Dubh Ghall" |
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| Title: Re: % theists in US jails vs. % agnostic/atheists in US jails |
17 May 2005 03:11:30 PM |
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On Tue, 17 May 2005 14:08:21 -0400, "Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com>
wrote:
"Dubh Ghall" <puck@pooks.hill.fey> wrote in message
news:llbk81hj7ves81an3uu3vv7fvvsp4drb96@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 May 2005 18:54:02 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com>
wrote:
"Clayton, The Email She-Male" <cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonymails.com> wrote in
message news:4289220d$0$4654$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
snip
Either that or we are too smart to be caught! :)
D'oh! Always giving away trade secrets you are :)
GIVING AWAY!
Not at the prices *some* people around here, charge for invisible potion!
I got some "Raise your Intellect" pills, from a witch.
They either contained Viagra, or my intellect, was at an all time low.
I asked her to cast a spell for me. She said she would need snakehair oil,
and a
rooster's egg, but the best I could do, was 3-in-1, and my mate, Paddy.
Pardon? :)
Just musing. (:-)
--
Puck Greenman
The spelling, Like any opinion stated here,
is purely my own
#162 BAAWA Knight.
Plonked by Rob Duncan
Na bister 500,000
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: % theists in US jails vs. % agnostic/atheists in US jails |
17 May 2005 05:39:13 PM |
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"Dubh Ghall" <puck@pooks.hill.fey> wrote in message
news:vpjk819i172dvmu3686h75ib9vvr97o620@4ax.com...
On Tue, 17 May 2005 14:08:21 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com>
wrote:
"Dubh Ghall" <puck@pooks.hill.fey> wrote in message
news:llbk81hj7ves81an3uu3vv7fvvsp4drb96@4ax.com...
On Mon, 16 May 2005 18:54:02 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com>
wrote:
"Clayton, The Email She-Male" <cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonymails.com> wrote in
message news:4289220d$0$4654$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
snip
Either that or we are too smart to be caught! :)
D'oh! Always giving away trade secrets you are :)
GIVING AWAY!
Not at the prices *some* people around here, charge for invisible
potion!
I got some "Raise your Intellect" pills, from a witch.
They either contained Viagra, or my intellect, was at an all time low.
I asked her to cast a spell for me. She said she would need snakehair
oil,
and a
rooster's egg, but the best I could do, was 3-in-1, and my mate, Paddy.
Pardon? :)
Just musing. (:-)
Okay, terrific! (What the hey?) :)
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Robyn
Resident Witchpoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
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| User: "The Great Hairy One" |
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| Title: Re: % theists in US jails vs. % agnostic/atheists in US jails |
19 May 2005 05:25:11 AM |
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In article <3eva4gF551fgU1@individual.net>,
says...
Okay, terrific! (What the hey?) :)
He's been drinking. Again.
--
The Great Hairy One,
BAAWA all night long
SMASHing it to the masses
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CEO EAC Roleplaying Division
Roleplay. Just do it.
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| User: "Olrik" |
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| Title: Re: % theists in US jails vs. % agnostic/atheists in US jails |
17 May 2005 10:38:20 PM |
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Robibnikoff wrote:
"Clayton, The Email She-Male" <cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonymails.com> wrote in
message news:4289220d$0$4654$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
"The Magic Rat" <magicrat34@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1116281372.797947.256540@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Is there any data on the question of who commits more crimes in the
United States? I would expect theists to have the higher percentage,
but is there a higher % of theists in jail than the % of theists in the
US.
I guess the real question is this:
Is a theist or an atheist more likely to commit a crime and end up in
jail? I've always kind of wondered...
Either that or we are too smart to be caught! :)
D'oh! Always giving away trade secrets you are :)
Please don't tell anyone that EAC really stands for Excellent Atheist
Criminals. That's the true reason we want to keep the EAC secret!
Of course, there's no EAC.
--
Olrik
aa #1981
Qualified SMASH member
EAC Chief Food Inspector, Bacon Division
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: % theists in US jails vs. % agnostic/atheists in US jails |
16 May 2005 07:52:00 PM |
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Clayton, The Email She-Male wrote:
"The Magic Rat" <magicrat34@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1116281372.797947.256540@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Is there any data on the question of who commits more crimes in the
United States? I would expect theists to have the higher percentage,
but is there a higher % of theists in jail than the % of theists in
the US.
I guess the real question is this:
Is a theist or an atheist more likely to commit a crime and end up in
jail? I've always kind of wondered...
Either that or we are too smart to be caught! :)
If I went to prison I would *quickly* become a Christian and might become a
preacher. Either that or act crazy. The cons tend to leave those types
alone.
Note that this implies that the majority of cons think of themselves as
Christian.
Even without being a minister, professing Christianity is a good bet. It
looks good on your parole records and lets you do something different on
Sunday.
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| User: "MJSD" |
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16 May 2005 09:52:08 PM |
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"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:Qebie.586$kj7.425@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com:
If I went to prison I would *quickly* become a Christian and might
become a preacher. Either that or act crazy. The cons tend to leave
those types alone.
It's hard to imagine that the Christian idea of Hell would even scare someone
who had to suffer being exposed to the general prison population on a daily
basis for 1 or 2 years. Hell is cartoonish compared to what people are
actually capable of doing to each other.
Note that this implies that the majority of cons think of themselves
as Christian.
Of course. The people on the parole boards would be almost entirely
Christian. The society that incarcerates them is almost entirely comprised of
Christians.
Even without being a minister, professing Christianity is a good bet.
It looks good on your parole records and lets you do something
different on Sunday.
Well, it probably couldn't hurt in this situation. Still, I don't think that
becoming a born-again Christian in prison really impresses anyone. The godly
prey on the godly everywhere. Prison rape among theists and horrible beatings
by Christian prison guards are just more examples of religious hypocrisy. Of
course, the raping and the beating will happen to you in any case.
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| User: "stoney" |
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19 May 2005 12:56:32 PM |
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On Tue, 17 May 2005 00:52:00 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Clayton, The Email She-Male wrote:
"The Magic Rat" <magicrat34@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1116281372.797947.256540@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Is there any data on the question of who commits more crimes in the
United States? I would expect theists to have the higher percentage,
but is there a higher % of theists in jail than the % of theists in
the US.
I guess the real question is this:
Is a theist or an atheist more likely to commit a crime and end up in
jail? I've always kind of wondered...
Either that or we are too smart to be caught! :)
If I went to prison I would *quickly* become a Christian and might become a
preacher. Either that or act crazy. The cons tend to leave those types
alone.
Note that this implies that the majority of cons think of themselves as
Christian.
Even without being a minister, professing Christianity is a good bet. It
looks good on your parole records and lets you do something different on
Sunday.
Get corn-holed by clergy? It's still another con.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "duke" |
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17 May 2005 04:52:05 AM |
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On Tue, 17 May 2005 00:52:00 GMT, "Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Clayton, The Email She-Male wrote:
"The Magic Rat" <magicrat34@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1116281372.797947.256540@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Is there any data on the question of who commits more crimes in the
United States? I would expect theists to have the higher percentage,
but is there a higher % of theists in jail than the % of theists in
the US.
I guess the real question is this:
Is a theist or an atheist more likely to commit a crime and end up in
jail? I've always kind of wondered...
Either that or we are too smart to be caught! :)
If I went to prison I would *quickly* become a Christian and might become a
preacher. Either that or act crazy. The cons tend to leave those types
alone.
Mikey, never one to be honest.
Note that this implies that the majority of cons think of themselves as
Christian.
Nope, it means that they checked the box that they recognized.
Even without being a minister, professing Christianity is a good bet. It
looks good on your parole records and lets you do something different on
Sunday.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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17 May 2005 04:17:19 PM |
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For Forgiveness Of Sin:
Lord Jesus, I am ashamed. I thought I was trying hard to be good and
honest in dealing with others and with you, but now I realize that I
closed myself to your grace; that I tried to go it alone, and now I've
fallen again.
Once again I come to you asking, begging for forgiveness. I'm truly
sorry for my sin, Lord... not only because of feelings of fear or
guilt, but because I know that by sinning I offend the love that you
have for me; I damage the image of God in myself; I fail to be all that
I was created to be. I'm sorry, Lord. Forgive me again in your loving
mercy. Help me to accept your grace to improve, to be good, to love.
I promise that from now on I'll look for the opportunities to do good;
I'll develop a real attitude of self-giving love; I'll open my heart to
your grace. I trust, Lord, in your saving mercy. Forgive me as I
willingly forgive those who have offended me. I love you, Lord Jesus.
Amen.
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| User: "kathryn" |
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19 May 2005 11:58:43 AM |
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<vivapadrepio@aol.com> wrote in message
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For Forgiveness Of Sin:
Lord Jesus, I am ashamed. I thought I was trying hard to be good and
honest in dealing with others and with you, but now I realize that I
closed myself to your grace; that I tried to go it alone, and now I've
fallen again.
Once again I come to you asking, begging for forgiveness. I'm truly
sorry for my sin, Lord... not only because of feelings of fear or
guilt, but because I know that by sinning I offend the love that you
have for me; I damage the image of God in myself; I fail to be all that
I was created to be. I'm sorry, Lord. Forgive me again in your loving
mercy. Help me to accept your grace to improve, to be good, to love.
I promise that from now on I'll look for the opportunities to do good;
I'll develop a real attitude of self-giving love; I'll open my heart to
your grace. I trust, Lord, in your saving mercy. Forgive me as I
willingly forgive those who have offended me. I love you, Lord Jesus.
Amen.
You have to ask yourself why a supposedly higher being would need to be
worshipped...why would it be important?
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| User: "The Magic Rat" |
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22 May 2005 10:43:55 PM |
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kathryn wrote:
You have to ask yourself why a supposedly higher being would need to
be
worshipped...why would it be important?
Penis envy?
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| User: "" |
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19 May 2005 04:50:28 PM |
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kathryn wrote:
<vivapadrepio@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1116364639.387391.283080@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
For Forgiveness Of Sin:
Lord Jesus, I am ashamed. I thought I was trying hard to be good
and
honest in dealing with others and with you, but now I realize that
I
closed myself to your grace; that I tried to go it alone, and now
I've
fallen again.
Once again I come to you asking, begging for forgiveness. I'm
truly
sorry for my sin, Lord... not only because of feelings of fear or
guilt, but because I know that by sinning I offend the love that
you
have for me; I damage the image of God in myself; I fail to be all
that
I was created to be. I'm sorry, Lord. Forgive me again in your
loving
mercy. Help me to accept your grace to improve, to be good, to
love.
I promise that from now on I'll look for the opportunities to do
good;
I'll develop a real attitude of self-giving love; I'll open my
heart to
your grace. I trust, Lord, in your saving mercy. Forgive me as I
willingly forgive those who have offended me. I love you, Lord
Jesus.
Amen.
You have to ask yourself why a supposedly higher being would need to
be
worshipped...why would it be important?
Some people think it's important *not* to worship. Amazing.
Prayer For The Gift Of Understanding:
Lord Jesus Christ, grant me the gift of understanding. Help me to
understand the feelings of others, the desires of others, the goals of
others. At the same time, help me to understand myself in my actions
and reactions. Widen my vision beyond my own small world to embrace
with knowledge and love the worlds of others.
Help me, Lord, to always see you at work in my own life and in the
lives of others. Bless me with insight, acceptance and love that is
tempered by you who are all things to all men. Help me to understand,
Lord. Amen.
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17 May 2005 08:17:54 PM |
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wrote:
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God disproven #1 Short Version
W.C. Barwell 3-9-05
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By god here, I mean the Grand God of Grand Theology,
the god that is perfect, omnipotent, omniscient,
omnibenevolent. The god that is defined as the most
powerful thing that can be imagined, the creator of
all. This god is defined as being intelligent, having
conciousness, and will. I mean this in the general
overall sense that the word god means dogmatically to
Christianity, Judaism, and Islam.
1. Can god do the impossible, create a square circle or
a 4 sided triangle?
2. That really asks the question, does god create the
rules, the laws, the logic of the Universe at large?
And thus can change them at a whim, or for a reason?
3. Since god is supposedly omnipotent, let us try
answering yes.
4. If yes, god could easily create a world where man has
free will yet freely chooses only to do moral good.
5. But in this world we see that man often does moral
evil.
6. If god could create such a word since he creates the
Universe's rules, and does not do so, god is effectively
the creator of all evil, past, present and future.
Evil exists only because god allows it to when he could
easily end all evil by creating a Universe where indeed
man has free will and yet freely chooses only to do
moral good.
7. Thus god is the author and sustaining cause of all
evil and is himself evil, that is omni-malevolent,
rather than as claimed, omni-benevolent.
8. Since dogmatically, god is supposedly omni-benevolent
rather than omni-malevolent, this is obviously not
acceptable. Allowing god to make the rules makes
him overtly evil.
9. God therefore does not make the rules, the laws or
the logic of the Universe.
10. God is said to be the most powerful thing that can
be imagined, the greatest thing that can exist.
But if god does not make the laws and rules and logic
of the Universe, and cannot change them at whim,
then the Universe with its rules and laws and logic
are more powerful than god, and this dogmatic claim
is obviously not true.
11. This claim is used as a basis of ontological claims
such as Anselm's ontological proof and these type of
ontological proofs are all thus falsified.
12. God is supposedly omnipotent. But if he is limited
by the Universe with its rules and laws and logic,
obviously he is not omnipotent at all. This dogmatic
claim cannot be saved unless you accept a god that
is omni-malevolent as a basic dogma.
13. God is dogmatically claimed to have been the creator
of the Universe, of all that is. But if god does not
make the laws and rules and logic of the Universe,
they must be beyond him, outside him, and must either
preceed him or parallel god's existance, he cannot
have created it thusly, so the dogma that god created
all is false also.
14. One dodge here might be to claim god created the
Universe in the manner that limits him, but god,
being omniscient, superintelligent and omnibenevolent
would have known that by creating such a Universe, he
was creating a Universe tht contained evil only because
he chose to create a limited Universe, so we are back
to claiming god is omni-malevolent. Thus such a dodge
fails.
15. The idea of a perfect omni-everything god preceeds
Christianity, Epicurus noted the problem of evil
in 250 BCE. If the gods are omnibenevolent and omnipotent,
yet evil exists. The gods either cannot or will not end
evil thus must be either not omnibenevolent or
omnipotent or possible neither.
16. Yet over 2,500 years, the theological methodolgy
used to erect the hypothetical Grand God of Grand
Theology which is now dogmatic in all major religous
traditions has failed to see this god as shown above,
cannot exist as claimed.
17. Thus not only is god as so defined an impossible
and failed hypothesis, the theology methodology
used to create such a hypothetical god is a failed
methodology and its basic method, making overarching
assertions without evidence is a failed methodology.
18. What are the laws and the rules and the logic of
the Universe? And what can we say about them?
19. As far as can be noted, we do have good, basic
understandings of the laws of the Universe. Things
are made up of matter and energy, operating in a
framework of time, and dimensions, with rules known
by science, phsycs, chemistry, astronomy and other
sciences.
20. There is no room in these laws and rules of
the Universe for disembodied gods or entities
that have will and who act. Thinking beings
are made of matter and energy and subject to rules
of chemistry and physics.
21. If theology wishes to claim otherwise, theology
bears the burden of demonstrating with hard evidence
that a god or other supernatural entity can exist.
And very much has a burden to prove that the Grand
God of theological tradition has actual and real
existance.
23. The failed theological methodology of making
unsupported assertions and deriving subclaims
is not an acceptable method for doing theology,
since as demonstrated above, that has proven to
be a total failure as a methodology.
(END)
When I shake my killfile, I can hear them buzzing!
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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17 May 2005 05:04:31 PM |
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wrote:
For Forgiveness Of Sin:
Going against the Bible again, I see, vivapadrepio. Praying so that
others may see. Tsk tsk tsk...
Lord Jesus, I am ashamed.
You are? Wow. What'd you do?
I thought I was trying hard to be good and
honest in dealing with others and with you, but now I realize that I
closed myself to your grace; that I tried to go it alone, and now I've
fallen again.
Awww... I'd feel for you, but I left my heart in my other pants.
Once again I come to you asking, begging for forgiveness. I'm truly
sorry for my sin, Lord... not only because of feelings of fear or
guilt, but because I know that by sinning I offend the love that you
have for me; I damage the image of God in myself; I fail to be all that
I was created to be. I'm sorry, Lord. Forgive me again in your loving
mercy. Help me to accept your grace to improve, to be good, to love.
Wow. This God you're praying to seems a bit childish and abusive, don't
you think? "Love me, or I'll kill you!"
I promise that from now on I'll look for the opportunities to do good;
That's good. You can start by stop posting this screed to alt.atheism.
You're offending God when you do so. Don't you know your Bible?
I'll develop a real attitude of self-giving love; I'll open my heart to
your grace. I trust, Lord, in your saving mercy. Forgive me as I
willingly forgive those who have offended me. I love you, Lord Jesus.
Amen.
Amen: lack of men.
Maybe that's vivapadrepio's problem. Lack of men.
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| Title: Re: % theists in US jails vs. % agnostic/atheists in US jails |
16 May 2005 05:53:59 PM |
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On 16 May 2005 15:09:32 -0700, "The Magic Rat" <magicrat34@aol.com>
wrote:
Is a theist or an atheist more likely to commit a crime and end up in
jail?
Theist, mathematically speaking, because there are more of them.
ALSO --
Theist, morally speaking, because most of them have none and are
budding sociopaths, expecting their imaginary friend(s) to tell them
right from wrong.
Happy FOAD --
Bonnie *****
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| User: "The Magic Rat" |
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| Title: Re: % theists in US jails vs. % agnostic/atheists in US jails |
17 May 2005 12:40:39 PM |
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Bonnie *****, YWN wrote:
On 16 May 2005 15:09:32 -0700, "The Magic Rat" <magicrat34@aol.com>
wrote:
Is a theist or an atheist more likely to commit a crime and end up
in
jail?
Theist, mathematically speaking, because there are more of them.
ALSO --
This I understand but let's say you take two people, a theist and an
atheist/agnostic. Mathematically speaking, who is more likely to end
up in jail?
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| User: "Harry F. Leopold" |
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| Title: Re: % theists in US jails vs. % agnostic/atheists in US jails |
17 May 2005 04:53:04 PM |
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On Tue, 17 May 2005 12:40:39 -0500, The Magic Rat wrote
(in article <1116351639.904185.73670@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>):
Bonnie *****, YWN wrote:
On 16 May 2005 15:09:32 -0700, "The Magic Rat" <magicrat34@aol.com>
wrote:
Is a theist or an atheist more likely to commit a crime and end up
in
jail?
Theist, mathematically speaking, because there are more of them.
ALSO --
This I understand but let's say you take two people, a theist and an
atheist/agnostic. Mathematically speaking, who is more likely to end
up in jail?
The best place to check would be http://www.usdoj.gov
There are damned few atheists in the court system (as prisoners/parolees),
far fewer as a percentage, than there are atheists in the general population.
--
Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness
(remove gene to email)
"Letting loafing leaves lie, leads lamentably to large lizard
liquidation?"-Zamboni
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| User: "wcb" |
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| Title: Re: % theists in US jails vs. % agnostic/atheists in US jails |
17 May 2005 08:19:22 PM |
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The Magic Rat wrote:
Bonnie *****, YWN wrote:
On 16 May 2005 15:09:32 -0700, "The Magic Rat" <magicrat34@aol.com>
wrote:
Is a theist or an atheist more likely to commit a crime and end up
in
jail?
Theist, mathematically speaking, because there are more of them.
ALSO --
This I understand but let's say you take two people, a theist and an
atheist/agnostic. Mathematically speaking, who is more likely to end
up in jail?
A century of sociology shows that theists end up in prisons, atheists are
conspicious by their absence.
--
When I shake my killfile, I can hear them buzzing!
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" |
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16 May 2005 07:59:12 PM |
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more murders have been committed in the name of god than for all other
reasons combined.
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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| Title: Re: % theists in US jails vs. % agnostic/atheists in US jails |
16 May 2005 05:48:07 PM |
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on 16 May 2005 in alt.atheism, The Magic Rat dropped trou, farted, whirled,
then shouted:
Is there any data on the question of who commits more crimes in the
United States? I would expect theists to have the higher percentage,
but is there a higher % of theists in jail than the % of theists in the
US.
I guess the real question is this:
Is a theist or an atheist more likely to commit a crime and end up in
jail? I've always kind of wondered...
Cheers,
MagicRat
One would think since theists believe "this life" is just prep for the
"next life", they would be more willing to commit crimes in "this life"
that would compromise their freedom yet have no impact on their place in
the afterlife. The statistics do seem to support this, but the ratio of
theists to atheists as a whole is well skewed to the theist side of the
equation in the first place, and one should also take into consideration
the fact that many convicts currently doing time converted while
incarcerated. This is especially true of death row.
http://adherents.com/misc/adh_prison.html
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Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
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As you were, I was. As I am, you will be.
--- Hunter S. Thompson
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