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"Ms. Escherichia" |
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25 Nov 2006 12:26:42 AM |
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** Top Ten Signs You're a Fundamentalist Christian ** |
Top Ten Signs You're a Fundamentalist Christian
10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions,
but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.
9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other
life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from
dirt.
8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God.
7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you
don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt
in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including
women, children, and trees!
6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping
with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who
then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the
sky.
5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically
established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing
dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a
few generations old.
4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who
share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend Eternity in
an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most "tolerant" and
"loving."
3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince
you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the
evidence you need to "prove" Christianity.
2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers. You
consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99%
FAILURE was simply the will of God.
1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible,
Christianity, and church history - but still call yourself a Christian.
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"I don't see any way of winning" [in Vietnam]
-- President Lyndon Johnson privately to
Defense Secretary McNamara 1965
"America wins the wars that she undertakes.
Make no mistake about it!"
-- President Lyndon Johnson public speech
1965 re: Vietnam War
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| User: "vernon here@there" |
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25 Nov 2006 07:46:59 AM |
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"Ms. Escherichia" <e@coli.com> wrote in message
news:4567e316$0$25780$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
"Only sign you're not a fundamentalist Christian."
Ignorance
Displayed by an ignorance of Christianity (not the religion)
Further displayed by an ignorance of English, I.E. the meaning of
fundamentalist. (Sort of like the fools that don't know that NAZI =
Socialist = liberal)
--
"I don't see any way of winning" [in Vietnam]
-- President Lyndon Johnson privately to
Defense Secretary McNamara 1965
And thus they didn't and wasted billions of dollars and millions of lives.
The EXACT same logic was said in WWII about Germany and Japan and then USSR
"America wins the wars that she undertakes.
Make no mistake about it!"
-- President Lyndon Johnson public speech
1965 re: Vietnam War
Johnson was a fool.
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| User: "Christopher A.Lee" |
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25 Nov 2006 08:17:32 AM |
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On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 06:46:59 -0700, "vernon" <here@there> wrote:
"Ms. Escherichia" <e@coli.com> wrote in message
news:4567e316$0$25780$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
"Only sign you're not a fundamentalist Christian."
Ignorance
Displayed by an ignorance of Christianity (not the religion)
Further displayed by an ignorance of English, I.E. the meaning of
fundamentalist. (Sort of like the fools that don't know that NAZI =
Socialist = liberal)
Are you really this stupid, or just plain pig-ignorant?
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| User: "Joe" |
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25 Nov 2006 01:20:10 PM |
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Christopher A.Lee wrote:
On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 06:46:59 -0700, "vernon" <here@there> wrote:
"Ms. Escherichia" <e@coli.com> wrote in message
news:4567e316$0$25780$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
"Only sign you're not a fundamentalist Christian."
Ignorance
Displayed by an ignorance of Christianity (not the religion)
Further displayed by an ignorance of English, I.E. the meaning of
fundamentalist. (Sort of like the fools that don't know that NAZI =
Socialist = liberal)
Are you really this stupid, or just plain pig-ignorant?
Vernon, aka ***** For Brains, equates the National
Socialist Party (Nazi's) with socialist/communist.
Somebody should inform Mr. ***** For Brains that
the Nazi's murdered the liberals and socialists.
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| User: "Vernon anere@anhere" |
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25 Nov 2006 03:31:04 PM |
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"Joe" <joe@joejoe.com> wrote in message
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Christopher A.Lee wrote:
On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 06:46:59 -0700, "vernon" <here@there> wrote:
"Ms. Escherichia" <e@coli.com> wrote in message
news:4567e316$0$25780$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
"Only sign you're not a fundamentalist Christian."
Ignorance
Displayed by an ignorance of Christianity (not the religion)
Further displayed by an ignorance of English, I.E. the meaning of
fundamentalist. (Sort of like the fools that don't know that NAZI =
Socialist = liberal)
Are you really this stupid, or just plain pig-ignorant?
Vernon, aka ***** For Brains, equates the National
Socialist Party (Nazi's) with socialist/communist.
Somebody should inform Mr. ***** For Brains that
the Nazi's murdered the liberals and socialists.
Translation: "We are not one of THEM"
EXACTLY the type of language used by the Nazis in 1930, EXACTLY.
And with your immense knowledge of the English language you compensate or
equalize with your knowledge of history.
You are typical of the retards taught by hate (Nazis) (Socialists)
(Liberals) Very often different liberal groups compete I.E. Nazi vs.
Communists.Of course those totally ignorant of history and racists don't
know that.
NAZI = Socialist = liberal = Communist = Government ownership THUS resulting
in the meaning of government ownership often called fascism.
DDUUUUHHHH
Get an education.
Oh, yes, we (U.S.A.) now have two "liberal" groups fighting for dominance,
Democrats vs. Republicans. That DOESN'T mean one of them is not Liberal.
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| User: "Free Lunch" |
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25 Nov 2006 04:15:26 PM |
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On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 14:31:04 -0700, in alt.atheism
"Vernon" <anere@anhere> wrote in
<4568b617$0$17436$882e0bbb@news.ThunderNews.com>:
"Joe" <joe@joejoe.com> wrote in message
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Christopher A.Lee wrote:
On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 06:46:59 -0700, "vernon" <here@there> wrote:
"Ms. Escherichia" <e@coli.com> wrote in message
news:4567e316$0$25780$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
"Only sign you're not a fundamentalist Christian."
Ignorance
Displayed by an ignorance of Christianity (not the religion)
Further displayed by an ignorance of English, I.E. the meaning of
fundamentalist. (Sort of like the fools that don't know that NAZI =
Socialist = liberal)
Are you really this stupid, or just plain pig-ignorant?
Vernon, aka ***** For Brains, equates the National
Socialist Party (Nazi's) with socialist/communist.
Somebody should inform Mr. ***** For Brains that
the Nazi's murdered the liberals and socialists.
Translation: "We are not one of THEM"
EXACTLY the type of language used by the Nazis in 1930, EXACTLY.
And with your immense knowledge of the English language you compensate or
equalize with your knowledge of history.
You are typical of the retards taught by hate (Nazis) (Socialists)
(Liberals) Very often different liberal groups compete I.E. Nazi vs.
Communists.Of course those totally ignorant of history and racists don't
know that.
NAZI = Socialist = liberal = Communist = Government ownership THUS resulting
in the meaning of government ownership often called fascism.
DDUUUUHHHH
Get an education.
Oh, yes, we (U.S.A.) now have two "liberal" groups fighting for dominance,
Democrats vs. Republicans. That DOESN'T mean one of them is not Liberal.
The Republican party used to be liberal in the older libertarian sense,
now it seems quite willing to be the party of authoritarians and
racists. That is sad.
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26 Nov 2006 10:29:36 PM |
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Free Lunch wrote:
The Republican party used to be liberal in the older libertarian sense,
now it seems quite willing to be the party of authoritarians and
racists. That is sad.
The dem's only difference in that sense is the contexts in which
the dems express authoritarianism and racism. There's quite
a few posters from Europe who come through here and say
our "right" and "left" both look well to one side of the center
in their eyes.
--
Walt Smith
Firelock on DALNet
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| User: "Kevin Anthoney" |
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25 Nov 2006 04:01:16 PM |
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Vernon wrote:
"Joe" <joe@joejoe.com> wrote in message
news:L7ednW4h6b70CvXYnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@adelphia.com...
Christopher A.Lee wrote:
On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 06:46:59 -0700, "vernon" <here@there> wrote:
"Ms. Escherichia" <e@coli.com> wrote in message
news:4567e316$0$25780$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
"Only sign you're not a fundamentalist Christian."
Ignorance
Displayed by an ignorance of Christianity (not the religion)
Further displayed by an ignorance of English, I.E. the meaning of
fundamentalist. (Sort of like the fools that don't know that NAZI =
Socialist = liberal)
Are you really this stupid, or just plain pig-ignorant?
Vernon, aka ***** For Brains, equates the National
Socialist Party (Nazi's) with socialist/communist.
Somebody should inform Mr. ***** For Brains that
the Nazi's murdered the liberals and socialists.
Translation: "We are not one of THEM"
EXACTLY the type of language used by the Nazis in 1930, EXACTLY.
So claiming you're not a Nazi means you're a Nazi?
Are you a Nazi?
And with your immense knowledge of the English language you compensate or
equalize with your knowledge of history.
You are typical of the retards taught by hate (Nazis) (Socialists)
(Liberals) Very often different liberal groups compete I.E. Nazi vs.
Communists.Of course those totally ignorant of history and racists don't
know that.
NAZI = Socialist = liberal = Communist = Government ownership THUS
resulting in the meaning of government ownership often called fascism.
DDUUUUHHHH
Get an education.
Oh, yes, we (U.S.A.) now have two "liberal" groups fighting for dominance,
Democrats vs. Republicans. That DOESN'T mean one of them is not Liberal.
--
Kevin Anthoney
kanthoney[a]dsl.pipex.com
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| User: "Vernon anere@anhere" |
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25 Nov 2006 07:54:20 PM |
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"Kevin Anthoney" <kevin_anthoney@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:aaydnX10J8gCIPXYnZ2dnUVZ8qidnZ2d@pipex.net...
Vernon wrote:
"Joe" <joe@joejoe.com> wrote in message
news:L7ednW4h6b70CvXYnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@adelphia.com...
Christopher A.Lee wrote:
On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 06:46:59 -0700, "vernon" <here@there> wrote:
"Ms. Escherichia" <e@coli.com> wrote in message
news:4567e316$0$25780$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
"Only sign you're not a fundamentalist Christian."
Ignorance
Displayed by an ignorance of Christianity (not the religion)
Further displayed by an ignorance of English, I.E. the meaning of
fundamentalist. (Sort of like the fools that don't know that NAZI =
Socialist = liberal)
Are you really this stupid, or just plain pig-ignorant?
Vernon, aka ***** For Brains, equates the National
Socialist Party (Nazi's) with socialist/communist.
Somebody should inform Mr. ***** For Brains that
the Nazi's murdered the liberals and socialists.
Translation: "We are not one of THEM"
EXACTLY the type of language used by the Nazis in 1930, EXACTLY.
So claiming you're not a Nazi means you're a Nazi?
Are you a Nazi?
Over your uneducated head, yes, I know.
And with your immense knowledge of the English language you compensate or
equalize with your knowledge of history.
You are typical of the retards taught by hate (Nazis) (Socialists)
(Liberals) Very often different liberal groups compete I.E. Nazi vs.
Communists.Of course those totally ignorant of history and racists don't
know that.
NAZI = Socialist = liberal = Communist = Government ownership THUS
resulting in the meaning of government ownership often called fascism.
DDUUUUHHHH
Get an education.
Oh, yes, we (U.S.A.) now have two "liberal" groups fighting for
dominance,
Democrats vs. Republicans. That DOESN'T mean one of them is not Liberal.
--
Kevin Anthoney
kanthoney[a]dsl.pipex.com
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| User: "Joe" |
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25 Nov 2006 10:14:03 PM |
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Vernon wrote:
"Joe" <joe@joejoe.com> wrote in message
news:L7ednW4h6b70CvXYnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@adelphia.com...
Christopher A.Lee wrote:
On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 06:46:59 -0700, "vernon" <here@there> wrote:
"Ms. Escherichia" <e@coli.com> wrote in message
news:4567e316$0$25780$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
"Only sign you're not a fundamentalist Christian."
Ignorance
Displayed by an ignorance of Christianity (not the religion)
Further displayed by an ignorance of English, I.E. the meaning of
fundamentalist. (Sort of like the fools that don't know that NAZI =
Socialist = liberal)
Are you really this stupid, or just plain pig-ignorant?
Vernon, aka ***** For Brains, equates the National
Socialist Party (Nazi's) with socialist/communist.
Somebody should inform Mr. ***** For Brains that
the Nazi's murdered the liberals and socialists.
Translation: "We are not one of THEM"
EXACTLY the type of language used by the Nazis in 1930, EXACTLY.
You are a monumentally stupid human being.
And with your immense knowledge of the English language you compensate or
equalize with your knowledge of history.
You are typical of the retards taught by hate (Nazis) (Socialists)
(Liberals) Very often different liberal groups compete I.E. Nazi vs.
Communists.Of course those totally ignorant of history and racists don't
know that.
NAZI = Socialist = liberal = Communist = Government ownership THUS resulting
in the meaning of government ownership often called fascism.
Wrong, ***** for brains. Nazi = Fascist
= Neocon/Conservative Evangelical pig.
DDUUUUHHHH
Get an education.
Oh, yes, we (U.S.A.) now have two "liberal" groups fighting for dominance,
Democrats vs. Republicans. That DOESN'T mean one of them is not Liberal.
Did I mention you're a monumentally stupid
human being?
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| User: "Vernon anere@anhere" |
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26 Nov 2006 09:45:27 AM |
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"Joe" <joe@joejoe.com> wrote in message
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Vernon wrote:
"Joe" <joe@joejoe.com> wrote in message
Thank you for displaying the typical lack of education of many of today's
liberals, (not to be confused with the "Liberal" of the late 1800s.)
It is quite obvious that you, in all likelihood, barely made it through a
public (government sponsored) high school.
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| User: "Joe" |
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26 Nov 2006 12:43:11 PM |
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Vernon wrote:
"Joe" <joe@joejoe.com> wrote in message
news:evednbRXH_UWifTYnZ2dnUVZ_sOdnZ2d@adelphia.com...
Vernon wrote:
"Joe" <joe@joejoe.com> wrote in message
Thank you for displaying the typical lack of education of many of today's
liberals, (not to be confused with the "Liberal" of the late 1800s.)
Comparing Nazi's (fascists) to liberals and
socialists displays your lack of education.
The socialists and communists were hated by
the Nazis, you dumb wanking fundamentalist.
That's the downside of being home schooled.
You are one ignorant *****, aren't you Vern?
It is quite obvious that you, in all likelihood, barely made it through a
public (government sponsored) high school.
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| User: "weight gain 2000" |
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25 Nov 2006 08:02:03 AM |
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vernon wrote:
"Ms. Escherichia" <e@coli.com> wrote in message
news:4567e316$0$25780$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
"Only sign you're not a fundamentalist Christian."
Ignorance
Displayed by an ignorance of Christianity (not the religion)
Further displayed by an ignorance of English, I.E. the meaning
of
fundamentalist. (Sort of like the fools that don't know that
NAZI = Socialist = liberal)
--
"I don't see any way of winning" [in Vietnam]
-- President Lyndon Johnson privately to
Defense Secretary McNamara 1965
And thus they didn't and wasted billions of dollars and
millions of lives.
The EXACT same logic was said in WWII about Germany and Japan
and then USSR
"America wins the wars that she undertakes.
Make no mistake about it!"
-- President Lyndon Johnson public speech
1965 re: Vietnam War
Johnson was a fool.
Right. What an ***** Ms. Escherichia must be! I mean, look at
those signatures. Ergo, whatever is written on the post, it
completely and utterly is bunk.
Christian logic at its best! I was reminded by some who
say: "Look, Darwin wrote on page xyz that! What an *****.
Evolution is a myth".... How cool is that? I mean, I'm happy
dealing with *smart* people!
(oh, no - I've got to watch out for my signature. I _pray_ that
noone discovers its origin, least they *prove* I'm an idiot as
well!! I pray to thee Odin, keep me safe from all those atheist
pigs calling themselves children of God! Look: I have even 6
candles lit for you! Protect me you dirty *****!)
--
wg2k - beefcake!
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25 Nov 2006 12:18:26 PM |
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On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 06:46:59 -0700, "vernon" <here@there> wrote:
© 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of this
article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
author
"Ms. Escherichia" <e@coli.com> wrote in message
news:4567e316$0$25780$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
"Only sign you're not a fundamentalist Christian."
Ignorance
Displayed by an ignorance of Christianity (not the religion)
Further displayed by an ignorance of English, I.E. the meaning of
fundamentalist. (Sort of like the fools that don't know that NAZI =
Socialist = liberal)
Vernon, kindly watch your use of the term "fool."
It is forbidden, as you SHOULD know.
john w
--
"I don't see any way of winning" [in Vietnam]
-- President Lyndon Johnson privately to
Defense Secretary McNamara 1965
And thus they didn't and wasted billions of dollars and millions of lives.
The EXACT same logic was said in WWII about Germany and Japan and then USSR
"America wins the wars that she undertakes.
Make no mistake about it!"
-- President Lyndon Johnson public speech
1965 re: Vietnam War
Johnson was a fool.
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| User: "Jedadiah" |
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25 Nov 2006 07:54:19 PM |
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In article <4567e316$0$25780$815e3792@news.qwest.net>, says...
Top Ten Signs You're a Fundamentalist Christian
I think this is a more accurate list.
1. We are all guilty before God:
'As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one.'--Romans 3:10
'For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God.'--Romans 3:23
2. None can enter heaven with this sin:
'And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that
defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh
a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of
life.'--Revelation 21:27
3. All sinners will suffer eternally:
'And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast
into the lake of fire.'--Revelation 20:15
4. What are we going to do about our sin? Can church membership,
church ordinances, or good works save us? NO! God says these
cannot save from the penalty of sin.
'Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according
to His mercy He saved us...'--Titus 3:5
'Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified
in His sight...'--Romans 3:20
'But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are
as filthy rags...'--Isaiah 64:6
5. What we must do to be saved: Believe that Christ died to pay the
penalty for sin and rose again bodily from the grave.
'For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for
the ungodly.'--Romans 5:6
'But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet
sinners, Christ died for us.'--Romans 5:8
'In whom we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of
sins, according to the riches of His grace.'--Ephesians 1:7
6. Believe and trust in Jesus Christ as the risen Saviour and Lord today
'To Him give all the prophets witness, that through His name
whosoever believeth in Him shall receive remission of
sins.'--Acts 10:43
'Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth My Word, and
believeth on Him that sent Me, hath everlasting life, and shall
not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto
life.'--John 5:24
'But as many as received Him, to them gave He power to become the
sons of God, even to them that believe on His name.'--John 1:12
'Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for
our justification.'--Romans 4:25
7. Salvation is a free gift to anyone who acknowledges his lost,
hopeless condition as a sinner, and, by faith, accepts the Lord
Jesus Christ as his personal Savior.
i.e. "Oh, God, I know I am a sinner. I believe Jesus was my substitute when He
died on the Cross. I believe that His shed blood, death, burial, and
resurrection were for me. I now receive Him as my Savior. I thank You for
the forgiveness of my sins, the gift of salvation and everlasting life, because
of Your merciful grace. Amen." Amen! and if you pray to God such a prayer,
with a broken spirit and contrite heart, you have received the gift of
eternal salvation. Born again in the Spirit, you have a new, more abundant
life to look forward to starting now (cf John 10:10).
God's power will save you, keep you saved, and enable you to live a
victorious Christian life, because: "There hath no temptation taken you but
such as is common to man: but God is faithful, Who will not suffer you to be
tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape,
that ye may be able to bear it" (1 Corinthians 10:13)
All Bible references are from The Authorized King James Bible,
Cambridge 1769 Text.
--
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"Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution."
2 Timothy 3:12
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| User: "Vernon anere@anhere" |
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26 Nov 2006 01:18:05 PM |
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"Jedadiah" <sp4m33t3r@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:ft6ah.1013$eb5.88@newsreading01.news.tds.net...
In article <4567e316$0$25780$815e3792@news.qwest.net>, says...
Top Ten Signs You're a Fundamentalist Christian
I think this is a more accurate list.
1. We are all guilty before God:
'As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one.'--Romans 3:10
'For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God.'--Romans 3:23
Correct, none are righteous (all sin and continue to sin)
2. None can enter heaven with this sin:
'And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that
defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh
a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of
life.'--Revelation 21:27
The ones whom the Father choses enter heaven.
3. All sinners will suffer eternally:
'And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast
into the lake of fire.'--Revelation 20:15
ALL ARE SINNERS, God chooses some.
4. What are we going to do about our sin? Can church membership,
church ordinances, or good works save us? NO! God says these
cannot save from the penalty of sin.
'Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according
to His mercy He saved us...'--Titus 3:5
'Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified
in His sight...'--Romans 3:20
'But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are
as filthy rags...'--Isaiah 64:6
WE can do NOTHING about our sin. It is egotistical to think so.
5. What we must do to be saved: Believe that Christ died to pay the
penalty for sin and rose again bodily from the grave.
'For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for
the ungodly.'--Romans 5:6
'But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet
sinners, Christ died for us.'--Romans 5:8
'In whom we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of
sins, according to the riches of His grace.'--Ephesians 1:7
We do Nothing. The Father chooses and THUS we believe. Eph 2:1 plus Eph
2:8-10.
6. Believe and trust in Jesus Christ as the risen Saviour and Lord today
A RESULT
'To Him give all the prophets witness, that through His name
whosoever believeth in Him shall receive remission of
sins.'--Acts 10:43
'Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth My Word, and
believeth on Him that sent Me, hath everlasting life, and shall
not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto
life.'--John 5:24
'But as many as received Him, to them gave He power to become the
sons of God, even to them that believe on His name.'--John 1:12
'Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for
our justification.'--Romans 4:25
7. Salvation is a free gift to anyone who acknowledges his lost,
hopeless condition as a sinner, and, by faith, accepts the Lord
Jesus Christ as his personal Savior.
No one acknowledges in spirit without the Father's choosing.
You (anyone) can blab all day about belief and they are not thus "saved"
i.e. "Oh, God, I know I am a sinner. I believe Jesus was my substitute
when He
died on the Cross. I believe that His shed blood, death, burial, and
resurrection were for me. I now receive Him as my Savior. I thank You
for
the forgiveness of my sins, the gift of salvation and everlasting life,
because
of Your merciful grace. Amen." Amen! and if you pray to God such a prayer,
with a broken spirit and contrite heart, you have received the gift of
eternal salvation. Born again in the Spirit, you have a new, more abundant
life to look forward to starting now (cf John 10:10).
Easily repeated by many who are not and never will be saved.
God's power will save you, keep you saved, and enable you to live a
victorious Christian life, because: "There hath no temptation taken you
but
such as is common to man: but God is faithful, Who will not suffer you to
be
tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a
way to escape,
that ye may be able to bear it" (1 Corinthians 10:13)
All Bible references are from The Authorized King James Bible,
Cambridge 1769 Text.
--
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"Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer
persecution."
2 Timothy 3:12
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25 Nov 2006 11:52:02 PM |
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On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 01:54:19 GMT, sp4m33t3r@yahoo.com.invalid
(Jedadiah) wrote:
In article <4567e316$0$25780$815e3792@news.qwest.net>, says...
Top Ten Signs You're a Fundamentalist Christian
I think this is a more accurate list.
1. We are all guilty before God:
'As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one.'--Romans 3:10
'For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God.'--Romans 3:23
2. None can enter heaven with this sin:
'And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that
defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh
a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of
life.'--Revelation 21:27
3. All sinners will suffer eternally:
'And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast
into the lake of fire.'--Revelation 20:15
4. What are we going to do about our sin? Can church membership,
church ordinances, or good works save us? NO! God says these
cannot save from the penalty of sin.
'Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according
to His mercy He saved us...'--Titus 3:5
'Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified
in His sight...'--Romans 3:20
'But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are
as filthy rags...'--Isaiah 64:6
5. What we must do to be saved: Believe that Christ died to pay the
penalty for sin and rose again bodily from the grave.
'For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for
the ungodly.'--Romans 5:6
'But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet
sinners, Christ died for us.'--Romans 5:8
'In whom we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of
sins, according to the riches of His grace.'--Ephesians 1:7
6. Believe and trust in Jesus Christ as the risen Saviour and Lord today
'To Him give all the prophets witness, that through His name
whosoever believeth in Him shall receive remission of
sins.'--Acts 10:43
'Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth My Word, and
believeth on Him that sent Me, hath everlasting life, and shall
not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto
life.'--John 5:24
'But as many as received Him, to them gave He power to become the
sons of God, even to them that believe on His name.'--John 1:12
'Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for
our justification.'--Romans 4:25
7. Salvation is a free gift to anyone who acknowledges his lost,
hopeless condition as a sinner, and, by faith, accepts the Lord
Jesus Christ as his personal Savior.
i.e. "Oh, God, I know I am a sinner. I believe Jesus was my substitute when He
died on the Cross. I believe that His shed blood, death, burial, and
resurrection were for me. I now receive Him as my Savior. I thank You for
the forgiveness of my sins, the gift of salvation and everlasting life, because
of Your merciful grace. Amen." Amen! and if you pray to God such a prayer,
with a broken spirit and contrite heart, you have received the gift of
eternal salvation. Born again in the Spirit, you have a new, more abundant
life to look forward to starting now (cf John 10:10).
God's power will save you, keep you saved, and enable you to live a
victorious Christian life, because: "There hath no temptation taken you but
such as is common to man: but God is faithful, Who will not suffer you to be
tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape,
that ye may be able to bear it" (1 Corinthians 10:13)
All Bible references are from The Authorized King James Bible,
Cambridge 1769 Text.
You sure put a lot of faith in a book that's been rewriten by
politicians until theres nothing left of it.
Try putting the same energy into reality and the pure process of
science. That actually works and has made man extremely powerful - it
has saved every single person on earth repeatedly. Your book is full
of lies and is the constant reported basis of racism, war and greed.
If christians gave up the bible and insisting on demanding every
pretend they have the truth and instead just cared about their fellow
man, their lives would be made whole and the rest of world could rest
easy.
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26 Nov 2006 10:31:00 PM |
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Kate wrote:
On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 01:54:19 GMT, sp4m33t3r@yahoo.com.invalid
(Jedadiah) wrote:
In article <4567e316$0$25780$815e3792@news.qwest.net>, says...
Top Ten Signs You're a Fundamentalist Christian
I think this is a more accurate list.
1. We are all guilty before God:
'As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one.'--Romans 3:10
'For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God.'--Romans 3:23
2. None can enter heaven with this sin:
'And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that
defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh
a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of
life.'--Revelation 21:27
3. All sinners will suffer eternally:
'And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast
into the lake of fire.'--Revelation 20:15
4. What are we going to do about our sin? Can church membership,
church ordinances, or good works save us? NO! God says these
cannot save from the penalty of sin.
'Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according
to His mercy He saved us...'--Titus 3:5
'Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified
in His sight...'--Romans 3:20
'But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are
as filthy rags...'--Isaiah 64:6
5. What we must do to be saved: Believe that Christ died to pay the
penalty for sin and rose again bodily from the grave.
'For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for
the ungodly.'--Romans 5:6
'But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet
sinners, Christ died for us.'--Romans 5:8
'In whom we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of
sins, according to the riches of His grace.'--Ephesians 1:7
6. Believe and trust in Jesus Christ as the risen Saviour and Lord today
'To Him give all the prophets witness, that through His name
whosoever believeth in Him shall receive remission of
sins.'--Acts 10:43
'Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth My Word, and
believeth on Him that sent Me, hath everlasting life, and shall
not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto
life.'--John 5:24
'But as many as received Him, to them gave He power to become the
sons of God, even to them that believe on His name.'--John 1:12
'Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for
our justification.'--Romans 4:25
7. Salvation is a free gift to anyone who acknowledges his lost,
hopeless condition as a sinner, and, by faith, accepts the Lord
Jesus Christ as his personal Savior.
i.e. "Oh, God, I know I am a sinner. I believe Jesus was my substitute when He
died on the Cross. I believe that His shed blood, death, burial, and
resurrection were for me. I now receive Him as my Savior. I thank You for
the forgiveness of my sins, the gift of salvation and everlasting life, because
of Your merciful grace. Amen." Amen! and if you pray to God such a prayer,
with a broken spirit and contrite heart, you have received the gift of
eternal salvation. Born again in the Spirit, you have a new, more abundant
life to look forward to starting now (cf John 10:10).
God's power will save you, keep you saved, and enable you to live a
victorious Christian life, because: "There hath no temptation taken you but
such as is common to man: but God is faithful, Who will not suffer you to be
tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape,
that ye may be able to bear it" (1 Corinthians 10:13)
All Bible references are from The Authorized King James Bible,
Cambridge 1769 Text.
You sure put a lot of faith in a book that's been rewriten by
politicians until theres nothing left of it.
POLITICANS!!?!?!?! LOL awwwwwwww geeeez
Try putting the same energy into reality and the pure process of
science. That actually works and has made man extremely powerful - it
has saved every single person on earth repeatedly. Your book is full
of lies and is the constant reported basis of racism, war and greed.
Science? LOL, you put all your faith in science? Science hasn't
proven anything, everytime you trun around someone's study/find is in
direct contradiction to someone's study/find. So I suppose you are one
of the ones who are going...yeah yeah that's it!...oh yeah yeah that's
it!, eh?
Apparently you have not read the Bible because it is full of truths,
let's break it down for you:
RACISM - I don't know of any racial wars due to the Bible other than
against the Jewish people who (btw have the Torah). The Islamics are
killing everyone who won't bow down & worship their allah (they have
the Koran/Quran), and the so called "Christian" wars were by the RCC so
PLEASE do not drag the REAL Christians into it...thank you veddy much.
WAR: basically the same thing as above with the exception of people
messing with God's folks (Jewish) as in the OT (interesting reading,
you really must try it sometime, especially before you start spouting
off).
GREED - there you go - that is a WORLD problem not a God problem, the
Bible does warn us about greed - it is a sin and it will be like a god
in the last days.
If christians gave up the bible and insisting on demanding every
pretend they have the truth and instead just cared about their fellow
man, their lives would be made whole and the rest of world could rest
easy.
HELLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOO.... I will NEVER give up on my Bible because it is
God's word and He does not lie and His word makes us whole,ok?
We do care about our fellow man that is why we don't mind going over
their and fighting for others reights and God given freedom, just like
you have you horse's back side.
Let's try this ...... maybe YOU need to care for your fellow man more
instead of putting down the people who do care and are willing to give
our lives for others because we know what our FUTURE aka afterlife
holds for us!
Peace of our Lord be with you.
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27 Nov 2006 08:54:08 AM |
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2Blessed wrote:
. . . PLEASE do not drag the REAL Christians into it...thank you veddy much.
Why not? Are they both too busy?
HB
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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27 Nov 2006 12:10:58 PM |
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On 27 Nov 2006 06:54:08 -0800, "Hollis Brown" <AT_Tappman@hotmail.com>
wrote:
2Blessed wrote:
. . . PLEASE do not drag the REAL Christians into it...thank you veddy much.
Why not? Are they both too busy?
One's been dead for almost 2,000 years. Who's the other one?
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| User: "Rev. Jones Says \Drink More Koolaid" |
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27 Nov 2006 05:54:44 PM |
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:rgamm2ljhuhvgi37480eeqj7ovid839398@4ax.com...
One's been dead for almost 2,000 years. Who's the other one?
Gandhi, but he's dead, too.
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http://www.myspace.com/therightreverendjones
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27 Nov 2006 01:21:36 AM |
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2Blessed wrote:
Science? LOL, you put all your faith in science? Science hasn't
proven anything, everytime you trun around someone's study/find is in
direct contradiction to someone's study/find.
I detect the kind of glaring logical inconsistencies
in your “reasoning” that only botched frontal lobotomy
patients with crisscrossed shoelace scars on their
sloped foreheads are capable of making. You wouldn't
be an xtian fundamentalist, would you, Sparky?
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| User: "IKnowHimDoYou- A." |
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27 Nov 2006 09:50:44 AM |
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In article <CuOdnTVY68GdD_fYnZ2dnUVZ_qadnZ2d@adelphia.com>, Joe
<joe@joejoe.com> wrote:
2Blessed wrote:
Science? LOL, you put all your faith in science? Science hasn't
proven anything, everytime you trun around someone's study/find is in
direct contradiction to someone's study/find.
I detect the kind of glaring logical inconsistencies
in your “reasoning” that only botched frontal lobotomy
patients with crisscrossed shoelace scars on their
sloped foreheads are capable of making. You wouldn't
be an xtian fundamentalist, would you, Sparky?
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You wouldn't be an evolving ape would you?
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| User: "Joe" |
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27 Nov 2006 03:45:05 PM |
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IKnowHimDoYou- A. wrote:
In article <CuOdnTVY68GdD_fYnZ2dnUVZ_qadnZ2d@adelphia.com>, Joe
<joe@joejoe.com> wrote:
2Blessed wrote:
Science? LOL, you put all your faith in science? Science hasn't
proven anything, everytime you trun around someone's study/find is in
direct contradiction to someone's study/find.
I detect the kind of glaring logical inconsistencies
in your “reasoning” that only botched frontal lobotomy
patients with crisscrossed shoelace scars on their
sloped foreheads are capable of making. You wouldn't
be an xtian fundamentalist, would you, Sparky?
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You wouldn't be an evolving ape would you?
Let's follow your "logic" here: If somebody
argues that science has obvious value, it
must be because they're nothing but an
atheistic evolutionist?
You wouldn't be a fundygodbot who believes
he "knows Him, would you?
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| User: "Concorde" |
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27 Nov 2006 07:49:24 PM |
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In article <4c2dnaktybD1wfbYnZ2dnUVZ_h2dnZ2d@adelphia.com>, Joe
<joe@joejoe.com> wrote:
IKnowHimDoYou- A. wrote:
In article <CuOdnTVY68GdD_fYnZ2dnUVZ_qadnZ2d@adelphia.com>, Joe
<joe@joejoe.com> wrote:
2Blessed wrote:
Science? LOL, you put all your faith in science? Science hasn't
proven anything, everytime you trun around someone's study/find is in
direct contradiction to someone's study/find.
I detect the kind of glaring logical inconsistencies
in your “reasoning” that only botched frontal lobotomy
patients with crisscrossed shoelace scars on their
sloped foreheads are capable of making. You wouldn't
be an xtian fundamentalist, would you, Sparky?
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You wouldn't be an evolving ape would you?
Let's follow your "logic" here: If somebody
argues that science has obvious value, it
must be because they're nothing but an
atheistic evolutionist?
You wouldn't be a fundygodbot who believes
he "knows Him, would you?
He has Christianity in the same way that other people have (other?) mental
illnesses.
Jesus might have sent his "stupidity" into a herd of swine.
He was good at that.
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27 Nov 2006 03:44:53 PM |
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In article <IKnowHim-2711060750440001@pm8-52.kalama.com>,
IKnowHim@leavingsoon.com (IKnowHimDoYou- A.) wrote:
In article <CuOdnTVY68GdD_fYnZ2dnUVZ_qadnZ2d@adelphia.com>, Joe
<joe@joejoe.com> wrote:
2Blessed wrote:
Science? LOL, you put all your faith in science? Science hasn't
proven anything, everytime you trun around someone's study/find is in
direct contradiction to someone's study/find.
I detect the kind of glaring logical inconsistencies
in your “reasoning” that only botched frontal lobotomy
patients with crisscrossed shoelace scars on their
sloped foreheads are capable of making. You wouldn't
be an xtian fundamentalist, would you, Sparky?
_______________________________________________________________
You wouldn't be an evolving ape would you?
and you one whose evolution has gone wrong
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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27 Nov 2006 12:10:23 PM |
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On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 07:50:44 -0800,
(IKnowHimDoYou- A.) wrote:
You wouldn't be an evolving ape would you?
Human? Of course. You're not evolving (extinct)? Or not an ape
(human)?
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27 Nov 2006 02:03:50 AM |
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On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 00:21:36 -0700, Joe <joe@joejoe.com> wrote:
2Blessed wrote:
Science? LOL, you put all your faith in science? Science hasn't
proven anything, everytime you trun around someone's study/find is in
direct contradiction to someone's study/find.
I detect the kind of glaring logical inconsistencies
in your “reasoning” that only botched frontal lobotomy
patients with crisscrossed shoelace scars on their
sloped foreheads are capable of making. You wouldn't
be an xtian fundamentalist, would you, Sparky?
That he would. And if you think this is bad, you should see some of
the crap he posts in alt.talk.creationism.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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27 Nov 2006 12:09:10 PM |
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On 26 Nov 2006 20:31:00 -0800, "2Blessed" <mrschina55@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Kate wrote:
You sure put a lot of faith in a book that's been rewriten by
politicians until theres nothing left of it.
POLITICANS!!?!?!?! LOL awwwwwwww geeeez
What else do you call a group of men who, under orders of the secular
ruler of the time decided, for no better reason than to make the
ruler's mother happy, which books were to be part of the Bible and
which ones weren't? Arianism, anyone? Book of Thomas? Book of Mary?
Try putting the same energy into reality and the pure process of
science. That actually works and has made man extremely powerful - it
has saved every single person on earth repeatedly. Your book is full
of lies and is the constant reported basis of racism, war and greed.
Science? LOL, you put all your faith in science?
Science doesn't require faith. Do you have faith that your lights
come on when you turn the switch on, or do you *know* that, barring
disaster, they will. (The reason you have electricity and light bulbs
is applied science.)
Science hasn't proven anything
Because science DOESN'T prove, it only disproves.
everytime you trun around someone's study/find is in
direct contradiction to someone's study/find.
You see something wrong with learning new things?
Apparently you have not read the Bible because it is full of truths,
let's break it down for you:
Okay, let's:
Women are the property of men.
Women who try to teach men should be killed.
Abortion on demand is allowed - as long as it's the husband who's
making the demand.
You can't eat pork, shellfish, meat and milk together and you have to
keep Saturday holy.
Why are you violating the rules in your Bible?
RACISM - I don't know of any racial wars due to the Bible
The Bible says that owning other people is okay, as long as they're
not Jews.
PLEASE do not drag the REAL Christians into it
You don't get to decide who's a "real Christian" any more than I get
to decide whether you are, so you decide which way we'll do it. We
both get to make that decision or you don't.
GREED
Jesus says to sell all your worldly goods and give the money to the
poor. Have you done that? Obviously not, since you still own a
computer.
Do you really want to go down this path? Many have, and all who have
have lost.
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26 Nov 2006 04:14:34 PM |
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Kate wrote:
You sure put a lot of faith in a book that's been rewriten by
politicians until theres nothing left of it.
Try putting the same energy into reality and the pure process of
science. That actually works and has made man extremely powerful - it
has saved every single person on earth repeatedly. Your book is full
of lies and is the constant reported basis of racism, war and greed.
If christians gave up the bible and insisting on demanding every
pretend they have the truth and instead just cared about their fellow
man, their lives would be made whole and the rest of world could rest
easy.
Exactly what has your faith in science, in other words scientism,
brought? Care to show how the arts are remarkably better? Care to
show how the discovery of electricity has managed to cause men to care
more? Care to show how exactly it has produced more charity, cause men
to stop fighting, or brought real peace? Did scientism tame the Nazi
war machine? Did it result in a high quality of life in Materialistic
Communist Russia?
Care to show how scientism produces the following:
1. "That which you have done to the least of these children, you have
done unto me"?
2. "In Christ, there is neither Jew nor Greek, Male nor Female"?
3. "Love your neighbor as yourself"?
Science without faith, spirituality, metaphysics and all that realm is
a souless machine with no direction or purpose. It leave people barren
and empty. True solution for man is now found in more power, it is
found in love. The souless machine of science and technology doesn't
provide this. As was said by Einstein: "Science without religion is
lame. Religion without science is blind."
This scene out of the 5th Element sums it up. Ok, I know you may
reject it because it is science fiction, and not proven in some lab
somewhere. For those who are strictly materialistic, it is easy to be
limited this way. Anyhow, onto the scene:
http://sfy.ru/sfy.html?script=fifth_element
CORNELIUS
...I'm a priest! I'm here to serve life,
All you want to do is destroy it.
ZORG
Ah, Father... You are so wrong.
Let me explain...
Zorg leads Cornelius into his inner office.
ZORG
...would you like a drink?
CORNELIUS
No thank you.
ZORG
Follow me.. Life, which you so nobly serve,
comes from destruction. Look at this empty
glass.
Zorg pushes the glass with his finger.
ZORG
Here it is... peaceful... serene...
but if it is...
Zorg pushes the glass off the table. It shatters on the floor.
ZORG
Destroyed...
Small individual robots, both free-wheeling and integrated, come
zipping out to clean up the mess.
ZORG
...Look at all these little things...
so busy all of a sudden.
Notice how each one is useful.
What a lovely ballet, so full of form
and color. So full of..life!
CORNELIUS
They are robots!
A SERVANT comes in pours water in another glass. Zorg tosses a
cherry into it.
ZORG
Yes but... by that simple gesture of destruction.
I gave work to at least fifty people today. The
engineers, the technicians, the mechanics. Fifty
people who will be able to feed their children so
they can grow up big and strong. Children who
will have children of their own, adding to the great
cycle of life!
Cornelius sits in silence.
ZORG
Father, by creating a little destruction,
I am, in fact, encouraging life! So, in
reality, you and I are in the same business!
CORNELIUS
Destroying a glass is one thing..killing people
with the weapons you produce is quite another.
ZORG
Let me reassure you Father..I will never kill
more people in my entire life than religion has
killed in the last 2000 years.
Zorg smiles, holds up the glass and takes a drink.
Unfortunately, he chokes on the cherry. Unable to breathe, Zorg
starts to panic.
CORNELIUS
(mocking)
Where's the robot to pat your back?
Zorg falls, writhing, on his desk, inadvertently hitting buttons
which trigger a slew of little mechanisms. They pop out all over
the desk. True chaos reigns. Even a cage appears, holding a
Souliman Aktapan, a fat multicolored beastie, PICASSO, who seems
surprised to be out in daylight. He licks his half-dead master in
thanks. Cornelius gets up and walks around the desk. Zorg motions
for help.
CORNELIUS
Can I give you a hand?
Cornelius whacks him on the back. The cherry comes flying out.
Zorg regains control of himself. GUARDS come running in.
ZORG
You saved my life... So, I'm going
to spare yours.
(to the GUARDS)
Throw him out!
The GUARDS throw Cornelius out.
CORNELIUS
You are a monster, Zorg!
ZORG
(complimented)
I know...
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So, keep with your Scientism. Exactly who will be there to get the
cherry out when you screw up? Which of your technology will save you?
- Richard Hutnik
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26 Nov 2006 08:53:22 PM |
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On 26 Nov 2006 14:14:34 -0800, wrote:
Kate wrote:
You sure put a lot of faith in a book that's been rewriten by
politicians until theres nothing left of it.
Try putting the same energy into reality and the pure process of
science. That actually works and has made man extremely powerful - it
has saved every single person on earth repeatedly. Your book is full
of lies and is the constant reported basis of racism, war and greed.
If christians gave up the bible and insisting on demanding every
pretend they have the truth and instead just cared about their fellow
man, their lives would be made whole and the rest of world could rest
easy.
Exactly what has your faith in science, in other words scientism,
brought? Care to show how the arts are remarkably better? Care to
show how the discovery of electricity has managed to cause men to care
more? Care to show how exactly it has produced more charity, cause men
to stop fighting, or brought real peace? Did scientism tame the Nazi
war machine? Did it result in a high quality of life in Materialistic
Communist Russia?
If you had actually read what I wrote, you will note I never said a
word about faith in science. I said effort. Science doesn't run on
faith. Faith is immoral. There is more morality in science than in
all the religions of the world.
This is why. It values honesty above all. Faith does exactly the
opposite. It values pretence.
You can't build a morality on a lie.
Care to show how scientism produces the following:
1. "That which you have done to the least of these children, you have
done unto me"?
2. "In Christ, there is neither Jew nor Greek, Male nor Female"?
3. "Love your neighbor as yourself"?
Why does your religion require you to do all those things? To obey a
god.
Do it because you care and then you will be moral. Obedience to a god
is only selfishness embroidered with lies.
Science without faith, spirituality, metaphysics and all that realm is
a souless machine with no direction or purpose. It leave people barren
and empty. True solution for man is now found in more power, it is
found in love. The souless machine of science and technology doesn't
provide this. As was said by Einstein: "Science without religion is
lame. Religion without science is blind."
Einstein only gave any credence to the watchmaker god. He flat out
didn't believe in your god.
Sorry.
This scene out of the 5th Element sums it up. Ok, I know you may
reject it because it is science fiction, and not proven in some lab
somewhere. For those who are strictly materialistic, it is easy to be
limited this way. Anyhow, onto the scene:
A b movie and a rather hacknied one at that. If this is your idea of
science, you are a limited person.
Try reading 'the selfish gene' by Dawkins. It will tell you more
about human morality than anything else on earth. Try opening your
eyes and your ears and your mind.
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So, keep with your Scientism. Exactly who will be there to get the
cherry out when you screw up? Which of your technology will save you?
- Richard Hutnik
Science has built everything you use. How hypocritical of you. You
have nothing that religion built. Only that that it has destroyed.
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